Half the fan base was going to be upset regardless.
@charlesrazo72462 ай бұрын
Over half of the fan base never got to see the great raider teams in the playoffs and winning Super Bowls . That was a long time ago. last great raider team 1984 Super Bowl champions, 🏆🏆🏆
@SolomonMitchell-t9j2 ай бұрын
Absolutely my friend
@justingibson5082 ай бұрын
Yeah neither of these guys is anything to be excited about honestly. Either guy named the starter is gonna be on a very short leash I'm sure. A.O.C. will most likely get his chance in 2024 as well if this starts 2-5!
@matthewjamieson3702 ай бұрын
Your right everyone had there favourite, not much between them
@Rozay1712 ай бұрын
Naw throw that Trump Supporter in the Trash can
@ItWentChunkaCHUNK2 ай бұрын
We don't have a QB1. It's gonna be a rough year.
@rod82nd2 ай бұрын
AOC went 5-5 as a rookie with the whole Mcdaniels debacle two different HC and OCs, Minshew went 6-6 as Veteran last year and 22-27 for his career. Let's see how Minshew does with the Chargers...
@SizzelRizzel2 ай бұрын
menshew brought a team to the playoffs with half the talent on his offense
@carpetbusterslvllc30992 ай бұрын
@@SizzelRizzelfacts. Adam, Jacobi , bowers, Tucker. He about to have a good season this is the most talent he has played with no doubt.
@toastytopics26142 ай бұрын
@SizzelRizzel Exactly, that's what people are over looking. This is AOC 2nd year with the Raiders which he should be more acclimated with and Minshew his first year more accurate a few months with the and he doesn't look bad. Minshew help take a subpar colts team to the playoffs and play well. Now he is surrounded by stars he will do better. Devanti Davis Tweeted after MINSHEW threw a TD to Tucker, "SEE'. He tweeted that saying to the fans, 'SEE Minshew is way better of a QB and you will see thi!'
@SecondHSProductions2 ай бұрын
@@SizzelRizzelminshew did NOT take his team to the playoffs. The colts missed the playoffs last year. The only time he seen the post season was when He was a back up to Jalen hurts so Don’t over hype a guy that can barely complete 1/2 of his passes against 2-3rd string players who prob won’t even make a roster. That fact is Minshew is mid at best. Hes been on 4 teams in his 6th season… if he was a guy he wouldn’t be here, if he did so good for the colts why did they let him walk and take a 37+ yr old Flacco ? Minshew isn’t even a band aid, he’s gauze at best
@jbud56302 ай бұрын
Minshew is only 28. Dude isn't past his prime. This is one of the better teams he's been with so far in his career as a starter. 25 mill isn't backup money. I like AOC as well but let's give the man a shot. With what he's done with less talent, he should be alright. At the very least with a gunslinger QB it should exciting.
@ZEROBOUNDARI3S2 ай бұрын
AOC is a backup level QB at best. AOC had his chance and hasn't shown any progress. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here. Minshew is just better and has been tested for a few yrs. I m happy with the decision of Minshew over AOC 100%.
@winstonsyme58992 ай бұрын
This is his second season. You don’t know. He outplayed the number one overall pick from last season
@ZEROBOUNDARI3S2 ай бұрын
@winstonsyme5899 You mean Garopolo? Garopolo was washed up by the time he got to the Raiders. He lost his job in SF to a rookie QB that beat him out. The Raiders benched Garopolo after he got injured because he sucked and they didn't want to pay him the rest of his contract if he got injured again. There was really no competition there. You're right, this is the second season for AOC, and he hasn't shown anything better than what we've already seen. We know what he's got. Unfortunately, It's not franchise QB quality
@R8erRay5102 ай бұрын
@@winstonsyme5899that doesn't mean anything AOC never looked like a true starting QB with potential he always looked like a career back-up to me
@jerrymarti72022 ай бұрын
Minshew has big play ability. He does mess up though. Aiden is doesnt make the big play and still messes up. That pick six was brutal to watch. Then to a 3rd string LB in our house. That cant happen. I also saw his reaction. He should of apologized to Raider Nation for that shit play. Aiden has no balls if he wanted the job he should of took it. Looks like he is just happy playing in the NFL. No emotions from him. We need somone with a killer instinct that takes charge. Not sure Minshew is it but we know Aiden is not for sure.
