The Jazz Jennings Situation is Horrible | A Detransitioners Thoughts |

[@jeanieolahful]

When I taught three year olds, the boys would get mad when we told them they couldn’t get babies in their bellies. We though they were adorable, not trans.

[@dreamerqueennotunderthemachine]

good point lol.

[@PrimordialChaos07]

Men pretty much respond the same way

[@Craphithefan]

Why 3 years old are even bothered with adult stuff??? Let a child be a child. People like you causing the confusion. 3 year olds! If you would be “teaching” my child about issues that she have no capacity to understand simply because of her developmental age and stage, I would report you! That’s outrageous! Let the children stay children as long as possible and stop trashing their brains with “babies in the bellies”. Unbelievable!

[@freedomlover622]

@@Craphithefan I agree, but who would you report it to?

[@KoNekoInverse]

@@Craphithefan knowing about pregnancy for 3 years old it's NORMAL, many have their mother pregnant with a second baby around that age, and as kids they are curious about it. I'm one of that mothers, and I don't think it was bad that I told the truth about having a baby in my belly to my daughter. What was I supposed to say? that I ate too much and in some months somebody would leave a baby at our door? even if the child's mother is not pregnant, there is high possibility that at least one of their classroom friends has a pregnant mother or a new born baby, the topic arises and they talk about pregnancy, which is something beautiful. You're making it sound as if they were talking about sex, when that's not the topic at all

[@tiffanyw3425]

Her mom said that Jazz, at 18 months, said "when is the good fairy going to change my p*nis to a v*gina? I'm sorry, I find it impossible to believe that an 18 month old said that.

[@bubullibooooo9928]

Yeah no way a baby knows what a vagina is unless they're taught....

[@hunterprice3320]

Yah as a guy I didn't even know what a vagina was until I was in my teens

[@love2sing20101]

Lol they aren’t thinking/caring about that wth?!?! I sadly know two families that wanted the opposite gender so badly and they coerced their kid to become the other gender in order to get attention and love. They are both separate families of my close friends. My friends used to be more liberal than me too and now they have reconsidered their thoughts on things. It’s so very sad that they are doing this to their innocent babies. Our government doesn’t even help them anymore. All I can do is pray for them from afar and try my best to turn things around legally for the future. BTW growing up I was always religious and conservative and had all sorts of friends gay etc. and they knew my stances on things and they were just like oh ok. It doesn’t mean we hate you or wish you I’ll. We love you very much.

[@johnniebeavers4003]

I don't believe she said that. not at 18 months old

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

Not to mention the sentence articulation being so advanced at the age of 18 months let alone 7 years old. WTF

[@queenofzenk]

I kind of wonder if Jazz's situation could be some sort of Munchausen by proxy where the parent gets all of this attention because they've got a special child. I agree that the mother's behavior appears extremely toxic. it gave me the major ick almost reminds me of Eugenia Cooney's mom, but that's of course a completely different situation traumatizing their child to get attention while simultaneously making them completely dependent on them for whatever weird emotional bullshit they've been pulling

[@insightbytes2136]

That's exactly what it is!!!

[@dottiscamprunamuck2830]

I've had that same thought.

[@sarahbear715]

We’re calling it Trans-hausen by Proxy!! 🏆➡️@shapeshifter

[@hildyboo]

absolutely!Jazz's mom gets to be a 'saint", without Jazz transitioning she would just be a frumpy helicopter parent. With the transition she is Rich, Famous and get's virtue points.

[@susanhaynes2539]

I agree 100%!

[@yasminx5192]

This reminds me of a case from the 60s where a male baby had a botched circumcision and his parents decided to medically transition him into a girl and raise him as such without telling him the truth. He found out as a teen and immediately detransitioned because he was always unhappy as a girl. Unfortunately, he later committed suicide as an adult. It is an experiment conducted by Dr. Money if anybody wants to look it up. Very tragic if Jazz secretly feels the same way...

[@brianaguilar8283]

John Money was a predator

[@gdtestqueen]

That was the classic case that started so much of the gender issues. People still use the John/Joan experiment to prove that gender is fluid…despite the horrific outcome and the multiple issues regarding it. They seem to have bypassed all the literature and reports about how terrible the study was done and how results were falsified and corrupted.

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

David Reimer was the boy. Very sad story, and now they are doing it to kids en masse, even though the first experiment (David Reimer) failed miserably.

[@sherylF5610]

Dr Money?

[@thecoldglassofwatershow]

David Reimer

[@flying_butter1548]

The worst part is that jazz doesn't even know what is like to be boy beacuse she had't got an opportunity to grow up as one. She just knows deep down in her soul she misses something that she cannot even describe.

[@DorianPaige00]

I'm sure she pulled her hair back and tried and various points because that's all you need to do until about 11 or 12. You are jealous because someone got to pick which puberty they went through and you didn't. Sucks to be you; deal with it!

[@benjaminjones5029]

It's a form of grief

[@DorianPaige00]

@@benjaminjones5029 That's your assertion. Maybe you are preoccupied with transgender issues because you want to transition. See, assertions aren't very nice nor accurate or maybe they are.

[@benjaminjones5029]

@@DorianPaige00 Not sure why you have got your knickers in a twist. Presumably you are attempting to offend me by questioning my sexuality and identity. I acknowledge your hostility and malice. I assert this person is suffering grief for the experience of childhood that was stolen from them by their munchasen by proxy evil attention seeking mother. Feel free to be offended because older and wiser people than you don't share your warped values and opinions. Feel free to try to use that to personally attack me and question my sexuality. Feel free to make yourself look foolish. Have a wonderful day. 👍

[@kygal]

​@@DorianPaige00Your comment makes zero sense.

[@viquiben4919]

I'm a biological woman and have a voice like yours due to years of heavy smoking. People around you get used to it and that doesn't take femininity from you.

[@sandypandy9161]

Same here...I am 48 year old life long pot smoker and have a very deep voice for a woman--no one mistakes me for a man...just a hippy mom

[@EvenGodsDie]

​@@sandypandy9161either people are mistaking you for a man and they just don't tell you, or your voice is deeper than average, but not masculine. I immediately thought the KZbinr was a guy dressed as a girl. And even after the explanation, I still can't bring myself to believe that it's not a guy pretending to be a girl, pretending he used to pretend he was a guy.

[@jdago001]

😊9😊😅

[@AnnaMarie66]

Same. I’ve been called sir over the phone many time lol

[@shannonstevens2476]

I commented before I saw this but my comment was that it's what's known as a "butterscotch" voice and I kind of take pride in mine 😁

[@catgirl6803]

Someone needs to rescue her. She is a grown adult trapped with that woman. Regardless if she wants to detransition or not, she needs the space to discover who she is and who she wants to be- gender or otherwise. Her mom is up her butt. This is going to be a movement similar to how we freed Britney Spears.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Yeah so true. These TV star kids are usually horribly abused. Reminds me of Jeanette McCurdy.

[@catgirl6803]

@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 I'm a little too old for her generation so I'm not familar. But Jinger and Jill Duggar are also great examples. Both have escaped their cult following parents. Many people don't realize how abusive Lindsay Lohan's family was or MacCaulay Culkin's was either. They just want to judge them.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

@@catgirl6803 oh yeah. I remember Macauley divorcing his parents. He got royally screwed up. Like so many. Lindsay too. And Amanda Bynes. Just... most kid stars.

