The "Kung Fu Flash" Cart for the C64 and the Bad Idea Barta Board

[@TexElec]

Hey Adrian, thanks for the video on the Bad Idea Barta! Sorry it acted up. When I first designed it, I was trying to read IO calls on the bus, so I could tailor messages to each event. Unfortunately, I was simply unable to get a 16MHz chip to make any sense out of it. I should have used a faster IC, but I was running out of time. When I sent the lines off to you guys, I was not able to get it to work the way I wanted, so I made the lines a bit more generic than I had originally planned. Now, it's pretty crude, but the code simply looks to see when the IOW line goes low, and goes into random mode for the other message set. I can only guess that for some reason, the ISA bus is never dropping the IOW line, and it should many times before POST ends. Maybe there is something up with the bus on this machine? I know it works for other folks, I have gotten a few messages about, how do I shut this thing up when it in my computer? :-) I really figured it would be out of the machine more than in, but I did post the code on GitHub and folks can modify and upload their own messages, etc. github.com/texelec/BadIdeaBarta

[@adriansdigitalbasement]

Heh interesting! I have so far only tested in that one Pentium machine. I'll try it in something slow like an XT. (I have one on the bench at the moment.) Could also be that the ISA bus is bridged and since I had nothing plugged in other than the Barta board -- that it wasn't bothering with the signals there? The ISA slots do work fine on that motherboard as it's my go-to test machine for all my ISA and PCI cards.

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@adriansdigitalbasement maybe it got rick rolled (tivoo)

[@hafkensite]

Is the usb switch relevant to which mode it runs?

[@countersurprise]

I think the POST beeps are the result of not having a keyboard plugged in. Perhaps the card works after POST which would mean you need to plug in a keyboard?

[@Lachlant1984]

I just ordered a bad idea barta board, I don't have a computer it can go in, but at least I can power it from my USB battery bank, I mainly bought it to hear all the phrases built into it.

[@AmstradExin]

The 'No-bit Dance party' phrase was the absolute best! :D

[@stefanocrespi5424]

"I have all the cheats enabled, so I'm not gonna die" 1 sec later "Oh, that was a death"

[@Cabalist3131]

V.00000000002 of that board needs a RF shield!

[@AmstradExin]

Soldered on tight to make it a better surprise when it eventually does leak.

[@DavePoo]

Also, lots of microchips with no heat sinks that run super hot on a 12V supply.

[@cheapasstech]

A rusty one having a few holes so the alkaline sprays all around

[@eagerestwolf]

The warning with the dead fish is a Marine Pollutant warning. It’s one of the standard hazard classifications in North America for hazardous materials.

[@AndrewTubbiolo]

This is the channel where a man gains all kinds of electronic apparatus and loses his pancreas.

[@mgas1237]

Adrian, You provide us entertainment and education. Its been a welcome relief over the last year for sure. Even when you're working on something I never will, its still entertaining. Thank you for all you do. What fun as usual :) BIBB ordered.

[@krull1981]

Re: Giana Sisters, they put a full page advertisement out in the micro magazines with the tagline "The Brothers are History". This made Nintendo look closer at the game and they realised it was a knock off and sent them a cease and desist. The publisher pulled it from the shelves within the first week of sale meaning the legit game is very rare. It has a cult status because the only "legit" way to play it back in the day was via pirated tapes. I suppose a more modern comparison would be the Thrill Kill on the PS1, everyone i knew with a chipped PS1 had that back in the late 90's, where as ole goody two shoes me had to settle for the sanitsed version Wu Tang: Taste the Pain.

[@AmartharDrakestone]

Thrill Kill isn't really a good comparison, since it wasn't actually officially released, while Giana Sisters was. There do exist legit copies of Giana.

[@HoboVibingToMusic]

@@AmartharDrakestone I mean, basically everyone knows what Thrill Kill was/is. So it is, the best(?) way to compare it in a way... IMO.

[@Renville80]

Interesting. I knew Giana Sisters was a commercial product, and knew it was widely pirated, but never knew about the infringement complaint.

