The JENOLAN Dyson Sphere | Star Trek Online Story Series E44

[@salenstormwing]

"They're so STRONG! We're Weak!" And this is why my ship counselor is instructed to slap all "shellshocked" individuals till their personalities improve or they change into their Undine form. I'm sure it worked for Kirk.

[@nineballmk2]

hell it worked for captain bright in gundam also!

[@roundbrick4890]

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

[@MrMikellsof88]

I like to think that as part of the "joint" research into the Solonae Dyson Sphere, all three factions had a prototype ship in the works ... just that the one that was completed first was the one aligned with the player's chosen race.

[@Kitsula]

I'm ok with the Voth changes since their militaristic posture is kind of explained by them claiming the Dyson Spheres as their property since they are extremely ancient and in the Delta Quadrant - therefore their ancestors must have built them since the Doctrine says they were the first species there and they were the only ones who could have built them. To the Voth the Spheres are their own lost relics and here come a bunch of interlopers infesting them and making bases on their spheres. In the end the Voth are seeing this as an invasion onto their space and relics by us so trying to blow us off them by force makes sense. The genetic dinosaurs with lasers strapped to their heads are ok by me since rule of cool/fun in the game. I really love the Voth though my one problem with them is their origins in Hadrosauridae/Parasaurolophus - not the smartest dinosaurs by a long shot. Better bet would have been the Troodons who were developing folded brains and other indicators of higher intelligence. The Star Trek novel "First Frontier" by Diane Carey & James I. Kirkland uses this concept with "Clan Ru" who are Troodon descendants who escaped the K-T Extinction and left Earth (and kind of want it back and hatch a scheme using Time Travel to stop the asteroid impact which devastated Earth). There is also a long history of Dinosauroids descended from Troodon in fiction/specuation such as Aritsune Toyota's Dinosauroid novels, Carl Sagan's Dragons of Eden, and Dale Russel's Dinosauroid thought experiment/model of an evolved Troodon. Going back to First Frontier, I kind of hope a splinter faction of Voth decide to accept the Distant Origin Theory and make a play to reclaim their ancient homeworld from the upstarts.

[@barrybend7189]

If I do set up a Star Trek Adventures campaign I will make a Voth leader of a splinter group who wants to join the federation. He will be purple and his federation codename would be Barney.

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

USS Gold probaly attracts alot of Ferengi.

[@attila535]

Not really, gold is almost worthless to the ferengi. Gold pressed latinum however.

[@radeadcool]

@@attila535 latinum is where all the wealth is. Re-watch "Who morns for morn!"

[@thomasachee463]

Ridiculous idea, Hu-man

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

Kill'em all!!

[@LeahBouley]

I remember quark calling gold “useless” I feel they’d prefer to attack a ship called profit or acquisition rather gold 😂

[@danielseelye6005]

After seeing Commander Jarok of the Romulan Republic, it reminded me of the episode from TNG with the defector Admiral Jarok leaving a letter for his daughter after his suicide. I wonder if they mention it in STO to close part of her storyline. It would be nice.

[@HitodamaKyrie]

She mentions him. How her father wanted a better world for them and such. How he was branded a traitor and she was constantly watched by the Tal Shiar. Joined up with the Republic a soon as she learned of it.

[@cytorakdemon]

@@HitodamaKyrie it's little details like that that makes me love this game.

[@tba113]

I guess we'd better start running checks on all those other escape-pod rescuees from the Fluidic Space raid, huh?

[@MercuryKnight5]

Tethys was also the sea that existed between the island that would become the Indian Subcontinent and mainland Asia before they collided. Shells and fossils from the Sea of Tethys can be found high in the Himalayas. *adjusts glasses*

[@fingerboxes]

I can just imagine that debriefing. Hale: "So....funny story, you remember when we went to fluidic space? Where the species of shape shifting people who call themselves strong and us weak live? Well, while we were there, I found Dr. Cooper, and he had suddenly forgotten everything about his previous crew. Also, he kept talking about how the Undine were strong and humans were weak. I let him board my ship and took him home. So anyway, it turns out that at some point--almost certainly definitely a long time after I picked him up in fluidic space--he was replaced by an Undine! I'm sure we can all agree that that was a totally unforeseeable event that no one could have predicted and that I don't need to be reprimanded in any way."

