The Koei Tecmo Rant

[@DrakeVagabond]

It has recently been brought to my attention that the costumes for DW8 can be bought through the Complete Edition on PS4. This is an oversight on my part as I do not make purchases through console or gaming interface, and the PSN site only lists the PS3 version of the DLC. Thank you *avataboo* for bringing this to my attention, an I am sorry for the misinformation. This will come up in the next update video.

[@Vexal50]

Another slight mistake. Toukiden 2 had a demo. They removed the demo when releasing the Freemium version (which doesn't implement the freemium aspects until the demo section would have ended) since it would have been redundant to have both

[@Makoto03]

Thank you so much for this!! My biggest issue with Koei is how lazy (and greedy) they've become with their localization. I first noticed it back with Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn. Not only was it the only game in the series with no english dub, it was also digital only for near full price! At the time i was annoyed but i rode it off as more Namco's doing, since they've since been doing lazy subtitle only releases since then for alot of their anime licensed titles. But then i saw Koei removing the dubs from their own established series like Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors, which had them in the beginning. But it really got bad this year when they released the latest Atelier titles, Lydie and Suelle, as a subtitle only game. That series has always had an english dub which i enjoyed and it made me like Koei for taking the time to include it, when bigger publishers like Namco were too lazy. God i don't know where that series will go from now on. I imagine it will continue down this road, so Koei can keep a profit. It wouldn't be so bad if they at least reflected this in the game's pricing. Theres no reason to charge full price for titles that clearly haven't had the same localization effort as past games. Even if they only reduced these games to $50, that would be better than nothing.

[@BasicSneedEducation]

I really miss the English dubs. The ps2 era was great.

[@TheRICKY85]

Dynasty Warriors 9 could have been good, KT just made it wrong.

[@YujiUedaFan]

I like DW9... just don't like how easy it is to get the best weapons and that they're shared. Plus some character's stories end too early, despite being able to fight them later in the timeline.

[@Moonslayer01]

@@YujiUedaFan for one dynasty warriors 9 is dog shit because everyone except lu bu have clone weapons and the controls is basically button mashing, the voice acting is abysmal and the pronounciation is fucking terrible, the cut scenes are a joke because it's bland and lifeless, they would just stand there with their god awful voice acting and just talk that's it. Dw9 is a joke and Im baffled by the people who say that it's good

[@wahidpawana424]

@@Moonslayer01 i think the combat system, on paper, is a really good idea, however it is executed very poorly. If you play the game normally, you don't see much of an issue, but when you start to play the side challenges, and said challenges requires you to fight more then 2 enemy officers, the whole combat system starts to crumble and starts to feel clunky and sometimes, unresponsive to the command that you give.

[@eastreddragon]

Koei's laziness has been particularly abhorrent in recent years. MOST of their games feel entirely unfinished nowadays. Stemming from the fact they feel the need to oversaturate the market with 2-3 Warriors games a YEAR (Ubisoft gets crap here giving a yearly Assassin's Creed release, and Koei tries to triple that number), as well as the fact most of their products are just rampant corner cutting. All of their games in recent times have either been shoddily finished with the nucleus of a good idea, or an asset flip of their own assets. Spirit of Sanada was great... why couldn't this have just been SW4 DLC? Same with SW4-2 Why was Warriors All Stars basically a quarter of a game that they just decided to run through save-scrubbing? Why have they not bothered to update the movesets for Fu Xi and Nuwa in Warriors Orochi 4, even though they've been using the same movesets since Dynasty Warriors 5. Koei's laziness is going to be the death of them.

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

Am I the only one who thinks that SW4-II feels like a demotion of the original SW4?

[@UGOTNUKED]

The Samurai Warriors 4 asset reuse was especially egregious. SW 4 was great, 4-2 was not. Empires was okay. Okay, here are our 3 games as always. But wait, here is Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3, which is literally SW4 with a different, better progression system. It was actually a great game, but just 4 again. Same characters, same stages, nothing new. Then we got SW Spirit of Sanada, which is one of my favorite Musous to date and a direction I hope they will go in more often. But again, it's just SW4 with a different story focus. And of course we're going to use the assets and movesets again in Warriors Orochi 4. That means they reused the same assets in 6 different games. Which was especially problematic since SW4 had this stupid level up system where your characters would start out with only a fraction of their moves. But the bigger problem with KT is actually Gust. Their games suffer the most and often feel unfinished and rushed. Oh, and don't get me started on the shitty port quality to other systems, where it's clear they don't spend any time or budget on.

