The "Knees Over Toes" Approach For Fixing Knee Pain

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Bob & Brad

Bob & Brad

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@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad Жыл бұрын
Looking for more tests and exercises used in treating knee pain? Our complete Knee Pain Program playlist can be found here kzbin.info/aero/PL8l32k1r15l45pq8HBsa0CHPqxQl9oLFs
@MindfulAttraction
@MindfulAttraction 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of flexibility of mind and open mindedness to change your mind like this it's quite impressive. Most people would resist it
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 2 жыл бұрын
i'm wondering what took so long for the physical therapy/ortho community to come around to this?
@Better_Call_Raul
@Better_Call_Raul 2 жыл бұрын
@Athlethics One doctor told me to strengthen quads. This will reduce the impact on the knee and reduce knee pain. Another doctor told me that quads have no weight-bearing function and it will have no effect in reducing pain.
@michaelkulman7095
@michaelkulman7095 2 жыл бұрын
Well they had this study from the 1960's or 70's showing more "shear force" at the knee, with knee beyond toe which is true and just said avoid it or that's what most took away from the paper which didn't exactly say that. It does put a lot of force on the knee but carefully built up to and applied that might be okay is the idea put forward here. Be careful, the progressions exist for a reason even the advocates of this say! It's still controversial so consider that. Don't just jump into it and attempt sissy squats, for example and if something hurts don't do it. Experts currently disagree so I'm just expressing the rationale not endorsing any school of thought per se. You get this a lot. If you do good mornings you could injure your lower back but some carefully use it to strengthen their lower back...some say start with a broomstick and some say just don't do it, period! Different people including experts hold to different schools of thought and the consensus isn't always right. I describe the way it is I don't advocate anything for everyone I am not an expert. This response was for entertainment purposes only...
@sdrosea
@sdrosea Жыл бұрын
You're not kidding. Mentioned it to my trainer and training partner, both darn near lost itl.
@rogerbird5665
@rogerbird5665 2 жыл бұрын
You admitting that you were wrong makes me EXTREMELY proud of you, and that attitude is best for civilization to move forward with regard to health wisdom. Thank you.
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@rogerbird5665
@rogerbird5665 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobandBrad My son also thinks that you should some kudos for your integrity.
@greyareaoperator
@greyareaoperator 2 жыл бұрын
Not only admitting but the explanation for the reasoning behind it. Honesty and open communication could really make some positive changes in the world if everybody practice them
@AjaychinuShah
@AjaychinuShah Жыл бұрын
Which is good, Btw. 😂
@iChoctate
@iChoctate 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob & Brad! Love you guys! Thanks for exposing me to the Knees Over Toes Guy. I initially thought he was completely insane, but I started taking him seriously after you interviewed him. I've been following his program for 1 month now and I have experienced a BIG decrease in my knee pain. This is literally changing my life and my fitness. Thank you!
@Activ80
@Activ80 3 жыл бұрын
I check into Bob & Brad's channel now & again out of interest. I am 79 years into my prime & try to maintain physicality as much as possible. I have followed these guys for years out of curiosity & their humor & delivery is great. However after a lifetime of body destroying activity & re-education I have never received much real help from any of the many PTs I have ever dealt with. I have great respect for Bob & Brad because they help the average Joe with good advice. A short while ago I came across Ben & his opposite take to any advice I was ever given & have had amazing results in very short time span. My reason for writing this is to show respect for Bob & Brad who, like me, formerly believed in the myth of never putting knees over toes & were willing to explore new ideas & change their minds - respect!
@cefrayer
@cefrayer Жыл бұрын
Just saw this. It's so admirable and impressive that people your age are willing and able to evolve in your thinking. Always being open-minded is the epitome of professionalism. 👍
@grumpyguss
@grumpyguss 2 жыл бұрын
These are the most established PTs in the KZbin world embracing change in their field. And not that they're old but they're no spring chickens. This cements Bob and Brad in my mind as the best in the business that you can take advice from. Because they can marry their degrees with their clinical knowledge with the ongoing evolution of physical therapy/strengthening happening outside brick and mortar clinics. Kudos to everyone here.