[@phrophetsamgames]

I love how Mark Hale is a Kirk-like captain who wants to sleep with women. I hate how the game doesn;t let you play like that, giving some characters the option for romance.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Question: how do you get navigational data from _inside_ the Dyson sphere? I would expect that its outer hull (probably an alloy of Adamantium and Unobtainium or some such) is rather difficult to look through.

[@Vanilla0729]

Good question.

[@IdendonuffinWong]

Probably neutonium, like the planet killer in the original series.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

@@IdendonuffinWong It can be made of Nosuchthingium for all I care, my point is that it should be pretty difficult to scan the stars through.

[@HitodamaKyrie]

I wondered the same thing. I guess they just pressed the 'm' key and saw they were in the delta quadrant.

[@barrybend7189]

They probably accessed some surface nav data from the sphere itself to figure out where they are as they do have a navigation and astrogation system.

[@huntrovherobrin]

As someone who cannot play ST:O, thank you for continuing the series. Regardless of how accurate Star Trek lore is portrayed, I quite enjoy seeing ST:O's story unfold.

[@Iceflkn]

Such a shame the Romulan isn't responding to your considerably charm! 😉

[@fingerboxes]

*gasp* The character who inexplicably appeared in fluidic space and immediately started calling humans weak, followed by huge personality changes, was secretly Species 8472? Who could have seen that coming!?

[@Pokemc0831]

Oh gosh, this battle definitely defines "there is no up in space" very disorienting

[@legacyoftheancientsC64c]

The automatic subtitle AI is having a really (hilariously) hard time recognizing Trek jargon/names. Example 7:21 "salami served the iconians" and in other videos T'Met is written as tomato, etc. :D

[@nobodyyouknow1065]

Hey, they finally remembered that plot device which should have changed galactic politics forever 😄 After 27 some odd years.... 🤨

[@japzone]

Seriously don't get why a freaking Dyson sphere wasn't a bigger deal than one TNG episode....

[@WesStacey]

Not to mention that the last time that shape-shifting aliens started infiltrating Alpha quadrant powers, the various powers nearly tore themselves apart through fear. Granted that one of the big three powers was essentially wiped out several years prior and the remaining two were at war with each other already, so not exactly sure how the Undine could destabilize things much further but still the lack of reaction this time around was conspicuously absent considering what happened with the changelings in DS9.

[@DrewLSsix]

That's nothing new to Trek.

[@dashfatbastard]

@@japzone TNG didn't do as much serialized storytelling as they did with DS9, or with ongoing storylines, as Voyager did with Borg, Kazon, and the Undine. As you remember, in the episode "Relics", the Dyson sphere, a scientific idea well worthy of much more study, was only the episode's Maguffin. The sphere played second fiddle to a much more momentous event to TOS fans...Montgomery Scott's arrival in the 24th Century.

[@barrybend7189]

@@japzone also I think it's only been more recent that ships were able to re-enter the Jenolan sphere as that one had an over active Star that even taxed the Enterprise D.

[@theatheistpaladin]

Undine have been established as shapeshifting abilities. So I am clueless on why no screening attempts are not standard yet, especially when they are aggressive.

[@Eucep]

Depends if blood tests are good enough. With Changelings it works, but Undine seem almost superior there. Though it is suggested that transporters could find it out earlier (back with Soketh), but Cooper Undine freely used them.

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

What if the Undine infiltrate the construction if the screening tech, so it doesn't work?~

[@vegeta002]

@@Eucep Actually, blood tests don't work on Changelings. It was a pretty big plot point on DS9 that blood tests consistently failed to root out Changelings. The fact that a Changeling impersonated a member of the KDF for as long as the fake Martok did just underscores how worthless those tests really were.

