The King of Fighters '97: Neo Geo vs CD vs PS1 vs Saturn vs NGP Comparison

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RetroPort

RetroPort

4 жыл бұрын

The King of Fighters '97 was originally released in 1997 for Arcade - Neo Geo. There were several ports, and here we'll be analyzing each, comparing to the arcade game.
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Enjoy!
Arcade/Neo Geo Analysis - 0:08
Neo Geo CD Analysis - 6:35
PlayStation Analysis - 17:05
Sega Saturn Analysis - 31:42
Neo Geo Pocket Analysis - 44:15
Orochi Collection Analysis (PS2/PSP/Wii) - 47:40
Global Match Analysis (Steam/PS4/Vita) - 50:42
All versions side-by-side - 52:23

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@TalesBarros
@TalesBarros 4 жыл бұрын
Where are you, man? Is everything alright?
@retroport9393
@retroport9393 4 жыл бұрын
This is a re-upload, last video was locked at 720p for some reason, nothing added. Thanks a lot to Malik Levy for the voice over in this video!
@DanielAyy
@DanielAyy 4 жыл бұрын
Your vids are awesome, just saying! :)
@mayferplays
@mayferplays 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Excellent analysis! That's your best job so far (the others were great too)! And Malik voice is awesome!
@erwanlecainec3394
@erwanlecainec3394 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind for the extra commentary but I preferred when there was no commentary and just the subtitles. You could appreciate more the music this way.
@retroport9393
@retroport9393 4 жыл бұрын
@@erwanlecainec3394 Sorry, KZbin asked me to change the format and add narration. I do like music only, but that's one of the problems they pointed: it's third party content.
@user-xb5mt1sf9e
@user-xb5mt1sf9e 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by your very detailed video. But isn't the explanation of 19:11 about the Sega Saturn port?
@SolBuster
@SolBuster 3 жыл бұрын
Man. I love this channel. Please come back. Videos like these are like comfort food and I eat em up daily.
@RevengerPhoenix
@RevengerPhoenix Жыл бұрын
As a former content creator, I understand if the channel owner never returned. I did something involving video editing for over 11 years. I started doing it as a hobby in college. By the time I was a full grown adult, I found it stressing to sit in front of computer editing 5-6 hours a day after coming from work…and it was exhausting. So I just decided to quietly stop doing the hobby. I wasn’t enjoying it anymore, and I’d rather spend the free time I have with my family or doing other less intense hobbies. So just to give you perspective about why some content creators suddenly stop uploading and never return. Video editing takes time and patience. And if you’re doing it as a hobby and not getting any money from it, only the fun is left. When it becomes more annoying and stressful than fun, that’s when you quietly drop it and never return. This man put a lot of effort into every video, so I can see why it must’ve become an exhausting hobby for him.
@erwanlecainec3394
@erwanlecainec3394 4 жыл бұрын
I was desperately starving for this video to come. Thank you retroport !
@NostalgiaPS1
@NostalgiaPS1 4 жыл бұрын
Simple amazing man. I apreciate a lot your comparation frame per frame, and the research for all the versions. A special thanks again for the portuguese subtitles. Keep this fantastic work.
@icekokoro2708
@icekokoro2708 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s absurd that SNK didn’t port the Saturn version with the 4MB RAM cart in mind. X-Men vs Street Fighter came out before KOF 97 on the system so I think it was a missed opportunity. It could’ve blown the other ports away and be the next best thing to owning the Neo Geo cart.
@WeskerSega
@WeskerSega 4 жыл бұрын
SNK was already phasing out their Sega Saturn development about that time, so I suppose that's why they didn't invest in supporting the 4MB RAM cartridge. The King of Fighters '97 was their last Sega Saturn title in fact (not counting Best Collection re-releases), released in March 1998, while Capcom still sticked with the console for a couple of years more. You can't really compare both companies in terms of how they supported the Sega Saturn, there was clearly more dedication and love in Capcom's side.
@trevorjoel2150
@trevorjoel2150 2 жыл бұрын
InstaBlaster.
