The King of Curses Isn’t a Curse | Jujutsu Kaisen

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manganimist

5 ай бұрын

Sukuna is NOT a cursed spirit!
#jjk #jujutsukaisen #jjkmanga #anime #manga #sukuna #ryomensukuna #sukunaryomen #manganimist

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@slicksilver2961
@slicksilver2961 5 ай бұрын
So basically: Sukuna was so good at PvP that he logged off for a couple seasons (hopeful for new metas, updates and stronger players)only to come back(from time to time?) and still be too good at PvP. Man. Thats rough.
@qururox
@qururox 5 ай бұрын
he came back with another player's account (Yuji) but then saw Megumi's account and wanted it for himself
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 5 ай бұрын
Yeah basically
@zam7z20
@zam7z20 4 ай бұрын
Yeah just to get a peek and learn about the new version of the same game​. got surprised when seeing a new champion and bro got kenjaku in his league too@@qururox
@helphelphelphelpmehelphelphelp
@helphelphelphelpmehelphelphelp 5 ай бұрын
I kid you not, he turned himself into a finger, funniest shit I've ever seen
@Solikap
@Solikap 5 ай бұрын
This misunderstanding heavily warps the image of Sukuna in the readers's brains. If Sukuna was a cursed spirit, that would imply that he got killed by something. When that is definitely not the case. In fact, it's the opposite, Sukuna agreed to become a cursed object by Kenjaku because it meant he could experience the golden age of jujutsu he once conquered before. He wanted another battlefield where he could test his skills, get stronger and enjoy his living. "The King Of Curses" title mainly refers to the fact he is the king of cursed energy, not cursed spirits.
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 5 ай бұрын
Can't it be both since even creatures made of negative energy says he's a different type of evil
@Solikap
@Solikap 5 ай бұрын
@@samuraitadpole5459 Could be. But being the king of cursed spirits implies that you are also a cursed spirit. So it doesn't fit that well. A better example would be the queen of cursed spirits, Rika.
@xavmanisdabestest
@xavmanisdabestest 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought he was a cursed spirit until shibuya when he explicitly says (if I was a cursed spirit I'd be dead already) referring to mahoragas positive energy sword
@xavmanisdabestest
@xavmanisdabestest 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought he was a cursed spirit until shibuya when he explicitly says (if I was a cursed spirit I'd be dead already) referring to mahoragas positive energy sword
@xavmanisdabestest
@xavmanisdabestest 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I thought he was a cursed spirit until shibuya when he explicitly says (if I was a cursed spirit I'd be dead already) referring to mahoragas positive energy sword
@thalia5382
@thalia5382 5 ай бұрын
“He’s human” That’s why we don’t marry our family members
@caseyjones8153
@caseyjones8153 5 ай бұрын
That would be an effective argument if his abnormalities were an outright detriment to him in every aspect instead of making him literally better in every aspect than everyone else in terms of combat without having a single downside.
@jcplays1749
@jcplays1749 5 ай бұрын
I mean, one theory of why he looks like that is because he ate one of his siblings, now you can take that any way you want
@uhhhhhhhhh333
@uhhhhhhhhh333 5 ай бұрын
well I think he’s handsome and I’m definitely not Uraume
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 5 ай бұрын
So was Tengen until she "ascended"
@quinnconley9827
@quinnconley9827 5 ай бұрын
It says that when Gojo was born, cursed spirits naturally became stronger and more active in the world. So do you think that Jujutsu sorcerers that were on his level like Yuta Hakari and Yuji in the world got stronger when he died to combat sukuna's strength?
@jcplays1749
@jcplays1749 5 ай бұрын
well I mean, that the theory of why the heian era was the golden age, because sukuna was alive, but I don't think they simply get a buff just from gojo dying, I think that if all of them died and sukuna won, then the sorcerers born after it would be stronger and probably make a second golden age for jujutsu
@quinnconley9827
@quinnconley9827 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know, I'm more so saying that the sorcerers got on gojo's level over time to prepare for his death so that they'd be able to combat stronger beings like sukuna when the time came.
@enma8441
@enma8441 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that also apply to Sukuna since hes also human and technically a sorcerer and a curse.
@bhavya540
@bhavya540 5 ай бұрын
That doesn't mean that when Gojo was born, the cursed simple got powerups Or anything, it's just they got stronger over time to balance the power system of jujutsu world.
@xenoxtrollik4150
@xenoxtrollik4150 5 ай бұрын
I mean higueuma did get op quickly
@abcd00p
@abcd00p 5 ай бұрын
Kenjaku the backshotted one asked :"Do you have balls because you are a male? Or are you a male because you have balls?" The honored one simply answered:" nah, it'd grip"
@Deesnuts-ds3xs
@Deesnuts-ds3xs 5 ай бұрын
💀
@Solikap
@Solikap 5 ай бұрын
And The Backshotted One proclaimed in response, "Stand proud, you are hot."
