The Korean War: The Proxy War That Nearly Sparked World War III

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Discover the gripping history of the Korean War's outbreak in 1950. Witness the strategic maneuvers, intervention, and near-nuclear escalation that defined this conflict. Uncover the untold story now!
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@jgreg3596
@jgreg3596 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the most significant wars that almost nobody talks about
@jessicalacasse6205
@jessicalacasse6205 Жыл бұрын
plus china vs usa is kinda in fashion right now , so i always taught it was weird no big movie was ever done on it ...
@seanosborn3272
@seanosborn3272 Жыл бұрын
@@jessicalacasse6205no way there would be a movie about Korea. Most big films either have some Chinese money behind it like midway, or they have to be screened to do welll in China since they’re the second biggest market.
@marktg98
@marktg98 Жыл бұрын
​@@seanosborn3272Second? They are THE biggest market by far. China has 5 times the population of the US, and the fastest growing middle class in the world. You'd have to cater to the entire Western world to match the number of potential customers/buyers you can get by simply catering to China.
@jessicalacasse6205
@jessicalacasse6205 Жыл бұрын
@@seanosborn3272 even before it was this conflict always was a bit taboo
@PerfectSense77
@PerfectSense77 Жыл бұрын
People definitely talk about it.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 Жыл бұрын
Having been to S. Korea many times the people there are very much eternally grateful to the UN coalition forces but even also the Americans especially who defended the nation in its hour of need There's both a very somber feeling combined with a sense of pride if you ever go to visit the Korean war museum in Seoul which I highly recommend that you do
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a combat medic during Korea. Stationed in Chorwon in the North. He was able to return to Seoul in 2003, during 50th Anniversary. I think it gave him closure. The last time he saw Seoul it was mud, blood, and fire. 50 years later, it's a mega city. I think he always felt it was worthless to have fought until he returned and saw the impact his service had on ROK. But the thing that really touched him was seeing school girls on their way to school, happy, pristine uniforms, well fed, content. That is what made him realize his service, the pain, the death, was worth it. It is funny how it impacts generations. His son became a military historian and his daughter ended up living in Seoul for several years. I myself taught ESL in Seoul while in college. I keep his uniform preserved and his cap on display, as well as his Anniversary hat. It has the American and ROK flag on it and reads: "50th Anniversary - We Remember". Haunting. Thank you for this video Simon...it means a lot. It means a lot to people like me. So thank you.
@hoetakeawalk
@hoetakeawalk Жыл бұрын
God bless America
@christophergallagher3845
@christophergallagher3845 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes wars need to be fought , this was one of them . All the modern wars are a scandal
@gorilladisco9108
@gorilladisco9108 Жыл бұрын
Why did DPRK let him go? A prisoner exchange?
@surfingbrrrd
@surfingbrrrd Жыл бұрын
@@gorilladisco9108he wasn't a prisoner, he was an American soldier stationed in an American base in what is now North Korea. I was confused at first too cause the comment at first makes it seem like he was a Korean soldier, but reread it and it makes more sense. Especially the ESL teaching and all that. He probably only returned to Seoul after 50 years because of personal reasons, not like he was restricted (which if he was a NK prisoner he'd obviously be)
@gorilladisco9108
@gorilladisco9108 Жыл бұрын
@@surfingbrrrd Aha. You are right. 😯Thank you. 🤓
@seanbinkley7363
@seanbinkley7363 Жыл бұрын
In the Korean War Museum in Seoul there is a message on the wall that marks the entrance to the UN intervention force section of the facility. It reads "Our nation honors her sons and daughters who answered the call to defend a country they never knew and a people they never met." That message was incredibly moving to me the first time I saw it and it's still one the most impactful messages I think I've ever seen in a museum like that. What makes it stand out for me is that they used the term "her sons and daughters" as opposed to "the sons and daughters of other nations" or something similar. It shows that any non-Korean that came to defend South Korea from the DPRK is regarded as a son or daughter of that nation.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather, an American, traded letters with a Korean comrade he fought with in the war for about 20 years.
@RAS_Squints
@RAS_Squints Жыл бұрын
Same message is at the Korean War Memorial in DC with a second message ways, "Freedom is Not Free". I know that is true because if the US didn't go into Korea in the 50s, I would not be here typing this right now.
