The Lake Mead B-29

On July 21, 1948, a modified B-29 Superfortress engaged in high-altitude atmospheric research crashed into Lake Mead. When the plane hit the lake, three of the four engines tore off. The five-member crew survived. The plane has remained in the depths of the lake for 70 years.
The Air Force initially recommended the plane for salvage, but that recommendation was canceled. As an agency dedicated to the preservation of America’s resources, the National Park Service serves as the custodian of the Lake Mead B-29.

[@EAFTL]

I don't understand why they don't raise the bomber when it's such an easy task. They only need to find someone who goes to the bank of Lake Mead while carefully avoiding Cazadors and Lakelurks nearby, puts a rebreather on, swims to middle of the lake, puts 2 ballsts under the wings, swims back and pushes a button to fill the ballasts with air. It's really not that hard. He can even take a rest at Camp Golf afterwards if he's still on good terms with the NCR. 😥

[@asian_slav1851]

Not gonna lie, You got us in the first half.

[@adonutlol1697]

He should be taking a rest in The Fort, like a real chad.

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

I knew it!

[@wolfingaround5888]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@pyro7358]

What are you talking about lol

[@voltathan2067]

This will come in handy durring the second battle of Hoover Dam...

[@pillgrimm]

Ok boomer

[@voltathan2067]

donutdoode69 Fallout new Vegas reference

[@voltathan2067]

donutdoode69 The entire comment section is new vegas references. Just because you don't play it doesn't mean "no one" does.

[@_u0nda928]

@@voltathan2067 Lmfao he likes his own comments.

[@MrHouse-tz6is]

Scarlett Lulls ok boomer...

[@thanos6346]

“Crashing a B-29 into Lake Mead almost makes you wish for a pair of deployable ballast tanks…”

[@Chronosmaster002]

Patrolling the Mojave Almost Makes You Wish For a Nuclear Winter

[@easypete1014]

"Was a prospector until I decided to settle here to get away from the NCR. Now I just take it easy and help out with the Brahmin and Bighorners."

[@MajorT0m]

Later!

[@littlepip0025]

What a feat those divers have accomplished, I couldn't get past all those Lakelurks like they clearly could.

[@0pt1m1sm]

I only found 2 when I went threre

[@znixia]

I accidently made the NCR guards mad now every time I go there I have to bring my guass rifle

[@rrrrrrr9859]

Arcade kept getting stuck on the scavenger barge thing

[@dannyengineer9862]

Did you find this in your recommended too?

[@0pt1m1sm]

@@dannyengineer9862 yea

[@drgabe2908]

*Big iron starts playing*

[@jmanthackdaddy]

Big Iron on his hiiiippppp

[@ayeuplink1428]

I was looking for this comment

[@brucehc4975]

*COMMIE DETECTED*

[@jameswhoneedstoknow5148]

I heard it 3 times in a row one time

[@rileykortemusic]

Boomers 😂

[@maskey4675]

And so the Courier who had cheated death in the cemetery outside Goodsprings, cheated death once again, and the Mojave Wasteland was forever changed.

[@Chuked]

After the battle of Hoover Dam the Legion took over much of New Vegas and peacefully lorded over the rest, Caesar entered the strip as though it was his triumph

[@gosia21188]

The Legion pushed the NCR out of New Vegas entirely, driving them back to the Mojave Outpost. Under the Legion's banner, civilization - unforgiving as it was - finally came to the Mojave Wasteland

[@mrnigz746]

The Courier with the aid of Yes man drove out the NCR and the legion from the region

[@WUZLE]

The New California Republic celebrated its second victory at Hoover Dam, establishing definitive control over the entire Mojave Wasteland. Soon after, they negotiated terms to annex The Strip, Freeside, and many surrounding communities. The Mojave Wasteland, at long last, had entirely fallen under the NCR's banner.

[@stootsmcgoots]

War....war never changes

[@unclelarryboy1608]

"we're preserving it by watching the mussels eat away at it." Your park service philosophy at its best.

[@fsj197811]

Yep goes right along with letting the forests burn rather than cleaning them up. Lovely.

[@JackAndP]

Damn what mod are they using. Fallout New Vegas looks so realistic in this video.

[@tangyorange6509]

National Park Service looking at comments: “WHAT DO THEY MEAN THE BATTLE OF THE DAM? WHOS THE BOOMERS!? WHY 200 YEARS?!??

[@therealdiamondcat3246]

In 1 year 0 replies For a very good comment

[@murci981]

Omg they dont know the truth dont spoil it for them 😂

[@theoneandonlydogmeat9708]

THAT IS if its still there!

[@Chuked]

they’ve really never played it have they?

