The Land Before Time Deleted Scenes | Scribbles to Screen

[@ScribblestoScreen]

Hi everyone I've just got to quickly apologise for some of the audio levels, I've only just realised on KZbin that some of my voice actors sound a bit too quiet, I'll probably upload some of the scenes in full during August or September & I'll make sure all the audio levels are all balanced 👍

[@hollypinky7702]

What happened to cera sisters in the earthquake? Did they died or got lost? Or eaten by the sharptooh?

[@ToastTheThe]

@@hollypinky7702 it's not explained in any cut of the movie what happened to them

[@SunnyMeadows90]

@@ToastTheThe #realisetheBluthcut as long as it has a happy ending just like the Final cut. And I like the added scene of the old dinosaur trying to comfort little foot. Spread the word please I mean after all there is a Snyder cut! Am I right ;)

[@ToastTheThe]

@@SunnyMeadows90 i know StS said to spread the word about releasing the original cut of The Land Before Time 1 but you don't need to spam it everywhere lol

[@SunnyMeadows90]

@@ToastTheThe I see

[@eldritchthorne]

Every time I hear Ducky's voice, my heart aches terribly.

[@nathangravitt5982]

Mine does too! It’s so sad what happened to that little girl.

[@purposebehindthepen]

Mine too.

[@ladycavalier]

Me too 😔

[@catzrule1990]

Mine too.. For both Ducky and Anne Marie. That poor little girl.

[@DamonNomad82]

Judith Barsi, RIP.

[@elsakristina2689]

Sad news: Don Bluth has recently confirmed in his autobiography that he does NOT own an uncut copy of “The Land Before Time” in his archives, and he has said that the deleted scenes were swept off the cutting room floor and put in the trash and that they have long been destroyed. It’s really disappointing, but TBH I wouldn’t let that end ALL hope. Anyone who’s been in the lost media world long enough knows that sometimes things are either completely or at least partially found in unexpected ways or from unexpected sources. Anything is possible.

[@omegamanGXE]

Someone track down that week’s garbage collector :D I still have hope!

[@mauricegblanco]

I need to get a VHS player but I have a VHS screener from one of my parents friends that were in the industry. Unless I'm having a Mandela effect, i've seen the color edited shots that are just black and white sketches in this video. I remember thinking as a kid that this was darker than other cartoons I had seen at the time.

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

@@mauricegblancoYes please and do and please let us know ! :-)

[@Kawayoporu]

+elsa-lb7vm Really? But are you sure you hope someone have a copy of it?

[@AlixHallow]

​@@mauricegblancoyou could be the only one in the world to have this come to light!

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

If you look closely at the Disney films he worked on, you can definitely see his style, like the kids in Robin Hood. I really wish we got to see his take on Beauty and the Beast though; nothing against the Disney version, which I do like, but I personally would've preferred a darker adaptation that was closer to the original stories.

[@littlesongbird1]

I wish he could have done "East of the Sun, West of the Moon". That was an early folktale version of what Beauty and the Beast and was very dark.

[@LaineyBug2020]

Can you imagine his The Litte Mermaid?

[@619AGT]

If Don Bluth had been able to gain the rights to The Black Cauldron, I’m sure it would’ve done better than how it did with Disney. Hell, he would’ve probably made more movie adaptations of the other books of the Chronicles of Prydain.

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

@@LaineyBug2020 Adults might like it better, but I doubt it would have triggered the Disney renaissance era as we know it.

[@Garthantula]

I realized that for myself when watching Pete’s Dragon a few months ago. I see much more Bluth than Disney in the design of Elliot.

[@eilonwy0360]

Cera: he is my best friend! Dad: a longneck?? Cera: no, Littlefoot! omg this is some of the most touching pieces of dialogue in the film... to think Cera really accepted Littlefoot as not just a "longneck" , but as a person equal to her, hence she corrects her father's wording... this is just too precious. Cera has really grown through her friendship with the group

[@aceshighdueceslow]

it is too bad that we couldn't keep something like that since it bookends the only dialogue he has that isn't saying her name. He's the one that establishes the racist context saying "Three horns never play with *Longnecks*". Probably would've also been nice to have juuuuuust another glimpse of Cera's growth because, honestly, I've always felt that she doesn't grow that much by the conclusion of the film. Keeping a piece of dialogue like that would've at least shown that she does value the relationship they all developed over the journey. She can still continue being a jerk, but at least now you know that she still loves them, even if she can't help herself

[@danieldb631]

80's Spielberg: "I don't know about this footage with the T-rex. It might be too scary." 90's Spielberg: "I want to make the T-rex scary."

[@gabbyhaynes5394]

To be fair, Jurassic is also seriously toned down compared to its book (the opening segments include a baby getting eaten by escaped compys) and even then was PG-13. Come to think of it, this film was in talks in 86 shortly after American Tail, which was also yhe same year PG-13 was instated. I wonder if it's plausible they were also worried a PG-13 animated feature would be dead in water.

[@Silence.-]

An example at how gruesome the book was compared to the film is the way Dennis dies it goes the same way until up until he is disemboweled by the dilophosaurus and realising he's holding his own intestines because he's been blinded.

[@charlessaint7926]

80s Spieldberg, "The T-Rex is too scary for kids." 90s, Spieldberg, "I want the T-Rex to try eating the kids."

[@Kaisona2017]

To be fair, Jurassic Park is PG-13. They can get away with scarier scenes in that kind of movie.

[@dannyhuskerjay]

@@gabbyhaynes5394the book was far more horror then adventure

[@sonrouge]

Land Before Time was a big part of my childhood. I'm probably gonna bawl like a child again when Don Bluth leaves this world.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I'll just be heart broken when Don Bluth leaves this world. He could be our only hope of bringing the magic of 2D animation back into our lives. Without him, What will happen to his studio? Who will continue his career and dreams? Who will take his place? How will his animation survive? I even want to get a chance to meet Don Bluth before he leaves. Well, I guess all we can do is hope that he stays at least a little longer and try to make a miracle happen.

