The Jet Engine trains that weren't built for speed - TurboJet Trains

[@TrainFactGuy]

I know the music choice is bizarre, but I couldn't resist giving the story a little overdrive

[@Irobert1115HD]

whats the name of the song? or songs?

[@lonesailordee3886]

@@Irobert1115HD Overdrive by Taku Iwasaki

[@Irobert1115HD]

@@lonesailordee3886 thanks good sir.

[@aaronfield7899]

Can you talk about the only steam plane ever made?

[@naerbo19]

Could you do a video on different gauges of railways and what uses, drawbacks and advantages they possesses? I have heard that in Russia some parts of the rail network uses another gauge and as such they have 2 sets of wheels and can switch gauges mid travel at speed. I might be wrong though.

[@thepoltroon992]

I think it's facinating seeing one of these travelling at high speeds, and with those turbo-jets roaring like wild tigers. it's a brilliant piece of engineering. well done you did a great job ToT👍

[@Mike_Squires]

I think youll need to do a part three on the union pacific Turbine locomotives, because by God they tried to make this work.

[@quillmaurer6563]

That was a turbo-electric, with the turbine engine driving a generator and thus the wheels, totally different concept. But to my understanding they actually were fairly successful for a while, as long as their fuel remained cheap enough.

[@Mike_Squires]

@@quillmaurer6563 it's still a turbine/jet powered locomotive. Diesel electric and diesel mechanical locomotives are in similar categories so why not these too.

[@kkobayashi1]

@@Mike_Squires There were many turbine powered trains around that time. UAC TurboTrain was used by Amtrak and Via for a while.

[@MrMarinus18]

The TGV also was build to use turbine engine and was fully tested with them. However just before they could start service the 1973 oil crisis hit and changed those plans.

[@MonopodMan]

You should cover the Aerotrain, France's early attempts at high speed rail, for a future video

[@ThirteenMatt]

I was thinking exactly this! It would make a very interesting video.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Not to be confused with GM’s Aerotrain, with which it had practically nothing in common.

[@nether_bat]

Mustard has a great video on those

[@sableveil]

bro why we talking about Ohio when Indiana be strapping Jet Engines on trains bruh

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

The train operated in Ohio as well.

[@ceciliavaldez843]

Can't even have normal trains in India and ohio man💀

[@pixel.b123Speedruns]

Shut up🤬🤬🤬

[@Combes_]

Only in Indiana 💀

[@ashleyjiscool]

Only in Ohio 💀💀💀 and Indiana 💀💀💀

[@1_railfan]

Wow...even with a jet turbine strapped to the engine, it still lacked the power to climb steep gradients. I remember watching another video relating to the jet train a little while back and learned about a certain flaw of the engine's performance: The rushing wind effect after the engine passing is strong enough to lift several ballast rocks off the tracks and fly towards you and/or your vehicle, making them hazardous projectiles.

[@symarvel4836]

Those were some SPEEDY BOYS

[@00Zy99]

Actually, the Black Beetle was intended to test track design-more particularly, it investigated whether or not conventional American track could handle very high speeds provided the vehicle was very light. Apparently, the answer was yes. The program WAS regarded as successful from this aspect, although the subsequent Penn Central merger put an end to that line of development (not that the NYC had any funds or willingness to go much further anyways). It DID also show that a passenger-carrying vehicle would need better suspension and the like, but that wasn't part of the mission to begin with so that wasn't a problem.

[@dandel351]

They just used the wrong kind of jets...... what you really need for speed is solid rockets ... worked for the shuttle and SLS . Only huge amounts of flame at face level is more dangerous than propellers..🤣👀🚀🔥🔥🚂👍

[@marcogentile3392]

Just like Kerbal Space Program teached me: "MOAR BOOOSTARR"

[@ErickC]

In all seriousness, though, part of the problem is that they *did* use the wrong kind of engines because the right kind of engines hadn't been invented yet. You'd need engines optimized for economy and power at low altitudes and relatively low speeds - i.e. high-bypass turbofans. Getting those to fit in a reasonable loading gauge would be a trick, though!

[@skovner]

A video on the 1970's, I think, US Turbotrain would be interesting. It used the turbo engines to drive generators, not from the thrust, but were inefficient and dropped.

[@AnAppleInABox]

That end music and transition was super cool

[@MrAsianPie]

I'm upset that games like Fallout or Metro haven't made a reference to these yet.

[@thomashurd8858]

If you wanna look into another branch of "jet" powered locomotives, I'd recommend gas turbine- electric locomotives. Powered like a conventional diesel-electric but with gas turbine as a prime mover they circumvent the major downside of lack of overall tractive effort without the impressive speed of the turbo-jet locomotives, nothing they could do about the volume or relative fuel inefficiency at the time and despite Union Pacific's best efforts (along as several other experimental efforts by other countries) the 1970's oil crisis, aswell as in UP's case there use of Bunker C fuel causing more maintenance than anticipated killed them out. Having played with the design in Stormworks: Build and Rescue ( a vehicle designer ) it is worth mentioning that the relatively slow throttle response and ramp up time isn't suitable for shunting and fuel consumption at low power being relatively high compared they make best for long haul routes. It's for sure interesting to imagine what modern engineering could do with the concept

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Always interested to hear more about soviet trains.

[@WhiteJarrah]

I'm getting flashbacks of _Thomas And The Jet Engine._

[@RobSchofield]

Another classy one - great music! So when are you going to cover British/Swiss gas turbine locos (18000, 18100, APT-E)? Pretty please? 🙂

[@DKS225]

They would have been uneconomical if put into production especially with The Oil Crisis of '73 they would have been horrendously expensive to operate.