[@dawnhunter2558]

I hated how her mom cut her off and squashed her.

[@VisenyaAtoms]

He wants to be a he, but doesn't even know what that means because his mother has been feeding him trans ideology since he was 2 years old. It's pure child abuse and people need to start calling it as it is. He obviously doesn't feel right as a girl and he never even had the opportunity to be his male-self.

[@MuzikFreak161]

I hate how Jazz’s mom just gaslights her into shutting up about her feelings because it means she’s just “focusing on herself”. How dare she not want to bottle her feelings up anymore and vent to her own mother.

[@elm3329]

Y ahora que acabo de ver el video, me doy cuenta de que ese tío es un despojo; pero es que lo tuyo no es con ese tío, es con todo el mundo; tú tan sólo te escudas detrás de éste.

[@christineguerriero5187]

Her mother is a sick woman. I can't imagine a mother doing this to her child!

[@jamieholliday8122]

Yes we should ask for help when we need it and I’m going to sound like a dick but my spinal cord was crushed and my voice is destroyed FOREVER and I have never asked for help with that. You’re situation is even more different you chose your situation and it sounds cruel but I’m trying to keep it real. You chose to take hormones and a result of that is your voice got destroyed we all make decisions we regret that we have to live with I don’t agree asking for people to pay for a mistake you made. Do I think you should look down on yourself over it or dwell, NO but I don’t agree with what others are telling you.

[@CurtisCameron]

Who needs enemies when you have a mother like Jazz’s mom.

[@WeRNthisToGetHer]

If Jazz Jennings goes Gypsy Rose Blanchard I wouldn't blame her one bit.

[@lauraforconi9111]

TRUE

[@eugenetswong]

I hate the way that his mom is acting as a therapist. I assume that she has no licensing or training. In general, this isn't so bad, when the help is small and not extreme, but his mom is off the rails.

[@jodibbmoli9319]

I think people around a person so immature and shady like u is worst than having a mom who supports u no matter what 🤡🤡🤡

[@emojellyace8]

Her mom is a big hypocrite for letting her son transition on an early age and not letting her drink alcohol at 18 years of age

[@donnakobayashi5587]

When Jazz's mom says: "I understand; I've been there".... everything in my counseling background stands up and says NO

[@katelynnwoods]

And she always tells Jazz “you’re your own worst enemy.” Her momster is the enemy.

[@donnakobayashi5587]

@@katelynnwoods 100%

[@maya613]

Jazz's mom is the ultimate stage mom--what she wants is the celebrity status and who cares about the reality of her daughter's breakdown and confusion.

[@lisamendez5051]

Not a girl in the first place! Born a boy ...why do people forget that part

[@maya613]

@@lisamendez5051 I didn't assume that this "person" had decided to use that pronoun, so I palyed it safe but you just can't win... Relax.

[@lisamendez5051]

@@maya613 didnt mean direct toward you personally but if we gonna help this dude he gotta understand he was born male fact cannot be denied

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

Son

[@Kizsaip]

I just "love" how his mother's response to "I'm just all in my head"... "you're your own worst enemy"... Yeah, no. YOU evil mom are his worst enemy.

[@lynxielynxchannel]

Oh honey, I'm a FTMTF detransitioner too, I know it's hard, but please don't get VFS. I know it's hard now, but it could take away your ability to speak at all! I love your voice, you sound like a woman with a pleasant texture to your voice. It's okay that your voice is different.

[@dorothyann100]

Be careful with any surgery on your vocal chords. Hope you do not have any damage from it. And besides, some men like a deep voice in a woman. The famous actress from my parent’s generation. Lauren Bacall, was known for her deep sexy voice.

[@jessicah4462]

I agree! Messing with the chords can go wrong very fast. I have a paralyzed vocal cord from a botched routine procedure. Had a doc offer to try and fix it, but decided against it because he told me it could leave me with no voice at all vs the very raspy one I’m dealing with now. I love her voice. Personally, I think her voice has softened a tiny bit since I found her a year ago. Imo, if she worked with a vocal coach she might be able to soften it to a more comfortable level. Her voice hits my ear as in a natural range for a woman, just a woman with a deeper voice, which do exist. I understand the comments, I get them, too. Not about being trans, but people will laugh at my voice, tell me to speak up, things like that. Going thru the pandemic sounding sick was a real treat! 😂 But, I am a huge smartass and give it right back to people. The majority of people are very kind and “hope I feel better soon”, lol. As long as she is well versed in risks vs positives, has managed expectations, researches the surgeon I’d donate to her gfm to get corrective surgery. Everything I have gone thru with doctors, my best advice is to avoid them at all costs.

[@lindajohnson9282]

Absolutely. It was medical intervention that got you into this situation in the first place - because it’s all experimental - and the surgery to try and correct it is equally as experimental. Not only are you not guaranteed of the desired results, you may be left of worse than you are now, and with more life-long complications. I can’t tell you what to do, but I do hope you sincerely contemplate the pros and cons. If people make you feel like shit because of your voice, make them feel shit instead… tell them that you’ve had surgery for throat cancer, or something… no scars because it was all done via your mouth lol. Watch them shrivel! 😂❤

[@CF.]

I think she sounds feminine. Lots of biological women have naturally lower sounding voices. Can’t she also do some vocal training to adjust her voice a bit?

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Oh no please stick with this voice honey! 😢 vocal surgery is risky! U sound great and have made a lot of progress. I honestly don't think u sound masculine at all.

[@SaltiB]

When her mom said she would wake her up in the middle of the night and say, “Take this and dialate or I will do it for you!” My jaw smashed into the floor so fast. That sounds so traumatic to me. I really feel for this kid. She is in a crappy position and has to figure it all out with pressure from the public. I just wish she could have her privacy to figure it all out on her own without people pulling her in either direction. It’s so sad.

[@brendaburdette5355]

Sounded very close to lot like rape to me

[@trashcameraguy999]

also, how is it okay for a woman to publicly threaten to "rape" her son/daughter on t.v. and then act like she is on the high road? Answer: if it is on the altar of wokeism or transism, anything goes.

[@queenofzenk]

@@brendaburdette5355 i agree it sounds like assault

[@rastafahrer]

It is an open wound......it closes up if you do not dialate........

[@lauriediorio574]

Talk about sexually abusing your child! My Lord!

[@StellaRaeVon]

I used to want to be a boy SO BAD when I was a kid and it went on for years but that went away when I hit puberty. I was the only girl in the neighborhood growing up surrounded by boys and I fit in but I was always a girl and they were boys. They could pee standing up and I couldn't (but I certainly tried!). I'm so glad I was born in the 80s!!!

[@tameraa.7976]

I can remember when I was 12 wishing I was born a boy every time my visitor came. I had very debilitating periods & knew only females have them. They also didn't have to spend time getting dolled up every day. I thank God I wasn't born in this era.

[@lauragrueninger6048]

I was also a "tomboy" as a child, but puberty changed everything. All kids should be required to go through puberty before any decision is made.

