Man stop crying and be grateful you guys kill me about tanking you got pro players they don't want to tank
@Phoguy24Ай бұрын
@williamstevenson3270 yup and fans like us still enjoy winning. Alot elite qb wasn't top 10 picks. In my opinion qb in this draft doesn't seem to be all that great.
@marctorres2759Ай бұрын
@@Phoguy24 yeah, cause the raiders have been winning a lot over the past 10 years. 😂
@seandykes5157Ай бұрын
@@Phoguy24could of had a rookie on a rookie deal. Instead we will sign Cousins for 60 mil or something stupid.
@dbow2535Ай бұрын
I'm disappointed in you Alex. These guys are professionals and play every week to win. You should be proud of the fact that this team stuck together and continued to fight. You want your team to lose on purpose? What do you think these players and coaches think of that. Luckily probably nothing!!! You never know what the future brings. But asking them to lose is a HORRIBLE precedent to set. The fact they are still fighting should excite you for the future!!!!
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
The players don’t tank but we need to focus on our future and beating a terrible Jacksonville team that looked like they wanted to lose isn’t doing this franchise any good. We should have been winning games two months ago not now!!
@dbow2535Ай бұрын
@@raideralexofficial Agreed, but our coaches decided to start Minshew which set this team back. It appears we have changed our direction with the firing of our OC. And AOC has been injured a couple of times. If Jacksonville wants to lose, they can continue their losing culture. But we are trying to build a winning culture, and I believe we will. You don't know what our future will be. There are a lot of players that have excelled from later rounds. But tanking is a bad precedent to the whole franchise
@elsalsero417Ай бұрын
@@dbow2535 I'm disappointed in fans who don't see the big picture. You think the redskins and their fans are pissed about Jayden Daniels. They TANKED for him. Tanking is part of sports. You establish a losing culture when you don't use every measure to start winning. In the Raiders case, they needed to address the qb position and other positions.
@TheAutumnWind_RN4LАй бұрын
@elsalsero417 thank you.
@TheAutumnWind_RN4LАй бұрын
What is it about football fans, man? We get caught up in the emotions of the game and stop thinking logically because we're "fan"atics? Teams in the NBA rest starters to prevent injury so they can win the games that count and push for championships. That is basically losing on purpose. When the best teams have clinched the #1 seed, or if their seeding is set, they rest their starters to avoid injury because their eyes are set on the big picture: win the Superbowl, not meaningless games in January. When teams are out of the picture to make the playoffs, they are sellers at the trade deadline, so they trade away great players to contenders in order to make room in the salary cap for next year. That's losing on purpose. That's a plan. It's not looked upon as a blight to their reputation because it's a smart business practice. What Mark allowed his coach to do Sunday was not. And that is why we continue to be a laughing stock of a franchise.
Ай бұрын
When winning feels like losing
@ernestbiagi2558Ай бұрын
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY SOMEONE HAS TO WIN JUST WIN BABY IS OUR. MANTRA. JUST LOVE IT BABY
@marctorres2759Ай бұрын
@@ernestbiagi2558 love what? Winning a game against a very bad team? They didn’t look good in this win, and now they lose lots of leverage going forward. Enjoy your hollow victory. When the raiders are back in the bottom of the division next year, let me know how good this pre season victory was. 😂
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
It’s on any given day
@robertpena9293Ай бұрын
We just can't make this up ,well my hopes of seeing a super bowl before I go is out the window just glad I got to witness all 3 we did win
@TonyWilliams-TRLАй бұрын
I was barely 6 months old since we WON our last one(so no,I didn't SEE it)but I was alive lol
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
After getting Plunkett, they been looking for a quarterback that’s the last QB to win a Super Bowl 40 years ago they haven’t found one yet🏆🏆🏆
@im7700Ай бұрын
Since you're OBVIOUSLY not a Raiders fan, you don't know that Rich Gannon became a league MVP in the early 2000s winning 3 straight AFC West under the leadership of our amazing ex coach Jon Gruden aka "Chucky" after being a journeyman QB throughout his career. Btw, there's no guarantee that either Sanders or Ward are going to be good. There's been dozens and dozens of 1st round QB selections that have been BUSTS so...
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
@ I got to see that organization win three Super Bowls how about you? You’re a raider fan that never got to see them win a Super Bowl.🏆🏆🏆
@bikinisforever4163Ай бұрын
Carr and Gannon are our best QB's historically. We were great in the 70's and 80's thanks largely to our defense, not QB.
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
@ did you ever get to see the Raiders win a Super Bowl?
