The Japanese High School Girls Forced to be Battlefield Nurses in WW2 (Himeyuri)

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4 жыл бұрын

A video about the Himeyuri Student Corps.
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@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
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@John77Doe
@John77Doe 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy Why the jump to World War II?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@lizzychang3834
@lizzychang3834 4 жыл бұрын
@John Doe just roll with it.
@mikekelendjian2022
@mikekelendjian2022 4 жыл бұрын
John Doe because I made the request for him to do a video on WW2
@trischas.2809
@trischas.2809 4 жыл бұрын
@@John77Doe because it is a topic that is worth investigating.
@jamesmiller2521
@jamesmiller2521 4 жыл бұрын
Yeesh, stories of Korean high school girls about WW2 are not so amazing
@demeterruinedmylife3199
@demeterruinedmylife3199 4 жыл бұрын
Forced to lead your students to become battlefield nurses, witnessing all those terrible war injuries, got kicked out by the army, your students became suicidal, then a bunch of them got shot right in front of your eyes... That sensei must be broken when he used the grenade...
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's your job to protect your students, but how would you do it in this case..
@JJP-lb3ek
@JJP-lb3ek 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy "No bastard ever won a war dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country". The quote applies to soldiers but i feel it also should apply here. I cannot accept what the teacher did. Id rather have my group of students be raped rather than killing them myself. Best case scenario nothing happens and the war ends. Worst case, they might live enough to hate and kill the enemy in the future.
@clothar23
@clothar23 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJP-lb3ek As a soldier I can tell you Patton was full of shit when he said that. War isn't some Hollywood action movie. It's a down right god awful mess of snap decisions and not enough time to think anything through. And you, me, or anyone else have no right to judge somebody in that moment between the decision and the consequences. Are we allowed to hate the consequences, maybe. But when all your choices are terrible and the consequences are all going to be shit anyway what's the point of hating any of it. That Teacher did what they thought best, what they had been taught was best. It's easy to think their choice a poor one but when you're in charge of something , of someone the choices all begin to suck.
@murderouskitten2577
@murderouskitten2577 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJP-lb3ek as ex military ( not US ) i can tell you one thing - Patton is full of something non nice. and is unfurtunetly glorified as some kind of "talanted" general , while being only a stuborn idiot who did know one mode- full forward. Anyway - as far as judging the teacher ( Taira-sensei ) , you really are some fine piece of work , saying you would have your class of kids raped .... Now , repeat that statment when in that class is your daughter. You have never been ( hopefully ) in that situation , and i have naive hope , that no one will ever be in that situation ever , but you cant really judge that man. The demonization of US troops was in high gear , the civilians and enslisted man really did not believe they will be alowed to live if they survived. And more than few trigger happy us troopers only add fuel to that fire , then again , japanese soldiers did on number of ocasions pretend to surender , only to suicide grenade the us troops when possible. Basicly , Okinawa was a mess and one of the few times US troops had to do real fighting in pacific on the ground. More than few of US troops where Kids themselfs ( 18-20 ) . And one who havent been in hell is in no possition to judge ones who where.
@CrimsonAlchemist
@CrimsonAlchemist 4 жыл бұрын
Many tried to surrender. But americans killed them anyway
@NaviRyan
@NaviRyan 4 жыл бұрын
ww2 survivors: war is hell ww2 movies: for country and glory hurrah ww2 Historians: wtf hollywood
@JLT0087
@JLT0087 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the historians probably just compare Hollywood's new propaganda to the old classics.
@JLT0087
@JLT0087 4 жыл бұрын
@Hoàng Nguyên Occasionally Hollywood remembers that the Japanese sucker punched us before we enacted our nuclear vengeance but yeah, their narrative is typically everyone else is getting beat down than America steps in to win the war and save them.
@rorschachguy2055
@rorschachguy2055 4 жыл бұрын
The Pacific was pretty good about showing the reality of war. In fact, it's my favorite TV series.
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
Pg13 war......
@alexg4711
@alexg4711 4 жыл бұрын
There are many people that were glad they fought in wars for their countries too. I am not trying to say war is fun, but it is not just all bad and after all it is part of nature and our nature to have violent conflicts
@jif.6821
@jif.6821 2 жыл бұрын
My mother at age 15 was taken out of school, and trained to be a battle field nurse. She was from Tochigi Prefecture but assigned to Tokyo just in time for the napalm fire-bombing of Tokyo. She saw enough death and destruction to last several lifetimes treat burn victims mainly women, children, and the elderly. After the war she remained a nurse (St. Luke's, Tokyo General) when in 1949 she met a patient (my American officer dad), fell in love, got married, and lived happily ever after. Neither of my parents ever talked much about the horrors of their experience during the war.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a wild thing to go through for your mother. Thanks for sharing :)
@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary
@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary 4 ай бұрын
Your parents must have gone through so much, Im glad they found each other
@cedricf.6900
@cedricf.6900 4 жыл бұрын
As a German, this kind of reminds me of the young boys who "volunteered" for the Volksstrurm. Like the Himeyuri they were too young for such a nightmare
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
yikes :(
@lauraaguilera6509
@lauraaguilera6509 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for info!
@sohrabroozbahani4700
@sohrabroozbahani4700 4 жыл бұрын
there will be a day that sentimentalism of WW2 will eventually fade and people will start to see the loosing side of it as humans again, then, their pain and anguish at the final stages of the war they lost will be recognized... they were all also humans, and they all have suffered, not just the war, but also through the pain of the defeat...
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 4 жыл бұрын
Not just young boys. My great grandfather was around 50 when he was drafted into the Volkssturm. It may not be as bad sending as a child but the act of sending someone to war who never had held a rifle for being a political enemy who just managed to keep his head down (he was a low-level politician of the Austrian Volkspartei) is quite barbaric in its own right.
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua N. Ajang His brother and two other relatives fought in world war 1. Only my great grand uncle made it back. We still have his world war 1 sabre. As for my great grandfather, in world war 1 he wasn't drafted as he was a member of the municipality council and required to run things here in the village. And if he knew how to fire a rifle he still would not know about tactics and how to behave on the front line. Something that you cannot learn in a week or two. Luckily, it ended well. The war ended before he got to see any combat. At least as far as I know. He died a year before I was born with 90 something.
@matrixiekitty2127
@matrixiekitty2127 3 жыл бұрын
The pictures of the girls at the end really hammered home the sadness. They were just young girls, they just wanted to have a fun childhood, but they were completely robbed. Heartbreaking
@masterchief4421
@masterchief4421 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until you hear the young boys who where drafted into the volkstruppen
@yuukkas
@yuukkas 3 жыл бұрын
@@masterchief4421 this video isnt about them
@masterchief4421
@masterchief4421 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuukkas Ok and? I know that. I'm just saying bruh
@teacoon6399
@teacoon6399 3 жыл бұрын
@@masterchief4421 Remember - boys can’t go through hard times.
@masterchief4421
@masterchief4421 3 жыл бұрын
@@teacoon6399 wdym?
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
Blood, steel and highschool girls? If there aren't at least 12 different manga series or anime about this consider me shocked.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
Really sad and serious stuff tbh.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
I know of movies about this, but I've heard they overly romanticize it. Not sure about that many anime or manga. A viewer tells me there's a manga called Cocoon.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
How do you even romanticize Tetanus and amputations?
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alias_Anybody ez solution: don't show it
@ashercanmakeapun4554
@ashercanmakeapun4554 4 жыл бұрын
Media and tumblr girls: *cracks nuckles backwards* watch how the pros do jt
@rionthemagnificent2971
@rionthemagnificent2971 4 жыл бұрын
War is Hell. My Grandfather served under Patton, He frequently had nightmares of the war, and I think he abused alcohol to deal with his PTSD. Back then they would have told him to "man up". Every weekend he'd get so damn drunk he couldn't even comprehend his own name. But every Monday after he'd be right into work on time, even if he had a hangover from hell.