[@Becalavelle]

I was raised by my father from a baby, I remember one day as a toddler I peed standing up (probably just getting potty trained and thought that was how it was done) Thank God my dad didn’t butcher me and ruin my life! I feel so sorry for Jazz

[@nancy95988]

I hear you on this. I also was a big time Tomboy. I was born in 1960 THANK GOD 🙏🙏🙏 If anybody would have taken away my future womanhood, Motherhood😮 I would be Sooo Angry 😡 bitter etc… I am ever forever GRATEFUL I wasn’t born in today’s society 🙏🙏🙏

[@justme8837]

I have 2 gay children who were born in the 80's and I am so happy that there wasn't internet or any of this craziness that could have brainwashed them into making horrible decisions.

[@aldreyandreiko3514]

I was under the same impression, the mom was trying to suppress Jazz’s feelings, like “Don’t think about it”

[@z.s.r.h]

jazz's situation almost reminds me of a Gypsy Rose type deal. her mom no doubt knew how much attention she'd get, and how much money.

[@ginger5872]

Yes!

[@Grizzlox]

I met Gypsy rose and her mom and boyfriend... learning everything that happened later was a real trip

[@nekomimi5861]

I was thinking that too!

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Her mom is awful

[@aquarius1986]

Yep, both moms have Munchausen by Proxy.

[@gallienus172]

There's a special place in hell waiting for Jazz's mom. At this point no matter what Jazz decides is best for herself she is going to have an incredibly hard life ahead of her.

[@Tread1775]

I don’t watch the show. The clips, over the years, makes me think she has never had competent psychological therapy. She has been pushed along by her parents and the show. I believe she’s mentally breaking. ✌️

[@mightytaiger3000]

you can help by stopping going along with the delusion and call HIM what HE is.

[@LisMarWay]

Amen

[@TheObserver3]

Yeah fuck freedom of choice' people should be just like your magnificent self' how in the land of the free are these people allowed to make decisions that effect their own lives? What a sick world we live in where superior people such as yourself can't decide how other human beings should live?

[@patriciaoudart1508]

@@mightytaiger3000 you add delusion to delusion, going that way. You put her in a corridor and close all doors. Good or evil?, Ask God🙏🤔🤗

[@hildyboo]

Jazz's mom would rather have a dead daughter then a live son.

[@PedroTawa]

Jazz mother unfortunately listened to the wrong doctors, the medical industry will gladly take your money. Never forget that…

[@ConstructionHoney]

​@@PedroTawa she was coaching her kid way before these doctors got involved. Her mother has munchausen by proxy.....

[@aloo333]

​@@PedroTawa this - especially during the time that jazz started transitioning - it was at the height of the *trans youth suicide panic* narrative that doctors and counselors were pushing. In earlier episodes especially, you hear the mother, and other mothers, going on and on about how afraid they were for their kids. They seem genuinely convinced that they'd consented to "life saving" practices. I feel awful for all of them, the whole family, and especially jazz - I hope she finds peace

[@damarisbb4526]

When I was child, I never, never know about any child suicidal for be homosexual or because they wanted to be a different sex. See the real numbers, the medicine has many research about suicidal on adults or children. 60’s 70, 80, 90, 2000… we never had that before.

[@DChatc]

.. Misandry. She hates men so much that even the idea of a son pisses her off. This is an evil woman for sure.. She hates her son for being male, and frankly even if Jazz was indisputably sure they where trans, she'd still resent her and see her as little more than a cash cow who can't bring her grandchildren..

[@lifeislife489]

Poor Jazz. None of this is her fault. I pray she finds peace in her life.

[@user-ld7uj9pv8e]

He, his

[@Cotictimmy]

This KZbinr is Admirable. I admire her spirt and manner of expressing herself. I notice that JJ is 22 years old but still quite childlike, whereas Salty is very mature & self-aware in her outlook and in her thoughtful & analytical approach to her own history and also the predicaments of JJ & JJ's mother.

[@oliverhug3]

Jazz is childlike because the alledged adults in the room robbed him his puberty with blockers.

[@angelamarie7614]

I followed Jazz’s show cause I genuinely liked her and related to her as a person. Now that I’m older I see how hurt she must be and I just hope she finds peace someday

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

I have this thing about time... I am autistic and I just experience time weird. I kept thinking Jazz was the happy little girl I saw. And to learn *his* mom is basically milking him for money to be on TLC and seeing the misery in those eyes I realized Jazz was not a success story but a horror story. Children need to be protected from transition and exploitation! Was Jazz ever trans? Or was that brainwashing and mutilation? My guess is the latter. 😕

[@dinkydotzero]

he

[@SieMiezekatze]

Same i was a kid when i saw her , I have no idea what happened to her and i feel bad for her now

[@greentre2277]

@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 I didn't realize they were on Barbara Walters before TLC. The whole story is super sad and this poor human is mutilated for life and a cash cow for big pharma

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

@@greentre2277 yeah it is messed up. 🤕 Jazz is a cash cow for TLC too, and his horrible parents.

[@lishlash3749]

I'm a boomer trans woman who's had two voice surgeries and can offer some advice. It's important to distinguish between two separate aspects of your voice: vocal cord pitch versus throat resonance. Most trans women start with both masculine pitch and masculine resonance. Your case is different, as you have masculine vocal pitch combined with feminine throat resonance, which is much easier to improve. It is far more difficult to feminize your throat resonance than to feminize your vocal pitch. The first voice surgery I had was a hyoid suspension, where the hyoid bone is surgically lifted in order raise the throat resonance closer to the female range. This was partially effective in feminizing the tone of my voice, but did nothing to change its pitch. I think it's unlikely you would get much benefit from this approach. My second surgery was a laser vocal cord thickness reduction. This was quite effective in raising my pitch range from baritone to alto, and it also eliminated tha falsetto range of my voice. However, that limited my highest pitch to the top of the alto range, as I cannot now speak in the soprano range at all. The results have been not entirely passable as female, but much better than the baritone voice I had before. Both of these surgeries were inexpensive, less than $5000 circa fifteen years ago. I considered more invasive vocal cord shortening surgeries, but they were far more expensive and risky than the route I chose. OTOH, I have heard examples of excellent results from more recent surgical approaches. The main issue I hear in your voice is that you tend to speak in the tenor pitch range, lower than the alto range which most women use and which I now find comfortable. If you were able to raise your pitch into the alto range, I suspect your voice would sound naturally female.

[@bobroberts8500]

This is remarkably informative

[@jenniferdagostino5744]

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[@mightytaiger3000]

there are no "transwomen" just confused men.

[@MoschinoAmore]

@@mightytaiger3000 An unhelpful, counterproductive response to a thoughtful and helpful comment.

[@HeroInTheSun]

@@mightytaiger3000confused 😄

[@shoppertattoo]

I’m genuinely surprised they even aired Jazz showing regret seeing as most detransitioners are shut down and shadowbanned. Jazz’s mom is beyond evil and deserves to be jailed for child abuse. And the dad too for not stepping in and stopping this insanity.

[@possumfriend2335]

They don't frame it as regret, they blame Jazz's "mental issues" like depression and anxiety which they never admit started right after having him put on Lupron at age 11. 😒

[@mimita1157]

With much compassion for Jazz, I must say his mother has dammed her to a twilight zone in which he is neither male nor female and is totally lost. His mother will, someday, have to answer for her evil deeds!