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
@ Carr or Gannon never won a Super Bowl snake and Plunkett won Super Bowls 🏆🏆🏆
@slijackson353Ай бұрын
thank you guys from a Jaguars fan
@anthonybender3224Ай бұрын
You never play to lose f the tanking we have aQB AOC
@Cleanelco9118Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@kyleshephard3580Ай бұрын
As a Browns fan I’ve been absolutely loving this raider nation meltdown … thanks for the qb
@elsalsero417Ай бұрын
For all those who keep saying we needed to win. What are you going to be saying if the Raiders get another 3-4round QB. Are you going to be complaining about Aidan as the QB. Look at the teams who drafted QBs in top last year. They tanked and look at the result. No trades at the top 3 last year. Unless telesco wants Beck who imo, fits the QB he likes. Tall qb, whos played in in big games.
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
Exactly
@SpecialAgentEBunnyАй бұрын
Remember the last time we had the #1 pick? I’ll take the win.
@elsalsero417Ай бұрын
@@SpecialAgentEBunny there was nobody in that jamarcus Russell draft. All those QBs were awful. Didn't matter what round. This class has two possible franchise QBs and when the Raiders miss out on both, your going to be the one complaining we still don't have one. This meaningless win cost us the first pick of every round and may have cost the coaching staff the opportunity to coach in the senior bowl.
@TheAutumnWind_RN4LАй бұрын
What does last time have to do with this time? We have a different owner, a different general manager, a different head coach, different personnel, different stadium, in a different city. Literally nothing is the same. That's a cop out mentality that I'm tired of hearing.
@marctorres2759Ай бұрын
@@SpecialAgentEBunny So what’s your point? Give up on the draft entirely? The Raiders are better off picking at 6 and not 1? Cmon man, smarten up.
@reddinfaАй бұрын
Sorry bro but you sound dumb
@SpecialAgentEBunnyАй бұрын
@@marctorres2759 maybe they are. I’d rather have Brock Bowers than anyone else we could’ve drafted. No pick is a sure thing. Win what you can and let fate decide
@eddiediaz3731Ай бұрын
Your comments pollute the raiders...any man who has been on the grid iron wants to win
@TheKilliluminati26 күн бұрын
Man thats the most stupid win ever lmao. If they wanted to win they should’ve started at the beginning of the year 🤦♂️
@TheAutumnWind_RN4LАй бұрын
How does tanking work with gambling? There has to be a reason Mark didn't put his foot down and say lose this game. Does Fan Duel and Caesars incentivize ownership not to throw games?
@youin24yearsАй бұрын
Bro… why can’t you people understand this… THEY WERE NEVER TANKING!!! RAIDERS ARE JUST TERRIBLE!!! STILL COULDN’T SCORE PAST 20!!! SAD!!!
@TheAutumnWind_RN4LАй бұрын
@@youin24years that's depressing. So AOC really clapped to get everyone set. Damn.
@elridgealexander5502Ай бұрын
Sugarcane Up We Raiders we don't TANK we will be fine : AP needs his job :. Giants TANKED DISGUSTING We don't need the first (2).Picks we will get HEISMAN winner !
@BigBrueserАй бұрын
The Patriots are drafting Travis Hunter, numb nuts…
@elridgealexander5502Ай бұрын
Grow Up
@FREDRICKG85Ай бұрын
AOC is are QB!!!!!
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
Till we draft an elite 1🤣🤣
@darrenwheat681Ай бұрын
Carson Beck is next years Bo Nix. I looked at Nix last year and thought it was unbelievable that he was not a first round picks. A lot of teams are going to make a huge mistake passing on this guy, including the Raiders.
@edgar6674110Ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more
@BoGooden-jt3xuАй бұрын
A lot of guys are playing for their jobs or better contracts so they’re not gonna tank.
@tomhecocks4886Ай бұрын
Anyone that wanted to tank should go and root for some other team. Real Raider fans never want to lose
@BigBrueserАй бұрын
Lolll all you get is losing…
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
As Al Davis said “the greatness of the raiders lies within its future” this was a season where you supposed to prepare for the future!!!
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
@@c.thomas5128Well I've been on this roller-coaster of sadness for about 20 years. Been a lot of bad decision making at the top and not so great coaching coupled with a bottom 5 defense for DC broke his leg. I don't have all the answers but releasing DC, and JJ for nothing was stupid so we trade an unhappy Adams. Pierce was damn near tampering last year with the qb he wanted. I hear there are some ruffled feathers between Davis and Telesco, this draft will show who's pushing the the buttons. AP out here cooking on a Habachi, with no seasoning, give him a full year. With all this turnover nothing will change until we have some sort of stability on the field and up in the GM box. Thoughts on the draft? Grab Jennty and Dart in the 2nd
@SpecialAgentEBunnyАй бұрын
We drafted Jamarcus Russell last time we had the #1 pick
@IrateRaiderАй бұрын
Agreed!! Just Win Baby
@almo5086Ай бұрын
Well Tmac or Jeanty would be pretty sweet in a raiders uniform lol. 😂
@bikinisforever4163Ай бұрын
You do realize tanking is against NFL policy, right? They can take your draft pick away if they suspect something.
