The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 691 | Meat Salad

[@elias.236]

After introducing Mel..."to her right her brother....Queenz Flip." (SILENCE in the room)... "Damn y'all **** ain't happy to hear?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Gtfoh37]

😂😂😂 man them guys ain’t going against joe for flip lol I hope he know that I wouldn’t be suprised if they be talking shit behind flip back

[@SoSelfMadeMedia]

0:28 - The Pod starts as the crew wishes Ish a Happy Birthday 🎈 + NYC had Snow ❄️ 6:22 - Convo on Joe’s outfit before he plays an audio clip and Intro’s the Pod 😂🔥 14:44 - Joe ask the crew how their doing as they talk about their weekends 💯 18:44 - Mos Def claims Drake is a “Pop Artist” in a recent interview (Audio clip + the pod reacts) 👀 29:30 - Ice thinks that older MC’s are stuck in the past when it comes to Hip Hop 33:35 - Joe thinks Drake tucks his tail when Legend MC’s speak on him + They speak on Michael Jackson 40:04 - The guys thoughts on if Drake speaking out will effect him as far as sponsorships 👀 48:18 - Thoughts on Drake’s response to Mos Def + they play more Clips from Mos Def’s interview 🎙️ 1:01:17 - Prize Picks Ad + Sports talk 🏀🏈 1:03:59 - The guys talk about the NFL Wildcard Weekend 😂🏈 1:09:44 - The talk becomes the reputation of the Dallas Cowboys Fans ⭐️ + Parks speaks on the Miami Dolphins downfall 🐬 1:16:04 - Detroit Lions success + praise for Rams WR Puka Nacua 1:19:34 - The guys joke with Flip for not knowing about Football 😂😂 1:21:49 - Gypsy Rose does not consider herself a murderer 👀 (Joe plays an audio clip) 1:27:17 - Rick Ross’s girlfriend Cristina Mackey spoke on his past relationships in a interview 😳 1:39:52 - Audio clip of Cristina Mackey responding to fans + the guys joke on younger chicks cooking 🍽️😭 1:45:30 - Joe brings up how people are saying that the food “Kale” is a myth 🥬 1:47:42 - Mel gives advice for younger women + Joe tells a quick story 😂 1:52:47 - Recap of the 2024 Emmy’s (Audio clips + Mel gives a breakdown of the event) 2:00:58 - Joe brings up how Fox owns Tubi and the crew discusses the platform 🎬 2:05:50 - Mel mentions Better Call Saul has no Awards + Flip dislikes the new Louis Vuitton Timberlands 🥾 2:10:31 - Joe mentions he is getting the crew some gifts + the guys continue speaking on footwear 👟 2:14:24 - Joe extends love to Ari Lennox + speaks on her wanting to Sue him 👀😭 2:19:56 - The Grammy’s are approaching and P.Diddy denies invitation + the crew reacts to Fabulous new song 2:23:47 - The Convo goes to Trump winning Iowa and how he’s “Back” (Politics talk for a few) 🇺🇸 2:33:32 - Ice confronts Flip about an IG live he had with Gillie and Fatboy SSE + Flip eventually goes at Joe 😂 2:41:22 - Part of the Show (The topic is about Friendships turning sour) 👀 2:44:04 - Joe’s mom told him to not play a gameshow again on the Pod 🤣🤣 2:49:17 - The topic goes to the Dance “Swag Surfin” since it went viral with Taylor Swift ****Hilarious Part**** 😂 2:57:33 - Joe Outro’s the Pod ****If you Support my Timestamps for the Pod, Give me a Like and Sub**** 🙏🏼

[@don4941]

The pod timestamp guy is officially back!

[@youngvee6910]

HIM✊🏾

[@BlackLightnin58]

Thank god you're back bruh! 🙏🏿

[@BlackLightnin58]

Time stamp KILLA!!!!!