[@Chuked]

@Ezra Olivarez FALLOUT NEW VEGAS FACTION GO PLAY IT

[@210Caveman26]

*Quest Added: VOLARE!*

[@themightyranger6321]

*help the boomers around nellis*

[@hachipanki8634]

This mission was a nightmare for me xD

[@Chuked]

@@hachipanki8634 nah, just have high Science! before doing it and get the solar parts from Helios and the solar array will give you like 40% of the affinity points u need with the boomers

[@connorkenway3654]

Having thalassophobia and raising the b-29 is a nightmare for me

[@biaggiwins]

For those asking to raise it, a few more years it will be on dry ground. You'll be able to walk to it.

[@hermos3602]

No, it'll still be underwater in 2281.

[@sergeantheavyass3471]

@Michael's Productions he was making a joke anout fallout new vegas

[@sergeantheavyass3471]

@Michael's Productions yes but the person you responded to was making a reference to it as its set in 2281 and the bomber still sits at the bottom of the lake

[@sergeantheavyass3471]

@Michael's Productions bruh

[@levy1294]

@@sergeantheavyass3471 💀

[@slavabtomat]

The way water is being siphoned from lake meade, and with the lack of new water filling it back up, we may at some point be able to walk across a dry lake bed and touch the wreck directly.

[@PTANV-x2g]

Nope

[@kaiishere016]

It must be hard for the divers to get there with all the lakelurks

[@nigwardtesticles8004]

Must’ve used a stealth boy

[@lord_vader6545]

Stealth boys brother

[@buixrule]

What the hell is a lakelurk? I've never heard of that term.

[@jamesvasel8941]

I saw this story in a video game called Fallout New Vegas. They did some nice research on that game. Obviously, from the comments before I'm not the first one to recognize that. Much respect to all Fallout Fans.

[@dominicguerrero6080]

Yes son, all I need is for you to have some faith

[@thatssofetch3481]

Andrew Milton red dead kinda sucks

[@aames1089]

That’s So Fetch! It kinda doesn’t.....at all

[@iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929]

I just thought that it was something that they added in, I had no idea that it was a real thing!

[@madtrucker0983]

Surprising how far animatronics have come over the years. That ranger almost looks real. They animated her hands too much though.

[@natsirtboy4548]

wtf

[@andyroo3022]

Your on drugs

[@noteimportax6477]

Yeah its a cherry 1999 old ugly model

[@madtrucker0983]

@@noteimportax6477 🤣 You're reaching way back now

[@noteimportax6477]

@@madtrucker0983 😂

[@Zekesaxman]

I wish I could thank you enough for the digital archive of this aircraft. I love that it is on national park land, so there is a very very slim chance of the plane being recovered and altered from its resting place. Hopefully we can watch this beautiful aircraft settle in for the long haul. Love this!

[@Videosnosubs]

I'll see you in a couple hundred years, my Lady of the Lake

[@Nukacherry16]

Yaaasss

[@Strigon01]

I remember when it was raised from the water and assisted me in defeating Caesar's Legion at the battle of Hoover Dam. It was a glorious sight. Long live the NCR.

[@animq4ionboi.153]

ew

[@RichieGonzales_28]

Ah yes hello fellow new Vegas player

[@thekachigga9255]

Was gonna like your comment until you said “long live the ncr”

[@Strigon01]

@@thekachigga9255 >:)

[@JLuna-lf9fd]

You know ace combat franchise too? Man you're Based

[@stevenmcsindi1949]

As a child I knew it as Boulder Dam. I am 81 now. Thanks!

[@spiritofthewarriors6225]

It may belong in the lake but it deserves to fly once again once it's rebuilt. I really hope they'll bring it back to life someday not sure how many has survived over the years and there's only two remaining B-29 that's still flys, Fifi and Doc.

[@mikaelaincase2157]

It’s ok in 200 years or so a courier for the Mojave express will put two ballast tanks under the wings and the lady will perfectly float to the top with every piece still attached miraculously like it were a static object in a video game

[@Jay_Force_One]

You know how ridiculous that sounds. Even if you somehow Managed to retrieve it from the lake, which would be no simple task (if even possible), you would still have an aircraft that has been under 400 feet of water for 75 years. It’s not repairable. It will never fly again.

[@PTANV-x2g]

Jay Force is correct. I really have no idea why so many people seem to think a plane can sit under water for 75 years and still be salvageable. And before you bring up Glacier Girl, may I remind you that plane was frozen in ice, not liquid water. The amount of corrosion in that environment is minimal by comparison.

[@Jamrom23]

After loosing the last one in Greenland to a lack of a simple hand-held fire extinguisher, this one should be brought up and restored just for the sake of keeping it in a museum. It has a great back story and looks to be in fantastic shape. No one died in it, so it's not a grave. Bring it up and get in into a hanger. They don't even have to restore it, just clean off the muck and make it show worthy. Patina is in anyway.