[@tomr3422]

Adrian's Digital Basement Classic and New Adrian's Digital basement. Love them both

[@AmstradExin]

Also, I love how he threatened the Motherboard with this card. And the Computer says 'No'.

[@8_Bit]

Super Snapshot represent! Thanks Adrian :)

[@AuralVirus]

"Pity" (in a way) the apps & games weren't on ferric cassette tapes -. As a budding young pirate having attempted, with reasonably high success rates to load games recorded to tape by our friends and psased around to be recorded again and again (our parents tape to tape "hi-fi" machines were the holy grail). We had to pirate or play the same 5 games we owned for the 20th time... that month (games were short unless text only) so the magic trick's required to load MANY a "tape stored" game were to adjust treble & volume to the point of it being a true art form and if that failed (due to it being recorded by a friend on an equally low quality tape machine more often than not being multiple generations from source and a c90 tape full of games (40 to 50 or more) thus a true masters master would have learnt to adjust the tape players head by micro increments. Not only that each game would be noted on the cassettes insert or more often, due to a huge list of games each having come from multiple sopurces with numerous generations prior to the current recording, a provided sheet of paper passed with each tape, with previous recorders notes written for the next person and to include our own specific magic recipe of edits to get the game to load. Each game would be not only noted by the time it took on the tape but at what volume & treble setting were required to load the game and most of the time with actual semi coded info describing if the head required adjusting how much, with "yes" or "no" instructions and if "Yes" further side notes would include L+, L- or L or R+, R & R- meaning which direction to turn the screw and how much, of course + & - denoting the severity of required adjustment !!! eg "Sabotage 4:06-6:23 V-5/T8-Y-L+" which would translate to the game Sabotage was on the tape beginning at 4 minutes and 6 seconds to 6 minutes and 23 seconds (load time of nearly 3 minutes (although I think that is low balled) then "Volume to be set to 5, Treble 8" Then the tape head would need adjusting Left a LOT." I think Sabotage was a Sinclair Spectrumn game (too "advanced" for a Vic 20 or C64) - Sinclairs weren't a big thing in the U.S were they? if at all, but here in the UK they were massive and "Sir Clive Sinclair was hyped as if here were the UK's equivalent to Wozniak or a modern day Elon Musk, in honesty he was neither - a case of his not so great computers being out at the right time / right "place" aka a Britain who wantedfd appear yuppie as poss, a perfect figure head for Thatcher & her image of britain. [grrr] oh how i miss those days of screeching banshee / retina burning simulated psychedelic load screens ... ok, no i don't but I do miss the years passed. well that ended up far longer than intended and if ANYONE read it, i'll be shocked - but its written now so... if only it were written on stone to be found 1000's of years from now to be admired by far future gamers..... 0.0

[@chris-tal]

I remember being tricked into thinking there's a faulty VGA card in my system by some brands (S3?) with the monitor unattached or turned off, but the VGA error beep code (1x long, 3x short) seem to overlap with the keyboard controller error on older motherboards with an Award BIOS. How naughty would it be to write a simple program for the Bad Idea Barta that plays the Apple chime (with a few seconds of delay) after being powered and put it into a PC and trick some friends into believing you've moved an Apple mobo into a PC case. :)

[@c128stuff]

GEOS is special, as it uses its own device specific storage drivers. sd2iec has special code to support this, but you can't do that by simply redirecting the io vectors, this must be an IEC device. But there is hope for this, in general, as there exists a 'kernal io' storage driver now, very preliminary still, and intended for supporting software iec. It needs some more work to make it work with redirected io vectors to bypass the iec bus completely, but with those in place, it should also be possible to make geos work on this card.

[@DerekWitt]

It’s missing Dave Jones: We’re in like Flim

[@HometownUnicorn]

28:20 "Adrian was Kung Fu Flashing"

[@stevethepocket]

Print Shop and GEOS crashing

[@richards7909]

The second channel should be called Adrian's Shed as having two digital basements is just showing off ;-)

[@cappaculla]

All my favourite KZbinrs on one board !