@baahcusegamer4530
@baahcusegamer4530 Жыл бұрын
I have been to that museum. It is a beautiful, solemn memorial to “The Forgotten War”. The heights to which the RoK has climbed makes the painful war one of the most worthwhile conflicts the US and so many other nations engaged in. The freedom of millions was bought by the mingled, shed blood of many many thousands. May South Korea remain forever free.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
My family is Korean on both sides and lived through the war. They are certainly grateful to those foreign soldiers who aided the country in its time of need.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
​@@RAS_Squintssame. Son of two Korean immigrants who both came to America in the 1970s.
@liamreich8486
@liamreich8486 Жыл бұрын
My Grandfather went to Korea as a Major in the New Zealand army. He raised me and never talked about it. Not until his deathbed and his mind started to fail that is... I do remember asking him as a silly kid why he went to war? He said 'Because it was the right thing to do'
@raptor1672
@raptor1672 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx Wait you idolise a child fucker? That's weird.......
@hoetakeawalk
@hoetakeawalk Жыл бұрын
God bless freedom
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
When the Korean war broke out. My patriotic grandfather who was a liutenant, was estatic. He originally expected to be leading troops in Korea. However, the military decided to station him to Okinawa instead letting him lead troops in Korea for the whole duration of the war. My grandpa was naturally disappointed until sometime after the war he met veterans who were scarred from the war. He came to the realization that he was lucky from being sparred combat experience but he was always appreciative for his fellow soldiers who fought in his place. He always credited them for saving his life from either possible death or PTSD.
@gp-1542
@gp-1542 Жыл бұрын
It’s wild how despite the two side went back and forth, capturing both capitals and nearly destroyed each other Only to be back to square one
@stc3145
@stc3145 Жыл бұрын
They didnt come back to square one. The South Koreans succesfully held of their commie invaders.
@sockpuddles
@sockpuddles Жыл бұрын
My Grandfather fought in this "conflict". Heard many stories about how the Chinese had more people than guns.😮
@IamKingSleezy
@IamKingSleezy Жыл бұрын
My Grandpa was a Naval AA Gunner on the USS Wisconsin when he got word of the war and he immediately sacrificed rank and joined the Marines to go fight in it, a poor boy from West Virginia, he was just looking for money to send home and the Marines got paid more than AA Gunners on a ship. Was there most of the war, stood on the Yalu River, and somehow came out alive. He never talked about it much, though I understand why. I miss that man very much.
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 8 ай бұрын
Bless your grandfather. Imagine - one of the few people ever to stand on the banks of the Yalu in wartime
@KariHaruka
@KariHaruka Жыл бұрын
The Korean War is a war that I've always been fascinated by. My Grandfather was a part of the British Royal Marines 41 (Independent) Commando unit that participated in amphibious raids across the North Korean coastline, taking out railroad tracks, damaging vital North Korean supply lines. His unit then participated in the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. For which, we have his US Presidential Citation proudly on display in my Grandmother's home. My Grandfather sadly passed away when I was 6 years old. And the memories of the Korean War, he took to his grave. He never once spoke of the war to anyone, not even to my Grandmother. But I have done my research on the war and I've read a book that was written by a fellow Royal Marine who served alongside him, and I am immensely proud of him. I have also been to Korea, and I've visited the DMZ, the War Memorial Museum in Seoul and also the UN Memorial Cemetery in Busan, and those visits have always made me think of my Grandfather and those who fought alongside him, but weren't able to return home.
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
@dtaylor10chuckufarle Жыл бұрын
Your Grandfather was a badass, no doubt about it. And the battle of the Chosin Reservoir... well, it's no wonder he never spoke of it.
@harambesrevenge3743
@harambesrevenge3743 8 ай бұрын
I bet your grandfather would cry if he saw what happen to your “country”
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 8 ай бұрын
A colleague of mine, his grandfather was also at Chosin Reservoir - USMC. Apparently he never spoke of it much either, but was awarded the Navy Cross.
@robeylemere
@robeylemere Жыл бұрын
My grandpa and great uncle fought in Korea and the photographs my grandpa took (army engineer) were beautiful and haunting. Korea is a truely beautiful country and it would have been a shame to be irradiated. Americans need to do better about remembering our history and the sacrifices it’s brave sons and daughters made and continue to make.
@bmyers7078
@bmyers7078 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx: Have you thought about reading “The Book of Mormon” by Joseph Smith (1830). You might like it.
@mvpdjg4965
@mvpdjg4965 Жыл бұрын
I think you are confusing Japan with korea
@bman6065
@bman6065 Жыл бұрын
​@lik-zf5xxwrong page buddy
@bman6065
@bman6065 Жыл бұрын
The reason Korea isn't well known was because it was fighting for future freedom. If you dig into it it's not a feel good story. We bombed a lot of civilians for a state that was pretty much autocratic at the time. But it is an incredible story. We haven't had a war quite like that since. At least not America.
