The Last Days of the ROC Reloaded - Dame Dash vs Def Jam The Aftermath PT. 1

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Choke No Joke Arthur D. Alston III

Choke No Joke Arthur D. Alston III

5 жыл бұрын

Back by popular demand is the first Hip-Hop Web Series The Last Days of the ROC. Directed by Choke No Joke
Picking up where the Dame Dash vs Def Jam ended with the conference room scene when Dame found out that Jay Z had a secret marketing meeting with Def Jam staff without notifying anyone at Roc-A-Fella Records about it even after seeing the staff the night before at a Funeral. Dame address Kevin Lyles, Lyor Cohen, Randy Acker about the torturous interference they are doing with his artist and record label.
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@blitzlegga
@blitzlegga Жыл бұрын
The thing is, Dame thought he was playing checkers with Def Jam, but they were playing chess with him. Def Jam always wanted Jay and Jay alone. Lyor sensed that there was a rift between Jay and Dame and he purposely did some slick shit to make the rift bigger. One of those things was sending jackets to the ROC team during their Hard Knock Life tour with "Def Jam" labels on them instead of ROC. He knew this would piss Dame off and cause him to react in a certain way. Another was this meeting which he purposely did not invite Dame because, again, he knew Dame would react in a certain way. Dame fell right into the trap. And the trap was, Lyor putting the bug in Jay's ear that he was working with an irrational person and he should distance himself from that person before they take him down with them. So now, everytime Dame reacted to Lyor's perfectly calculated stunts, he made sure Jay was seeing Dame's irrational behavior. Bottom line, Dame is not self aware and has no emotional intelligence. That is why he never saw it coming.
@blakghost2023
@blakghost2023 11 ай бұрын
Facts on facts brother. Your not the only person that said that
@Eyesofpeso
@Eyesofpeso 11 ай бұрын
Jay - Z should have seen that move coming all along if him, Dame & and Biggs started the label before Lyor was in the picture. Dame already knew what Lyor was doing & he wasn’t having it. JAY Z should have had his back, not side with Lyor
@LOSTGPS
@LOSTGPS 9 ай бұрын
doesnt matter, Dame supported Jay when no other label would sign him, so it would've been real of Jay to just create their own version of Sony, and instead of Jay being the ONLY one to make it to billionaire status, it wouldve been Jay, Dame, and Biggs and that would've been powerful for black artist because there are no major black corporations like WB, Sony, Lionsgate, etc
@user-qi5nh7ut5o
@user-qi5nh7ut5o 9 ай бұрын
🫡 j was the chosen 1
@grovedwayne390
@grovedwayne390 8 ай бұрын
He keep calling Jay his artist What!! Jay put up his own money to start Rocafella and was a co-founder. The cashcow only needed himself, 💸 realized that and bounces
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out choke no joke for realizing this was an historic moment in music industry history and documenting it.
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 2 жыл бұрын
Dame's policy was yo document by video, he always did that.
@demetrawest9914
@demetrawest9914 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes this would be reality TV gold 🎯
@bernieralexandre1107
@bernieralexandre1107 2 жыл бұрын
Dame ask him to meet him there
@danieldevito6380
@danieldevito6380 Жыл бұрын
Dame was the one who told him to film this. Choke gave an interview, I think with Vlad, and talked, in detail, about this entire incident. This was one of the most historic moments' in Hip Hop.
@CrownPROMOtv
@CrownPROMOtv 5 ай бұрын
It was Dame's idea
@danieldevito6380
@danieldevito6380 Жыл бұрын
Dame's anger was less about that meeting, and more about the fact that he saw the writing on wall that Jay was moving on. Dame knew that the cash cow was leaving and he was just lashing out on anyone.
@michaelburton7774
@michaelburton7774 Жыл бұрын
Big Facts
@lifeallah8005
@lifeallah8005 Жыл бұрын
What year was this? N interviews Dame said Jay was having secret meetings with but as I’m watching this video where is Jay? Lol n then u heard him say he don’t trust Jay with them, meaning he didn’t never Trust Jay or never had his trust n Jay when dealing with these ppl! Glad Jay did leave!
