The Lake Mead B-29

[@voltathan2067]

This will come in handy durring the second battle of Hoover Dam...

[@pillgrimm]

Ok boomer

[@voltathan2067]

donutdoode69 Fallout new Vegas reference

[@voltathan2067]

donutdoode69 The entire comment section is new vegas references. Just because you don't play it doesn't mean "no one" does.

[@_u0nda928]

@@voltathan2067 Lmfao he likes his own comments.

[@MrHouse-tz6is]

Scarlett Lulls ok boomer...

[@EAFTL]

I don't understand why they don't raise the bomber when it's such an easy task. They only need to find someone who goes to the bank of Lake Mead while carefully avoiding Cazadors and Lakelurks nearby, puts a rebreather on, swims to middle of the lake, puts 2 ballsts under the wings, swims back and pushes a button to fill the ballasts with air. It's really not that hard. He can even take a rest at Camp Golf afterwards if he's still on good terms with the NCR. 😥

[@asian_slav1851]

Not gonna lie, You got us in the first half.

[@adonutlol1697]

He should be taking a rest in The Fort, like a real chad.

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

I knew it!

[@Mr.Freshies]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@pyro7358]

What are you talking about lol

[@drgabe2908]

*Big iron starts playing*

[@jmanthackdaddy]

Big Iron on his hiiiippppp

[@ayeuplink1428]

I was looking for this comment

[@brucehc4975]

*COMMIE DETECTED*

[@jameswhoneedstoknow5148]

I heard it 3 times in a row one time

[@rileykorte]

Boomers 😂

[@thanos6346]

“Crashing a B-29 into Lake Mead almost makes you wish for a pair of deployable ballast tanks…”

[@Chronosmaster002]

Patrolling the Mojave Almost Makes You Wish For a Nuclear Winter

[@easypete1014]

"Was a prospector until I decided to settle here to get away from the NCR. Now I just take it easy and help out with the Brahmin and Bighorners."

[@MajorT0m]

Later!

[@littlepip0025]

What a feat those divers have accomplished, I couldn't get past all those Lakelurks like they clearly could.

[@0pt1m1sm]

I only found 2 when I went threre

[@znixia]

I accidently made the NCR guards mad now every time I go there I have to bring my guass rifle

[@rrrrrrr9859]

Arcade kept getting stuck on the scavenger barge thing

[@dannyengineer9862]

Did you find this in your recommended too?

[@0pt1m1sm]

@@dannyengineer9862 yea

[@tangyorange6509]

National Park Service looking at comments: “WHAT DO THEY MEAN THE BATTLE OF THE DAM? WHOS THE BOOMERS!? WHY 200 YEARS?!??

[@therealdiamondcat3246]

In 1 year 0 replies For a very good comment

[@murci981]

Omg they dont know the truth dont spoil it for them 😂

[@theoneandonlydogmeat9708]

THAT IS if its still there!

[@Chuked]

they’ve really never played it have they?

[@Chuked]

@Ezra Olivarez FALLOUT NEW VEGAS FACTION GO PLAY IT

[@maskey4675]

And so the Courier who had cheated death in the cemetery outside Goodsprings, cheated death once again, and the Mojave Wasteland was forever changed.

[@Chuked]

After the battle of Hoover Dam the Legion took over much of New Vegas and peacefully lorded over the rest, Caesar entered the strip as though it was his triumph

[@gosia21188]

The Legion pushed the NCR out of New Vegas entirely, driving them back to the Mojave Outpost. Under the Legion's banner, civilization - unforgiving as it was - finally came to the Mojave Wasteland

[@mrnigz746]

The Courier with the aid of Yes man drove out the NCR and the legion from the region

[@WUZLE]

The New California Republic celebrated its second victory at Hoover Dam, establishing definitive control over the entire Mojave Wasteland. Soon after, they negotiated terms to annex The Strip, Freeside, and many surrounding communities. The Mojave Wasteland, at long last, had entirely fallen under the NCR's banner.

[@stootsmcgoots]

War....war never changes

[@jamesvasel8941]

I saw this story in a video game called Fallout New Vegas. They did some nice research on that game. Obviously, from the comments before I'm not the first one to recognize that. Much respect to all Fallout Fans.

[@dominicguerrero6080]

Yes son, all I need is for you to have some faith

[@thatssofetch3481]

Andrew Milton red dead kinda sucks

[@aames1089]

That’s So Fetch! It kinda doesn’t.....at all

[@iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929]

I just thought that it was something that they added in, I had no idea that it was a real thing!

[@unclelarryboy1608]

"we're preserving it by watching the mussels eat away at it." Your park service philosophy at its best.

[@fsj197811]

Yep goes right along with letting the forests burn rather than cleaning them up. Lovely.

[@NeverOhVer]

Damn what mod are they using. Fallout New Vegas looks so realistic in this video.