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
Literally every year atleast one team does it. It’s not that hard, once you realize your team is terrible you bench your starting QB and your star players and 9/10 you have tanked successfully. If we had started desmond Ridder or Carter Bradley we would have gone 2-15
@BiggYTRAIDERАй бұрын
Yesterday proves just how incompetent we really are as a team. We could not even lose for the greater good. But we will do whatever it takes to get better. BULLSHIT. We got to be the dumbest team in the nfl.
@BoGooden-jt3xuАй бұрын
A lot of these guys are playing for their jobs or better contracts so they’re not gonna tank
@ShimaUta86Ай бұрын
Fans wanting professional players to tank is diabolical. I dare you to say it to their faces to go lose at their job.
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
@@ShimaUta86 it more should be that the front office and coaching staff get together and commit to playing young guys who don’t give you the best chance to win but it will allow you to evaluate talent and likely get the best pick possible. The NY giants players aren’t quitting either but they got rid of their QB so it is damn near impossible for these players to win at this point. Raiders should have started Ridder and we likely would have lost
@ShimaUta86Ай бұрын
@ here’s the thing. Majority of the roster aren’t guaranteed to comeback next season. As a player or coach, you’re gonna want to shine and have that on your resume. Fans are selfish and don’t see it that way. Players/coaches will always try to win whether you like it or not regardless of draft pick.
@rickyherrera2179Ай бұрын
Why are we acting like we are good at drafting.... The last QB we took at #1 was the great jamarcus russel...
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
That was on Al Davis and we all know it. Telesco actually isn't senile and has shown he can DRAFT actual good talent.
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
@@CopenorMcbrokeleg Well Al didn't draft. Abrams, Ruggs, Leatherwood, Ferrell, Arnette. Bowers is the 1st one we hit on in a while fix the o-line and bring in competition for AOC best man wins💪🏾💪🏾🏴☠️🏴☠️☠️☠️
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@ronnellponder9645 Bring in competition for Aidan... Like Minshew right? 🤣🤣 It's time to stop settling for vets or backup tier QBs to be starters, the team needs to draft a real collegiate QB with an actual higher floor and ceiling to develop with legit coaches to make them actual franchise QB. This commitment to mediocrity bullshit needs to stop.
@CamCold-n7dАй бұрын
@@ronnellponder9645 those players were drafted in different regimes telsco is actually pretty solid at drafting he drafted bowers, and jpj with the little time he had given him a full off-season and I think he can cook up sum even with the 6th or 7th pick
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
@@CamCold-n7d I'm OK with TT . I Just know he doesn't like 2 move up. I think he was handcuffed a lot by Daddy Spanos
@abdullahanselin8474Ай бұрын
How you gunna root for the raiders to lose, you disrespect the players, the coaches, the NFL and the game of football.
@marctorres2759Ай бұрын
fans that are happy with this win are so dumb. they dont see the big picture. their the same fans thatll continue to complain when they continue to lose in the near future, yet not realizing why they continue to lose.
@TenDayBenderАй бұрын
FACTS
@bobjones5825Ай бұрын
Nah you don't see the picture. This team was never tanking. That was delusional stuff fans came up with to cope with how bad this team is. The coaches and players are playing for their careers. None of them are trying to lose. Plus you act like it's not possible we draft a QB that busts. This QB class is bad and ward or sanders are not going to save whatever bad teams they go to.
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@bobjones5825 They're not necessarily going to save whatever teams they go to, but they are the best possible QBs to draft and for a bad team like the Raiders, they will be an upgrade even in the short term unless they're massive busts like Jawalrus Russell. I'd rather take the risk on actual legit QBs that may be overranked in the first round than sticking with eternal backup AOC or signing a washed up vet like Cousins for a year or two plodding along and staying in purgatory.
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
@@bobjones5825This man told no lies. Yes we still need a qb but the draft is imperfect. These men put there bodies on the line every week, I celebrate every win they earned it. AOC playing for his career, and playing us out of a qb he didn't get the memo😂😂☠️☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
@RustyShackleford2013Ай бұрын
Fans who think sanders is going to come in and save this franchise are just as dumb
@rexrandall33Ай бұрын
I am not sure who you are disappointed in? Players and coaches are not going to tank…you can’t even ask AP to tank if he is going to be the HC next year if he wants to keep the locker room.
