The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 647 | Double Rebound

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The JBP kicks things off by recapping the Terence Crawford & Errol Spence Jr. fight from over the weekend in Las Vegas (9:35) before moving to Cardi B chucking a microphone at a fan after a drink was thrown at her while performing (46:21). *SPOILER ALERT* The rest of the pod provides their thoughts on Netflix’s ‘They Cloned Tyrone’ (1:05:40), the gang then shares their thoughts on the passings of Pee-wee Herman actor Paul Reubens (1:16:14) and ‘Euphoria’ star Angus Cloud (1:20:25), and rumors swirl of Summer Walker & Lil Meech splitting after she shares posts to her Instagram story (1:40:01). Also, Ish asks the group if they have walked back their takes on the new Travis Scott album (2:00:30), NLE Choppa’s tribute to Nelly with a new song (2:24:11), Part of the Show returns (2:37:32), + MORE!
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0:00 - Intro
9:35 - Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr.
46:21 - Cardi B chucking a microphone
1:05:40 - *SPOILER ALERT* Netflix’s ‘They Cloned Tyrone’ review
1:16:14 - Paul Reubens
1:20:25 - Angus Cloud
1:40:01 - Summer Walker & Lil Meech
2:00:30 - Travis Scott album
2:24:11 - NLE Choppa’s tribute to Nelly
2:37:32 - Part of the Show
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[@SoSelfMadeMedia]

0:28 - The Pod starts as the guys joke with Ish about dying his beard 🤣 3:51 - Joe confronts Mel about some of her recent Tweets 😭 6:46 - Joe Intro’s the Pod as the gang welcomes Flip back and wishes him a Happy belated birthday 🥳 9:34 - The crew talks about the Errol Spence vs Terrance Crawford boxing match (The guys breaks down the fight) 🥊 17:52 - Joe plays some audio clips of before the fight and Post-Fight from Spence vs Crawford before continuing to discuss 👀 27:53 - Joe says fans at the fight said Spence’s team almost threw in the towel a few times but never did 😳 30:33 - Joe has a few laughs about Post Fight commentary + theirs talk of a possible rematch if Spence wants it too happen 34:10 - The talk goes to Caleb Plant Smacking Jermall Charlo in Vegas before they continue discussing the Spence vs Crawford fight 41:36 - The gang now talks about potential Boxing matchups in the future (Boxing talk is done after this) 46:22 - Cardi B threw a microphone in the Crowd at a recent Vegas Show (The crew speaks about the term “Assault”) 🎤 54:53 - Joe ask the guys if they were in Support of Ron Artest and Jermaine O’Neal in the ‘Malice at the Palace’ brawl 59:58 - The gang now talks about “restraint” pertaining to the Cardi B situation 1:05:44 - The crew gives their thoughts on Netflix’s “They Cloned Tyrone” ****SPOILER ALERT**** 1:16:18 - R.I.P to Paul Reubens aka Pee Wee Herman and also R.I.P to ‘Euphoria’ actor Angus Cloud 🙏🏽 1:24:14 - The talk now gets deep as the crew discusses “Self transitioning” and give thoughts on if it’s Selfish 1:34:51 - Rapper GHerbo has been charged for fraud and faces up to 25 years + Lizzo is facing backlash from dancers on her Tour 😳 1:40:07 - Rumors of Summer Walker and Lil Meech breaking up hit online (The pod talks about Monogamous relationships with young people) 2:00:37 - Ish has a question pertaining to Travis Scott’s ‘Utopia’ album and they speak on the project again 🎶 2:06:17 - Dave Chapelle has 4 upcoming Shows at Madison Square Garden 🔥 2:10:48 - Flip mentions that Ish has a few more articles coming soon 😂 + The guys talk Music (They discuss Big Sean, Drake, 21 Savage & more) 2:22:16 - Joe plays an old Lebron James audio clip and calls cap on it 🤣🤣 2:24:20 - NLE Choppa flipped Nellys “Hot in here” and the Crew reacts and speak on Nelly 2:27:05 - Joe reads a article about the mysterious death of a Chef that worked for the Obama’s + also speaks on the Tyre Nichols story 2:31:42 - Dr. J listed his Top 10 Basketball players of all time + Joe talks about an old story involving NBA Player Derrick Rose 🏀 2:37:42 - Joe reads a “Part of the Show” Question (The crew gives their thoughts) 2:44:20 - The gang gives applause to Gillie Fest that took place over the weekend 🔥 2:47:16 - Joe has a funny question for the guys on the Pod 🤣🤣🍑 2:51:44 - Joe says the Trans community is accusing Women of gatekeeping 2:57:12 - Joe Officially Outro’s the Pod ****If you Support my Timestamps for the Pod, Give me a Like and Sub**** 🙏🏼

[@brandonayong5823]

13:50 love how deep down joe is still such an Em fan 😂

[@amraykock620]

Ima give u a like and a Sub but if u ain’t consistent im undoing all that

[@social_exe]

Bruh, you seriously the GOAT for this

[@reeceroberts621]

That last hacks segment was 🤌🏾😁🔥🔥

[@roxymorris9817]

I Like NLE , But Didn't Care For The Remake Nelly 😊

[@loiswhitley5879]

This episode made me cringe. Joe was deliberately going at Mel. And what's disgusting he did it while discussing a serious topic. Thank you Parks for having compassion to offer condolences and not jump on the bandwagon to attack Mel. My God. If Joe wants to get rid of Mel please don't do it like this.