@Xgolfer11
@Xgolfer11 Жыл бұрын
Looks like I'm late to the party on this topic but with my bad knees, I was willing to try anything. Orthopedics told me I still have too much cartilage for a replacement. I watched and tried the backward walking with sled, and the result in 48 hrs is nothing short of amazing. I'm encouraged and will see if it works long term.
@AjaychinuShah
@AjaychinuShah Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input.
@ohno6955
@ohno6955 Жыл бұрын
And has it worked long term? I just found KOTa few a weeks ago. Big change with just walking backwards
@gugy68
@gugy68 2 жыл бұрын
The walk in reverse using a sled is awesome. Also the tibialis raises are great. Ben Patrick is a God send person with his techniques.
@rickmcmullen6360
@rickmcmullen6360 Жыл бұрын
Well, I was under the impression that the Knees Over Toes Guy was a gimmick. But with your endorsement is a complete game changer for me. I've have come trust Bob and Brad. Thank you for posting.
@barbaranorton2122
@barbaranorton2122 2 жыл бұрын
I am so excited that my two most famous physical therapists on the internet have found and are teaching the "knee over toes" guy. I have four joints that have needed to be replaced for the last 10 years (I am in my mid 60s) due to osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, and stickler syndrome (which affects all the collagen in the body), I cannot do the surgeries, (nor do I want to). These PTs and people like knee over toes guy, are keeping me healthy regardless. Thank you so much. I love you all. You give people like me hope. God Bless.
@michellcupito3788
@michellcupito3788 Жыл бұрын
I had a walker with a basket and four wheels from partial knee replacements. I put 15 pounds in the basket and tied a resistance band to me and it and Voila!!! Awesome. My knees feel better already and stretching is easier. Praise God, I found out about him yesterday and can't wait to get his program. Thanks guys! 🙏 And the stiffness is gone. I've been suffering 2 yrs now. I walk regularly and lift weights with my total gym but afterwards I'm done for the rest of the day. Not today! 💪
@jasodan72
@jasodan72 3 жыл бұрын
Ben's "knees over toes" exercises are fantastic and I highly recommend them to help strengthen the knees and legs. Follow him on KZbin to get a feel for what a great guy Ben is. I now don't do any other leg strengthening program than his. I signed up to his program and been doing it for about 12 weeks now and have advanced into now doing most of his program exercises using mostly bodyweight only. There are many more exercises than what Bob and Brad showed.
@KARENboomboomROXX
@KARENboomboomROXX 3 жыл бұрын
Ben is changing my life. Thank GOD I finally opened one of his videos. They've been in my recommended feed for a year😂
@barb987
@barb987 2 жыл бұрын
Can you sign up for his program and pay month to month?
@nathanbeam1406
@nathanbeam1406 2 жыл бұрын
@@barb987 yes!
@richardjones2767
@richardjones2767 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing these exercises for a while and they really work! Also been a big Bob and Brad fan forever, so their approval is everything. Thanks Guys!
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Bob
@mickelsmickle8668
@mickelsmickle8668 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobandBrad hi will will these help for meniscus issues
@whistlewyouwork
@whistlewyouwork Жыл бұрын
I just watched the Ben Patrick video, then your video popped up. Thanks for making starting the program at the "zero" level easy. Love your channel!
@leslieaharden6183
@leslieaharden6183 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Back in the 70's I was a runner and a backpacker and learned about walking backward--up hills, etc. This was great. You all are great. Thank you for sharing your website and so much guidance in your videos!
@manishtandel4199
@manishtandel4199 3 жыл бұрын
Bob hope you are allright. I used to watch your videos few months ago and just watching today I feel like you are not well. Hope your health is good. Keep up the good work on the videos.
@robbie31580
@robbie31580 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy to see you guys are sharing this approach. I’ve discovered it recently too and I finally feel like I’m actually rehabilitating my knee issues and muscles around it. Love your videos and thanks for everything guys!