[@cotneighx]

🔫🔫🔫

[@kimharmon6332]

I have never commented on your show but I'm obsessed with this podcast. I have not watched TV since I was turned on to the Podcast. You all are like my family now. I laugh so loud with you. Flip is hilarious. Out of control and the show would not be the same without him. Ish is so interesting and intriguing. Mel is so beautiful and I love how she can handle you all. Parks is so cool. Ice will challenge anything musical so you better be ready. The chemistry is phenomenal. Joe you are the GOAT. LOVE THIS SHOW

[@Queeney75]

Preach🔥🔥🔥 dis show feels like family gettin togetha...yu got sum of erythang lol

[@raekwonsnyder5030]

Jesus Christ

[@aminazulainaz7275]

❤❤❤

[@RodniThorpeTK]

Real. Likewise❤

[@batriciaparker]

Facts!

[@SheckMulbah]

Off the ending alone, this gotta be one of the funniest JBP eps I've seen in a minute. Man, seeing Ish do the Wobble in his seat had me dying laughing. 😂

[@twoine526]

THE WIGGGGGGG WIZARRRDDDDD. WEARING HER TIME AFTER TIMES 😂😂😂😂

[@Ladiesfirst321]

Took me out 😂😂😂 They love Mel

[@gentlemanthug285]

That Ari Lennox apology was wild 😂 he had me too

[@ezralewismusic]

😂

[@babufits1584]

That boy good 😁

[@glenchaos9]

😂😂

[@Hugo-tf6no]

The classic Fake Out from Frank Reynolds

[@salvadorianmami]

Comparing her to mixed nuts lmaoooo. I hate him 😂😂😂

[@ADayWithScottJax]

Mel with the Time After Time 9's is crazy.🤣

[@Beauty4Ashes578]

Lmfao you know what lmao I really can not lol. We’d have to fight lol Melissa better than me 😂😂😂

[@ADayWithScottJax]

@@Beauty4Ashes578 🤣🤣

[@aurileeray]

I love when Flip says “GOOOO” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RandyJ85]

Tell me why you're not the only one that feels like this... GOOOOO 😅

[@AliFrankTheTank]

that and “don’t touch me” (after touching someone) generational 😂😂😂

[@aurileeray]

@@RandyJ85 Ish & Ice be so tight when he says it to them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RandyJ85]

@@aurileerayproper vexated like he's sonning them... I feel like I'm going to start doing using "GOOOO" at work/family meetings when people are pussyfooting around lol 😆😆😆

[@deepstateovmind]

That could've been his drop, buttt ...

[@MrZay11]

Who else was laughing and smiling in the first five minutes lol.

[@winningishalfthebattle154]

The crew trying to get Ish to dance is one of many reasons why this has been my favorite podcast since 2016, even through all the changes. This show has done nothing but go up, and UP, and 🆙

[@darianjohnson-cook9294]

“You throw the cake guess whose coming right behind the cake” is wild 😂😂😂

[@darianjohnson-cook9294]

Happy birthday too ish too 🤞🏾🤞🏾

[@saevista]

That whole exchange was a BIG pause idk how they didn’t catch that lmao

[@goddessvibez7954]

I love when Joe is in a silly goofy mood🤭😂

[@niablee]

Ish and Mel are NEVER beating the allegations 😂 They need their own show, Joe!

[@skelcerjones4337]

I peep that the moment I looked at the thumbnail.... Joe is sick 😭😭😭

[@theamazingdoubleA]

And I’m MAD I love it. 😂

[@anthonyquinones5380]

What part lol what look 😂 put me on

[@deepstateovmind]

Nooooo they do not. It would be Gender Wars, yelling and meekness all damn episode. And I love them, but... Nahhhh 😂😂

[@clarkkent52]

they def hit...hahaha

[@agkillah4726]

That Ari build up was classic joe! Never stop joe you the 🐐

[@sheldonthegiant]

Meat salad is a WILD title lol

[@scootpac1106]

Ayooo

[@fredflintstone522]

Ayyyyyyyyye yo(New York accent voice?)