[@Cincinnatijames]

Adrian: AvE "chooch level" reference. Me: (insert Captain America meme) "I get that reference."

[@proCaylak]

I'm uninitiated about this, I've looked at AvE and it doesn't show sub count. Do you know why?

[@Cincinnatijames]

@@proCaylak not a clue, social blade list 1.03 million last time it was listed. Maybe it keeps away emails wanting him to hawk Raid Shadow legends.

[@StrapMerf]

Adrian: This computer is so completely dodgy... hardwired bits, soldered on power wires..... Also Adrian: Why you no work computer....

[@revelationnow]

The somewhat unintuitive thing about the Super Snapshot is that pressing the special button doesn't just take you back to the menu, it also snapshots the memory, so subsequent resets will 'revert the saved state' to memory. Thats the power of the cartridge, other than the machine monitor.

[@williamsquires3070]

Well, that’s the first time I’ve seen the computer malfunction BEFORE you put the card in! 🤣😝 I guess it’s sort of like taking the cat/dog to the vet and having them go hide in hopes you’ll just give up. Since hiding is out of the question; it decided to throw a fit. 🤔

[@Kackspack0815]

1:33 What kind of knife is this, ceramic or teflon blade maybe❓

[@StephenGutknecht]

@3:00 the board also could have a version 2 with space for dozens of the worst kind of capacitors.

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

A certain canadian youtuber who loves the word chooch. That can only be AVE! 😆

[@fnjesusfreak]

On the Apple ][ version of Print Shop, that error comes up because of copy protection. Maybe it does a low-level access of the disk?

[@666Astrosmurf]

Good selection of voice actors =) I sub to all of them

[@renepedersen7141]

KungFuFlash design is from Denmark :)

[@sdurutovic]

I was buy Kung fu befeore 2 weeks. Cartridges CRT type 23 and 13 actually not work. When mount d64 image and load basic program after that you can show directory and save prg to d64 image. Nice piece if hardware steel in development.

[@estebanquito545]

brings back a lot memories i cant help but comparing this device speed to my dattassete's!

[@kaczan3]

Congratulations on 100k. Now you're playing with power.

[@sprybug]

Congrats on 100K Subs!

[@laupert9021]

Don't be modest! You are a celebrity now. One might even say KZbin star :D

[@stonent]

Barta Board killed the KZbin Star.

[@tomscomputerchannel2925]

The Bad idea Barta board was quite funny. Thanks for the presentation of the kung fu flash for me as an german enthusiast and KZbinr is this very interesting and helpful. 👍

[@toffhatton542]

Ik it was a year ago but what a missed opportunity to call the second channel Adrian’s analog basement

[@fcastellanos]

Thanks Adrian. I've just acquired a Kung Fu Flash card and it's very useful to have the cons and pros of it. Then, probably the best option could be to have both the Kung Fu Flash and the SD2IEC cards and use the later for disk-related thing. Perhaps even to have the EasyFlash is a bonus too!

[@fattomandeibu]

I still have my Turrican and Turrican 2 tapes. Amazing games. In the first game, the jetpack stage music always got all the kids super hyped up.

[@mallon04008]

The dead fish logo is to indicate a marine pollutant. Great video keep up the good work!

[@anotheruser9876]

What is your opinion on the PI1541?

[@sdurutovic]

Nice piece of hardware. My recomendation to buy.

[@anotheruser9876]

@@sdurutovic Well, I build the Pi hat for it and mounted it on a Pi3B+ and it works but I would like to know what Adrian thinks of it compared to the other solutions.

[@LKattest]

You're a true gentlemen :) thanx for al the content!

[@peddersoldchap]

Is it possible to use a freezer snapshot and some other snapshot at the same time? Noone ever talks about this on the videos about the Kung Fu Flash.

[@Angellmbrr]

100K Wohoooooo! Congrats!

[@infinitecanadian]

Who was the Canadian KZbinr that you mentioned?