@Solikap
@Solikap 5 ай бұрын
And they proceeded to do things that shall not be named...
@sachinmaheswari8554
@sachinmaheswari8554 19 күн бұрын
The Lobotomy Kaisen Getting Out Of Hand 💀
@landenx
@landenx 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoy the JJK content man!
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 5 ай бұрын
I'm reminded of when Mahito realized his true form. Perhaps what Sukuna did was similar in that he achieved his utmost potential as a jujutsu sorcerer and as a human being. In a sense, he became a living demi-god and surpassed all others. This would also explain why his true form has a sort of divine look to it with multiple arms, his spear, and so on.
@ronny1x_
@ronny1x_ 5 ай бұрын
dude ur channel is growing so fast
@deadmeme4058
@deadmeme4058 5 ай бұрын
Are you going to try out Jujutsu Kaisen Cursed Clash? By the way, thanks for always giving out amazing information on JJK, you're my go to when i need some questions answered about JJK haha
@keerthan7558
@keerthan7558 5 ай бұрын
bruh i was so shocked when i saw your donation like which mfker donated 20k of their currency , turns out it is just 1.27 USD / 115 INR 💀💀💀. Crazy Inflation your country has
@bhavya540
@bhavya540 5 ай бұрын
​@@keerthan7558fr I thought he gave him 20,000 rupees ☠️, but still much appreciated for his donation.
@adelalovesmadara4062
@adelalovesmadara4062 5 ай бұрын
Rupiah lol
@adelalovesmadara4062
@adelalovesmadara4062 5 ай бұрын
@@keerthan7558It's because of the us in a way so 💀💀💀
@ManganimistYT
@ManganimistYT 5 ай бұрын
My man, thank you for the support! 🙏🏻 I'm definitely interested in checking out Cursed Clash, I don't know if it'll be a day one pickup or anything, but I'd love to play it at some point. And I'm definitely interested in seeing what the complete story of the game is, just to see if theres any clues to glean from it. 👀
@emubeatbox3733
@emubeatbox3733 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully gege will expand sukuna's history more and probably will because we obviously can tell his favorite character is sukuna
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 5 ай бұрын
Gege probably won't do that at all, LMFAO.
@Ulvis_B
@Ulvis_B 5 ай бұрын
Better if don't do that.
@Ulvis_B
@Ulvis_B 5 ай бұрын
Better if don't do that.
@Ulvis_B
@Ulvis_B 5 ай бұрын
Better if don't do that.
@Ulvis_B
@Ulvis_B 5 ай бұрын
Better if don't do that.
@SeaJackson
@SeaJackson 5 ай бұрын
I could’ve sworn I heard somewhere that Sukuna ate cursed spirits while he human and it transformed him into the four armed version.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
The author has confirmed that he was a cannibal who eventually grew to eat cursed spirits. It transforming him is a popular theory.
@lordmike9331
@lordmike9331 5 ай бұрын
If sukuna was a cursed spirit so would kashimo, yorozu, uraume, and all other incarnated sorcerers, as they were also cursed objects at one point. People have a miconception where they think becoming a cursed object makes you a cursed spirit, it doesnt.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
Unlike those Ryomen Sukuna is a symbol of fear who became an imaginary demon. He is a cursed spirit because the public fear of him has elevated him into one, possibly while he was still alive
@sky-oq5mr
@sky-oq5mr 4 ай бұрын
​@@joelsasmadso was Kashimo tho, that's why kenjaku brought him to sukuna and the others just to fight in the culling games. Sukuna was actually a cursed, he stated that when mahoraga hit him. He said it would've killed him if he wasn't in yujis body. Mahoraga 1 shots curses
@AstroThePanda
@AstroThePanda 3 ай бұрын
​@@sky-oq5mr he never stated about being in yuji's body. Where did you people get that from? He literally stated "if i was a cursed spirit" And not "if i wasn't in this brat's body"
@yuvraj..6741
@yuvraj..6741 5 ай бұрын
Are sukuna's marks visible to the characters? (*Jogo says thr marks are still there but the humans all question? When they see sukuns in control over megumi and yuji)
@taruditarudi7373
@taruditarudi7373 5 ай бұрын
Hey man, can you do a video on the versions of Mahoraga? I mean, Mahoraga was ultra buffed by Gege when facing Yorozu(only needs a bunch of attacks from Bug Armor to COMPLETELY adapt to her ENTIRE CT), while against Gojo, it's so meh.