@robeylemere
@robeylemere Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx Jesus is the the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him. John 14:6
@goncalolima2923
@goncalolima2923 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that the Korean War doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves, just getting overshadowed by Vietnam
@Theshropshireratter
@Theshropshireratter Жыл бұрын
Agreed also the north Korean army doesn't get as much credit as they deserve as the early offensive nearly won the war
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Жыл бұрын
The whole point of the first Rambo novel (First Blood) was that the sheriff and patrol goons that mock Rambo and make him go into guerrilla mode (like the infamous shower scene) were Korean War veterans whom were pissed Nam soilders eclipsed them in relevancy and public memory. To this day the Korean War is practically forgotten.
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly the S. Koreans were eager to join the Americans for their service in defending their nation in the Vietnam campaign and they were some of the fiercest units the Viet Cong and NVA encountered earning them quite the battle hardened reputation
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 Жыл бұрын
Because Vietnam was the first tv war and young people were starting to say no to being sent by old men to fight wars, especially wars to defend governments that were corrupt and unpopular in their own countries as in South Vietnam.
@DauthEldrvaria
@DauthEldrvaria Жыл бұрын
@@TheshropshireratterNo it’s because they are the bad guys so no one cares.
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 Жыл бұрын
2:20 - Chapter 1 - Forging a new korea 6:25 - Chapter 2 - Heavy losses 11:30 - Chapter 3 - China enters the war 16:10 - Chapter 4 - Negotations & the ongoing conflict 18:15 - Chapter 5 - What could have been
@lutonnationalist
@lutonnationalist Жыл бұрын
Didnt a 51 year old muhammed have sex with a 9year old girl call ayesha. Prophet my ass.
@DENVEROUTDOORMAN
@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Жыл бұрын
We don't need STUPID TIMESTAMPS
@sirhenrymorgan1187
@sirhenrymorgan1187 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother was born March 19, 1945; a few months before Korean independence from Japan. Her family was living in North Korea when the KPA invaded the South on June 25, 1950. They fled during the war and eventually wound up in Seoul. My grandmother has many stories about growing up there and the fear that the war could restart at any time.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
My dad was born December 19, 1947. He has never talked about what he experienced.
@leanhoven
@leanhoven Жыл бұрын
​@@vic5015he was too young
@grapeshot
@grapeshot Жыл бұрын
I had three great-uncles that fought in the Korean War.Two in the Army and one in the Marine Corps.
@heliosophist334
@heliosophist334 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx 🤣🤣 Bruh...what are you smoking?
@Tirani2
@Tirani2 Жыл бұрын
One of my grandfathers fought in Korea. After the war, he worked at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, perfecting non nuclear weapons. He hoped that by making those weapons, nuclear ones would never be used. My other grandfather was in the Navy during the end of World War II. He was also at Bikini Atol during nuclear testing there. After he left the Navy, he was a staunch proponent against nuclear war.
@MrClyff_
@MrClyff_ Жыл бұрын
I'd love a video breaking down Chinese involvement in the war, Specifically the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir
@buckn5
@buckn5 Жыл бұрын
There is a book series where the korean war lead to not only a nuclear exchange between the us and soviets, but a full world war 3. It is called the hot war by harry turttledove.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather isn't from the US but he did serve in the Korean War as an artillery mechanic. Grandma even has pics and documents. He passed away some time ago so sadly I can't get many personal stories of his. The two met shortly after the war
@Isometrix116
@Isometrix116 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that a nuclear war in the 50s wouldn't have been the global catastrophe we imagine with nuclear war. Push into the 70s and beyond and you have that. The 50s mostly saw relatively low yield, aircraft-borne bombs Now, very notably, it would have been incredibly destructive, many times more destructive than ww2, but nowhere near the apocalyptic levels of modern nuclear war. It would be like the difference in destruction of ww1 vs ww2.
@F1pidis
@F1pidis Жыл бұрын
Exactly, excluding the somewhat high levels of radiation, the destruction wouldn't have been that different in scale. North Korea was carpet bombed back to the middle ages and never recovered from that....
@TimSedai
@TimSedai Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in Korea. Did NOT like talking about it. He died in 2000
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 Жыл бұрын
I feel that this needs to be shared simply because it was a forgotten conflict in the West. By sharing this it makes it immortal as it is forever somewhere online. My grandfather was in Korea and one day driving a Jeep to a field hospital. Doing his rounds. DPRK soldiers were on a mountain nearby where UN forces had simply blocked paths off the mountain, as fighting an uphill battle is bad. The DPRK soldiers fired on him with a mortar but missed, and he swerved left. They fired again and he swerved right, almost got him. He realized they were sighting him in, so he floored it, and the last mortar hit a bit behind the Jeep. Thankfully he was OK. Must have gotten the adrenaline pumping.
