The Last Argument of Kings: Spoiler-free & Spoiler Review | 2 To Ramble

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@valliyarnl
@valliyarnl Ай бұрын
i'm liking this video only for richard. my patron money goes only to him this month
@qbanboi069
@qbanboi069 Ай бұрын
100% Austin has been making me reconsider a lot of things
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂
@rickymather2939
@rickymather2939 Ай бұрын
idk how austin can come out here and say something so relatable one episode, and then do this… is it my brain or my heart that hurts more?
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
Austin is completely right. Sorry. Your taste is just shit.
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
Austin is right. Sorry you have poor taste.
@stannisbaratheon5168
@stannisbaratheon5168 Ай бұрын
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian what do you like?
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon5168 LotR, Memory Sorrow and Thorne, Sun Eater, Drenai Saga, Last War, Cradle... all better stories than anything that smug blimey fuck wrote
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon5168 better stories. Lotr, Sun Eater, Osten Ard, Drenai
@felder1122
@felder1122 Ай бұрын
that 2.5 overall rating made me understand the daily pain that Glokta goes through 😂
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂
@heinricholivier2655
@heinricholivier2655 Ай бұрын
Truly, 2ToRamble videos are the Richards we endure between Austins
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
@@heinricholivier2655 😂😂😂
@mcman8694
@mcman8694 Ай бұрын
Austin’s opinion on this book has inadvertently convinced me not to read Red Rising.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@thalesbastos6510
@thalesbastos6510 16 күн бұрын
@@2ToRamble Do you have any news on when Red God is coming back!??? I'm dying for it
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble 11 күн бұрын
@ no news yet!!
@meganega123
@meganega123 Ай бұрын
This is a great example of how opinions can be wrong.
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
Yes. Hundreds of idiots are wrong.
@cooper_trooper0247
@cooper_trooper0247 Ай бұрын
Austin boutta become “Austin One Finger”.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂
@Straw-Hunter
@Straw-Hunter Ай бұрын
I want to like the video for Richard and dislike it for Austin
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
We have a cheat code - constantly make one of us more likeable in a video and we can never lose lol
@justinjosie5417
@justinjosie5417 Ай бұрын
Please do not skip the standalones! I know it seems tempting because you might think they’re not important but there’s good world building, lore building, and character building that are all very important. Not to mention best served cold and the heroes are the best books of the series
@hitzkooler15
@hitzkooler15 Ай бұрын
Maybe Richard needs another partner for fine works of art like this... Austin can stay for Red Rising discussions
@LeonC0704
@LeonC0704 Ай бұрын
But the thing is... Jezal changed. He is being... prohibited from doing much outwardly, but he is not the same person. He did change. And sometimes, the outside circumstances don't define who you are as a person. I think the book is also about... even if the circumstances don't change much, you can. You can find good in the situations, no matter how horrible they are (I'm thinking the ending with Glokta and Ardee). Also, even though Jezal cannot do much, he can do something, even if little (I'm thinking of his conversation with Glokta). And let's think about real life, Someone being poor doesn't mean they're lazy or stupid or have no ambition. There are situations in life that keep you from advancing, so I think we can also take it as... they outside circumstances do not define who you are. They don't define you or others. Just because you see others being "successful" (Bayaz) doesn't mean they actually are. They can be horrible people
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
This is such a moronic word salad. What? Jezal is once again a pawn to be used and discarded, as he was in the army. Bayaz just has to wait for the Queen to get pregnant and he can get rid of Jezal and replace him with a more useful and pliable puppet. Which he does with Orso in the second trilogy. Jezal doesn't have any control. He steps out of line for a second and Bayaz will stomp him like an ant. Idiot
@risajewell-uy6me
@risajewell-uy6me 26 күн бұрын
This was the best book out of the three. It was the culmination of what made this series grimdark and the lines of each character’s morality blurred through this book. Loved it!
@negativespacefilmlab
@negativespacefilmlab 17 күн бұрын
In my humble opinion: Before They Are Hanged is the best of the First Law trilogy. But the next series, the Age of Madness trilogy is one of the most immaculate trilogies I've ever read
@angussinclair1344
@angussinclair1344 Ай бұрын
I cannot believe it. Absolutely shocked Austin. How could you!!! 🤣
@angussinclair1344
@angussinclair1344 Ай бұрын
Just to say Austin, if you see this, please please please make your way through the rest of the First Law books. The second trilogy is leaps and bounds above in regard to plot, theme, message and the standalone novels are all great fun. By nature, they are more cyclical and plot-driven.