@D1Snr
@D1Snr 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I just commented. Dame knew the part waw over and he was just lashing out and being dramatic to try and save face. He knew it was over for him
@ChrisJProductionz
@ChrisJProductionz 8 ай бұрын
@@lifeallah8005this was in 2003
@nuggetfresh9641
@nuggetfresh9641 2 ай бұрын
He didnt know yet, he still was fighting for Jay the snake.
@blackgoku1020
@blackgoku1020 4 жыл бұрын
Who eva filmed all these vid on the dwn fall of rocafella is the real mvp
@DJdot1000
@DJdot1000 4 жыл бұрын
I think this dude put clips together
@Dina_Darling
@Dina_Darling 4 жыл бұрын
Choke No Joke!!
@DHANK88
@DHANK88 4 жыл бұрын
Documented Jay-Z’s power move and Dame Dash taking a Big L
@kennycaligula3081
@kennycaligula3081 4 жыл бұрын
I betcha Dame never imagined that his personal videographer would capture this. Apparently he had a cameraman to film the cameraman.
@kivanihabhouse3467
@kivanihabhouse3467 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennycaligula3081 choke was told to be there it wasnt an accident
@marshawndeivon4474
@marshawndeivon4474 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like Dame suspected something was going on but he didn’t want to believe it
@douglassgarvey653
@douglassgarvey653 4 жыл бұрын
Jay really left cuz he was tired of Dame calling him his artist like they weren't business partners 😂
@williamgray3440
@williamgray3440 4 жыл бұрын
post peel...........YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT! They were partners from my understanding as well.
@KeeksSnoogie79
@KeeksSnoogie79 3 жыл бұрын
Dame head he believed they all had day roles and Jay was the artist that's it, and he feel Jay only knew business and how it works watching him xD ego was his downfall too.
@yolo7349
@yolo7349 3 жыл бұрын
Dame was very insecure he felt that he had no value if Jay could be the artist and the business man at the sametime
@whosaidthatimari4915
@whosaidthatimari4915 3 жыл бұрын
Little do you know it was dame dash and Biggs who first started rockafella..Jay-Z begged dame to give him a chance..they didn't hang out with Jay-Z or nothing like that..Jay-Z didn't have a hit record yet?? Facts..do your research..dame was right Jay-Z was his artist and partner..dame ran the business Jay-Z did the rapping and Biggs did the marketing man y'all don't give dame his just due..he don't get his accolades like y'all give Jay-Z?? If it was vise Versa and dame was the billionaire and Jay-Z had scraps..man y'all would be fighting for Jay-Z to get his money from dame dash. Yall would have said dame did Jay-Z wrong?? That's what happened to dame dash if you turn it around..Jay-Z is a snake period..it was all about the 💰 for him..in this business obviously you have No friends @ all..smile in your face and do snake stuff behind your back..facts
@douglassgarvey653
@douglassgarvey653 3 жыл бұрын
@@whosaidthatimari4915 Do your research Jay was the ticket. Its the music industry and Jay was the only of the 3 making music, hit record or not. He's a co founder of Roc, a partner so that doesn't put him under Dame. So to call Jay "my artist" is not factual. Who's yall? I never dissed Dame. My comment was meant to be a joke but since you want to get technical... Lol
@icebergslimtv6377
@icebergslimtv6377 Жыл бұрын
Jay made the decision that was best for him. He offered Dame Rocafella and Rocawear, he just wanted his Masters for Reasonable Doubt. Dame scoffed at the idea probably thinking he had leverage but Jay being the shrewd businessman he was probably seen this coming knowing Dames personality and always had a safety net and empowerment from the Major label(Def Jam) with his agreement to become President which was only a power move so he can have more leverage and autonomy over his own career. Dames tactics was needed in the beginning when you’re trying to break down certain doors to get in the industry but once you get in the house you no longer need the Bull because that same energy that broke that door down will be the same energy that’ll tear down the house.
