The Las Vegas Raiders Have An Extremely Stacked Roster With A Huge Quarterback Dilemma

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@X-Saruman
@X-Saruman Ай бұрын
Last 5 games AOC went 9TD 1 interception. He’s accurate, can read defenses, has very little ego, and beat the shit out of the division. He recognizes the situation and keeps rising. He’s the dude, we see it, that’s what the players say, and the administration is all in. Still, people talk shit and just assume he’s a nobody. That’s just not the case. He’s real. We’re com’n. Appreciate you talking Raiders, pretty optimistic take all things considered.
@R8erRay510
@R8erRay510 Ай бұрын
Bru like 6 of those TD's came on a team that quit on their coach not to mention he kept starting drives in scoring position cuz our defense was going crazy & a meaningless game against a team playing for draft position while we were playing for AP job The real AOC is the guy that got shut out coming off a bye week, couldn't complete a pass for 3 quarters in a NFL game fuckin pathetic & couldn't sustain a drive for shit in a game with our playoff lives on the line AOC sucks we're in for a big reality check if he starts, at least with Minshew we have somewhat of a chance
@brandonhopkins5241
@brandonhopkins5241 Ай бұрын
@@R8erRay510hmmm an AOC with no reps, being thrown into the fire as their head coach got fired, and still played his ass off and you pick ONE game where he didn’t complete a pass for three quarters🤔 If he’s ass then why are the players standing behind him?
@R8erRay510
@R8erRay510 Ай бұрын
@@brandonhopkins5241 cuz they're teammates genius lol Like bro there's many games AOC was trash n shit the bed, MIN, IND, MIA just off the top of my head besides the Chiefs game & the two games he played well we're against a team that quit on their coach n where our defense had like 5 turnovers n against a team playing for nothing except draft position while we played for our coaches job not impressed at all
@brandonhopkins5241
@brandonhopkins5241 Ай бұрын
@@R8erRay510 All games with AOC have been competitive. If a team quit its because we made them. Not to mention he had half a playbook to work off of still pretty much under the McDumbass system. Like I said bro didn’t even have the reps and it doesn’t matter how “genius” the other players are if the qb can’t throw. You’re going to tell me that Jimmy G is better than AOC? Gardner has just as much to prove as AOC. If AOC can play “good enough” considering the new weapons we have around him and a new playbook we could make it and even win a playoff game. I’m not saying AOC is the definitive future for us(that has yet to be seen) but I’m at least going to give him a fighting chance considering the much more competitive games we were able to put up.
@R8erRay510
@R8erRay510 Ай бұрын
@@brandonhopkins5241 stop bro that team quit on Staley man that was obvious they didn't even try that game was more about them than us n just cuz every game was competitive that doesn't mean anything for AOC it wasn't competitive cuz of him besides the chargers n broncos game where one team quit n the other was meaningless he was doing nothing he never flashed that he could be the guy not once When did I ever say Jimmy was better than AOC lol & Minshew does have as much to prove this is his last chance to be a starter in this league if he loses a QB battle to AOC he's a career backup AOC is learning a new offense again, he's a statue, the OL is concerning at this point, go with the vet who will pick up the offense faster, make something happen with his legs if it breaks down, his best stats are in the system our OC runs Let AOC develop behind him, if Minshew sucks AOC comes in more developed with a better chance to succeed you feed him to the Harbaugh bros the first two weeks we regret that guaranteed
@tonyg4546
@tonyg4546 Ай бұрын
Bo Nix has proved nothing. I'm sick of people giving the broncos to much credit. The Raiders have beat the Broncos both games in the last 3 years 🧹🧹🧹 let the media overlook the Raiders
@coreystanley1771
@coreystanley1771 Ай бұрын
They do that for two reasons, the media hates us & the love for Sean Payton. You're right, let em sleep on us
@Twoshots408
@Twoshots408 Ай бұрын
We're gonna shock the world RNFL
@Clappped
@Clappped Ай бұрын
@@Twoshots408no your not no one is scared of the raiders
@Twoshots408
@Twoshots408 Ай бұрын
@@Clappped sit back and watch buddy ima remember this comment bro
@Clappped
@Clappped Ай бұрын
@@Twoshots408 you have only 2 10+ winning seasons 2 of the last 8 years. Write it down, remember it, get a tattoo about it.