@SneakyBushcamper
@SneakyBushcamper 5 ай бұрын
It’s not plot it’s just the CT’s are very different the more complicated a ct technique the harder it is to adapt limitless is probably the most complicated ct to adapt in all of the series while yorozu’s creation is super simple
@dirrilismixer2556
@dirrilismixer2556 5 ай бұрын
Hey man i would like you to explain Round Deer (megumi's seventh shikigami) And i would like if you would explain these topics related to this shikigami :- 1. Round deer can heal its user, but can he heal itself too? 2. I heard round deer can nullify curse technique (or effects of it or something similar to that) can he really do it? Plus if he can nullify CT so is there a chance he can also nullify domains too? Note : i wanted to sponsor a video (for the same topic) but currently I'm unable to do so, so pls i would like you if you would really explain these things to me
@keerthan7558
@keerthan7558 5 ай бұрын
we don't really know , Gege is yet to explain the abilities of 10 shadows , the shikigami in it , in-depth . All we have been shown is that the Deer can heal , not even sure if it is reverse Cursed technique or another form of healing .
@dirrilismixer2556
@dirrilismixer2556 5 ай бұрын
@@keerthan7558 all of sites show it as RCT
@giles.9862
@giles.9862 5 ай бұрын
Probably not, it only neutralized cursed energy running though Yorozu's liquid metal, so it would neutralize e.g the CE running through Yuji's fists, while it would not neutralize something like infinity as infinity uses cursed energy to "power" it, but doesn't have active cursed energy running through it
@Benzonian612
@Benzonian612 5 ай бұрын
1.) Yes. It is shown during Sukuna's fight against Gojo that Agito(fusion between Nue Totality, Round Deer, and Funeral Tiger) was able to heal itself with RCT to protect itself from Gojo. Since Agito's RCT comes from Round Deer, it's safe to assume that Round Deer can also heal itself. 2.) My understanding is that Round Deer cannot nullify cursed techniques. However, it can nullify cursed energy because it can use RCT. This is seen during Sukuna's fight against Yorozu. Round Deer used its RCT to nullify the cursed energy within Yorozu's liquid metal. Round Deer cannot stop cursed techniques directly like the Inverted Spear of Heaven can.
@dirrilismixer2556
@dirrilismixer2556 5 ай бұрын
@@Benzonian612 but I think agito is just the next or a different level and that's why it can heal itself too, same like he can produce electricity (meaning he can use it In any way) but nue was never a complete electricity manipulater, it's wings were just elecetrofied
@tasuku9124
@tasuku9124 5 ай бұрын
The easiest and biggest evidence that Sukuna isn't a curse is that he can use RCT and heal his injuries with RCT. A curse can heal with normal curse energy (since they made out of negative emotion and all) and they would've exploded if positive energy generated from RCT enters their body (Like what Yuta did to the Cockroach curse).
@apenas_tarso
@apenas_tarso 5 ай бұрын
So TL;DR: Sukuna's whole reason for being a creepy terrorst mf is just because he got bored, alright
@user-sd5oz6sn8i
@user-sd5oz6sn8i 5 ай бұрын
Sukuna's labeled as a Calamity, A really strong curse user. A curse user is a sorcerer who uses jujutsu for evil. A sorcerer is a human.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
Until the become a symbol of fear for the Japanese people, where a cursed spirit version of them can be born, called an imaginary demon. Sukuna, who has been stated to have evolved beyond human or curse and is know as the imaginary demon god, likely became such an entity likely while still alive so instead of forming a separate entity he "ascended".
@jaliun
@jaliun 5 ай бұрын
Thx i feel like everybody keeps forgetting he used to be human
@BlueAsian
@BlueAsian 3 ай бұрын
He still is, Didn't Gojo confirmed that way way back at the beginning, He probably evolved into his four arms, 2 mouths, 4 eyes form from overusing cursed energy or jujutsu,
@RougeLino
@RougeLino 4 ай бұрын
ofc he has multiple arms! HE EATS CURSES AND SORCERERS! he's crazy 😭
@xFullMoonBlood
@xFullMoonBlood 5 ай бұрын
they actually explain this in the anime. the scene where sukuna fight mahoraga sukuna says "if I were a curse spirit this blade would have killed me instantly"
@dr.genocide8045
@dr.genocide8045 5 ай бұрын
If so that's not very clear, I thought he meant it as because he's in yuji's body
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
He says that only because he was in Yuji's body. He mentions that "Cursed Flesh is so boring" when he was first incarnated in Yuji, suggesting he was at one point not sealed way but already a curse.
@gqtuesday
@gqtuesday 5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. You know how hard I been arguing this in the GC?!?!?
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
I'd say your both wrong. He is a cursed object but he is also a cursed spirit, an imaginary demon born of the fear of Ryomen Sukuna. Dying isn't the only way to become a cursed spirit.