[@kaiishere016]

It must be hard for the divers to get there with all the lakelurks

[@nigwardtesticles8004]

Must’ve used a stealth boy

[@lord_vader6545]

Stealth boys brother

[@buixrule]

What the hell is a lakelurk? I've never heard of that term.

[@210Caveman26]

*Quest Added: VOLARE!*

[@themightyranger6321]

*help the boomers around nellis*

[@hachipanki8634]

This mission was a nightmare for me xD

[@Chuked]

@@hachipanki8634 nah, just have high Science! before doing it and get the solar parts from Helios and the solar array will give you like 40% of the affinity points u need with the boomers

[@ReBrande.d]

Having thalassophobia and raising the b-29 is a nightmare for me

[@Strigon01]

I remember when it was raised from the water and assisted me in defeating Caesar's Legion at the battle of Hoover Dam. It was a glorious sight. Long live the NCR.

[@animq4ionboi.153]

ew

[@RichieGonzales_28]

Ah yes hello fellow new Vegas player

[@thekachigga9255]

Was gonna like your comment until you said “long live the ncr”

[@Strigon01]

@@thekachigga9255 >:)

[@JLuna-lf9fd]

You know ace combat franchise too? Man you're Based

[@biaggiwins]

For those asking to raise it, a few more years it will be on dry ground. You'll be able to walk to it.

[@hermos3602]

No, it'll still be underwater in 2281.

[@Juicemanreal]

@Michael's Productions he was making a joke anout fallout new vegas

[@Juicemanreal]

@Michael's Productions yes but the person you responded to was making a reference to it as its set in 2281 and the bomber still sits at the bottom of the lake

[@Juicemanreal]

@Michael's Productions bruh

[@levy1294]

@@Juicemanreal 💀

[@Zekesaxman]

I wish I could thank you enough for the digital archive of this aircraft. I love that it is on national park land, so there is a very very slim chance of the plane being recovered and altered from its resting place. Hopefully we can watch this beautiful aircraft settle in for the long haul. Love this!

[@Videosnosubs]

I'll see you in a couple hundred years, my Lady of the Lake

[@Nukacherry16]

Yaaasss

[@Jamrom23]

After loosing the last one in Greenland to a lack of a simple hand-held fire extinguisher, this one should be brought up and restored just for the sake of keeping it in a museum. It has a great back story and looks to be in fantastic shape. No one died in it, so it's not a grave. Bring it up and get in into a hanger. They don't even have to restore it, just clean off the muck and make it show worthy. Patina is in anyway.

[@danielbrooks9508]

I remember watching the Greenland B29 video and absolutely could not believe the ending. Probably the best remaining artifact from WWII and they let it burn up. I almost cried. I agree with you, sir!

[@glenkeating7333]

@@danielbrooks9508 . Same here. I watched that same video a few years ago. I couldn't believe that they didn't have a fire extinguisher on hand!

[@XXformula]

@@danielbrooks9508 I watched that PBS special when I was about 8-9 years old with my dad being completely unaware of the final outcome......I was so angry watching that thing burn to the ground I almost cried.....they were so close.

[@danielbrooks9508]

@@XXformula Yeah, the video (or documentary, as it seemed) was so interesting and it got me very excited that a perfect original B29 was returning from WWII and then all of a sudden there was a short, a small fire, and we watched it just get destroyed. When I said I about cried man I was almost 50 years old! It was horrible.

[@steves186]

That wasn't the last one. There's one in Wright Patterson Air Force Museum.

[@BAMA355NATION]

“We are preserving the wreckage.” Hmmmm....... you can’t stop the mussels from damaging the aircraft but you’re “preserving” it?!?!

[@blurglide]

Yeah....I'm guessing the only thing they're doing is patrolling to prevent souvenir hunters from picking it apart, but they're definitely not actively preventing deterioration.

[@hycron1234]

-preserving- profiting.

[@lrwado8150]

It's a ''make work'' job for the divers...gotta justify their existence somehow! How about they figure out where to attach the lift points, and make preparations to get it outta there!

[@BAMA355NATION]

Explosive Bolts They can remove the aircraft and display it in a building in the park. They could restore it then display it. They could let a private organization remove and restore it. So many options rather than “killing” the ecology.

[@BAMA355NATION]

Explosive Bolts Since you’re clearly intelligent.

[@madtrucker0983]

Surprising how far animatronics have come over the years. That ranger almost looks real. They animated her hands too much though.

[@natsirtboy4548]

wtf

[@andyroo3022]

Your on drugs

[@noteimportax6477]

Yeah its a cherry 1999 old ugly model

[@madtrucker0983]

@@noteimportax6477 🤣 You're reaching way back now

[@noteimportax6477]

@@madtrucker0983 😂

[@stevenmcsindi1949]

As a child I knew it as Boulder Dam. I am 81 now. Thanks!

[@Rocknranchman]

Raise it , restore it, respect it! More future generations would have more access to it (and its history) at a museum rather than 200ft on the floor of Lake Mead! I mean come on!