@yadiah4319
@yadiah4319 Жыл бұрын
When you in the house there are more doors
@icebergslimtv6377
@icebergslimtv6377 Жыл бұрын
@@yadiah4319 True but not for Dame
@icebergslimtv6377
@icebergslimtv6377 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexCastro1 It’s hard to say knowing Dame hasn’t built anything like it since…
@trinal3745
@trinal3745 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexCastro1 no tf he didn’t, that’s a bold faced lie
@wynntonterrace9615
@wynntonterrace9615 7 ай бұрын
If Dame would’ve took Rocafella and Rocawear he would’ve lost because all the partnerships and sponsors would’ve followed Jay knowing he wasn’t a CEO anymore of those businesses. I think holding on to the Reasonable Doubt masters was the smartest thing Dame did he still eats off that album and over the years Reasonable Doubt has been more appreciated and celebrated than any other Jay Z album in his catalog. That Reasonable Doubt keeps Dame above water, he’ll never drown long as he doesn’t sell his percentage in that album.
@Castone35
@Castone35 Жыл бұрын
Dame saw the writing on the wall. He knew Jay Z was behind it. That's where the frustration came from. He knew he was canceled so he figured he would take his "pound of Flesh" on the way out the door. He wasn't yelling at def jam, he was indirectly yelling at Jay.
@beedub4954
@beedub4954 3 жыл бұрын
Dame is motivation and he is also a case study of how not to handle things
@702TifosiGambler
@702TifosiGambler Жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t understand cuz you not a boss I’m a boss of bosses we don’t speak the same language
@genxchas
@genxchas Жыл бұрын
Or how not too handle things in the music industry
@r.burnom8946
@r.burnom8946 Жыл бұрын
But I want to handle it the Dame way
@sakebomb5446
@sakebomb5446 Жыл бұрын
@@r.burnom8946 Good luck! Lmk how that works out
@MarkJohnson-xs1ql
@MarkJohnson-xs1ql Жыл бұрын
I’m happy Jay got away from him like Jay said too much flossing too much Sam Rothstein Dame would had been his downfall .
@gunman9163
@gunman9163 5 жыл бұрын
I think Dame was , kinda right for this,this is how niggaz wiggle they way in to shit you built and try to take your company as you see Def jam did
@greenghost3756
@greenghost3756 4 жыл бұрын
Jay-Z set that meeting up not Def Jam
@Alrokako
@Alrokako 4 жыл бұрын
@@greenghost3756 If that's true there where was Jayz and why didnt he just explain the truth to Dame?
@ryanmckie9817
@ryanmckie9817 4 жыл бұрын
And jay z now there puppet
@demotherboyz
@demotherboyz 5 жыл бұрын
And lil did he know back then that Jay set up the meeting
@jeffreyking6016
@jeffreyking6016 5 жыл бұрын
Shit fuckin right....didn't even know they were about to kick his ass out into da cold
@OG_Poe_Sweet
@OG_Poe_Sweet 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Z a clown
@mrtonywilliams6312
@mrtonywilliams6312 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyking6016 snake move
@xi7404
@xi7404 5 жыл бұрын
Jay a Snake. I hate that element of him
@mrtonywilliams6312
@mrtonywilliams6312 5 жыл бұрын
@@zaynukem Jay has nothing more to do with the nets but I get it
@piper4thepeople
@piper4thepeople 5 жыл бұрын
When Damon said: "I don't know how to use a email" #Throwback
@Marc_Masters
@Marc_Masters 5 жыл бұрын
Damn
@princesamael8099
@princesamael8099 5 жыл бұрын
Last of the real
@sbrooks904
@sbrooks904 5 жыл бұрын
This is 02/03...he really shoulda known by then
@lawistruth
@lawistruth 4 жыл бұрын
That was a possibility then
@sbrooks904
@sbrooks904 4 жыл бұрын
Disciple of The Way I’m 32 so I know that ain’t really true.
@Muddyronews
@Muddyronews 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is READ YA EMAILS DAWG😂😂😂
@kivanihabhouse3467
@kivanihabhouse3467 3 жыл бұрын
They sent him am email cuz they knew he wouldn't check it
@vincentestone5764
@vincentestone5764 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you got jokes.
@JohnDoe-jg3sv
@JohnDoe-jg3sv 3 жыл бұрын
@@kivanihabhouse3467 never
@kivanihabhouse3467
@kivanihabhouse3467 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-jg3sv lol seriously how many emails were we reading in 04
@canteversleep1121
@canteversleep1121 3 жыл бұрын
@@kivanihabhouse3467 he literaly said " i dont know how to check email" people forget this was before anyone had iphones lol
@cassandramonique
@cassandramonique 3 жыл бұрын
He’s carrying around so much hurt and over the years it’s been difficult to watch. It will always be hard for a guy like Dame who takes loyalty to the core of his heart in a business where it will always be about the money first.