[@syv2319]

Ongoing speech therapy and vocal coaching could be a cheaper sustainable option prior to committing to such an extreme surgery on your vocal chords. I really hope you you get to the place you want with yourself x

[@Becalavelle]

Yeah I just worried if the surgery could be dangerous for her

[@mostlypeacefulgaydy6396]

The mother has a serious case of Transchausen by proxy. She's admitted she wanted a girl. And put Jazz into the trans pipeline before he was even 7y.o. She paraded Jazz on the news, barely out of toddler hood. Then put Jazz into the spotlight for her own clout. Showing her off like the latest Louis Vuitton bag. The poor kid never had a chance. It makes me so sad. 😢

[@ennuiblue4295]

She already had a daughter, the oldest

[@FabbInRedd]

@@ennuiblue4295 i took a doubletake on the transchausen :D thought i read wrong

[@brianaguilar8283]

Which is odd because she already had a daughter

[@theharshtruthoutthere]

@@brianaguilar8283 Hormones change looks, - we all can see that when we meet "trans" people. Gender shall be NEVER changed. Yes it is tried, bones shall be shaved off, cut off. Bone implants shall be placed where it is needed. Singers, actors, politics - practise it, “transing” themselves into the image of baphomet, who is trans, being both male and female in one body. Baphomet = lucifer in disguise. It is not just for males, going under a knife and getting their penis and balls cut off.. placing them into life long treatment for the lack of hormones in their bodies. You are not and never will be women nor female, you`ll always remain male with broken body. The same with females. Just because vagina is "locked up" or even taken out, turns you into no man, your not man nor male. You are FEMALE with broken body. The GENDER IS NEVER CHANGEABLE - biologically proofs it and souls who de - trans themselves. You all better search all out from the evil and sick death cult FREEMASONRY, for because of them and their sick and evil beliefs, you all go and gut off your body parts under the title of "being trans". Being gay is the same wrong as being trans. Masons pushed this lie on all of us, the ignorant and foolish population or useless eaters, as they, masons call us. Search out all about them (masons) and their cult: freemasonry and expose them. List of famous singers and actors who are “trans”: lady gaga = male Justin Bieber = female H. Bieber = male Ariane Grande = male Amanda Siegfried = male Chloe Sevigny = male Jayne Mansfield = male Natalie Wood = male Grace Kelly = male Eddie Van Halen = female Charlize Theron = male Katy Perry = male Kanye West = female Mariah Carey = male Brad Pitt = female Kylie Jenner = male Elvis Presley = female The list goes on and on and on. Before going and supporting any topic, make sure you know, where it origin.

[@byronrush9802]

​@@brianaguilar8283 how to tell parents to chemically castrate their children and make them pay for it or sell their child for transition clout

[@bryanezambrana8885]

I love the background, your hair, I love all of the colors. You look beautiful. Don't worry about you asking for help. Your community is going to help you & we don't mind. For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I'm not alone, the ones who have been with you for a while, we don't mind your voice, it's a nice voice & we don't notice it anymore until you bring it up. You'll get your vocal surgery sooner than you think.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

I son's even notice it after she brings it up. I love her voice. 😭

[@smithcook1]

I think your voice sounds feminine like a female smoker. Your voice has softened and become more feminine with time. I like you. You are intelligent, honest, and interesting. You are beautiful, too. Your fans think you are fine. But you are not concerned about "us." You are very honest about being "misgendered" by other people whenever you speak, and that bothers you. There was a film, "Tootsie" where Dustin Hoffman played a male actor playing a female. I think he took speech lessons to make himself sound more female. He does have a deep masculine voice. And he didn't get surgery. And he did sound fairly feminine. So while you're waiting to be able to afford surgery, you might be able to improve even without surgery.

[@dorothyann100]

Her mother is totally trying to shut her daughter up and invalidate her daughter’s feelings.

[@ginger5872]

Because she wants the money and fame.

[@szinyk]

yeah, it's painful to watch. especially when the mom says "i know, you're your own worst enemy." WHAT? no, the mother is the worst enemy.

[@patricksmith407]

When the world has sold you a science belief it’s hard to loose faith in that system. Look at the MRNA experiment. Many parents are facing this irreversible choice for their children

[@ThestorytellerofKatunga]

Jazz is a son. Not a daughter

[@stephaniecouture7033]

Her son. She will never be her daughter no matter what happens to her no matter how badly she wants her to be a female.

[@Good.Luxe.Charms]

If my 5 year old said to me, "When is the fairy gonna make my penis into a vagina," I would be way more concerned with the fact that my 5 year old knows those words and what they mean. Honestly, no one will ever convince me that a small child actually said that, let alone knew what it meant.

[@maursyf16]

She supposedly said in at 2, so even more concerning. That's if Jazz even said it, which I highly doubt.

[@justme8837]

I agree, these parents are mentally ill. They have their own messed up brain and are using their children to fill some void or give them purpose or whatever. This is so scary.

[@graysmith1233]

A 5 year old should know those terms, incase they need to report abuse.

[@Good.Luxe.Charms]

@graysmith1233 You know what, you are absolutely right. In my experience, small children say things like pp, privates, etc. So to hear a 2-year-old say penis and vagina would be a bit of a shock for me, especially in this context.

[@patricekanagy5898]

Supposedly Jazz was two or three years when he said that. Which made me question everything.

[@sjg5994]

You hit the nail on the head about the mom. Her pride is at stake. She does NOT want to go down as being wrong. So the next step, if Jazz wants to revert back, will be the mom placing guilt on Jazz saying "but I did what you wanted!" The entire situation is disgustingly sad.😢

[@DorianPaige00]

But Jazz does not want to revert back. Newsflash!

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@DorianPaige00how do you know?

[@DorianPaige00]

@@brianaguilar8283 Because Jazz discussed it when she took on critical comments. It's on her channel.

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@DorianPaige00 so? That could just be damage control

[@DorianPaige00]

@@brianaguilar8283 If you don't believe people at their word and believe in conspiracy theories, I'd recommend Alex Jones.

[@luciad5988]

Jazz’s family have zero boundaries! I’ve never seen anything like it. She was such a nice kid. She is clearly unhappy in her skin now. The dramatic weight gain says so much 😢

[@DorianPaige00]

No, half of the people today are obese.

[@spinrash6000]

The mom needs to buy foods that is healthy. Jazz is in a bad place mentally it’s concerning who is her Psychiatrist

[@milliewoo337]

Narcissistic mother. Wraps the family into the warped dynamic. I started crying watching some episodes for the first time last night bc I got flashbacks to my own narcissistic family upbringing. It feels impossible to escape even as an adult- even more so for Jazz bc she is the family’s meal ticket, they’re making so much money off her horrible experience

[@wzbailey]

Jazz hasn’t had the opportunity or ability to live his own life.

[@katie29baj]

​@@spinrash6000 I saw an interview with Jazz saying she gained the weight while away at college and developed an ED. Claims meds are part of the reason, which I've seen medications cause significant 100+ lbs/year or less, weight gain. She also said her mother has belittled her for the weight gain. So this is one time that the Mom can't be faulted for her grocery list. Although I'm sure many other things can be connected back to Mom.