[@markbrown8097]

AvE

[@systemchris]

I have one of those Kung Fu flash, it's really good, especially for its price point of about £30, works great with my original equipment

[@eebaker699]

Great reviews. Is there a KungFu cartridge for the Vic 20?

[@coryengel]

I’m glad people keep innovating with things like the Kung Fu Flash card, but all of them seem like inferior 1541 Ultimate II+ alternatives.

[@PhaQ2]

Should've named the second channel. *"Adrian's Diabetic Basement"*

[@wbfaulk]

Without a bracket on it, it's totally unclear to me that the Bad Idea Barta board is an ISA card. I thought it was going to be a VIC-20 cartridge or something.

[@chuckherndon3251]

I bought an EasyFlash last year and unfortunately it seems to be defective. There are diags you can run, but nothing has ever showed up defective with it. Anything I load on it locks up, across many machines I've tried. Anyhow, I got my KFF back in Jan from TFW8B. It works great in conjunction with the SD2IEC. One isn't a replacement for the other directly, just like the EasyFlash couldn't replace an SD2IEC either. It's a step forward though. The KFF works with quite a few games without issue, so long as those are fitted for a single disk and no disk swapping is required. If disk swapping is needed, it just simply isn't an option as there is no way to do that with current firmware. Anyhow, it is great to see so much hardware and software continue to be developed for the C64, almost 40 years after it came out.

[@nefaurora]

Interesting that when I run the 8-bit Dance Party either PAL or NTSC on my VICE Pc Emulator, The squirreling snake that dances in the middle of the screen does not appear! Weird! Try it on VICE...! :o) Tony K. , Melbourne, Florida

[@Lachlant1984]

I got my bad idea barta board today and I really like it. I don't have a computer I can install it into, nor do I have batteries to solder to it, but I like it, I can just power it from my power bank. It's fun to play with. I have noticed at least with my board that if I set the battery charge switch to the charge/melt position, I hear less static through the speaker than I do if the switch is set to the less smoke position, I'm not too sure why that is.

[@cs121287]

Thank you for the 8 bit dance party Adrian! Can I requst one for my birthday?? 🎂🥮

[@GarthBeagle]

You're a celebrity now Adrian. Just remember, there's many levels of fame 😄

[@ShieTar_]

Yeah, and I hear they are planning to add annother 10 levels with the next expansion, too.

[@dergrunepunkt]

Adrian, I'm so happy you don't be doing any candy tasting on this channel!, it bores me to death, I know it sounds really negative, but is not, in all honesty I think it goes in detriment of the quality of your now "main" channel. Congrats and keep it up!.

[@sniperviperman6400]

Awesome video again. Have you tried the Ultimate II+ cartridge before? I have 1 myself and able to restore cassettes to tap files, load all sorts of crt files and even use 2MB extension to run geos.

[@TzOk]

I'm pretty new to the C64, I got a C64C from my friend, and the first device I bought was Tape Cart SD - kind of ok, but net really. Then I got Kung Fu Flash PCB, and made the device myself (without a microscope or even a magnifying glass). It not only allows you to load the C64 Diagnostic Cartridge, but also the Dead Test! Although exiting from the Dead Test back to the Kung Fu Cart loader is a little tricky ;)

[@c128stuff]

1x long, 3x short beeps at post is video on an IBM machine and many clones. This can be as simple as not having a display connected, depending on the actual video card.

[@Natomon01]

The dead-fish/tree pictograph is used to indicate an ecological hazard.

[@BilisNegra]

Top retro content creators for the messages in the BIBB. Of course, we would like to have more of them, but I'll mention Jan Beta for one. I mean, come on, if not himself at least Chris could have recorded an impersonation :D

[@awilliams1701]

You obviously haven't seen sam's journey. I was completely blown away by it. But yeah in many ways it's like a basic SNES title. It seems too advanced to be considered NES. And it's running on my C64.

[@claudioquintanilla1471]

but sadly CRT version only runs on PAL machines, CRT NTSC version needs REU....

[@awilliams1701]

@@claudioquintanilla1471 he has a pal machine. I have a 1541 ultimate 2+ which does up to 16mb reu. There are options.