@AstroThePanda
@AstroThePanda 3 ай бұрын
​@@joelsasmadliterally wrong
@rkinggamez7718
@rkinggamez7718 2 ай бұрын
@@joelsasmad me wondering how the fuck he can output positive energy via RCT if he truly were a cursed spirit
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 2 ай бұрын
@@rkinggamez7718 Becuase he is in a human's body
@rkinggamez7718
@rkinggamez7718 2 ай бұрын
@@joelsasmad sukuna's a cursed object not a cursed spirit
@REYOMEN-SUKUNA
@REYOMEN-SUKUNA 5 ай бұрын
Well explained 😂
@joaquin7270
@joaquin7270 5 ай бұрын
didnt sukuna say killing never gets boring?
@denhyseni435
@denhyseni435 5 ай бұрын
it would be cool if he was born as a human and sice everyone was terrified of him he became a curse
@lord12jsv68
@lord12jsv68 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't stated that he became a curse, and also cursed objects are not curses
@Nihility_Is_W
@Nihility_Is_W 5 ай бұрын
He isn't a Curse WTF he just turned himself into a Cursed Object
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
Gojo actually talked about it early on and it just wasn't super elaborated on. Imaginary demons are curses born from the fear the masses hold towards a specific symbol like the nine-tailed fox or the Yuuki Onna. The fear of Ryomen Sukuna elevated him into what Gojo refers to as an "Imaginary Demon God". Likely this means that he managed to simultaneously become a curse while human.
@jacobc246
@jacobc246 4 ай бұрын
Sukuna is a curse. He became a curse just like kenjaku. Yuki literally says that as about the only way for curses to be born from sorcerers because they control their cursed energy so well.
@lord12jsv68
@lord12jsv68 4 ай бұрын
Kenjaku isnt a curse tho, its his technique which lets him change corpses (dont know how), and he is regarded as a sorcerer.
@shadowmaster960604
@shadowmaster960604 5 ай бұрын
So it possible that even after everythingthe heros done to get sukuna not alive. He can come back as a curse spirit or even worse a vengenful spirit?
@facundosilveira5535
@facundosilveira5535 5 ай бұрын
Not if they kill him with cursed energy, just don't let Maki punch this one too or Noaya's fiasco will repeat
@caseyjones8153
@caseyjones8153 5 ай бұрын
@@facundosilveira5535 She has cursed tools, though. The reason Naoya came back as a curse was because Maki’s mother killed him after he survived the blow Maki gave him.
@facundosilveira5535
@facundosilveira5535 5 ай бұрын
@@caseyjones8153 i know, that why i said "don't let Maki *punch* him"
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
He is a cursed spirit. It is mentioned early on that he is an imaginary demon, a cursed spirit formed from the public's fear of a specific symbol like the nine-tailed fox or the Yuki Onna. Fear of Ryomen Sukuna caused the creation of a Ryomen Sukuna Cursed Spirit and rather than manifesting as a separate entity it seems to have "evolved" the original Sukuna.
@fortuneosadolor438
@fortuneosadolor438 5 ай бұрын
So how do you explain sakuna saying he would have getting clapped by the sword of extermination from maharaga if he wasn't in Yuji's body?
@khalealhenry3660
@khalealhenry3660 5 ай бұрын
he said if he was a curse spirit, not if he wasn't in yuji's body
@Solikap
@Solikap 5 ай бұрын
That was basically him saying, "Even if the strongest cursed spirit was in my place right now, they would have been killed immediately." Because positive energy is deadly against curses. Also, fun fact, this can be done by sorcerers too. But it's extremely rare, because you have to be able to use RCT and be able to use RCT on other people, not just yourself.
@fortuneosadolor438
@fortuneosadolor438 5 ай бұрын
cool thanks
@sky-oq5mr
@sky-oq5mr 4 ай бұрын
​@@khalealhenry3660nah he said if he was his normal self bruh
@khalealhenry3660
@khalealhenry3660 4 ай бұрын
@@sky-oq5mr sukuna is not a curse spirit
@TheYousif
@TheYousif 5 ай бұрын
Can someone make a binding vow that doesn't allow the user to use cursed energy but gets the benefits of heavenly restriction?
@user-zz3sn8ky7z
@user-zz3sn8ky7z 5 ай бұрын
I'd imagine you can, however the benefits wouldn't be as great as with innate Heavenly Restriction since you wouldn't be restricted from birth - you already reaped the benefits of having CE in your early childhood, so the cost of losing it then wouldn't be that great
@smallzz8244
@smallzz8244 5 ай бұрын
Day 5 of asking: can the purpose a heavenly restriction user exist is to help a 10 shadow users defeat their curses/ mahoraga
@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810
@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810 4 ай бұрын
He 1000% is a curse like what Naoya did... maybe. He was a human (he knows RCT). The tatoos and the eye thing are indications towards him being a curse. He either is a human or a traditory being between curse and human granting him sort of immortality. Although the argument for him being human stand above since if he was a curse he would have 0 incentive to become an imprisoned cursed object. Except if the deal with kenjaku wasn't to grant him immortality but to save him from death if he ever was defeated.