[@camilaxcastillo]

The mother hearing a 5 year old say he feels like a girl: “ALWAYS AFFIRM AND BELIEVE YOUR CHILD!!!” Same mother after her child has undergone massive invasive surgeries , mental health breakdowns and stress induced overeating: “NO JAZZ, DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT PART OF YOU THAT IS SAYING YOU FEEL WRONG , REMEMBER:YOU ARE YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY…”😡 What a horrific double standard !!!

[@amyshehi4731]

What a mind f##k.

[@NickyM_0]

So true!

[@ashleys1308]

Right why couldn’t she support jazz in both directions?

[@1goofeygirl]

Sympathetic to Jazz’s world, tell me how a five year old boy/male child knows what a girl feels like?

[@camilaxcastillo]

It blows my mind how Jazz’s words at 5 years old held more weight than her words now as a grown adult that is CLEARLY IN ANGUISH and asking for help and NOW the mother chooses to NOT SEE THIS and gaslights her child into thinking there is something wrong with Jazz. I can only hope one day Jazz wakes up and realizes what a terrible mistake this entire journey was and seeks REAL HELP from real licensed psychologists to guide her to a path of acceptance and healing . This story is one of the most horrific cases of ch*** ab*** I have ever seen documented on camera like if it were entertainment. I have no words.

[@nogoodnameleft]

We are so lucky that you became an influencer. You are a natural talent in storytelling. It is obviously not pre-written content which makes you so popular.

[@wishingb5859]

I started tearing up listening to your story. Sweetheart, keep sharing because your “voice” is not just a sound, your true voice is what you have to say to the world and you have the ability to save millions of young people.

[@Nosteponsneksss]

It’s like her mom talks over her so Jazz can’t sort out her feelings. I think her mom is paranoid by her child’s feelings because Jazz could end up saying “I think this was a mistake”

[@justme8837]

She needs to get away from her/his mom, now.

[@jeremiahsmith4876]

I peep that

[@nickolasjones9212]

As a Combat Vet with PTSD, asking for help is the hardest thing in the world to do...

[@dianedo1234]

Dear Sir, I am so sorry about your PTSD(C) it is horrid I can't imagine.

[@shannonjustice7395]

Thank you for your service. I was there brother.

[@erinmack8918]

Thank you for your service. I’m so sorry that you suffer because of it. I hope that now that you’ve admitted the issue that you’re getting the proper help. As the daughter of a Vet I know the VA can really suck balls sometimes. God Bless you and watch over you.

[@hollandhoney]

I think it’s one of the easiest things to do, especially if you love yourself enough…♥️🙏🏼

[@matti721]

Thank you

[@ivonnemontijo8461]

You are the first voice of reason I have heard regarding Jazz and brave enough to call the mother out. I literally was told I hate kids because I don’t think minors should be transitioning because they are gender non- conforming.

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Oh check out Amala from Unapologetic! She speaks out against it. She's a former liberal. As am i BTW. Liberals have been brainwashed. We need to stand up for kids.

[@JenAmazed42]

There are a few others. Check out Buck Angel and Blaire White

[@Lovinvallarta]

@@JenAmazed42and Ex Aisle

[@szinyk]

trans kids are like vegan cats.

[@maddart4445]

It’s opposite world because your opinion actually protects children.

[@justlistenandhearmeout7631]

HOW DOES THE MOTHER KNOW WHAT "HE" IS GOING THROUGH? SHE HAS NOT BEEN THROUGH WHAT "THEY" PUT JAZZ THROUGH...MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIM

[@spookyvegan1402]

I don’t even remember being 5yrs old…. I can’t imagine my parents deciding to transition me to another gender at that age.. 😢I feel very sorry for Jazz.. Something very cryptic is happening in that family

[@saltedbleach4512]

That varies from people. I remember being 3-5 years old, lots of crazy memories

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

I remember it :)

[@DocBree13]

My daughter’s best friend told me repeatedly, when they were in grade school, that he wished he could be a girl, and always wanted to wear her dresses and play with her Barbies. He’s now a happy, well-adjusted gay man.

[@VuDuGrrrrl8075]

❤

[@pattydella4]

Oh my gosh--you totally nailed it with the mom. She is terrified about Jazz's doubts. What a horrifying realization it would be!!! Also, another commenter suggested a voice coach. Maybe you should look into that. There were a couple of moments during this video when I heard just a hint of what your voice probably used to sound like. Perhaps a vocal coach could help train you to access that register.

[@thegatesofdawn...1386]

Jazz is very hurt. She feels confused because she is now maybe aware that this was perhaps wrong for her. And she is being told she's just being her own worse enemy. Sadly, going back will never be truly back to what she was born to be. All the while, she is suffering physically as well. I wish her the very best. She may feel controlled and not feel safe to express her hurt and anger.. This is a very difficult situation. I feel sad for her.

[@sogo5976]

When a mother goes into a doctors office with her son and says: “Please cut off my son's arm, he says, he doesn't identify with it.” The mothers´ sanity would be questioned. As the doctor, you don't just cut off the arm, if there is no medical reason to amputate. It is unethical for the parent to make a medical decision for their child such as making them infertile, but the doctors shouldn´t allow or go through with it, either. What this story shows us is that some parents see their children as an extension of themselves and think they can do whatever they want with them. In the mentioned example it would be child abuse and should be reported, the doctor should lose their license - not the other way around as it is currently going on. Responsibility instead of cashing out of someone's misery. Thank you for sharing your story, it is really important for people to hear.

[@rosenars6665]

Broke my heart when jazz said” I can’t get out of my head, it doesn’t stop. “ I can’t help but shed a tear with her. She’s been telling her psycho of mom for years! But she dismisses it. We all know now that Jeanette has been using Jazz’s transition for her own benefit. They need family therapy big time and by an unbiased professional.

[@lisamendez5051]

Not a girl !....he is experiencing boy mindset fighting inside him

[@Horzzo]

I dislike the reality thing as I feel it's exploitation, but her entire situation feels criminal on the parents account. You were the first person I thought of when I heard about it.

[@beadlejuice7565]

I am not trans but I have always had a raspy less than feminine voice lol and it’s very distinguishable when ppl hear me out somewhere they know it’s me … you are beautiful and your voice does not and will never define who you truly are!I have mad respect for you girl!!! Keep speaking the truth espec about young children transitioning and possibly making a big mistake and never being able to go back!!!

[@CornerstoneMinistry316]

Sorry you're going through this. We need stories like yours to come to light to show kids what transition can do to them

[@thirtynine3955]

Jazz doesn't feel like himself because he wa never been allowed to be himself. Mom made sure that Jazz thought of himself as a girl from the very beginning.

[@ambereyedbabygirl]

So proud of you opening up about this. You're beautiful and many women have deep voices and get falsely "clocked" too it's bs Also there is vocal coaching and conditioning you could try if you haven't

[@aquamarinemintakangoddess9073]

My heart breaks for Jazz, I feel of she doesn't get the help she genuinely needs. She is going to take her life in the neat future. Her mother rather have dead daughter than alive son 💔

[@violetsvision4561]

I imagine Jazz COULD NEVER feel like she could tell her mother that she wants to be a boy again, even if she wanted to. Imagine what her mother would do!

[@victoryluck]

My guess ... is that Jazz already told her mom that she wants to be a boy ... but they edited that scene to remove her words ... the show wants to make money ... the mom doesnt want to lose that money ... and, I am sure that the mom tells Jazz, how can you be a boy when you now have breasts and a vagina and look female in every way, so just dilate and stop thinking about it.