[@keepitofficialbilly]

Do yall want male friends or not? We don't sugarcoat shit just because you are a lady.

[@Domindi]

Hes showing more and more what a POS he is. Hes entertaining ill give him that.

[@b.a3595]

Mel can handle her own, stop treating her in a infantile way-and victimising her. She already told y’all in a few episodes to stop doing that shit.

[@Damian-zu6ls]

@@b.a3595fr fr she older than Joe and they sounding like she a baby who you can’t argue with or talk shit about lol

[@quietstorm5293]

People are so soft get her outta here

[@candyg4209]

Joe and Ish seemed in a mood today. They act as if their opinions are the only valid ones. Appreciate Flip for looking out for Mel today

[@Tails-ec5ft]

Ain't that every episode 😂

[@MamasFlipSlots]

I love how Flip always have Mel's back and take the time to talk to her through a conversation when the rest of her friends push their opinions. xoxoxoxo [video timestamps: 1:31 - 1:35 ]

[@NA-pq2rj]

I peeped that too 😊

[@derekblasingame7145]

He never really does

[@nyekapage7045]

Me too

[@SupaNatural28]

​@derekblasingame7145 yes he does. He staying telling them to shut up and let her finish her train of thought. The other guys (most notably ISH) be really to prove her wrong.

[@saleemyusef7865]

Because he trying 2 fck….

[@mclovin4life1]

not too much on Mel too. loved how she stood on the fact that to remove stigma regarding mental health is to normalize talking about it

[@AM-nh9lj]

Former Mental Health Worker, and Melyssa is spot on. Some of us are only here for our children or others. Please Be Kind. Always.

[@JGiese-ri9fm]

Well hello Mrs Mental health Mel

[@3rvin01]

No fuckin shit

[@Brownsugadream]

@@JGiese-ri9fm 49:49 49:49

[@Brownsugadream]

😅

[@ambirules]

M4 must really be a patient and understanding person because she gracefully tolerates this childish bs and disrespect from these goofs every week. I would've been snapped. 🙃😂 Joe goes out of his way to go against her and demean her every time she speaks. Mel was absolutely right in what she said.

[@TheSpydoc]

I commend her! I would have imploded long ago!

[@Tripp74]

She could leave

[@whoismillie1]

@@Tripp74need to

[@keepitofficialbilly]

She be gaslighting them with some of her woman bs.

[@indiangawd2177]

And if you would’ve snapped, your ass would be thrown off the show lol 😂

[@thekingcrawleynetwork6665]

Mel did her thing even tho y’all were tryna talk over her at times…she still held it down and made her points clear.

[@keithlott5146]

Can yall stop the Mel stuff, Joe made a great point, that extended the conversation. He interrupts everybody. Mel is a grown woman who decided to get paid by sitting amongst a group of men discussing different topics. Joe attacks Ish and his comments twice as much as anyone on the show. He attacks Ice twice as much as Mel, why do Mel getting interrupted is a issue when everyone gets cut off. It's a freaking podcast, this not enough on Mel is silly. 5 adults having a conversation, joking, agreeing, attacking, underscoring, and having discussions with each other. She is a member of the show, why should she be treated differently, because she is an adult, a woman what, can someone make me understand. She accepts the check, she endure the wrath of Joe just like everyone else on the show.

[@theemo9457]

I would not say wraith but your right its like you said they debate discuss topics an will naturally have disagreements and takes. I will say Joe ice an Ish have more understanding of Joe an Flip obviously adjusting an people don't give Mel enough credit for being able navigate through that an still stand her own not like she buckles under cause just like everyone else she stands firm an her opinion. Hell the learning curve for Joe is steep an im sure they have discussion on how the communication during the pod is taken vs outside the pod. I think people keep forgetting this is a show, Mel has done been through this before, and people keep speculating without knowing what's really going on afterwards.

[@kinggodson2334]

​@keithlott5146 Well Said 💪🏾💯💯💯

[@Priddyboiicrls]

@@keithlott5146 You Joe dickriders will never admit hes wrong about anything🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@89Drmz]

@@keithlott5146quit acting like you don’t see the consistent issue. This is false

[@SocialDrones]

Mel bodied this entire episode. Salute to that sister 💯💯

[@jakoreyaj]

🧢

[@jamiladamu4923]

BIG MEL! Reppin Canada ❤ 🇨🇦

[@businessbuilder92]

Per usuallll

[@mishelane605]

@@businessbuilder92 No per usual, but I was glad that she was standing her ground and actually speaking this pod. Sometimes I forget that she is even in the room.

