A topic of heavy debate: Do the Earthen Dwarfs belong in the Horde? While many seem to disagree with this some points are had in this episode! Follow us at BoxamusMike Co-Hosts @Skollshorties @jikai1992
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@thenerdbeast73758 ай бұрын
As a Horde main always let down by the fact that I couldn't play a dwarf, even though there are other races like Ogres and Gnolls who are higher up my want list I see this as an absolute win.
@NoxMachinima8 ай бұрын
Interesting discussion! I am not really hyped by the Earthen, but I do like the idea of the "outcast" clan joining the Horde... and the possibility of the Alliance being wrong. If they have some spiky tones, that would be great! Let's see where the storyline would go! :D
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
More spikes more spikes!! Thanks for watching Nox! Also I didn't get to comment on your new machinima but I watched it and really enjoyed it!
@NoxMachinima8 ай бұрын
@@BoxandJacquilope There are never enough spiky tones for the Horde!! Very welcome! I really enjoy the Kun-Lai Campfire podcast! It's really quiet and interesting to listen. Ahh, Thank you so much for watching my machinima!! I am glad to know you enjoyed it! 🤩 If you have any feedback, feel free to reach me! Happy holidays! :D
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
They should also give them different herritage armor more alliance and horde focus
@YdaxraTala8 ай бұрын
Blood Elves were once an Alliance race, and the Void Elves were once Blood Elves. Like the Pandaren could just make it like they choose where each individual feels where their allegiance aligns. I personally like a Vrykul race or something like a tall Human with more viking vibes, similar to Kul Tiran. Side Note: I like I stumbled upon a channel that doesn't outright make fun of Pandaren I've wanted to play one since the MOP trailer, but most places I look people made fun of em.. Might try it out it finally. 😅
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
Def give them a try!! They are easily my favorite race lore wise and visually!!
@RatchildUK8 ай бұрын
No, and they are one of the laziest allied races they have ever done. Why do they have hair? where are the rock and crystal beards? where are the glowing runic tattoos?
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
I'm really curious to see what they end up getting for customization overall. The heritage armor looked pretty cool at Blizzcon at the very least. Thanks for watching!
@blockedperfection92788 ай бұрын
Well we still have around a year before the expansion releases, we can just hope that some things change a little before the race actually releases
@aaronyayger8 ай бұрын
Kind of a stupid reason lmao. Most titan constructs have hair. Odyn has hair, Tyr has hair. You're reaching for a reason.
@faizanahmad77308 ай бұрын
Why are you so up in arms over them having hair? They are FAR from the first Titan constructs with hair lmao
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
I gonna create 2 earthen! A shaman with the Thundering Stormrider’s armor set plus the one-hand maces and maybe a paladin if it match their herritage set
@taurock9621 күн бұрын
Personally, I think I would've been more ok with Horde dwarves if Blizz gave us more allied races in this expansion (or at least presented us in their trailer like the Haronnir & potentially others that could show up as TWW goes on ?) Allied races are already a very cheap concept that's easy to make compared to more "conventionnal" new races (which I love), so reducing the effort on something that already takes less effort to create by making only one new race instead of two for both factions when we were hit with 3 new exclusive races for each factions when the concept of Allied races was even introduced in BFA ? It just does not live up to what's expected for a lot of fans. Despite it all, I'm gonna try and make an Earthen Shaman, about time I try to play that class
@btpingel8 ай бұрын
to be honest the earthen are a weak attempt to keep players interested. How many more forgotten areas are we going to be subjected too in this game. its getting old.
@faizanahmad77308 ай бұрын
Azj kahet... Is a forgotten area to you? I mean I agree we're waaaay past due to set an expansion in existing zones to update them, but this is the least "new random island no one knew about" we've had in quite a while
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
I just say Ogres and Hozen for the horde would keep me going 😅😂🎉
@joezar337 ай бұрын
@@lord_pamperin4233yeah definitely want the High Elves on the Alliance and Orges on the Horde.
@lord_pamperin42337 ай бұрын
@@joezar33 i feel like they could add some High elf customization and maybe a “heritage armor” with high elf colors
@Estraneo8 ай бұрын
Great discussion! Ban's scenario of this being a means of representing Horde ideals in Titan stories is probably the only way I'd be grudgingly okay(ish) with Earthen on Horde. Still, I don't know. Even that feels like it's simply attaching Alliance-flavored characters to the Horde to have more excuses to continue to write cosmic stories without having to worry about involving more Horde races. But I fully admit that's probably just me justifying the gut 'ick' response to further diluting the uniqueness of each faction. I'll have to see if the lore manages to shift my feelings on the matter as we learn more about the Earthen, but it's going to be a hard sell. Either way, the one thing from this discussion I can agree with wholeheartedly is that it's a crime Aysa hasn't been given more lore.
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! Aysa really really does need more lore! I'm a Ji fan but at the very least he's atleast gotten some stuff over the years the tushui have just been left out :(. I am really curious to see what they do with the earthen for sure!