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
@@angussinclair1344 idiot
@S1leNtRIP
@S1leNtRIP Ай бұрын
I’m with Austin overall. Finishing this book left me so incredibly angry. Joe takes three well written and engrossing books to play one very mean trick on everyone: here, look at these fucked up weirdos, don’t you love them? Aren’t they funny? Aren’t they trying to be better? Fuck you, they suck and always did. It’s absolutely brilliant, but I just feel so disappointed by it. Though I recently went back and listened to the Blade Itself and holy crap it’s all there. My opinion on plot was similar to austin, but after rereading book 1, it’s so clear that Joe knew what he was doing since the beginning. Every time Logan says “you’ve got to be realistic about these things” it’s such clear self-justification. Or the hints that Jezal is a nobody, or Bayaz ultimate betrayal of all the laws. Somehow it’s so perfectly done. 4.5/5, I hate it.
@rileycavanaugh5817
@rileycavanaugh5817 Ай бұрын
That’s a great comment, I would say it’s an incredible book but would never be a favorite book
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
This is an awesome review lol
@staticccc
@staticccc Ай бұрын
sometimes people change, sometimes they don't, more often than not, they change back. Austin L Richard W
@przemysawszwed3318
@przemysawszwed3318 Ай бұрын
I'm big Abercrombie fan and I like to listen to Austin complaining about it. It's same excitement I get while listening to flat earthers explaining their point of view.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😭😭
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
So you're a shitty human being?
@yura_riabov
@yura_riabov Ай бұрын
Didn't expect Austin to become a twist villain with no redeemable qualities in first law review series
@legendsrule8968
@legendsrule8968 Ай бұрын
This is the first time I disagree with Austin 😂 Last Argument of Kings is one of the best fantasy books I’ve read 🤷🏽
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Hey there always has to be a first time that youre incorrect 😂 (still gonna continue with the series, hoping to get more out of future ones)
@hettyx6937
@hettyx6937 Ай бұрын
I honestly believe some stories just resonate with you. That’s the beauty of reading, we all have different tastes and need to accept it, not think they are better than the other.
@IndiaTides
@IndiaTides Ай бұрын
Actually Austin fails to understand that in reality people don't usually have arc. They usually falls to their basic instincts. Abercrombie is much more realistic in that portrayals.
@fidato_
@fidato_ Ай бұрын
He is right. Joe Abercrombie only has one trick up his sleeves. It is more apparent in era 2. Era2 is basically the same story, Same ending and same characters. I was more disappointed with the ending of era 2 because it was exactly the same as book 1. Character's journey and development didn't matter cos they ended up where they had stared. Bayaz was mostly in the background and there was no confrontation with him. Will the third generation be able to defeat him or are we gonna see the same story all over again.? The question remains..
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
Grimdark fanboy try to understand human beings beyond its Neo-Marxist collegw professor's lectures challenge: Impossible
@WigglesPK
@WigglesPK Ай бұрын
Austin, my guy, what the hell xD
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Had to do it 😮‍💨
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
An objectively correct opinion.
@sawtoothhorse
@sawtoothhorse Ай бұрын
I dont think Jezals story is as pessimistic as people make it out. While he ends up a coward and controlled by Bayaz what would he do otherwise? If he does anything he would be brave but dead and someone worse would probably be in his position. At least he was a person striving to be good forced to do a few imorral things rather than an evil person.
@lucasacosta2104
@lucasacosta2104 Ай бұрын
Have you read Best Served Cold and Age of Madness? Jezal is a punch bag during the whole series. Better be dead.
@sawtoothhorse
@sawtoothhorse Ай бұрын
@lucasacosta2104 no I hadn't read them. Knowing that makes me less excited for them since the cynical nature of this series of my least favourite part of it, feels unrealistically pessimistic so I search for optimism in it wherever I can.
@Yazzieeee
@Yazzieeee Ай бұрын
@@lucasacosta2104honestly if he’s just that pathetic throughout the entire series I don’t know if I wanna read the rest of the series. I thought they were setting him up for more or at least something but I guess not. It’s not called “Grim Dark” for a reason, I suppose.
@Crummock-bu2in
@Crummock-bu2in Ай бұрын
Don’t listen to these people Jezal may never grow a pair and stick it to Bayaz but he is a good man who cares about the people and raises a good if unmotivated son, and that comes through in future books.