[@tmma1869]

Koei providing DW9 the worst English dub and Samurai Warriors 4 games not being dubbed while Naotora gets an English voice in Dead or Alive 5. Yeah, #FuckKOEI

[@UGOTNUKED]

I don't mind the Japanese dub in SW, it fits the setting well and it's actually a great dub. I especially love Nobunaga. However, most other Japanese dubs are simply more boring than the fun English dubs we used to get. After achieving such a great quality in terms of localization in DW7, it's just sad how they're going backwards.

[@hjoehj0996]

I just want them to actually listen to their fans and put real effort into the games,I absolutely loved WO3 but WO4 gave me no happiness in beating or playing. They need to put more effort in

[@touger666]

The commercial you're looking for is actually a Ninja Gaiden 2 commercial, not Dead or Alive.

[@boywoofie]

I’m just glad they didn’t decide to make a “fortnite meets warriors orochi” title

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

The mention of that idea alone just gave me an irritable bowel syndrome.

[@hjoehj0996]

Please no I don’t want orochi to be a fucking plushie

[@cameronfield7313]

Okay, I agree with Koei Tecmo chasing trends, but I have to at least defend Nioh and Toukiden because Nioh and Toukiden were actually fun and unique enough to stand differently from other games like them. Nioh had an in depth combat system compared to Dark Souls' simplistic combat and Toukiden brought an interesting, Shinto spin on a Monster Hunter-style game for people who enjoy more Eastern Culture Monsters than Western Culture ones. There's a reason why those two ended up getting sequels. Not to mention, still really good sequels.

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

Very nice video Mr. Drake. Not long ago Jim Sterling and Sex Gravy also posted a video in regards to Koei-Tecmo, which more or less the same thing on what you said in this video. Looks like it's something that most of us in the KTFamily can agree on. I keep seeing shills btw defending Koei-Tecmo's practice, and the reason they keep giving is the "games are too expensive and hard to make" argument.

[@Megumi_Bandicoot]

*DrakeVagabond has defeated Koei Tecmo!* *Koei Tecmo’s unit has been eliminated!*

[@Abigdummy4life]

*[Insert random unit name here]'s morale is skyrocketing!*

[@MukurokuroIkusaba]

DrakeVagabond: Enemy Officer defeated!

[@DaakkuuYRS]

Koei didn't just die, they were murdered. Is this joke is too corny for now?

[@Abigdummy4life]

@@MukurokuroIkusaba 敵将, 討ち取ったり! TEKISHOU, UCHITOTTARI!

[@mikeraizuly9682]

I wish terrorist bomb Koei racist fuckers

[@N1ceDreamsz]

A lot of those games do have demos.. Problem is there usually only on Asian servers.

[@jyanbei]

Honestly my biggest gripe with Koei Tecmo is the fact that they dont give af about their western audience. They literally only listen to their Japanese customers. Notice the lack of strong AI in any of the recent games, the extreme push for Naotora (if you dont know or understand Naotora is REALLY fan serviced by the Japanese fans whereas in the west, shes ok.). I wish they would just listen to us too

[@Tyrik73]

I liked wo3 and wo3 Ultimate for strong ai soldiers that hit back.

[@YujiUedaFan]

Does WO4 have weaker enemies though?

[@MiniMight]

I mean, they don't have as much impact as a publisher like bandai namco in the west, a lot of their games don't even have dubs, and the overwhelming majority of their player base is in Japan, not that surprising

[@ShadowWolfRising]

@@MiniMight Are they actually though? I was under the impression Dynasty Warriors was pretty popular outside Japan.

[@RandomCollection04]

a japanese company ignoring overseas audiences? never heard that before

[@MrDarksol]

Damn a very nicely done rant and it's pretty much everything I've heard about from Tecmo Koei. But Jesus even after all this time a lot of their games haven't lowered in price what the hell and blue reflection was published by Tecmo koei!? I did not know that but now I learned something again thanks Drake and the company really should look themselves in the eye and think what can we do to better improve ourselves. Again fantastic rant and keep it up 👍.

[@MrLawrencecorn]

I dont care how, but i hope this video gets to koeitecmo.

[@TheHitmanCoz]

What I wouldn't give for Warriors Orochi 4 to have English voice acting

[@Tyrik73]

Wo2 for psp was last wo game to have English dub.

[@TheFlameSlayer]

DW9 was designed poorly. having a hook that allows you to bypass walls whats the point in even having a wall?. the whole realism idea of having people wield the same weapon for realistic purposes was proven false as they added DLC claws and such. the open world is barren and empty. and honestly it really doesent work with the primary idea (now if they had experimented this idea on the empire series and kept their core series as it is then maybe it would work because empires like drake said is all about freedom but the main game people play it for the story to be the character and it doesent work when your running around hunting wolves or other open world things.)