[@danielbrooks9508]

I remember watching the Greenland B29 video and absolutely could not believe the ending. Probably the best remaining artifact from WWII and they let it burn up. I almost cried. I agree with you, sir!

[@glenkeating7333]

@@danielbrooks9508 . Same here. I watched that same video a few years ago. I couldn't believe that they didn't have a fire extinguisher on hand!

[@XXformula]

@@danielbrooks9508 I watched that PBS special when I was about 8-9 years old with my dad being completely unaware of the final outcome......I was so angry watching that thing burn to the ground I almost cried.....they were so close.

[@danielbrooks9508]

@@XXformula Yeah, the video (or documentary, as it seemed) was so interesting and it got me very excited that a perfect original B29 was returning from WWII and then all of a sudden there was a short, a small fire, and we watched it just get destroyed. When I said I about cried man I was almost 50 years old! It was horrible.

[@steves186]

That wasn't the last one. There's one in Wright Patterson Air Force Museum.

[@BAMA355NATION]

“We are preserving the wreckage.” Hmmmm....... you can’t stop the mussels from damaging the aircraft but you’re “preserving” it?!?!

[@blurglide]

Yeah....I'm guessing the only thing they're doing is patrolling to prevent souvenir hunters from picking it apart, but they're definitely not actively preventing deterioration.

[@hycron1234]

-preserving- profiting.

[@lrwado8150]

It's a ''make work'' job for the divers...gotta justify their existence somehow! How about they figure out where to attach the lift points, and make preparations to get it outta there!

[@BAMA355NATION]

Explosive Bolts They can remove the aircraft and display it in a building in the park. They could restore it then display it. They could let a private organization remove and restore it. So many options rather than “killing” the ecology.

[@BAMA355NATION]

Explosive Bolts Since you’re clearly intelligent.

[@RobertEHunt-dv9sq]

Now is the right time to recover this engineering relic since the water levels are dropping. This aircraft should be preserved. Leaving it to rot is a real tragedy.

[@greggisett9277]

Our Natl. Park Service is before anything else, a government run, taxpayer funded entity with actual preservation very low on the list of priorities. They will dive to the aircraft once a year for the purpose of "monitoring" the advancement of deterioration. At some point, a ranger will address a group of tourists by starting out "... once upon a time, there was a bomber airplane that used to sit at the bottom of this lake. You can see photos of it over there on that wall."

[@scott729]

.... what makes you think it is going to rot? This plane has been under water for 3/4 of a century and is in pretty darn good condition. I think it is fine

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

@@scott729 Unfortunately not. The environment in terms of temperature, light, plant and aquatic life, etc was quite different when it sat for decades at roughly 200'. But today's it's at roughly half that depth, and the temperature and marine/plant life is taking a toll on the structure.

[@PTANV-x2g]

@scott729 All metal corrodes under water. Fresh water means it takes longer than salt water, but that doesn’t stop it.

[@nigwardtesticles8004]

Hey! with the lake drying up, you won’t need a re-breather to recover it loyal will be so happy

[@ClaytonHartin]

In Fallout New Vegas I floated the B29 to the surface. Later on in the game the plane was fixed and flown once again.

[@FavioredValkyrie]

That needs th happn 4 real.

[@brendo4028]

Jacob Barresi it’s the internet why do you give a fuck

[@FavioredValkyrie]

@@sheilabarresi7302 instant messages do not need proper grammar because you do not speak it you text it,one number is easier to type then a three letter word and the word's you're looking for in that low vocabulary of yours are as follows,"You need to learn how to spell or not be lazy". But thankyou for showing the chat how inept you are.

[@thebes56]

I think it's on GOG now. I plan to get it but I have been just playing World of Warships for two years now.

[@user-pi4fm4ix8v]

@@thebes56 did you get it yet

[@maxboost81]

It's pretty sad they're leaving it down there to rot.. the aircraft seems to be in pretty good shape and would be a good candidate for restoration even if it couldn't be brought back to flyable condition.

[@pheels]

I google the wreck and it looks like rear section of the plane is broken but there doesnt seem to be much corrosion if any so bringing the plane up will provide a source of spare parts for the two that are flying or possibly a third to be restored

[@pheels]

@@alexandramarberry1023 There are only two flying and the history that was lost will be more than compensated by the history gained by giving more people the opportunity to see and feel a real world war 2 era plane. How many divers are allowed access to the wreck?

[@pechorin1975]

@@pheels There are like 22 non-flying examples on display around the country, in addition to the two flying. I don't see the point pulling this thing off the bottom of a lake.