[@succuvamp_anna]

I bought that Bad Idea Barta Board, too many of my favorite KZbinrs on it not to lol

[@Coffeebreak6329]

Me too.

[@briangleeson1528]

Would MMC #50 be a special "Live Broadcast"?

[@didierderny6116]

I have some concern about the kungfu flash and I'll never connect one to my c64 1/ I don't see any level shifters... the arm are 5v tolerant only if the arm is powered first... I don't see how the c64 could be powered after the arm 2/ what happened if the arm is stuck on a lengthy task... buffers would also permit to avoir bus contention problems... frankly if I tried this type of products I would use the TeensyRom at least it has 74LVC245 between the C64 bus and the ARM..

[@DannyBeans]

"Chooch Level" is doubly appropriate - in Italian-American slang, it means "dumbass."

[@WilliamLDeRieuxIV]

8:09 *AMI BIOS Beep Codes* www.techspot.com/community/topics/the-complete-bios-beep-guide.95391/ *Memory Failure* 1 long, 3 short Memory test failure- A fault has been detected in memory above 64KB *Video Failure* 1 long, 2 short Failure in video system- An error was encountered in the video BIOS ROM, or a horizontal retrace failure has been encountered What this means is that one (or more) memory modules are faulty (they are not passing the built-in memory check) -- re-seat memory modules, or replace the faulty module(s). As far as the video error goes -- use on-board video (if available) or put the video card back in.

[@Dukefazon]

- . . . is usually a video card problem, I had it many times on my smaller PC because if you force the card all the way in the screw did line up, if you aligned up the screw hole the card didn't sit perfectly. Part of it was the backer plate that held the motherboard was bowing in and out, later I learned how to handle it properly. (it's an Abit motherboard but I read that other brands use the same code)

[@woldemunster9244]

No bad-idea-board quote about using paperclips with dremel to "fix" 8-bit things?

[@alynicholls3230]

i use those small speakers in my metal detector designs/builds.

[@10MARC]

I like the Kung Fu Flash quite well - I reviewed in 100% NTSC mode and it actually worked quite well! It handles 1 MB Cartridge files really well, too, so new games like Soul Force works great.

[@christopherbaar4498]

Since the Kung Fu Flash is incompatible with fast loaders, wouldn't GEOS's built in fast loader prevent it from working on it?

[@noferblatz]

I asked this question before-- what is that little 2 inch display to the upper left of your main screen? It runs some sort of Atari animation.

[@huubpeters7972]

It's called a "Divoom Tivoo". I think he has done a review on it years ago (not sure)

[@darkwinter6028]

I have more-or-less 20/20 vision; but I absolutely depend on my stereo microscope for soldering. It’s amazing what you can do with one.

[@KolliRail]

One of the best features of the Kung Fu Flash is the price!

[@Nizchka61]

Still switched to USB power!!! You have to switch it back adrian

[@organiccold]

What a nice computer. Compaq really was ahead in this one with all the details.

[@Okurka.]

Award BIOS beep codes: 1 long, 2 short Indicates a video error has occurred and the BIOS cannot initialize the video screen to display any additional information. 1 long, 3 short Video card not detected (re-seat video card) or bad video card.

[@adriansdigitalbasement]

You know what it was in the end? The power supply under the motherboard was shorting across the PCI slots! Even though the motherboard was on a metal plate, it had some openings in it and when placed a specific way on top of the PSU, the PSU edge could short some pins. I have since taped an old 5.25" floppy disk to the PSU and that problem is cured.

[@SudosFTW]

3:36 you're either talking about 1puglife or AvE. both use somewhat the same dialect but you can tell who said what first in most cases... in this case I think AvE picked it up from pug and it went from there.

[@BlueCollarBachelor]

Keep your Richard in a bad habit.