[@SwordofHeaven89]

It's really sad to see a company like Koei can get influenced by anything but can't stand on their own two feet. When I heard about the SJW and they not bring the DOA3Xtreme to the states, I actually lost some respect to the company.

[@akai9744]

Nah thats a good move. They need to do that to at least one title to show the negative impact of sjw

[@InugamiTheHound]

I wish Koei tech would bring over the older DW,SW and gundam DW and Warriors Orochi 1 and 2 games from the 360 to the xb1. Along bringing SW4 and empires to the xb1 as well. Xbox gamers want to play stand alone SW game since SW2.

[@XthemastaX]

Good video. Koei has always had some funky shadiness behind their history, and think the present-day has shown Koei's true colors. They have truly deviated from their humble beginnings and just want to make hack-jobs for full price games, and then make an 'improvement' edition of a game, only giving marginal changes to the same game for the same price, which alienates early adopters and fans. Also, you spelled 'KoeiTecmo' wrong in the hashtags, and Cao Pi is still using his DW6 sword instead of the DW6Special sword in the 4:20 explanation. Minor nitpick, couldn't help but notice. EDIT: Toukiden 2 had a demo but it was limited-time.

[@idndyzgaming]

Nice

[@The4thSnake]

The Sixaxis thing is from NG Sigma 2. I still have it somewhere from the DOA Timeline video if you need it in future. DOA3 had "she kicks high".

[@ShadowWolfRising]

I miss Kessen. Just imagine one set in the Orochi setting. Complete freedom to do whatever they want with story. Also the lack of dub actually hurts gameplay in the Warriors games, the lazy/cheap gits.

[@Arkhanium]

And absolutely nobody talks about the fact that they are starting to sell their games at higher prices in some countries....Exemple: Dynasty warriors 9 was sold at 59$99 in US, but 69€99 in EU, and i don't even talk about the others countries...same for Attack on titans 2, and Warrior Orochi 4...so for EU customers it's not *full price tag* for games, it's full price tag + whatever they want to squeeze out of the EU customers wallets...

[@jlt6673]

Nioh was great though. Yeah, it wasn't totally original, but both Toukiden and Nioh were at least pretty decent variations of a genre.

[@Darkheart1413]

Nioh is a great game, not played toukiden but also looks good. I don’t know much about team ninja company, but I wish they would be the ones to make dynasty warriors from now on.

[@Sephivoiceactor]

First time watcher. Found this video highly interesting

[@Yurihyuga766]

I’m pissed at koei for not releasing Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn for ps4. Instead, they just keep focusing on Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors. If they’re not gonna release Reborn, at least make Dynasty Warriors Gundam 5

[@surprisebox920]

I agree it's not like it use to be

[@mistergremm735]

Bro, making Samurai warriors 3Z (The good version) only japan without bothering to localize it is insults added to injuries because now in the west we're stuck with the WII ver. which runs horribly

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

Agree, makes me wonder why they didn't just have Samurai Warriors 3 on the PS3 in the first place.

[@altyriaalty8756]

i have samurai warriors 3Z and i loved it.

[@normallyimnuts767]

The digital stores are unfortunately why I don't buy too many titles digitally. The prices remain stagnant, with the thumbnail representing the game almost becoming a gravestone of sorts...born at a bad price, forgotten about, n now areminder of just how lost to time some digital only media could become. Just drop by Amazon a couple months after any of the games you mentioned released, and they're generally about $25 to $30 off on a regular day. On a good day however, $19.99. Edit---OF COURSE after a good couple years/late into a console's lifespan, the prices I mentioned automatically go in the opposite direction. And every Japanese developed title from the first 2 years of that generation automatically become "rare". Bc resellers are idiots, who generally know nothing about the stuff they're peddling to unsuspecting game fans (purposely differentiating from collectors) and ruin any enjoyment left in game collecting.

[@Moonslayer01]

I'm still pissed that samurai warriors 3 is a Wii exclusive....I really asked myself.....WHY just why Wii of all fucking consoles

[@cheekyfantasy1314]

There is a disconnect in KT corporate and the fans

[@Gojira98]

I disagree with your Nioh statement, it is much more than a Souls game. Or at least it does things different enough to not be a clone.

[@wahidpawana424]

KOEI isn't the only problem, their rabid fanbase is to be blamed as well. Their PC port of Atelier Ryza 2 was a hot mess of lag and ceashes at launch, yet their rabid fans are quick to defend them and poor shamed me by not having a 1080ti gpu to fix the issue (i have a rx480 which is within their minimum requirement). Had to use DXVK to bandaid the issue.