[@minnesotangaming8966]

Rocknranchman especially since there’s only 3 left that we know of that are restored

[@brendenpavao2071]

@@minnesotangaming8966 There are 22 of them that are restored or preserved, and there are two that are still flying. One of them just finished restoration in 2016.

[@minnesotangaming8966]

Brenden Pavao restored fully... as in working order

[@cambellschunky704]

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think current or future generations would give a damn about it.

[@brendenpavao2071]

@@minnesotangaming8966 There are two that are flying, and there will likely only ever be two of them flying, as sad as it is to say. There aren't many people or foundations out there willing to spend the money to keep one airworthy. There could have been three had Darryl Greenamyer not attempted to fly Kee Bird with fuel secured improperly near the APU.

[@ClaytonHartin]

In Fallout New Vegas I floated the B29 to the surface. Later on in the game the plane was fixed and flown once again.

[@FavioredValkyrie]

That needs th happn 4 real.

[@brendo4028]

Jacob Barresi it’s the internet why do you give a fuck

[@FavioredValkyrie]

@@sheilabarresi7302 instant messages do not need proper grammar because you do not speak it you text it,one number is easier to type then a three letter word and the word's you're looking for in that low vocabulary of yours are as follows,"You need to learn how to spell or not be lazy". But thankyou for showing the chat how inept you are.

[@thebes118]

I think it's on GOG now. I plan to get it but I have been just playing World of Warships for two years now.

[@A.204-w2d]

@@thebes118 did you get it yet

[@maxboost81]

It's pretty sad they're leaving it down there to rot.. the aircraft seems to be in pretty good shape and would be a good candidate for restoration even if it couldn't be brought back to flyable condition.

[@pheels]

I google the wreck and it looks like rear section of the plane is broken but there doesnt seem to be much corrosion if any so bringing the plane up will provide a source of spare parts for the two that are flying or possibly a third to be restored

[@pheels]

@@alexandramarberry1023 There are only two flying and the history that was lost will be more than compensated by the history gained by giving more people the opportunity to see and feel a real world war 2 era plane. How many divers are allowed access to the wreck?

[@pechorin1975]

@@pheels There are like 22 non-flying examples on display around the country, in addition to the two flying. I don't see the point pulling this thing off the bottom of a lake.

[@moabman6803]

You would need a barge with a winch, a couple divers, and about 2 or 3 days to get the straps underneath it. Then it would take a day or so to winch it up. Probably be cheaper to have divers unbolt the wings and bring it up without wings, then bring the wings up individually. Seems pretty easy to me.

[@pheels]

@@pechorin1975 do you know anyone who is making spare parts for B29 bombers?

[@RobertEHunt-dv9sq]

Now is the right time to recover this engineering relic since the water levels are dropping. This aircraft should be preserved. Leaving it to rot is a real tragedy.

[@greggisett9277]

Our Natl. Park Service is before anything else, a government run, taxpayer funded entity with actual preservation very low on the list of priorities. They will dive to the aircraft once a year for the purpose of "monitoring" the advancement of deterioration. At some point, a ranger will address a group of tourists by starting out "... once upon a time, there was a bomber airplane that used to sit at the bottom of this lake. You can see photos of it over there on that wall."

[@scott729]

.... what makes you think it is going to rot? This plane has been under water for 3/4 of a century and is in pretty darn good condition. I think it is fine

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

@@scott729 Unfortunately not. The environment in terms of temperature, light, plant and aquatic life, etc was quite different when it sat for decades at roughly 200'. But today's it's at roughly half that depth, and the temperature and marine/plant life is taking a toll on the structure.

[@Johnfisher12345]

@scott729 All metal corrodes under water. Fresh water means it takes longer than salt water, but that doesn’t stop it.

[@hondasuzuki17t]

With lake mead drying out right now, that B 29 can be raised. It is still very sad this lake is drying out.

[@rcbif101]

"No way to remove the quaggas or keep the quaggas from growing on the plane" - Uh, how about let someone salvage the aircraft instead of the park service hoarding the wreck till it wastes away to complete uselessness.

[@DesertTripper]

That's also not the thing you want to hear when you're paying a $16 per vessel "Quagga Mussel Tax" that is ostensibly combating the mussel problem.

[@rodeye2]

I agree 100%

[@LoneWolf051]

currently, the aircraft is in good enough shape to be restored back to flying condition....too bad for the plane the national park service doesnt believe in saving it...just using it to make quick cash on from guided tourist dives......sad

[@KRDecade2009]

Kevin Collver well I think they want to restore it for flying condition since there’s about one flyable b-29 left in the world. But they lack the funding and you’d have to replace the entire frame, electronics, avionics, hydraulics, etc. and no one makes the parts for the engines anymore or the plane so they would have to go to Boeing and basically contract them to make them a new b-29.