@diasflac0g
@diasflac0g 11 ай бұрын
I understand your complaint, but the Saturn version was already IMO better than the Neo Geo CD and PSX versions. What more do you want? Back in the day this was the best way to play the game at home. Aside from the sped up voice samples this port is excellent. The PS2 Japanese orochi saga makes all these ports obsolete though.
@Tempora158
@Tempora158 8 ай бұрын
I think this was a case of tribalism. SNK knew all their fans on the Sega Saturn already have the 1MB RAM cart from buying their previous SNK ports. But if they made KOF97 require the 4MB RAM cart, SNK would either have to provide a SKU that includes KOF97 and the 4MB RAM together which will drive up SNK's publishing cost or they force their fans to buy a Capcom game to get the 4MB RAM cart, which is really bad optics. This is why SNK made KOF97 a 1MB RAM cart game like their previous ports but with attention paid to compatibility with the 4MB RAM cart for Capcom fans who want to cross into SNK's side after buying X-Men vs Street Fighter.
@laumpolumpio
@laumpolumpio 3 ай бұрын
@@diasflac0g FX sounds and voices are lower quality on the Saturn, it sounds like sh1t.
@gaffa2002
@gaffa2002 3 жыл бұрын
Love your comparisons, man. They have the perfect balance between being detailed and interesting to watch in my opinion.
@RaitoADV
@RaitoADV 3 жыл бұрын
The "HD Android" version is actually a port, and not emulation. The sprites kind of look like they were passed through a filter, but on closer inspection you can actually see minor sprite details that filters can't do, like the suns drawn on Kyo's gloves, or the eyes of various characters.
@imnotayoutuber8494
@imnotayoutuber8494 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you comeback one day, loved the videos
@Fesaru75
@Fesaru75 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, great work and good comentary, keep going !
@rikratosbits9175
@rikratosbits9175 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful vídeo buddy!
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 9 ай бұрын
Actually, the Neo Geo is the one with the "weird" resolution. It was meant to be 320x224, but a glitch affected eight pixels on the end of the screen left and right, so it's 304 wide. This glitch got never removed, because it's just a minor issue.
@AshtarSheran1
@AshtarSheran1 4 жыл бұрын
Professional comparison,congratulations.
@kylestyle5693
@kylestyle5693 Жыл бұрын
Just stumbled across your channel. I love your content! Thanks for making such detailed videos! I hope you make another someday! Maybe The Last Blade? Fist of the North Star? JOJO’s? Anything would be cool to watch! Thanks for the hard work!
@kylestyle5693
@kylestyle5693 Жыл бұрын
Also great to hear your voice in this video! Makes it much easier to enjoy on the train haha!
@jogadorcomum3265
@jogadorcomum3265 6 ай бұрын
Otimo video, se ainda estiver encarnado na terra, espero que faça novos vídeos, tem muito talento!
@SaminPK
@SaminPK 4 жыл бұрын
Fanstastic comparison. Thans a lot 👍😁
@BrainDesmo
@BrainDesmo 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, amazing stuff. Like’d and Sub’d.
@jbanzato
@jbanzato 4 жыл бұрын
fantastic video! Parabéns! T+
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
KOF is one of the best fighting franchises!
@Edu_Vanquish
@Edu_Vanquish 3 жыл бұрын
Desiste não mano, faz mais vídeos pra nós por favor. Faz com as KOF que faltam.
@Lain_Unkown
@Lain_Unkown 7 ай бұрын
BR detected!
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 5 ай бұрын
Hope to see more videos soon.❤
@NIGH11
@NIGH11 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Trinidad ! Great video and voice over ! The animation comparison is really interesting. I yake it the Neo Geo CD removed frames to speed up loading, while the ps1 version did it more because of its limited RAM?
@yelnatspowerzz4970
@yelnatspowerzz4970 4 жыл бұрын
Great video great channel your fans r dying for more content
@porsupollo9349
@porsupollo9349 4 жыл бұрын
incredible videos, i hope you can do the same with kof 98.