[@businessbuilder92]

@@mishelane605 well actually the only reason I said that is because it's something she says alot not necessarily bc it's true lollll

[@chocgarner91]

It wasn’t big 30 it was "Big X The Plug" Put some respect on Texas Natives 💪🏿

[@derrickgaskins543]

Thank you that's what I thought

[@StreetSmartzTV]

Facts

[@danterose210]

Exactly!!

[@spinningbackkick6021]

Even worse they don’t even know. But yeah respect for looking out for your people.

[@jmike501]

Right, he normally comes out with Texas artists or Texas songs.

[@Leeksmcm]

I’m glad Mel said something about the constant Canadian comments. It’s annoying and dismissive, Canadians are not in some bubble where we don’t know what’s happening or can’t have an opinion that may be different than yours.

[@bigtemperancelithousex9036]

Right bringing up that dhe was Canadian was dismissive and then dismissed her again when she said categorizing mentally ill people as crazy was also dismissive it's like what's really going on here

[@yus6078]

Mel didn’t deserve any of that push back. Joe is the king of twisting words and getting on the others nerves for his entertainment.

[@reesetwist2290]

Thats why he sits and wait to see what everybody is going to say about a topic while he formulates his sinister plans. Smh

[@Steven-sd2zi]

He does it so there's drama because that's what brings the clicks

[@DeeBrownLTD]

Melyssa did a GREAT JOB on the Angus conversation

[@BricesonLoving]

Yeaaa she really did Joe sounds like a clown

[@Kobe-jz2zz]

​@BricesonLoving how is Joe a clown ? He made a good point I see both sides

[@jamilbelle]

No she didn’t. No need to bring up his mental illness or drug abuse past on the day he died. She brought up Anthony Bourdain, another bad example as well. Whom self transitioned SOBER as can be!! Have some class, have some tact!! That’s what Joe was saying 💯

[@Kobe-jz2zz]

@jamilbelle exactly lol I'm not sure why people are confused on what Joe was saying I see both sides.

[@gregoryraynor7713]

@@jamilbelle You mean the way Joe brought up Mel being Canadian to demean her point? His delivery was trash.

[@Kincaid2576]

1:25:34 Ish cuts Me off mid sentence. 1:25:48 Mel tries to complete her thought 1:27:17 Ish comments on Mel having cut him off. 1:27:42 Mel cuts Ish off 1:28:10 Ish says he’s been cut off twice. Happy & exhausted for Mel making sure she completed her thought. Ish should watch himself back on these episodes so he can be more aware of how often he cuts other people off. Ice listens to respond. I appreciate that. And I appreciate Parks trying to move the conversation to the next topic.

[@DeeBrownLTD]

I think Joe set up Melyssa to be attacked by the room which is why she tried to hold her own

[@tnicoletnicole]

@@DeeBrownLTDhe repeatedly does it. She’s the target for 80% of the show every time. It’s getting ridiculous and I’m glad she stood her grown and called him out on the repeated “Canada” jab. Like she said she’s been in America for 20+ years. You think she doesn’t know why how America works? He’s corny.

[@elleque1]

Exactly. He get so emotional about mental health when the guys own mom said that he was having issues. Also Robin Williams own wife said that he was battling depression and dementia, along with being diagnosed with Parkinson disease. They keep ganging up on her

[@carmensandiego223]

Ish is the worst, when it comes to Mel, I swear🙄. "You cut me off twice" he sounds so CHILDISH. I'm glad she checked Joe about the Canada joke, it's tired and lame.

[@walrose4268]

Not feeling ish

[@CallieDHopes]

I LOVED seeing Mel back Joe tf down on the whole mental health/Canada section 🎉 ‘Bout time, Mel!

[@TheSpydoc]

🎉🎉🎉

[@johnjohnson1099]

Mel backed herself down when she had to admit that the same stigma she was disregarding was what she was fighting against. You can’t deny the stigma exist then claim to be fighting to de stigmatized the existing stigma you disregarded. Mel just be arguing to argue she fell back on her point just to reinforce Joe’a point that there is indeed a stigma against mental health at least in America. Maybe not in Canada

[@cld5]

​@johnjohnson1099 facts. She was right there is a conversation that should be had. However the point joe was making is it isn't when someone dies and the cause isn't confirmed.

[@johnjohnson1099]

@@cld5 then she wasn’t right because the context of what Joe is saying is that it shouldn’t be brought up in death. Which Mel is doing and ignoring the stigma that she claims she wants to fight

[@daniz5868]

Mel, stand your ground!

[@oyindew55]

Why is it that when Melyssa shares her thoughts it is always challenged as if she doesn't know what she's talking about . It seems like they just want her there to sit pretty.

[@brianwilson3161]

I hate that they cut Mel off so much. Especially when she’s making a great point.

[@journeedevinelove]

Me too, they do that often just to inject some immature teenage idea or joke.. it’s getting very old real quick.

[@julonjohnson8080]

Fr tho I was thinking the same shit lol.. that really be Joe doing that shit tho 😂.

[@colindilworth260]

@@julonjohnson8080m-

[@taylabeauty]

They fo it to each other. I do wish they stop though.