[@LoneWolf051]

@@KRDecade2009 well they're are two 29s flying right now, and restorations like these are all through scavenging parts, Boeing no longer has the ability to fabricate parts for aircraft this old

[@dominicguerrero6080]

This'll be helpful for the upcoming battle for the dam between the NCR and Cesar's Legion. Little did they know I'm going to fight for Vegas' Independence

[@ncrranger2526]

Dutch Van Der Linde do you have a PLAN to get it out of the lake?

[@ayeuplink1428]

Just one more plane Arthur

[@wewuzvikangz4829]

Come on dutch I need you to have some GODDAMN FAITH in Caeser, house is a corrupt industrialist and the NCR is weak, trust the PLAN

[@dominicguerrero6080]

@@ncrranger2526 just have faith son

[@char_barz4037]

Yes ......absolutely yea

[@trycoldman2358]

*The Boomers liked that*

[@IamDogge]

trycoldman23 why are you everywhere dude?! Edit: idk if this was supposed to be angry but I’m a fan of his channel now

[@jacextreme6432]

Yep

[@screwg9127]

Boomers: Fame gained

[@BobbyTucker]

@James Eger "Gen z"?

[@bigdog517]

@Sandman Huffmaster I laughed pretty hard at that haha

[@slavabtomat]

The way water is being siphoned from lake meade, and with the lack of new water filling it back up, we may at some point be able to walk across a dry lake bed and touch the wreck directly.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Nope

[@UmbrellaWatch]

You guys all had me at Cazadores.. Damn pesky. I just raised the damn thing myself. hahahah love it!

[@patprice2953]

If they actually want to "preserve" it they should allow it's removal from the lake before it gets to the point where it's no longer a viable airframe. These are a rare plane and should be restored.

[@m4sherman926]

No the boomers will need it in 200 years

[@Megu_Megumin]

@@m4sherman926 nah they can get fifi

[@m4sherman926]

@@Megu_Megumin FiFi was destroyed in 2077 by the Chinese communists.

[@Megu_Megumin]

@@m4sherman926 NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Eskimo_iio]

Why waste tax payers dollars to dig up a plane in a very difficult location when there still over 20 restored? It's been down there long enough that it has become part of nature. Leaving it be and letting nature run its course is the best choice.

[@IC3XR]

I volunteer to attach airbags

[@Mr.Freshies]

I will go with you

[@duglife2230]

Make sure to equip Loyal's detonator.

[@g36c.]

Second battle of hoover dam intensifies

[@nigwardtesticles8004]

Hey! with the lake drying up, you won’t need a re-breather to recover it loyal will be so happy

[@spiritofthewarriors6225]

It may belong in the lake but it deserves to fly once again once it's rebuilt. I really hope they'll bring it back to life someday not sure how many has survived over the years and there's only two remaining B-29 that's still flys, Fifi and Doc.

[@mikaelaincase2157]

It’s ok in 200 years or so a courier for the Mojave express will put two ballast tanks under the wings and the lady will perfectly float to the top with every piece still attached miraculously like it were a static object in a video game

[@Jay_Force_One]

You know how ridiculous that sounds. Even if you somehow Managed to retrieve it from the lake, which would be no simple task (if even possible), you would still have an aircraft that has been under 400 feet of water for 75 years. It’s not repairable. It will never fly again.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Jay Force is correct. I really have no idea why so many people seem to think a plane can sit under water for 75 years and still be salvageable. And before you bring up Glacier Girl, may I remind you that plane was frozen in ice, not liquid water. The amount of corrosion in that environment is minimal by comparison.

[@paulgrimm7842]

They will fly it out when Mead drys up

[@chuyitochuyin5894]

Paul Grimm ok that’s fucken hilarious since I live in Vegas 😂😂

[@Chuked]

And the boomers will use it in the battle of Hoover dam

[@lookronjon]

When it hit the water in the engine fell off. And it went up about 100 feet stalled and came down it bent the whole plane it’s fubar. I know this because the woman that did the report gave me a copy. My wife works at the office. She takes the photographs sometimes.

[@Chuked]

@@lookronjon fallout new vegas

[@Chuked]

That’s actually something that could happen in the next 100 yrs

[@minirunt]

I am prior Air Force and remember when a private company first found the B29. The park service was not sure if the Air Force still or who had dips on the sight. The National Park Service and the Air Force had basically just forgot about the B-29. It was not until the lake level started to decrease and improved sonar technology that this company found the B-29. In years past, when an aircraft crashed in hard to reach areas, the Air Force (in addition to commercial airlines, would maybe pick up the biggest parts, for purpose of evaluating cause of crash. There are many sights in isolated Nevada mountain tops or isolated areas where crashes can still be found. For example, the 1955 CIA C54 aircraft carsh sight on nearby Mt. Charleston or the 1942 TWA crash on nearby Mt. Potosi that killed Carole Lombard. Parts of those planes can still be found today.