[@calamitysi]

Rik, your STO story vids are my favorite ones on KZbin! Thanks for another great one!

[@morindilhrivanar]

10:51 errr i think you got something slightly wrong here ^^ in german 'Nix' means nothing i think you may have ment 'Nixe' (a sort of merfolk creature) ?

[@richardtrue2758]

Funny thing is that the Voth are dinosaurs from Earth crazy love that episode and makes you think of the possiblies

[@abraveastronaut]

8:04 You're not Cooper! You're one of the Fluidic Space Creatures on a Rampage... 2!

[@cytorakdemon]

God, the perspective in this sphere throws me off so bad. I lose focus for a second and suddenly I feel the urge to pull my ship out of a nose dive.

[@x23sagittarius37]

great video as always.great explanation about cooper. looking forward to next video

[@alexanderbirch4026]

This is a fantastic series and I wonder if the real Cooper is still alive and what will happen in the conference and what will happen with the Undine Cooper

[@andrewgilbertson5672]

@8:18 - Yeah, saw that coming since the fluidic space mission...

[@cadengrace5466]

Tuvok, having been under mental control and influence would not be allowed to maintain command once it was known he had been compromised. He would have to be removed from all duties until he was given a full medical clearance.

[@TonksMoriarty]

I saw that Cooper Twist from a mile away!

[@azraelbatosi]

I don’t like the Klingons, they never learn, you’d think after what happened with the Dominion, they’d realize the strength of an alliance, but noooo, then with the Undine, they don’t talk to anyone, they start a war then yell about “infiltrators” and start boarding other peoples’ ships. Every time, every damn time, they gotta have their asses handed to them before they’re willing to listen, and then they just sort of forget afterwards. Klingon ship captain “We respect you noble warriors, and noble combat, and it was an honor to fight alongside you honorable Starfleet warriors, q’plah! Our honorable alliance with you noble warriors has seen us through a tough fight and it would be an honor to fight at your side again....now PREPARE TO DIE!”

[@mcintoshpc]

I actually guessed that dr. Cooper was an undine back in the fluidic space mission, but after he didnt reveal himself in that mission I gave it up

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Since the Dyson Sphere missions were released before the Borg missions were rebuilt to include Tuvok and Cooper, those of us who came to the game earlier unfortunately had that "surprise" a bit spoiled for us.

[@adamwilder2943]

I remember this storyline mission, as well as the gameplay you did within it, including your commentary too Rick sir.👍👮‍♂️

[@BrokenEyes00]

That kingdom sounds like a katarl katarl from outlaw star.

[@MBF78]

Here's another question for you: Is the, um, individual that replaced Cooper the same one that replaced the Vulcan ambassador from way back? The voices sound very similar, not sure if they used the same actor for both characters, and if they did was that on purpose?

[@thomasjoychild4962]

I think the one who replaced Sokkath died when his ship got dogpiled and blown up by a federation fleet.

[@Shadow7871]

Gotta ask what's the soundtrack used at 12:44?

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Now that's what I call timing to open KZbin

[@Alren-ki]

I hate this mission so fucking much, its so Nauseating in that fight, I had to stop playing for several days after I finished it cause it made me so sick

[@justadog8248]

Great videos!

[@laahocsm0019]

Rest in peace real Cooper. You were only mildly irretating.

[@MercuryKnight5]

Um..so if the last Sphere had jumped the release of Omega Particles would've devastated the quadrant, but when this one jumped nothing happened? Did I miss something?

[@barrybend7189]

The Jenolan sphere was still operating at peak ability but in low power mode. Solenea was visibly damaged either by the Voth/ alliance conflict or some other war.

[@nay4658]

I really hated this mission, being forced into this awefull ship with the pathetic weapon loadout. I had to turn the game into easy mode just to get rid of it as quickly as i could.

[@amandamills4133]

Tuvok says to protect the alpha quadrant, but he is speaking to Klingons and Romulans which are inhabitants of the beta quadrant, so you would think that he would mention both, rather than Soli the one that the sideration generally inhibits

[@vegeta002]

It's pretty standard in Trek to lump them all in as the Alpha Quardrent powers, despite the KDF, Romulans, and part of the Federation being in the Beta Quadrent.