@mightynxumalo7579
@mightynxumalo7579 5 ай бұрын
Sakuna might be half curse spirit or Tangen's son
@print-diot
@print-diot 5 ай бұрын
Question: Can someone hit a blackflash while using a tool? Ex: slashing with sword
@keerthan7558
@keerthan7558 5 ай бұрын
i don't see why not ? As long as it is a cursed tool i should be possible since blackflash is essentially a critical attack which scales on cursed energy of the attack delivered.
@draxthedestroyer3334
@draxthedestroyer3334 5 ай бұрын
Nobara did it
@SeaJackson
@SeaJackson 5 ай бұрын
Nanami hit the black flash record with his cleaver blade
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
Nanami did it
@halloweendawg
@halloweendawg 5 ай бұрын
Do you think Uruame appeared randomly because they were trapped in the prison realm until Kenjaku let them out? thank you!
@ManganimistYT
@ManganimistYT 5 ай бұрын
Just put out a response to this, thank you for the support! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIuagqKQlN6Ye7M
@gerrelsmith0321
@gerrelsmith0321 5 ай бұрын
They said a master swordsman killed Sukuna
@enma8441
@enma8441 5 ай бұрын
Hes human but evolved more into curse than human due to evolution. Tengen is also the same. Is why hes called king of curses. Not because he is a curse user. Only Geto/Kenjaku uses curses and all sorcerers and curses use cursed energy
@Martyyri
@Martyyri 5 ай бұрын
Curse spirits are not only type of curse. Geto uses curse spirit manipulation. But everyone else also using curse techniques literally means you are using curses to fight. Even your dying wish can become a curse to someone else. It doesnt necessarily need to be curse spirit going around.
@enma8441
@enma8441 5 ай бұрын
@@Martyyri I never got the feeling that Curses and curse energy are the same. Curse energy is negative emotions and curses are physical manifestations given birth by clump of negative emotion. Being a curse technique user or a sorcerer doesnt make you a curse. Only a curse/ curse technique user. Also forgot Yuta and probably a few more others being one of the people who use actual curses. I'm just saying Sukuna got the name king of curses cos I ran into somewhere in the manga where they made reference of Tengen and Sukuna being similar former humans who now look similar to curses and Sukuna being the strongest one.
@Martyyri
@Martyyri 5 ай бұрын
@@enma8441 also cursed spirits are literally created from cursed energy that "gathers in one spot, building up like sediment until a cursed spirit takes form" Even when they become sentient and some are even able to speak, they still literally are just cursed energy that gathered in one spot over time.
@enma8441
@enma8441 5 ай бұрын
@@Martyyri Yea that's what I said. I didnt disagree that there are different kinds of curse applications like cursed objects, curse tool, curse manipulation, curse amplification etc but curses/cursed spirits are not the same as curse energy. Otherwise any curse user can call themselves a curse.
@Martyyri
@Martyyri 5 ай бұрын
@@enma8441 curses and curse energy ARE same. They are just in different form. It still doesnt mean that every curse user can call themselves as curse
@dirrilismixer2556
@dirrilismixer2556 5 ай бұрын
Sukuna shouldn't have the title of "king of curses", he isn't a curse neither he can control them, if he's known as the "king of curses" For having most CE in history then he should be called "king of CE" (Sounds lame huh, right?) That's why I have another term to refer the king which is "king of jujutsu" Now you can't complain on this one, it seems pretty much better then the og one plus it sounds correct since he have the most CE (in reserves) in the series and his understanding of jujutsu is far beyond then any sorcerer in existence, that's why he should be called "king of jujutsu" If you wanna call anybody "king of curses" Then it's no other then geto or kenjaku because only these two can use curses, control them, devour them and manipulate them, these all things make our geto or kenjaku (only due to possessing geto's body) the real "king of curses"
@PoojaKumari-ty6sh
@PoojaKumari-ty6sh 5 ай бұрын
That tittle was given by the individuals who were able to witness his sorcery and destruction...being this powerful but so self-indulging, literally an epitome of greed (curse) to other people...hence the name "KING OF CURSES". I might be wrong 🤔
@dirrilismixer2556
@dirrilismixer2556 5 ай бұрын
@@PoojaKumari-ty6sh still king of jujutsu negs
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
He is also the Imaginary Demon God. Imaginary demons are cursed spirits born of symbols of fear in the public. He is a cursed spirit born from the fear of Ryomen Sukuna as well as the original.
@rollerblaide5103
@rollerblaide5103 5 ай бұрын
Wait So even if Gojo won, and some years later someone ate the last finger would sukuna still come back
@real_rutmen
@real_rutmen 5 ай бұрын
Yea
@rollerblaide5103
@rollerblaide5103 5 ай бұрын
@@real_rutmen that's crazy
@tariqsajal7380
@tariqsajal7380 5 ай бұрын
Please explain yuta's technique. Can he copy everything?