[@moabman6803]

You would need a barge with a winch, a couple divers, and about 2 or 3 days to get the straps underneath it. Then it would take a day or so to winch it up. Probably be cheaper to have divers unbolt the wings and bring it up without wings, then bring the wings up individually. Seems pretty easy to me.

[@pheels]

@@pechorin1975 do you know anyone who is making spare parts for B29 bombers?

[@MuskratOutdoors]

I grew up there. We left in 1979. Been all over that lake fishing many, many times.......but never knew about this until right now.

[@easypete4487]

Ya'll guys know where I left my rebreather..?

[@fckgooogle1000x]

How hard can it be? Just light them and throw

[@Rocknranchman]

Raise it , restore it, respect it! More future generations would have more access to it (and its history) at a museum rather than 200ft on the floor of Lake Mead! I mean come on!

[@minnesotangaming8966]

Rocknranchman especially since there’s only 3 left that we know of that are restored

[@brendenpavao2071]

@@minnesotangaming8966 There are 22 of them that are restored or preserved, and there are two that are still flying. One of them just finished restoration in 2016.

[@minnesotangaming8966]

Brenden Pavao restored fully... as in working order

[@cambellschunky704]

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think current or future generations would give a damn about it.

[@brendenpavao2071]

@@minnesotangaming8966 There are two that are flying, and there will likely only ever be two of them flying, as sad as it is to say. There aren't many people or foundations out there willing to spend the money to keep one airworthy. There could have been three had Darryl Greenamyer not attempted to fly Kee Bird with fuel secured improperly near the APU.

[@dominicguerrero6080]

This'll be helpful for the upcoming battle for the dam between the NCR and Cesar's Legion. Little did they know I'm going to fight for Vegas' Independence

[@ncrranger2526]

Dutch Van Der Linde do you have a PLAN to get it out of the lake?

[@ayeuplink1428]

Just one more plane Arthur

[@wewuzvikangz4829]

Come on dutch I need you to have some GODDAMN FAITH in Caeser, house is a corrupt industrialist and the NCR is weak, trust the PLAN

[@dominicguerrero6080]

@@ncrranger2526 just have faith son

[@char_barz4037]

Yes ......absolutely yea

[@AutumnThe_Toaster]

That is remarkable that it's so well preserved wow

[@Farmdude07]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@anonomuse9094]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@kaikonghotel1]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@RuralTowner]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@nippsy7106]

NO SHUT UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAUHHG

[@vtk7763]

We won't go quietly. The Legion can count on that.

[@g36c.]

Second battle of hoover dam intensifies

[@rcbif101]

"No way to remove the quaggas or keep the quaggas from growing on the plane" - Uh, how about let someone salvage the aircraft instead of the park service hoarding the wreck till it wastes away to complete uselessness.

[@DesertTripper]

That's also not the thing you want to hear when you're paying a $16 per vessel "Quagga Mussel Tax" that is ostensibly combating the mussel problem.

[@rodeye2]

I agree 100%

[@LoneWolf051]

currently, the aircraft is in good enough shape to be restored back to flying condition....too bad for the plane the national park service doesnt believe in saving it...just using it to make quick cash on from guided tourist dives......sad

[@KRDecade2009]

Kevin Collver well I think they want to restore it for flying condition since there’s about one flyable b-29 left in the world. But they lack the funding and you’d have to replace the entire frame, electronics, avionics, hydraulics, etc. and no one makes the parts for the engines anymore or the plane so they would have to go to Boeing and basically contract them to make them a new b-29.

[@LoneWolf051]

@@KRDecade2009 well they're are two 29s flying right now, and restorations like these are all through scavenging parts, Boeing no longer has the ability to fabricate parts for aircraft this old

[@Erik-rp1hi]

I have friends that have dove Truk Lagoon multiple times over the years and they say the wrecks are rusting away to nothing very fast.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ Erik 567 Everything left in situ is going to rot away. You can't save aircraft by letting them rot in place.

[@timbarnes2259]

That is why the Dambuster Lancasters had two spot lights calibrated for level flight at 100ft above the water..

[@IC3XR]

I volunteer to attach airbags

[@wolfingaround5888]

I will go with you

[@duglife2230]

Make sure to equip Loyal's detonator.

[@paulgrimm7842]

They will fly it out when Mead drys up

[@chuyitochuyin5894]

Paul Grimm ok that’s fucken hilarious since I live in Vegas 😂😂

[@Chuked]

And the boomers will use it in the battle of Hoover dam

[@lookronjon]

When it hit the water in the engine fell off. And it went up about 100 feet stalled and came down it bent the whole plane it’s fubar. I know this because the woman that did the report gave me a copy. My wife works at the office. She takes the photographs sometimes.