[@victoryluck]

It may not be "proof" that Jazz now wants to be a boy -- but Jazz is now dating women and calling herself a lesbian -- that sounds to me like the biological straight boy inside of Jazz is crying.

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@victoryluck and it’s very normal for some young boys to have that phase of liking girly things like Barbie and makeup before they grow out of it

[@NickyRikki]

@@victoryluck exactly.... He is probably a straight boy and can't enjoy girls he likes. Lesbians have a totally different experience and they orgasm more than straight couples because of clitoral sensation based on studies. Jazz will never be able to please anyone or be pleased. His is a eunuch and ruined.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

TLC needs to be shut down.

[@KimFromSystemRaven]

I'm surprised that doctors are not seeing the damaged caused by this type of surgery at such a young age. Maybe it's new for gender transition, but they've been doing surgery on intersex kids for quite a long time. I've heard stories about parents doing forced dilation, and even though they knew their parents meant well, they still felt violated in a way that was hard to cope with even in adulthood. I'm so glad you are speaking out about this.

[@kimberly8164]

I think the best thing jazz could do is get together with a group of detransitioners and sit and talk to them and they all can share how they feel and their experience then she would know if she relates to that or not. I bet that would help her a lot

[@dangoodson2634]

i think you have a great voice. i would imagine you'd do great as a voice actor if you wanted to. just based on the pitch and timbre i would bet you could do damn near anything

[@ronmorey3475]

I was about to say the same thing! The little Russian accent at the beginning wasn't bad either!

[@NoProHarrie]

I would suggest that it isn't about having a nice or a bad voice. The voice change was because Ryan was transitioning. So the voice will be part of that persona which Ryan found out wasn't her. So now to be constantly reminded of that part of her life by her voice would be quite painfull. As she says she gets asked if she's trans now, where even when she was transitioning no one seemed to. So even though I can agree that there's something nice about her voice, it's not about it being nice. :)

[@kathleenwindasgoodwin9165]

You have a great voice. You should be doing voice overs.

[@kathleencastle8631]

Get real, if you were a man, would you want a woman who sounded like that

[@dangoodson2634]

@@kathleencastle8631 is anyone arguing with you? or are you just yelling into the ether like everyone else?

[@biljam972]

I had a little cousin who liked to dress up as a girl all the time. Parents just let him grow up as he is and now he is an actor and obviously considers himself a man. So, be careful with children, they can say things from various reasons. Performing irreversible surgeries on child based on something child has SAID is a criminal act and it can destroy child's life forever.

[@ghostfields]

This kinda reminds me of the David Reimer case. I hope she is happy with her transition. She never even experienced a puberty so I’m not sure how she could ever be happy if she does regret it. Poor jazz.

[@LisMarWay]

My thoughts exactly

[@daddysgirl102938]

I doubt she will ever even know If she regrets it. She never loved as a boy/teenage boy/man she has absolutely no idea what there is to even miss....it's so sad.

[@trot_on]

Sadly, she is miserable and has no idea what she identifies as...I really feel so bad for Jazz. She will never have a "normal" sex life, she can`t orgasm and her botched surgeries must have caused so much pain and trauma. I was horrified to hear her surgeon say that they know kids who don`t go through puberty will never be able to orgasm but they happily prescribed hormone blockers and then butchered her regardless! Watching a clip of one of her surgeries where the surgeons were arguing over what to cut or not cut was seriously disturbing. I`d jail the surgeons and her parents!!

[@moma-b]

@@daddysgirl102938 This is less bad imo. There are those who experienced sex as a man then decided for SRS then regretted it, and now they can never get their genitals back.

[@mandielou]

She's trying to articulate to her mom that she's never felt right and what she can't say is, it's because she doesn't even remember being a boy, she was too young to remember what it felt like. Her mom says you want to feel like the "old jazz", the old jazz just after surgery or the old jazz before surgery? I suspect her mom is talking about the old jazz after surgery. She's trying to articulate that she's NEVER felt right since she remembers.

[@Heavennsent]

I feel so bad for her she always talked abt finding comfort in eating cuz she was always so depressed sad that her family judges instead of helping

[@darkestgray0]

The conversation between Jazz and her mom was incriminating. I'm glad it aired because now we have a better idea of what might really be going on, and it ain't pretty. Feel so bad for Jazz and hope whatever she decides leads her to peace - and far away from that mom from hell.

[@DocBree13]

My heart goes out to Jazz - I’ve felt horrible for her for a long time. hope you are able to have VCA, if that’s what you ultimately choose. I personally think your voice is beautiful and it reminds me of Lauren Bacall’s, but it’s not about me - it’s about you being happy, comfortable, and unselfconscious in your own body. ❤

[@CosmicChaiLatte]

21:05 Jazz as a toddler probably saw their sister's private parts and was questioning their mom why the sister didn't have what they had and if that was going to happen to them and the mom just ran with it.

[@JucelinaVTSantos]

Jazz was an experiment subject thanks to her mother!

[@paigeosborne4013]

Ryan, I am a MtF transsexual and watched your first detransition video when I was determining if I wanted to transition. I appreciate your perspective and your honest thoughts on the flawed rhetoric of the mainstream transgender community. I fully support you, keep up the amazing content girl 💗

[@jessevanhalen6967]

You're not going to get there!

[@paigeosborne4013]

@@jessevanhalen6967 ?

[@jvblackwater]

Wtf. At 5 I wanted to be a boy, a dinosaur, and Xena Warrior Princess. I didn't even know what it meant to be a boy besides that they had more interesting toys and weren't lectured on how to be meek and modest. How on earth can someone take such words from a small kid seriously. I think Jazz' mom just uses it as an excuse for what she did and continues to do to her child. And poor Jazz... It's devastating to hear he never feels like himself. And that dilation thing... What agony.

[@kdscraftcorner]

I'm an adult woman forced into early menopause due to cancer treatments and I have to dilate or I might atrophy. As miserable and uncomfortable as dilating is, I would imagine her mom doing it for her would create a true gender dysphoria and probably hurt like hell if not actually hurt something. How scary and horrible! I was the same as Jazz as a child. I hated all things girlie from a very young age. I was a tomboy, I would rather play football with the boys than barbie with the girls. Then puberty hit early, I had precocious puberty before they had named it. I hated the body I was in. I hated how it changed how boys reacted to me. I hated being the curiosity for both boys and girls in school. BUT I grew out of it, and after a few years other girls started becoming the curiosity. I had thoughts as a kid that boys had it better and why couldn't I have been a boy. If I were a child today I would be told I was trans and should be boy. It would have been a lie. My parents would not have allowed it, thankfully. And thank goodness for not having to grow up right now in this messed up clown world.

[@leppysleppert3843]

Umm her mother doing it would b assault btw. Like imagine a mother telling a biological young girl to stick a dild0 in her vag or the mother will do it for her. Twisted

[@Disabled-adventures]

I’m a straight dude through and through and I can tell you are a female. It’s in your nose, your teeth, your cheek bones, your feminine shoulders, and I can tell you are natural. The voice isn’t a deal breaker.