[@Campbellzilla]

@@dreamguardian8320 Well he still teaches classes to students, he's probably inspired a successor with the scores of students he's influenced either directly or indirectly, and with stuff like Klaus or the films made by Irish studio Cartoon Saloon, 2D animation will survive.

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@Campbellzilla I hope so🤞

[@stg4theglitchog768]

It was also a big part of my childhood.

[@jamesmiller5125]

You must of had a bad childhood

[@osmanyousif7849]

You know, one of the things I look back at is that during the film, there seemed to be a big emphasis on the "tree-star" Littlefoot carries, despite the fact that the tree-star barely plays any big part of the film. Sure, some may argue that the tree-star is precious to Littlefoot and helps remind him of his mother. But then when the Sharptooth arrives on the morning of the chase incident, the tree-star just gets randomly destroyed, with the camera doing a dramatic zoom on it, as to signify it being important. But the problem here is that it's never mentioned again after and Littlefoot acts totally fine with the fact that something that his mother gave him is now destroyed. But I think because of all the cuts being made, there may have been more story with this side-plot before and after on how it develops Littlefoot.

[@digimonlover1632]

Eh. I thought it was handled well. It was supposed to represent his immaturity. I felt him simply moving on instead of crying over that is him truly realizing the situation he’s in and I feel it’s something that truly kickstarts his development. So yeah. To me, it’s important.

[@girl1213]

I felt that it represented him letting go of his mother's death when it came apparent to him just how in danger everyone, even him, really was. I mean he says itself during one of Sharptooth ambush chases: "Don't look back. Keep going!" He has to focus on the group, not himself. When he tries to walk away from them when they try the "easy" path after his climatic fight with Cera because he had been taking the hard path this whole journey compared to them (none of them are dealing with the clearly apparent death of a parent), he comes to realize his mother didn't run away, not just because she loved him, but cared enough about others regardless of their differences. The "tree-star" was only holding him back and by destroying it, he grows up.

[@philiptonymcgrawjrthephilm1570]

​@@digimonlover1632 Littlefoot gets a new treestar in the Sequels

[@gabbyhaynes5394]

I remember in 2nd grade my classroom had one of the picture books (either friends in need or in search of the great valley). In the book, they actually had a line of dialogue where Petrie tells Littlefoot they lost the treestar just after they escape from Sharptooth.

[@joaolucaslopes1961]

I guess it made sense, since right after it they discovered the longneck rock. So it made littlefoot to focus on finding the great valley. I also think that the tree-star represented his mom spirit, since it came back to him after her death. So as soon it was destroyed her spirit took the form of the longneck rock. Yes, i believe this rock was his mom guiding littlefoot and his friends.

[@alexanderpytko5394]

Another thing about Sharptooth's death in the original cut. Littlefoot is guiding them back to the entrance to the Great Valley as they cross the pond knowing they're almost there. Then they see Sharptooth. Now in the theatrical release, they decide to get rid of Sharptooth for good so they won't have to worry about him anymore but in the original cut, Littlefoot can see that Sharptooth is approaching the entrance to the Great Valley and knows that if Sharptooth gets into the valley all the other dinosaurs including their families will be in danger and it'll be their fault because they led him there. Littlefoot knows that since Sharptooth has found out where the valley is, they have to make sure he never gets in and the only way to do that is for them to kill him. Then Littlefoot tells them his plan. Littlefoot's words were, "It IS Sharptooth. He's looking for the entrance to the Great Valley. He wants to get at the herds. (guilty) And we led him here. We'll have to lure him off those rocks. We'll have to kill him."

[@eliassanchez1112]

yeah the only way was to kill the sharptooth fast and quick before it kills like everyone in the great valley before taking the entrance otherwise the valley would been in great danger

[@reversenoobz1]

@@eliassanchez1112 It's crazy because he could actually do it too. I know that sounds stupid, but this is the only Sharptooth (T-rex) to not only kill, but kill a full grown Apadasaurus.

[@altarush]

They ruin it on with Chomper. The Barney craze took over Land before Time and I wonder what Bluth thought.

[@equarg]

To think the little girl who voiced “Ducky” was brutally murdered by her own abusive father after she finished voicing “All Dogs go to heaven”. The envious father killed her and her mother, set the house on fire, and then killed him self. 😭😭😭😭 A rich family bought her and her mom a plot to be buried in, but took years to get proper headstones. Her father was envious of her success, and took it out on her. Cowardly SOB!

[@RevolErtaeht]

He was a monster Her gravestone even has Ducky's catchphrase on it

[@andreah9587]

Her name is Judith Barsi. Her father was horrendously abusive, probably even before her success. He was a raging alcoholic, arrested for multiple DUIs. He used to threaten and beat her (and her mom) and sexually abuse her. He even paid someone to (falsely) tell his wife that her relative in another country had died in order to prevent her from leaving the USA. She stayed with that bastard, and she didn’t leave her monstrous husband because she was afraid that she’d have nowhere to go and that he would kill them if she left with Judy - and sadly, she was right. He killed her and Judy after he found out she was planning to finally leave him. Before this, Judy had several breakdowns, and a child psychologist who examined her said she was exhibiting signs of being severely abused. Her mother also made a report of domestic abuse. Police officers were sent to investigate their home multiple times, but they supposedly found no evidence of abuse and nobody did anything about it. And now it’s too late. Everyone failed that poor little girl. She deserved better. May Judy Rest In Peace.

[@joshuaenodien3853]

@@andreah9587 I was shocked when I heard this, I thought she grew up with the other Land Before Time voice actors/actresses.

[@andreah9587]

@@joshuaenodien3853 i know, i did too until i stumbled upon a youtube video covering her tragic life. She deserves to be remembered and for people to know the truth about her story. I hope the broken justice system in this country is fixed someday so no other child has to suffer what Judy went through.

[@joshuaenodien3853]

@@andreah9587 I get abuse is not easy to get out of but I hope in the future, women see the red flags before they end up getting married or even having kids with an abuser.

[@malorie-kaesteinmuller6810]

Littlefoot's mother's death scene really did traumatise me when I was little, to the idea of suddenly losing my mother to death unstoppable by me. That's still a huge fear but, not as crazy anxiety inducing as it was when I was small. I would not leave her side. Also 40th anniversary oh god I feel so old

[@pensacolian211]

Same. I was 3 or 4 when I saw it, and every time my mom left I was convinced she wasn't coming back, and was going to die. TLBT messed me up bad.

