The Joys of Researching Tanks.

This actually went up on the WoT Console channel a couple of years ago, but it seems not too many people go there. So, re-posting here. Although this primarily refers to World of Tanks, the problems inherent in research applies to basically any game or even scale modelling.
Since this video was made, the priorities in game design and balance may have changed.
The address for that bookstore, by the way.
Librairie de l'Escadron
Rue de L'Escadron 1
B-1940 Etterbeek
Brussels.

[@legiondude4067]

"Since this video was made, the priorities in game design and balance may have changed." lol *shouts internally*

[@ElvenMans]

Yea, we can see that ingame heh.

[@KR4K40]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@Sreven199]

Always happy to watch the full ad on a long Chieftain video

[@TheMasterOfCornedy]

and even click on it once

[@pedrodefilippovannucci3676]

Lol same

[@903lew]

T95, Epic kemp of bush.

[@billradloff1919]

T95, hide and seek champion for over 20 years!

[@Reddsoldier]

They should give it crazy camo rating to reflect this meme. T28/95 king of dumb plane

[@Serratus648]

Can't find hat photo :(

[@Serratus648]

@@defendingchampion Thx :D

[@roguegen5536]

You have 95 likes for the T95 sir

[@Hebdomad7]

Another 40min lecture by the Chieftain? Awesome.

[@luki97z]

I'm 4 minutes in and already laughing at the NapkinWaffe, this is gonna be a good one.

[@freppie_]

what is it?

[@DarthEarp]

My copy of "Can Openers" just arrived yesterday, and I have greatly enjoyed reading it. Thanks for all you have done, and keep up the good work.

[@WarmasterDeath]

rather jealous, that book looked amazing!

[@Shiraumere]

"wargaming wants you, to buy more bundles"

[@nacho71ar]

Lol... but how do u think they pay this research...

[@Shiraumere]

By not paying tax and selling overpowered tier 8 premiums...in bundles. =D

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

Fascinating to see all that goes on behind the scenes! Color me impressed.

[@demoncard1180]

Watching these videos while modelling, I find a lot of relatable points. In particular, the contradictory nature or patchiness of sources when recreating things that are hard to find or don't exist any more.

[@ret7army]

Glad you had the qualifier in there about the operator manuals. don't know about then but in the 90's I was an instructor at Ft Gordon, we had new equipment coming out. We were given copies of the proposed Technical Manual to review, and promptly found all sorts of errors between what the manual said and what existed in the equipment. Dimensions, weights, all sorts of things. We wrote detailed critiques which were promptly ignored ... hope things were better back then.

[@karahiggins2753]

Really miss new content, but a repost of missed content is definitely better than none.

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Intereview was from a couple of years ago, making reference to the book Can Openers, which finally got published last year (2017.) How time flies.

[@jacobfarley434]

I'm gonna make an unpopular statement, and stress the importance of archived information like effects of mold on 2.5 ton trucks in the Pacific theater for the long term storage and readiness of equipment, like the storing of equipment in Norway or other locations in the event of large scale war. Not interesting or relevant to war gaming, but interesting and relevant to real world.

[@KentuckyFriedChildren]

*n o*

[@Charon-5582]

Only highly important and specific factors should be noted. Severe storage failures and the like not obvious things...

[@paymo14]

"Wargaming wants you" Mom, they've finally lost it.

[@Szalami]

When you started talking about the napkinwaffe I was just about to comment on the rather dubious historical accuracy of the japanese heavy tanks. But then again you are right, I can't prove you wrong.

[@Nekrosmas]

These are the best Chieftan videos. Love it :D

[@Autobotmech]

Thanks Chief, always enjoy listening to you talk, wish I could get a job as a Library technician at the archives , would be able to help out cataloguing their.

[@torbai]

We need an "Inside the Chieftain's hatch: M4A3 76W HVSS" video.......