[@Koenji]

Awesome video, one thing I would note though is that DOA6, as of the TGS build is filled with fan service. Down to butt and boob jiggle physics. That said, how Koei Tecmo prices their games will still and will always be a problem unless they change their ways.

[@tricksalot2]

One waifuu isn't gonna change anything and the two ninja sisters are still twigs.

[@tricksalot2]

@@frizen9328 it changes alot of things they're still on that sjw train ride despite ths back tracking the only thing that can save them is doax3 and vv fetish dlc cause even sc vi is slaughtering them when it comes to body proportions.

[@sonogamirinne7172]

@@frizen9328 you just said the true about this video and this youtuber

[@tdrew337]

Dynasty Warriors 3-5 were the best

[@takarifan]

Great video as always, Drake! So it appears that Koei Tecmo had been screwing around for so long, even for me a PC gamer, didn't know that console gamers were much worse being manipulated by their company's marketing policy. I really think that KT has yet to learn from their past mistakes on creating a complete and exciting game in their catalogue without cutting corners to make money for DLCs. Unfortunately, if they really want to regain our trust in their company's ability to make a satisfying gaming experience, they really have to try their very best to release Warriors Orochi 4 and Dead or Alive 6 with the highest reception of fan approval in both the console and PC versions. That's a lot of plates to juggle for them, compare to 8 years ago.

[@hundredfaye618]

12:11 The pricing part of this aged poorly. Koei Tecmo just released “DX” versions of all 3 Atelier games you mentioned, which go for $40 rather than $60. Still no demo though.

[@Kirnale]

Still too expensive. Remember: FF7 remake costs 20-30€ and that is a high-budget game in every way. Old Atelier games should be priced at 20-30 € at most, whereas newer games can be placed at 40 €.

[@NICOLASQQQ]

I cant enjoy the story mode for Warriors games, since I can't read whats going on on screen and play at the same time.

[@CommanderWilliams]

Yeah, I just skip all the cutscenes in Samurai Warriors 4 and 4-2 since so I miss so much in the battles its not even worth it. Pretty much the same reason I hate watching subbed Anime.

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

True, and not to forget that they didn't even fully dub Dynasty Warriors 8 as well. The narration and camp session of DW8 were completely silenced for whatever reason.

[@altyriaalty8756]

i have no problem reading what they say. i also prefer the game in japanese, because the emotion is stronger and proper feeling of the characters is displayed.

[@TheXam96]

Regarding the import or remix feature in the Xtreme Legends titles,actually the data of the base game is still available in the Xtreme Legends titles but the import or remix feature essentially checks the disk of the base game to look for an unlock key of sorts and once it finds it then the features of the base game becomes available on the XL games for that session or at least that's what I'm led to believe.

[@Moonslayer01]

Dynasty warriors 7 is the best comeback game of all time

[@fornogoodreason551]

fair, well thought out video

[@DrakeVagabond]

fair? maybe. well thought out? IAINTGOTTIMEFORTHATSHIT

[@nathanrileyjones]

living. for. this.

[@yenjin583]

yeah fuck Koei Tecmo *proceeds to buy Warriors Orochi 4*

[@JD-dm1uj]

Couldn’t agree with you more, I’ve bought nearly every game and spin-off they’ve produced and I’m now hesitant to preorder WO4!

[@DaakkuuYRS]

As for the price tags for off the radar the games like Blue Reflection and Nights of Azure: I don't know about US, but in UK there IS a physical copies for them. I bought Blue Reflection from BASE on 15 pounds. The price there for Nights of Azure and the sequel is the same, so is for most Ateleir games. Is it just in UK and not America?

[@angelyangel8398]

Did you look at the seasonpass for Blue Reflection, besides it's launch price was around €60, same with NoZ2 + they removed free dlc 2 weeks after launch. People getting game later miss out. Sure the prices sometimes dropped ~6 months later, probably due this. Atelier Lydie & Suelle €60+€80 seasonpass, here in EU the standard physical version had no preorder dlc like the rest of the world, they didn't bother to clarify nor make up for that, while advertising with it. Atelier Nelke will probably be the same as there's a €80 seasonpass for that game in JP. Btw the CE's of those games cost £89 without shipping only & that price rarely drops too. The prices are same in US but with $. We pay more here in EU a lot of people just don't know as they get game on sale after diehard fans buy/import if they know. Also in the past those games had english dubs (luckily I prefer with sub) so people that bought games because of that will lose out now too, as they went to sub only for same price h those seasonpass on top off that. We already don't even get all dlc as JP either & pay more in the long run.