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
Why are you defending the series when you disliked its crucial component?
@lodiac
@lodiac Ай бұрын
I read the first and second books a year and a half ago. Ironically, you've sold me on reading the third one through this podcast.
@aidanh3444
@aidanh3444 Ай бұрын
What a betrayal by Austin, I knew he was sus when he didnt LOVE Wheel of Time, but this is the last straw....
@bookdmb
@bookdmb Ай бұрын
I think the characters in the original trilogy are the best you’ll find anywhere, but the rest of the First Law books are much more well-rounded.
@aaronwatts72
@aaronwatts72 13 күн бұрын
Usually I'm in-between both of your guys for how I feel about a book leaning more towards Austin on most books. However on this one I am 100% on Richards side. Austin way off on this one. Bayaz being the man behind the matrix was insane, the apprentice being his "lover", the two eyed guy being the rook piece behind all the setups... Masterpiece set ups. The eaters being setup for being so insane and they were but the master class destruction of the eaters that made them feel insignificant was so cool. Ferro being setup for future books. Logain was such a sad story but makes so much sense by the end. This book was amazing. Trilogy was amazing. I'm disappointed that Austin couldn't enjoy the book for what the book was and let his opinion get in the way. I feel like that isn't typical for you buddy
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble 11 күн бұрын
Will have another First Law chat in the future to dive deeper into our thoughts here - was this your favorite of the trilogy?
@caj10__13
@caj10__13 Ай бұрын
I agree with you Austin! Glad to hear your opinion. Still trying to recover from you guys not liking iron gold, but one step at a time lol
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Heyyy! There we go!
@2FaceFGC45
@2FaceFGC45 Ай бұрын
1:11 This makes me think Austin was the type of kid to remind the teacher the class had homework due 😅
@morgancassidy6598
@morgancassidy6598 Ай бұрын
I can understand where Austin is coming from even though I completely disagree. Especially when it comes to the characters. The way you spoke is the way I feel about stormlight characters. 5k pages of portraying the same emotion with subtle growth besides the fact they become more competent in their abilities/powers.
@Retw86
@Retw86 Ай бұрын
Like Austin i was disappointed with the ending since i felt like it was so brutal with not much hope. But as I've sat with the story it has really grown on me. Bookborn made a great video about the "Anti Hero Journey" that helped me think about it. Its more a commentary on how change is difficult and your behaviours have to be constant rather than brief moments of good to actually be a better person (like so many of the characters want to be). As ive sat on the story its really grown on me and i hope it will for Austin as well. That being said comparing it to season 8 of Game of Thrones is so harsh!! Last argument of kings didn't make me retrospectively wish i hadnt seen all that came before it
@gabolujan
@gabolujan Ай бұрын
Austin didn't know the genre he was reading.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
👀
@tobyyasutake9094
@tobyyasutake9094 Ай бұрын
Wisdom of the crowd. Heh. Hehehhhe
@glazecotton
@glazecotton Ай бұрын
I think I loved the ending because I saw the ending of book 2 as very hopeful. Bayaz not finding the seed was a good thing because he clearly was not going to do any good with it. Jezal was improving, Glocta let Eider go Logan and Ferro got together and it was the high point in the series.
@tonkabeanicecream5698
@tonkabeanicecream5698 Ай бұрын
I think in regards to the message of the books, I honestly think its a little bit of a British thing. Americans are very optimistic and always somewhat have the American dream in the back of their mind, England on the other hand and maybe the rest of Britain has a very pessimistic or realistic approach to life.
@Colty1
@Colty1 28 күн бұрын
Love your guys channel! I need more people on Goodreads that enjoy these types of books.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble 27 күн бұрын
Thankyou!!
@sabo-archipelago5520
@sabo-archipelago5520 Ай бұрын
Say something about Austin, say he has bad takes. Edited to avoid spoilers
@valliyarnl
@valliyarnl Ай бұрын
5:57 my favorite is actually BTAH
@peacy7184
@peacy7184 Ай бұрын
This was a great video. I'm more on Austin's side in my enjoyment of the books -- but I really appreciate the craft of these books and think they did basically perfectly what they were 'trying to do'. I agree with Abercrombie's cynicism, but it depresses me lol. The 'Why So Cynical?' and 'Value of Grit' blog posts on Joe Abercrombie's blog are really interesting reads -- they give some insight into what he was trying to do with the trilogy, and raise some thought-provoking questions. Could lead to some good discussion!