[@pepitotoro596]

At 5 or 6 it made me think about life without my parents

[@Desto13]

Same!

[@DamonNomad82]

It impacted me similarly at age 5 when the movie first came out. I was always playing through the story with my toy dinosaurs at that age, and always changed that part of the story to have her survive, and Littlefoot helping her along until she recovered from her injuries...

[@eminemilly]

Awk my almost 3 year old has been obsessed with this movie for 2 months

[@maximaldinotrap]

Lets remember that Don Bluth, Steven Spielberg, AND GEORGE LUCAS, all worked on the first Land Before Time.

[@Kalebfenoir]

I always thought Sharptooth was pre-blinded in the right eye, and that when he gets nailed in the eye by the thorn vines, it's added insult to injury. Like, his eye still worked, even if he kept it closed because of a prior injury, but just at the moment he opened it to get a better view of the inside of that briar patch, he ended up taking thorns to it, and that ended up permanently damaging his eye after that. And that was the same eye he opened when Cera was planning to 'ram' him, and she freaked out. Thing is...that was the blinded eye. So even though he opened it, he couldn't SEE out of it. So he never saw her.

[@paulsiegfried6337]

RIP 🪦 Judith Barsi 1978-1988. Aka ducky land before time and Anne Marie all dogs go to heaven

[@RYMAN1321]

Such a preventable tragedy 🥺 So many things failed that girl, albeit Domestic Violence wasn’t ever discussed back then.

[@heathert5455]

What is strange is that my maternal grandmother is named Judith and my mother's name is Anne Marie.

[@xanderg.1070]

I think it’s possible that we could see some more deleted scenes of the movie. We’ve recently found the original storyboards of the Sharptooth attack, plus with Don Bluth’s other film, All Dogs go to Heaven, the scenes that were cut of Charlie’s nightmare of him being in hell which showed more scenes of the Hellhound.

[@paulmoses3381]

What really! 🤔

[@xanderg.1070]

@@paulmoses3381 yeah the story boards of the original Sharptooth attack is on KZbin along with the deleted All Dogs go to Heaven nightmare sequence.

[@mzcyberbat]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? 😱

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

Ok. I was about to go to bed at 4am and I found this and YO. THAT WAS NIGHTMARISH. FEK! Those scenes made that scene even WORSE. Bluth is an animation genius.

[@RoselandPSI7]

Not to mention this one deleted scene from _Rock-A-Doodle_ where the Duke of Owls attempts to bake a skunk in a pie in his lair before Hutch falls in after last seeing Edmond and his friends in his toybox boat getting sucked into an aqueduct pipe.

[@TheDrene]

I saw this movie in theaters with my mom when I was a kid, my dad was in the military. I cried my eyes out when the mother dinosaur died.

[@dreamguardian8320]

My mom almost cried when Mufasa from the cartoon Lion King died.

[@Threetails]

I like his take on the Secret of NIMH sequels. "Somebody went and made one, and it wasn't good."

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I nearly cheered. I mean- that movie was pain.

[@littlesongbird1]

All of the sequels to his films were bad..especially the Land before time ones.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

@@littlesongbird1 I kinda disagree to an extent. They were by no means as good as OG in story or especially art- But many of the sequels were fun. I think I started falling out after the stone of cold fire.

[@AlienFaun]

Funny that they chose the youngest son, who was ill in the first movie and had little sceentime, to be the protagonist. I was and still am salty how they made Mrs. Brisby like she wasn't important anymore.

[@vjpearce]

I actually read the second book. The story starts off with Timmy going to Thorn Valley, but it's not all about him. Along the way finds another rat called Racso also heading to Thorn Valley, who is Jenner's Son.

[@Zacman1123]

Apparently there was suppose to be a shot of Sharptooth looking up as he sinks down but it was cut for supposedly being too scary.

[@DamonNomad82]

The Land Before Time was released at the perfect time for me. I was just starting school, and I was absolutely obsessed with dinosaurs. It was my favorite movie throughout my childhood. The fact that the protagonist was my favorite species of dinosaur didn't hurt either. I was never impressed with any of the sequels, probably because they were inferior to the original and were released when I was much older.

[@finchatforharambe905]

Same

[@LuthienNightwolf]

Exact same for me. Little 6 year old me was obsessed with all things Land Before Time, I had the pizza hut puppets, a Littlefoot plushie, and I think even some bedsheets at one point. Along with a million other dinosaur things. lol I didn't like any of the sequels either, they felt rushed and low quality.

[@Sandlot1992]

I really would like to see the original cut of this film along with the Pagemaster which features scenes of Frankenstein's Monster or something!

[@dreamguardian8320]

I never understood why they deleted so many scenes from the Pagemaster. If they hadn't, then the movie might've gotten better reviews.

[@SpookyPancakes]

@@dreamguardian8320 twin

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@SpookyPancakes What do you mean twin?

[@AlienFaun]

I remembered seeing that from the trailer

[@robertgaudet7407]

Pagemaster was terrifying as I recall.

[@twist58]

Respect to Judith Barsi (aka Ducky). I’ll bet she had additional dialogue recorded before she died. She really did enjoy this character personally in her final days.

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

Hello there I see you often

[@twist58]

@@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344 Yup. And I’m not limited to anything MLP alone. 😆

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

@@twist58 😆

[@essillius]

As an adult this movie still makes me cry. As beautiful and well done as it was, I still tear up lol

[@vaporean_boylove.0w083]

Agreed. This movie got my heartstrings pulled

[@omegamanGXE]

I just watched again yesterday and I was absolutely BAWLING 😭 I’m 30 years old and I can’t believe what a hysterical blubbering mess this movie turned me into

[@BladesDark]

I was looking for this comment. This movie filled my love for great story telling, beautiful art and of course Dinosaurs 🦕🦖

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

@@omegamanGXEIf that scene of Littlefoot Crying after his mom dies it doesn’t make you cry or feel like you’re gonna cry there’s something wrong with you no matter what no matter how otherwise it may seem!