[@spinningbackkick6021]

Duh

[@dreevans3848]

I don’t know if it get more wild than that family 😂😂

[@coachgotbars]

Even crazier dish 😂😂😂😂

[@jtholmes3906]

Yoo we need Mos Def on the pod, that was a different kind of education from the god , blessings up

[@dianeross4522]

Most Definitely.

[@tiffanyblack6911]

Nope. Don't need him on. He needs to be quiet because some of that stuff he's saying is straight lies. Until he shows us what EXACTLY he is doing to help in the Congo...I don't wanna hear nothing from Mos Def.

[@threeeight5313]

⁠@@tiffanyblack6911what are you doing in the Congo ?

[@tiffanyblack6911]

@@threeeight5313 I'm not speaking on it Sir/ma'am. I see what's going on and keep my mouth shut as Mos should do. But, he is pocket watching and speaking on it... To answer you... there is nothing I can do because I'm not a millionaire or apart of the 1% or the 5%. So, all I can do is pray and talk to GOD about it.🙏🏼 Anymore questions Sir/ma'am?

[@justadude1477]

@@threeeight5313black people don’t trust other black people, only trillion dollar companies that put up a little donation sign lmao

[@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX]

Ish on a music take is like listening to Joe speak on loyalty to his friends. Words come out, fizzle and die instantaneously

[@IdrisImi]

The Accountable Wig-Wizard 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@danielbgoodman]

Joe looking rich rich. If you can’t respect this man’s ability to bounce back, you never won lost and won again

[@cameronwilson472]

Kale definitely came out of nowhere bout 10-15 years ago. I’m heavy on the spinach. Kale definitely got a publicist 😭😭

[@qazar444]

The first 5 mins Flip was on some fentanyl. 😆😆😆

[@nolimitskin2742]

😂😂never knew ice doing the “crank that” would be so funny

[@datdamdeeallen]

Right😂

[@datdamdeeallen]

He did say he was gonna loosin up & not be so serious in 2024

[@elias.236]

"You look good. I see you filling up the spot back there...." 👴🏾👴🏾 😂😂😂😂

[@earlwilliamsjr2415]

What happen with the socks , what did mel have to do with it

[@glenn-chazlibbie7814]

Ice screaming: " go fucking right!!" had me dyiiing man 😅

[@Eightohh4tosevenfive7]

Mos Def was right. Call it hate but he told zero lies.

[@AliFrankTheTank]

You never heard Do Not Disturb 🔊🔊🔊

[@ianrussellallcaps]

He didn’t lie He shot a music video at Nike Hq lol.

[@ellevee6919]

Mel not laughing at Drake because she used to screw ‘em 😂

[@joeycarlton238]

​@ianrussellallcaps that's what success look like.

[@ianrussellallcaps]

@@joeycarlton238 That’s what sponsorships look like. Especially when it comes to streaming.

[@treywilliams8634]

"Yall be comin to work like its laundry day" >Joe 😂😂😂😂

[@Januaryindere]

KZbin is trash without yall. Thanks .

[@chacefreeman]

Mel face at 2:40:02 got me hollering LMAOOOOOOOO

[@Theshortshowpodcast]

Do your homework on the JBP being the best pod ever! Let’s start there !

[@kyreetrend5280]

okay j mayne 😂😂. u not lying though. best pod

[@noslenaicrag5677]

Let's start there

[@pegobrown3690]

Did my homework heard your better than supa head at glazing

[@officialCEO50gaming]

​@@pegobrown3690😂😂😂😂

[@koolkids9418]

yep

[@kgoffney2]

I spit my food out with “Wig Wizard” 😆💀

[@RealTK1213]

Big bird pops had me crying😂😂😂😂

[@mahoganysweets67]

😂😂😂😂

[@user-pb1gs9hs5t]

Joe looking like a pack of Newport 100 lights and mustard packet 😂😂

[@rosselyayo2064]

the end of the pod was fire >> and emmany sounds crazy time after time is a classic

[@MayaD773]

He just said she can’t sing he ain’t wrong 😂

[@whoudini08]