[@CleverlyChloe]

Lol men

[@tamalaknox1438]

I don't understand why Joe brought in Mel, someone who is intelligent and a complex, critical thinking and then get annoyed when she expresses intellectual thoughts. It's just insane to want to express simplistic thoughts all the time.

[@whatudoin1]

still waiting for an episode where joe won´t stomp on Mel opinion before she can end a sentence lol she was 100% right on this episode ...how can you dismiss mental health when talking about this sensitive subject

[@dionnesimpson6183]

These American Boys had their panties in a bunch this episode!!! Mel voiced very strong points. STOP jumping her 😑

[@BricesonLoving]

Facts

[@teflondonjuan]

So because the men have a different opinion means they're jumping her? Y'all gotta chill.

[@dionnesimpson6183]

@teflondonjuan no, they were actually abrasive, and Ish snapped at her, saying that she cut him off twice. Then they ALL spoke over each other in a frenzied attack on Mel. This is apparently a very sensitive topic for Joe, but Mel is entitled to her opinion.

[@b.a3595]

@@dionnesimpson6183They all do that to each other whenever they’re having passionate discussions. Ish,flip and Joe do that to each other a lot. Y’all are so desperate to victimized and infantile Mel for some reason -when she’s said in previous pods for y’all to stop doing that.

[@dionnesimpson6183]

@@b.a3595 I SAID what I SAID 😑

[@Marnique321]

Mel was completely right! Joe knows good and well that substance abuse and mental health issues could play a role in someone making the decision to self transition. Ugh! It is just so cringe watching him gaslight her🙄

[@deuce7258]

He never said anything about it not being a factor but she is trying to bring it up saying kloud used drugs and had mental abuse while people are still mourning his fucking death. Also the examples she used both were sober when self deleting. So no mel was not right at all. And to be quite frank drug abuse isnt the reason for self deletion its actually how they are trying to self delete

[@Marnique321]

She was speculating. She said he had a history of drug use. Does that mean she said he was actively using ? I just don't see how she was wrong for bringing that up. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@sarad2659]

What's so crazy is that he was talking about 'logic' concerning suicide. In science if a variable pops up in so many cases, i.e mental health concerns, then LOGICALLY it's important to highlight and speak on

[@Hugo-tf6no]

Muh gaslightiiiiing

[@nealmason8785]

​@deuce7258 Mel is right this isnt even up for debate especially when joe has brought mental health as it being a concerning factor for someone hurting themselves he just apologized few months ago for being dismissive of megs mental depression she mentioned, Mel as joe does was pushing the conversation forward joe is the one who brought who the actors father was which made me go google, joe was alluding that the pressure of maybe who his parents were could've contributed to hurting himself or depression he didn't say depression but why bring up parenting when talking about his self deletion? It was semantics and she killed him in the end you can't argue with the conversation of mental illness especially if you don't personally know the person.

[@beegebeeg7079]

I learn a new word from Mel every pod. Please don’t run her off she’s helping my vocabulary.

[@wukong1066]

What words? Just curious. Iont like how she's used esoteric, was a stretch. Made my ears twitch

[@mckenleymason1212]

​@@wukong1066grow up. Having a good vocab is good.

[@wukong1066]

@@mckenleymason1212 where did I say NOT having an extensive vocabulary is good? You're just replying to be confrontational on a point I didn't even make 🙄

[@THATSSODON]

I love flip always looking out for Mel.. he’s truly a great friend ❤

[@shaynalavon]

Mel is TIRED. I'm tired FOR her. This pod does not need a woman. They don't respect it. They constantly speak over her...miss her points and gaslight her.

[@Pharoeamer1]

Yeah, if they're not going to let her speak, why is she there?

[@shaynalavon]

@@Pharoeamer1 right! It's getting hard to watch. It happens a LOT and she is normally a good sport, but you can see it's getting to her.

[@FlyyHigh834]

@Pharoeamer1 to do exactly what he's doin to her damn near every episode and also for Eye candy

[@Loso_a]

Mel had belt to ass for that mental health topic. Everybody had valid points but she smoked it

[@88til_inf]

Mel wasn’t wrong in discussing what FACTORS could be at play when someone unsliced themselves, it wasn’t speculation or reckless, I thought she approached it respectfully. I hate when they don’t let her finish her thoughts

[@dashasprouts1]

Mel, sis, thank you for using your voice and not shutting down. I feel you represent many women when we try and speak our mind in similar situations. I can’t wait to support your own show.

[@MrOhioPlayer]

It never fails, Joe got in one of his moods after he was dead wrong about the definition of assult. I also see why Joe and Ish are best friends mfs are disrespectful as shit to women. I get everyone can get some jokes but you know it's something when either Parks tries to move on or Flip tries to save her.

[@thehustlersportspodcast4047]

They get so tiring with dumb takes

[@teflondonjuan]

You niggas is crazy wit the Mel caping. That is a grown ass woman, stop treating this chick like a child.