@alessandroluciocordeirodas9115
@alessandroluciocordeirodas9115 4 жыл бұрын
Eu tinha um Neo Geo Cd com este jogo. Apesar de ser o que mais demorava para carregar (media de 50 segundos no primeiro round e 25 nos demais) era o que mais jogava, amava este jogo. Na época tinha também o PS1, mas mesmo sendo loading mais rápido eu gostava mesmo era do Neo Geo CD. Estava ansioso para ver este vídeo de comparação para saber se tinha conseguido descobrir todas as diferenças da versão Neo Geo CD em relação ao arcade. Eu já tinha notado do logo do que não girava em volta do globo, do personagem que aguarda ser o próximo não tinha animação no terremoto do Daimom e o balão faltando na face americana , mas não tinha conseguido ver as animações diferente da Blue-Mary, do Billy e Chris. Sei que era problema de hardware os lowdowns mas ate gostava, e achava estranho jogar saturno por não te-los. No mais parabéns cara, ótimo video.
@svcocoTV
@svcocoTV 4 жыл бұрын
Please continue with Kof98 and Kof99. I've always wondered if animation frames were cut on Neo Geo CD ports of those games as popularly believed
@jamesbo5930
@jamesbo5930 4 жыл бұрын
No frames cut on and neo CD game
@ANAS4FIRE
@ANAS4FIRE 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbo5930 Are You Really Sure?
@jamesbo5930
@jamesbo5930 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just size of things
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, those systems just had long load times. Past that they had 7MB of RAM not to mention totally dedicated 2D hardware identical to the arcade, which is more than what the Sega Saturn had to work with even with the 1MB RAM cart.
@willkelmanpenapena3551
@willkelmanpenapena3551 2 жыл бұрын
I miss you man
@xWagnerPlaguesx
@xWagnerPlaguesx 3 жыл бұрын
I miss this channel..i hope you're good, my guy.
@mursaleensaleem1806
@mursaleensaleem1806 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@rogersaiko
@rogersaiko 4 жыл бұрын
Por favor, faça um vídeo com essa qualidade pra The Last Blade 1 e 2. Parabéns pelo trabalho!
@heresachallenger
@heresachallenger 4 жыл бұрын
Estou aguardando o vídeo de KoF '98, SVC Chaos, MvsC2. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
@wilderespinoza9772
@wilderespinoza9772 4 жыл бұрын
Good video like
@AnonymousYT983
@AnonymousYT983 3 жыл бұрын
great work, only the wii version was missing which probably must be quite similar to the ps2 but it is worth mentioning to make it more complete than it already is.
@VintageRetrogames
@VintageRetrogames 3 жыл бұрын
Man, what happened to you? Your comparison videos are amazing!!! Why did you stop?
@SiincereARC
@SiincereARC 4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, do you plan to do any version of Street Fighter 3? It would be nice to see one that has console comparisons (and maybe emulator comparisons as well).
@Deception2000
@Deception2000 4 жыл бұрын
He has a video compairing the Street fighter alpha 3, that may be helpful
@Adam-rt7lp
@Adam-rt7lp 3 жыл бұрын
Is this channel still alive? I was really hoping to see some street fighter 3 comparisons... aswell as street fighter collection PS1 vs Saturn
@CastleFamilyThe
@CastleFamilyThe 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! Certainly this was the worst KOF for NGCD loading time wise, 98-99 thankfully improved on this
@Pagaugezero
@Pagaugezero 9 ай бұрын
Probably because of more cuts
@LansTartare
@LansTartare 11 ай бұрын
Please come back!
@PipoBeltran89
@PipoBeltran89 Жыл бұрын
Hi, are you ok?? Your videos are amazing, please come back!! 🥺
@LilScam4u
@LilScam4u 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Seeing the NeoGeo Pocket version makes me feel like maybe Skullgirls had some inspiration from the art style.
@keypath4389
@keypath4389 4 жыл бұрын
Are you planning on doing kof 99 too?
@pie6459
@pie6459 4 жыл бұрын
Can Billy connect 2C after 6A in Saturn and NeoGeo CD versions?
@clarinetepetermann486
@clarinetepetermann486 4 жыл бұрын
O melhor de todos! Melhor versão Neo Geo Arcade
@alessandroluciocordeirodas9115
@alessandroluciocordeirodas9115 4 жыл бұрын
Pra mim o melhor dos dois mundos seria a versão do Arcade com as musicas do Neo Geo CD. Cara as musicas no CD era muito melhor.