@user-zz3sn8ky7z
@user-zz3sn8ky7z 5 ай бұрын
That wasn't revealed yet, Kenajku says he can copy unconditionally, but it's implied later that that's not the case
@averypossiblememelord1566
@averypossiblememelord1566 5 ай бұрын
This is kinda confusing bc in the Mahoraga fight with Sukuna, Sukuna got hit by the sword of extermination and said ‘If I was the same I was back then (‘Then’ being the Heian period), that could’ve killed me’ which doesn’t really make sense with this explanation bc how could positive energy kill him if he wasn’t a curse? Edit: Rewatched the clip and got it cleared up, thanks to the dude in the comments who made me realise my brain fart
@antoniocollie865
@antoniocollie865 5 ай бұрын
Read it again you’re mixing up two different sentences in your mind
@alexchng
@alexchng 5 ай бұрын
Like the other guy said, you're mixing up two different lines. He said that the Sword of Extermination would have killed him if he were a cursed spirit. Later on in the fight is when he acknowledged that had Megumi summoned Mahoraga in their first fight (when Sukuna was 3-finger strength), Sukuna may have lost
@kirawr8064
@kirawr8064 5 ай бұрын
He was a sorcerer of course but cannot be called human anymore This is really supported by Angel's ability imo Jacob’s ladder erases all evil right? It’s means it erases cursed spirits It definitely doesn’t turn people "good", nor does it work on a person's feelings cuz we all know sukuna don’t give a damn about the things he did
@SneakyBushcamper
@SneakyBushcamper 5 ай бұрын
He def can and should be called human his anotomy is that of a human not a cursed spirit since he uses rct to heal himself. Angel’s technique doesn’t erase cursed spirit you are literally just assuming that for no reason it’s stated it erases all evil lol
@kirawr8064
@kirawr8064 5 ай бұрын
brother define evil do you define it by how you feel about your sins?since sukuna doesn't care nor does he see anything wrong with his actions so it can't be that it's not some type of judgement like higaruma's domain since there is no trial it straight up erases evil, and the only thing truly evil in jjk are cursed spirits yes I'm assuming cuz there is no actual statement from the author but this makes sense btw the anatomy of a "human" doesn't have 4 arms you also forgot about the time he distorted his face when he hugged angel? go back to that panel and tell me how "human" he looks there @@SneakyBushcamper
@SneakyBushcamper
@SneakyBushcamper 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@kirawr8064the definition of evil is “profoundly inmoral and wicked” Sukuna is evil because he only cares about himself not setting limits between his own happiness and enjoyment and that of others breaking their happiness and enjoyment for the sake of his own. I see what you mean ofc good and evil are very vague we humans ourselves are the most evil beings in the entire planet from the point of view of every single other organism lol. I would assume the ct technique works on sukuna since he kills for no reason besides his own enjoyment making him truly evil. Sukuna’s anatomy is more human than cursed spirit since he can use rct. From what we know his form could just be part of his ct but he is definitely more human than a cursed spirit. Now I ask you are curses truly evil or are they just evil from humans pov? Survival of the fittest they do what they can to survive just like animals, are animals evil for trying to eat humans when humans would devour them if given the chance?
@cryojhin5369
@cryojhin5369 5 ай бұрын
​@kirawr8064 sukuna states while fighting maho in shibuya that he is not a cursed spirit becaus if he was the sword of extermination would have erased him, jacobs ladder is a judgement similar to judgeman that i assume would go off the theological principles it represents or angels own viewpoint
@kirawr8064
@kirawr8064 5 ай бұрын
curses are born from negative human emotions and they continue to feed on them their existence just leads to more negative emotions, regardless of what type pretty clear to me also yes sukuna looks more human than cursed spirit but that doesn't change the fact that he ain't human again, look at the panel when sukuna takes a bite out of angel and tell me how human he looks also, no it's not his ct that allows him to change form, most likely just a binding vow, he is also called the fallen one so maybe he ate someone and in return got his 4 arms and two mouths form, maybe his brother or soemthing people have one ct, so he has his own and the 10 shawows from megumi the fire arow is not his ct, he says "open" to summon the flames this seems more like a way to save cts for later use prob again a binding vow, but yoruzu type ones, where his opponents give him something before their last breath @@SneakyBushcamper
@redmale8943
@redmale8943 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't Gojo prioritize the disaster curses following his 0.2 second domain expansion?