[@TheRICKY85]

I get some of their older titles on sale, a lot of the time I spend less than half of that price.

[@Christmas_Milk]

It's gotten to the point where I'm surprised they've made it this far without going out of business.

[@DrZuluGaming]

I never understood the "Lack of english dubs=lazy" thing that a lot of people like to say. I mean, dubs, even if it's made by non-union actors, cost a lot of money. Money wasted on niche titles mostly where adding a dub will limit the profit of a game. I understand that not everyone has the patience to either read subtitles or learn a new language but if you complain about japanese games having japanese voices that would be like complaining that Terminator is about robots. However, I can understand how a lack of english dub can be see as a deterrent since I also refuse to buy games for a lack of dubs. I didn't buy Blazblue Central Fiction because of its lack of an english dub. But that's because, before CF, every Blazblue games before always has an english dub. And that's upset a lot of people since that meant that instead of giving the fans the opportunity to give Patrick Seitz the chance to tell the final chaper of Ragna's story, they decided to rush the release date because E-Sports. I'm not upset when games like Yakuza or Senran Kagura (which is as fast paced as Dynasty Warriors) aren't dubbed. I'm upset when a game from a long franchise never gets a dub despite how they were dubbed in the past. (This is why I don't buy Atelier Lydie and Suelle. Because, despite being the last entry of a trilogy, they didn't dub this one) Heck. I'm pondering if I should buy Strange Journey Redux despite its lack of english dub since the SMT franchise always came up with english dubs even though I'm not too fond of the Persona games localisation (Not a huge fan of japanese honorifics in english scripts said by english actors).

[@DrakeVagabond]

Okay you clearly missed all the points of the argument. But then explain the reasons why I made my arguments. So I don't know what you're trying to get at.

[@DrZuluGaming]

Sorry. I was rambling.

[@liuxaun8385]

Warriors of Troy was Koei Canada. Don’t know if that was an error, or just an odd time to sync the Koei Europe comment.

[@DrakeVagabond]

yeah, there was supposed to be a caption there. guess it did save

[@tmma1869]

KOEI providing DW9 the worst English dub. Warriors Orochi 3, maybe Warriors Orochi 4, and Dissidia Opera Omnia were understandable about the lack of English dub, but the Empires games post-DW6 and the SW4 games while Naotora gets an English voice in Dead or Alive 5? Or some Gust titles? Nope. I'm glad Dissidia NT, even though it's a bad game for most, isn't stuck with KOEI's no dub policy. I do hope Atelier Nelke will be like Dissidia NT for dual audio. #FucKOEI

[@angelyangel8398]

Welcome to the club. I think I'm actually past the ranting stage. I lost interest in pre-ordering & buying any of my fav. franchises games they sell @launch due those sickening practices. I can even imagine some people resorting to piracy due this. I think too little people boycot them & those die hard fans with money to burn don't help either. I wonder where their bottom line is, mine was crossed already. I think we gamers should vote more with our wallets & stand up more to prevent more of such practices as it isn't healthy business nor fun in the long run. It's getting out of control, soon you'll pay the price of a handheld, gamesystem or other hardware for 1 base game + dlc we're already getting close to half price for some games.

[@tempanon8672]

Concerning cosmetic DLC not being available in DW8XL Complete Edition, it is all available and should transfer over if purchased for one "version" of the game. Cosmetics bought for just DW8 vanilla will be usable in DW8XL Complete if purchased, at least on the Playstation family of systems. I do not know if this is some sort of problem exclusive to the Microsoft consoles.

[@DrakeVagabond]

You have to buy the vanilla game in order to buy the cosmetics then buy the complete version and transfer the save data. How needlessly complex?

[@tempanon8672]

Is that just for Microsoft? My experience with PSN allows me to buy the DLC without the base game, which then counts as purchased in other versions/systems via their "Cross-Buy" feature.

[@DrakeVagabond]

ah, I see. then I was wrong. thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[@tempanon8672]

Is alright. It's oddly handy, then again I'm silly enough to rebuy Koei games on better systems in the first place. :P

[@takotenjin]

*Not mentioning how much it costs to have all of the content of doa 5.*

[@diagtot8310]

totally agree... kt is probably the worst japanese game publisher. not a big fan of their own games, but am a huge gust fan and it pains me to see how their games get treated. way to greedy and delusional. especially their reasons why some are only digital baffles my mind (e.g. they draw comparasions with games that didnt sell well in the most abstract way imaginable)

[@LightyTheNube]