@faizanahmad77308 ай бұрын
@@BoxandJacquilope God I hate her LMAO. She gave Ji such shit for actually coming up with a solution rather than letting the island just die. I STILL remember her saying while turning her back to Ji at the end of the pandaren intro "I hope you can live with yourself". Like yeah, I'm sure he'll live with himself just fine after saving the entire island 😂
@veryontron42798 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I can't let this short kings and queens slander go by any longer! They are welcome in the horde for they're dazzling crystal beards! FOR ROCK AND STONE!
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Blue haha! If I play mine Horde (which you know I will) their getting red crystals
@sikhjatt238 ай бұрын
I need to know their racials before i decide what class I'm going to play
@BoxandJacquilope8 ай бұрын
True! I haven't quite decided but I may go Paladin on mine as an alliance version since I play my Zandalari a bit!
@bonefetcherbrimley77408 ай бұрын
@@BoxandJacquilope A fun idea for how to RP an Earthen: Have them be a regular dwarf that stole mogu sorcery to cure the curse of flesh. Because mogu can do that in the lore. Cool vid btw!
@iceman33172 ай бұрын
I think they are neutral. As always. Earthen have always been neutral and with the present state of the world, they aren't 'joining' the Horde. But the same could be said for Pandaren? Do they really belong to the Horde? No not really. In fact, they were originally supposed to be an Alliance Race. But they are neutral. Same with the dracythyr.
@BoxandJacquilope2 ай бұрын
I respectfully have to disagree with the Dracthyr and Pandaren. Chen Stormstout in WC3 always felt extremely Horde centric. I always felt like they made sense on either faction given their ideology.
@studiosraufncingr69658 ай бұрын
nah, they dont belong in the horde. Idk what blizzard is thinking with this
@vissarionovichsalinas45498 ай бұрын
Because blizzard is Horde. and he doesn't want to play in the Alliance so he gives the Horde the option to obtain their races
@monkeyjames92858 ай бұрын
hey ban have his earthen monk mean could aruge roleplay wise monk just diffrent form shmanism in way. mistweaving spirit. sh aruge chi element in way so earthen could in thoery work just say shman but gameplay wise there monk akain to like how forsaken can be priests gameplay wise but lore wise more shadow priest 90% time. also wondering how gona do earthen death knights. only can see it working is there 5th generation lot closer 2nd gen aka found rune weapon slowly start giving into death knight ways. me i think earthen prob make 3 pally hunter and warlock before bash me about warlock just gonna aruge that joined reactly ic learning fel cause well see other warlock doing like wait why are they able do that keep control why can't i. thus earthen warlocks. pally might be ify but i play see what i can find. hunter cause come on now need seee what starting pet is
@pragalu8 ай бұрын
Story telling wise ... If we are working and fighting along side the Earthen, why would you add a completely different race as playable? Dracthyr, pandas, both were alongside the player. Earthen is already in split factions. If they cant decide on a philosophy, how could they decide that they only work with alliance? You WANTED to play as the joke race of panda? Had to turn it off.... Not well thought out talking point
@Skollshorties8 ай бұрын
This comment is not a well thought out talking point.
@vissarionovichsalinas45498 ай бұрын
The Horde already has humans (Dead), Night Elves (Nightborn), High elves (Blood Elves) and now dwarves (Earthen) . How disgusting that the Alliance loses everything that makes it unique.
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
Lol the alliance got void elves (blood elves) rember that the most of the high elves left the alliance and joined the horde so it is a horde race
@vissarionovichsalinas45498 ай бұрын
@@lord_pamperin4233 The Alliance recovered what belongs to it by right. and they are not even the originals. The relationship between Humans and High Elves dates back more than two thousand years. How much is the relationship between Blood Elves and Horde? maybe 20 years? pppfff. Ok they left the Alliance in Warcraft 3 but they could easily rejoin in TBC. The thing is that Blizzar knew that if the Blood Elves returned to the ALLIANCE the Horde would easily disappear. Why don't the Alliance get Forest Trolls? If they left the Horde and are enemies of the High Elves? Why don't they give us Ogres if they also left the Horde? If everything left by the Alliance goes to the Horde, what do we have? more Recolors of our races.
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
@@vissarionovichsalinas4549… the alliance didn’t want the blood elves plus jaina purged them from dalaran so they don’t want to rejoin
@vissarionovichsalinas45498 ай бұрын
@@lord_pamperin4233 The Alliance has attempted twice to bring the Sin'dorei back, the first was with Varian but Jaina secretly purged Dalaran and made Lor'themar Theron refuse. The second time was with Anduin who sent Alleria to negotiate the return of the Sindorei, but Lor'themar obviously quickly refused. So the fact that the Alliance doesn't want the Blood Elves is a lie.
@lord_pamperin42338 ай бұрын
@@vissarionovichsalinas4549 they did’t want them at that is why they are in the Horde.. and Lor’themar will for sure not rejoin them after the purged of his people.. belfs are a horde race