[@primrosevale1995]

Ah yes, Thomas and the Jet Engine in real life.

[@ChimpManZ1264]

And this kids is why Thomas and the Jet Engine has some fundamental flaws to how it worked in the episode 👨‍🎓

[@bocahdongo7769]

Imagine they use those LIM motor for high speed train sooner. Using lighter car to propell faster. And using dedicated track with banked turn, we can use much smaller footprint for urban transportation, imagine world would be with such kind of transportation.... . . . OH wait, is that just Premier LIM Rollercoaster?

[@lazyrrr2411]

Just Looking At It makes me feel UNEASE i'd Much Rather watch it go by than be On Board !

[@errantalgae]

ay the ER-2 series of trains, showing that when you wanted a train in the soviet union you came to the Latvians

[@PaperThinArmor]

If humanity ever finds a new way to propel themselves faster they would ofc attempt to strap it to a locomotive at some point.

[@stampycatfan01lol]

M-497 was actually built by Budd as an RDC.

[@jadonvargas2509]

If anyone wants to learn more about the New York centrals M 497 I highly recommend Amtrakguy 365 video covering this locomotive in particular.

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

In case anybody has trouble finding it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaeXqo13bZV_mrs

[@TheStickCollector]

Yes

[@ImperatorZor]

Canberra is the Capital City of Australia. In 1901 the Colonies of Australia federated into the Commonwealth of Australia and they needed a new Capital City. As such, they found a place inland and decided to build a new city more or less from the ground up. They held a contest for designs for the new city, with Chicago born architect Walter Burley Griffin winning. He was part of the Garden City movement, which sought to solve the problems of Victorian Cities with planning and Green Space, in particular green belts separating districts. Canberra is considered one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

[@barnykirashi]

God damn, I never would have guessed that a B-36 could reach 700 km/h. That's speeds that superprops could do near their max speed. Like the Spitfire F Mk.XIV and Mk.22 could reach, I think the late G and K variants of the Bf-109 could also reach, and altough only an experimental model the Kyushu J7W1 Shinden could also reach 750 km/h, something that only the P-51D could reach. (But like I said a lot of times, The P-51 is fast, and has long range, but lacks in every other aspect. Late Spits and late Bf-109s were up to the challange, if not better. And I didn't touch the Fiat G.55 and G.56 Centauro-s) The problem is that it's the '60ies. 700km/h is a max speed not cruise speed, which is around 400 km/h. Apparently that's around the max speed of the B-17, an early....pre world war 2 bomber. The B-29 had a cruise speed of 350 km/h. The main problem, is that Max speed is not the important factor for Bombers, since they fly in a formation on cruise speed, and that's when they usually get intercepted. Now, the B-36 could fly at 700, but only flew around 400, and the fighters it faced had speeds of around 1000 to 1200 km/h.

[@SantaFe19484]

Imagine being on an overpass when a jet train passes underneath you!

[@bottleandscrap7626]

3:57 looks so ancient

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

Wait, was that Joseph's theme at the end!? Based..

[@jimmypetrock]

.. nice..

[@Straswa]

Great wotk ToT!

[@tedium37]

Even jet turbine powered electric locomotives created so much heat they were prone to destroying overpasses if they sat underneath.

[@antommino6263]

YES A NEW VIDEO!!

[@Momo_Kawashima]

spinning blade: *exists* that one guy looking for a lawsuit: M H A H A H A H I H I H ! *jumps in front of it*

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Let us go 200KM around this sharp bend! What is the fastest speed commercial track is rated for in America?

[@Nundevwizer]

Propellers then jet engines. What’s next? Turbines?

[@joriss5]

Turbine-engined trains are used on regular passenger service for decades.

[@simonb6982]

Mind a take on the Deutsche Bundesbahn Class 210 and 219 having jet engines as a booster, and Class 602 as a prime mover?

[@pigeonpallz1733]

We need jet trains . Heck everything should be jet power lol

[@Scagguy4014]

Can you do a video on the GM aerotrain ?

[@DillianTrainzStudios]

I’m guessing this is the basis for Thomas & The Jet Engine.

[@MadBiker-vj5qj]

5:30 Take the jets off and the nose would look just like a Blue Pulman.

[@harrisonallen651]

Everyone wanted to go fast

[@OMHSega]

3:47

[@starzkream]

What could possibly go wrong?

[@box420]

how did you leave out the union pacific gtels

[@voltsiano116]

I have a MIGHTY NEEEEEEED

[@MainlyHuman]

Distant gas turbine locomotive noises

[@lukethegeneralelectrice60p80]

Ah yes M-497 boi is here

[@frees7528]

yea the thought doesn't sound fun..

[@ProjectFlashlight612]

Jet woooooooo

[@brenlc1412]

Maybe airplanes and trains shouldn’t mix.

[@the_steam_locomotive_chick]

Ooo

[@jimcrawford5039]

What music?

[@KingOp0ssum_II]

Hmmmmm what if we use an engine with after burner?

[@1230james]

And right after AmtrakGuy365 did a similar video. Lovely timing

[@malifebliketokyo9653]

If ironman made a train!

[@martincraw7698]

So this is where the story of Thomas and the Jet Engine came from.

[@cleanerben9636]

Nuclear trains are the future

[@propermods2849]

Is this a Jojo reference?

[@whatdoyouexactlymeanbyhandle]

43rd

[@mattevans4377]

So the American project went nowhere, and the Russian were able to use the information gained on some new trains. I'd say that's quite embarrassing for the Americans....

[@firetruckstrainsicecreamtr4971]

Amtrakguy365 already did this I guess. Someone staple my mouth closed. NOT REALLY!

[@PoopooR]

Only in ohio

[@Imposterbussid]

Ohio train💀