[@alexanderpytko5394]

I remember that when I saw this at the movies as a kid. After Sharptooth and Petrie go down and Ducky says "Poor Petrie," we then see Sharptooth's body going down head first down the deep pond, sinking out of frame towards the bottom left. Petrie manages to get free and struggles back to the top. I know remember seeing that in the movie theater. I have heard that some scenes made it to the big screen but were later deleted for home video.

[@Reicha]

That's the version I have. Swedish dub, VHS.

[@thegracklepeck]

I had a vhs of the Land Before Time from McDonald's that had that version too!

[@SharkyLunasaurus]

The vhs that I watched as a kid had the scene too. A lot of those cut scenes were in it. But it was a rental. I think its always possible that some of the theaters or rental stores accidentally were given the pre-cut versions.

[@alexanderpytko5394]

@@SharkyLunasaurus I guess the theater that I went to was accidentally given the precut version. Of course, that's the only scene I can remember that was cut. If anyone still has the vhs version with that scene, I'd wish they'd post that scene. Even if they use their phone to record it off the tv screen. I'd like to see it again so I'll know I really did see it in the movie theater.

[@wintergray1221]

@@thegracklepeck Yes, I have that one, too! Kept it for the nostalgia even though I can't play VHS anymore, but I didn't know it was an extended version. Definitely hanging onto it like my original box art The Little Mermaid. 😁

[@KibaRanger_Kou]

Top stuff. No mucking about. Straight to the meat and incredibly informative. I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if there isn't a restored version of this down the road. With names like Spielberg and Lucas onboard and the way they have handled preservation of their works I will be dead set shocked if this stuff is completely destroyed.

[@anonymouslyknown6530]

If they were involved they could make a really good cgi movie remake. I would go see it.

[@rottendog5774]

Off topic but I love the way you talk

[@ILoveQazaqstan]

@@anonymouslyknown6530 Universal made a Land Before Time in 2016

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

Your fursona is adorable!!

[@jamiethedinosaur869]

You think Lucas cares about preserving his work? Look how much he mangled the original Star Wars trilogy in the name of allegedly improving it to the point that it’s not easy to find the unaltered version anymore.

[@KRAFTWERK2K6]

This man is one of my greatest Childhood heroes. Don Bluth and his ambitions gave us the kind of Animated Movies we all deserve. And i will forever be grateful for all his talent and compassion. A restored original cut of "a Land before time" would be amazing to watch.

[@HydraSpectre1138]

I hope they release the PG-rated (or better yet, Unrated) Bluth cut of The Land Before Time.

[@landbefortime6898]

they wont, the films were burned

[@RYMAN1321]

@@landbefortime6898 That’s sad, the days of film before things were saved (Internet didn’t exist yet, and DVDs weren’t really a thing yet either). Though if you look at James Cameron’s older films, there’s tons of deleted scenes that are still available to watch. Is it something with Cameron and preserving old footage?

[@SunnyMeadows90]

#realisetheBluthcut as long as it has a happy ending just like the Final cut. And I like the added scene of the old dinosaur trying to comfort little foot. Spread the word please I mean after all there is a Snyder cut! Am I right ;)

[@noahbossier1131]

It may be possible. I do know at least several prints were made of the 80 minute version(and one was sent to a critic). I also read a story that someone watch the 80 minute version on a priviate VHS from parents who worked in films. so it can be possible.

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@landbefortime6898 , well there are plenty of animators out there who can just redo them from scratch. All you need is the original script, storyboards, and the right crew of 2D cel-animators to help fix the original back.

[@AI-ig9qn]

Heh. Heheh. If we’re in an era of remakes, I want to see a Land Before Time Remake by Don Bluth. But, I want to see the entire deleted scene carnage from the original script XD

[@bradwhite5884]

Love a remake, either a digital 2D or a 3D remake, but don't want the 3D remake be like the Lion King one, but with more emotion, don't want it be half arsed but take time and such, also dinosaurs be scientific accurate, so yeah

[@rebeccamount50]

Maybe a special edition with the deleted footage as extra features.

[@TheMorbidHobbiest]

@@rebeccamount50 That seems like the most plausible outcome we could hope for. LBT has been targeted to younger and younger children in the sequels from what I've seen. More language and crude humor is allowed these days, but it feels like violence has been dialed down to compensate. An "Ultimate Anniversary Edition " with an original cut and deleted scenes would be risky in their eyes. But we can hope

[@tvoovm7254]

I would like that too if some people stop using crappy CGI. Just saying.

[@mzcyberbat]

I would be happy if they cleaned it up. It needs restoring.

[@frostyboi4078]

The moment when the light shines onto the great valley and the swelling of the score still gives me the same eruption of feelings that it did when I was five. Absolutely stunning, this movie was a huge part of my childhood.

[@legionbeast]

You forgot that before the final group hug, Littlefoot climbs the mountain one more time to talk to the spirit of his mother. As stated: "-the original ending's final scene would feature Littlefoot sitting atop a hill, high above the valley. His mother's spirit would appear, and (according to "The Illustrated Story") whisper to him one last time, telling him not to forget her. Littlefoot would reply, saying that he would never forget his mother and that she would be in his heart forever." Considering how important his mother was to the story and his drive to follow her final words being the keystone to the whole journey, this scene no longer being in the final cut hurts the most for me.

[@JayFoxFire]

;w; Ugh that tugged my heart string. That's actually would have made it more touching. Its a shame that its been cut out.

[@Laia92]

It hurts even more when you know that in those many many sequels he indeed forgot her...

[@raynavillus4927]

I am strongly reminded of Jonathan Creek, know what I mean. Secret of Nimh, An american tale, the Land Before Time and Anastasia are me favorites of his movies!

[@thesilvershining]

I saw The Land Before Time in the theater as a kid and still to this day no movie makes me weep more. Bluth really knew how to make beautiful moving films that spoke to kids and adults.

[@destinymcintire2188]

May Ducky's voice actress rest in peace.

[@zeldafan1942]

The late, great TV Commercial star, Judith Barsi (1978-1988).