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk Жыл бұрын
One of my grandfathers fought in Korea...he refused to talk about it. From what little I could gather, he became furious with conditions there (for the US side, for the Koreans, I'm not sure which) and even in the 1980s was still extremely angry about the entire war and anything to do with it.
@andrewpeterson549
@andrewpeterson549 Жыл бұрын
The firebombing of Tokyo resulted in far more casualties then either one of the atomic bombings
@brettolson2727
@brettolson2727 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa was with the 1st Marine Division in Korea. Was a mortar team leader there from 52-53.
@jeremymcfarlin1945
@jeremymcfarlin1945 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in this conflict. He never talked about it
@gugman9684
@gugman9684 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx What a load of bullshit.
@deanbibb3680
@deanbibb3680 Жыл бұрын
This was the war my father and uncles served in. It needs more light shine upon it.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather's unit in the war adopted a dog named "Spare parts." They had to make sure the poor farmers weren't going to eat him.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын
​@lik-zf5xxNo.
@koenbax3221
@koenbax3221 Жыл бұрын
I LOVED the part about the development of nuclear ideology in the aftermath of ww2 during this conflict. Absolutely amazing and eye opening content.
@MMOchAForPrez
@MMOchAForPrez Жыл бұрын
I just rewatched your Biographics video on Truman, now you guys release this!!? Awesome timing
@KW-qd1bi
@KW-qd1bi Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this channel to cover this topic
@terryenby2304
@terryenby2304 Жыл бұрын
I requested this conflict ages ago, thank you so much for covering it! It was way more complex than I had realised!
@mattywanders
@mattywanders Жыл бұрын
I like puppies and Warographics!
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather's unit in the war adopted a dog named "Spare parts." They had to make sure the poor farmers weren't going to eat him.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, ok. I can get behind this.
@ShortWarehouse
@ShortWarehouse 5 ай бұрын
@@badluck5647yt comment section always delivers lol
@ryanduffy5301
@ryanduffy5301 Жыл бұрын
Imagine in an alternate timeline, 5 years after the end of world War 2, world War 3 begins..
@TheMilpitasguy
@TheMilpitasguy Жыл бұрын
It was a war that Russia would have lost. They had at most 2-3 warheads and no missile delivery systems for them. The US had far more nukes and could have leveled Russia and China with ease, in spite of the communist edge in army manpower. Had the US done so, it would be a different world today, that's for sure. No Cold War, no Vietnam War, with the US solidly under control.
@TheMilpitasguy
@TheMilpitasguy Жыл бұрын
At the time of the 1956 Suez crisis, Russia's nuclear arsenal was still pretty pathetic.
@dcjway
@dcjway Жыл бұрын
My father was a Marine with the 3/11 mobile artillery all during 1951. Semper Fi.
@Astral_Wave
@Astral_Wave Жыл бұрын
I was looking for an episode on this the other day from this channel and couldn't find one and then this popped up! Thanks!
@ScentlessSun
@ScentlessSun Жыл бұрын
Although morally dubious, I believe General Douglas MacArthur’s logic was correct. The USSR would not have wanted to go to direct war with United States even if nuclear weapons were used a second time. The Soviets were not suicidal. Stalin knew that both the United States and the USSR would destroy themselves if they fought each other. One massive variable remains, what would China have done? The prospect of nuclear weapons wiping out his military is not something Mao would have wanted. Russia seized upper Manchuria from China in 1900. If Mao’s military were crippled he would not be able adequately maintain territorial sovereignty if Russia were to pursue taking more territory at an opportune time. I’m not saying I want or wish history went this way, but this is my opinion on what MacArthur wanted to do.
@nolongerblocked6210
@nolongerblocked6210 Жыл бұрын
Another factor is Russia only had 3-4 nukes total until '52-53. So they couldn't have really fought much of a nuclear war
@advance512
@advance512 Ай бұрын
In the UN Peace Memorial Hall in Busan, following a gorgeous museum presentation about the war and examples of the uniforms and medals of each of the 22 nations that fought in the Korean war, the only black text in a beautiful, big and empty white room reads: "We have never forgotten about you, just as you did not forget about us". The UN Memorial Cemetery nearby is beyond beautiful and houses many thousands of those who served in the Korean war as part of the UN forces. So much respect.
