The Krays Inside the Firm.

[@silver152]

All the very best gangsters don't go to prison

[@standenberg]

The Krays will always be enduring and interesting characters. Great insight in the documentary from those who knew them.

[@i.marr.6688]

Ronnie was a known nonce, he was knowing for sleeping with young teens, and provided Lord Boothby with boys, I'll never understand why people idolise him, If a major London gangster was arrested for having sex with a 14 year old ,we all know what he'd be called. And the guy Ronnie burned with a hot poker said he was at a party and was looking for his mate he went into a room and saw Reg given a young boy one. And Ronnie wasn't the most feared gangster In London, there was much more feared men like Alf Gerrard, Jimmy Moody, Ted Dennis, and Freddie and his own firm were going to iron both of them out ,by 1967 Ron wanted to kill a pal of Fred's and Fred refused ,he also knew if he kept disposing bodies he'd eventually be caught he regretted ever working with them.

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

When Ronnie Kray shot George in the Blind Beggar pub a bullet hit the music player machine which was playing the Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore by the Walker Brothers a big hit in UK at the time.. And Ronnie smirked, well it definitely ain't gonna shine for Cornell now! I read that in a book I think it was written Ron or Reg who wrote autobiographies or a journalist, I'm not sure which, and may not be true, but I distinctly remember reading that. When Ronnie pulled the WWII German Luger pistol and pointed it right at George Cornell's head George acted fearlessly and continued drinking his pint of beer and dared Ronnie to shoot him and saying Well well look who we have here!...You haven't got the bottle!" Then two seconds later, bang! And George went down with a hole in his forehead. Remarkably he didn't die straightaway and lasted a few hours in iCU at hospital and in a coma.

[@Made1984.]

I went to the Blind Beggar when I visited London last year and there are still bullet holes in the ceiling and the piece of wallpaper through which Ronnie Krays bullet passed through hangs in a frame.

[@PaulMaloney-uj7or]

There is biography called 'the profession of violence ' that says about that

[@Tattedup85]

Two of the hardest fruits at one time

[@Made1984.]

Fascinating documentary about the Krays, I watched this when it first aired in 2000 along with the other episode before it which focused on the business with Frank Mitchell which was really interesting but I don't why they came back to the Mitchell business here when they had already covered it. Really well made documentary with interesting archive footage and interviews from guys who were part of London's 60s underworld.

[@andrewarthurmatthews6685]

Absolutely no remorse or regret shown by the low life criminal at battering the PC and his dog . Makes me wonder why people celebrate the lives of these people when they were prepared to do anything to steal. Being from the East End is such a lame tired and redundant excuse for getting involved with crime . It’s more to do with being lazy , rather dim and having no regard for others .

[@SirRandyofcxcheshire]

the British working and lower working classes have either been hard workers and honest, or total scum and criminal...!

[@billycasper289]

Police care more about locking people up what rob a few quid than protecting you or you're kids

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

There's kind of a cult surrounding the Krays and the media present them as something more than they were really. One thing you have to remember, although Ronnie Kray could be extremely violent due to his mental illness, when the Krays ruled the East End, there was hardly any problems with street muggings or house break-ins like we see today. Nobody dared do stuff like on the Krays manor else the response would be swift, they acted like local police and dished out punishment. So a lot of Eastenders still to this day hold them in high reward. They also did a lot for charity and local communities but often most of the money ended up in their pockets.

[@CraigHalliday-h2g]

A film about Charlie Kray would be good

[@markfleming.4334]

Yeah, that would be superb. Providing it's nothing like Legend which is dreadful & full of deliberate lies.

[@lifewithevie9931]

@@markfleming.4334yes I agree with you about legend it’s not completely true most of it is not true like Reggie and Frances where Reggie abuses Frances as that never happened as she said to everyone and in her diaries her niece doesn’t blame Reggie for what happened she said she probably would of done the same with anyone else I don’t blame Reggie either I love Frances she was a beautiful and lovely girl even though I didn’t know her but I can tell they did truly love each other but I completely agree with u

[@markfleming.4334]

Maud & Mabel here couldn't control themselves, never mind London.

[@richardburns2613]

I know a taxi driver, who was there when ronnie shot george Cornell, and i know a just eat driver who was there when reggie killed McVitie, true story

[@peterprice5896]

What nipper Reid hasn’t mentioned was working class people with families who worked hard WERE FORBIDDEN TO MESS WITH it was only other firms who fought amongst themselves.

[@Omulosi]

Plenty of ordinary people were victims. Their rackets were funded by small business owners who were often victims of shocking violence, not only for not paying up but for misunderstandings. Ronnie even put author John Pearson in a neck-hold for a 'wrong' comment during an interview for his book about them. He was on the verge of losing consciousness when Reggie walked in: 'Easy Ron he's got to write our f**kin' book.' Both of them were capable of arbitrary violence against anyone in proximity, If that weren't the case witnesses like the barmaid wouldn't have been scared out of their wits to testify

[@peterprice5896]

@@Omulosi well all of the chaps say the same so thanks for your two peneth but I’ll believe them because I don’t know you from a bar of soap.

[@PaulDee-k1q]

BULLSHIT. RON KRAY FORCED YOUNG BOXERS INTO SEX.REG KRAY HREATENED THE BAMAID IN THE BLIND BEGGAR

[@KennyBerry-k7o]

That Foreman elevator stare would give anyone the chills

[@timlawson2408]

They had to film it separately, so Freddie & Albert never got near each other. Both told to stare at the camera going the otherway. Probably a good job.

[@KennyBerry-k7o]

Thanks for info buddy @@timlawson2408

[@internetpolification]

Totally staged

[@waverunner3911]

Nicking a working man's wages is as bad as nicking the kids food of there plate

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

Waterman, anything for a fee.

[@TracyHall-p4h]

Sad as it is,we're the krays biggest gangsters? Not sure the Richardson's were far more dangerous!! Ronnie Biggs became the most famous train robber,& he was certainly not? That's British fan base for you..

[@markfleming.4334]

Very true.

[@peaceLove1988]

Most famous from that era

[@markfleming.4334]

@@peaceLove1988 Yeah, but what did they really achieve? People put them on a pedestal & that to me is bizarre. No gangster or villain should be held up as a hero, especially these two.

[@peaceLove1988]

@@markfleming.4334 💯

[@strictlycasual765]

Biggs was by far the most famous train robber he just wasn't the main man on the job it was his escape what made him a household name

[@jamesclark1682]

Ronnie was a gangster, spent more than he earned. Reggie was a gangster with a head for business. Ronnie was reckless. By the time they faced the Crown, Reggie didn't trust his brother at all.

[@Rossboy2112]

They are way hyped up from what they actually were in my opinion they wernt very clever criminals I know that much the myth of the krays is a bit far fetched

[@CraigHalliday-h2g]

Reg and Ron were Legends

[@fabio9554]

Yes they used to be called the Krays twins

[@mcvicarross7]

Pair of fn Irons!

[@paulkemp6314]

SO MUCH WRONG !😂 NEVER KNEW GEORDGE FOREMAN GOT SHOT BY GINGER MARCS 😂😂😂😂

[@billybonds4449]

Freddie Foreman in another documentary said he was disappointed as it was Ginger's accomplice who he really wanted.

[@CraigHalliday-h2g]

The Kray's were the best

[@lucytupper69]

Best what…..?

[@billybonds4449]

The moral of that story is simply 'mess with Freddie at your PERIL.'