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Thats an awesome idea! Thank you!!
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
"Doesn't everything suck" is not a worthwhile question.
@valliyarnl
@valliyarnl Ай бұрын
let's see how many brain cells i lose watching this.... but yes, Rich, I agree Jezal would be delicious... ... ... his journey of course
@thalesbastos400
@thalesbastos400 Ай бұрын
Horny jail
@resparx4633
@resparx4633 Ай бұрын
Austin is the greatest book reviewer of all time.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
I dont know if this is sarcastic, but Im glad I found the needle in the haystack of this comment section 😁😂
@resparx4633
@resparx4633 Ай бұрын
@@2ToRamble No, finally someone else who recognizes The First Law for the disappointment that it is and Red Rising for the work of art that it is.
@zacht7135
@zacht7135 Ай бұрын
I recently found you guys and am really enjoying all your videos! Today I came across the video you did with Bookborn from about a year ago, and it was great. Wanted to stop by and recommend The Green Mile to Richard, if you still have not read any Stephen King. Its not really like most of his other books. One of my favorite books I've ever read
@MeanBiscuit
@MeanBiscuit Ай бұрын
I agree with Austin on all points. Felt so betrayed by that third book that I still haven't picked up any other one by the author despite all the praises.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
🤝
@sjoerdth
@sjoerdth Ай бұрын
There were moments in previous videos where I wondered if Richard was the one with good taste, or Austin the one with bad taste. Now i know it's the latter 😉 One thing I really liked, which you touched upon on a couple of occasions but didn't specifically mention, was that most-if not all-characters who accepted who they are had a satisfying ending (for themselves).
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074 Ай бұрын
41:55 Completely agree. The number of opportunities Logen alone had to change, to go on a different path, is insane, and he basically avoided all of them and went right back to where he was, because he "never had any choices."
@CodZilla45
@CodZilla45 Ай бұрын
Do you not see this mirrored in real life? How many criminals say they'll change to recommit crimes down the road? How many alcoholics and drug addicts say they will get clean to relapse? How many people say they'll go back to school or start hitting the gym and never do? Real life is less people make dramatic change than do. Both character types are valid but Joe is more interested in people struggling to change but due to internal strife, history, and the circumstances around them lead them to get stuck in their ways. If it's fine to have hundreds of characters who overcome their shortcomings and become the best version of themselves then a few books where things go in the other direction should work as well. Not saying anyone has to enjoy but this is the reason most people are fans of the series. Grey characters who don't get a fairytale.
@bradykathol8806
@bradykathol8806 Ай бұрын
I’m not going to dislike the video because I love the podcast, but Austin really had me close I swear with that rating
@iOfTheStormm
@iOfTheStormm Ай бұрын
How on Rarth did this and Before They Are Hanged reviews come out so perfectly THE DAY I finished both books. Are you two sorcerers???
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Call us Bayaz. Our informants and hold over the world knows all 🤌
@uzi888
@uzi888 Ай бұрын
My favourite scene that floored me was wen Glokta meets West for the last time.
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074 Ай бұрын
I forgot how controversial this ending was, since I loved it immediately. I wonder if Austin gives it more time, or as he goes through the other books he will appreciate what was done here more. It might just have to sit with you for a while longer :) or maybe you'll just always be wrong...
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😁
@moonbear321
@moonbear321 Ай бұрын
Love you guys! Even in times like this
@moonbear321
@moonbear321 Ай бұрын
TAXI DRIVER SUCKS ASS!?
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Im sorry 😭😂
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074 Ай бұрын
Can't wait for you two to get into the standalones, and especially the Age of Madness
@morgancassidy6598
@morgancassidy6598 Ай бұрын
See I love the first law and the stand-alones. Besides red country it’s kinda mid but i really besides book 2 did not love the age of madness trilogy
@mcgeeal5342
@mcgeeal5342 Ай бұрын
Gotta read Red Country and Heroes now 😂
@gwbraiden4172
@gwbraiden4172 Ай бұрын
What panel will you guys be on at Dragonsteel?
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
We will be on 2 - Unique Magic Systems & the Worldbuilding panel. We’ll announce everything on a video coming up!
@CubenYT
@CubenYT Ай бұрын
Hey, I know this isn’t about First Law at all lol but are you going to do a Stranger Things 5 episode when the season comes out?