@adrianeedwards3201
@adrianeedwards3201 Ай бұрын
As long as Devonte Adams has a QB that doesn't put him in harms way to me, it doesn't matter which one of them starts the game!
@decalphotos2295
@decalphotos2295 Ай бұрын
ao put him in harms way a lot last year
@GasparArriagajr-ym2pr
@GasparArriagajr-ym2pr Ай бұрын
Very true
@raiderwolf2066
@raiderwolf2066 Ай бұрын
AO gonna be the starter and he's going to be very good. Anyone who doesn't believe in him is sleeping.
@R8erRay510
@R8erRay510 Ай бұрын
I'm snoring then AOC is trash bru most fans fooling themselves thinking he gonna be something he has lifetime back-up QB written all over him
@TheRaidersfan16
@TheRaidersfan16 Ай бұрын
Neither Qb is an immediate superstar…but the situation isn’t as dire as it’s painted. O’Connell played on half a playbook, no offseason snaps as a starter, a rookie oc, and an interim HC. Not going to say he’s the next Peyton Manning, but he COULD be the next Flacco.
@jermainemarshall4575
@jermainemarshall4575 Ай бұрын
Dude is 3 years younger than Stroud and is the same age as Lamar and you expect him to catch up to these dudes nah if was starting Qb material he wouldn't have been in college 6 years.
@R8erRay510
@R8erRay510 Ай бұрын
Thank you he'll be a 26yo second year starter he's only two years younger than Minshew AOC has career back-up QB written all over him ​@@jermainemarshall4575
@decalphotos2295
@decalphotos2295 Ай бұрын
He played with half a playbook bc he didn’t understand the playbook and they had to cut it down. ao did not flash TOP TIER talent, many people say he’ll be alright if given xyz. We went thru 9 years of DC and excuses, why would so many want to go down that path again with subpar/average at best qb performance? Improve the qb talent and this team does so much better. If the off is not able to sustain drives how good will our defense be when they’re in the field 35+ minutes a game?
@decalphotos2295
@decalphotos2295 Ай бұрын
@@jermainemarshall4575thank you for that!!!
@decalphotos2295
@decalphotos2295 Ай бұрын
We should hope for more than average at best qbs. Just go get a highly talented qb that we can all see the talent and not have to say well he’s a rookie or he can get better if…
@vaiholapohiva1321
@vaiholapohiva1321 Ай бұрын
AOC
@jwdecosta
@jwdecosta Ай бұрын
All around my thoughts exactly except for QB. I think Aiden and Minshew are even right now so I expect AOC to move quickly ahead and IS MY GUY going forward.
@randallhayes-in9yy
@randallhayes-in9yy Ай бұрын
It's nice hearing what I've been saying all along,were going to be very good and we're going to start off with kicking.the chargers ass,up and down the field!
@johnq.8167
@johnq.8167 Ай бұрын
Position by position I think the Raiders stand up to any team in the league. The QB’s from this past draft are not all locks to go to the HOF so I didn’t lose sleep especially when you see Bowers highlight reel. Can’t wait to see what AOC or Minshew can do with these skill players. Even if one of the QB’s throw a pick, the Raiders defense will get the ball right back!!
@brandonmitchell6351
@brandonmitchell6351 Ай бұрын
As a chargers fan, I gotta admit the raiders have a good roster. McDaniels was worse than Staley. Raiders fans will tell you the same
@pathonnn
@pathonnn Ай бұрын
McDaniels was a terrible coach/leader. His interviews made me what to punch the tv. Said the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
@chroday3419
@chroday3419 Ай бұрын
the important part for me is that we keep Adams, he's gonna be a key piece to (hopefully) getting a ring
@raiderswish
@raiderswish Ай бұрын
I watched garner minshee put the ball into the hands of the playmakers on the colts. Pittman is a baller and his numbers continued to look good. I'm confident he'll knock it out the park with all these ballers we have in offense. Our WR is stacked
@ChristopherBanville-gh5cj
@ChristopherBanville-gh5cj Ай бұрын
We should have top 10 defense maybe top 5
@danstephensen9032
@danstephensen9032 Ай бұрын
Plz DO NOT bring Prescott to RaiderVille. HIS mental toughness in pressure situations is VERY SUSPECT- We DO NOT need him.