[@Chuked]

@@lookronjon fallout new vegas

[@Chuked]

That’s actually something that could happen in the next 100 yrs

[@UmbrellaWatch]

You guys all had me at Cazadores.. Damn pesky. I just raised the damn thing myself. hahahah love it!

[@rollingthunder277]

This video was posted mid-2018. Lake Mead, and according to all media accounts has had it's volume reduced substantially finding wrecks of cars and boats. Now, 4 years later, if it was 200 feet submerged over 4 years ago then soon one will be able to see the vertical stabilizer by now since with the gear extended, the tails is almost 30 feet high.

[@minirunt]

I am prior Air Force and remember when a private company first found the B29. The park service was not sure if the Air Force still or who had dips on the sight. The National Park Service and the Air Force had basically just forgot about the B-29. It was not until the lake level started to decrease and improved sonar technology that this company found the B-29. In years past, when an aircraft crashed in hard to reach areas, the Air Force (in addition to commercial airlines, would maybe pick up the biggest parts, for purpose of evaluating cause of crash. There are many sights in isolated Nevada mountain tops or isolated areas where crashes can still be found. For example, the 1955 CIA C54 aircraft carsh sight on nearby Mt. Charleston or the 1942 TWA crash on nearby Mt. Potosi that killed Carole Lombard. Parts of those planes can still be found today.

[@m20j_pilot48]

@Richard C // A friend and I hiked up to the crash site of Carole Lombards' DC-3 in the late 90's. Not much left except the landing gear assemblies and scattered bits and pieces of metal, wire, etc.

[@evangalinsky2499]

It wasn't a private company that found it, it was a private citizen, Melanie Grites.

[@bogingathedolphinking2802]

@@evangalinsky2499 Do you have source?

[@patprice2953]

If they actually want to "preserve" it they should allow it's removal from the lake before it gets to the point where it's no longer a viable airframe. These are a rare plane and should be restored.

[@m4sherman926]

No the boomers will need it in 200 years

[@Megu_Megumin]

@@m4sherman926 nah they can get fifi

[@m4sherman926]

@@Megu_Megumin FiFi was destroyed in 2077 by the Chinese communists.

[@Megu_Megumin]

@@m4sherman926 NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Virus_io.]

Why waste tax payers dollars to dig up a plane in a very difficult location when there still over 20 restored? It's been down there long enough that it has become part of nature. Leaving it be and letting nature run its course is the best choice.

[@unitedwestand420]

At this rate we should be able to walk over to that plane in the next few years

[@PTANV-x2g]

Nope

[@josh661]

Honestly I think this thing should be sitting in a Museum not far from where it crashed or something. It looks like it’s in great condition given what it’s been through and how long it’s been sitting. More people would be able to see it that way

[@trycoldman2358]

*The Boomers liked that*

[@IamDogge]

trycoldman23 why are you everywhere dude?! Edit: idk if this was supposed to be angry but I’m a fan of his channel now

[@jacextreme6432]

Yep

[@screwg9127]

Boomers: Fame gained

[@BobbyTucker]

@James Eger "Gen z"?

[@bigdog517]

@Sandman Huffmaster I laughed pretty hard at that haha

[@CHUUMPASS]

I had to reassure myself that they were in fact talking about 1948, as the research described sounds quite advanced that it seems much more recent. Mind blowing what they actually were researching engineering and developing back then already. Imagine what must be going on today in our time. And so, even if unintented, the B-29 still serves the purpose of research, albeit in a very different manner though. Thank God that the crew members all survived.

[@yellowprime8491]

Looking forward to its eventual raising in 2281 by the "The Courier".

[@hondasuzuki17t]

With lake mead drying out right now, that B 29 can be raised. It is still very sad this lake is drying out.

[@Hukron]

Holy shit it's real

[@logicwurx]

Well of course it’s real.

[@toasterhavingabath6980]

@@logicwurx Fallout new Vegas

[@b226tj]

You didn't know?

[@philippkuhlmeyer9760]

...and now it’s waiting there.. to be restored for the second battle of hoover dam

[@V8Deuce]

If they really cared about this historically significant aircraft they would take it out of the lake and place it at an air museum.

[@sandlmv8301]

That's an amazing site and it's great that the valuable parts in the cockpit especially haven't been stolen off it. The guns would be extremely valuable too I imagine. It needs to be floated and placed into a museum.

[@blogengeezer4507]

'guns'.. removed. This was converted to a flying test bed for optical equipment, no longer doing battle, as in the previous existence. ;}

[@jimmiecurtsinger9991]

Leave it where it is and it will end up in the same shape as the Titanic future generations will not be able to see it, but only in pictures and someone will say I THINK A B-29 CRASHED INTO LAKE MEAD IN 1948 BUT THERE IS NOTHING LEFT OF IT. RAISE IT CLEAN IT UP AND PUT IT IN A LAKE MEAD MUSEUM....