[@DavePoo]

The Kung fu cart does seem very much like the BackBit. I have a BackBit and it doesn't require different firmware versions for NTSC and PAL. I believe the NTSC is the harder one to get working as the clock runs slightly faster on NTSC. I know all stuff doesn't work on BackBit due to the way it works (similar to the Kung Fu), but lots of stuff does work and it also supports the dead test and diag carts (which on BackBit you can get into by using the single button on the cart without having to launch any UI).

[@MagnumForce51]

Funnilly enough this would be the perfect device for programming in Macintosh startup sounds. It would be pretty out of place on a old PC but hey I would have loved to have something like this when I was younger. I recall using MacOS cursors/icons on Windows XP back in the day. :P Too bad there isn't a PCI version. I would have considered getting one for this very reason for my main PC. But my mobo's only PCI slot will soon be populated by a SCSI card so a moot point now I guess. :P

[@adriansdigitalbasement]

Ha that's true! How funny would that be? Just detect power-on and play a sound. Haha .... or even read the POST codes and play a system good sound at that time.

[@MagnumForce51]

@@adriansdigitalbasement Yep, and have it play the sad mac tune if there's a post error code of any kind. :D EDIT: As I recall with vintage macs the boot chime happens before the sad mac so you'd always have it play the first boot sound on initial POST and play sad mac if a post error code happens.

[@DanafoxyVixen]

PRO TIP: The Bad Idea Barta Board works the best when populated with the per-existing leaking batterys found from dead motherboards as a way to atone from their bad behavior

[@Ramdileo_sys]

i will have to check Adrian's Digital Basement II ....... i mean.. Doctors Orders rigth?.... :-DD

[@TheUtuber999]

I'd like to submit a few orders. 😍

[@rogerlundstrom6926]

I don't know what chipset you have there, but.. when I heard that error code, I ASSUMED it was the one for the absent keyboard... then you removed the graphics card so you could get a graphics card not detected error.. either way.. instead of just plugging/unplugging things, I DO tend to connect a display whether I intend to use it much or not.. because.. SOMETIMES.. just sometimes. ·(more exactly: almost all times when it isn't a graphics error).. any potential error code is actually written out what it means.

[@philsbbs]

Another great video.

[@dintyshideaway9505]

Can't wait for Sepcandy on the new channel.

[@Porygonal64]

You got 100,000 subs, you are totes a celebrity dude Or at the very least a VIP or Very Notable Person

[@BrokenSet]

When do we get a 32-bit dance party? You know, for XP machines.

[@MrMe4444444]

Could you try it on a revA?

[@awilliams1701]

The more of these disk drive alternatives the more I love the U2+. It handles everything except the more advanced cartridges.

[@antoniomeloni8174]

Another very interesting video, thank you! Sure you’re a celebrity! But please, keep making video like this one 🙂

[@TaiyakiFox]

Greetings from Germany, I love your Videos 👍

[@Codeaholic1]

AvE, LGR, Periwhosit. Love it!

[@fluxilla]

Hi Adrian, I have (and highly recommend) the microscope assembly sold by northridgefix. He's got a number of KZbin videos about it, and it really works well especially with an articulating arm. It takes some getting used to working under a scope, but for those of us with aging eyeballs, it's worth it.

[@gklinger]

The theme song for this channel should be Every Day Is Halloween.

[@retroandgaming]

The producers of Gianna Sisters where sued, or at least stoped, by Nintendo. Therefore they renamed the franchise and the sequal was named Hard'n'Heavy

[@guillaumegaudin694]

2nd channel should be renamed : Adrian's Digital Gummy Bears

[@crayzeape2230]

GEOS has it's own fast disk routines, so unless it was somehow patched it's a big NOPE.

[@pascalvorbach6829]

Yeah it seems there are a few viewers/subscribers from germany ^^ Greetings from Germany. :-)

[@Kackspack0815]

Nice AvE reference. :)

[@Legendenwelten]

GEOS has an integrated fastloader. This always annoyed me, since it was way slower than my hardware fastloader with it's parallel cable to the 1541 (PROLOGIC DOS).

[@adamsmees4250]

i completely want the bad idea, it's the funniest thing i've seen for ages!

[@adamsmees4250]

it's almost conceptual art!