@celly5592 ай бұрын
Aiden cement feet 😂😂😂 the statue of liberty aoc 😂
@markmacintyre56282 ай бұрын
At least he can scramble, my god we always have statues as QBs
@carpetbusterslvllc30992 ай бұрын
Aoc is a poor man version of carrbage. The nfl has changed you gotta be able to extend plays. Aoc has cinder blocks for feet.
@Feli-EPT2 ай бұрын
cement feet 😂 dang that’s dirty homie
@giovannigonzalez62582 ай бұрын
Imagine we never got fucked over by McDaniels?? My boy Carr would have been perfect for these weapons we have now
@Flaco-k8o2 ай бұрын
Carriage move on
@Feli-EPT2 ай бұрын
Car is gone & Jimmy is gone it’s gardog time now so like it or not
@edgardoescobar13932 ай бұрын
Carr had 9 years to prove it
@Flaco-k8o2 ай бұрын
@@Feli-EPT carrbbage robbed us
@DADREWSTER1002 ай бұрын
I feel you. These other low lifes dont know football at all. Carr and adams was cooking
@jayjayrodriguez14632 ай бұрын
At this point. Its just a matter of who disappoints more Minshew or O’Connell
@toastytopics26142 ай бұрын
Winning fixes many issues. If Minshew helps Raiders go 4-0 watch the complaining stop😂😂😂
@SizzelRizzel2 ай бұрын
I wanted AOC but i understand the decision and honestly think its for the best, with the o line situation and menshew brought a team to the playoffs with far less talent to work with. Lets give him a chance
@Flxco8182 ай бұрын
GM is going to go absolutely nuts this season watch 41-9 vs chargers watch
@gringoboy7012 ай бұрын
Football is so boring when your QB isn't even a top 25. It's basically just praying your defense can give the offense short fields all game so you might actually witness points on the board.
@zacharycrago27532 ай бұрын
I hear you.. but nah bro.. if anything, it's more exciting
@gflyreota2 ай бұрын
Carr was top 25 maybe even top 12 we still had bad seasons
@jmamijrАй бұрын
@@gflyreota carr was a top 10 qb while the whole Defense was dead last
@Mattygarciaxl2 ай бұрын
They did Aiden dirty !
@junitoss832 ай бұрын
It was easy to see who the qb was going to be. All you have to do is look at the salaries…
@shannonchurchill45562 ай бұрын
In so many words, AP implied that it was Aidan's job to lose, the tie goes to him, and Minshew would need to take the job. It didn't exactly go down that way. Even the Raider insiders are scratching their heads and saying that they felt that Aidan was the better QB. I have to agree with some people's suspicions that this has everything to do with an unsettled O-line that is going to need a QB who can run for his life if necessary. Having said that, the knock on GM is that he runs from the pocket too soon, and besides running for exactly 1 first down in the preseason, Minshew really didn't do much when he got out of the pocket. But all we have seen is OTA's, camp and 2 preseason games with our own eyes, and what's going to happen in the real season is anyone's guess.
@andjoandjo2 ай бұрын
I’m extremely wondering if we really have a true number one I like AC I also like Minshew I’m just not sure they are championship caliber quarterbacks. I would’ve rather went with the bigger quarterback I believe he has a bigger arm, but he has less experience, but he cannot gain experience, unless he plays. Gardeners a hell of a man is gardener. He’s a true pro and he will give you everything he has but he kind of reminds me of a type of guy like Pat Hayden back in the day got great heart, but I don’t know that he can get you past the finish line Defense still needs help upfront I like number 18 he’s a stud I think we would be lucky to go 500 ball this year. I was hoping we could win at least 11 games. I just don’t think that the team is mature yet will find out I’m raider nation all the way since 1972 I’m out, go raider go raider go raider go
@terrypurcell70392 ай бұрын
It is what it is play with the hand your dealt
@coryhardy58812 ай бұрын
Man if you getting paid that amount of money u know he was starting
@jakelong12052 ай бұрын
I was for AOC regardless, Minshew plays a lot like Jeff Garcia I have a feeling Aiden name will get called this season...