@maryreyna2355
@maryreyna2355 26 күн бұрын
Raiders need to rebuild! As an older fan that wants them to win again I say tear it down and rebuild. Gruden and McDaniels really damaged the Raiders future. We are 2-3 years away.
@gasmandl
@gasmandl Ай бұрын
Raiders cheerleaders look a lot better these days too
@xxxraided4457
@xxxraided4457 Ай бұрын
First time I’ve heard you speak on KZbin. Die hard Raider fan hear! Been one since they were the LA Raiders when I was a kid in California. I just want to say you are a natural at this and enjoyed listening to your channel.
@APST21
@APST21 Ай бұрын
@@xxxraided4457 Thank you so much
@deoznichols5162
@deoznichols5162 Ай бұрын
They can have a winning season and that would be a great start 10-11 games is possible.
@userthis-eternity
@userthis-eternity 3 күн бұрын
Just win baby, not getting any younger
@THEJavelinX
@THEJavelinX Ай бұрын
No qb dilemma, AOC is the guy.
@ryanfrazier5604
@ryanfrazier5604 Ай бұрын
Look for the raider trading for dak if that defense stay solid like last year dak will fit nicely
@guadalupepadilla2451
@guadalupepadilla2451 Ай бұрын
Raider Nation !!
@catsal5073
@catsal5073 Ай бұрын
10 or more wins
@hummervs3278
@hummervs3278 Ай бұрын
I disagree Minshew being better than O'Connell. He has been at it a few years longer but that is it. Compare the two in college games. Aiden scrambled better, but @Raiders he was told to stay in the pocket so he did more than he normally would. Aiden has better aim, and throws about 5 yards more with that accuracy. Go watch the tape. Compare them. Maybe since Minshew got stronger playing in the nfl he now improved his distance but his games like the Colts did not show it. Most his longest balls went bad. Here is our biggest problem- Aiden is like Carr and like Brady in that they are all pocket passers. Pocket passers depend on a great O-line which we haven’t had in 20 years. Sure we had one amazing lineman but only one at a time. Miller currently.Having a GOOD O-line is enough to get you to a playoff game at best. And when DC4 had great receiver to throw to and the oline was good- thkse are when we got to a play off game. If you want to WIN play off games we need top 5 oline to give pocket passers the time to stay in the pocket and make it. Watch what happens to Mahomeless when his Oline is doing poor from injuries- they loose. And he has pocket passer accuracy with insane scrambling ability. Because they could not get a better QB- they went best available player and that was our new TE which then means with two really good TE, we can go in the 12 a lot of the time to give the qb some blocking help or secondary check down help. Look up the time Tom TUCK Brady had in the pocket and compare that to Aiden so far. Remember brady had years on the bench to learn everything behind the scenes and devolop his skills. Once he hit the nfl field he was light years above his college level. Aiden hasn’t had that but it was McDummy’s plan to do that with him. Aiden is 90% what brady was coming out of college. He doesn’t have the arm strength but has better accuracy than he did . Thats why they got him. Give Aiden the Lineman and he will perform with these amazing TE and the best WR in the league -17.
@thekyletk
@thekyletk Ай бұрын
Raiders are hoping to replicate the Case Keenum led Vikings.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
They're trying to replicate Kirk Cousins most likely.
@olgarivera3001
@olgarivera3001 Ай бұрын
Aiden oconnell
@ydiaz8080
@ydiaz8080 Ай бұрын
Number 12. The drafted Raider!