@RalphNC09
@RalphNC09 Ай бұрын
I also didn't like the ending when I read it. I was confused and was expecting more revelations with Khalul and the world, that we were going to see him or something... and we didn't. I was disappointed too, but loved the whole trilogy. But even then, this was a great episode. I think it speaks volumes about how good your discussions are that I came away from this understanding the trilogy better AND even the ending. It speaks volumes even with Austin's subpar rating. So great work boys! Spoilers: Once you guys talked about Bayaz and how everything was about him and his stupid grudge, that that was what every character's purpose ultimately led to, I understood it. I love the trilogy even more cause of you guys.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Super glad you got so much out of our review, means a lot!!
@scoundrel1692
@scoundrel1692 Ай бұрын
5:55 little Age of Madness reference, I like it
@Kieran-Wiesenberg
@Kieran-Wiesenberg Ай бұрын
Need an “I was floored” Richard tee in the next merch drop
@Mightyjordy
@Mightyjordy Ай бұрын
It’s so weird, I found book 1 to not be very good, but I enjoyed book 2 and thought book 3 was way better than the two before. So probably 3/5 for the first two and 5/5 for the last
@nicodemogawronski2052
@nicodemogawronski2052 Ай бұрын
oh are you reading "Best Served Cold" next? :D That one is truly amazing.
@turtle62785
@turtle62785 Ай бұрын
I think Glokta wanted to see everyone who turned their back on him pay and see how fickle and shallow the world is and what he got was catharsis from his old friend Collom West, but then he dies…Glokta needed a friend even though he was mean and bitter and kept everyone at an arms length. Glokta’s is a tale of constant betrayal
@dirkrousseau462
@dirkrousseau462 Ай бұрын
Reading book three I thought there was no way it would end the same as the second book to further subvert expectations. The end made me think, of course I was an optimistic idiot. I felt like I could almost hear him laughing at me, which I enjoyed.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Thats a fun way of looking at it
@dirkrousseau462
@dirkrousseau462 Ай бұрын
Its just funny how we can bascily have the same thought then feel differently about it. I hope you all go over the next few books. I would be very interested in both of your opinions on Best Served Cold. I am half way through The Heroes.
@uzi888
@uzi888 Ай бұрын
Loving this video. Although Austin is getting some pushback he does defend his positions really well. I dont agree but he does. The thesis about the ending that there is no hope i disagree with. Hope is the expectation of something happening but there ia no promise of the fulfilment of that promise. I grew up experiencing two dictstorships. The unachievable hope of something that keeps people going. Amongst all the sinisterism, there is hope in Glokta's feelings towards West, his actions towards Ardee, his conversation with Jazel at the end about something to do in the future. There is hope in Jazel's unhappiness with being contolled, there hope in his interest in the rebuild. At a national level, the union won both wars even with all the curruption there is hope for the common person in that. So i really found it thought provoking in the sense a western fantasy story had me connected. The evil is not as easy to defeat with just a heroe's story but it is an experience of banging your head againts the wall and fail against the establishment but as humans we continue to fight with a mixture of our personal motivations and the willingness to survive.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Appreciate this and totally get where youre coming from!
@nicodemogawronski2052
@nicodemogawronski2052 Ай бұрын
43:10 who is going to tell them? :D
@christiankane6758
@christiankane6758 Ай бұрын
I loved the first 3, but was disappointed (as I didn’t understand grimdark). I didn’t get Abercrombie until The Heroes (5). That book blew me away. Just finished Age of Madness, and it’s the best character work I’ve ever seen. KEEP GOING
@anthonyvargas8052
@anthonyvargas8052 Ай бұрын
I know I am in the minority here but I also disliked this trilogy. From chapter one the Wizard was obviously a bad guy. He took every chance to insult or demean his student but sucked off Logan every chance he got. He cheated, lied and went into a rage every time he did not get his way. I read on, waiting for his downfall only for him to win in the end and ruin everyone’s lives in the process. Thats to say, I was left very disappointed in the end. 😞
@IvanSabaleuski-j3k
@IvanSabaleuski-j3k 7 күн бұрын
Just writing in support of Austin. I have a lot of same feelings and thoughts about the ending.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble 6 күн бұрын
🫡
@MrCian47
@MrCian47 28 күн бұрын
Na I’m sorry, even if you didn’t like the ending giving this a 2.5 is an absolute travesty. The quality of the writing, characters, fight scenes and dialogue alone make this a classic. It’s one of the all time great fantasy books, easily.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble 27 күн бұрын
The characters and prose are my highest categories definitely - but overall wanted to reflect how I felt about the book
@Why_do_I_do_this.