[@MrOhioPlayer]

@@thehustlersportspodcast4047 💯💯💯

[@saucyfaces]

Agreed.

[@jamilbelle]

Y’all just on Mel’s dick as usual because she’s a woman. She was WRONG here to bring up mental health, or drug use when we know no such thing pertaining to this kid’s death. Have some class, have some tact. That was the point Joe was making is that you DONT NEED TO SAY THAT TODAY!!

[@eb8403]

I agree with Mel. They don’t listen well at all. Ending your own life can be respected but it is not normal/natural to do so. There have to be contributing factors and it is okay to do so in order to hopefully help others that are considering the same action. The point Joe made is valid about not jumping to conclusions on why someone chooses to leave this life when there is no explanation. To start describing people ending their life prematurely as logical because they were successful in their careers may be a bit of a leap though

[@ldcsreef5232]

Exactly. Joe be saying some nonsense and can’t properly defend his position, so then he attacks. I’m glad Mel stood up for herself.

[@rendrickdoucet3093]

They listen well they just don’t respect her and rather gaslight her

[@j.e3336]

@@rendrickdoucet3093 Bro stop with this bs.

[@j.e3336]

Just as much as I could agree. Yall are just so wrong. Why does it always have to be a joe vs Mel thing. Mel was speculating just like them, its not foreign for a person to have a good life but, TO THEM they thought up enough "logical" reasons for suicide to make sense to them in the moment. I almost feel like they were almost arguing the same point different ways.

[@BlackThenBlack]

@@j.e3336Thank you

[@duanelee522]

Mel was aggravated this episode, she was trying to hold it.

[@truvision93]

I’m just here to say again how proud I am of Mel for standing her ground & just agreeing with whatever cause they tried so hard to get her to say something just so they can disagree. She gave them nothing & as she should of💪🏾🙌🏾

[@DadBot-_-]

They always on Mel lol 😂

[@user-sc7kh4fx5s]

@@DadBot-_-men & women tend to think differently…. Bound to happen

[@DadBot-_-]

@@user-sc7kh4fx5s yeah but it seem like every time she has a point they shit on it

[@MrOhioPlayer]

Yea, at this point it's so corny how they treat Mel and never take her serious. The Canadian jokes and her being single always gets thrown in her face when she's cooking them.

[@jennaywilliams7664]

That's only because she cute lol they have to stay the opposite of what they really thinking

[@benjaminw.5689]

Joe gone lose Mel if he keeps being so demeaning everytime she opens her mouth. You won't be innocent this time

[@malgrizz]

Because she sounds like a idiot. She didn’t bring anything to the mental health topic.

[@stuartmccleary1093]

They one of top podcast in country and he swapped the entire cast. I think they be aight if she dips 😂 Mel random outburst be like “I saw a vid on how to suck pussy properly, let’s discuss” you can miss that

[@familyfam225]

Truth!

[@thatraspyshxt]

It's tired.

[@nucklehead718]

Yes joe or any1 from the pod if yall read this.... Yall come off a little passive aggressive against mel. The things yall felt/feel about women seems to overflow to mel when she has nothing to do with yall dating history/experiences. Shes a great addition to the pod I always liked mel shes smart articulate and beautiful is the bonus. Dont lose her over some bs. It's nice to have a woman like her give her perspective on this pod that's been all males b4 her.

[@shesogorgeousa]

I loved EVERYTHING about Mel this episode. She looks beautiful and I commend her for speaking up and holding her own. I hope she continues to be more vocal in that way. I feel like she holds back a lot.

[@patrickwood5499]

This shit with Mel and Joe, in particular, is getting disgusting. I feel like Joe wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants the higher ratings that come with her lone female perspective but literally tries to pick apart everything she says. He is straight up bullying her and the other guys just laugh. I honestly expect more from Parks but he is Joe's little puppet so I guess that's set in stone. This situation is untenable and I wouldn't be surprised if she left soon.

[@FlyyHigh834]

FACTS

[@kommstheir]

Heavy on the Joe is Parks' master and controller

[@quietstorm5293]

Y'all sensitive

[@perryboy6044]

He's a narcissist straight up. Look up his track record. He used to beat his wife. Also look at his last podcast partners Rory & Mal? It ended because Joe is a maniac.

[@phantomggg]

How are y’all arguing with Mel about mental health being relevant to suicide?

[@agie_2671]

Right.. I don't understand the confusion

[@j.e3336]

Thats not what he said but yall love drama so much any kind of friction gets yall hyped up. He didn't even say Mel was wrong, he was just pointing out it isn't always schizophrenia or severe depression that can cause people to self-transition. Sometimes people will sit and "logically"(even if its not correct) come up with reasons, such as being a burden on someone. It ties back to mental health at the end, but joe never said Mel was wrong.