@jasonleman1396
@jasonleman1396 Жыл бұрын
My great Uncle fought in WW@2 and the Korean war (I had no idea until I saw his grave marker that had it on it).
@RobertBrown-wm9ob
@RobertBrown-wm9ob 4 ай бұрын
That's very typical of that generation my father was in World War II and Korea Frontline Soldier. Several times in my life I heard Vietnam veterans bragging to him about what they did in Vietnam he sat there and never said a word about his experiences. Afterwards he told me when you hear someone bragging about what they've done in a war they were not really there a bunch of wannabes. Most people never even knew he was in the Army until he died
@kbonh22
@kbonh22 Жыл бұрын
Overshadowed by WW2 and then Vietnam. This was the most dangerous conflict in history.
@acerock013
@acerock013 Жыл бұрын
This video is rife with all the well trodden tropes of American and Western misunderstanding of the conflict within Korea. The Korean War was less a war of communist aggression and more a civil war between two nationalist factions seeking to rule Korea under their own auspices. 1. When Korea was liberated, it was then occupied. The American Military Government oversaw Korean affairs after Dean Acheson arbitrarily chose the 38th parallel and not a single Korean was even consulted about this act. When establishing a governing authority over southern Korea, the AMG employed Japanese collaborators and the ROk Army leaderships was full of former Japanese Imperial Army veterans and former members of the Kwantung Army who fought the Chinese and even Kim Il-Sung in Manchukwo. This decision to reinstate Korean collaborators to run ROK led to a tyrannical and authoritarian governing body that was fervently anti-communist and would label anyone or anything as not wholly loyal to ROK as communist. 2. ROK Army forces had skirmished with DPRK long before 1950 and in 1948 to 49 ROK Army forces had attacked north of the 38th parallel particularly around the city of Kaesong. 3. General John Hodge oversaw the occupation of Korea from 1945-1948 and during that time he oversaw the reformation of the ROK Army and something that was a distinct and clear choice by Hodge and AMG was the NOT provide Syngman Rhee with weapons like tanks and artillery because they were pretty certain that if Rhee had an army equipped with American tanks and artillery that he would would have invaded north. 4. ROK was a military junta and put down multiple popular uprisings in Cholla and Che-ju Island. The KNP response to Che-ju in 1949 led to the deaths of 20,000 Korean civilians officially, but the unofficial count was 60,000 dead and nearly 50,000 fled to Japan. 5. Nuclear weapons were not only discussed but components of nuclear weapons were shipped to Guam where Air Force B-29s were prepared to employ them if called for. The break between MAcArthur and Truman broke down around the notion that MacArthur believed he had the authority to decide whether or not to use nuclear weapons where Truman did not want this final decision left up to him hence the decision to fire America's Caesar and replace him with MAtt Ridgeway who was in line with Truman's nuclear weapon policy. 6. The Inchon Landings were not a surprise to DPRK. the In-man-gun, People's Army, was aware that Inchon was going to be invaded and withdrew the majority of their forces from Inchon because they knew they couldn't hold it and left a token force of about 2000 soldiers. 7. We need to acknowledge that Syngman Rhee was every bit the villain that Kim Il-Sung was. He was not just a fervent anti-communist, he was also fascist in how he ran Korea and leading up to the war most of his government was flagging and he was overthrown by a coup led by General Park Jung-hi who was later assasanated himself in another coup. Rhee was living and lobbying in America long before 1945 but was popular with DC because he was openly anti-communist and seemingly devoted the American interests in the Pacific. The Korean War didn't start in 1950 and it can be best viewed as a war of different phases. Prior to 1950 the conflict was between the wealthy landowning aristocracy who aligned with Japanese colonial authorities and the peasant and working class. When the war kicks off in earnest, it can be ebst described as America defeating the DPRK in battle. Then during 1950-1951 the war can be best described as a failed invasion of the DPRK while the war in 1952-53 the war is largely a struggle to restore the 38th parallel as the demarcation between DPRK and ROK. We want to view it as a simple battel of good vs evil and in many ways it was, but who we viewed as good and who we viewed as evil are designed to fit within the Red Scare narrative that was dominating the 50s and 60s. In that sense the Korean War is much more akin to the Vietnam War than it was WW2.
@kimandre336
@kimandre336 Жыл бұрын
Westerns always forget that South Korea suffered from "communist style" civilian massacres before the Korean War.
@UbermanNullist
@UbermanNullist Жыл бұрын
this is a typical CCP narrative.