@Why_do_I_do_this. Ай бұрын
2.5??????? 😵‍💫😵‍💫 Just so everyone knows ... When Austin wakes up one day and he is "Austin No-fingers" .... I was busy that day 🙂🤣🤣🤣
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Rontay731
@Rontay731 Ай бұрын
Don’t worry Richard. You still have one Austin who, 1. Is of Italian descent. 2. Has been compared to a chipmunk 3. Loves Red Rising. And, most importantly, Thinks Last Argument of Kings is one of the most satisfying endings to a trilogy he’s ever read. Congratulations Austin, you made me side with Richard. I need to take a shower to wash away this betrayal.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Dont worry you’ll come around and see the light 😮‍💨
@Rontay731
@Rontay731 Ай бұрын
@@2ToRamble Yes, yes, much like how you’ll come around and say these words with vigor and actually mean them: “Name of The Wind is better than Golden Son.” In all seriousness though, your opinion is your opinion no matter how much I disagree with it. I can understand you were hoping for a happier/more uplifting ending, but for me personally, it was so satisfying because of how unsatisfying things went in certain areas. That’s just me, though. Love listening to this podcast at work, so keep it up. I’m hoping to read Sword of Kaigen soon so I can watch the video you guys made on that.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
@@Rontay731 ooo hope you love Kaigen - it is one of my all time favorites!
@LetItBe16
@LetItBe16 Ай бұрын
How did Logan not kill a friend before this book? Was it explained?
@Yazzieeee
@Yazzieeee Ай бұрын
Are people actually enjoying Jezal’s showcase this book and whatever follows? Or are they just looking at it from a story standpoint, which it would make much more sense that way.
@vigilantScrivener
@vigilantScrivener Ай бұрын
I have complicated feelings about the trilogy as a whole now that it’s done. Truly some of the best characters a reader could ask for by being shitty fuck ups in a believable way. The what of it feels a bit hollow. I think Bayaz ending up being more Palpatine and less Gandalf really makes you stop and consider how the precedent of wizards pulling up and recruiting nobodies to fuck shit up should give more pause than it normally does. Like if Merlin didn’t build Arthur up would things have gotten as cocked up as they did if there had never been a Camelot?
@zilord3264
@zilord3264 28 күн бұрын
This trilogy feels nihilistic for sure. I think that is the issue that people had with this book. A distinction has to be made, being "Grim Dark" , "pessimistic", or cynical is different from being nihilistic. You can enjoy dark stories but dislike nihilistic work, which is what this trilogy seems to be at least.
@sethmegginson5678
@sethmegginson5678 Ай бұрын
I’m currently reading The Wisdom of Crowds so this may change but the last argument of kings has been my favorite in the whole series including AOM trilogy and the standalones to this point. I was a little taken aback by the abruptness of the ending of LAOK but after I took some time to think on it I realized how I actually really loved how it ended. I would say Ferro ending was the only one that I was a little bit sour grapes on.
@ThatPsychoYandere
@ThatPsychoYandere Ай бұрын
Glokkta and Ardee are so cute together
@titantv4567
@titantv4567 Ай бұрын
24:22 You are gonna love Kingdoms of Death
@grabsgranite3188
@grabsgranite3188 Ай бұрын
It’s weird how books hit people differently. The Blade Itself was my least favorite, absolutely loved the final two books.
@hitzkooler15
@hitzkooler15 Ай бұрын
Austin is basically saying "thank you for watching and dont forget to unsubscribe"
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Lmaooo
@LeonC0704
@LeonC0704 Ай бұрын
Ah, yes... The world of Ottawa and how Bayaz formed it
@Journeyman2585
@Journeyman2585 Ай бұрын
I loved the Trilogy, just hated the ending. It doesn't take away from the awesome journey though. Sometimes endings just shit the bed.
@Daniel-xd4fm
@Daniel-xd4fm Ай бұрын
i love the trilogy, felt a bit deflated at the ending but it didnt ruin it for me and closed the last book eager to continue the sequels
@PringlesCanJohn
@PringlesCanJohn Ай бұрын
Damn bro Austin got his heart broken.