[@m20j_pilot48]

@Richard C // A friend and I hiked up to the crash site of Carole Lombards' DC-3 in the late 90's. Not much left except the landing gear assemblies and scattered bits and pieces of metal, wire, etc.

[@evangalinsky2499]

It wasn't a private company that found it, it was a private citizen, Melanie Grites.

[@bogingathedolphinking2802]

@@evangalinsky2499 Do you have source?

[@jim-me9wm]

How are you preserving it if it's degrading?

[@connecticutairspacecenter2484]

@Sparks There is a big difference from letting this B-29 stay underwater and let it be eaten away by muscles, and recovering the airframe and letting a museum restore it to static condition.

[@Eskimo_iio]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 There's over 20 on display. Go look at those.

[@Gotobar]

@@Eskimo_iio 21 is better than 20.

[@coloradostrong]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 "eaten away by muscles" 😂 🤣 🙄 🙄 _Mussels_ not "muscles" 🙄

[@MuskratOutdoors]

I grew up there. We left in 1979. Been all over that lake fishing many, many times.......but never knew about this until right now.

[@Bockscar76]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@anonomuse9094]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@hoticewater92]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@RuralTowner]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@nippsy7106]

NO SHUT UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAUHHG

[@vtk7763]

We won't go quietly. The Legion can count on that.

[@CHUUMPASS]

I had to reassure myself that they were in fact talking about 1948, as the research described sounds quite advanced that it seems much more recent. Mind blowing what they actually were researching engineering and developing back then already. Imagine what must be going on today in our time. And so, even if unintented, the B-29 still serves the purpose of research, albeit in a very different manner though. Thank God that the crew members all survived.

[@Hukron]

Holy shit it's real

[@logicwurx]

Well of course it’s real.

[@toasterhavingabath6980]

@@logicwurx Fallout new Vegas

[@b226tj]

You didn't know?

[@sirswerve2493]

Brang it up and restore it. Come on rich people. FiFI and Doc need a friend to fly with....

[@thegamingrhino5864]

oh yes

[@dogfightdixon4415]

Speak brother!

[@RaoulThomas007]

They would have to rename it for static display or airworthiness- Maybe, *”I’m in Meade,”* with a picture of a provocative muscle!

[@whodahellru8124]

No kidding! Patch it up, cover the holes and let’s get a few tons of helium filled ping pong balls in that thing!

[@_EllieLOL_]

FiFi, Doc, and Lady Of The Lake

[@keithnoneya]

It's such a shame that this great aircraft will be left to rot at the bottom of Lake Mead instead of being sold off or raised and restored for all generations to enjoy instead of a only a select few wealthy people who are the only ones who can afford to dive on it. It could be sold off to a aircraft restoration company and restored, and depending on the condition flown or put on static display at the park. But nope the Park Service wants it to rot on the bottom of the lake, what a shame. Thanks for sharing the aircraft in video with us anyways. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@WAL_DC-6B]

Considering that there is a fair amount of B-29s surviving in museums (two still flying), the damage to this aircraft (loss of engines, etc.,) and the amount of work to bring it to the surface intact, I doubt anyone would want to go through the difficulty and enormous expense to salvage it. Perhaps after the lake entirely dries up!

[@noctellauwu]

Have they tried using ballasts? Lloyd should have some.

[@derekheuring4646]

Since no lives were lost in the crash of this B-29 it's not a 'war grave' controversy if it's raised. Bring it up, restore it to static display and let people see it. Years ago a tiny privately-owned museum in Canada raised a WWII Handley Page Hampden bomber from the ocean floor off Pat Bay on Vancouver Island and restored it for display at Langley Airport in British Columbia, Canada. If a small volunteer unit from a tiny museum can do that, then it shouldn't be beyond the resources of our Federal government to raise this ac, should it?

[@olliegoria]

No point. It's likely too fragile to move now, and its decay is only accelerating with all the quagga mussels infesting it. It's like the Titanic, we should enjoy it while we still have it and consider ourselves lucky we lived at a time we could see it.

[@hubriswonk]

There are a dozen of these on static display.........not worth the cash.

[@powerbongo922]

@@hubriswonk is it really about the money?

[@Salzmann_69]

its the us government... A person with no arms or legs and is brain dead is more capable

[@mollycaz1]

They should raise it and restore it where people can enjoy this piece of history. Do not let die on the bottom of the lake

[@timmanboy1]

Restorations are impossible now. The last one that was Restorable. Flew in 2016

[@connecticutairspacecenter2484]

@@timmanboy1 They are not impossible. Multiple B-17s are currently being restored from basically nothing. This B-29 could be restored at least to stock static condition.

[@timmanboy1]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 static display would be improvement. But the park service won't let that happen.

[@BobbyTucker]

Amazing, I lived in Las Vegas 35 years and never knew about this 'Landmark', however, I did hear about another plane crash, I've been told it was 1973, that's another story for another place and time. Thank's for sharing this video.

[@theronerd]

So when can I walk out and see it?