@braith117
@braith117 2 жыл бұрын
A great many vets had that problem after WWII, and PTSD wasn't really something that was well understood or well addressed until very recently. Audie Murphy was a big proponent of awareness of the issue before he died, but the US military didn't start taking it seriously until 10 years into a 20 year(and counting) war.
@slook7094
@slook7094 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between PTSD back then and in Vietnam was that the vast majority of the men your age would have gone through the same thing, so you had people to talk to at the bar or your local VFW. You also had the support of the entire country calling you heroes. After Vietnam, once people saw the reality of war on tv and no government propaganda censoring the bad parts, you didn't have that support. So the guys telling him to "man up" were telling him that because they went through the same thing.
@nicholasdoss3312
@nicholasdoss3312 2 жыл бұрын
@@slook7094 that's probably the most fucked up part of America's involvment in Veitnam: US citizens treating returning soldiers as monsters and "baby killers", when, in reality, most of those "baby killers" were in fact the very babies they sent over there
@Pikagirl541
@Pikagirl541 4 жыл бұрын
War, unsurprisingly, brings out the worst in people.
@strifycyberlox5555
@strifycyberlox5555 4 жыл бұрын
In other news, the sky is blue.
@cinnamon_coco1488
@cinnamon_coco1488 4 жыл бұрын
But it can also bring out the best in people (though you hear a lot less about those cases)
@ousamadearu5960
@ousamadearu5960 4 жыл бұрын
and unsurprisingly people wants an ideal war.
@murderouskitten2577
@murderouskitten2577 4 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamon_coco1488 unfortunetly , only very few people tend to be in the category you described. Nobody comes out of hell on earth pretty . ( if you are lucky , you come back sane )
@jerrytang3146
@jerrytang3146 3 жыл бұрын
AND THE BEST!
@XDKang
@XDKang 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Okinawa and have been to the museum two times. The stories you can read there are really compelling and paint a vivid picture of just how horrendous the battle of Okinawa was. I highly recommend anyone else watching this video to visit the museum if you ever come to Okinawa, and buy a wreath to place in front of the Himeyuri Monument and observe a moment of silence for the Himeyuri corps girls whose lives were unfortunately taken. Thank you so much for covering this topic, Linfamy.
@whyme1163
@whyme1163 4 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to ask, but if you could please: next time you go can you please send a prayer and love out to all the brave and innocence one that did or worst. Thank you
@charlesdutch3765
@charlesdutch3765 2 жыл бұрын
I did.
@rylansato
@rylansato 10 ай бұрын
My wife and I are going to Okinawa in August and that’s my primary place to visit.
@franneep
@franneep 10 ай бұрын
I lived on Okinawa in the late 1960s. A beautiful and magical and tragic place.
@luckyguy71
@luckyguy71 4 жыл бұрын
That was painful to watch - but necessary. War is never a heroic movie. The sooner everyone in the world learns this the better everyone will be.
@nightslasher9384
@nightslasher9384 4 жыл бұрын
@Joshua N. Ajang Soon, when Iran's war attack US, everyone will finally realise the mistake they did.
@batrachian149
@batrachian149 4 жыл бұрын
@False Feathers We struck first. Look up Mossadegh.
@ousamadearu5960
@ousamadearu5960 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it will never be. Unless if you make a perfect war weapon that will make wars obsolete, and even then war is something you cannot change.
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 4 жыл бұрын
@@ousamadearu5960 World superpowers did made a super weapon. That stopped wars using the super weapon, but not stopping war with conventional weapons.
@razi_man
@razi_man 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Americans inject their propaganda in this reply section, US attacked and invaded Middle Eastern countries first, it was an illegal entry, it does not matter what their "intention" was because it is still a war crime. Besides, imagine if Germans invaded the US illegally and killed everyone they see in hope of "eliminating terrorists", you are literally shooting civilians in hopes that some of them are criminals, no country wants this sort of bullshit except America.
@RexWort
@RexWort 3 жыл бұрын
*School girl:* "Oh no! Im going to be a magical girl!!" *Grandma:* "Better position what I got when I was a school girl!!"
@UltimateAlgorithm
@UltimateAlgorithm 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen modern magical girl? It's no different than being a soldier.
@abdullahbinjahed6900
@abdullahbinjahed6900 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateAlgorithm hahaha ... that's true
@jacketguy5735
@jacketguy5735 2 жыл бұрын
*laughs in madoka magica and mahou shoujo site
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacketguy5735 Things like madoka magica are deconstructions of the genre though.
@serencefrostbite3362
@serencefrostbite3362 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManoredRed yeah like that witch deconstructed mami
@two.lettuce5362
@two.lettuce5362 3 жыл бұрын
I am German and my grandparents lived trough the war. The stories my grandma told about the bombings were really hard to stomach, too. She was around the age of the himeyuri girls when she had to help dig through ruins for survivors after the bombing. I was 35 when she first talked about having to pull classmates' remains from the rubble. I will never forget her expression while she told about these horrors.
@nyxol3664
@nyxol3664 3 жыл бұрын
"You cant deal with this much pain? Youre a japanese soldier, arent you" "You need help from highschool girls to save these dying men? Youre a japanese surgeon, arent you?"
@BMoser-bv6kn
@BMoser-bv6kn 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the petty insults were to anger the patient, maybe squeeze a little adrenaline to kill the pain. It's meager, but there is a rational reason to say such a thing when there's nothing else at hand. Or the guy was an asshole.
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 2 жыл бұрын
@@BMoser-bv6kn The soldier was literally begging to die, telling him to man up and live is not the worst thing one could say.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
Wartime medical need is hugely different than civilian peacetime medical need. Conscription and volunteer corps filling out the difference was more of a norm. As the war approaches the Home Islands, there's a lot of civilians in general. Japanese settlers and workers, korean and chinese forced labour.
@nyxol3664
@nyxol3664 2 жыл бұрын
@@BMoser-bv6kn im hoping the first one is the case
@reginleifr7300
@reginleifr7300 4 жыл бұрын
God this brought me to tears. Those poor brave girls. Also Taira sensei, he had such a difficult choice to make.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a teacher trying to protect your students ugh..
@reginleifr7300
@reginleifr7300 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy Those girls looking at you for guidance because you're the teacher/adult but you were forced into this yourself and have no idea what to do. But you have to keep it together for those girls you want to protect. Difficult situation would be an understatement. Btw thanks for sharing this. I never heard of this part of history. Maybe because I know more of what happened in Europe that time. Being german history lessons only skim Japanese involvement. History lessons only ever taught me about Pearl Habour and Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@reginleifr7300 yeah, same with high school education here in the US
@reginleifr7300
@reginleifr7300 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy Good to know the curriculum is bad wherever you go xD
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@reginleifr7300 there are only so many hours of history in a week so its kinda obvious they will tell more history of were you live then of asia
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 3 жыл бұрын
I went to a memorial for these girls as part of a school trip. It’s really something. These girls were teenagers, barely older than us at the time if not younger.
@user-rc7dl6yl2u
@user-rc7dl6yl2u 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the situation when kids were forced to go into the battlefield during the WWII is not uncommon. When I was a schoolgirl, on every May the 9th we given lessons about this particular war and how horrific it was for our land (we actually often called it the Great Patriotic War back then, nowerdays this term is not used in Ukraine due to the decommunization) . And I was actually surprised how many children photos there were among all those war photographs. We were taught, that most of these children were orphans and lost or abandoned kids, found on the devastated lands and adopted by the soldiers. These are called camp followers or military brats in English-speaking countries, but the term we use to call them could be roughly translated as "Children of the Regiment". But some of them were not just survivors and left behind. Some boys and girls willingly ran away from their homes to help to fight the nazis. Others lied about their age to be declared fit. I remember there was a testimony of one of such girls in our history book. When she was 14, she and her older sister ran from home to become radio operators and went through all the of war. And... Thinking about that, this is horrible. Children and teen shouldn't go to war. But they did. And that's on of the reasons why such inhumane abomination like the Second World War was must never happen again. Children are not supposed to face all these horrors and blood. They are not cut out for death, war crimes, murder, suffering, food rationings, sieges, famines, bombs, misery, concentration camps, homes burned to the ground, hospitals overcrowded with wounded and agonising soldiers, sleepless nights and constant fear. I just hope there will the time, when wars finally vanish and exist only in books, films and video games, and that one day a child will ask his parents what is war, and they wouldn't be able to find the exact answer, for the war have become just a distant nightmare, some kind of horrible mistake that their ancestors did once long ago, and it was so unspeakably terrible, that should never happen again. Alas, don't think this could become the reality soon. Not in this century
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately, war is not going away any time soon. On the bright side, the size of wars and the number of casualties are on a downward trend.