@milfilosofia4994
@milfilosofia4994 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandroluciocordeirodas9115 No PS2 versão japonesa é assim, ficou muito dahora
@thepulseman7154
@thepulseman7154 2 жыл бұрын
Discovered this video and channel today, too bad it doesn't continue. Anyway if I understood correctly in Neo CD vs Saturn vs Playstation, Saturn version is the second best looking one whereas Playstation is the second best sounding one.
@DanielAyy
@DanielAyy 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, how are you doing?
@TCI_YT
@TCI_YT 4 жыл бұрын
Otimo Video!KoF 97 Para O Ps1 Devia Se Chamar The King Of Lost Frames 97
@ThelosVerlos
@ThelosVerlos 3 жыл бұрын
Parece mais uma apresentação de powerpoint do q um jogo, um horror...
@carmaggedon666
@carmaggedon666 4 жыл бұрын
It's desappointing Iori's strong flying kick was totally cut off on PS1 version, and it was replaced by other different frames.
@alexisken3824
@alexisken3824 4 жыл бұрын
Me gustaría ver la comparativa del kof99
@SMEARGLEX75
@SMEARGLEX75 4 жыл бұрын
the ios/android port is kind of decent, its only con is the ai being stronger over levels
@rikratosbits9175
@rikratosbits9175 3 жыл бұрын
Please make "vs" samurai shodown 3, neo geo cd, ps1 and saturn
@lucasraphael6236
@lucasraphael6236 2 жыл бұрын
Still hoping for a KOF '98 comparison...
@machewgun503
@machewgun503 2 жыл бұрын
the neo geo hardware allways struggles with the framerate in many games, the thing is, that those slowdowns had his charm and weren´t annoying
@mandraqueazul
@mandraqueazul 4 жыл бұрын
Ja testou a versão de Saturn sem o cartucho? Aumenta o tempo de loadings ou nem funciona?
@gingataisen
@gingataisen 3 жыл бұрын
*Sega* *Saturn* for the win! 💪❤😎
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 2 жыл бұрын
Shame it's sound is so jacked up. I own that version, the PS1 version, the Wii Orochi Saga version, and the Japanese PS2 Orochi Hen version, and to be honest, when I seriously want to play KoF 97, I turn to that PS2 version as to me it is the best home version (it emulates the AES versions, with the arranged music from the Neo CD added in as an option, AES and MVS mirror each other perfectly). The Saturn version is still jank due to sound compression, (and animation frame cuts though to be honest, that part doesn't bother me all that much at all) something that plagues every SNK Saturn port, and pretty much all Capcom Saturn stuff outside of Vampire Savior.
@jamesbell3216
@jamesbell3216 4 жыл бұрын
And it's shingos first debut
@flynnpinkman6950
@flynnpinkman6950 4 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the first song in the video?
@user-qn5pt5mt9r
@user-qn5pt5mt9r 4 жыл бұрын
Everything is for the Awakening - kof 97 soundtrack
@Christopherh1234
@Christopherh1234 2 жыл бұрын
Actually The Wii Version Of Orochi Saga Has No Loading Times but the PS2 one does.
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow
@Christopherh1234
@Christopherh1234 Жыл бұрын
@@sladejosephwilson2300 Yep The Only Time The PS2 Version Of Orochi Sage Doesn't Have The Loading Time Unless It's The Japanese Version.
@cobrakainevereverdies6940
@cobrakainevereverdies6940 9 ай бұрын
Saturn and Dreamcast were the best things that Sega ever made
@rafael0a0t
@rafael0a0t 4 жыл бұрын
Make a kof 98 with DC and neogeo poket color version, please
@groidcel
@groidcel 3 жыл бұрын
Make more videos please.
@timskamlam1242
@timskamlam1242 3 жыл бұрын
Show, sega Saturn mostrou ser melhor em frames e tudo mais, um port perfeito do arcade.
@Edu_Vanquish
@Edu_Vanquish 2 жыл бұрын
Que pena que você desistiu do canal...
@IAMNOTRANA
@IAMNOTRANA 3 жыл бұрын
Neo Geo CD literally exist for arranged tracks lol
@ANAS4FIRE
@ANAS4FIRE 3 жыл бұрын
KoF 98 Ports Pls!!