[@periseanbaltimore2037]

@@j.e3336 couldn't have said it better myself, salute

[@MoJones9919]

@@j.e3336it’s not normal to kill yourself. There is nothing logical about suicide. We don’t live in the Middle Ages where elderly would kill themselves to make room or save rations for their grandchildren. If you are sitting there and rationalizing suicide, then you have a mental illness. You have a chemical imbalance 😒 period

[@phantomggg]

@@j.e3336 he got triggered by her bringing up mental health and he assumed she meant crazy, which she never said. They was goin hard on her for no reason

[@notthattactical]

Ish is too smart for his own good. Mental health issues isnt his lane and should have been a convo between Flip and Mel, and Parks trying to move the conversation along doesn't help. Mental health is something that should ALWAYS be talked about. Corny on Parks, Ish, and Joe's part by trying to belittle Mel with the whole Canada jab.

[@MyWooMe]

Parks was super corny for that

[@j.e3336]

Bro the Canada jab is a harmless joke, move on and continue making your point like everyone else on the pod does when someone makes a joke. Just as much as yall claim they belittle Mel, yall belittle her acting like she can't take a joke shes grown........Canada?....really? They make married jokes about parks, "in the house" jokes about ice, they say ish is a fake black Israelite....yall need to grow a pair, Joe wasnt even 100% wrong.

[@yuioyup]

​@j.e3336 all jokes aren't created equal

[@notthattactical]

@j.e3336 jokes are fine, but that wasn't the time to do so, and it clearly affected her at that moment.

[@keithlott5146]

It's a podcast, stretch the lines, push the boundaries and when a topic is hot, throw grease on it, as a Podcaster you should be able to inject feelings or just content to make the podcast worth viewing. I love the podcast, but I enjoy it never believe everything they say

[@brenda78297]

I love Mel this episode! Yes girl fight back

[@CountryChristmasCripple]

As a person with self-transition ideations that stem from me having PTSD and bipolar disorder, I like Mel’s approach so much! From my experience it’s like a place in your mind that is out of character but it still brings a form of comfort knowing people won’t have to worry anymore. ❤

[@saleemyusef7865]

I’m in that same boat with u, but I have a extremely different view.. I will NOT go through with the act. because the moment I do I am weak. And it will be too late for me to strengthen myself..

[@fsexpresscleaningservices5720]

Trust me, if you self transition, people will still have to worry about you... In fact, they'll worry more once you're gone with all the "what did we do wrong" thoughts! You'd be the only one not worrying anymore! Your loved ones will be hurt forever! You are LOVED! 💖

[@CountryChristmasCripple]

Thank you both for great perspectives! It’s a process of unlearning these thoughts that have inspired me to try my best!

[@tposeuntilww3153]

Just do it bro you got this just go through with it don’t be a failure bro just do it one shot and your gone

[@fsexpresscleaningservices5720]

@@tposeuntilww3153 WOW

[@Lakers121]

Ish sounded ignorant on the self transitioning topic. Mel had many points they didn’t want to hear

[@sheenamcneil7690]

I’m completely Team Mel. Hate how they keep trying to shut her down about mental health issues but have whole segments talking about how unhappy she seems.

[@TheSpydoc]

Facts!!

[@robinsonayuk8179]

That’s call podcasting

[@speedcede]

It’s not shutting her down, it’s looking at her point from multiple angles and sometimes the point doesn’t seem so strong or important as she thinks

[@juombe]

Not surprised, you're a female.

[@justadude1477]

Yeah we gotta just get her off the show now, if it’s gonna be complaints Everytime

[@Englewood3x]

Mel & Flip could really branch off and do their own thing... He's really a good friend to her.

[@eglayosef7505]

Mel’s hair look TF GOOD

[@jachai3448]

Mel was on fire I usually am on the boys side but y’all made this shit too trivial and joe got on his I can’t be wrong highhorse,great job Mel

[@SR.2295]

I Love Mel’s understanding.

[@MariahKMoon]

Let’s goooo Mel!!! This is the ENERGY we need from you !!!?

[@shivasamadhi]

Bro I can’t even keep up with the content no more. This is a legendary run!

[@AliFrankTheTank]

facts my red line halfway 😂😂😅😅😅

[@SpokenWorldTV]

Cardi said throw water on me. fan threw water on her. taking cardi's side is idiotic.

[@stashlomain]

Mel speaks so well.

[@jessmytype]

Self-transition and mental health issues are sensitive subjects, so I hope no one takes offense. The reason MH may be mentioned when a person takes that route is because those issues can affect a person’s decision making. In addition to the emotional and/or physical pain they may be in, MH issues can cause chemical imbalances in the brain that directly affect one’s mood, reality and ability to handle hardships. Some medications even list “su***dal thoughts” as a possible side effect. So, we can’t dismiss MH and substance abuse issues as a dig at the victim…sometimes they play a direct role in a person’s thought patterns and behavior. Logic is probably one of the least common reasons in the choice to self-transition.

[@j.e3336]

I agree, but im not sure Joe was saying Mel was wrong, he was just saying to you're point, people will convince themselves they should self-transition through there own "logic" process, no matter how much it may not make sense to nobody but them. Its not always a drug reaction/schizophrenic episode there are real life factors in suicide too.