@adrianboria5633
@adrianboria5633 Ай бұрын
everybody thinks this we got a bad quarterback room. You guys went around to see certain things. Jim Plunkett didn't have great numbers. The reason why he was good is because he had a great defense that can carry his ass in the super bowls. His best year was 20 touchdowns, 18 interceptions. What does that tell you? Not good but enough to win. Winning is all that matters. . Look. Dan Marino greatest NFL quarterback to ever live. Was he off the show for it? Nothing. It's all the best stats. All the touchdowns but stats don't win you games do they. A great defense and a smart enough quarterback will when super bowls
@TheBlackHole2024
@TheBlackHole2024 29 күн бұрын
😂 different players, different times. Those teams would beat this team into next week. Plunkett is like Flacco, Eli, once they get into the playoffs they shine. Regular season was a struggle but show time they balled out. Those teams were 💯 better than these teams today. There's no more Ravens, Bears, Tampa, defenses were your QB was just asked not to turn it over and punt. The Raiders defense is good but there's defenses just as good or better. Then it comes down to which QB can make plays in those games.
@nathanmaize8007
@nathanmaize8007 Ай бұрын
We beat the chiefs and whipped the chargers swept the broncos
@Omar-ni5sf
@Omar-ni5sf Ай бұрын
No matter they might want to spin it they had no intention of heading into the season with this QB room. To quote Antonio Pierce:""I would hope whoever we draft, that's the route we go, that's who the starter becomes ..." . Unfortunately no one dropped to them. Now, they could just swallow their pride and grabbing a guy like Ryan Tanehill still sitting out there.Instead they seem determined to move foward with a backup and developmental prospect into week 1. Complete fail for a team with veteran guys and enough talent to want to win now.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
Did you ever stop to think that the coaching staff might know what they're doing? Most of the fans denigrating AOC have never even seen him play once in college but they're experts based on a half-season when he was thrown to the wolves and hadn't even taken any reps as a starter and was using a truncated playbook with a first time OC. I don't know about AOC any better than anyone else but I did watch him play some in college and he has talent, his best trait is accuracy and he has a good arm. I think we did the right thing in not giving up a ton of assets for the 4-6 best QB prospect and if AOC doesn't pan out Minshew will start and it'll be back to the drawing board next year, it sucks but that's reality. He moved around the pocket pretty well in college but it looked like he was told to look for the first 2 reads or get rid of the ball and avoid turning the ball over so it's hard to figure out what he'll look like this year. I have a feeling he's better than the staff thought he was and they're going to give him a shot this year and that's the right move. He did his part and transformed his body and spent the entire off season at the facility so we should see by the 5-6th week.
@kami1
@kami1 Ай бұрын
Bro said Ryan Tannehill, a worse QB than Nathan Peterman. Stop it
@Omar-ni5sf
@Omar-ni5sf Ай бұрын
@@jameshannagan4256 Response was well thought out. Problem is Raiders schedule 1st 5 weeks is brutal could be 1-4 with Minshew as your savior. By the time they get done kicking can, the veterans will have aged out and will need a complete rebuild. You want to give the young guy a shot fine, but bring in a viable starter just in case to keep the team competitive.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
@@Omar-ni5sf Personally I think if they were really married to trading up and drafting a QB they should have traded Adams and tried to package that with additional picks but you can't trade with a team that is set on using their pick to draft a QB themselves. The team is still young even Maxx is only 26 (hard to believe) and this is probably the best roster since the early 2000s with a good young core and a good cap situation going forward. What I really think is our long suffering franchise needs a bit of luck, we need to get a lucky break and get a good QB the unorthodox way either by drafting well or trade or FA. Why do you think i'm pulling so hard for AOC but I will say the more of his college games I watched the more surprised by him I am. He's not at all what I thought he was (so much for relying on media) he was a reckless gunslinger type of QB who needed to be reeled in and rebuilt into a more conservative game manager. Call me crazy but we may have gotten lucky with him and if we did we're well set up for the future.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
​@@Omar-ni5sf I think game 2 at Balt. is going to tell us a lot, obviously winning would be huge but playing well would put us in position to believe in ourselves early and stick it through the tough parts of the season. If we can start 2-0 things can snowball and it could be a fun season. Us older Raider fans deserve a break (i'm 59) i'm sick of being joked about and it's time for this team to start winning again. I'm encouraged by the new (old) approach to actually build the teams lines and have a defense that can win some games the offense struggles in it does remind me of the old Raider teams who never really had the best QB play but did everything else well especially play defense.