Awesome vid! It really does confuse me but I wouldn't say pain me as much as most {because I'm a fool who will buy the game without thinking lol} when they make games like DW but then also give out Xtreme Legends on the side for the same price. Literally, especially in DW8 and DW8XL, the XL just becomes a complete copy and paste of the base DW that they released first but with slightly new content that could easily be an expansion for a reasonable price. I felt the same with almost all DWs and SWs as well. Unfortunately we are in the era where companies will do moves like this, just to earn an extra buck. To a degree I understand with wanting to get as much profit as possible but at the end of the day, if they just wait a little longer, get all that content that they left out in the base DWs & SWs to put into the XLs and just put into one game. There wouldn't be as many complaints, and much more profit {in my personal unprofessional opinion} because you'll have a COMPLETE game that people would give so much better reviews on! But yeah! Great video!

[@ozy667]

I loved this video, so true

[@ryan7337]

Man, when you mentioned Ninja Gaiden… That's a series I had forgotten about for the longest time! Ninja Gaiden Black was the only one I ever played, and it was SO not meant for my 6 year old hand-eye coordination, but from what I remember it was a HELL of a good time jumping around and doing the most random ass shit xD

[@markbiermann]

The issue of how they enver down price their games is at least as gratring as the copy paste releases. I'd have a lot more KOEI games if they'd downpriced them. This video made me wanna try out the senada samurai warriors one....but it's full priced still. So browsing for another samurai title...all still full price. They would have gotten my 60 euros spread across 3 old games easily, now they have none of it. The whole compagny seems to be stuck in some corporate suit drinking party without a clue about the game community (yet it will never change untill they actually start gbleeding money, which is hard to imagine seeing most of their games do not look like they take a ton of money to make)

[@DarrenWatson64]

Not surprised at all that Destiny Young wouldn’t appear in the comments in these kinds of videos. XD

[@aryaadityapurbadi5527]

DarrenWatson64 Destiny Young, Kendall Fields, and Cao Ang, the unholy trio of Koei-Tecmo shills.

[@monaeblackeaglequeen8974]

Boy shutuppppppp!!! Wtf

[@mohammadalfattal2902]

I don't totally agree with the team ninja part If it was 2013 I would have agreed but team ninja has been pretty successful without a doubt Nioh, similar to dark souls, has been the pinnacle of ARBG and if you played it you would see for yourself how different to dark souls it's (although a lot of similarities is there) it's awesome, amazing with critical and commercial success to back it up Not only that, it sold 3 million copies making one of the best if not the best selling title KT produced, with awards and perfect scores to back it up, things dynasty warriors only dream of This success sparked 3 additional dlc and a new game that came out this month with the same critical success and even more commercial success till now, to toping Japan, USA and UK selling charts so clearly team ninja is doing absolutely great Even dead or alive 6 is a selling pretty good although it has it's issues of course

[@mariokarthero1997]

I like Tecmo and their games, but I won't lie their business practices are very anti-consumer. Especially with their DLC i.e. DOA5LR DLC

[@LordVerkins]

Koei Tecmo/Gust makes another good Atelier game called Atelier Ryza, and it’s filled with DLC.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Koei NEVER knew how to run their company. All they ever had was Ninja Gaiden and Dead Or Alive. Now all they have is Dead Or Alive. Pathetic.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

@Rayman Legends Dynasty Warriors is crap.

[@shinbakihanma2749]

@Rayman Legends fatal frame is not what it used to be

[@H250V]

Not gonna lie: do like the idea of open-world Dynasty Warriors, just probably not how it was executed. Like you could have it that multiple battles could be happening in the same area, but depending on if previous areas had been engaged and liberated/conquered before engaging another conflict near said previous encounters, you could be rewarded with extra reinforcements coming in at crucial moments like when the enemy summons reinforcements or new weapons to lower your troop morale or when you have to prevent them from escaping battle. I do see that TK kind of has been screwing up with some of it's entries, even though some of their spinoffs have been pretty fun at times. Heck, I bought Razor's Edge mostly based on the newer content, but I recall it not being that good at time, and for DoA...I kind of weep for DoA...I'm honestly hoping they get their house in order, because I really want to try all of the Warrior entries and even the other stuff they bring in, but not at the expense of losing out on content that was probably available/more efficient on previous entries. (Heck, not counting the Zelda and the Gundam spinoffs, Xtreme Legends 8 on Vita was my first DW experience, and that game was fun.)

[@juliusbossman7280]

I bought Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends and didn't realize you needed the base game so now I'm stuck with a game that has everything locked

[@hadoukenfighter]

i really wanna buy godseekers but i have no way of knowing if i'll like it and i really don't wanna pay 60 dollars without having a better idea.