@WeskerSega
@WeskerSega 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad they didn't add language options to the Sega Saturn and PlayStation versions of The King of Fighters '97. SNK was somewhat inconsistent with this aspect in the conversions for non-SNK platforms. They were in The King of Fighters '96, weren't in The King of Fighters '97, but were brought back in The King of Fighters '98, or at least, in the Dreamcast version which was retitled "Dream Match 1999". Dunno about the PlayStation version of that one, honestly.
@xsamas777
@xsamas777 4 жыл бұрын
Irá fazer um vídeo sobre o Kof'98? Saudações do Brasil
@dinhozapa8758
@dinhozapa8758 4 жыл бұрын
Claro que nenhum vai bater de frente com o Arcade, mas a meu ver a versão mais completa é a versão do Saturn, apesar da versão do Neo Geo CD ser um pouquinho mais fiel no som os loadings do Neo Geo irritam demais e acaba perdendo nisso para as outras versão, e a do PSone é a versão mais fraca nitidamente.
@Ifalvarado
@Ifalvarado 4 жыл бұрын
This game was the first of neo cd cripple ports for frames....
@PAKA62
@PAKA62 4 жыл бұрын
Too many animation frames
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to play KoF 97 in the home on non SNK made hardware? The Japanese PS2 version found on Orochi Hen. None of the jank of the US PS2 version, no load times, broken sound, slowdown, animation frames are all intact, it's damned near perfect.
@laumpolumpio
@laumpolumpio 3 ай бұрын
voice samples on Sega saturn are compressed which makes them sounds bad.
@CLAVERIALAURENCECLYDED_A
@CLAVERIALAURENCECLYDED_A 4 жыл бұрын
47:40
@jaimezunigaobando4622
@jaimezunigaobando4622 3 жыл бұрын
Neogeo (original), sega saturn and PS2 japanese version are the Best 🤔
@cristianramallo8042
@cristianramallo8042 2 жыл бұрын
si hubiesen aprovechado el cartucho de 4mb de ram en sega saturn seria el mejor port
@gamesretro16xd84
@gamesretro16xd84 3 жыл бұрын
Kof 98
@AquyllysX701
@AquyllysX701 Ай бұрын
A melhor versão é a de NEO GEO Pocket falo mesmo kkkk
@shenlngbr7514
@shenlngbr7514 4 жыл бұрын
PS1 perdeu em quase tudo kkkkkkkkkkk só escapou no atraso de frames, na hora das chamas
@240pgames4
@240pgames4 4 жыл бұрын
Podia ter colocado texto em pt br pelo menos né?
@retroport9393
@retroport9393 4 жыл бұрын
Tem legendas em português. Ou não apareceu?
@240pgames4
@240pgames4 4 жыл бұрын
RetroPort agora sim, apareceu legenda. Eu que sou idiota em deixar o bagulho desligado HUEHUEHUEE
@lucobek8821
@lucobek8821 4 жыл бұрын
First one
@Osuna_CC
@Osuna_CC 2 жыл бұрын
So... The best version is? PS2 Japanese? ...and may be Saturn... ¿Isn't it? Even better than NeoGeo ones
@Flynn-games
@Flynn-games 4 жыл бұрын
PS1 conversion has a low cpu level...different from mvs-console cd
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 3 жыл бұрын
CPU had zero to do with this. The PS1 was a 3D GPU based system with no sprite or raster hardware. The biggest flaw is the lack of RAM. If they had that, they would’ve been able to recreate the game just as good as anything else at the time. Even the Saturn needed a RAM cart and it’s still not perfect by any stretch.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 2 жыл бұрын
Saturn and PS1 versions are pretty much the same difficulty wise, but then again compared to earlier SNK made fighters, it is far easier on any version, arcade included.
@Deception2000
@Deception2000 4 жыл бұрын
Next: Kof 98
@ZappaSlayer
@ZappaSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
As vozes ficaram uma bosta no Saturn
@Captainkirk923
@Captainkirk923 4 жыл бұрын
First
@renegadenolram6978
@renegadenolram6978 2 жыл бұрын
e morreu.
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