@stevenbaksh5545
@stevenbaksh5545 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@broccanmacronain457
@broccanmacronain457 Жыл бұрын
My sub visited South Korea in the 80's. I was by the venom the South Koreans have for the North. We also got to scramble the sub, (we left several people on shore when they did not get back in time) when the North Koreans had several missile boats across the 38th. We came back the next day and picked up our crewmembers and cut our shore stay short as then we headed north. We all had a lovely time in Korea and believed we made some friends there. The South Koreans are a wonderful people.
@TedinLasVegas
@TedinLasVegas Жыл бұрын
Russia had, we now know, a total of 3, THREE, atomic bombs in 1952. Any atomic war would have been incredibly one-sided and still needlessly horrific.
@b1646717
@b1646717 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather always hated being a veteran of a war that nobody remembers.
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure many older Koreans would've been happy to buy him a drink.
@nolongerblocked6210
@nolongerblocked6210 Жыл бұрын
The people of South Korea remember to this day & happily thank anyone who fought for their country
@vic5015
@vic5015 Жыл бұрын
My family is Korean. I look at Vietnamese-American refugees and see what could've been.
@buffgarfield3231
@buffgarfield3231 Жыл бұрын
Unless Germany is the antagonist I am not calling any war ww3
@Schneids1216
@Schneids1216 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for defending my favorite general with the explanation to his strategy
@Rorgash
@Rorgash Жыл бұрын
I have to say, Factboi´s watch collection is crazy :P must be doing amazing with all his channels
@wedtrttyt
@wedtrttyt Жыл бұрын
Settings -> playback speed -> 0.75X.
@thomasdelancey5105
@thomasdelancey5105 Жыл бұрын
The bit about Truman’s courage to back McArthur - a bonafide war hero - off nuclear war, to the degree of firing him, is often overlooked. Perhaps the most important moment in the second half of the century.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 11 ай бұрын
When the British prime minister Clement Attlee got wind of MacArthur pushing to gain the power to launch nuclear strikes against China, Attlee flew to Washington with his generals to dissuade Truman of the danger of such an act. Attlee believed the Soviets would use nuclear strikes against China as the excuse to launch attacks in Europe. That might include nuclear strikes too as the Soviets were known to have atomic bombs before the Korean War started. Attlee's secretary recalled that Truman promised Attlee the power to launch nuclear strikes remained with Truman alone. Truman would take it as a matter of honor to consult with his ally first.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Love this channel Simon! Thanks For all your hard work🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith
@Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith Жыл бұрын
I had an Uncle who was a Sergeant in the 1st Marines who fought in that War from the day we landed. He told me that it was Hell.
@moose9680
@moose9680 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always.
@vinny7114
@vinny7114 Ай бұрын
It's like they love fighting each other but just enough
@stevenbaksh5545
@stevenbaksh5545 Жыл бұрын
I think its important to mention that they were border skirmishes between North Korea and South Korea before the war
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 Жыл бұрын
There is evidence that the South actually started the conflict and the North was reacting to that. This is, however, never mentioned by Western commentators, always painting the North as the aggressors
@AKS-74U
@AKS-74U Жыл бұрын
We need a Korean War video game that's along the lines of Battlefield 1 with WW1. That game, even with creative liberties, educated a lot of people about that war. Too many people have a weird obsession with Vietnam and the KW is always forgotten.
@claywest9528
@claywest9528 Жыл бұрын
Truman remains the only US president, and only National executive, to order the use of nuclear weapons in combat. (So far). Glad he didn't make a habit of it.
@alex4863
@alex4863 Жыл бұрын
The Forgotten War is no longer forgotten.
@WaywardVet
@WaywardVet Жыл бұрын
I probably would had agreed with McArthur at the time. So I'm glad your writer pointed out we have the gift of hindsight.
@wolfsmoke6053
@wolfsmoke6053 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because things have turned out so well without using them...
@WaywardVet
@WaywardVet Жыл бұрын
@wolfsmoke6053 Pretty sure we came out OK in the 1776 dispute.
@giovanniderop5309
@giovanniderop5309 9 ай бұрын
Epic ending of this series!! Can’t wait for more…!
@ianblake815
@ianblake815 Жыл бұрын
I love learning about this!
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 Жыл бұрын
MacArthur operated from an old school 'weapons are meant to be used' mindset, but was unable to see the world had changed. Truman got it right even though it meant lives lost in battle in the short term.
@trli7117
@trli7117 Жыл бұрын
Really, /really/ glossed over chinese loses during that first push Simon's writer.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Жыл бұрын
They suffered heavy casualties but they still pushed the UN forces all the way back to South Korea and recaptured Seoul.