@scotteckersley6972
@scotteckersley6972 Ай бұрын
Who is the 3rd QB on the team.....that's who probably should start Week 1. Thanks for nothing Telesco
@LVraider67
@LVraider67 Ай бұрын
AOC SHOULD start the season. If he's can't do it then you bring in Gartner we'll be good but you can't win a Chip without a great QB in "this " 2024/25 NFL there are too many great quarterbacks in the AFC right now
@toyasparkman9727
@toyasparkman9727 Ай бұрын
Name three
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
@@toyasparkman9727 Very easy, Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen. He's right there are a lot of really good and good QBs that have a chance to be up there at the top. Hopefully AOC is the real deal because we might squeak into the playoffs with Minshew but we're not going anywhere afterwards.
@toyasparkman9727
@toyasparkman9727 Ай бұрын
@@jameshannagan4256 what have Allen done to be great? Burrow made one run to the superbowl and that makes him great? So when Minshew go to the superbowl this year, are you going to call him great?
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
@@toyasparkman9727 I'll kiss his ass on main street!
@RickyRaider-i3e
@RickyRaider-i3e Ай бұрын
The division is NIT stacked. Denver and Chargers have horrible rosters. Bo Nix? Not one decent reciever on Chargers. Only the Chiefs. Much more worried bout the rest of the schedule
@JohnDoe-d6j
@JohnDoe-d6j Ай бұрын
THE RAIDERS NEED TO GO ALL IN & TRADE FOR DALLAS COWBOYS QB DAK PRESCOTT OR FOR NEW ORLEANS SAINTS QB DEREK CARR
@27RAIDERMAN
@27RAIDERMAN Ай бұрын
No on Prescott
@GasparArriagajr-ym2pr
@GasparArriagajr-ym2pr 16 күн бұрын
Bring Derek Carr back, A.S.A.P. HE'S A TRUE RAIDER....... REAL TALK!
@emendoza4832
@emendoza4832 Ай бұрын
Aoc
@RaidersCfc
@RaidersCfc Ай бұрын
As a raiders fan, I can tell this guy is just looking at stats and reading other shit here and there. Nice try tho
@finest8188
@finest8188 Ай бұрын
😅
@ItsStormShadow
@ItsStormShadow Ай бұрын
Correction: Derek Carr pushed Derek Carr out the door.
@dl9232
@dl9232 Ай бұрын
🤦🏿‍♂️
@raiderswish
@raiderswish Ай бұрын
Facts, carr continually wiffed in the red zone his Entire career with the raiders...why is it so hard for people to admit carr is an above average QB. he's not great man, people be trippin
@dl9232
@dl9232 Ай бұрын
@raiderswish I don't think anyone is arguing he's elite. Just that he is above average but has never had the team around him. In 2016, when he had that great offensive line, he was top 10 in the red zone. At the end of this year, when his line gave him a little more time, he was top 5 on the red zone. For the year, he had the 8th most touchdowns in the red zone. Red zone efficiency is heavily dependent on coaching, running game, and offensive line play. Very few years in his career has he had those things in his favor. The problem is that there is no middle ground when discussing him. Either he is trash or he is elite. Neither is true, but he is better than most people give him credit for.
@tanneredge9774
@tanneredge9774 Ай бұрын
Not anymore. Our roster is all banged up in full of injuries. PUP players everywhere.
@wilbur9036
@wilbur9036 Ай бұрын
Lol😂 raiders are going 5-12 they have the worst coaching staff in NFL horrible.
@jaggedstarrPI
@jaggedstarrPI Ай бұрын
I'd bet you a hundred right now that you're wrong if you'd follow through when you lose.
@wilbur9036
@wilbur9036 Ай бұрын
@@jaggedstarrPI you know you would disappear when you lose so no.
@jaggedstarrPI
@jaggedstarrPI Ай бұрын
@@wilbur9036 We should just go back and forth trading, "No, you would!" to "No, YOU WOULD!" to "No YOU WOULD!" - etc., etc..
@kevinsalazar7008
@kevinsalazar7008 Ай бұрын
There's no dilemma 😂
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