@johnwilson3375
@johnwilson3375 2 жыл бұрын
Searched for this because my left knee has been hurting every day. Had surgery years ago for miniscus tear. Airrosti recently showed me what was going on, and gave me great stuff to make it feel better. However, the pain kept creeping back up, because I didn’t have anything preventive to strengthen my knees, so I did these exercises just now and it already feels better. I’m really really shocked right now. Thank you for posting this!!
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help!
@JJBpilot
@JJBpilot 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, those split squats need work, per Ben's system! I'm a huge fan and disciple of the ATG system. Walking backwards and the tib raises, along with the Patrick stepups (stepdowns?!) Are making a huge difference in this 62 year old runner's life! I currently jog backwards up a 75 yard hill 16 times, once a week now, as I don't have a Sled yet. Started three months ago with walking 6 times up, what a quad burn! Lower body has NEVER felt better.
@bennyhayes4283
@bennyhayes4283 2 жыл бұрын
No need for a sled. You can use a cheap tarp, and load it with weights, gravel, etc. Add some straps if you like. Drag forward as well as backward.
@Bitofeverything_
@Bitofeverything_ 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to share my experience. In January got reared ended like 60-70 mph at a red light and part of my cartilage ripped since my knee twisted. Went countless times to PT and Chiro, when I stumbled around this knees over toes program. Doctor had said surgery. With a combination of PT exercises that I still do, along with Chiro appointments sometimes, and the program; my knee has felt way better and starting to do run again. Walking backwards helps too, do at least ten min every other day at the track. Great video as always! Going the conservative way and hoping able to avoid surgery going this route
@CamelBlue777
@CamelBlue777 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! How's that knee these days?
@Bitofeverything_
@Bitofeverything_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@CamelBlue777 hey feels normal for most part. Sometimes feel an uncomfortable feeling but not really pain. Sometimes only when I workout at the gym and do walking lunges. However nothing like before. I will move on to the next excercise program once the one I’m doing feels 100% pain free. Which feels like a 1 or 2 out a 10 point scale. So almost moving on to the next one. Walking backwards helps too, for like ten min every other day
@ChrisRoxDuhh
@ChrisRoxDuhh 3 жыл бұрын
Picked up running 2 months ago. Under my left knee is killing me. I haven't ran in over 2 weeks out of fear of hurting myself. Glad I came across Bob and Brad.
@hunterpaige4512
@hunterpaige4512 2 жыл бұрын
What’d you do to combat/fix your pain?
@BlueRiptide
@BlueRiptide 2 жыл бұрын
Did it help?
@em-dy3hn
@em-dy3hn 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Patrick's ATG system is repairing my chronic ankle injury! Thank you so much for acknowledging and promoting the #KneesOverToesGuy !
@allsortsgifts6202
@allsortsgifts6202 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you’re doing an easier version of what Ben Patrick is doing. Thanks.
@manuelherrerahipnotista8586
@manuelherrerahipnotista8586 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have already improved my knees thanks to your advice and with this new video future look bright. Thankful for your open mind too
@jaytee2642
@jaytee2642 Жыл бұрын
I just found kneesovertoesguy a couple days ago. Blew my mind!🤯 Knees over toes has ALWAYS been a no-no! Very interesting to learn new viewpoints after all these years.👍🏻
@aka2388
@aka2388 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking it down and making it easy to follow!
@michaelvodinelich
@michaelvodinelich 2 жыл бұрын
Knees over toes changed my life. I have no acl or menicus in my left knee and do Bulgarian split squat with a 100 pound db with no pain full range of motion.
@mexicanburritogainz9273
@mexicanburritogainz9273 2 жыл бұрын
Totally unreal what you can accomplish with this approach, i also tore some ligaments in my early teens and just fixed it at 30, keep grinding brother.
@dtpace
@dtpace Ай бұрын
Incredible, super human!