[@Yellowbutterfliies]

THANK YOU‼️‼️‼️‼️ my God I can't believe these responses! You gave me some hope, lol. And Mel was simply pointing that out. No time did she say "and that's what happened to this young man " the MOTHER put that out there for public consumption! So I don't understand that heat she took. I consider myself level headed and not quick to go off but I couldn't have sat there and listened to them. I'm sure she had a freaking headache. Ignorance is bliss

[@jessmytype]

@@j.e3336 I feel you friend, but he was dismissive of her point because he just doesn’t like when those things are mentioned. That’s his right, but it’s dangerous. He attempted to offer “logic” as an equally valid reason, but it’s not. If a person “logically” concludes they are better off d**d than alive, absent a terminal illness, there is probably a clinical level of depression, etc at play-whether or not they have been diagnosed. Those issues, including nutritional deficiencies (I say this because stress depletes vitamin B, which is essential for mood regulation and mental clarity), play a key role in what someone may BELIEVE is logic. Again, it is not. I’m not saying that people who go that route never do it with a clear mind, but I would argue that in most cases what they THINK is logic, may be a deeper, unknown issue.

[@BandoLandoIII]

I appreciate Flip standing on his opinions

[@BandoLandoIII]

Also, perspective on how good jerry west was, only player to win finals mvp on a losing team

[@AM-nh9lj]

Always!

[@cterry511]

About peewee.. Lmao

[@dkmrap1]

​@@BandoLandoIIIthat's hate

[@kareemlawson878]

Mel looks so fire in thumbnail, may my girl look as fine as Mel at her age. I think we must all agree that the jbp really improves all of our mental health. Thanks for the drops guys.

[@chaneloctavia]

Joe hates being wrong smh. Throws a tantrum every time. They also need to collectively do better at listening to Mel. She had valid points but the misogynist in each of them couldn’t allow her to talk and get her point across.

[@jessicaconley2212]

Mel did her thing this pod. As someone who struggles with mental health, she's spot on.❤

[@tryme2245]

Mel deflected Joe so smooth. "Did you go see Barbie?" 😂😂😂😂

[@AnaAnaAna]

Also - I don't think Mel is going to stay on this pod. I can see her leaving 😢

[@axa5005]

Can’t or can?

[@AnaAnaAna]

@@axa5005 can lol I corrected it

[@camseemore]

Self-Transitioning should never be called a logical decision. It’s an unfortunate and sad decision only. A lot of people are hurting now because Angus’ decision. I guarantee all those people wished he just came to them so they could help him in any type way. Fighting to keep young people alive matter. RIP Augus Cloud. Prayers up for your family.

[@TheSpydoc]

Thank you!!!!!

[@bigtemperancelithousex9036]

That's what I'm saying shit is selfish and idiotic

[@purplecity706]

I legit feel for Mel and how much they try to belittle what she says, or try to make what she said sound so catastrophic/insensitive . Hope she toughens through this cause some heavy convos can’t just be shaken off as part of the job.

[@adrekleintjes5697]

Thank you Mel for giving your opinion on topics. I also appreciate it that you mean what you say and say what you mean. 🇿🇦

[@DDyke]

Pay day and a 3 hour POD?! YESSS!

[@mr.chocolaterobot]

👑👑👑🤑🤑🤑

[@TyBreaks]

Fuck you got Chime 😂

[@Byrdpeterson07]

This Mel episode! Bodied!

[@YCBanksMusic]

“My Mother Bought this for me” got me in tears 😂😭😭

[@hardrockcafedallas]

Happy to see yall spend so much time touching on the fight. Yall did a good job covering it

[@sativadivact9892]

Mel is the only woman on a male dominated podcast… she’s not weak , she can handle them. Y’all relax.

[@edwardcrank85]

Factzzzz

[@mishelane605]

I wish she would stand her ground and speak up more often, it was great to see. But I think she has finally found her voice and she is going to be on Go from here on out!

[@keithlott5146]

Great post, not enough on Mel, she cashed the check.

[@TheSpydoc]

Go Melissa!! Loved your take on different factors of transitioning. ❤

[@MyCabbage1]

"Going steady" was hilarious!😂😂😂

[@Ominicka]

Love the hair M4 this is you! I'm appreciating the daily pods. Thanks Joe.

[@Kevin-fu3ni]

Helping me through my work day with these episodes everyday!!

[@ILoveAllPeople.]

"Restraint" is the word I'm taking from this Pod. Because lately it feels so needed out here.

[@LJIsler-gf3bn]

2:08 Ish, “You’re done with the insult”??? Lmfaooo 😂😂

[@BricesonLoving]

Damn Joe is always so loud and wrong lol Suicide topic he was super wrong Lizzo topic he was wrong Clone Tyrone he was wrong Even him picking Errol before the fight he was wrong 😂😂😂😂 Tryna make “self transitioning “ Sound like a good thing is insaaaane And then usin Aaron Hernandez as an example of logical suicide is nuts considering he murdered multiple people Including his best friend in cold blood Like wtf is Joe talking about

[@89Drmz]

and HATES to take accountability

[@dolphireland3857]

Super FACTZ!!!!!!