Melyssa’s face at the 2:40:04 mark when Flip was tweaking 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@samuelsglover]

I agree with Mos Def, Drake's basically a Taylor Swift that raps

[@guwop93]

NO he just drake 1 of a kind thats it the best musician on the planet he’s nobody else

[@MelodylRoots]

@@guwop93 Musician? What instruments does he play? Drake's cheerleaders are really something else lol

[@DonTrump2024]

Bunch of fake woke mat riders y’all sound like

[@PabloAmour]

@@MelodylRootsshit kinda scary

[@310percentage]

​@@MelodylRootsvocals are an instrument technically in musical terms but I get what y'all mean. His versatility and range makes him an outstanding artist sonically. Cuh meant artist most likely 😂😅

[@tyroneross401]

Just a reminder Kendrick won a Pulitzer. There’s no more crossover than that and he gets zero slander. Joe was right.

[@Just6lake]

Ish thinking Kanye only been political in the past 5 years is hilarious when "all falls down" came out in 03-04

[@TheKondinho]

Ish tends to have a low opinion of Kanye. Comes off as hate.

[@michaelharris601]

The 1st Class, Mixed nut take on Ari was Dave Chapelle level genius 😆

[@shanteyoustay8049]

The young joc for the bday dance is crazy lol great show

[@FatCryBaby]

The Pod World is NOTHING without THE JBP‼️

[@ChrisFluhnoy]

1:43:05 the gulp after Joe said meat salad was wicked 😭

[@BLKGURL_GOLDMOUFMISSES]

Flipp Energy feels beautiful this episode ❤

[@c.cfellton3105]

I think he reads the comments and realized we weren't feeling good about his presence. He seemed disgruntled, and we wanted happy flip, so he brought it out.

[@BLKGURL_GOLDMOUFMISSES]

@@c.cfellton3105couldn’t agree more

[@BigdadiSixty9GTC]

Roots on ice, would be wild as hell

[@jrcolacola]

Every time a new pod is posted, I check to see where Ish and Mel are positioned on the thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂

[@BoutBizness11]

That’s petty lol

[@mahoganysweets67]

It's always next to each other no matter what! They are not trying to keep their affair low 😂😂😂 and ish girl just had a baby, you know he backed up! Too bad Mel willing to be a side, she think she can take him from ole girl cause she white but men of any race with any race usually ain't leaving especially if kids involved! Don't matter how much prettier, smarter or successful you are unless you all 3 and got a better attitude, funner, more respectful and supportive! Idk tho. I don't think they really cheating tho...yet but mel did think she could take him and probably still do cause she don't know any better

[@Anime_lover490]

Yooo Ice with fur boots killing me 😂😂😂

[@tmc2710]

Best episode so far this year.. everyone was involved and funny 😂

[@jayn.6397]

Hawaiian Carpet Salesman is wild 😂😂😂

[@Eclectic_City]

Flip took an Ady, shot if Patron, and said fuck it 😂

[@axa5005]

Joe with the good fit ! ‘ you look good ‘ in my Flip voice

[@chona5101]

THE WIG WIZARD took me out!!!!!😂😂😂😂

[@triibemod]

JPB standing on business, the most consistent 💪🏾🫡

[@davonnlastique]

🤔🧐 JPB…Joe Podcast Budden??

[@rudymccloud1037]

Excellent episode…conscious level w Mos Def and then ended it with some black joy celebrating 🥳 Ish’s Birthstrong - a dynamic podcast!! Love it from 🇯🇲

[@dancemusikk]

Because Drake isn’t expanding his fan base. He gained a NEW fan base that appreciates pop music more. His hip hop fans at the beginning dwindled when he went the pop route. So the issue isn’t him trying to appeal to new people, it’s him not caring that he lost his appeal with older hip hop fans.