@user-rc7dl6yl2u
@user-rc7dl6yl2u 4 жыл бұрын
Let's just hope that we won't use the nukes... Or biological weapons, which are actually WAY worse.
@johnathanmagliari8461
@johnathanmagliari8461 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you and your family are OK .
@minhchaubuingoc8384
@minhchaubuingoc8384 2 жыл бұрын
2 years later and here we are, anticipating a third ww
@Davey-Boyd
@Davey-Boyd Жыл бұрын
Oh my. And here we are again, with war in Europe. I really hope you and your loved ones are OK. Best wishes from the UK.
@lonelittlejerry917
@lonelittlejerry917 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this topic is different from a lot of your other videos. Pretty epic
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like =)
@TheColombianSpartan
@TheColombianSpartan 4 жыл бұрын
i'd say anyone of any aege is too young, or too old for war. War is something horrible i wish wasn't so damn rooted in us
@unknownaura
@unknownaura 3 жыл бұрын
"pretty epic" cringe
@lonelittlejerry917
@lonelittlejerry917 3 жыл бұрын
@@unknownaura Ok
@LuinTathren
@LuinTathren 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great video! Tales like these absolutely NEED to be told. To hell with KZbin's draconian algorithms! Thank you very much.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Not many people outside japan know about this, I think. There's also the high school boys..
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy were they ordered to fight or something like that?
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lepibel look up the Tekketsu Kinnotai. They were in the front lines, mostly used as builders and suicide bombers...
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy 'they were given 'honor' of fighting under the emperor' smh. its so sad they made people actually believe in this stupid shit (propaganda)
@turtlepenguinXkizuna
@turtlepenguinXkizuna 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy fwiw my husband knew about the high school boys but he didn’t know about the Himeyuri either - I think as more time passes, fewer and fewer people know about these events even in Japan. It might be more common knowledge in Okinawa but I suspect not on the mainland. :(
@haato3053
@haato3053 4 жыл бұрын
The photos at the end which showed how young they were really made me cry. God! They were so innocent 😣
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed :/
@kenjiueta6092
@kenjiueta6092 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Okinawan. My mother was 9 yrs old during that time and she, the family and some villagers had to flee to the jungles to survive. They were found by the American soldiers, fed them and kept them safe. I hear many stories from old Okinawans who was treated kindly by the US soldiers. It was the other soldiers who did bad and I feel sorry for them too. War is evil..
@ScrolledAgain
@ScrolledAgain 4 жыл бұрын
I will argue to the death that civilians, especially girls, felt the war the hardest. My grandmother survived the fire bombings by crouching in their cellar which had filled with water. There was one chair designated for her grandmother. She was traumatized for life noting that the entire city of Osaka where she was became entirely flat. They used their rice silo to feed the entire town and could see 2 miles to the train station. Her sister became a nun after to bring peace to herself. I cannot imagine how these girls must have felt. I cried a bit watching it looking at their smiling faces in the photographs. They deserved better. So much better. I will make a note to visit that place when I go.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear what happened to your grandmother and her sister. It's good that you got to listen to their firsthand experience.
@leeham6230
@leeham6230 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting story, but claiming that civilian girls felt the war harder than anyone is a stretch.
@mariam-eq2fy
@mariam-eq2fy 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeham6230 yeah
@billybob7618
@billybob7618 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a sad story, but I don’t know about the whole civilian girls feeling the war harder than any other group. There was tons of shitshows that all played a part in the clusterfuck that was WWII, and I don’t think civi girls as a collective felt the effects worse than other groups such as Jews, eastern front soldiers, Slavs, etc.
@peenoice5176
@peenoice5176 3 жыл бұрын
What about tortured pows?
@Butterballz23
@Butterballz23 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated, great work as always this one was intense
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I was reading their words for research and they were heartbreaking.
@whyme1163
@whyme1163 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@b305h0
@b305h0 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@sovietlamar1294
@sovietlamar1294 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin: there are 9 other comments on this video me: can i see them youtube: no
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
what did you do to piss youtube off?
@hilfemajster4234
@hilfemajster4234 4 жыл бұрын
He broke the secret rule of KZbin.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@hilfemajster4234 which is?
@ScandiNinja
@ScandiNinja 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy rule nr 1 of the secret youtube rule: dont talk about the secret rules 🤪
@hilfemajster4234
@hilfemajster4234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy I don't know it's secret but i know that once you break (at least) one of them algorithm will hate you.
@Alorand
@Alorand 4 жыл бұрын
Saying that they were too young implies that there is a right age for such horrors. No, war is hell, and we should avoid it at all costs.
@rorystockley5969
@rorystockley5969 4 жыл бұрын
Not at all costs. Sometimes war is necessary; that's all-but undeniable.
@Alorand
@Alorand 4 жыл бұрын
@@rorystockley5969 Which wars do you consider undeniably necessary? Any examples besides WW2? The reason that I am excluding WW2 from the discussion is because it has become mythologized to the point that talking about it rationally has become difficult.
@batrachian149
@batrachian149 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alorand The Slavic peoples in WWII were fighting for their very survival. The intent of the Nazis was nothing less than genocide. But if you want an example outside of WWII, look to the wars between the Native Americans and the US government, which were also wars to prevent genocide.
@Alorand
@Alorand 4 жыл бұрын
@@batrachian149 Interesting example. The wars between the Native Americans and the US government have been somewhat mythologized, but not to the point that we can't discuss the matter. Do you believe that the Native Americans succeeded in preserving more of their way of life by fighting the settlers, or was it a brave (and as you are arguing necessary) attempt that ultimately proved futile? In your opinion are there necessary offensive or preemptive wars? For me it is interesting that both of your examples were defensive wars that came after a period of great societal upheaval (bolshevik revolution and the Americas plague).
@batrachian149
@batrachian149 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alorand Well I first have to say that I take issue with your emphasis on mythologization of any event. Mythologized or not, the facts of the matter are still very present to be pulled from least biased sources. Regarding the Native Americans, I'm not sure. No comment. Regarding necessary offensive wars, you might consider WWII to be that, since the first party to declare war proper was the UK due to Germany's aggression. Going way back into history, there was also the rising of the Gauls against Rome. They were facing genocide and subjugation if they did not aggress first, so they aggressed. Additionally, if you consider a large scale revolution to be a war then I'd say the February Revolution was a justified war of aggression, as the Tsar's rule was truly awful and refused to change.
@PrivateHaggard
@PrivateHaggard 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, so forcing the civilians out of the caves seems like a dick move at first. But knowing how amican troops dealt with Japanese units entrenched in caves this might actually be a blessing in disguise. Giving them a slim chance to surrender to the Americans. Here goes: To clear out caves the marines used a combination of flame projectors and bazookas, firing the flames into the entrance of the cave to literally drive out or suffocate the Japanese with the smoke of the fuel oil and shooting the bazookas into the volcanic walls where they tore of a literal storm of sharp rock fragments they ricocheted into the cave, cutting men down. That strategy was pioneered in the Marshall's in 1944 and used extensively on Okinawa as well. (Source is James D. Hornfishers "The Fleet at Flood Tide: America at Total War in the Pacific 1944 - 1945)
@bryanadkins6776
@bryanadkins6776 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, the way Japanese fought the war really discouraged Americans from fighting in any other manner.