[@theshumanat0r537]

Underrated

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

Few more months to a year, tops

[@courtneyhall7140]

the government will spend millions monotoring it when the could bring it up for much less.our tax dollars a work.idoits.

[@windshearahead7012]

Nobody Knows that’s not even deep water lmfao, it’s only 200 feet...the sunlight reaches it

[@doninventura9474]

What a waste of money. Allow it to be salvaged, or forget about it. If you want to tout it as a diver's interest is one thing, but it holds NO value as a sunken relic.

[@StarryNightMachinima]

The government needs some way to piss away money.

[@bowmanzz1]

I agree. what the fuck are they doing with it? oh you need a permit to dive on it, Oh we want to preserve it, Oh the Cogaga mussles are wearing it away...oohhhhhh booowhoooo. just raise it and scrap it. damn

[@granttgmwendlrestorations8760]

@@bowmanzz1 raise it and rebuild it or put it in a muesam

[@racoonfallingfrom10storybl11]

@@bowmanzz1 Don't forget "Permits" cause jobs. Let it lay as-is, where-is, its not causing problems or harming anything. DO NOT SPEND TAX- MONEY NEEDLESSLY.

[@philippkuhlmeyer9760]

...and now it’s waiting there.. to be restored for the second battle of hoover dam

[@swaggermaster1156]

The amount of fallout references is unbelievable. I love my fandom

[@BrandonMitchell84]

is thing above water now that there is hardly any water left at lake mead ?

[@sliccricc1654]

*Johnny guitar kicks in* -You take a trusty sip from your vault 13 canteen

[@oldcremona]

09:17 "For future generations to come..." How about just saying "for future generations."

[@torchandhammer]

"For future generations to come going forward".

[@connormclernon26]

Old Cremona you mean the Boomers right?

[@Chuked]

Loyal, Jack, Raquel, Pearl, etc every boomer

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

Doesn’t seem like protecting it if you let muscles literally corrode the plane

[@timbarnes2259]

That is why the Dambuster Lancasters had two spot lights calibrated for level flight at 100ft above the water..

[@unitedwestand420]

At this rate we should be able to walk over to that plane in the next few years

[@Johnfisher12345]

Nope

[@zacharyburden3059]

“Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter”

[@floo1465]

We won’t go quietly, the Legion can count on that.

[@asian_slav1851]

Ad victoriam.

[@dereklaw5612]

I AGREE THEY SHOULD RAISE THE PLANE AND RESTORE HER TO GLORY BUT WHO WILL DO IT

[@rcbif101]

It could easily be raised with volunteers and crowd funding. Even if it were cleaned up and put on display as is, it would make a great museum piece. Millions could see it in Vegas. But nope. The Park Service will hoard it till it crumbles to bits.

[@dr.mobius3777]

I'm sure the boomers will give it a shot

[@MegaMarcin98]

maybe get the courier to help

[@hirokatsuvictor8755]

One man and two ballasts will do the trick.

[@michaelandrew4488]

The USAF - they have slurged enough money on other things - funnel some funds to this project and get what apprentices they have left in the service do the manual work.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

Oh great the plane was a great assistance at the second battle of Hoover Dam also the Re-breather for lifting the Plane was pretty neat xD

[@gamepad3173]

yeah it really came in handy, the Legion is practically screwed since they are going up against the NCR, Brotherhood, and Enclave. though if I were do that I would first travel to Cottonwood cove and slaughter the legion there before linking up with the NCR.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

@@gamepad3173 thats the way, NCR Brother!

[@BCaldwell]

A few more weeks and you'll be able to walk right out to it....

[@fluffyx1556]

off topic but, anyone wonder what it would be like to slide down the hoover dam off a ramp into the water?

[@JDAbelRN]

Yes, it would be like jumping off a 750foot office building and landing on a cement street. Unless you succumb to a heart attack during the 8.2 second fall.

[@fluffyx1556]

@@JDAbelRN you make it sound like jumping off a diving board is like jumping down the stairs. I'm talking like one of the big ass slides you see those really fat people going down

[@tokus64]

Today you can watch the plane from the shore. When your planning to visit lake Mead, bring water.

[@jeffhammond4842]

Classic government operation, monitoring the degradation of a wrecked plane as if they are performing an actual useful act.

[@gvet47]

I thought that was funny too. Just a place a few sekected people can view for fun The aluminum was mentioned but the superstructure is wood so it would just crumble now. My dad was a navigator on a B29 and flew 32 missions in the Pacific and the bombing of Japan. He even was on low level flights to drop mines in the Japanese waters for the Navy!

[@shakey2634]

So… when originally located it was in 280 feet of water. Later, as the Park Ranger said, it was in 200 feet of water. That report is several years old. I wonder how deep the water is now? As more light and oxygen get to it, along with warmer water temps, the speed of decomposition will only increase. They could raise it, but to what end?

[@Intentsrig]

Also curious what depth it is at now

[@tbugher62]

Less then 80 ft.