[@mollycaz1]

They should raise it and restore it where people can enjoy this piece of history. Do not let die on the bottom of the lake

[@timmanboy1]

Restorations are impossible now. The last one that was Restorable. Flew in 2016

[@connecticutairspacecenter2484]

@@timmanboy1 They are not impossible. Multiple B-17s are currently being restored from basically nothing. This B-29 could be restored at least to stock static condition.

[@timmanboy1]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 static display would be improvement. But the park service won't let that happen.

[@BobbyTucker]

Amazing, I lived in Las Vegas 35 years and never knew about this 'Landmark', however, I did hear about another plane crash, I've been told it was 1973, that's another story for another place and time. Thank's for sharing this video.

[@chrisatkins7959]

Those depths are getting less as each day passes in 2022. After Mead dries up , it will be easy to salvage her.

[@CDS.2693]

That plane is probably pretty close to the surface at this point.

[@klayed]

it alrdy is kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXLdqmtufs6Jp7c they have many videos of it

[@PTANV-x2g]

Nope

[@derekheuring4646]

Since no lives were lost in the crash of this B-29 it's not a 'war grave' controversy if it's raised. Bring it up, restore it to static display and let people see it. Years ago a tiny privately-owned museum in Canada raised a WWII Handley Page Hampden bomber from the ocean floor off Pat Bay on Vancouver Island and restored it for display at Langley Airport in British Columbia, Canada. If a small volunteer unit from a tiny museum can do that, then it shouldn't be beyond the resources of our Federal government to raise this ac, should it?

[@olliegoria]

No point. It's likely too fragile to move now, and its decay is only accelerating with all the quagga mussels infesting it. It's like the Titanic, we should enjoy it while we still have it and consider ourselves lucky we lived at a time we could see it.

[@hubriswonk]

There are a dozen of these on static display.........not worth the cash.

[@powerbongo922]

@@hubriswonk is it really about the money?

[@Salzmann_69]

its the us government... A person with no arms or legs and is brain dead is more capable

[@jim-me9wm]

How are you preserving it if it's degrading?

[@connecticutairspacecenter2484]

@Sparks There is a big difference from letting this B-29 stay underwater and let it be eaten away by muscles, and recovering the airframe and letting a museum restore it to static condition.

[@Virus_io.]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 There's over 20 on display. Go look at those.

[@Gotobar]

@@Virus_io. 21 is better than 20.

[@coloradostrong]

@@connecticutairspacecenter2484 "eaten away by muscles" 😂 🤣 🙄 🙄 _Mussels_ not "muscles" 🙄

[@keithnoneya]

It's such a shame that this great aircraft will be left to rot at the bottom of Lake Mead instead of being sold off or raised and restored for all generations to enjoy instead of a only a select few wealthy people who are the only ones who can afford to dive on it. It could be sold off to a aircraft restoration company and restored, and depending on the condition flown or put on static display at the park. But nope the Park Service wants it to rot on the bottom of the lake, what a shame. Thanks for sharing the aircraft in video with us anyways. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@WAL_DC-6B]

Considering that there is a fair amount of B-29s surviving in museums (two still flying), the damage to this aircraft (loss of engines, etc.,) and the amount of work to bring it to the surface intact, I doubt anyone would want to go through the difficulty and enormous expense to salvage it. Perhaps after the lake entirely dries up!

[@swaggermaster1156]

The amount of fallout references is unbelievable. I love my fandom

[@sliccricc1654]

*Johnny guitar kicks in* -You take a trusty sip from your vault 13 canteen

[@sirswerve2493]

Brang it up and restore it. Come on rich people. FiFI and Doc need a friend to fly with....

[@thegamingrhino5864]

oh yes

[@dogfightdixon4415]

Speak brother!

[@RaoulThomas007]

They would have to rename it for static display or airworthiness- Maybe, *”I’m in Meade,”* with a picture of a provocative muscle!

[@whodahellru8124]

No kidding! Patch it up, cover the holes and let’s get a few tons of helium filled ping pong balls in that thing!

[@_EllieLOL_]

FiFi, Doc, and Lady Of The Lake

[@kaidrache2395]

Did exactly THAT quest yesterday evening (not for the first nor the last time probably) . Raising the lady is not a problem at all, dealing with the gazillion of Cazadores in the yard right next to the ramp most definitely is.

[@kennedysingh3916]

During WW2 ,B-29's use to fly into the US army air base, Vernam Field Jamaica on training missions and a number of them crashed at the base. Today you would be lucky to find any exampe of any as what was left would have ended up in crap yards but I have heard about one that was purposly ditched as apart of an training mission off the coast of Jamaica but I don't know wear.