[@DeeRio9546]

In the thumbnail she's very feminine but actually watching her the face is very Manish especially in the jawline

[@Disabled-adventures]

@@DeeRio9546 im not talking about jazz the boy. im talking about the content creator of the video we watched who is a female. she once tried to become a transman. or if thats what you ment i dont see it at all.

[@Becalavelle]

Yeah she’s still a 10, total package

[@koholohan3478]

@@DeeRio9546 are you talking about Jazz? She literally didn't enter a male puberty lol. Also, do realize that up to 10% of cisgender women have PCOS? I know a lady with it, and she's literally a model.

[@Hannah-y2z]

Vocal feminisation surgery comes with so many risks. It can severely limit the volume of your voice and stop you from being able to sing. These may be risks that are worth it since having a low voice is lowering your quality of life. I have a friend who sounds like she is always whispering and it has been years since she got it.😭😭😭😭 I'm so sorry you are going through this

[@ohhadivist]

I have heard people talking about the Jazz clip but I hadn't seen it until now. My heart really breaks for her, I have felt mental anguish like that. I want her to be okay, and I hope that happens soon and she can more or less put these dark days behind her.

[@carolray9156]

I hope she doesn't off herself.

[@l.tc.5032]

I'm neither trans nor detrans, but I really relate to how you described living with yourself after making a major bad decision. A few years ago I decided to pass on a stable (though according to me boring) office job and instead take a 1 year contract to work overseas as an English teacher. Needless to say it was a bad choice. Although there were some good elements to it like the friendships I made and group trips we got to take, the negatives outweighed the positives. I ended up stuck living with not one, but two abusive roommates, a crappy job where I wasn't respected, and getting robbed at gunpoint to name a few things. For awhile I tried to rationalize it away, thinking about those positive elements, but eventually I just had to cut my losses and I left. It's hard to deal with your bad choices but it's ok to admit you made a mistake and if you can reverse it even if only partially, there's no shame in it.

[@bethshoaf]

I agree! Poor jazz was breaking down and her mother just can’t let her get it out of her system. If jazz takes her life mom will live with that for the rest of hers. Jazz is living in the public eye and will have no one to talk to because her mom won’t leave her alone with anyone to vent to. I get a feeling jazz is on a short leash.

[@hc1897]

Jazz's case is specially tricky because she has zero experience of living socially (or internally for that matter) as a male. Her journey started so early that the "boy" option was removed from her and she has absolutely zero reference as to what it is and what it takes to be a boy / young man. To be honest, detransitioning is probably gonna cause MORE problems because then being a woman is off the table, being a man is a complete unknown, and she is cast adrift. Best case is that she finds her feet and sticks with being a woman. Second best case, figuring out a for-her-alone point along the male/female spectrum - but that would mean she's unique, which must be incredibly scary and isolating ... Oh I don't know, I can't imagine how this would all end.

[@marybrett3149]

Perhaps Jazz is non binary?

[@caselynng7497]

I can’t even imagine trying to talk to my mom about very important feelings and her just shut them down like that.. the one that’s supposed to comfort her the most. It’s so brutal. I feel for her so much. She is going to need serious healing from just a gaslighting mom alone.

[@erbro]

Hi Ms Salty, I agree with you 99% of what you say. The 1% is I only know you with this voice. I really really love it. I have supported your gofundme, in the end, what makes you happy is most important to me. But please reconsider. When people see me at work, they think I'm a sexless nerd, when they see me at a motorcycle event, they think I am a destructive hooligan. In reality I am just a gentle old man. Please don't let other people's perception of you cause you to make life descisions. You are incredibly beautiful, if that were to matter to you. But incredibly wise, and that always matters.

[@aslbinky]

Jazz's mom actually started transitioning Jazz at age 3, not 5 (I'm pretty sure about that). The mom already had 2 sons before Jazz was born & something happened during Jazz's birth, which left mom sterile, so she she knew that she could never have the daughter she so desperately wanted. So what does she do? She creates that daughter she wanted by transitioning Jazz! This whole situation is 💯 percent the mom's idea..... & her fault. Now, don't take me as trans hater, or some kind of nut. I have a trans son myself, but when he decided that this was the path he wanted to take, he was 22 years old & already living on his own. I had a difficult time adjusting to the change, but I've never seen him happier than he is now. Back to Jazz....I totally agree that what the mom did was the worst act of child abuse I've ever heard of. She should go to jail! The dad is completely worthless too. He just agrees with whatever his wife (mom) says just to keep peace. Jazz is 22-23 years old now, & trained for nothing because mom pulled her out of school & supposedly "home-schooled" her (yeah, right! Jazz has the reading level of a 6th grader!). She should have moved out & lived on her own, gotten a job, & learned how to be self-sufficient. Both of her brothers have moved out, gotten jobs, gotten apartments, & have become productive members of society. But her mom has treated her like a baby for SOOOO long, Jazz acts like one now! I don’t know what the future holds for Jazz, but it looks pretty bleak to me.

[@erinmack8918]

I’m a mom of five kids ages 12-18. My 14 year old daughter went through a phase where she thought she was non binary. I put a stop to that quick AF. I absolutely 100% blame social media in particular Tik Tok for this sudden MASSIVE burst of kids claiming they are trans. It was the internet that influenced my daughter and she did come around and see that. It took me explaining to her many more times than once or twice that every woman has days where they don’t feel feminine. A lot of girls aren’t super fem and are tomboys it doesn’t mean that they are gender less or the wrong gender. I believe she was nervous about her puberty and influenced by confused older kids online. Once her figure started to develop she fell in love with her feminine body and that was that. I understand it’s not like that for some but that some is a MUCH MUCH smaller percentage than what we are seeing these days.

[@paupautube1]

I applaud your actions. Your daughter is so lucky to have you. ❤

[@paradigmshift55]

I'm so happy you are doing this for yourself. I just donated. Keep reminding your viewers. You'll get there sooner than you think.

[@binhtran3294]

Love your hair and makeup! 🔥 Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this! I’ve been watching Jazz’s show for years.

[@sarawinterling9907]

You have a great voice! I'm a straight woman, always have been, & my voice sounds like yours ❤️ I feel you!

[@aliceinwonderland1120]

Deep compassion for people who have gone through so much cosmetic surgery and cross hormones that they don’t feel like themselves, at some deep level. Thanks for your videos.

[@AshleySpeaks4U]

What creeps me out the most is that a 5-year-old knew the word vagina. Then he keeps talking about being excited to get a vagina. Sexually wrong. Ick.

[@energistlisak]

Hey, Important notice, (I noticed) When you laugh lightly your voice goes right back to feminine I feel like voice training might help you. Your voice definitely goes to the feminine range frequently, I know many mtf voice train with success, I can hear your natural voice above the deep sound. It's still clearly there. Until you get your surgery, maybe try to train It is very strong and present. Jmho.

[@MelanieMaguire]

DO NOT get any more surgery. Please. I used to be a vocal coach and there are endless ways of lightening your voice. First of all you're are speaking on your throat - very close to what is known as "vocal fry", you'd do better to go to a good voice coach first. Surgery is butchery. These surgeons pretend they can do more than they actually can, they also don't report their failures. I understand you feel you need to do something. Please use any money you have to visit a voice specialist FIRST, before you go under the knife. It's in their interest to persuade you to have surgery. They are making obscene amounts of money. Please let the experience of Jaz Jennings be your guide. Mind you, you need a voice specialist/coach who is GOOD, experienced, qualified, etc. Best of luck to you...💜

[@-miekeb-]

I hope Jazz will have enough good souls around him/her to be able to find him/herself and live with that!