[@frankboi3099]

I went there once to raise the B-29. Somehow the NCR didn't attack me.

[@StephenFinkNRP]

Is it still submerged in 2022? From the videos I have seen the lake is almost gone.

[@Erik-rp1hi]

I have friends that have dove Truk Lagoon multiple times over the years and they say the wrecks are rusting away to nothing very fast.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ Erik 567 Everything left in situ is going to rot away. You can't save aircraft by letting them rot in place.

[@xara505]

We won't go quietly. The Legion can count on that.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

It’s a pity that it wasn’t raised before the quaggas got hold of it and completely covered it

[@oscarp9336]

So how long before it emerges due to the droughts and the dropping water levels??

[@CHICO976]

I know I am picky but the "Stick" you mentioned is really called a "yoke"

[@samsonsees]

Recover her and preserve her. I hate the scripting and there were more than 3 doing high altitude testing.

[@firepower7017]

Sam Sees Here is what most B-29s ended up, being test targets kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4KXlHd8hZV2h80

[@lancereagan3046]

Will this re-emerge with the lake level dropping?

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

@@ManMountainMetals its still possibly in 100ft of water. These planes are massive but it may not surface unless something seriously changes for the worst. Cuzz the damn will eventually stop producing power so they will shut off the spillways and reduce the amount that goes down the river from the dam to maybe nothing. Not sure honestly but i cant imagine it will drop to being 20ft in that area which is when the tail would be visible

[@V8Deuce]

If they really cared about this historically significant aircraft they would take it out of the lake and place it at an air museum.

[@josh661]

Honestly I think this thing should be sitting in a Museum not far from where it crashed or something. It looks like it’s in great condition given what it’s been through and how long it’s been sitting. More people would be able to see it that way

[@cstodd4363]

Jump to 4:38 to see the underwater photos of the plane.

[@Laxpowertoo]

Preserving it for the nation, whilst the nation watches it rot away.

[@yellowprime8491]

Looking forward to its eventual raising in 2281 by the "The Courier".

[@sigsauerp2391]

I wish the u.s. forest service would quit wasting us taxpayers money I'm diving once a year to go check on a rotting plane and if you can't do anything about the evasive muscles then why do you keep doing studies on it just to waste more taxpayers money I work for the forest service I know how it works

[@zandergrier1302]

Wow, I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or just kind of dumb. For one thing, it's the U.S. National Park Service, not the Forest Service, not just because they said so, but because the plane's UNDERWATER. A lake is not a forest. They're performing their tests to gather information that could be useful in the future, and to see if the mussels are damaging the plane, and if so, how to get rid of them. Just because you can't remove a problem doesn't mean you shouldn't study it. It's no more of a waste of taxpayers' money than Apple coming out with the iPhone 13 or whatever the hell they're up to now. I mean really, what we have right now is fine; just wait for a few years before stealing more money from people who don't know better. And by the way, I seriously doubt that you work for the Forest Service if you don't know the difference between invasive mussels and evasive muscles.

[@robertmcgee141]

@@zandergrier1302 he's right, and what's apple have to do with this? A private company.

[@oscaris1ru12]

invasive? think about all the indigent wildlife in the area!

[@bryanhauschild4376]

Jason Mr595 I couldn’t agree with you more.

[@tbugher62]

Forrest service is a complete joke

[@rollingthunder277]

This video was posted mid-2018. Lake Mead, and according to all media accounts has had it's volume reduced substantially finding wrecks of cars and boats. Now, 4 years later, if it was 200 feet submerged over 4 years ago then soon one will be able to see the vertical stabilizer by now since with the gear extended, the tails is almost 30 feet high.

[@sinnedsinister]

I have a question for the NPS. I use to be a local of the area, and in 2006/7 I planned a dive to the Sunsetter B-17 in the lake. At that time I was told it was a permitted dive, so I cancelled my plans. With the lake dropping to extreme levels, I am wondering the current depth of the site. It is not for a planned dive, but a curiosity of how much the lake has dropped. I love the lake and have fished it and stayed in it more times than I can count. Owning land in Arizona the lake has been my favorite spot to relax and unwind. But I keep hearing alarming stories from other locals about the drop of water level. I am wondering if a sounding can be performed at the sight as to it's current depth and nothing more. I simply don't, and hope, that a cherished icon of the lake, is not in danger of exposure. Thank you

[@supersayinone]

I’ve been looking for comments on that I heard the lake is so low that people struggle to even get a boat in the lake at the boat launch

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

From what I gather from a local dive company, they're seeing the depth at under 100' now. But since the NPS controls it, they still have all the crazy hoops of a "technical" dive, gas-certs, etc. Which is crazy.... I've done a ton of dives to 100' in lakes on standard tanks and decomp procedures.

[@sinnedsinister]

@@5thGenNativeTexan me as well, when I could dive. I was going to use a re-breather on the dive, but the hopes to jump through for permits was ridiculous, so I postponed the dive, which turned out to be indefinitely.