[@DashDapper]

Perfect answer

[@Rafofmanny]

Joe clowning over footwear is wild when he’s got the yellow gout comforters

[@johnm2447]

Labeling Mel as a “mean-yah” is perfect 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Blush210]

15 mins in and the vibes are amazing. Love this energy

[@auraholyultimababybaby9367]

Mos Def is right 💯%

[@CalmingNetwork]

Mixed Nuts killed me 😂

[@7kuro7hyo7]

30:04 To argue Ice's point here; If that is the case then it should not be called hip-hop anymore. They should find a new name to what is being done today if it's so far removed from it's origin that the people from it's Genesis don't recognize it. That's what's happened to every form of music to bring the next evolution to this point Jazz, blues, R&B , Rock and all it's different forms. Why do we keep calling something that does not reflect the essence of it's name as Hip-Hop?

[@jeromejenkins151]

Because this is all being done to kill hip hop. It's not being done to create an evolution like they claim. If it was about evolution like they claim they wouldn't mind it being called something else. What they want and "They" being suburban corny dudes that could never relate to hip hop from its inception want is to kill hip hop because they don't fit in. These people that want Drake to be seen as hip hop really just want hip hop to die because they can't find a place in it in its original form.

[@dianeross4522]

Absolutely. I was sitting here thinking, but Ice if it evolved beyond its origin in almost every way. Its no longer HIP-HOP. It is Pop. It is KPOP. It is whatever name you tag on it but it is not Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is a cultured based genre of music that falls under a much larger umbrella of culture. Madonna could never claim country music. Adele will never be R&B. Lizzo won't be Opera. If any of that did miraculously happen the genre won't change just the artist. Drake left hip-hop musically and culturally. Ice's take is off...

[@ta3thecr3atorreacts88]

Yoooooo I haven’t gotten through the pod yet! Been a long work day buuuuut let me tell ya! Flip is killing the beginning of this pod! 🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣 on 1!

[@guywithacamera8414]

Joe was waiting to bring the tweety bird vibe out 😂😂

[@gigiwoo8559]

😂I kinda like the fit tho , I’d wear it but I’m a grl .

[@axa5005]

2:54:34 this show is THE GREATEST 😂😂😂

[@Etpsenior7ohFoe]

Flip: “you ugly af! But you look good tho, salute “ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 only dude that’ll clown you ass and follow it up the “you look good “ 😂

[@cheriselundy415]

I love when he acts a fool then says salute 😂😂😂

[@fuhyou3223]

“Meat Salad” sounds like the title of Jussee Smollett’s next movie.

[@precise27609]

GM everyone! Let's go JBP!!

[@Schavez98]

“Kane and Abel got one” shout out to Ice!! 😂😂

[@reneemarie87]

Im sorry but so many SKUs is hilarious LMAO

[@OfficialSmuvYSwaVaY]

Lmao the synchronized dance at the end is why I switched from listening to the audio to watching the video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@wallstreet5104]

I think what the conversation was missing is the fact that in the beginning you could consider Drake to be a purist or seeking to be accepted as a great emcee just in hip hop period. Along the way due to his versatility he was considered cheesy by the likes of DMX and others because of his ability and Willingness to go outside of hip hops strict definition, which I have to say there is an art form that is hip hop and although it has been redifined by the machine realll hip hop has and always will exist in its essence. In the beginning Drake associated himself with the street elements of hip hop by being on tracks with newcomers and less known artist which made it seem that he was reaching back. But some of his association was questionable due to his perceived intentions on WHY he was reaching back. Some claim he did it to remain hot and also be associated with what’s new as far as the new sounds that were being introduced and to his credit having a keen eye for what’s up and coming is a smart business move as well. What it seems to me that Mos Def aka Yasin Bey was mentioning is that after his acceptance from the hood and American fanfare he became less involved with the struggles of the average black person especially black males could relate to. Black women and fans of course live the brother the male population never fully embraced him because it’s hard to rep or represent a people that you have no true affiliation or history with. His Canadian struggle is not that of a black American male. So the argument is not about his record sales or chart topping sales it’s about who and where is his voice when there are black issues that affect black men. Where does he stand on black lives and police brutality and the effect of drugs in a black neighborhood or black on black violence. These are topics and subjects as a black male that he never addresses in his music or in a post or when the mic is in his hand. Why? He can speak to the female population and make songs of their struggles but the black male he hasn’t to this day addressed at all. I honestly don’t even know if he can or cares too especially at this point because he has the ears of our women, he does make great music for socializing and partying but when it all boils down to it his catalogue has no depth when it comes to black American life or community. I also wanna let it be known that even tho Hip Hop has grown to a worldwide audience it still began as the voice and expression of the experiences of black American male and female youth. That’s why it’s so important to understand the cultural impact and the importance of respecting the origins of Hip Hop and when you go too far from its center you are outside of what it truly Represents therefore you CAN not be considered REAL HOP HOP