[@oldcremona]

09:17 "For future generations to come..." How about just saying "for future generations."

[@torchandhammer]

"For future generations to come going forward".

[@connormclernon26]

Old Cremona you mean the Boomers right?

[@Chuked]

Loyal, Jack, Raquel, Pearl, etc every boomer

[@davidbarnsley8486]

It’s a pity that it wasn’t raised before the quaggas got hold of it and completely covered it

[@matthewcutler6729]

Awesome, story...One of 5 crews, Co-Pilot of that B-29, which it's my Great Uncle Lt. Paul M. Hesler.

[@beckycaughel7557]

With how much the water levels at lake mead have decreased in this last three years I wonder how deep the plane really is

[@cowerdnerddespacito9518]

Doesn’t seem like protecting it if you let muscles literally corrode the plane

[@Laxpowertoo]

Preserving it for the nation, whilst the nation watches it rot away.

[@shakey2634]

So… when originally located it was in 280 feet of water. Later, as the Park Ranger said, it was in 200 feet of water. That report is several years old. I wonder how deep the water is now? As more light and oxygen get to it, along with warmer water temps, the speed of decomposition will only increase. They could raise it, but to what end?

[@Intentsrig]

Also curious what depth it is at now

[@tbugher62]

Less then 80 ft.

[@OtterKingGaming]

Watching this now in 2022, knowing what we know with the lake. Would love an update on the B-29.

[@xara505]

We won't go quietly. The Legion can count on that.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

Oh great the plane was a great assistance at the second battle of Hoover Dam also the Re-breather for lifting the Plane was pretty neat xD

[@gamepad3173]

yeah it really came in handy, the Legion is practically screwed since they are going up against the NCR, Brotherhood, and Enclave. though if I were do that I would first travel to Cottonwood cove and slaughter the legion there before linking up with the NCR.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

@@gamepad3173 thats the way, NCR Brother!

[@3rdFloorblog]

Great informative video. That lady's speech at the end sounded well rehearsed and written by a marketing group :)

[@jeenyus720]

It's like they hired a voice actor and dressed her up like a park ranger.

[@acdii]

2018 water level was 1083 MSL, in 2000 when discovered the water level was 1195 MSL, today it is 1041 MSL. If that plane was at 200' depth back in 2000, it should almost be visible from the surface. They weren't specific at what the actual depth was at the time this was filmed, but with the way the lake is dropping, would not be surprised if the fin started showing.

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

Yep, from what I gather from a local dive company, they were seeing water levels over the last several months from about 95-125'. But recently it's been consistently less than 100'.

[@samsonsees]

Recover her and preserve her. I hate the scripting and there were more than 3 doing high altitude testing.

[@firepower7017]

Sam Sees Here is what most B-29s ended up, being test targets kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4KXlHd8hZV2h80

[@doninventura9474]

What a waste of money. Allow it to be salvaged, or forget about it. If you want to tout it as a diver's interest is one thing, but it holds NO value as a sunken relic.

[@StarryNightMachinima]

The government needs some way to piss away money.

[@bowmanzz1]

I agree. what the fuck are they doing with it? oh you need a permit to dive on it, Oh we want to preserve it, Oh the Cogaga mussles are wearing it away...oohhhhhh booowhoooo. just raise it and scrap it. damn

[@granttgmwendlrestorations8760]

@@bowmanzz1 raise it and rebuild it or put it in a muesam

[@racoonfallingfrom10storybl11]

@@bowmanzz1 Don't forget "Permits" cause jobs. Let it lay as-is, where-is, its not causing problems or harming anything. DO NOT SPEND TAX- MONEY NEEDLESSLY.

[@tokus64]

Today you can watch the plane from the shore. When your planning to visit lake Mead, bring water.

[@gmartin474]

With Lake Mead water level dropping as fast as it is it won't be long before the B-29 will be visible from the surface and people will start diving down to steal parts off it. Something Must Be Done About The Decline Of Lake Mead's Water Level Before It's To Late!

[@courtneyhall7140]

the government will spend millions monotoring it when the could bring it up for much less.our tax dollars a work.idoits.

[@windshearahead7012]

Nobody Knows that’s not even deep water lmfao, it’s only 200 feet...the sunlight reaches it

[@zacharyburden3059]

“Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter”

[@floo1465]

We won’t go quietly, the Legion can count on that.

[@asian_slav1851]

Ad victoriam.

[@iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929]

Wait, the Bomber in lake Mead is real?! Holy crap, I thought that it was just a thing in new Vegas!