@trli7117
@trli7117 Жыл бұрын
@huntersmith761 Right, after the order was given not to escalate the war and they fell back. That's kinda the whole point of the video isn't it? But the losses on both sides should have numbers put to them of you want to convey the full story.
@Jigsawn2
@Jigsawn2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this concise summary of a conflict us Brits aren't really taught about much
@markygee194
@markygee194 8 ай бұрын
My great uncle was in the British Army, fought in WW2 but was killed fighting in the Korean War, he is buried there.
@jacobreed3684
@jacobreed3684 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact. This was before icbms you still had to use bomber also the us and the upper hand as they had in 1950 450 nukes where the Soviets only had 20.
@dartdude4084
@dartdude4084 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in Korea with the 1-87IN Rakasan
@dartdude4084
@dartdude4084 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx thanks but no thanks
@VVitya
@VVitya Жыл бұрын
He guys..what about a vid about Monte Casino? Thanks for your amazing content! Take care
@hanglee5586
@hanglee5586 Жыл бұрын
The Inchon landing deserves a separate video.
@nolongerblocked6210
@nolongerblocked6210 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how MacArthur walked around with balls that big 😅😅
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting food for thought is that Taiwan exists today seperate from mainland Chinese influence because the military resources that were being massed to begin a campaign against the taiwanese were relocated by Mao to the Korean peninsula to assist the N. Koreans
@agpc0529
@agpc0529 Жыл бұрын
Truman is an underrated President
@johnjeong828
@johnjeong828 8 ай бұрын
Interesting fact about the 3 Gorges Dam: this structure slowed down the rotation of Earth by itself
@TerenceClark
@TerenceClark Жыл бұрын
It would have been difficult, though not impossible, for there to have been billions of casualties in that era. It seems inconceivable to us in the modern-day, but at the time there were only 2.5 billion people on the planet. To lose 2/5 or more of the world population to a single conflict would certainly be stark and unprecedented.
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 Жыл бұрын
Also, nuclear bombs in that era were delivered by aircraft And thus, were limited in yield and could potentially be countered with interceptors. Whereas in the 60s and 70s, there was no defending against icbms or sub launched icbm's.
@EAcapuccino
@EAcapuccino Жыл бұрын
Bruce Willis would love playing as Douglas MCcarthur, they are Doppelgangers after all!
@bowenc24
@bowenc24 Жыл бұрын
That’s actually a great casting choice for MacArthur! It’s a shame with Willis’s medical problems we won’t get to see it.
@EAcapuccino
@EAcapuccino Жыл бұрын
​​​@@bowenc24 A nuke explodes in the distance ... Douglas Macarthur : Yippe Kay-eh motherfucker! 😂😂 (Die Hard 2) I think
@loganburntitus6948
@loganburntitus6948 Жыл бұрын
MacArthur wasnt necessarily wrong. He had a military mans thinking. He had a means to an end. And men on his side lives to consider.
@michaelmaccini
@michaelmaccini Жыл бұрын
Truly excellent!
@ValhallaIAmComing
@ValhallaIAmComing Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in the Korean War and I still have his dog tag, it's his name inscribed metal wristband, U.S. Calvary, that he wore.
@bluegold1026
@bluegold1026 Жыл бұрын
Now we must ask ourselves what will it take to officially end the Korean War once and for all.
@marktg98
@marktg98 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hate to say it: unless someone manages to find a way to eliminate the Kims and all of their goons, probably another war. They'll never voluntarily give up control.
@indygeo4267
@indygeo4267 7 ай бұрын
The topic of the Korean war actually fascinates me more than the conflict that proceeded it. That conflict being the Vietnam war of course.
@mar25947
@mar25947 21 күн бұрын
Vietnam should never be forgotten…
@indygeo4267
@indygeo4267 21 күн бұрын
@@mar25947 I agree that it shouldn't. I'm not at all saying it should, I'm just more fascinated with the Korean war than I am the Vietnam war.
@NotSure2020
@NotSure2020 Жыл бұрын
19:26 what is the context of this photo?
@borisattva
@borisattva Жыл бұрын
Google Reverse Image Search indicates this is "U.S. Marines escorting Yugoslav POWs in Kosovo over to Yugoslav authorities"
@Yubbyubb1
@Yubbyubb1 Жыл бұрын
Simon has said a number of times on his various channels about the possibility of the first nuclear war happening, yet mentions that Japan was already bombed by nuclear devices. World War 2 WAS a nuclear war. Atomic weapons were used to defeat an enemy in wartime, therefore the first nuclear war has already happened.