[@Eucep]

I personally hate this space battle part of the mission as it often goes into a buggy mode where the other ships stop helping you out. Which is very bad against the two undine dreadnaughts as they repair themselves faster then you can damage them.

[@jasonskeans3327]

Can you do more of the Romulan story

[@LamaswithHands]

Love your stuff.

[@anachronism5005]

Please do a Culture Index on the Deltans

[@jdtcskate]

Those species 8472 (Undine) super ships look like Vorlon ships.

[@john_mystery]

What would a biologically based ship like the Undiene’s need in it to have explosions run through it as depicted?

[@magnusee]

I love this

[@lastationproductions]

What class is the uss dyson i want one for myself lol

[@Tuttomenui]

I suggest Tuvak does a mind meld.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

Nicely narrated. However, I personally dropped STO years ago when the grind became unbearable to me...

[@qu1nnc]

In a universe like Trek that has time travel maguffins, can a person really be first?

[@juliankirby9880]

qu1nnc tentatively yes, because the new 1st would be recorded as the 1st, while the other previous 1st would be turned into a 2nd.

[@captainsquarters1030]

I just started playing STO a few days ago. It is fun, but a bit to heavy on combat for my view of Star Trek. I'd prefer more missions based on thought and diplomacy like the 25th Anniversary game.

[@D1craigRob]

the voices of the characters in this one are pretty low had to listen to you shouting (sounded like this with the volume i had to put it on) while the characters almost whispered lol.

[@radeadcool]

We could always all the undine one "Cire" or "Repooc"

[@JCResDoc94]

*☼ cant the voth claim earth? they were there first or whatever.*

[@M3PH11]

The battle in that mission played out slightly different to what I remember. Also today is awakening day. GLHF :) And I see you blacking out your BOFF's ;)

[@Belzediel]

... they put water on the outside of a Dyson sphere? XD fucking hell.....

[@shmee123ful]

another wensday another upload but still no zerg

[@geofftottenperthcoys9944]

Love your work, but PLEASE stop fiddling with the camera angles!

[@TurKlack]

Must admit that I'm a little annoyed, that the "Greater good" and "Working together forever" Story clichè are to prominent in STO. Neither the Republic nor the Empire would just step down and let the generous Federation dictate their every action. and while the Republic would probably not take an openly hostile posture towards the Federation, D'Tan had showed me that he is quick to take whatever advantage he can get. The Empire would probably just russle their guns at both Factions. And the Federation would make sure that the Republic understands that the Jolanae Sphere is the Federations "Property".

[@Shadow200001]

I always hated this mission

[@darianleyer5777]

BETA CONTENT CONFLICT! In the book "TNG: Dyson," the Jenolan Dyson Sphere gets shrunk to LESS THAN A PROTON'S RADIUS in DIAMETER.

[@johnassal5838]

Well maybe that's how it looked on the outside...

[@darianleyer5777]

@@johnassal5838 Maybe nothing. That IS how it looked on the outside.

[@johnassal5838]

@@darianleyer5777 Yeah, I read the book too. As in "only" on the outside. You've got two conflicting pieces of beta canon. Not only can this happen irl but it can also happen to reality itself in real life. Einstein's Relativity is entirely based on the idea that one event can look completely different to two observers in different reference frames. Tl;dr: Yeah but maybe it only looked that way from the outside.

[@darianleyer5777]

@@johnassal5838 Indeed. I'm assuming that everything in the sphere was shrunk, too.

[@johnassal5838]

@@darianleyer5777 Ok. Did they stay shrunk? Did the sphere just stay where it was between the stray electrons or did it maybe _travel_ to the Delta Quadrant "offscreen." In the book it was heavily implied it "went" someplace else aside from just getting tiny but more like interdimensional. STO also has a different SF ship and crew going with it iirc it was an intrepid full of Horta in the book.