[@nicoweyers8162]

Ah back in the old days of 2018 - you know - _when Lake Mead still had water in it_ How tragic

[@dirkvanhaperen]

It breaks my heart to see it just laying on the bottum of that lake. It should be restored to working conditions so everybody can enjoy it and see how beautyfull it used to be. I know for a fact that it would have a better life when it is restored. If there is an way to resceu this beast from that lake please let me know. A B29 shouldn't be on the bottem of a lake, it should be in the air where it belongs.

[@kj4ilk]

Anybody else here because of Fallout New Vegas

[@jacextreme6432]

Yep

[@brodystumpf4689]

Yup.

[@kj4ilk]

Yes

[@Drottoman_]

Yes man

[@CasualCartier]

She has been trained to repeat that history over and over!

[@larrysorenson4789]

There is a school bus in Roosevelt Lake, east of Phoenix. It is at the far west end of the lake. It becomes visible about every ten years. The bass love it.

[@0x07AF]

There's a sunken school bus in Lake Mohave as well. I had no idea that Roosevelt has one too!

[@larrysorenson4789]

@@0x07AF yep. In the 80’s the water was way down (thank God there was no global warming then🤣) and it was exposed to the bottom of the windows. I asked a friend at the newspaper to see if an article was written then but he found nothing. The windows and top were intact. It was almost like someone just drove it right in. It is probably ten to 15 feet down now and the bass are as big as ever. 🐳🤣🤣🤣😃

[@dereklaw5612]

I AGREE THEY SHOULD RAISE THE PLANE AND RESTORE HER TO GLORY BUT WHO WILL DO IT

[@rcbif101]

It could easily be raised with volunteers and crowd funding. Even if it were cleaned up and put on display as is, it would make a great museum piece. Millions could see it in Vegas. But nope. The Park Service will hoard it till it crumbles to bits.

[@dr.mobius3777]

I'm sure the boomers will give it a shot

[@MegaMarcin98]

maybe get the courier to help

[@hirokatsuvictor8755]

One man and two ballasts will do the trick.

[@michaelandrew4488]

The USAF - they have slurged enough money on other things - funnel some funds to this project and get what apprentices they have left in the service do the manual work.

[@lordcatboygaming]

I've done the fallout new Vegas quest where you pull it out of the water but I never thought it was an actual thing that's so cool

[@karlkeortge7370]

Everyone here has obviously played New Vegas and that makes me so happy.

[@fluffyx1556]

off topic but, anyone wonder what it would be like to slide down the hoover dam off a ramp into the water?

[@JDAbelRN]

Yes, it would be like jumping off a 750foot office building and landing on a cement street. Unless you succumb to a heart attack during the 8.2 second fall.

[@fluffyx1556]

@@JDAbelRN you make it sound like jumping off a diving board is like jumping down the stairs. I'm talking like one of the big ass slides you see those really fat people going down

[@BlueAustinMaxi]

I love how people are making fallout new Vegas references

[@joshuaherpolsheimer4699]

They should get with boeing and have it restored after it gets out

[@brettinoloverromantico4095]

Underwater Museum. What a fantastic relic !

[@ncrveteranranger7694]

I might need this for the upcoming battle...

[@someguy332]

I’d rase it and if not make it flying condition at least put it in a hanger some where close to the lake for all to enjoy. If only a few can see it what good is it doing at the bottom.

[@donniemontoya9300]

I'm sure the boomers could find a use for it

[@rkelsey3341]

you hang clothes on hangers, and put airplanes in hangars. get it right.

[@someguy332]

R Kelsey thank you

[@smaze1782]

Had the pilot simply pulled up and climbed after he could no longer judge distance, this mishap never would've happened.

[@craftpaint1644]

Yep, When something unplanned happens, STOP the operation.

[@hirokatsuvictor8755]

But how can I defeat The Legion at Hoover Dam if The Boomers can't use the B-29?

[@schwibbs1286]

This reply is really late, but had this incident not happened, I bet this airplane would have been scrapped or used for target practice decades ago, like most of them were. The airplane likely only exists today because of this mishap, even if it exists 200 feet underwater. Just a shame they are “preserving” it and watching it deteriorate to an unsalvageable level rather than pulling it out and having it restored. It would be unreal to see 3 B-29s flying around together once again.

[@richarddelasota1812]

The pilot evidently didn’t know he was unable to judge his altitude until it was too late. Gaining altitude would be the obvious solution if the pilot knew there was a problem, but, due to the conditions and the malfunctioning altimeter, he didn’t.

[@smaze1782]

@@richarddelasota1812 Good point.

[@yeetmate7382]

Loyal’s detonator begins to beep.

[@Letyourcolorsblendwithmine]

What the National Park Service actually means by preservation is "we'll let it rot down there where only rich people can pay to see it".