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Drake lemmon pepper freestyle charting number 3 in the US … How that ain’t good for Hip Hop i shall never know

[@DTMTD74]

@@AliFrankTheTankit’s Deeper than rap. Period. He is who he is! Like Jay Z said You are who you are before you got here! He does not have a social political bone in his body when it comes to the experience of an American Black man! But he will spew violence and threats in his music!! Maybe because of his gangster affiliation. To be honest I believe Drake may suffer from 1 variations of Negrophobia!

[@SoloStudioss]

@@AliFrankTheTank get his beef out ya mouth fam, it ain’t healthy. Drake is obviously hip hop, because hip hop is a genre with different kinds of artists under it. You, the bozo riding his meat and this dodo above you that wrote an entire 5 page essay trying to say he isn’t are both some lame mfs, get a grip and blow it fr.

[@kabelotshita4510]

I don’t think that’s fair well written for sure but I think he himself said it that he respects artists who can speak outside of themselves but he said he can’t his music relates to him his experiences and struggles I think his had a huge difficulty speaking outside of himself and that’s okay it was never his type of music to make . But expecting him to talk on such subjects even in posts isn’t a fair assessment his shared his piece before , he has supported it’s just more so behind closed doors , there’s variable charitable organisations he supports but aside from that wanting someone who grew up from all walks of life to specifically just focus on black struggle is an impossibilty this is a diverse human who grew up both whites and blacks and more actually and yes he identifies as black but ultimately wanted to show love and support to everyone isn’t a crime. Sometimes the whole world doesn’t need to know your doing something nice why should he seek that validation that’s weird

[@stylezpinero7416]

DMX left $16K behind for 10 kids to share. With all his Cultural impact he had, he died a Pauper. Knocking others who are Feeding their Families Better is and will always be Wack. Pick up a Microphone & Address the issues you are talking about, why Pressure someone else too when you can also do it...

[@mikewazowski6070]

yo, joe looking like andre 3000’s wizard brother 🤠

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Mf def has a flute 😂😂😂😂

[@mikewazowski6070]

@@AliFrankTheTank 😂😂😂

[@celf994]

Flip does alot of podding about the podcast but nothing else. No comments on sports, music, movies, tv shows, relationships (and he’s married). Guests come on he on mute. He dont even try to research this stuff before coming on the show. Unprofessional as hell. If he not talkin about himself and a contract he is lost up there. Just give him his improper improv show and get him off the main pod. He has been terrible lately.

[@naysaidso8802]

My exact thoughts lately

[@JamaalMills]

A character like him is needed just not him

[@carlitoswave951]

i been thinking this sentiment since they started the improv pod 🤦🏿 his banter ain’t enough to hang with the rest of em

[@seandon7022]

He’s trolling lol he knows a lot of rappers and was one himself.

[@JamaalMills]

@@seandon7022 being a lil loose with “rapper “😂😂

[@mahoganysweets67]

I like joe where Waldo outfit! He killing the Freddy Kruger 2024 collection Update, right after writing this flip start going in 😂😂😂

[@Mariners206]

Bro 😂😂😂💀😂

[@_NativeEdition_]

God bless anyone that can sit and listen to Drake, y’all got some different ears

[@jeromejenkins151]

Yeah...we call those ears tone def😂

[@rodneyscott5450]

Well.. Y'all Joe Budden fans actually listen to his awful music...So listening to Drake shouldn't be too bad 😂

[@nflfangirl19]

Amen!