@danielamestanek7899
@danielamestanek7899 3 жыл бұрын
so cool you also agree with the kneesovertoesguy! i have been doing his exercises to protect my knees as a runner and have to say they work... just got the roman chair/hyperextension machine for strengthening my posterior chain, too, seeing that he is recommending it. and the wall anchored elastic bands. all i need to supplement my running. (also, i would advise your viewers to check how he explains the ATG split squats as i am not sure you have explained them well here. f.e. the knee never touches the floor. the front foot can be on different heights of blocks, chairs, etc. in the zero program as it is much easier and allows for full range of motion. the front heel can be on the floor as well as elevated- 2 different versions). excelent video!!! thank you!!!
@luciusverusluciusverus3082
@luciusverusluciusverus3082 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Patrick is awesome and his approach works, good for you both for recognizing his talent and success 🙌
@VickiMaheu
@VickiMaheu 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’d been wondering whether I should try Ben’s workouts, now that Bob and Brad gave their stamp of approval I’m feeling more confident about it!
@TMChelle
@TMChelle 3 жыл бұрын
Can you share bens KZbin please?
@charlesanthony7954
@charlesanthony7954 3 жыл бұрын
@@TMChelle kneesovertoesguy
@KARENboomboomROXX
@KARENboomboomROXX 3 жыл бұрын
Ben's own story is plenty legit. He's in better shape than these guys! I listen to ppl who get results. But I still love these guys!!! 💕😎
@rafaelakatara8548
@rafaelakatara8548 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Do you believe the "Knees Over Toes" approach will benefit someone with patella dislocation to get strength?
@metamaeta
@metamaeta 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, love this info. ATG is exactly who I am wondering about today. Also, please get better mics.
@232323veljko
@232323veljko Жыл бұрын
They stepped a bit deep into the moves .tibialis raise is leaning on the wall cut the swings. Love you guys
@marilynjackson5752
@marilynjackson5752 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are so helpful. I love trying all of your exercises!
@theaussienurseflipper.8113
@theaussienurseflipper.8113 2 жыл бұрын
I have been to a physio about my knees. I'm in extreme pain. She said I need to knees replacements. L) knee only 90° and R) worst and can't straighten them. I been doing my own exercise in a heat pool nearly 7 Day a week. I have more movement and can get off a chair easier, but pain so bad I can't sleep. I going try these exercises in the pool. I'm only 52. I was taxi driver for over 20 years driving 12 to 16 hours a night 6 nights a week. I studied to be registered nurse finish in 2018 and list a lot of weight. But it was the real start in my knee pain. I had pain b4, but not like this.
@davegreene1198
@davegreene1198 2 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! That last split squat form needs tweaking... Gotta elevate the front foot and keep torso upright to get knee fully activated and then lower front foot as strength and balance improves. Thanks for the laughs!
@mgm2008
@mgm2008 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful that you have the videos on your website, in categories. I frequently look for specific ones on you tube and don't often find what I want from any channel. 👍
@nancyludlum2646
@nancyludlum2646 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, thanks for covering this! (and thanks for cutting out the chatter at the beginning)
@joseenoel8093
@joseenoel8093 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bob, I did your "clam ✂" and felt some opposite wiring flexing over my thawing hip, yay! I'll sometimes go downstairs backyards because "variety is the spice of life!"
@imho2278
@imho2278 3 жыл бұрын
Is this an AI generated comment?
@johndoe-sp1jt
@johndoe-sp1jt 3 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for flatback syndrome? You guys are great
@matthewm.begnoche5839
@matthewm.begnoche5839 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Goodman's Foundation Training. Ben Patrick's ATG is great for the front chain (with some good back chain work also), Foundation Training is all about the back chain. The two programs are a great complement to each other.
@Gemoct
@Gemoct 3 жыл бұрын
Love your evolving minds.
@Dakota.Covers
@Dakota.Covers 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing the zero program for several weeks and find it to be extremely beneficial. I will be utilizing the exercises for my physical therapy patients as appropriate. The technique of the exercises shown here are loosely accurate compared to the actual program which I recommend doing for proper technique.