@JamesSmith-rs4iu
@JamesSmith-rs4iu Ай бұрын
2.5 out of 5 stars is an insane take
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Had to do it to em
@kingdonsobek
@kingdonsobek Ай бұрын
Viewers best first line contest?
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
We have done that before!
@kingdonsobek
@kingdonsobek Ай бұрын
I thought u have only done it from real books. Not something like you did with the world building competition
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
@@kingdonsobek we did that once way back, but could do another
@kingdonsobek
@kingdonsobek Ай бұрын
Sorry I must have missed that one. Thx for replying lol
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
@@kingdonsobek no sweat!
@fatghostproduction7190
@fatghostproduction7190 Ай бұрын
Austin would be murdered so fast in this world with his "There's Light and There's Hope" propaganda
@thellama3239
@thellama3239 Ай бұрын
I honestly don’t understand lol. At this point I think he’s just playing the contrarian. There is just no way
@sgreen31
@sgreen31 Ай бұрын
The integrity of this channel has been compromised 😂
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂😂
@jamalerdem2055
@jamalerdem2055 Ай бұрын
it’s been said 100 times but you deserve it again Austin. FOR SHAME!
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
SHAME!! (Austin here.)
@miller0002
@miller0002 Ай бұрын
I usually agree with Austin and disagree with Rich but not this time! #teamrich
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Join me next time, Ill allow the disagreement this ONCE and once only 😮‍💨
@Xxpastore10xX
@Xxpastore10xX Ай бұрын
2.5! What a joke 🤣
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
This book is a joke.
@MrCian47
@MrCian47 Ай бұрын
@@AndrewFrancisIlyrianyou’re on your own Andrew, pipe down.
@cheddarzuniga8418
@cheddarzuniga8418 Ай бұрын
This is such blasphemy from Austin that I had to comment for the first time to voice how crazy his take is. IT WAS ALL SOO BAD‼️‼️‼️‼️
@LeonC0704
@LeonC0704 Ай бұрын
Richard... nobody likes Salt vinegar chips.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
(I must support richard on this unfortunately)
@rishabhtomar8413
@rishabhtomar8413 Ай бұрын
Say one thing about the first law trilogy say it was a fine time.
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
@AndrewFrancisIlyrian Ай бұрын
No.
@RLX5201
@RLX5201 13 күн бұрын
The entire trilogy was a huge disappointment to me. Excellent 10/10 characters do not excuse what is essentially a lack of any real plot. It’s just a random series of events that happen in this world with no ending or resolution. Not for me.
@IzzyZil20
@IzzyZil20 Ай бұрын
I’m more and more convinced that Austin only likes red rising and is not capable of liking anything else because Last Argument of Kings is the best of the trilogy and even if you argue against that, giving it such a low review seems disingenuous to me
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
Oof! Maybe we agree on other books, seems like we dont here
@IzzyZil20
@IzzyZil20 Ай бұрын
@@2ToRamble we do agree that red rising is good, it’s just not the best thing ever lol
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
@@IzzyZil20 fair enough!
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074
@phoenixtempleeviltruth8074 Ай бұрын
It would be one thing if Austin didn't like the whole trilogy... but you loved the first two and hated this???? how awful!!! liked and subscribed.
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂
@travisholdsworth6988
@travisholdsworth6988 Ай бұрын
Y'all should just rename this channel "Austin hates everything"
@Jdp547
@Jdp547 15 күн бұрын
This whole series is so overrated. I also don't know why people say it's like GoT it's nothing like game of thrones. Don't get me wrong they aren't bad books it just feels like he started writing and had ideas for characters and no idea where he wanted the story to go.
@VeraSakhniuk
@VeraSakhniuk Ай бұрын
I was afraid that the book would end with a ‘happily ever after,’ but it ended the way it did, and I enjoyed it so much. There are no purely good people in this book; they all made some bad choices, even though each character had a chance for a better future. In the end, everyone got what they deserved.
@MichalGlowacz86
@MichalGlowacz86 Ай бұрын
I think it's a good book - both as a novel and as a way to end the trilogy. I rated it pretty high. Yet, as I finished reading it, I was a little disappointed. So I guess... thank you for the representation Austin?
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
I’ll take it!!
@supermayo8a
@supermayo8a Ай бұрын
Austin, I always wanted to know if you listened to audiobooks while you WORK OUT THOSE INSANE MUSCLES??
@2ToRamble
@2ToRamble Ай бұрын
😂😂
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