@annetheurich507
@annetheurich507 3 жыл бұрын
I am a nurse and I thought I was young after getting a BS in nursing at 22 years old! I was a nurses aide from 16 until I graduated but that didn’t compare. Brave selfless girls!
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
Carlin described it as heroic, I think he mentioned Alamo. But like Alamo repeated over and over, each time with division-scale sacrifices and people fully aware of how awful the last heroic last stand ended. Japanese imperial command runs a doctrine where people will be placed in impossible positions repeatedly, undersupplied. If you need more food or bullets or morphine you just need to kill the british garrison and take theirs.
@vliegendegieter106
@vliegendegieter106 4 жыл бұрын
My heart just broke while watching this video, I just started crying while watching those photos at the end. Thank you for this video, this should be more known
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was reading their words while doing the research. Wow 😥
@ShAmW0W808
@ShAmW0W808 4 жыл бұрын
I finally found a video about this place, came here this past November with my family. I’m a first generation Okinawan living in Hawaii and my mom really wanted to come here and pay her respects, and I all I can say is....wow. To the cave that you see by the main entrance to the whole exhibit with all the students and their pictures this was a lot to take for my mother. I’m so glad we got to come here to get a better understanding to what exactly happened during the battle of Okinawa, the okinawan people were treated unfairly and cruel by the empire of japan. More civilians died than soldiers that’s insane
@MrsLadyPerez
@MrsLadyPerez 4 жыл бұрын
Please make the video reading the girls' writings. I would love to know more of what they saw
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm will think about it..
@JJP-lb3ek
@JJP-lb3ek 4 жыл бұрын
That would be nice. I feel there is much to learn in what they had to say.
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
he will prob not do it again cuz he doesn't get a lot of money of this type of content. btw, this vid got demonetized
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lepibel is that a challenge?? 😈
@Lepibel
@Lepibel 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy you won't do it!!!!!! ( am hoping that you will do one now)
@kainaluhikalea4641
@kainaluhikalea4641 4 жыл бұрын
Japan: Okinawa is getting invade!!!! Japanese emperor: send the children
@myDickbiG
@myDickbiG 3 жыл бұрын
its the general with higher rank that wanted to invade pacific not the emperor the emperor wanted to stop the war but because hes scared that the japanese army will kill him
@Cneq
@Cneq 3 жыл бұрын
Emperor of Japan had as much power as the Emperor of China They were both puppets of Japan.
@cyberdiver7076
@cyberdiver7076 3 жыл бұрын
True, the prime minister at the time was the one in power. The Emperor was just a figure head after the Meiji restoration. Even though it stared the Emperor had absolute power, it was in the end, just a convenient way for the prime minister to control.
@TheLouHam
@TheLouHam 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that Hirohito had no power and therefore, not to blame for the unspeakable war crimes that the Japanese committed is a post-war lie by the Japanese in order to protect his legacy. It’s proven now that he was just as a big of a warmonger than any general and admiral of the Japanese military.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
@@myDickbiG The role of the emperor is weird. The emperor has a lot of potential power in the meiji constitution. He's also traditionally not wielding a lot of it. It's a weird little system that insulates the emperor from the consequences of power. The US prosecution will have some initial thoughts about that, if you had the power to sue for peace in '45 why didn't you do it in '36? The army can't kill him. A lot of what they do is to protect and preserve the guy, the future of the emperor is an important as they try to negotiate. To have the emperor hang like the NSDAP leadership does would be unthinkable, or have a random bomb hit him. These guys genuinely think he is the divine ruler of the nation. The US occupational government decides it's not worth the fuss to drag him before trial. Everyone is politely skipping over any conversations with the emperor. Officers get hanged rather than trying to shift any blame on the emperor.
@Ikatsu-hs
@Ikatsu-hs 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, this made me cry.
@JJP-lb3ek
@JJP-lb3ek 4 жыл бұрын
Ikatsu Hayashi Me too man... I somehow cant believe a soldier would shoot someone who surrenders, let alone a group of girls fleeing from a battlefield.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
I was reading their words while researching and they were heartbreaking.
@michealarchangel637
@michealarchangel637 4 жыл бұрын
@@JJP-lb3ek war breaks people, its not glory and honor that just what they use to make you fight.
@edi9892
@edi9892 4 жыл бұрын
I´m not very empathic, but stories about WWII somehow keep bypassing my emotional spam-filter. I don´t cry, but it makes me sad thinking about all this suffering and death for pretty much nothing.
@candescence
@candescence 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to cry but then I started sobbing at the dinner table.
@hollundergiersch8691
@hollundergiersch8691 3 жыл бұрын
Why isn't this Story thaught in school? I'm German, and every year, really every year WW2 was on the menu... One story like this would've helped alot better to understand that war is simply pure horror instead of listening how unfair the poltical situation was back then🤔
@vivanyatodd5036
@vivanyatodd5036 3 жыл бұрын
I think it depend on where are you. I got taught about this in Indonesia, but as we were enslaved by Japan at that time, many of the stories glossed over children being killed, raped, saw their entire family got killed and joined the rebels who save them, or the rebels using guerrila(?) tactics hiding weeks in the woods living off insects and fruits while the wounded's wound became infected and they eventually died, or the adults common folks who either became a slave worked non-stop or forced to 'serve' the Japanese soldiers. They didn't give out much details though, I think it's too gore for school curiculum, but teachers sometimes recommended books for us who wanted to know more and have guts to read through the horror.
@kattiesotelo8377
@kattiesotelo8377 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy: what woul you do if you go drafted into WW2 Me: *RUN*
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@lkzhang820
@lkzhang820 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like Vietnam War……
@10jonapi
@10jonapi 3 жыл бұрын
Vietnam in a nutshell
@Re-2005
@Re-2005 3 жыл бұрын
In these days if you're drafted go volunteer and make sure your ASVAB score is high that way you won't get infantry or Frontline combat units
@EmmaAppleBerry
@EmmaAppleBerry 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr fk tht im going tarzan id rather die eating a poison mushroom than let my spirit die in war.
@Vortexiiixii
@Vortexiiixii 4 жыл бұрын
5:05 That's jelly filled donut!
@artypyrec4186
@artypyrec4186 4 жыл бұрын
I take it you turn frying pans into drying pans when it rains?
@dreysantillan
@dreysantillan 4 жыл бұрын
Noble has killed this meme But it spreaded elsewhere it seems
@normanho5631
@normanho5631 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreysantillan so did he actually kill it?
@tongying2558
@tongying2558 4 жыл бұрын
@@normanho5631 no
@simsgirlgem
@simsgirlgem 4 жыл бұрын
I think my heart broke into pieces hearing this no child should be forced to do these things
@toymationstudios8613
@toymationstudios8613 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the US army was saying: *HA April's Fool*
@kairinase
@kairinase 4 жыл бұрын
They chose April cause its good for establishing things... That's why there's still a US military base in Okinawa to this day. If you want to change things you choose January as a starting month.
@toymationstudios8613
@toymationstudios8613 4 жыл бұрын
@@kairinase well then
@oddballtherighteous6681
@oddballtherighteous6681 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind no one knew who shot that guy, Japanese also shot their own who were surrendering thinking it was a dishonor and betrayal to them. For those that were killed by US GIs many Japanese surrendered with the plan to blow themselves up with grenades right next to GIs so it became policy to be on edge when a Japanese surrendered. Then there were the few GIs that either went insane and killed them, those that had such strong hate and grudges, and new recruits who were either trigger happy or scared and had no idea what to do so they just shot them. All of it together shows how extreme war can change one's psych regardless of mental strength. And thank God we never have to see it on this scale for now
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 4 жыл бұрын
@@oddballtherighteous6681 Sure, American troops never shot surrendering Japanese.