@terryadams8300Ай бұрын
THEY NEVER HAD THE NUMBER 1 PICK
@hunglam1241Ай бұрын
unless they plan on starting O'Conner next year, this win is a loss.
@stephenadams7663Ай бұрын
Raiders will win 4 games next season. Been a raider over 40 years, I'm tired of this shit . I'm done .
@eddogg805Ай бұрын
We can't even lose right...😂
@darrenwheat681Ай бұрын
CARSON BECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@marcusromero8386Ай бұрын
Thanks you for winning
@gregorytyussr4570Ай бұрын
Yes they did 🤬
@MaximusdeciimusАй бұрын
Thats why this team won't even win the division
@bikinisforever4163Ай бұрын
Beating the lowly Jaguars, shocking! This stupidity is making me laugh. What did you want our players to do, run backwards? The Jags are as bad as we are, I am not surprised by this win, at all.
@berendoballbomber5977Ай бұрын
The Jags were a bad team and the Raiders looked has bad. I think AP was fighting for his job for next year. That's why AOC was playing AP knew the team wouldn't tank has long the Offense was moving the ball so Raiders will be not a good team in the future since they would to had to tank. Your right Alex the team needed to tank for that n#1 or #2 draft pick. Telesco will have to get Fields or pay Sam Darnold 40 million in FA . It sucks that the Raiders ruin there chance to get top QB in draft but that's Telesco job not AP job was to win.
@Phoguy24Ай бұрын
Just wait for arch manning 😂
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
Don't be surprised if he declares for the 2027 draft, have fun waiting for that one.
@Phoguy24Ай бұрын
@CopenorMcbrokeleg you act like we re going anywhere. We have been losing so many seasons. 3 more years wouldn't hurt 😂
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@Phoguy24 While I'd love to get Arch whenever he's out, the team needs to get it's shit together. It hasn't had an actual good QB in so many years and I don't even hate Carr but he was never all that great outside his 2016 season before he got injured. I just want the team to get a real good rookie QB for next year to develop into a potential franchise QB. If that doesn't work, keep at it every year until it happens.
@gregorytyussr4570Ай бұрын
Why we want get him Neather
@Phoguy24Ай бұрын
@CopenorMcbrokeleg I feel you bro. I don't think this qb class is not all that great, in my opinion. We can still win before arch declared for the draft. Arch can change the whole culture in our organization for many years to come. Imagine getting favorable calls because of him 😂
@tonygalvan9512Ай бұрын
It's not AP. It's starts at top dude. Davis needs to sell his team. Curse is on this team.
@billydavis-b2lАй бұрын
just win baby
@JustAnotherPuzzlePieceАй бұрын
This is how BAD franchises stay BAD!
@IrateRaiderАй бұрын
Not sold on Shedaur. He holds ball too long. He's taken to many hits already in college. He's already talking like an old boxer that's been hit in the head to many times. Let the Giants have him. This year's QB draft class not that great.
@dwhoop7045Ай бұрын
People like you was probably not sold on Jayden Daniels
@charlesrazo7246Ай бұрын
Just to show you, they’re not trying to tank. They’re just a bad team.
@abdullahanselin8474Ай бұрын
Stop cheerin for your team to lose disrespectful
@javierdeanda9958Ай бұрын
Ward, Ewers or Gabriel
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
Beck maybe available as well even as low as the third or fourth round.
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
If Ward isn't there take Dart in the 2nd. No Milroe, Beck, or Ewers we will be in the same situation with an average qb.
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@ronnellponder9645 I'm of the opinion I think Milroe, Beck, and Ewers have a higher ceiling than any of our current QBs though. Beck especially due to his past season with Brock even if Beck is currently injured and also not that good with Brock gone from UGA.
@ronnellponder9645Ай бұрын
@CopenorMcbrokeleg Not sure how much college u watch but, I catch key games with that being said. Milroe is Richardson 2.0 , Beck has is average with an NFL team around him and he's now hurt. I seen Dart out there doing read options on a bad wheel. Ewers is running 2 the NFL because Arch is on his heels, but he shrinks in high pressure moments. We need someone who can stand up 2 those bright lights in Vegas
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@ronnellponder9645 And despite that I think all of them are still capable of being better than AOC, Minshew, or Ridder. They're not ideal, but they are options in the 2nd or later rounds to pick up. They can be equally as bad as they are good if they are developed properly to whichever NFL team picks them up, it remains to be seen. Point is, the Raiders need to pick up a QB in the draft whoever it is to develop, make it a yearly habit so that they can make a real attempt to developing a franchise QB a multi-year process.