[@randomguyontheinternet8345]

Such a sad ending to such a great potential life.

[@tinovanderzwanphonocave544]

sadly the little girl playing Duckey was brutally murdered by her father, for me, putting a depressive note on hearing her voice strangely the movie is still impressive and enjoyable to me.

[@surplusdivision2461]

She was also on an episode of the twilight zone. I think I was the one with the nukes.

[@EvanAguiluz]

I guess you could say she survived nukes but not her father

[@SuperLollypoplove]

This turned out great Harry, well done!

[@Threetails]

The missing clips from "The Land Before Time" and the scenes in the commercials that aren't in the final cut used to drive me crazy as a kid. It was the movie that taught me that directors sometimes cut things out of their movies very late in development and for reasons that don't make sense to audiences. I was 4 when it came out, and a very observant kid, so I was upset that the scenes I saw in the theatrical trailer and the Pizza Hut commercial weren't all there.

[@ninjatanuki]

Don Bluth: "I would love to do the sequel to Nimh. Someone went out there and did one but, It wasn't right." OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *airhorn* *dubstep and MLG memes etc*

[@thegracklepeck]

😂 savage. And I remember how excited I was when I heard that there was going to be a sequel, only for it to be some sad garbage sequel and not a good one. I was so mad 😂

[@m0istur]

With or without the deleted scenes, this movie is still the best as it is

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

Don Bluth is such a fascinating name in animation history. This man DOMINATED the 1980s and even beat Disney in the box office. I've always been disappointed that he largely retired from animation after Titan A.E. Over 20 years, I'd love to see him make something new.

[@altarush]

They rehired him at Disney since they are messing up again.

[@Wispvein]

A morbid little fact for anyone who doesn't know: the child actress for ducky, Judith Barsi; was murdered by her father at only 10 years old. All Dogs Go To Heaven went to theaters shortly after her death, her voice encapsulated her talent posthumously in the movie and the soundtrack was dedicated in her memory.

[@BlazeHeartPanther]

Just the soundtrack? Not the whole movie?

[@jimmymelendez1836]

Geez, amongst of all the history of the Bluth cut, I completely had big time flashbacks to my childhood. I've seen this movie. My brother and I had the puppets from Pizza Hut. We even had the promotional still from Pizza Hut.

[@DamonNomad82]

The puppets from Pizza Hut were EVERYWHERE just after the film's release. Practically every kid I knew at the time had at least one of them. I also remember the Pizza Hut commercial that was included at the beginning of the original home video release of the movie.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I only had Littlefoot, Spike, Petrie, and Sharptooth.

[@JediLadyMisty]

@@DamonNomad82 I know that advertisement so well, despite not seeing it in years, I can almost hear and see it without closing my eyes.

[@MrWizeazz]

Yea they were everywhere during the release. I had Cera, Ducky, Spike, and Sharptooth. Cera and Sharptooth are the only ones I currently still have.

[@AxelWedstar411]

Few things make me feel older than being able to remember TLBT2's original release. I'd wager this channel has subscribers that weren't even born in '94!

[@DamonNomad82]

Indeed. The really scary thing is that there will be 20-year-olds born after 9/11 in just over a month. I remember TLBT1's original release, and going to the theater to see it. I had almost reached my teens when the first sequel was released, and was bitterly disappointed that it fell so far short of the original (IMHO, anyway).

[@gav2057]

@@DamonNomad82 I'm one of those people. It must be hard knowing that such a traumatic event that's so vivid in your mind happened so long ago. It probably feels like the entire world is moving on but that one bit of history will stand out in your mind forever. I was born a month after 9/11, so I can only guess what that feels like.

[@DamonNomad82]

@@gav2057 Thank you for your kind words! I can imagine how it would be from your perspective. 9/11 was one of the great generational disasters. I remember when I was a kid, before it ever happened, my parents talking about the Kennedy assassination, or my grandparents talking about Pearl Harbor, and not being able, on a personal level, to process how deep the memory goes, as those events were before my time. I was a college freshman when 9/11 happened, and it was quite psychologically scarring, and the world suddenly didn't seem as safe or wholesome anymore. I hope there aren't any disasters on that scale for your generation, and that everything will stay peaceful for you! Those who remember it tend to always remember exactly what they were doing when they got the news of the event.

[@KnTenshi2]

@@gav2057 It's the same for those who saw JFK assassinated and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. What were once traumatic memories have now been relegated to just a moment in history. Time ever moves forwards - cherish your personal knowledge of "historic" events and remember that history for some was life for others.

[@JordanS-ww4eu]

I was born in 92

[@Tiresias55]

16:17 I love this movie, ever since I first saw it as a child, but my favorite part is and was always Ducky. It breaks my heart knowing what happened to such a sweet little girl.

[@angelawildman122]

I want to see the original cut!

[@jimskywalker7734]

Do You Want Uncredited Credits Included In The Original Cut Too?

[@SunnyMeadows90]

So do I so….. #realisetheBluthcut as long as it has a happy ending just like the Final cut. And I like the added scene of the old dinosaur trying to comfort little foot. Spread the word please I mean after all there is a Snyder cut! Am I right ;)

[@angelawildman122]

Yes!

[@jimskywalker7734]

@@angelawildman122 The Original Uncut Version Of The Land Before Time Will Include The 1988 Lucasfilm Ltd Opening Logo And The Original Uncut Version Will Use The End Credits Background Completely Blue (Just Like The Care Bears Movie 1985)! The Film With No Cuts Only Has The Reused Animations And Plants And Landscapes Background And Scrolls Down To Blue Background At The Last Bit Of Credits And Right To The Don Bluth And Amblin Entertainment Logos!

[@kamu747]

Me too but sadly @24:16

[@noahbossier1131]

I do know that at least a few prints of the 80 Minute version existed(or possibly exist) One of these prints was sent to a film critic for a pre release review of the film written a few days before release. I also remember reading a story from someone that their parents(who worked in the film industry) got a private VHS copy of the 80 minute version shortly before release. hopefully this can help find the uncut version of the film.