@Madnes7968
@Madnes7968 5 ай бұрын
Thats a really good question
@DreCoss17
@DreCoss17 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't the narrator explain it on that same scene on the anime? Something about being too risky for gojo or something like that
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 5 ай бұрын
The disaster curses were a minority compared to the regular curses, gojo wanted to save people which was a mistake hence why he barely used his ability and didn't even open a domain
@cornbread9512
@cornbread9512 5 ай бұрын
Because then the rest of the arc wouldn’t have happened lol
@animatrix5945
@animatrix5945 5 ай бұрын
I think ppl think about this in the wrong way. 1. Gojo was experiencing CT burn out. I bet he though he could kill the transfigured humans as his CT replenished, and then kill the disaster curses + choso 2. In his mind, he had all the time he could want to kill all of them, but the immediate threat was the... you know, 1,000 transfigured humans, which were also the easiest to get rid of.
@Cohax
@Cohax 5 ай бұрын
When he transform in his old form, the manga clarify that he now is, partially, a curse
@PLOT-IS
@PLOT-IS 5 ай бұрын
Where? Which chapter?
@Cohax
@Cohax 5 ай бұрын
@@PLOT-IS in 237 the manga states that now he transform in "a curse with fleshly form", i take that he is not a cursed spirit but still, somewhat, a curse
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
​@@CohaxGojo actually talked about it early on and it just wasn't super elaborated on. Imaginary demons are curses born from the fear the masses hold towards a specific symbol like the nine-tailed fox or the Yuuki Onna. The fear of Ryomen Sukuna elevated him into what Gojo refers to as an "Imaginary Demon God". Likely this means that he managed to simultaneously become a curse while human.
@TheKingBLOOZ
@TheKingBLOOZ 5 ай бұрын
Okay, but does Sukuna look like Yuji because Yuji's body is who he reincarnated into, or does Yuji look like Sukuna because his body is compatible to be the vessel for Sukuna?
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
More likely the latter since we've seen his true form looks similar to Yuji. It is also possible that Kenjaku enhanced Yuji's body to make him a perfect vessel by adding Sukuna's blood to him the same way he did for himself and the Death Womb Paintings, making Sukuna his "father".
@tebrown2000
@tebrown2000 5 ай бұрын
Was human.
@jakubtrapp3509
@jakubtrapp3509 5 ай бұрын
I wonder WHAT KILLED SUKUNA my theory is that he juts died if old age and he ripped his fingers I think somone sneaked up on him and then ended him when he was a fossil he just stabbed his brain
@deeeeeeznutz
@deeeeeeznutz 5 ай бұрын
Gojo said the sorcerer's made him retreat Gege said sukuna made them retreat 😑 so basically he never died either way
@Dartoccus
@Dartoccus 5 ай бұрын
Theres still mystery bout tengen n kenjsku but you can see sukuna original corpse when kenjku ask tengen about the corspe he might died of old age you can check it chapter 220
@svenjra
@svenjra 5 ай бұрын
He never died. At some point in the Heian era, Kenjaku approached Sukuna with a sales pitch about the merger and culling games, they struck a deal and Sukuna learned from Kenjaku how to turn himself into his cursed objects, and the rest is history.
@Dartoccus
@Dartoccus 5 ай бұрын
@@svenjra then how can you explain the corpse in chapter 220 thats literally his body then at some point he died maybe after turned himself into cursed objects
@svenjra
@svenjra 5 ай бұрын
@@Dartoccus Sukuna divided his soul and infused the pieces into his cursed finger, leaving his body empty. So in a way, you can say that he did die when he left his body to just shrivel up and mummify.
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 5 ай бұрын
Is Sukuna's hair naturally pink like Yuji's
@sanchirkh6019
@sanchirkh6019 5 ай бұрын
i was also confused by that also how come sukuna looks like yuji ?
@bharatcosmos7743
@bharatcosmos7743 5 ай бұрын
@@sanchirkh6019 maybe kenny used sukuna's dna to make yuji or itadori family is some distant relative of sukuna
@sadrakeyhany7477
@sadrakeyhany7477 5 ай бұрын
I think yuji is blonde in the manga, don't quote me on it tho
@svenjra
@svenjra 5 ай бұрын
​@@sanchirkh6019 aside from both being redheads, they look nothing alike. Heck, Sukuna's true from share more facial features with Hakari, than anyone else.
@dimaudalow
@dimaudalow 5 ай бұрын
@@sadrakeyhany7477 , it was a coloring error, I beleive Gege himself admitted that and noted Yuji's hair is indeed pink.
@xdecroix
@xdecroix 5 ай бұрын
so you don't know for sure but you're so certain. He was human, sure. What makes you think he stayed human ? Why do you think he attracts curses ? How are you so sure what he is NOW ? you're not.
@rodrigop2198
@rodrigop2198 5 ай бұрын
He didn't say he IS Human, he isn't anymore he is a cursed object, we don't know why he looks like that, but I remember him being called a sorcerer, he was unwanted so he might have been born deformed, or maybe he placed binding vows to better his sorcery or maybe he evolved to something else.
@Crossbones-TS
@Crossbones-TS 5 ай бұрын
Of course he didn't stay human? He's a cursed object......