[@chunkymonkeychunky]

No talk about Dissidia NT being a lackluster port where KT/Team Ninja solely focus on the arcade version in Japan while relying on crappy peer-to-peer connection and smaller and less-frequently-updated content in the console version and a lot of the movesets and information only recently having an English translation online while the F2P mobile game Dissidia Opera Omnia gets advertised more?

[@normallyimnuts767]

Nights of Azure was not digital only. Neither was the sequel.

[@ExtraordinaryJam]

I have a lot of love and hate relationship with koeitechmo

[@richardpankow4714]

My biggest issue with KT is that we need a current gen monster rancher. It was a great franchise but being on a home console before we could connect consoles to the internet held it back. I would pay full game price ($60) if they they remastered MR2 and gave it online vs.

[@Spacefrisian]

If only Capcom would keep consistent with there Basara release to make Koei think a bit about their games.

[@ronaldverdegaal9078]

DW9 had the potential to be a great game but it feels like they spent a lot of time on it for no reason.

[@SilentNinja2089.]

Still wondering why Samurai Warriors 2 is still the only game in the franchise that had the Xtreme Legends expansion as DLC

[@TheKsenpai]

Honestly, what does a man need to do to get Warriors Orochi: Empires?

[@harryborded5294]

Oh yeah imagine making your own character and interact with various of DW and SW character

[@doclouis4236]

Me: I just want Ninja Gaiden 4 and maybe a re-release of the 3D games on newer consoles. Tecmo: Sure thing, we-- [gets cut off by Omega Force] Omega Force: What's that? You want more Warriors games? Don't worry, bro. I got you covered. Me: That's not what I asked...

[@net_imp]

"The Xtreme Legends disc swapping" - that is not true. The expansion doesn't require you to swap disc to the base game because it needs to transfer data, it does that to make sure you've purchased both the base game and the expansion. DW7XL on PS3 allows you to skip the disc swapping for 2 days if you are logged into PSN, so it's definitely not for data transferring purposes. Also, DW8 still went for the base game - Xtreme Legends business model on PS3. The bundle which contains contents from both games is the Complete Edition that was later released on PS4 and Steam (a "Complete Edition" which still have $150+ worth of DLCs missing...but that's KOEI for you), this was partly done due to a copyright dispute with Capcom, but the initial release of the game was still split into two parts like all the other titles.

[@DynomitePunch]

oh no, their marketing strategy is absolutely horrendous to the point that it's almost criminal......i'd be sad, but, i just can't help but feel better when i put on my tricorn hat and go fishing *laughs in Hǎidào*

[@ASwagPecan]

age of calamity was arguably the most polished musou game and three hopes looks to have potential but the most recent samurai warriors was lacking.

[@burnersforhim]

nioh 1 and 2 is all they need. they are great and wo long + wild hearts will be amazing as well

[@obblivionkr]

It'd be great if they made more games like Spirit of Sanada, but give the 'protagonist' character much more moves/systems like they did there.

[@rathaven1709]

even now it seems like KT are trying to kill their own franchises

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

Just like their Big Daddy Konami

[@JdotSweapA]

Oh trust me, the digital prices in Europe are just as abhorrent.

[@kdashthedarkhero]

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[@BiohazardRay]

There a decent good company but they need to show more luv to the fatal frame series

[@unikatcodename4154]

I feel ya man

[@absolutelynot6086]

I love the warriors series for years I really like the orochi series too. I had normal sight when I was a young teenager but I have a progressive sight loss condition (severely sight impaired, have to sit right in front of screen if I have to read text, have to pause to see the map, but generally manage fine with gameplay) and I'm playing through wo4u and it's such a pain in the ass, I used to be able to play and read the te t but now I have to pause every few minutes to read the walls of dialogue in case I miss any important parts. Why is there endless talking?? If they're going to have so much text in a combat game at least dub!! It sucks so much of the fun out of the games.

[@NINJET]

Before the merge I remember Tecmo at least having discount sales but koei......forget about it, never ever has a sale. Old games at full prize ridiculous, and I almost waited for a discount on Warriors: Legends of Troy which was only digital on Xbox 360, and physical only PS3. I bought it before it disappear from the marketplace which lasted less than a year of availability.

[@asukaainun7473]

Just let you know that, SW 4-2 is not spelled as SW four-two but rather as SW 4-II as you know from the included new char Naomasa Ii Point being, I do agreed with your point about sickeningly varied version of SW 4 that wasn't available in all console as someone who jumps from ps3 into PC, its very frustrating I cannot get the maim version and the empires on PC. I hope they will release the complete edition of SW4 is objectively the best musou game ever

[@Sean.Turtles]

If Koei wanted to easily make tons of money, all they need to do is remaster DW3-5 for PC and console/handheld. I would pay a full $60 to play DW4 and Warriors Orochi 2 if it was on steam.