[@noahbossier1131]

@@jdcman8949 the critic story I can verify Hal Hinson of the Washington Post mentioned that "its light on trangressions(its only 80 minutes long)" in his review. Critic screenigs happen a week before release.

[@noahbossier1131]

@@jdcman8949 Its possible several critics got the 80 minute version. the other story I cant exactly verify but the person said his parents worked in the industry and got the 80 minute version on private VHS

[@noahbossier1131]

@@jdcman8949 I think its possible several critics got 80 minute versions. The Sharptooth attacks were cut before the film finished production(those scenes were cut in April 88 in London)

[@mrbanks456]

Thinking back on the Rescuers it REALLY does look like Bluth's style.

[@landbefortime6898]

I cant believe we are still trying to unravel the mystery of the cut version of this perfect movie

[@dreamguardian8320]

Well, with a famous movie like The Land Before Time, you would want to get as much historical info as you can. Just like many Star Wars fans are doing right now.

[@EChacon]

Turns out the reason for _The Land Before Time_ running at 69 minutes aside from the scary scenes being removed due to it being frightening for Children was due to the request and changes by George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Amblin Entertainment, especially the latter two. In fact, Spielberg and Amblin supervising and making changes in this film and to a degree _An American Tail_ releases two years before this film were what soured Don Bluth's relationship with Steven Spielberg and led to Bluth cutting ties with him afterwards which is why Don Bluth went to a different film distributor (Goldcrest films) and want to have his later films without any restrictions and changes. Of course, we know the outcome of what happened to some of his later films following All Dogs Go to Heaven (except Anastasia).

[@osmanyousif7849]

Yeah, I heard that All Dogs GO To Heaven wasn't how it was made and there were some more interesting themes put in, mostly about the crime business going through the casino and more emphasis on Charlie's revenge on Carface.

[@zeldafan1942]

“Anastasia” was by far Don Bluth’s best!

[@brendis16851]

Yes, with the notable exception of Anastasia, Don Bluth's movies that came out after All Dogs Go to Heaven were awful as they went into a more childish and safer route (I'm looking at you, Thumbelina)

[@EChacon]

@@osmanyousif7849 Then again, All Dogs Go to Heaven wasn't heavily edited and trimmed by Steven Spielberg and Amblin following Bluth's split from them after The Land Before Time.

[@dawnmana5876]

@@brendis16851 Thumbelina had it's good points. It was a much more faithful adaptation of a Hans Christian Anderson story than most.

[@bigoldinosaur]

With LBT being my favorite movie of all time this video was quite a shock for me. I had no idea that scenes had been switched, cut, and never made it into the final cut. Thank you for making this!!! Also at 23:47 that's Gary Oldman...not Gary Goldman

[@Chef_Alpo]

I always preferred Bluth's work over Disney productions as good as those were. Disney's primary focus was on entertainment value while Bluth was more concerned with overall artistic presentation and imagery that stirred the gamut of raw emotional feedback.

[@blueberrypitbull87]

Walt Disney would have never laughed at him like that… If he were still alive at that point, he would have encouraged Don to follow his dreams.

[@dreamguardian8320]

Yeah, maybe.

[@blippityjoobity3008]

Idk Walt was sort of known as a dick

[@blueberrypitbull87]

@@blippityjoobity3008 Nah, those are lies made up after his death. Mostly by people who believe he hated Jews. Which is false. He actually defended his Jewish employees and fired a lawyer for anti Semitic remarks about the Sherman Brothers. "Walt was sensitive to people's feelings . . . He hated to see people mistreated or discriminated against. One time, Richard and I overheard a discussion between Walt and one of his lawyers. This attorney was a real bad guy, didn't like minorities. He said something about Richard and me, and he called us 'these Jew boys writing these songs.' Well, Walt defended us, and he fired the lawyer. Walt was unbelievably great to us."

[@Chachamaru15]

@@blueberrypitbull87 where did you get the quote from, if you don't mind sharing?

[@iandanielcassidy8126]

I like this movie since I was younger. The Land Before Time was my favorite animated movie from Don Bluth, along with An American Tail.

[@darthgoku90]

One of the most heart-warming, tear-jerking animated movies ever.... and it's not even a Disney movie! I sure would like to see the uncut version. I think they should've been more lax on the edits in the first place. The Lion King had very similar thematic material (i.e. kids in peril, parental loss) and was released just six years later without any similar edits. I think the fact that the Lion King still became so successful proves that they didn't need to edit the Land Before Time so much.

[@tavvyprods1275]

Taking influence from An American Tail, I want to say Never Say Never about the chances of a Director’s Cut for The Land Before Time.

[@blu_otaku7063]

"Never say never papa"❤

[@baffledbrandon3132]

23:27 Yeah, I can definitely see why THAT line was cut.

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

*" W E H A V E T O K I LL H I M . "*

[@tigerproducts6905]

Oh I'm going to get killed

[@morganwhaley9119]

The Land Before Time has been one of my favorite movies since I was a little kid. As I got older I started to recognizing that the was something off, though. That the sequences of shots didn't always make sense. Learning that it was heavily edited last minute explained why. I really wish I could see the original cut. I think Littlefoot feeling lost and alone but finding the Great Valley, only to turn back for his friends is very poignant.

[@jenneacubero1036]

I think some of these deleted scenes shouldn't have made the final cut. The scene with the crown heads and the sauropholos along with Cera talking to her dad at the end, seemed too hand-fisted about the moral.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Also, there seemed to be a big emphasis on the "tree-star" Littlefoot carries, despite the fact that the tree-star barely plays any big part of the film. Sure, some may argue that the tree-star is precious to Littlefoot and helps remind him of his mother. But then when the Sharptooth arrives on the morning of the incident, it's just randomly destroyed, with the camera doing a dramatic zoom on it, as to signify it being important. But the problem here is that it's never mentioned again after and Littlefoot acts totally fine with the fact that something that his mother gave him is now destroyed. But I think because of all the cuts being made, there may have been more story with this side-plot before and after on how it develops Littlefoot.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

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[@whitedragoness23]

@@osmanyousif7849 I never really gave a huge interpretation about that scene as a child. But now that I think about it. Little foot did carry around the tree star as a bit of a comfort toy to keep him company and link to his mom. But despite its destruction he doesn’t need to cling on to that tree star anymore. In some ways he’s” older” and wiser to the harsh realities of the real world and his friends have replaced that fear. I guess what I’m trying to say it got destroyed in a sad moment and maybe it was symbol he could carry on because little foot seems to act more mature and less child like trying to care for everyone and guide them to their families

[@robokill387]

*ham-fisted.