[@easypete4487]

Ya'll guys know where I left my rebreather..?

[@fckgooogle1000x]

How hard can it be? Just light them and throw

[@TheLenaweeTrekker]

What about the potential to damage the underwater environment when the engines or fuel tanks begin leaking? Wouldn't getting that B-29 out of the lake make more sense as it is the area's main freshwater supply?

[@OldsmobileCutlass1969Va]

Nah... The plane is perfectly safe... But drip 1 drop of used motor oil near a sewer drain and EPA will be knocking on your door!

[@JoshuaTootell]

All the fuel and oil would have been displaced a long time ago. There is no fuel or oil in there.

[@cplcabs]

The oil leaking from the USS Arizona doesn't seem to bother people so why should it bother them about a planes fuel

[@DanaTheInsane]

@@cplcabs It will when the structure collapses and it all comes out at once. Then the finger pointing and blaming will begin in earnest.

[@kj4ilk]

Anybody else here because of Fallout New Vegas

[@jacextreme6432]

Yep

[@brodystumpf4689]

Yup.

[@kj4ilk]

Yes

[@Drottoman_]

Yes man

[@desertranger1095]

With lake mead drying up I wonder if we will see it out of water again.

[@CarlosPerdomo]

So what would happen now that the lake is drying???

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ Carlos Perdomo The plane is property of the US Park Service. They could leave it or pull it out for a museum. I have doubts they would give it up for a restoration project. The water chemistry and oxygen content could change, and the plane may deteriorate very fast.

[@CarlosPerdomo]

@@FiveCentsPlease, yea. I just wonder because the water levels at lake Mede are going down so fast and exposing everything that was submerged before.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

@@CarlosPerdomo I get the impression that the Park Service views the plane as part of the ecosystem to study. No, it's a plane that fell into the lake just like all of the sunken boats, trash, and barrels. It should all be cleaned up and the plane removed and preserved in a museum or traded to a restoration expert for something of value to the park.

[@CarlosPerdomo]

@@FiveCentsPlease, yep.

[@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine]

What the National Park Service actually means by preservation is "we'll let it rot down there where only rich people can pay to see it".

[@someguy332]

I’d rase it and if not make it flying condition at least put it in a hanger some where close to the lake for all to enjoy. If only a few can see it what good is it doing at the bottom.

[@donniemontoya9300]

I'm sure the boomers could find a use for it

[@rkelsey3341]

you hang clothes on hangers, and put airplanes in hangars. get it right.

[@someguy332]

R Kelsey thank you

[@sandlmv8301]

That's an amazing site and it's great that the valuable parts in the cockpit especially haven't been stolen off it. The guns would be extremely valuable too I imagine. It needs to be floated and placed into a museum.

[@blogengeezer4507]

'guns'.. removed. This was converted to a flying test bed for optical equipment, no longer doing battle, as in the previous existence. ;}

[@jimmiecurtsinger9991]

Leave it where it is and it will end up in the same shape as the Titanic future generations will not be able to see it, but only in pictures and someone will say I THINK A B-29 CRASHED INTO LAKE MEAD IN 1948 BUT THERE IS NOTHING LEFT OF IT. RAISE IT CLEAN IT UP AND PUT IT IN A LAKE MEAD MUSEUM....

[@phantomknightencounterist]

Anybody got two ballast tanks and a rebreather ? I have an idea

[@squirrel300zx]

give it a few days and we will be able to WALK out to it.

[@stuart8663]

This a video full of BuzzWord bingo. Every current corporate PC word or phrase imaginable has been used. That's 10 minutes of my life I wont get back. Here's the short summary: Nothings's happening.

[@TheDeJureTour]

Did ya happen to catch that "People" built Hoover Dam? No fuckwads, it was MEN, yes, real red-blooded American MEN that built Hoover Dam.

[@justinowens2077]

Mr.Clem are men not people?

[@Yoder190]

Stu Art Literally no one cares

[@diothethotslayer1451]

I'm just here because this was in a video game and I didint think it was real until I saw a post on Reddit

[@BlueAustinMaxi]

I love how people are making fallout new Vegas references

[@dirkvanhaperen]

It breaks my heart to see it just laying on the bottum of that lake. It should be restored to working conditions so everybody can enjoy it and see how beautyfull it used to be. I know for a fact that it would have a better life when it is restored. If there is an way to resceu this beast from that lake please let me know. A B29 shouldn't be on the bottem of a lake, it should be in the air where it belongs.

[@Guovssohas]

I wonder how deep it's there now that the lake is very low? About 150 feet?

[@myc0ckisstinkyafteranal569]

Is it on dry ground now? I bet it will be soon if not already!

[@CDS.26]

That plane is probably pretty close to the surface at this point.

[@klayed]

it alrdy is kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLdqmtufs6Jp7c they have many videos of it

[@Johnfisher12345]

Nope