@TheTaionАй бұрын
He know he will get fire so he fucky up the draft
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
That is the only bright side to this. I wanted AP gone since early this season, he's not even worthy to be a division 2 collegiate head coach. Sooner he gets fired and the Toms can find a better person to be HC for the team the better.
@Ryan_The_Champutee_WallaceАй бұрын
19 points against a trash team at the cost of controlling the draft is so utterly devastating. This team had so many chances to be middle of the pack and silence this talk but they didn't. Then they were in position to salvage this nightmare season but failed. This organization refuses to give its fanbase hope.
@Domgrove_5Ай бұрын
I knew this shit was going to happen. It never fails SMH. SO TIRED of this shit
@dbow2535Ай бұрын
NY Giants are looking for new fans. I can't get on board with anyone asking the team to lose!!! They bust their ass every week to win. Thats what build winners!!
@chrissylvester880Ай бұрын
They blew it 😢😢
@itzmoney2390Ай бұрын
I believe sanders told giants he not going there that’s why raiders won
@marcusromero8386Ай бұрын
Bro he was playing catch with Malik also Deion already said he don’t care if he goes to New York
@matthewpohl6272Ай бұрын
Doesnt work like that
@orlandoalvarez3103Ай бұрын
facts, beating a trash team and now you might have missed out on a potential franchise level QB. U really think Minshew or AOC are SB bound QB's
@zay222TrueАй бұрын
When we finally have a QB THAT WANNA BE A RAIDERS we just win a meaningful game I just hope we trade up (trade Wilson n our 1st round pick)
@matthewpohl6272Ай бұрын
Next move, keeping an inexperienced coach who doesn't know Jack about coaching in the NFL.. lol just winning and making this team the laughing stock of the NFL
@IrvinGarcia-m8cАй бұрын
All coaches are inexperienced their first year
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@IrvinGarcia-m8c That went over your own head. Pierce had 2 years of NFL coaching before being elevated as interim HC. Compare that to all the other head coaches of all the other NFL teams in the league only counting NFL COACHING EXPERIENCE.
@IrvinGarcia-m8cАй бұрын
@CopenorMcbrokeleg I see now... I googled first time head coach experience. I was wrong.. fire Pierce
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
@@IrvinGarcia-m8c Honestly I think Pierce may have had that absolute fastest elevation to a NFL HC with the least amount of experience in NFL coaching I've seen. Scary part is that it can be toppled if Coach Prime decides to make his NFL coaching jump at some point in the future.
@66Books40AuthorsАй бұрын
Disband this team already. Put us out of our misery
@frankv3483Ай бұрын
I want everyone fired for this win.
@StevenRamirez-qq4pzАй бұрын
Fire AP because lack of awareness. Bad coaching and bad decisions.
@zay222TrueАй бұрын
Never thought a win piss me off more than this one 😂
@joemelendez9790Ай бұрын
The Giants seem to be tanking on purpose. They want that top pick to get a Qb. I dont see the point in winning these last game either.
@abelgomez_XIVАй бұрын
Not only are they bad they are re tarded……f this team …boycott this garbage organization
@alp852Ай бұрын
It’s getting harder and harder to be a Raiders fan. This franchise always finds a way to shoot themselves in the foot.
@StevenRamirez-qq4pzАй бұрын
Fire AP 🔥 . I felt bad not anymore. He's doesn't make good decisions. He must know he not going to be coaching next year😮😅
@harveybjackson203Ай бұрын
AOC played well, no need to draft a QB/RB/Receiver period
@raideralexofficialАй бұрын
we played against one of the worst teams in the league and it looked like they were purposely trying to lose at times. This win is no real true assessment for AOC and this team in general for this W
@CopenorMcbrokelegАй бұрын
Delusional take. This wasn't the AOC that played Black Friday either. It was one that played for his job and was fortunate the Jags weren't trying to win as much as not making it blatantly obvious they too wanted to tank but subtly.
@matthewpohl6272Ай бұрын
Here comes 30 more years of nonsense.... way to go.... winning games that don't matter.
@TenDayBenderАй бұрын
Ap thinks his job is gonna be saved if he wins😂😂😂toothfairy and santa are real too
@DamienKekahunaАй бұрын
Sabotage
@DamienKekahunaАй бұрын
I'm so sick of the raiders doing stupid shit coach did it on purpose he knows he's on his way out