@kaosaelee3146Ай бұрын
It’s about neck to neck between the 2 QB, minsew is mobile and has more experience so it makes sense to start him first….but minsew isn’t completely solidified, I feel if minsew has 3 losing streak with bone head mistakes, ADiden will start.
@chancesareshewears2 ай бұрын
AOC made little impact , functional at best, and wasn't even present when we beat the Chiefs on xmas day. He's a decent back up. that's all he will ever be.
@KARMA-ok4yk2 ай бұрын
Lets start the disappointments early this season. AP sold us.
@Phoguy242 ай бұрын
He did let him fall for his decision. Let aidan save him again from his job 😂😂😂
@toyasparkman97272 ай бұрын
He did the right thing, he will be at least the 3rd best coach in raiders history
@jesuscastaneda13202 ай бұрын
Either guy would've been great to start unfortunately it had to come down to one and the best man won, now we have a QB1 let's support the guy after all he's a raider we haven't seen a full game with him& all the weapons.
@KARMA-ok4yk2 ай бұрын
@@toyasparkman9727 with those observation skills the raiders might want to hire u. With the competition being that close shows menshew is garbage after 5 yrs of the nfl. We need to wake up. AOC still doesn't have a full season under his belt.
@KARMA-ok4yk2 ай бұрын
@@jesuscastaneda1320 we haven't even seen AOC for 1 whole season. He is a rookie. We needed to give him the reigns to see what he would do for us this yr we ain't gonna win anyways right? This is stupid. And I'm sick of supporting bs that's all the raiders made me do for over 24 yrs now.
@gregglira99472 ай бұрын
Minshew is more of NFL pro ready qb, and AOC is still developing into the league. Keep head up AOC, and be ready at all times when your name is called AOC.
@jt55922 ай бұрын
Us fans know the least about what is going on in there. It’s probably leaning heavy towards the WR’s have a say as well.
@KM-jd9eo2 ай бұрын
It’s all good.
@jakelong12052 ай бұрын
Wonder why th Raiders didnt give Tannehill a call?
@jmamijrАй бұрын
i love this guy i used to watch him when he was with the jags and he had so much potential.... no offense to the other guy
@tmoney42042 ай бұрын
Aoc has that nate diaz style body needs to be hit the gym we need a qb that can scramble.
@Eddieavina1232 ай бұрын
Love your video and Raiders
@RichCurtis-6612 ай бұрын
This season is going to get pretty ugly, pretty fast. #17 will be crying his eyes out by week 3. AP will be on the hot seat by week 6.
@jacobpierobon56932 ай бұрын
Very disappointed. Was rooting for the rook but its time for the Nation to Stand up! Let's Goooooo! Raaaaaiders!
@chrisbowles60462 ай бұрын
When will the Raiders start to cut players
@allengodbolt67092 ай бұрын
It's gonna be another season of B.S they not building they just wasting fan Base time
@aussieaussieaussie87542 ай бұрын
so we still need a QB1
@ArmandoAguilarJr2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you're excited... but dang dude.. Minshew sucks ass, not saying O'Connell is any better, sure he's more mobile, but he's more irresponsible with the ball, if the Raiders fooled anyone, it was anyone thinking the raiders would go 8-8.
@BiggYTRAIDER2 ай бұрын
No they did not. We made a bad mistake
@BigBrueser2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but I hope we don’t win a single game. That’s my issue with this, if Aiden isn’t the future. Why am I hoping for another 9-7 season where we put ourselves out of position(again…) to potentially land a guy we want in the draft?
@Socrates21stCentury2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha ... here comes (6-11) ... Love it ... Just Win (sometimes) Baby !!!