@ihavenonameforyou1
@ihavenonameforyou1 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudieHolland Many of those stories are distorted and considering what the Japanese soldiers did to the Chinese this is basically giving them gifts even if it happened as they describe it.
@kikyamart8749
@kikyamart8749 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone should learn that in high school...
@balthiersgirl2658
@balthiersgirl2658 4 жыл бұрын
How come you don't I did in England
@kikyamart8749
@kikyamart8749 4 жыл бұрын
@@balthiersgirl2658 you don't learn how to be an EMT in high school... Maybe some CPR but even that is a stretch...
@samuraijackoff5354
@samuraijackoff5354 4 жыл бұрын
We only learned the basics of the war. Who fought and why, why the war happened, what was used and what it lead to.
@kikyamart8749
@kikyamart8749 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuraijackoff5354 I think everyone should spend a year or two in service when they are 18, it would prepare for the life in a big way...
@kikyamart8749
@kikyamart8749 4 жыл бұрын
@That sorta irish guy thats exactly why they SHOULD, they shouldn't ask others to do what they themselves are not willing to do...
@trischas.2809
@trischas.2809 4 жыл бұрын
1945, on the other side of the planet, Germany Most Male youths ended up at the front iin one way or another. The fronts came in. Anybody above 18 and not necessary because they worked in an arms manufacturing or vital food production position was already drafted by requirement. The rest however were not spared: Starting September 25th 1944, males of 16-60 were all put into military service as part of what was called "Volkssturm". By October 18th, ng men of 25-50 with a job in a factory producing military goods were handed a rifle or maybe an anti tank weapon and sent to guard some position for short periods. The rest already was at the frontlines. Technically, everybody was drafted. Those below 25 were not spared though: who wasn't already a soldier, running errands or working for one or another organisation was drafted if they were 16 or older, put up with some very short training, and then sent off to do errands, guard sometimes nonsensical positions or keep the logistics rolling. Non-compliance was not an option and was sometimes punished by death. A short glimps at the lot of one such group is for example "Die Brücke", an authobiographic narration of Gregor Dorfmeister modeled after this incident: Dorfmeister himself was forced into service in late April 1945 about a month after his 16th birthday and trained how to use his rifle for a few days. On the first of may, he was sent to guard a bridge over the Loisach with 7 others. When this position fell, only 3 survived and they were ordered to guard another bridge in Bad Tölz the next day. Dorfmeister fled. His fellows were killed as thir position was overrun. In an Interview on 2nd of May 2015 he said, exactly 70 years after the incident: „Ich ging zur Brücke, da lagen die beiden tot da, eine alte Frau ging vorüber und bespuckte sie. Ich werde dieses Bild nie vergessen.“ (I went to the bridge, there the two lay dead, an old woman passed by and spit on them. I will never forget this picture)
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
oof
@hanyouangel93
@hanyouangel93 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a similar fate in the war. Once he turned 18 during the war he was sent off to the front. He told me that all those who refused were imprisoned or worse... He had no affiliation with the army or the party, his father was a woodworker and they lived in the countryside. He was sent to France, where he saw a fellow soldier killed a few feet in front of him during an ambush. He was eventually captured by the Americans and spent the rest of the war in a prison camp. Luckily he survived, but when we would ask him about his experiences he would eventually start to cry, still traumatized. He was a good man, and I really miss him.
@sugarplumprincess6833
@sugarplumprincess6833 4 жыл бұрын
Trischa S., At lest one boy did get away with refusing to comply (Kurt Hasel, his little sister, Susie Hasel Mundy, wrote a book about their family's experience during the war called A Thousand Shall Fall.)
@John77Doe
@John77Doe 4 жыл бұрын
After the American soldiers looted the dead Japanese soldiers taking gold tooths and jewelry, my father and his friend were allowed to take anything that the American soldiers didn't want and they started taking off their combat blouses and it looked like some of the soldiers had female breasts. When they pulled off the pants off the dead Japanese soldiers, they found out that the soldiers were Japanese women with military crew cuts. Well, they might have been Korean or Taiwanese women. 😞😞😞😞😞😞
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
=(
@ab9840
@ab9840 4 жыл бұрын
So by what some have been saying it seems the so called main Japanese islanders, the so called pure Japanese (not including the Ainu the native people of the main Japanese islands), used the Okinawans, Taiwanese and Koreans (ethnic groups of the Empire) has cannon fodder. I do know that of the early 20 century Japanese citizens to migrate to Brazil, most were from the Okinawa islands. During the late 20 century, many Brazilians of Okinawan stock, after being invited by the Japanese government which needed workers, migrated to Japan. Problem is they were never really accepted into the society so many turned to there Brazilian side while in Japan. Why the US did not keep the Okinawa islands after WW II is strange. After all, the Okinawa islands had originally been the Ryukuy Kingdom which had been forcibly annexed by Japan in the 19 century.
@mercuryistired7191
@mercuryistired7191 3 жыл бұрын
Rip those soldiers may they rest in peace
@wolfrainexxx
@wolfrainexxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@ab9840 You mean how Germany was allowed to keep swathes of land after WWII, and how China was allowed to occupy all its neighbors while Japan was tossed under the bus? Or how nobody ever talks about the indigenous genocides committed by Spain? It's because nobody actually cares about actual peace... go look up the era of Orphan Trains.
@ab9840
@ab9840 2 жыл бұрын
After WW II, Germany proper was partitioned into two. Japan proper was never partitioned. The Germans also had to give up Prussia, eastern Prussia which was annexed by Poland and Russia. When it comes to China you must be talking about Tibet and Xinjiang. They were always considered by the Chinese part of China in one way or another. Just look at this map which depicts the Qing empire in 1820 - upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Qing_Dynasty_1820.png When it comes to the Europeans treatment of the natives, yes the natives were many times not treated well and wiped out. But today where are the native groups with the most population located. Its in the parts once controlled by the Spanish. The native populations in the parts controlled by the Anglos have been decimated. This explains why Anglo North America has less natives then most of Spanish Americas. In the US for example, natives land were most always taken from them. One native group of the Pueblo natives of the US state of New Mexico did not have there land taken by the US since they had a legal Spanish deed to the land given to them by the King of Spain centuries ago.
@fetijajasari6624
@fetijajasari6624 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very impressive and heartbreaking video! It's very important to know history as to not repeat it. Also,these girls,mere kids, really are heroines in my opinion and deserve to be remembered!
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
Carlin described the mood in Japan as heroic patriotism. Like you take the Alamo or the charge of the Light Brigade with all the tragic heroism and sacrifice. But then you just repeat it, over and over. Instead of one Alamo you have dozens of them with corps-scale sacrifices. The imperial command is fully aware that all these little islands are going to be heroic last stands.
@youngking2503
@youngking2503 4 жыл бұрын
This was an incredible story man. Heroic and tragic
@relaxinggospelsongs2730
@relaxinggospelsongs2730 Жыл бұрын
12:40 "the girls didnt want to fall behind in class..." that breaks my heart alot...such pure souls of them...RIP🥀🙏
@Katherine_The_Okay
@Katherine_The_Okay 4 жыл бұрын
Those poor girls. I worked in an emergency room as a teen and I can barely imagine what it must have been like for them. War is something that needs to be demythologized. It may sometimes be necessary, but it's never glorious. It's never a good thing. When the dust clears, there are no winners and loses, only victims and worse victims.
@kaydeegreene6574
@kaydeegreene6574 4 жыл бұрын
*"their country and their emperor" kinda, many still felt Ryukyuan {former name of the Okinawan Kingdom and its people} more than Japanese (some people still do, it's an interesting conversation to have if people are willing to open up). Many people still only spoke the Ryukyu language. Before the Americans landed, Japanese soldiers would sometimes kill the people for speaking languages other than Japanese, not taking into account that many, mostly the elderly had never learned Japanese, only the Ryukyu language(s). Museums on Okinawa Honshu (the main island) mostly show the civilian side rather than the US or Japanese side. But they do try to be fair to everyone. The Island is covered in caves that you can go in (please show respect) I have stumbled upon shrines to the dead and ancestral gods for keeping people safe as well as artifacts from people who used the caves. (shoe sole, lots of cans and metal bits). If you see the caves take nothing this is living memory for a people who were already being abused by the country some of them were forced to fight for.