[@homiespaghetti1522]

Get out ya Weeb

[@torbai]

I really think the M4A3 76W HVSS is a wonderful topic: Later version of the upper glacis, Ford GAA engine, T23 turret, 76mm gun M1, Wet ammunition stowage, and Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension. There are so many interesting things that have not been covered yet in this channel. And it could be an excellent comparison to the British Firefly.

[@Paciat]

worldoftanks.com/en/news/chieftain/The_Chieftains_Hatch_Firefly/ worldoftanks.com/en/news/chieftain/The_Chieftains_Hatch_Firefly2/ worldoftanks.com/en/news/chieftain/The_Chieftains_Hatch_Firefly3/

[@maxwellclark6992]

Paciat that is not an A3/76 HVSS

[@azgarogly]

Great vid, I'd like to see more up to date things like that.

[@flakpanzer_gepard]

this lecture is very important because it showa the mechanisms of how WG implementED into the game. I posted and forced it among our Russian community and gave a tranlsated version. one of my fellows Yuri Pasholok accepted it. I wish WG act more like Mr Moran said. I wish Mr Moran beat Murazor endly up. thx

[@BullettiAPE]

Excellent presentation, thanks!

[@anaetadesireechandler4122]

Awesome explanation. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ the presentation. So true.

[@tarjei99]

Illuminating and enjoyable. thanks!!

[@nikirki25]

"Mild Violence" Are long talks violent nowadays?

[@danielsteger8456]

very violent burns made by the chieftain

[@luisnunes2010]

KZbin hates history in general and military hist in particular.

[@snowstalker36]

Gets to the bit about upcoming WoT changes: "Wow, this is an old video."

[@zacharyingham638]

Can you do an inside the hatch at the Perola tank museum in Finland?

[@ruggetuf]

Thanks for pointing me out where that bookstore was in the original video. It's a terrible shop for my wallet, but love to visit whenever I'm in Brussels.

[@pedromonteiro5012]

ief kaizer was also curious about this - what's the shop name and address?

[@johnallison820]

My first detail at A/2-1Cav/2AD was to hump the excess 20mm barrels for the M114s to be disposed of. The M114s were already gone and replaced by M151 MUTTS. As a Sheridan crewman, I was depressed.

[@warrenchambers4819]

Flying in UH-1s over many Army bases it was always a surprise to see just what hides amongst the bushes. Anyone going out of Ft. Campbell KY headed out directly over CV Bastogne ever spot those 2 Mopar wing cars? Light blue and a white one if I remember right. Hidden from the road in the middle of the corn field.

[@Finderskeepers.]

At a high level , the accuracy detail of the game is great whilst balancing the fun requirement. It also shows the development of the tank very well. So when they need to buff/Neff a tank, they find evidence.

[@JumpSeeker]

I once spent three days at the Bovington archives researching Churchill tanks. Absolutely fascinating, but trying to find specific information was a a bit of a pain.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I was very surprised how little they had on Firefly. I presume most of it is in Kew now.

[@JumpSeeker]

I can imagine a lot of documents go missing. Especially seeing how much they charge to use the photo copier per page.

[@raiichikawa4338]

The thing is, Wargaming has introduced the main battle tank 70 in WoT, all information is available, for example, that the tank reaches about 60 kmh with 1500 hp, so really really fast, BUT he only reaches 50 kmh has only 800 hp and reaches the 55 kmh once every 5 battles. In short, all the information was there, but it makes the tank worse even though it is underbalanced, but why...

[@NLtom]

When your playing War Thunder while listening to the nicest WoT ad ever :P

[@rafaeloda]

While driving a Chieftain.

[@stuffzie8329]

@@rafaeloda And non-penning R3s.

[@AHappyCub]

@@stuffzie8329 while getting strafed by annoying ass AH-1Gs

[@markvine3814]

Time index 24:50. Is the Chieftain tank going to be made available to PC players in the US and EU? Thanks.