[@christophermonteith2774]

well the first part does, cant say that the end part would

[@SunnyStar94]

I was born in 1994 and this, alongside The Lion King, were my favourite films as a little child. I still love both ❤️

[@DerTeufelskerrrl]

They should do a FINAL Sequel where all the Characters are grown up and has to struggle with Problems like start a family or Chompers destiny to be a predator...

[@IzayoiArwena]

Yes that would be lovely. But Im crazy because all my life ive been shipping Little Foot with Cera even though she was a stupborn Little bitch, a Mrs know it all while he was responsible and caring. A good leader

[@adrianfisherii7785]

"We've got 7 years before the 40th anniversary of the Land Before Time..." Way to make me feel old! Good video, this was my childhood movie

[@Steven_Andreyechen]

You used a photo of actor Gary Oldman instead of Gary Goldman. Great video regardless.

[@ScribblestoScreen]

Oopsy is well will get it right next time 😂

[@Steven_Andreyechen]

@@ScribblestoScreen It’s a very easy mistake to make, it’s only one letter off lol

[@Freezient]

Omg i knew it, seeing that photo i was like “huh that looks like Gary Oldman..”

[@MrWizeazz]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that.

[@masakari8245]

Not only that, but he said "composer" Gary Goldman. Goldman was a PRODUCER for the film, which I assume he meant to say. James Horner was the composer.

[@Yoxiv]

I kind of prefer how they toned back the racism in the final film. It felt more subtle, and was just more akin to "look out for yourself and your family", which fits with the survivalist mentality held by many of the dinosaurs throughout the movie before they finally find peace in the Great Valley. While drawing parallels to real-life racism can work with stronger depictions in certain works, I think the way it wound up being shown in Land Before Time really helped it get across more simply to younger audiences, and is thus why those of us who saw the film back as tiny tots were able to get the message without feeling like it was beating us over the head with it. Still, would be amazing to see the removed scenes restored in some capacity, even if it weren't able to be a flawlessly smooth cut of the entire production.

[@daisydaze2886]

The lost scenes (if they exist) need to be released in honor of Judith Barsi, the voice of Ducky, who was murdered by her abusive father at 10. Out of all the flims she did this one was her favorite and that Ducky was her favorite character to have done.

[@dreamguardian8320]

Too bad about East of the Sun and West of the Moon not being made, that might've been a good movie to see.

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

"oi, we want you to make cuts cos T-rex is too scary for kids." certainly less scary than what spielberg has done with kids thats for sure.

[@finchatforharambe905]

Wait waht

[@sgtmyers88]

Yet those same kids likely went and saw Jurassic Park made by him just a few years later. Lol

[@brandonlyon730]

It could also be interesting to see something similar with the pebble and the penguin, because of demands from MGM, a lot of stuff in that movie were also cut out, scenes, songs, characters, etc.

[@TheTrekkio]

I'll have to appreciate the effort you've put into this video. Very informative and interesting.

[@andreapatane4204]

This is interesting, because deleted scenes are awesome to observe these days.

[@nextgenwarrior]

God, I can never think of this movie and not get emotional. From it being such a big part of my childhood, I watched that damn VHS so many times, to having learned things such as the tragic death of Judith Barsi. The theme is enough to hit me in the feels.

[@frequentblondie]

This movie still makes me cry.

[@allyourpie4323]

I totally made it throught his whole video without tearing up. You know...totally. Yep yep yep....

[@tyjuarez]

Spielberg: Hey Don Bluth, that T-Rex might be a bit too scary, might want to cut some parts of the movie out with it. also Spielberg: Hey Phil Tippett, ILM just built a device that lets you animate a realistic dinosaur using a stop-motion model... wanna do a chase scene with a T-Rex?

[@elsakristina2689]

I haven’t seen the movie myself in a while but I recently saw a video of someone reacting to it and I almost forgot how dark it is and how cruel Cera can be. I hope the deleted scenes, if any survive, can be restored or at least recreated by some dedicated person or team. IMO the biggest issue with the deletions is that there’s a little less Judith Barsi content in the world. She had such a short life and everything she participated in should be fully preserved. She really loved acting. They even based Ducky’s personality and speech patterns on her own. I think Judith would have been disappointed to see some of her scenes cut.

[@bando-kun842]

I wish they kept the audio of Cera telling Topps that she and Littlefoot made their way to the Great Valley together. It would’ve reassured us as a younger audience that they had managed to settle their differences, well, Cera mostly. But I do like that she more or less did this in TLBT3, when her dad “forbids her from being friends with Littlefoot.

[@NeonStar02]

Awww man! It's Don!! ;3; He did a good job the film! ;3;

[@ScribblestoScreen]

Did you spot his performance in the video LOL 😂

[@dreamguardian8320]

Agreed.

[@peytonibarra8992]

Movie was my childhood. Literally crying right now typing this. Such a good film.

[@somepigsneverlearn]

Don Bluth is the reason that I went to animation school. I'll be graduating next year, and I want to make movies in the same vein as him. I have noticed quite a dip in cartoons (Thundercats Roar, Fangbone, etc.), and I want to make something quality.

[@JayFoxFire]

I wish you good luck :)

[@Skyfox3d]

First, I absolutely loved this video! Thank you! Second, at 23:48 during the Gary Goldman quote, it would seem you're using a picture of Gary Oldman lol.