@whyme1163
@whyme1163 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you more people need to know what it is for
@Contessamy
@Contessamy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, it was very touching! Also great to put things into context even more, as I recently finished reading "The rape of Nanking". I can only conclude that war was horrid, no matter which side one fought for, and we should never let such atrocities happen again.
@StormCrow702
@StormCrow702 3 жыл бұрын
Still small scale atrocities happen everyday don’t hold your breath.
@tamarf4596
@tamarf4596 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched two Asian Boss videos interviewing two survivng "comfort women", from Korea and the Philippines. This Linfamy video just drove home the point that the Japanese army was horrible to women and girls everywhere, even in Japan.
@Sashimi_Boy2404
@Sashimi_Boy2404 Жыл бұрын
I had Japanese ancestors in Guam who had to hide from the Japanese troops because they saw them as traitors simply for becoming an American immigrant
@user-wy8cs2dk1h
@user-wy8cs2dk1h 10 ай бұрын
It's like other armies don't rape women
@tamarf4596
@tamarf4596 10 ай бұрын
@@user-wy8cs2dk1h Japan refused to acknowledge it and to give reparations or even an apology, for decades. And yes, it happened in other armies and all atrocities need to be uncoverd, discussed and acknowledged.
@user-wy8cs2dk1h
@user-wy8cs2dk1h 9 ай бұрын
@@tamarf4596 War criminals who commit rape are punished properly. China has abandoned reparations in the first place, and South Korea has finished paying. In South Korea, the government embezzled
@lovelylavenderr
@lovelylavenderr 8 ай бұрын
@@tamarf4596It also didn't happen on the same scale of other armies, at least the Allied powers. The Germans and especially Soviets did a lot of rapes as well, but even that does not compare to the IJA.
@Luvmyswag
@Luvmyswag 2 жыл бұрын
5:43 That sergeant had a lot of endurance, same for the high school girls that went through this nightmare.
@CosmicDuskWolf
@CosmicDuskWolf 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting hearing the stories of people who went through war. It just goes to show how horrible it is for everyone involved.
@MistarZtv
@MistarZtv 4 жыл бұрын
This is just terrifying and heartbreaking to hear. I've never been so moved by your content before. To think the children on rest of Japan would've had to face the same terrible experience and treatment from both the american and their own imperial side, had the war managed to escalate into a full on mainland invasion.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was hard reading thru their words while I was researching
@sarahisatitagain
@sarahisatitagain 2 жыл бұрын
This was the most heart breaking video I've seen in your channel so far. But it was good to know about the reality of war for Japanese civilians. Often we don't have a narrative about what the civilians whent through, even less about women and children. Is it an awful reality? Yes. But this is the fate of war.
@usvidragonslayer3091
@usvidragonslayer3091 4 жыл бұрын
This topic is so sad. These high school girls when to the battlefield at a young age (15 to 19 years old) to help treat wounded men in WWII. I wish these girls didnt have to go through that hell...
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine having to go through that at 15..
@alexandramaun7366
@alexandramaun7366 4 жыл бұрын
So do the poor girls who were forced to become "comfort women"
@usvidragonslayer3091
@usvidragonslayer3091 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexandramaun7366 yeah... I totally agree with you there...
@shannonluster5083
@shannonluster5083 3 жыл бұрын
That was so tragic, but I'm glad you made it. What heroic kids
@chiiicharooon
@chiiicharooon 4 жыл бұрын
A himeyuri manga would be dope and depressing at the same time
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 3 жыл бұрын
I think there already is one
@frds_skce
@frds_skce 2 жыл бұрын
@@DakotaofRaptors do you have the sauce? I would love to see the manga
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 2 жыл бұрын
@@frds_skce I can't find it :/
@frds_skce
@frds_skce 2 жыл бұрын
@@DakotaofRaptors Damn it. This sucks. But aaaa don't sweat too much about it. It's only a bonus if we found it, but nothing was loss if there was none. Still, thanks for the efforts
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 2 жыл бұрын
@@frds_skce there is a manga about the Battle of Peleliu tho
@TheRambest
@TheRambest 4 жыл бұрын
I heard about this while studying WW2 at home in holidays. Thanks for given us more knowledge about this events
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@cota2303
@cota2303 Жыл бұрын
As a female student living in Okinawa, I studied about Himeyuri and actually went to the cave as part of my peace education. The teacher asked us to turn off the lights so that we could experience what it was like in those days, and when I was in the dark cave, I thought about how scary and painful it would have been if I had been in this place 80 years ago, and some students around me started crying. Also, my grandparents were born at the end of the war, so they taught me a lot about how my great-grandparents escaped and about the period when Okinawa was under US rule.
@cota2303
@cota2303 Жыл бұрын
You can look up dark stories in archives or on the Internet, so here is one interesting story. After the war, Okinawa was burnt to the ground and one out of every four civilians died. My grandmother lost her father and sister, and life became difficult. My grandma was employed by the US military base and made the most money in her family 😂 (because at that time there were dozens of times more wealth between Japan and the US, she was paid more than a full time man in a Japanese company lol) She used the money to visit relatives in the mainland and friends who had moved to Hawaii.
@cota2303
@cota2303 Жыл бұрын
Even today, about 80% of the U.S. military bases in Japan are concentrated in Okinawa. Many incidents and accidents have occurred between U.S. soldiers and Okinawans, and problems caused by the war have not been resolved. Furthermore, a 🇺🇦🇷🇺 war is brewing, and Japanese public opinion is concerned about the Taiwan contingency and, by extension, Japan's involvement in the war.
@cota2303
@cota2303 Жыл бұрын
People are terribly indifferent to things they have nothing to do with. For God's sake, let's be as considerate of them as we are of ourselves. I don't want war to happen and I don't want soldiers to kill me. I don't want terrible things to happen to Asian girls of my generation as well, and I don't want anyone in the world to be unhappy.
@ChibiQilin
@ChibiQilin 4 жыл бұрын
7:20 Hey, kicking them out of the cage is a lot better than what I expected. I thought they'd forcefully use the girls for "comfort", as the Japanese military is very well known for all across Asia.
@motherhoodsbeauty9279
@motherhoodsbeauty9279 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they do that to their own people?
@Dtitilator
@Dtitilator 3 жыл бұрын
They'd only do that to the enemy civilians.
@motherhoodsbeauty9279
@motherhoodsbeauty9279 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dtitilator It’s really fuck up if you think about it. They might do that to their own people too we don’t know.
@frds_skce
@frds_skce 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of things that happened during the war, and what you assumed might just happen. Because it was unrecorded, we couldn't say what would happen. But i know people, i know what they would during the moment of opportunity, especially during big confusion such is war. I'll leave it to your imagination to what happened.
@lyhthegreat
@lyhthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 just so you know, back then the japanese did not really considered okinawans as their "own people"...
@1Amiel1
@1Amiel1 3 жыл бұрын
I just went to the shrine of Himeyuri in Okinawa. I saw the cave that they had to do their duties as active members of the Japanese Imperial Army. Also, I saw the pictures of teachers and the students that died in the war. There was a video of testimonies in the museum of survivors. I remember one of them telling the audience that she heard a wounded Japanese soldier come out of the bushes. Then she heard someone say, "Come out!" in a weird Japanese accent (American soldiers) and then the next thing she knew bullets started to be fired onto her and her classmates. Her friend immediately sunk her head on the shoulder of the teller and she knew that her friend was gone. Another video was when they were marching and one student was hit with a grenade and the shrapnel tore a hole in her stomach. She said the words her classmates said to her, "Leave me. I'm done for!" while her other classmates cheered her on in the hopes she will be all right, later that night the girl passed away while talking about her wishes for her family. Lastly, the museum ended with the pictures and little notes on each student/teacher. The hardest part was reading how they died. I saw one entry that had a 14 year old die due to suicide by a grenade.