[@saucyfaces]

Somebody had to say it. 👑🙏🏽

[@UP4JULY]

It’s a character he plays to keep the conversation going it’s a podcast skill he is playing the villain/opposite opinion of the audience(there are people who agree with Joe) if he doesn’t do that and everyone in the room agrees then this video would be 25mins

[@janaejordan6457]

Spot on !

[@BoNnI308]

I’m just happy people are FINALLY getting in tune with Bud…. Late asf but ya see the greatness now

[@fadethechannel]

Yea I said that night he became a household name. His ascension story is fkn phenomenal. 🔥

[@stretchgotit2845]

I agree with Mel on the mental health topic

[@doniellewilliams5802]

I like what flip did by looking at both sides and listening to Mel’s point

[@AnaAnaAna]

Each one of these personalities makes up a perfect podcast forreal! 🤌🏽💕

[@tonyicewater5303]

Bout time we got the whole gang back !!!

[@InBaseGodWeTrust]

1:44:30 - 1:45:30 was fucking hilarious. Mel was over it. Joe just says shit and he doesn’t even be knowing it

[@sdotp186]

Let Mel get a full sentence out guys

[@darnelldarden9429]

I can’t see Mel being here too much longer. You can see she’s fed up

[@agkillah4726]

I feel bad for Mel

[@Isaiah.N]

Thank y’all for being real about an album that was so great for real. On Repeat! Can’t listen to any other music. It was such a good weekend.

[@frostbaby6837]

Still ain't heard that Post Malone

[@antruss4843]

They Clone Tyrone was a good movie that will need to be watched multiple times before understanding the greatness of the movie.

[@gel0121]

How great is it if you have to watch multiple times

[@Dayizzodad]

No thanks

[@antruss4843]

@@gel0121 Smh That's because there were hidden messages within the messages.

[@Mxun]

Yall should do a whole podcast with just a roast session. I be dying when yall go off😭😂😂

[@Loso_a]

Mel just need to return energy the same way and stand 10toes. The other podders be dead ass wrong sometimes and stand in it.

[@axa5005]

It’s hard when its 5 against 1 :/

[@Mi-qo2bc]

Yes!!! Melissa! You spoke up TUHDAY!!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@quietstorm5293]

No she didn't

[@isstrip1002]

"Big Natural" is hilarious 🤣🤣

[@scribescholar]

Mel finally snapped about that Canada shit 😂

[@Kushman_G]

56:19 Melyssa is getting fed up with joe look at her face 😲😯😲

[@MrOhioPlayer]

Joe's track record with women is really showing with Mel. Him and Ish are disrespectful AF to Mel.

[@Kushman_G]

@@MrOhioPlayer facts 💯 there taking Mel's kindness for weakness

[@rendrickdoucet3093]

Hopefully soon Mel realizes that Joe doesn’t respect her and she decides to leave and do her own thing

[@acejohnson375]

Mel be contradicting herself a lot.... she was just about to cry about looking for love last week... now she gonna tell Ole girl to live her life.... and don't worry about a man... just bad advice all around.... Summer Walker gonna be 50 with no husband listening to Mel

[@MByessir]

Her face said it all as soon as she knew Joe was going to ask her to explain that thought process lol

[@acejohnson375]

@@MByessir he let her live... he knew what she was saying was some bs

[@flyoutchase]

Mel really bodied this episode lads

[@musiqman8771]

Mel choosing not to answer whether she liked the movie or not is when I knew she was smarter than everybody on the pod🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️😭

[@TheSpydoc]

So true 😂😂😂😂

[@stoictee]

Agreed 🤝👏🏾

[@HennyPrince]

Yo Ish response to Joe’s “who wrote the Bible?” was HILARIOUS 1:23:41 “ahh man”

[@missbennieboom]

29:58 Flip is hilarious 😂. I love when he dissects a conversation and then adds his own joke!

[@leeleeboss9523]

The intro is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

[@RichEyeMedia]

PSA for everyone hurt about Mel being cut off. Understand business; mel is getting her own segment on the JBN, so it’s their tactic to , cut her off/can’t finish her point/etc etc > to then have ppl like YOU think “ they keeping cutting her off when she’s making a point “ > so when her shows start YOU and ppl like you will run over to support quickly. understand once those cameras is on, IT IS ALL BUSINESS! not your emotions boo. Your welcome!

[@downsouthdeebo1346]

Spence walked out with BigXthaPlug, an upcoming Texas rapper. Not Big30, Pooh Sheisty homeboy😂😂😂but either way, it didn't matter once Em walked out with Bud. The only way to beat that intro is walking out with Hov😂😂😂

[@thatkingbk]

Mel out here aging like fine wine.

[@michellemedley8321]

They brought back memories with the infamous Ron Artest brawl. I was watching that game live and was shocked but enjoyed it in high school. And I believe our boys basketball team thought they were them at that point lmao.

[@Moongod2500]

Been spoiled this whole week with the drops . Woke up today feeling confident we was getting another drop 😢. But salute either way