@mattc4266
@mattc4266 3 жыл бұрын
Why pay for cookie cutter system
@Dakota.Covers
@Dakota.Covers 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattc4266 I did one month for $25 and it was truly worth it in preparing my knees for the hiking Grand Canyon.
@jackrogers5712
@jackrogers5712 2 жыл бұрын
How often should a person be doing these exercises? How many reps?
@anniegarrett994
@anniegarrett994 3 жыл бұрын
i love knees over toes guy!!
@fd_skate
@fd_skate 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys. 👍 I am curious of what you think about the toes over knee guys idea about the benefits of practicing with the back curved/bent. He often lifts weights with a bent back. I know that you often say that it's among the worst excercises/motions. 🙂
@bennyhayes4283
@bennyhayes4283 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I work in physical therapy, and what Ben is talking about is using a light enough weight that you OWN the movement through the entire range. Problems occur with overloading, and then jerking to complete the movement. The stretch occurs with the eccentric (lowering) movement through the entire posterior chain.
@KC-113
@KC-113 2 жыл бұрын
The Bob, Brad, and Ben Show!
@LulaJake
@LulaJake 3 жыл бұрын
backwards walking is very tiring but I can feel the muscles growing.
@Je5u5Freak69
@Je5u5Freak69 2 жыл бұрын
Ben is great and these guys are great. We appreciate y’all
@shirleybarcase6939
@shirleybarcase6939 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are down to Earth and "The Bomb" Thanks so much!!🙋‍♀️💕🎀🐰
@rodgerbane3825
@rodgerbane3825 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion of you guys, went out the roof on this one.
@carlosjavierramirez8745
@carlosjavierramirez8745 3 жыл бұрын
The knees over toes guy is the best trainer ever 👑
@alejandrop.s.3942
@alejandrop.s.3942 2 жыл бұрын
Hay un canal llamado noregretspt que es muy bueno también, a mí me ayudó muchísimo.
@georgedickson2350
@georgedickson2350 2 жыл бұрын
How are these guys so great?
@denvergriffin5555
@denvergriffin5555 2 жыл бұрын
The first step is to realize that our modern sedentary lifestyles and postures cause our joints to weaken, shrink and lose capability - the "sitting disease." The second step is to start correcting that in a very measured, careful, progressive way. Ben Patrick's stuff does that. It is amazing how fast it comes back when you take your time and gradually increase strength and range of motion. I'm 59, had meniscus repair two years ago, and conventional PT never restored full ROM in that knee. The ATG program has been amazing. ATG Knee Zero - simple stuff, bodyweight only, using assistance wherever needed, never working through pain - is where you want to start.
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100 percent. Thanks Bob
@vedang8936
@vedang8936 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@steverg2
@steverg2 2 жыл бұрын
Ben's approach has me running faster, jumping higher, and generally feeling more athletic at 35 than in my early 20s
@Better_Call_Raul
@Better_Call_Raul 2 жыл бұрын
Are the exercises in this video helpful for people with mild to moderate knee osteoarthritis? I am guessing yes, as long as it feels comfortable.
@DarrenCobin
@DarrenCobin Жыл бұрын
Love your videos guys. I hope you're ok with a bit of constructive criticism. The way you demonstrated the knee over toe split squat left a lot to be desired. First of all if someone has severe knee pain, elevating their front foot on a box or stack of weight plates is a good beginning progression for people that can't support a lot of their body weight while driving the knee toward deep flexion. When someone is ready to have their foot on the floor, the knee shouldn't be immediately going past the toes. You should try to sink downward first, then forward, NOT the other way around. If the knee goes past the toes after the hips are lowered to knee height or lower there is way less pressure put on the knee than if you start driving the knee past the toes while the hips are higher than the knees. Some of these seemingly small details really change the experience and outcome, especially for people with meniscus damage and/or arthritis in their knees.
@jonathanpopham5483
@jonathanpopham5483 2 жыл бұрын
a great way to regress with the split squat is to put your front foot up higher. you can also hang a band from a pull up bar and use that to help slowly lower yourself. one thing to remember is to try to straighten the back leg if you can. always work in pain free function. best wishes
@marcotero679
@marcotero679 3 жыл бұрын
Love KOT solute Ben Patrick !