@charleswood2182
@charleswood2182 2 жыл бұрын
My former mother-in-law was 14 in Okinawa. She was upper class, but I believe she was in Naha. So to say these girls were Japanese: No. They were Okinawan. That's important to say. Her older classmates were forced into service as you describe. Nobuko's family was upper class. Her father sent her and her younger brother away from Naha to stay with relatives to the north. The relatives had no food to share. They fed them once and sent away. Her brother told me in the '70's that his sister had a crush on a Japanese soldier. Nobuko gave him a sweater before the soldiers left. The two children followed not much later I suppose. For The brother saw the soldier dead, and knew it was him because he had on Nobuko's sweater. They had a hard time as you describe, although perhaps not as hard as the nurses whose stories you tell. They did surrender later. And survived. The brother told me that a USA jeep surprised them on the road. They had been hiding themselves and foraging. They put up their hands. They did go to concentration camp.
@turtlepenguinXkizuna
@turtlepenguinXkizuna 4 жыл бұрын
Okay I managed to hold it together until you got to the number of girls that died and was then pretty much sobbing the whole rest of the way through 😭 I love your videos for teaching us things even if they make me cry into my teacup before breakfast on Sunday morning 😭❤️
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, don't cry. Yeah, it was hard to read their words when I was doing the research.
@elamonty
@elamonty 4 жыл бұрын
First off, great video. Second, how badass are you to not scream out in pain while having your arm cut off? My God, the sense of honor can make people incredible.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Very badass for sure
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
Carlin described it as heroism, going out and enduring that. But also how sickening heroism can be. You do one Charge of the Light Brigade and it's a heroic tragedy. But then you call up a second wave and do the same thing again. And somewhere when you're doing the Charge of the 12th Light Brigade it's just a grinder. And you're in the 14th Light Brigade, it's your turn in a bit and you're aware of how little the previous ones have changed things.
@lkzhang820
@lkzhang820 4 жыл бұрын
For a Chinses person like me,we seldom know the story like this,but we do know that Japanese government used students as paramilitary personels.
@alvinsmith3894
@alvinsmith3894 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know about the tiananmen square and Guangxi massacres?
@justingibson7807
@justingibson7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvinsmith3894 Imperial japan and communist china are equally evil.
@Salted_Fysh
@Salted_Fysh 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, I don't want to sound heartless in front of this heartbreaking story but during the entire video I couldn't get over the fact that World War 2 was subtitled as WaWa2. Still, good video.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
:P
@thevideogamehunger0134
@thevideogamehunger0134 3 жыл бұрын
They could make a movie or Netflix series about these Japanese school girls during WW2.
@thevideogamehunger0134
@thevideogamehunger0134 3 жыл бұрын
10:57 - 10:59 Maybe the Japanese soldier was holding a grenade. Or planned on kill a American soldier. I the series the Pacific there is a part where a wounded Japanese soldier was being pulled up by two Americans. He then yelled something in Japanese reached for a grenade on his outfit. Then blew himself and two American soldiers to pieces. Or maybe it was a soldier that had a brother or a sister who was a nurse or girlfriend that that died at Pearl Harbor (if you watch the movie Pearl Harbor the Japanese planes went for the hospital) or maybe the Japanese tortured Americans which they did. Japanese did some pretty messed up shit during WW2 they would cut off a American soldiers head then cut his penis and balls off and shove it in the head they cut off it was exceptionally fucked up. But the Japanese did it to Americans during WW2. Maybe that's why there were Americans that just shot Japanese who tried to surrender.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 2 жыл бұрын
A historical accurate series done by collab Japanese & American film industries would be really interesting. Get the guys who did Band of Brothers onboard or Saving Private Ryan, director Steven Spielberg, & Sea Without Exit, director Kiyoshi Sasabe. Would love to see it.
@vikingkilroy8599
@vikingkilroy8599 3 жыл бұрын
I was stationed in Okinawa for a short time and on a day off I took a war museum tour. It was informative to say the least, but as an American, probably not the best idea since we were the bad guys in all the stories told. The locals on the tour just stared at us like it was us that killed those girls. Certainly rough to learn about.
@AlexAzureOtaku
@AlexAzureOtaku 4 жыл бұрын
Never expected to cry during a linfamy video
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Aww I'm sorry 💗
@rosswebster7877
@rosswebster7877 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Linfamy! Not as many laughs to be had as your regular videos, but I guess that kind of goes with the territory here. Despite the horror that these girls endured, I’m glad that many of them lived long enough to see peace.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Ancient wars are easy to joke about, modern wars...not so much :p Yes, some survivors currently give talks about their experiences, after staying quiet about it for a long time.
@TheBenBen253
@TheBenBen253 4 жыл бұрын
Good video dude, I cant imagine going through what those poor girls went through.
@joeywall4657
@joeywall4657 4 жыл бұрын
I love your work. But this period in history is extremely depressing. The Japanese government didn't give a good God damn about their own subjects. Losing the war was (probably) the best thing that ever happened to the Japanese common people.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Very depressing, agreed. People like to go over military strategy and troop movements and often lose sight of the horrors on the ground.
@joeywall4657
@joeywall4657 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy hi tech, peaceful, and prosperous today. Japan has been an amazing transformation success story.
@mahiru20ten
@mahiru20ten 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder what would happen if Japan won the war... would that become a big blow to the United States?
@jvtps765
@jvtps765 4 жыл бұрын
@@mahiru20ten The Island Battle itself mattered little. The japenese were also being attacked and pushed back in a few other fronts. But what sealed the deal was the bombs. They were so destructive that even the people involved in its creation were horrified at what they had created. Japan had no answer to a bomb which could wipe out a city. A bomb of that scale was incomprehensible back then.
@Blackmage4001
@Blackmage4001 4 жыл бұрын
@@mahiru20ten I think TNO tries to cover that scenario. Japan by the 60s is the biggest and most prosperous economy leading the co prosperity sphere. But politically is splitting apart at the seams between the conservative army, the reformist navy (and airforce), and the corporatist zaibatsus. So basically Japan could either continue being a militarized cult, turn into a corporatist dystopia or reform into a liberal democracy like otl. This while they're developing China up who could at any time revolt and kick the Japanese out while taking half the co-prosperity sphere with them. (and the CIA are funding communist groups in Japan just to add to the instability)
@ishikakori272
@ishikakori272 4 жыл бұрын
Question at the end 😭😭😭 I can't have any of that 😭😭
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Which question? 🤔
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@Yamako Chan oh haha. It's like a pop quiz, you'll never know when!
@ishikakori272
@ishikakori272 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy the ones for merch 😭😭 I wanted those
@maryannielittle5588
@maryannielittle5588 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice is not over bearing and soothing unlike Mr Baller (who has rapidly become too difficult to watch) you actually tell the details without going into tiny little details that may or may not be true. Basically it feel informative without going overboard
@AdamGrandt
@AdamGrandt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this
@RB-eb9mr
@RB-eb9mr 4 жыл бұрын
Wow very educational! I wish we covered this side of history in school.
@NancyvanD
@NancyvanD 3 жыл бұрын
Man...these poor girls. One can't even begin to imagine what that must have been like. Personal stories from that era are often heartbreaking and appalling. Like those of the comfort girls. When I saw a video on them, I nearly cried my eyes out. Or even my own grandmother. Her first husband was put against the wall during the first years of the war. Leaving her widowed with a baby. Then, her youngest brother was deported for being in the resistance. No one ever heard from him again and no one knows what really happened. I mean we can guess of course, but still. His friend, who was also in the resistance, hid in my grandma's chimney for 2 years. That friend, became my grandfather.
@riaalto9488
@riaalto9488 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this.