@Oldmeme592
@Oldmeme592 5 ай бұрын
Either in the manga or anime at some point. He says that the slash from mahoraga would've been deadly if it hit him in his heian era form right?
@Nihility_Is_W
@Nihility_Is_W 5 ай бұрын
Nah Lmao he said he could have been dead if he was Curse Spirit then Maho would have Oneshotted him but unfortunately he's a human.
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792 5 ай бұрын
I don't think soo
@imwalkingrn
@imwalkingrn 5 ай бұрын
As its been said, his original form highly resembles tengens evolved body. I think what this means is sukuna mustve done something to forcefully evolve his body to become perfectly suited for a sorcerer. Maybe he fought so much at the highest level during the golden age his body naturally evolved through the sheer amount of battles he has experienced. His body is fitting of the strongest sorcerer so gaining it through battle makes the most sense.
@jaliun
@jaliun 5 ай бұрын
Ould u talk about the wat sukuna is ranked also? He is ranked as a special grade curse (like he said to the finger bearer) and not with the sorceres even tho he should be like curse user geto
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792 5 ай бұрын
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@777MangaKing7771
@777MangaKing7771 5 ай бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
@Nopejams
@Nopejams 5 ай бұрын
I thought humans could become curses? So can't a powerful sorcerer become a curse and still essentially be the same if strong enough. Thats what i though about Sukuna, he was so op as a sorcerer and curse user that when he died he just became a curse/soul was in his fingers essentially becoming a curse through his cursed objects aka fingers.
@georgii3041
@georgii3041 5 ай бұрын
Yes, but only if they die with strong negative emotions they will turn into a cursed spirit or object (if they aren't killed by a CT). However, Sukuna like all the other incarnated curse users in the Culling Games were turned into cursed objects by Kenjaku and were given vessels to return back to life in the present time - don't know if you're up to that part in the manga yet but it's a not a huge spoiler since it's explained that incarnated sorcerers like Sukuna are participating in the culling games.
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 5 ай бұрын
If a sorcerer is killed without CE they'll become a vengeful spirit but that's not them, that's something else crawling into their corpse and taking their memories and mannerisms is what heard
@georgii3041
@georgii3041 5 ай бұрын
@samuraitadpole5459 No, that is very much still them. It's called a vengeful cursed spirit whenever someone dies and their soul becomes a cursed spirit. Sorcerers are more likely to become vengeful spirits than non-sorcerers, but it's not a sure thing.
@Crossbones-TS
@Crossbones-TS 5 ай бұрын
The only reason y'all believed Sukuna was a curse is solely because of the title "King of Curses", when the word "curse" has multiple meanings inside JJK Yaga also called Geto a curse, so what?
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 4 ай бұрын
Gojo has also referred to him as an "imaginary demon god". An imaginary demon is a type of curse
@sky-oq5mr
@sky-oq5mr 4 ай бұрын
Sukuna is a curse. He straight up said if mahoraga hit him while he was in his original form he wouldve been one shot.
@AstroThePanda
@AstroThePanda 3 ай бұрын
No he didn't. If i say "if i was a lion, this smoke would have effected me" Does this line implies im a lion?
@InHarmWay0402
@InHarmWay0402 3 ай бұрын
He is not a curse. If he was a cursed spirit Yuta and any other sorcerer who can output reverse cursed energy could one shot him
@sky-oq5mr
@sky-oq5mr 3 ай бұрын
@@InHarmWay0402 that's not true at all. His true form or full powered form is a cursed. Heian era has somethings we don't understand. Uramei said hakari feels like he's transcended beyond human and is on the verge of becoming a cursed. We've seen sukunas normal state, he's probably a hybrid of sorts. He did tell mahoraga if he was in his normal state he'd have died immediately
@InHarmWay0402
@InHarmWay0402 3 ай бұрын
​@@sky-oq5mr Sukuna never said that to Mahoraga. He said something along the lines of, 'If I were a cursed spirit, I'd be a goner,' and a few panels later he said, 'If it were me from that time,' referring to when he only had three fingers, 'it may have been able to defeat me.' You are either confusing the two or parroting someone else, which is much more likely. Also, why does a cursed spirit instinctively know how to use reverse cursed technique? That would be suicidal.
@thiefkingparsley576
@thiefkingparsley576 5 ай бұрын
its also important to clarify that it was Kenjaku that, with his unique knowledge, turned Sukuna into those 20 fingers to be reincarnated later. This is why I think Kenjaku specifically created Yuji. To be the "cage" that can contain and control Sukuna.
@real_rutmen
@real_rutmen 5 ай бұрын
Well uh, you're wrong, because Kenjaku himself quite literally stated that Yuji being able to contain Sukuna was an accident, not something he planned to happen.
@lord12jsv68
@lord12jsv68 4 ай бұрын
@@real_rutmen when tho? and for what reason would a villain of jujutsu kaisen want to be clapped?
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