[@pedromonteiro5012]

Wonderful speech!

[@wereking69]

Karl ? Chaffee racing, now that was tons of fun

[@VonGrav]

The_Cheftain Can you post a link to the picture of the T95 that you describe in: 10:58 Im really curious and cant find it :

[@kehrer1993]

yeah me too

[@kehrer1993]

hey, I did :) forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/344994-t28s-combat-deployment/

[@Halinspark]

Oh, I subscribed to you specifically and not World of Tanks because Im only interested in your stuff and not patch info and dev blogs and such. Im guessing a lot of other people did the same thing.

[@orbitalair2103]

Yup, as a scale modeler and engineer I am fascinated by how they were made and how they work, and the details of the interiors and engines.

[@Ray-lf1eo]

orbitalair ugh I should get back into making models

[@tonymirarchi]

Awesome camouflage on the T-95

[@dillonpierce7599]

Can we get a modern version of this video with up to date priorities on things? 🤔

[@MrGeorocks]

Have you shared your notes on each boxes contents with the national archives?

[@kehrer1993]

for anyone wanting to see the pic of the t95 he is talking about: forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/344994-t28s-combat-deployment/

[@augnkn93043]

markus kehrer Thank you!

[@Zamolxes77]

Sounds like T-95 was best tank destroyer in existence, by an extremely large margin. It kemp bush for 27 years and nobody could spot it !

[@TotalRookie_LV]

Of all tank simulators I've played only two: 1) old 1980s "Abrams Tank" (I guess, that was the name), it's pretty much unplayable now, as the speed of the game was tight not to the timer, but to the clock speed of the processor, imagine the difference of speed of 286 processor and modern multicore CPU - when you try to traverse a turret, it spins like a propeller on a helicopter. Thus the only was is to use special software to emulate old PC or throttle your processor several hundreds of times down in speed. 2) T-72 "Balkans on Fire" Anyway, even there games were sort of arcades, still games, I'm not a big fan or real simulators.

[@baastex]

2:20 It's in the game as a frech tank called the Revalisé

[@MrMarci878]

Revalorisé*

[@guiltyofbias8818]

A inside the chieftains hatch on the t95 would be awesome

[@brianwyters2150]

Quick question: Why are some hatches designed so small and tight?

[@DatBoyGuru]

this is an awesome video, the T-95 found in a bush you mentioned was actually a T-28 no? found in 1974 if i'm not mistaken

[@DeosPraetorian]

DatBoyGuru the t28 and t95 are the same thing. It was renamed after the war

[@ADudOverTheFence1]

Technically the T28 is a T95 without the extra tracks so it fits flatbed railroad cars to transport it.

[@Kyle-gw6qp]

@@ADudOverTheFence1 nope. Video games use the different names to differentiate between the different modes but in reality both names refer to the same vehicle.

[@darronhedges5873]

Just as i pick up 'Hutchinsons pictorial history of war' 18 volumes for this very reason.The New Ryefield panther with interior with options for 4 variants,doesnt show examples of what theyll look like though..I suppose ill have to blindly follow the instructions or explore the joy of researching tanks....The joy of.....where do i remember that from?

[@MadaraUchiha55910]

I've got a for you Nicolas if the devs don't implement tank that they don't have any info on, then what's up with the mercenary tanks? Bdecause I've neve of The Machiche tank

[@ARCNA442]

Interesting video as always, but I can't say that it has aged well considering the recent additions to the game.