@ccwhatup5928
@ccwhatup5928 3 жыл бұрын
my grandpa was in Okinawa at that time, and was young. My mom had told me that he had to walk for about 5 days, basically for a long time so he can be safe in a cave.
@shubhraagrawal7552
@shubhraagrawal7552 4 жыл бұрын
Hi , I love your videos , it is thanks to you that I learned so much about Japan 😊 ! I hope that world war 3 does not start and anything like this does not happen again ...
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm glad you like the vids!
@shubhraagrawal7552
@shubhraagrawal7552 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy you’re welcome 😊
@balthiersgirl2658
@balthiersgirl2658 4 жыл бұрын
No need to when ww3comes just bend over and kiss your bottom goodbye that what my dad taught me lol
@bungiecrimes7247
@bungiecrimes7247 3 жыл бұрын
Something worse happened
@teagreen9647
@teagreen9647 4 жыл бұрын
This is modern considering all your other videos. I like it
@YourFunkiness
@YourFunkiness 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I can't say I enjoyed it, but it was important for me to hear.
@mathiaslaron3372
@mathiaslaron3372 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you for the very important history you shared in this video. I am extremely unaware of what took place on the eastern front and, while deeply saddening to know, I am glad you shared such an important story.
@janaisayama6926
@janaisayama6926 3 жыл бұрын
In Germany we don't learn much about war at 1945 outside of Europe expect that it happened and some major effects. Your video once again made me realize that indeed was a WORLD War... Great Video! Keep us up, even with this heavy themes.
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note: the Battle of Okinawa lasted even after Nazi Germany's defeat. There's a rather iconic photo of rain-drenched American soldiers huddled by a radio and listening to news of Germany's surrender, meanwhile they had to fight on for another 1.5 months in hellish conditions.
@ScandiNinja
@ScandiNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Watched this with my fam. Its shocking and you did really good. We would all like to see more. 🐈
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Aww you watch with the family? :D
@ScandiNinja
@ScandiNinja 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy yes My sis's but My Mother is just as big a fan as I 😊. My Mother and I love to watch about japan. And your videos were one of the few i constantly watched on the hospital, truely you made My time better 😊 and Removed some mins of pain as I focused on your videos. That and cooking videos LOL. I love what your doing keep it up pls 😀you derserve just as many fans as only in Japan. My Mother wants me to say she loves how you talk about politics and history, and thinks your worth supporting.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScandiNinja I'm glad it made the hospital stay a little better. If you don't mind, what were you in the hospital for? You might have already said and I've forgotten 😅
@ScandiNinja
@ScandiNinja 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy i did tell you while i was hospitalized. But here is the full version: first My appendix bursted due to a very sudden infection, then they Also found cancer in My intestine while removing the appendix, so about 2 months after the first operation i had to go through a 2nd one for cancer plus Ct scanning, ect. A doctor told me, i would not have turned 30 unless Removed, i lost alot of blood after the operation and I was shiting alot of blood plus fainting, and they had to keep giving me blood, so they feared they had to reoperate on me, but it stopped bleeding after a week. Now in the summer i AM going to be checked if it is all gone. But I feel so much more energitic. i think i AM much better. Due to the cancer causeing me to have to leave the last course i needed to enter animation, i was devistated and lost. But I found a kind of bording school of arts for people around 18 and they would very much like people who needs a kickstart in life after such a Thing as cancer and help then into art school like the animation school. Infact i AM going to start tomorrow, so tonight is family night here. 😉 Keep smiling lin 🎉 and happy New year & Best wishes. Edited: due to MY AUTOCORRECTOR is BEING A BICH
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScandiNinja oh yes I do remember now. Thanks for going into more detail. Good luck, I really hope the cancer is gone. And congrats getting into the new school, I'm sure you'll do great, from a fellow artist to another :)
@anthonyramirez257
@anthonyramirez257 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos
@adrianblania5565
@adrianblania5565 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video!
@huldrrrr9486
@huldrrrr9486 4 жыл бұрын
Damn the part about the Japanese soldiers kicking them out and the American soldiers shooting them... Stuff like that kills some of my faith in humanity (All the more kudos for the teachers and people like the american who gave a girl water tho)
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
American veterans sometimes open up enough to describe trying to talk people out and having to hear detonations from inside a cave or trying to shout at people to stop tossing their kids down a cliff. A lot of them are starting to learn how imperial troops behave after the first island operations, but as they close on the home islands they find more and more civilian labourers and settlers. Imperial officers and troops will shoot people who surrender. And as they mention, a lot of the civilians genuinely believe the US Marines will torture babies.
@MultiKbarry
@MultiKbarry 2 жыл бұрын
I can several reasons why the American opened fire. It wasn’t uncommon for Japanese civilians and soldiers to fake a surrender to get close before pulling the pin on a grenade. A school girl with a hand grenade is just as dangerous as an adult.
@dingo23451
@dingo23451 4 жыл бұрын
Now my stomach stings, good video, upvoted.
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I read their words while researching and they were heartbreaking.
@possumbly8045
@possumbly8045 3 жыл бұрын
always learning something from you ♥️
@ultramarinewaters9325
@ultramarinewaters9325 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video!
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you liked it =)
@MarineAtlas
@MarineAtlas 4 жыл бұрын
This is really a great episod, you should make more of the this topic. Like always, you do a great job!
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
:D 👍
@beckc101ify
@beckc101ify 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please make a video on the Himeyuri testimonies. As dark as this video was, it's still very much a part of history!
@kittiecandy747
@kittiecandy747 8 ай бұрын
that was super interesting, thank you for sharing dude.
@Davey-Boyd
@Davey-Boyd Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about this. Thank you Linfamy. Those poor innocent girls. I would like to visit their memorial one day, to pay my respects.
@DatBoi141
@DatBoi141 4 жыл бұрын
Linfamy:talks about something serious Me:trying to say something funny for him to like my comment
@Linfamy
@Linfamy 4 жыл бұрын
How about I like it anyways ;)
@DatBoi141
@DatBoi141 4 жыл бұрын
@@Linfamy that's illegal
@UtahGmaw99
@UtahGmaw99 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing funny about this. But good video.
@dallasdelay3468
@dallasdelay3468 4 жыл бұрын
He managed to get some levity in there, if you cant laugh you will surely be driven mad by the world.
@DatBoi141
@DatBoi141 4 жыл бұрын
@@dallasdelay3468 um what?
@MrKIMBO345
@MrKIMBO345 4 жыл бұрын
That is great video about side history of Imperial Japan. Mostly, the Allied side of WW2 is often used.
@halfbakedblake
@halfbakedblake 3 жыл бұрын
Realllllly enjoyed this. MOAR PLEASE
@PlayerHeader
@PlayerHeader 2 жыл бұрын
i am fr crying right now war is cruel and should never happen again
@michaelcallisto
@michaelcallisto 2 жыл бұрын
I visited Okinawa a few weeks ago and saw the high school and museum! It was super interesting reading the girls' diaries about the horrors they saw.
@janinepantonial2815
@janinepantonial2815 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I cried on the part where they kill themselves out of mercy, it just felt.. Sad
@DakotaofRaptors
@DakotaofRaptors 3 жыл бұрын
Okinawa was a slaughterhouse. While the war in Europe was over; for those in the Pacific, it was far from it.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
US veterans sometimes open up enough to be interviewed about their side of it. Bringing up a translator to some cave, trying to convince them with a loudspeaker to surrender only to hear something detonate inside. They start to encounter more and more civilian labourers on the islands, both japanese and forced labour from other parts of the Co-Prosperity Sphere or local slave labour. A bunch of koreans have few reasons to do anything but give up at first opportunity but japanese civilians are entirely convinced that the US Marines will torture babies. Or you get no choice, there's a squad of imperial troops with you in the cave and they're convinced you need to die heroically along with them.
@Spam97
@Spam97 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive story . Thanks for sharing it with us
@Kevin_Theadore1
@Kevin_Theadore1 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus those photos broke me that's heart breaking
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