@Talatywotty2 ай бұрын
We beat the Giants 30-6 last year
@randalkoch28552 ай бұрын
I kind of saw this coming just before preseason started. Minshew was more accurate in OTAs and practices. AOC just barely hung on. I guess 8 years experience just showed itself through. Good choice AP.
@KaelanF2 ай бұрын
Nah minshew has a higher ceiling
@Shirley_-zn8klАй бұрын
SHE LOOKS BETTER THEN YOU , I WANT TO WATCH HER
@myopinion27332 ай бұрын
Not everyone bro 😆
@jorgegamer2 ай бұрын
so Minshew is good and carr was bad????
@mauriciomonsalve892 ай бұрын
Aoc starts game 6
@mikedowns31952 ай бұрын
Basically we have a quarterback controversy sorry AP you failed in this one you said you didn't want to Band-Aid on the quarterback but it seems like that's what we got
@OvaldoCorona-j2s2 ай бұрын
I may get some back lash an some maybe criticize for this blah blah blah people can't just let someone have their opinion but if I was the Raiders I would make a push for Russell Wilson from the steelers dude can still ball idc what anyone says better than minshew
@lobi-wankenobi48722 ай бұрын
No playoffs now
@Marko.Raider2 ай бұрын
Playoff lock with minshew tf you talking about. All you fans are sleeping like a mf
@carpetbusterslvllc30992 ай бұрын
@@Marko.Raiderfacts bro. Mineshew is able to extend plays. Adams jakobi bowers and Tucker . Gardner is going to have a good season with the talent we have
@lobi-wankenobi48722 ай бұрын
@@Marko.Raider 🤣
@lobi-wankenobi48722 ай бұрын
@@Marko.Raider ya we’ll see lol. I ain’t buying it dude. I’m not sleeping either. I mean, I like Minshew, but he throws too many super risky throws, man.
@lobi-wankenobi48722 ай бұрын
@@carpetbusterslvllc3099 lol, he better! I believe in his weapons, braa. Just take care of the ball 🏈 and we’ll see what happens, lol
@-Thunder2 ай бұрын
I think they fooled the fanbase into thinking they have 2 QBs when they really have zero.
@mikedowns31952 ай бұрын
I completely disagree Aiden O'Connell can play this game let him take his lumps and play the 17 game season if he's a total disaster then obviously you look around are we going to the draft which they probably still will anyways but give the kid a chance man.
@mesmith29222 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Shawn_M2 ай бұрын
AOC will be the starter eventually. He's just better
@Shirley_-zn8klАй бұрын
BS I NEVER SEEN IT
@billconklin92222 ай бұрын
Colton Miller is no great shakes. He’s older and has that injury history.
@RaiderSerge2 ай бұрын
He doesn't have an injury History! 🙄 (And it's Kolton! NOT Colton!) 🙄 Again! Raiders4Life!
@billconklin92222 ай бұрын
@@RaiderSerge I’m sure his “surgery” was not a simple cosmetic, but represented treatment for some injury. And it has been sufficient to keep him out of even simple workouts with the team up until now. Last year he was rated 11th among the left tackles in the NFL, which is in the middle third and in my book is mediocre.
@brockvaught68472 ай бұрын
He's 28 years old. He's not older
@RaiderSerge2 ай бұрын
@@billconklin9222 I'm not saying it's not a significant injury, cause it is! I'm saying he doesn't have an injury History! Raiders4Life!
@robertjohnston69762 ай бұрын
Shoot man… Maybe we should try to pick up Trey Lance
@randalkoch28552 ай бұрын
😮
@jerrymarti72022 ай бұрын
Trey looked good
@BYanez26622 ай бұрын
Seems to me thst AP and Getsy have officially started the watch on their careers. If the administration and coaching staff didnt think AOC was a QB1 then they should traded for one or at the very least drafted one being that the was probably the most talented QB class since '83. I havent seen any bright spots this preseadon other then tightends .
@WickedMo132 ай бұрын
Call up that man Joe Flacco
@zacharycrago27532 ай бұрын
I love yall, but you're some of the most dramatic mfs out here.. idc who the QB is, i just wanna win baby.. everything else is meaningless