[@3DBlockBuster]

Nicholas, thanks for posting your video, great stuff. I have a few questions: 1. I came across of some of whole bunch of your bootlegged videos in other language of you reviewing WWII fighters like P-51, P-38 and ect. Can you point me in a detection of where you have them. I tried to poke around this channel with "no joy"... 2. I do have interest in WWII aviation as much as in tanks, but for the life of me I can't find CREDIBLE statistics on Causalities and Victories, or perhaps sorties flown of WWII broken down by countries and aircraft type. For Example I know that P-51 shut down around 5000 German aircraft, while for a loss of 3000 P-51, and ect. It is interesting for me to compare where was more German fighter losses in the Easter front or Western front, in perspective of how many Soviets aircraft losses. The reason is that lately a lots of Russians trying to diminish Allies contribution into defeating Hitler in WWII prior operation Overlord.(I know, its not a novel debate, but never the less very interesting subject). BTW any input from anybody greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

They were only ever released in Russian, for whatever reason. I never saw an original (english) version. I'm not sure I can particularly help you with question 2.

[@3DBlockBuster]

Thank you! Keep 'em coming. I would love to see those videos in English though.

[@WarmasterDeath]

a crying shame that. those videos would be mighty interesting

[@dcoppedge06]

@The_Chieftain big fan from Texas keep up the hard work!. Also are you, or anyone from wargaming ever going to do an inside the hatch/tank on the su100y?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Not beyond possibility, though I have to say that a return to Kubinka is not in my near future for the next year or two that I know of.

[@dcoppedge06]

The_Chieftain alright, thanks for the reply, keep up the hard work! Regards.

[@calvingreene90]

Does the archive require that people that access the data provide information of what was in the box for future historians to use.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

No, it does not require it. However, it is not turned away if you offer it up. I've had a number of people ask me for my notes, which I've forwarded freely.

[@calvingreene90]

I suppose that does make it more accurate.

[@dicaxtyche]

All I want to know is where do I get that banner!?!?!?

[@matthayward7889]

“The problem with doing this in public is that it takes away a lot of your latitude” I’ll bet!! 😂

[@billradloff1919]

I will say, seeing the comments you made about the Japanese heavies and their armor being "not Maus levels", then thinking about their armor now...its hilarious!

[@dantreadwell7421]

The Tank had learned the first lesson of not being seen. Not standing up.

[@drrocketman7794]

T95...that driver knows how to Bush camp like a boss!

[@darthcalanil5333]

A video with Chieftain? the longer the better!

[@torbai]

Yeah, it is the longer the better. And it is quite sad that the previous Sherman video, which is clearly the best video about Sherman tank, could not be accessed now.

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

10:30 "This is Mister T-95 of Fort Belvoir, Virginia. Mister T-95, will you stand up please." *pause* "Mister T-95 has learnt the first lesson of not being seen; not to stand up. However, he has chosen a very obvious piece of cover" *boom* ... *BOOM* ... "CUT! Will someone go get Mister Nisbit, let's get this bloody scene done..."

[@lonesurvivalist3147]

I wanna see the archive info on the wt auf e100...

[@thomaslinton1001]

Chief, Arnold was a tank driver in the Austrian Army and has purchased the tank he drove. It's reportedly derivable. Arnold!!!!

[@hannahranga]

With your records of what/where's in the archives is that a personal/wargaming thing or is that data that getting passed back to the archivists and other historians?

[@MegaloHorse]

Have you ever visited any of militarry archives in Balkans? There are good sources for tanks being produced after the ww2 and some rely amazing stuf about reasoning for creating some specifications.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

I have not, no. Besides, I'm sure Bojan will have trawled them...

[@HirooKoslov]

I could care less about world of tanks, but I like your content in particular

[@Crimsonedge1]

I can agree with the fun to a game... World of tanks is more of a fun arcade shooter than full on simulation. Moving over to War Thunder, I learnt that the hard way. In world of tanks, traverse speeds as well as track speeds are all enhanced so you can rush in at speed and play it almost like an FPS. Moving over to realistic battles in War Thunder though and I spent the first several hours of gameplay dying a lot. Rush in in world of tanks and you can often win. Rush in with War Thunder and its likely that you get sniped from over a kilometer away as unlike world of tanks where enemies can be hidden only a hundred or so meters away until they're detected, with war thunder, it's pure line of sight. Doesn't matter if the tank is 3 kilometers away... If there is no intervening terrain, you will be seen. All that in mind, War thunder is a nice in-between game between the arcade of World of Tanks and the pure simulation of Steel Beasts.