@loverunning1096
@loverunning1096 2 жыл бұрын
Love your shirts. Thank you for all your awesome videos ❤️❤️❤️
@NYboop72
@NYboop72 3 жыл бұрын
What if your knees are already in horrible shape? Bone on bone? What exercise if any can help? These hurt!!
@duriart3
@duriart3 Жыл бұрын
I'll try later but thank you
@dnvrmom
@dnvrmom 2 жыл бұрын
My knees just began hurting for the first time. If they hurt when I do these, should I do them anyway?
@clairelaskey5592
@clairelaskey5592 6 ай бұрын
Even for severe knee osteoarthritis. Bone on bone?
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 6 ай бұрын
Here are some videos that are better for you: www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=knee%20osteoarthritis
@sherrythomas6261
@sherrythomas6261 3 жыл бұрын
What videos do you have for Lymphedema
@samallen4147
@samallen4147 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@marekkucak6581
@marekkucak6581 3 жыл бұрын
You should invite Ben to make a video. That would be awesome.
@gloriayoga
@gloriayoga 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimately the body is a machine with the ability to heal itself to some degree. I think it would be interesting to interview a mechanical engineer explaining the destructive force put on the knee when it is bent at an acute angle. When they design structures and machinery, they have to keep that wear and tear in mind. Seems like there is a formula using the weight of the structure and angle of the joint to determine pressure on the joint. Maybe I'm wrong but seems like it puts a sheering force on the cartilage. Once the cartilage is worn away the joint experiences pain. While the knee can bend at an acute angle it comes with an orthopedic cost. The cost is unnoticeable at first but excruciating by the time you realize you've worn out the cartilage.
@bumface1810
@bumface1810 Жыл бұрын
So are you saying you’re skeptical of the knees over toes program?
@waheedaazeez3910
@waheedaazeez3910 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! 👍🙏
@ritahartono2645
@ritahartono2645 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any reasons why knees over toes is good for knee pain? Im 57yrs with OA grade 2
@Better_Call_Raul
@Better_Call_Raul 2 жыл бұрын
It is not clear from this video whether these exercises are suitable for people with moderate knee OA. I am assuming yes, **IF** it feels comfortable. As for why it helps, Bob alludes to it in the video. Saying knees over toes strengthens a different part of the knee/quad and is also what we do in real life when climbing stairs and running.
@lonew2657
@lonew2657 Жыл бұрын
Keep learning, keep questioning and you'll never get old.
@Better_Call_Raul
@Better_Call_Raul 2 жыл бұрын
Are the "level 0" exercises in this video helpful for people with mild to moderate knee osteoarthritis? I am guessing yes, as long as it feels comfortable?
@deniset8380
@deniset8380 2 жыл бұрын
can you go to PT when you have edema around knee without MRI? Ultrasound said possible hematoma, seroma versus burst bakers cyst continue with pain and now swelling around inner part of knee? Have been using MICE without improvement. Help, can't get into PT for over 10days
@abhaychowdhery8405
@abhaychowdhery8405 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Experts, I have a torn ACL please help me out i can't workout, hike, run, jump. Going nuts over here.
@botfantasies6229
@botfantasies6229 2 жыл бұрын
At gonline coaching
@tracy3812
@tracy3812 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot do the anterior tibialis exercise. Is there a starter exercise so I can build up to it? Ty.
@marklanston7256
@marklanston7256 3 жыл бұрын
Lean against the wall and raise your toes
@GeorgeOu
@GeorgeOu 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody has ever gotten stronger at something by avoiding it, and it always results in getting weaker at that motion which makes you even more prone to injury. The fitness profession has too many "never do this exercise or motion" rules. In stead they should tell people that doing a particular exercise works a particular set of muscles and that some people need to be aware of the risks of overdoing something, and that they need to progressively work to improve it rather than avoid it.