[@SincerelyVainVirgo]

Flip was giving short yellow bus energy with that intro for Joe! 😂

[@Since75]

Whatever talk Joe had with Flip after the last pod had ZERO effect on Flip’s performance.

[@courtlandwilliams9044]

Parks-“if she sounds like a muppet I’m gonna tell him” 😭🤣

[@fik006]

Drake is popstar, not even in the MC conversation 😂😂😂

[@prettyelb19]

The young joc dance got me crying 😭 😂😂😂great pod

[@behavingbetterco]

I think we forget that Drake is Canadian and bi-racial.

[@jamesmcclaren9759]

He black. They shot it him in Degrasse.

[@mahoganysweets67]

​@@jamesmcclaren9759😂😂😂 you stooopit! 😭😭 put him in a wheelchair for 5 seasons! Lmbo

[@LoudDAO]

Joe’s intro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 “wig wizard”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@skimasktheslumpdog97]

what most deff was saying was no laughing matter. Unfortunately media is based around “can we sell this” so joe laughed but we as a people need to have a real understanding of the everlasting cycle that we are trapped in and laughing will only slow that process. We have to keep pushing against the tide.

[@CharlieBrown247]

Mos was spittin missiles

[@Kody-hf6eh]

The reason people won't come at Kendrick like they do Drake is because Kendrick is a real MC who makes dope albums that real Hip-Hop fans like. Drake will always be an easy target because he doesn't write and makes pop songs.

[@lildeeee]

all that you said is understandable, but y’all took the ghostwriting narrative to far. Drake got a few lines here or there. Which boils down to dude can actually write lyrics himself period. You can't ignore that he can & does write his own but every now & again just gets a little help when he mad busy..

[@londiwekhumalo7089]

Not letting Joe get his bit off(pause) was GOLD😭😭😭

[@brandonjones836]

I've watched this 3 hour pod 3 times. 💯 Time flies when it's a good episode

[@raygoody2262]

Ice said “what you do the mash potatoe”???😅😅😅

[@AshlyMonet]

Blunt + coffee JBP 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@GuyDollarSignDance]

The Yung Joc dance at the end solidified the pod as the best Pod on KZbin hahaha

[@broabc66]

Yooo Flip said he wanna throw cake in Ish face. Mad wild

[@TheSvmurai]

Mos was saying that hip-hop is starting away from its foundation, and that, without that foundation the empire (hip-hop) will begin to crumble. And we are seeing that reality NOW

[@blackhippiericky]

I listened to this yesterday and fast forward RIGHT to the end to see the dancing.. I couldn’t wait

[@allcityblks]

Love how Joe breaks down the Mos Def/Drake issue. Great discussion.

[@narutouk14]

Joe looking like a luxurious Hawaiian bumblebee and I ain't mad at it lol

[@datdamdeeallen]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@almostamazing2727]

Hotline Bling was a Target song for the ages!

[@enescohuntejr]

Joe best fit ever ! HOF. 🤝

[@Ladiesfirst321]

Right

[@JoeWavy]

Great Episode! Had me rolling 😅

[@ironthronebullyz506]

Man I learn a new word from Mel every POD 😂

[@datdamdeeallen]

Facts😂

[@Ladiesfirst321]

This

[@itsjay6655]

That time after time remix tho! 😆 🤣 😂

[@Teddy_z_]

Funny how y’all talk about drake like he’s this big talented writer. All his shit written. He’s literally just the voice of a machine.

[@streetsaandr]

What brother Yasiin Bey is speaking on, in totality, was about what will these pop artists will talk about and who will listen to them when the capitalist society crumbles. People like Drake can't speak to the people or on behalf of the people when the stuff hits the fan. Hip-hop comes from the ground swell, and Mos knows he don't represent the ground, the streets. Great point Joe with using Kendrick and Cole and how they're still revered amongst the OG's and MC's and the people!