[@c0ketehwhale]

Dat Masters of Orion joke. If it's any consolation, I laughed.

[@andrewp8284]

Just chilling on the porch with a cigar watching The Chieftain. Hard life.

[@mostlymilitarystuff8436]

what's the gun depression made me think of the LT-432

[@spitezor]

"And then we have scraping the barrel" Ah yes, tovarisch! You have found the Soviet Sekret Archive of Super Secret, Secret Tank!

[@christopherchambers1690]

If I may ask. What is the name of the bookstore you mentioned?

[@HiTechOilCo]

The_Chieftain is great! Shared to my Facebook wall.

[@jakobwollrath1555]

next time you might want to show the slides a bit longer. maybe you could have you talking in the corner and the rest could be the slide

[@azgarogly]

though youtube has a pause button and slides in the corner are not much readable anyway

[@Halinspark]

azgarogly They said put him in the corner and use the rest of the screen for the slides.

[@douglasmiller8607]

i had an "encyclopedia of german tanks and armor vehicles" that was published in late 50s early 60s? it was written in english with german titles on the photographs. i bought it late 60s very early 70s but it included Everything the germans built, designed or proposed during the war. i believe there was a proposed Porsche design of a concept T-34 copy.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Not sure about Porsche, but the Daimler-Benz VK 30.02 could be described as such.

[@douglasmiller8607]

thanks for the reply!🤗 it was a very informative book to an early teen fascinated with ww history. ive learn more on this channel than covered in history classes.

[@richardjstuart3978]

Wait? Masters of Orion? When does that video come out.

[@collinfreese2987]

Where was the book store in Belgium? , just asking.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Librairie de l'Escadron Rue de L'Escadron 1 B-1940 Etterbeek Brussels.

[@martinklepper83]

Poor Chieftan, that Masters of Orion joke was funny.

[@douglasmiller8607]

when will the chieftain do a study on the Pacific amtracks?

[@readhistory2023]

They built 2 T28's. They got a bit further on them than paper.

[@captiannemo1587]

the plan was to build 5.

[@asdim11]

he is talking about the T28 prototype tank, thats the turreted version of the T28. It never got built

[@readhistory2023]

@@asdim11 K. Thanks. I'd never seen the plans for the turreted version, just the US the t28's that were stugs on steroids.

[@duchessskye4072]

Would you mind linking that thread? I felt like my 5 minutes of solid laughing just imagining it wasn't enough :D

[@popluluful]

Can someone tell me the name of that book store? I'd love to go there!

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Libraries de l’Escadron, on Rue de l’Escadron

[@uclearwhale]

Why were the questions cut out?

[@BWIENS789]

We need an Inside the Chieftain's Hatch for the M1 Abrams

[@kalashnikovdevil]

I'd buy the hell out of detailed archives from wargaming Even if they were physical encyclopedias. Hell especially if they were. I'd buy the WOWS books without even thinking about it and I'd give the WOT a hard look too.

[@TheTISEOMan]

I've always noticed The Chieftain makes mention of the Archives. Does he mean the National Archives? Or they have an in-house thing going on, I'd really like access to it and do research on my own.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Yes, the National Archives, mainly in College Park, Md. There is a WG collected archive as well, but I tend not to use it as it’s mainly in languages I don’t speak.

[@TheTISEOMan]

Oh boy. That's a good 10 hour drive from where I'm from. I'm guessing there's no online resources I could rely upon?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

The good stuff is never easy. Don’t feel bad, I have to fly in from California

[@TheTISEOMan]

Christ almighty. Those expenses add up don't they? Those peanuts better be worth it then.

[@naordie]

For those non-gamers here complaining. He is paid by WOT and is representing WOT, so quit complaining. He has plenty of non-gamer specific info to share, enjoy that!