[@rickfortine7454]

I get the impression that the mother is doing everything she can to keep from being responsible for the whole thing ... When she should be !

[@Impassion]

Your eye makeup looks really nice. I feel like I haven't seen a lot of looks where the winged black eyeliner is such a big part of the lid coverage. I like it a lot.

[@Music_Lover26]

There are gorgeous, sultry actresses from the Golden Age of Hollywood who smoked and yelled to deepen their speaking voices because they thought it sounded more attractive. If people look startled or react when you speak they may just be reacting to something a little different than what they are used to. You are fine just as you are, good luck! 🌟 I hope it works out for Jazz. Your observations are from experience and are likely what is going on with her situation. Glad I found your channel. You are very articulate and have courage. 👏🌹💓

[@fluffymcdeath]

Don't do any surgeries. They cost a bunch of money and they can go wrong and when they go wrong they can go really wrong. Lots of women have naturally husky voices. It used to be no big deal or even sexy and nobody would assume you were trans. Now that trans trans trans is everywhere I guess you'll run into more people making that assumption but that's just a way in which trans theology has messed with everyone's minds ... but this social madness will pass.

[@lindalambert8727]

Her mother is Jazz’s worst enemy!

[@thecoldglassofwatershow]

💯

[@macunaima81]

While everyone is talking about the mother I am thinking about the team of medical and mental health professionals who allowed it and were actually the ones who went through with the surgeries on a 5 yo.

[@ArtistCreek]

Ots my understanding jazz' aunt (her moms sister) is some kind of therapist...and is heavily involved with the ideology that transitioning kids is positive and prevents issues later...... That did not age well.

[@ReeCrowsFray]

As someone who has a mother w Munchausens now, and previously had by Proxy (when my siblings and I were minors) Jazz’s mother very much seems like it’s a self serving “act of love”. I don’t want to say for sure or even pretend I can diagnose, but this is extremely triggering and throwing alarm as everywhere from my own personal experience. This mother is exhibiting tons of personal and selfish reasons for pushing this. I’ve watched every episode and it’s incredible how much everyone in tha family just falls in line to the mother. They all have no fight to give their own opinions. They’re zombie like when she is around. Is seems like the mother might be someone pretty harsh behind the cameras and they all learned to just agree with no feedback. It’s very much the dynamic of my family. Until I became a teenager and had to become the mother figure, as my mother finally got her own illness that she lives for. I became mom to my young siblings and did everything a parents is supposed to do, except make the money. I was given the financials by my step father (who stayed in Vegas for a handful of years for a major casino Reno job) and paid the bills, kept the home running, everyone fed, school registrations, meetings, ex activities, therapy for them and myself and tending to my mom just enough to keep her off our backs. I get that same feeling from the family, in accordance to how they feel/act towards the mother. They do just enough to keep her happy and themselves out of her line of fire. So happy I found this channel and I hope you’re able to thrive through every part of your life, in the way the makes your soul fly high 💜💜💜🌻🌻🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@BLANKU2]

This poor kid binge eats now to eat the emotions also the family puts this kid through all of this but then mocks and degrades them for gaining weight. It seems to me the binge eating is the only thing Jazz can control in their life when their body is pumped with estrogen. This kid never even had a chance to get to know or even like who they were or who they could become. So much of trans seems like a trend to become to fit in for kids nowadays. I feel the sense of betrayal Jazz might feel at some point soon will be explosive on "Why did you do this to me? Why did you allow this to happen to me?" Jazz is sort of left with no sexuality and cannot have natural children also. I don't know how a person wraps their mind around ANYTHING Jazz has lived through.

[@marisolrodriguez2475]

Jazz’s mom is a Monster!!!

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

Anyone who "transitions" their *CHILD* is a child abuser and you cannot change my mind about that. It's abuse. Pure and simple. A *CHILD* cannot consent.

[@patricialangley7943]

This was an AMAZING breakdown of the situation. You are the first person I've heard mention Jazz' mom saying "I understand. I've been there" I caught that the first time I saw that clip, and it has stick in my craw ever since! You're sooo right! She ABSOLUTELY does NOT understand! She has NEVER "been there"! And the only reason her child is there and going thru this, is because when her SON was a baby, he likes and did normal age appropriate play that SHE thought was tooo girly. And by the time her SON was 2 years old, she had made up her mind that having a transgender child and getting HERSELF rich and famous for being a "cool and understanding mom was better (at any and all costs to her SON 's mental health) than ha ing a gay son!

[@jsam-bv6jb]

You are not the first woman with a deep voice. You do what you are comfortable with.

[@dawnhunter2558]

my lady friend has a deep, husky voice. she used to get teased about it & everything. even so, her resonance (the deep part) still sounded female and her pitch is female. interesting, I never thought of those parts separate before

[@nadinebraun7541]

Your voice sounds a bit like Miley Cyrus. You are beautiful from the inside out!

[@timetravelhomestead]

As a woman with a deep voice, when I was in my 20s I hated it. I think it is one of those things you grow into. In my 40s, I like it.

[@1603holly]

I have seen a few videos on the voice surgeries, mostly by FTM. There is a real risk of developing swallowing disorders, that get worse over the lifespan. Sounds minor, but it is not really. You are fixating on it now, but surgeries go wrong. Do real research, not just satisfied customer testimonials. You might get a new voice, but it won't be the same. I mean would you be OK if you could only ever whisper? Having lifelong laryngitis? There is no rush...

[@lunakat7020]

This is true I heard this surgery can be very risky.

[@phil4986]

Her voice is feminine and beautiful. In the real world, there are many women with deep voices.

[@lunakat7020]

@@phil4986 I totally agree Ryan has a sultry beautiful voice I would never change it. My voice is deep growing up everyone thought I was my brother when I answered the phone. I got so used to it I just went along lol.

[@phil4986]

@@lunakat7020 I very much agree. And good on you for having a sense of humor about the 'mistakers.'

[@BreeAnnaMarie]

I commend you for speaking on this, you are a beautiful woman and your voice doesn't matter. I'll never pretend to understand what you have gone through but I'm so happy you found your way. As for Jazz, her Mother is definitely the problem! It's truly heartbreaking watching this.

[@chelseapoet3664]

Jazz's life must he almost intolerable. Sexual function ruined, entire life sold for public consumption by your parents....I hope she can leave the cult, by which I mean not just gender ideology but her family and the reality show. I hope she will indeed be fine but I'm not hopeful.

[@serenalang7391]

You have a really nice 'Betty Davis' voice quality. A voice coach could help teach you to develop range and timber. Many people would love to have your melody. There's no cracking or screeching. Stay strong girl❤

[@SuZ4242]

Have you considered a voice coach? I had a deeper voice during puberty, and a teacher in the theater department at my high school helped me train myself to up the timber, if you will 😊 I'm like Julie Andrews in Victor/Victoria. My voice still gets deeper when I get pissed off, lol. But, it did help. Takes practice and persistence. Best of luck, whichever way you decide to finally go ❤