@ianonbass
@ianonbass 3 жыл бұрын
Description says Joe Rogan. Its Ben Patrick to be correct
@gracefulfish
@gracefulfish 3 жыл бұрын
What causes me intense pain if I am walking through a room, and happen to catch my leg on a piece of furniture in a way that pulls the inside of the leg outward only slightly but suddenly?
@MMABeijing
@MMABeijing 3 жыл бұрын
where is the pain, around groin area?
@realbutters
@realbutters 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone hook a brother up with how many sets/reps are recommended of these various exercises?
@samstipes2010
@samstipes2010 3 жыл бұрын
My best guess is that it's not intended to overwork. So try doing the various exercises and when it starts to feel uncomfortable make a note and ever couple weeks increase from that minimum point. A good multiplier is always 3. So 3 sets of 8 or 10 etc. You should see incremental increases in muscle durability as well as strength. Then change the multiplier to 4 and 5 to increase the value and gain of each workout. Happy knees, Happy life. Best of luck.
@realbutters
@realbutters 3 жыл бұрын
@@samstipes2010 Thanks Sam!
@PappaMustafa
@PappaMustafa 2 жыл бұрын
Hope yall collab with "kneesovertoesguys"
@lorencapps8510
@lorencapps8510 3 жыл бұрын
which is better wood or plastic incline boards
@samstipes2010
@samstipes2010 3 жыл бұрын
Whichever feels comfortable to you, slipping is the main concern. I would say the pitch of the surface is more important then the material used to create.
@franciscovega4085
@franciscovega4085 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching these guys when they had less than 100k subs
@tomschmitt8561
@tomschmitt8561 2 жыл бұрын
There are some errors the way Brad and Bob deliver, sorry guys 🙃, at 4:00 it is not ok to have your butt move, you should have your bum leaning against the wall and the farther you feet are from the wall the more advanced/strenuous the exercise…. Love you guys!!
@BobandBrad
@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom for the feedback! Bob
@DarthNoshitam
@DarthNoshitam 3 жыл бұрын
I used to not have any knee pain, but after 6 months of doing the knees over toes program, I now have intermittent knee pain 😕
@oppoaction
@oppoaction 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what happens when you train through pain and discomfort. You’re supposed to slowly build up your strength over time without pushing through the pain. It’s not that the program didn’t work, it’s that you didn’t follow the problem properly. I’ve been using this program for over a year now and it’s helped me and tons of other people a lot.
@ENERGYONXBOX
@ENERGYONXBOX 3 жыл бұрын
@@oppoaction knees over toes guy is the worst thing to happen to fitness
@oppoaction
@oppoaction 3 жыл бұрын
@@ENERGYONXBOX Don’t knock it until you try it and do it right 😉
@DarthNoshitam
@DarthNoshitam 3 жыл бұрын
@@oppoaction I used to not have a pain, and now I do. Training through pain did not cause my problem.
@ENERGYONXBOX
@ENERGYONXBOX 3 жыл бұрын
@@oppoaction the right way to strengthen the knee would be to use practical strength training program. Good luck with your progress 👏
@Vulneravariable
@Vulneravariable 2 жыл бұрын
If this isn’t the reincarnation of click and clack the tappet brothers, I don’t know what is. “Whatever you do, don’t listen to my brother.” Classic.
@mickelsmickle8668
@mickelsmickle8668 2 жыл бұрын
There is no infor6mation on whether this will help with your meniscus
@michaelkulman7095
@michaelkulman7095 2 жыл бұрын
Well they had this study from the 1960's or 70's showing more "shear force" at the knee, with knee beyond toe which is true and just said avoid it or that's what most took away from the paper which didn't exactly say that. It does put a lot of force on the knee but carefully built up to and applied that might be okay is the idea put forward here. Be careful, the progressions exist for a reason even the advocates of this say! It's still controversial so consider that. Don't just jump into it and attempt sissy squats, for example and if something hurts don't do it. Experts currently disagree so I'm just expressing the rationale not endorsing any school of thought per se. You get this a lot. If you do good mornings you could injure your lower back but some carefully use it to strengthen their lower back...some say start with a broomstick and some say just don't do it, period! Different people including experts hold to different schools of thought and the consensus isn't always right. I describe the way it is I don't advocate anything for everyone I am not an expert. This response was for entertainment purposes only...