[@slicklandy7819]

Is this the 'invisible, undiscoverable' tank you mentioned? worldoftanks.com/dcont/fb/imagesforarticles/chieftains_hatch/randompics/t28field.jpg

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Yep

[@slicklandy7819]

Now if only my local town council were as blind, I could buy myself a tank and park it behind my 4ft high hedge.

[@funkyromero]

Showing the actual presentation slides for only a second, somewhat intresting choise. I guess showing the presenter pointing at the big screen is much more informative :D

[@xirensixseo]

Thanks mate now im gonna get steel beasts

[@malusignatius]

The T-95 was Kemping Bush?

[@m10bob22]

I do not play this particular game, but very much love how this Major (retired) has so accurately identified so many of the so-called "grognards"...the self-proclaimed "experts" who have never been closer to a battlefield environment than the dark environs of an air conditioned movie house. Have been involved in wargaming since 1960, in one form or another, and have helped research for many games, by some great people who did not know where to look. Have learned so much from this series in the "Chieftain's Hatch".. Thank you so much. (2/503rd, Ranger, U.S.Army...Info analyst.)etc, blah,blah,blah.

[@jeffm1463]

Where is this Brussels metro military book store??

[@anther4520]

Check the video description.

[@Zirkobi]

And the bell button has been clicked :)

[@Nucleus281]

lol they take accurate information huh, so why does the maus have more than 260mm of turret armor?

[@SleepySkull1]

It took me 40 minutes to find out I already watch this years ago. fucc

[@oliverkromann1902]

i love how they talk about removing fv4202 because of wrong armor values compared to the real tank, but that wg is still able to release "paper" tanks like the 268 v4(version broken) armor values frontally better than maus top speed greater than some t10 meds as well as the hp/t to achieve such speeds under average dpm and accuracy but sufficient dpm and armor to face people at a range of 50m or less. generally just a broken tank like we have tanks in this game like the grille 15(not historically accurate but still terrible because fuck german tanks) trades in all of it's armor and a bit of speed to have a what in-game looks like an amazing gun, but only really works on stationary targets when you factor in "hidden/soft" stats tanks.gg/compare/obj-268-4?t=grille-15~m48-patton~e-50-m~maus

[@anther4520]

+Oliver Kromann You can just bet that if the FV4202 were a Soviet tank it wouldn't have gone anywhere, but as it was a decadent capitalist British tank it was therefore entirely fair game for the chop.

[@VMEcycle6]

Steel Beasts is not fun not just because it's a simulation. But more because of it lacks of fun playable contents. I haven't play the game for years. They may added some more contents today that I don't know of. But when I was still playing it. There were only a handful repetitive single missions in that game and there was no campaign. And a mission in Steel Beasts is not even a game, its more like an exam you're taking. It just set up a scenario that you need to fight through. And at the end you get a statistic score. I remember playing this mission: something like stopping a Russian attack on this European map by using a couple Leopard 2 tank companies. I spend like 2~3 hrs in the mission and at the end I got something like a score of 75. What that means I don't know. I have no interests to find out. Then I opened the next mission. It's the same scenario but changed my tanks to M1A1. So it like the same exams, you just repeat them again and again. Or if you use the mission editor, you just create your own exam to test yourself. I wasn't a good student, so yeah, definitely not a big fan. I played sim games since Jane's Longbow Apache. My point is, even't it is a military sim game, there can still be objectives in the mission and progression through the missions.

[@derrickstorm6976]

"Japanese heavy tanks will not have Maus-levels of armor" Haharharharhar good one

[@anther4520]

And then they nerfed the Tier 5 Japanese superheavy by halving it's top speed and removing its top gun, and in so doing completely ruined what was actually a fairly half-decent tank that wasn't especially super-OP at all, at least not like its higher tier cousins all are.

[@JayEss414]

nice one m8