[@BubbleGum566]

Dynasty warriors: Battle Royale

[@rhanetreece2301]

To be fair on Toukidens part, for ps4 both games had demos (not that I don't agree with you though) KT is super lazy.Just give me my damn DW Empires dubs! And make it like 5, where the characters actually felt like they were doing something. Btw I think you're idea on DOA isn't too far off but I think the main reason they toned it down is for that E-sports money (it's gotten really popular) and as such they have to tone it down. Even SFV had do do this.

[@DrakeVagabond]

Yeah. And they would have done themselves a lot more justice if they said nothing on the topic.

[@derpedfox]

They're like the Japanese Ubisoft

[@tricksalot2]

I dont know what you mean by retooling or reused assets since these games gameplay are all pretty much the same except for the awesome empires series.

[@johnvonshepard9373]

14:13 that's the launch full price....

[@mitchellalexander9162]

As a Guy Before I watch this video I've always Suspected for some time that there was some kind of Warriors Burnout within KT or at the very least Stagnation. Though the Goddamn SECOND that I saw them Making the Ten Eunuch's Rebellion as DLC Locked into YUAN SHU's Story in DW9! I was SO MAD! At this point I've adopted a similar stance I'm taking with certain Legacy Franchises where it goes: "Okay I may not support you in everything but you do good enough work (Dynasty Warriors Classic System) however I will be among the First to support its competitors (be they Senran Kagura, Fate Extella, Sengoku Basara, or any other dynasty Warriors Challenger that comes forward)

[@B-C-D]

There's a lot I would like to say about KT... Honestly this youtube comment wouldnt even encapsulate my evergrowing irritation I have with KT right now. I'll cut down on what i've got to say otherwise it would go on. I agree with what you say in most of the video, *The laziness, the lack of dubs, cutting corners ect*. Nioh was decent enough that it could stand on its own unlike similar souls likes but thats about it. Then comes DOA, hmm... to be pefectly honest I dont care for the fanservice ...or just fanservice as a whole really but rather the greed ridden shithole the 5th game is known for, multiple re-releases and a boatload of dlc that could make EA giddy with glee as well as false interviews. Oh that xtreme game as well also ridden with microtranactions and dlc from what i hear... Anyways I'll end my rant here . On a more unrelated positive note*Sees Disgaea gives automatic thumbs up!

[@maximilianbima2265]

when koei becomes an EA wannabe

[@layzeegamerj4197]

KT is becoming the EA of Japanese companies. It's not only the lack of English dubs in their games, but KT America's translation are crap. Even NISA has less typos in their games then KT America! Also look at the Atelier Lydie season pass, 80 dollars! Their DLC practices are the worst of the worst. They ruined Gust with their laziness and greed. As for KT's main series. Look at the DLC for DOA5. Who's going to waste money on hundreds of overpriced costumes? Warriors games also have their share of overpriced DLC. Right now Namco, Square Enix, and Capcom are all putting effort into their future, but Koei Tecmo has been declining over the past few years. They need a long look at themselves.

[@angelyangel8398]

Well actually they're already worse if you look at those €80 season passes OP prices & bad management here...If only Gust could leave them. I feel like complety boycotting them now, since things got worser I don't feel like supporting such greedy & poisonous companies, because they don't seem to learn. I don't mind them going out of business at all. This behaviour shouldn't be rewarded.

[@mikeraizuly9682]

I swear one final day where Koei shall go bankrupt would be the day where they will be regret terribly for not listening to the other fans and not include dubs for WO3 and WO4. Same manners for not realeasing Multi Raid 2 in english for PSP which is pretty pathetic

[@HadouGun]

Meanwhile Capcom perfected the Warriors format with Sengoku Basara making the combat satisfying.

[@Usagizaka46]

I truly love the games that KT puts out, especially under Gust, but GEEZE. I literally found this video because I was annoyed at yet ANOTHER limited timed DLC for Atelier that I missed because I got Lulua 4 years after release. So STUPID. KT must think they're Nintendo with those prices, but I can't seem to compare the quality. I can't believe Nights of Azure is STILL full price lol. Blue Reflection is amazing but drop the friggin price so more people can join us as fans! And what is going on with Dynasty Warriors!? And now they're censoring games. DOA is already DOA so I'm not even bothered anymore. I tried jumping from Pokemon to Atelier and I find myself in the hands of... well, this.