@pakde8002
@pakde8002 Жыл бұрын
Technically that's true but I think it's understood that when we talk about a nuclear war it involves two nuclear powers who each use nuclear weapons against each other. Using nuclear weapons against an enemy that doesn't have such weapons isn't a war, it's a massacre.
@MrZooop
@MrZooop Жыл бұрын
@@pakde8002 it's the end of a war.
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Ayla
@Catman2123
@Catman2123 Жыл бұрын
Nothing could have prepared me for seeing a picture of Douglas MacArthur without sunglasses.
@carlschildtknecht762
@carlschildtknecht762 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting rid of that obnoxious pink light.
@gorilladisco9108
@gorilladisco9108 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Korean War was not the first time USA considered the use of nuclear bomb after World War 2. A few years before, during Chiang Kai Sek evacuation from mainland China to Taiwan, USA also prepared nuclear bomb just in case the communist army managed to pursue Chiang into the Taiwan. Turned out, China lacked landing boats to invade Taiwan and all they did was to fire cannon shots to Kinmen island (an island that is still under Chiang control, just a few miles from mainland China).
@drew2276
@drew2276 Жыл бұрын
With a name like Simon Whistler you were born to make these videos
@multiyapples
@multiyapples Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace to those that passed away.
@ClericOfPholtus
@ClericOfPholtus Жыл бұрын
So basically Fallout is the timeline where McArthur got his way
@jankusthegreat9233
@jankusthegreat9233 Жыл бұрын
My grandpa fought in Korea
@calebbearup4282
@calebbearup4282 Жыл бұрын
Ending China and Russia then would have likely made the following several decades much better overall even if it had resulted in nuclear exchange
@Cremenium
@Cremenium Жыл бұрын
😅😅God what’s in your mind
@hattorihanzo562
@hattorihanzo562 Жыл бұрын
Youre nuts
@kevinrich5222
@kevinrich5222 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the earth would be a better place without humans
@paulweeldreyer7457
@paulweeldreyer7457 10 ай бұрын
Using an atomic bomb or two wouldn't have been that crazy, they were much, much less powerful than today. Atomic bombs back then were like firecrackers compared to today's. I'm not saying they should have done it, just that it wasn't crazy.
@alfrancisbuada2591
@alfrancisbuada2591 Жыл бұрын
Macarthur's finger was dangerously close to the nuke button
@fritzguldenpfennig2486
@fritzguldenpfennig2486 9 ай бұрын
Crazy to think how many times the world could've ended in the 20th century.
@orbtastic
@orbtastic Жыл бұрын
MacArthur wanted to drop 20 atom bombs and then sow a "sea of cobalt"
@manliovidoni7712
@manliovidoni7712 11 ай бұрын
We have an ally who is so militarily weak that we have to protect them and lose 38000 men. With allies like that who needs enemies.
@Snagprophet
@Snagprophet Жыл бұрын
When people think of the Vietnam war now, when it started they had imagined it to be like the Korean war.
@Zenith118
@Zenith118 Жыл бұрын
"Nuke em" "No" "Aw cmoooooon" "You're FIRED"
@soldierbreed
@soldierbreed 11 ай бұрын
Wait like that MacArthur? I never knew that.
@diverd8347
@diverd8347 Жыл бұрын
Question: At least in terms of Immediate Casualties vs. Future Casualties, say use of nuclear weapons has brought a swift end to the war and secured the peninsula for the south. How many lives on both sides would have been saved in the war AND how many lives would have been saved from 73 years of north korean dictatorship. Also imagine a world where the Korean war set a president where by the Vietnam war never happened.
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 Жыл бұрын
Your balance sheet assumes a lot. Factor in a fully involved Chinese and Russian armies, and a war that they have no incentive to stop at any point before they can safely prevent America from using more weapons or they're wiped out. Once nukes are on the table, each escalation requires a response and there were no clear off-ramps. As horrible as the North Korea dictatorship has been, an existing nation is still better than a depopulated wasteland. A world where Vietnam was never a thing would be great, if the trade-off wasn't a war where the US ended up razing China and Russia to protect itself from counter-invasion. Long story short, an America that lets the nukes fly isn't the good guys when you play out your scenario realistically.
@Cremenium
@Cremenium Жыл бұрын
Or 50 years of south Korean dictatorship😂😂
@necromora666
@necromora666 Жыл бұрын
A few days ago I was going through your channels using the channel tab. I noticed Warographics wasn't listed as part of it on your other channels but the rest appear under the channel tab on here. Thought you may wanna know if you hadn't noticed
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