@mariaska7819
@mariaska7819 3 жыл бұрын
I like your fantastic tips and exercises but I am totally confused about the last exercise in this video. You said previously that knees should not be bend more than 90 degrees. The last exercise clairly demands knees to be bend over this limit ( considered safe for knee health). Why is that ?
@jambononi
@jambononi 3 жыл бұрын
Well, as they say in the video, they have changed their opinions on whether to train over your knees. Watch the KZbin channel 'KneesOverToesGuy' to really go in depth on this. But basically, if you only train at a 90 degree angle, then when you encounter situations where your knees go beyond that (running, jumping, sitting, going down stairs) you will start to develop injuries and pain. So you're better off training and strengthening over your toes so that you prevent injury. It's basically been a massive mistake by the fitness industry for the last 30 years that you shouldn't train points of weakness, whereas obviously you should, to prevent injury in real life situations.
@rctrix9063
@rctrix9063 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no physio but pulling your knees up to your butt, one at a time while sitting, is a no load method of working your knee motion. If you can't do this you should practice until you can. Don't do squats if you can't.
@brettmasonmedia
@brettmasonmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Is Brad ok? He talks like he’s had a stroke. Hope all is well
@marytracy2904
@marytracy2904 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that he had a lot of dental work and that’s the reason for the slurring.
@brettmasonmedia
@brettmasonmedia 3 жыл бұрын
@@marytracy2904 ok that is good to hear. Wishing him the best of health!
@marytracy2904
@marytracy2904 3 жыл бұрын
@@brettmasonmedia at first I thought he was celebrating 🍻 being one of the two most famous physical therapists on the internet. 😂
@valjeanelander5700
@valjeanelander5700 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing
@peterbulloch4328
@peterbulloch4328 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds like he's 5 beers in!
@ElisPalmer
@ElisPalmer Ай бұрын
🙏🏼
@joeschmo7957
@joeschmo7957 Жыл бұрын
If you cannot do a full squat, it is you heel cord and calf muscles that need stretching.
@daoud1608
@daoud1608 3 жыл бұрын
No offense but I would recommend going to the source. He has lots of progressions and regressions.
@alejandrop.s.3942
@alejandrop.s.3942 2 жыл бұрын
Given that this channel has more followers they have probably done a great job simply publishing it, and a lot of people will go to the source, obviously.
@daoud1608
@daoud1608 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrop.s.3942 true. Like I said no offense. I just want to make sure people to get a more comprehensive understanding as I have benefited so much from it.
@alejandrop.s.3942
@alejandrop.s.3942 2 жыл бұрын
@@daoud1608 I know right. Btw, I recommend you a channel called noregretspt, it's great too. It helpt me with my weak, painful knees.
@jaymula6660
@jaymula6660 Жыл бұрын
It just goes to show you even after all these years the wheel can be really reinvented.
@shamrock8561
@shamrock8561 2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t swing your hips when you are working your tibialis . Your back should be against the wall with your feet away from the wall in front of you with your feet together. Press heels in the floor and raise your toes off the floor and up , hold for a second and go back down.
@mundomagico7787
@mundomagico7787 3 жыл бұрын
B&B okaying KOT is like the RHS accepting no dig! 😝
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck walking, running, climbing stairs and going downstairs without your knees crossing over your toes. Don't want knee pain? Trade it for hip&ankle pain! No. Please don't. Become resilient.
@cocoablini
@cocoablini 2 жыл бұрын
Ben Patrick's video has some extreme gonzo stuff and it can scare folks. But the zero program has sub-zero progressions that are assisted. Even his 70 year old Mom cranks them out.
@duriart3
@duriart3 Жыл бұрын
But Brad keep in mind. .. for some of us it's a simple movement
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