[@Denaydena]

This was beautifully made. I applaud you on this video. TLBT was one of my favorite and most watched videos and franchises as a child. I was so excited to see this video. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[@bigpuma444]

“Seven more years until the 40th anniversary” Thanks for the reminder…

[@paulsiegfried6337]

Also I would love to see the uncut version of this movie 🎥 and all dogs go to heaven

[@pinkishhaven5158]

I'd give anything to watch 2D films of Don Bluth again. I love Disney, Dreamworks, Pixar, etc but all their movies recently seem to be lacking for some reason. I miss the darker color theme.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I think the reason that Disney, Dreamworks, and Pixar are lacking is because they are loosing the true magic of animation, creation, and storytelling they once had. 3D animation may be more quick and cheaper to create, but it dose not have the hand drawn magic 2D animation has. Neither do live action remakes. I too wish to see Don Bluth's 2D animation again. I had hopes of it coming back, when they announced the movie of Dragon's Lair coming up, but then I heard that it was going to be live and not 2D animated. Hopefully, Don Bluth will get another chance to make a new 2D animated movie, and bring the magic, wonder, and joy of 2D animation back into our lives. Only time will tell.

[@whitedragoness23]

Hmmm do a go fund me to raise money for another don bluth film? If he’s still alive that is

[@dreamguardian8320]

@@whitedragoness23 Surprisingly, he is still alive. His will power to open up a new studio, and bring back 2D animation must be keeping him alive.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

@@whitedragoness23 I would be all over that.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@dreamguardian8320 I saw some scenes of the old style animation and I was wow. I remember this, I have forgot how animation used to to. I recall it being dark and beautiful but I’ve seen too many films lighten up to appeal as a more wash down kid friendly movie. I was thinking last week how i wanted to see that animation again. That’s why in suggested raising money since money dictates what is made into a film or not Sadly Disney, and other studios feel that 3D animation is the way to go and the only way to prod off a film, it’s rare to see a well made animated film.

[@Freezient]

As a kid watching this i always felt there were some weird inconsistencies like something is missing, im glad i wasn’t the only one

[@MrTigroz]

Hearing Little Foot say “we have to kill him-“ is pretty hilarious

[@fieryphoenix586]

I honestly thought the beef Cera's father had with Longnecks had to do with "Longnecks" and "Three-horns" usually being kids favorite dinosaurs.

[@Jemmyleedoesart]

Thank you for this video, I never knew these scenes existed. The Land Before Time was one of my favourite films when I was little; I was obsessed with dinosaurs, and even still own my childhood teddy that I named Littlefoot. As tragic as it is, I am so so glad they kept his mother’s death in the film, it’s so important to the story. I currently have cancer and plan on showing this scene to my daughter if I can’t be cured, just to let her know she will be okay. Kid’s need to know death is a reality, but it is not the end 💖

[@birdybathtime389]

23:06 I wish that raya and the last dragon did that, the goal in the beginning was to find sisu and save everyone. I wish that they had shown raya going to each of the ends of the river and slowly loosing hope. And I wish sisu came around closer to the middle of the movie so we could get character development. Ack I went off but this is amazing and I’ve learned a bit about one of my favorite movies!

[@richardmoorcroft2178]

Brilliant really enjoyed 👍 very informative 😎

[@Tylerhopkins3106]

Loved the video, I used to watch The Land Before Time when I was a kid, this was one of my favorite movies, I always loved the scene at the end where they make it to the great valley!!!

[@ScribblestoScreen]

Certainly relieving that there long and difficult journey is over 😅 I certainly love how organic the dialogue is, they speak like real kids LOL

[@Tylerhopkins3106]

@@ScribblestoScreen Yes they do I used to watch this movie dozens of times and I would get the song If we hold on together stuck in my mind every time I watched it.

[@BoyKagome]

Eh, Little Foot finding the thing he wanted most... sacrificing the sure thing for a CHANCE to share it with his friends is arguably stronger. It also shows the rewards of taking the hard path vs the easy one.

[@asgerhyer5325]

The Land Before time is one of my all time favorites. So dark. I love it. Cry everytime the mom gets killed

[@WakoDoodle]

If it ever see's the day, it should be rereleased as "Land Before Time BC: Before Cuts". A standalone directors cut of what might of been. In a way, a sort of Land Before Time 0.

[@herpderp3916]

25:19 YOOOO I think I had that activity center computer game. At the very least, I remember a maze minigame where you had to go through without running into the sharptooth. I think it was turn based, so as you moved closer to it, the music would get quieter and the growls would get louder, until it appeared. It was terrifying.

[@Chachamaru15]

yeah, I remember that game too! It scared me as well when the sharptooth appeared! I also remember something about having to collect berries or something in that game? Idk

[@masterkriebel]

Found a video of the bramble maze: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGqnXqNvf9-Zn8U

[@vasglorious]

This was one of the first animated movies I remember watching as a kid, of course I'd love to see the original cut of The Land Before Time.

[@creekandseminole]

I remember seeing this in theaters when it came out. It wasn't like any other kids film I saw back then. I also saw An American Tail in theaters. Some of these old kids films were life changing honestly. Pretty real stuff if you get what I mean. They didn't hold back on a lot of places. They still have an impact on me at the age of 36.

[@dante4455]

seeing this in the cinema as a child must be crasy. at which points did you not hold back? what took you away from the film if i may ask

[@linisin2083]

Hearing ducky voice Gives me chills I'm pissed thinking of what happened to her.

[@axolotlmafia]

Little Foot's mom dying wrecked my childhood. I found out some time after that, that I was adopted. The animation however, and the story itself etched itself so deep in my heart that to this day I can't see Little foot's sad face or hear the theme song without crying. It was so beautifully done, and an absolute treasure.

[@dante4455]

I understand you i have the same problem with * water ship down*

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

Don Bluth's films really moved me as a child. One of the first animated movies I ever saw was Secret of NIMH. It had a lasting impact. Still one of my favorite animated features.

[@peterhingle1385]

My grandfather was the voice of Rooter and the narrator.

[@lisapeesalemonsqueezah3241]

I love that they had psychologists come on to recommend they include the old man dinosaur. Such a touching moment.

[@DJYoue]

I love that you listed my Instagram as Domin_chia rather than China 🤣 (either way I've changed it now) but glad to be a part of this project!

[@BoboMcBooboy]

Just found your channel! Loved this video, and looks like an interesting backlog of videos! Definitely earned a new subscriber! Hope to see your channel grow!!