@NYSTyl
@NYSTyl 3 жыл бұрын
C.M.A facts 👸🏽
@mo2k638
@mo2k638 3 жыл бұрын
SimplyBri is dame your idol ?
@stevenlee2701
@stevenlee2701 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this how trump think like as far as loyalty idk just threw that out there
@bowser_infamously
@bowser_infamously 3 жыл бұрын
@Maniac50AE preach tho
@alostsheep8450
@alostsheep8450 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s why Jesus died. Fu**** simps, but the world is given over into the hands of the wicked.
@dickhertz2277
@dickhertz2277 4 жыл бұрын
What sad is hes fighting for jay ..but little did he know he was being fooled the whole time ...
@albertdick1702
@albertdick1702 4 жыл бұрын
True dat brother sad ! Jay slod him out ✌
@ksanders249
@ksanders249 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with dash & he's doing the right thing
@cdubb8185
@cdubb8185 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Kingaoiun57831
@Kingaoiun57831 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't fighting for Jay he was fighting for being the big man in the company. Nobody can do anything unless they go through him.
@xvq4626
@xvq4626 4 жыл бұрын
How was he fighting for Jay z ?
@samster2626
@samster2626 4 жыл бұрын
When Kevin Lyles said "handle ur business " he was pretty much telling this foo get ur house in order, Hov is about to run the world! 😂
@vern8206
@vern8206 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Kevin was telling him to get his house in order, cause the domino’s were about to fall on the entire label of the roc
@each1teach1academy43
@each1teach1academy43 Жыл бұрын
But Jay slipped out on Def Jam the same way
@vonscott7683
@vonscott7683 Жыл бұрын
People talk shit about Dame but this is more so just showing his integrity throughout the business side. They say don’t get in it if you can’t handle it but many artists have optimism of keeping their core morals while still entering the industry. Unfortunately only A few can have it transpire over.
@MrEOM41
@MrEOM41 6 ай бұрын
Jay Z = "Show them how to move in a room full of vultures." Dame Dash = "I rather not even be in that room."
@kalebanth8323
@kalebanth8323 3 ай бұрын
Dame dash = “show you how to play checkers in a room full of chess players”
@grovedwayne390
@grovedwayne390 3 ай бұрын
Dane wasn't being realistic. Jay knew u had to walk in the room with the vultures to get the meal and take it away to your family. Dame was in the room also as long as the cut the checks 💸
@77Creation
@77Creation 2 ай бұрын
Dame Dash = When keeping it real goes wrong.
@prettiiprettii2700
@prettiiprettii2700 4 жыл бұрын
Dame’s been consistent since day one 💯💯💯💯
@DJdot1000
@DJdot1000 4 жыл бұрын
Dame a beast for sure
@77Creation
@77Creation 2 ай бұрын
Consistently losing.
@RobbinStClair
@RobbinStClair 5 жыл бұрын
Damon dash was talking culture back then.
@mrdontpl8y
@mrdontpl8y 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny the migos still sign with lehor Cohen Jewish ass anyway then made a album called culture then name a child that shit as well..
@AmericanMayan
@AmericanMayan 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrdontpl8y talk about an obsession with our culture
@greglouch
@greglouch 4 жыл бұрын
Dame has been talking about the culture since the 90s
@TGF25
@TGF25 4 жыл бұрын
Greg Adams Bullshit! Dame felt guilty after he tried to make Cam'ron the President of Roc A Fella behind Jay's back & that was the last straw for Jay! That marketing meeting Dame crashed was for The Black Album & Jay was the one who called it & it was his last album b4 he became President of Def Jam!
@lawistruth
@lawistruth 4 жыл бұрын
@@TGF25 this interesting
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 3 жыл бұрын
Dame didn’t realize that when Kevin Lyles was saying “handle your business” repeatedly he was trying to tell let him know what was up.
@javiermejia8976
@javiermejia8976 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about ?
@dariusthepoetictruth5676
@dariusthepoetictruth5676 3 жыл бұрын
Jay already DEADED dame. DECODED. He got tired of his business tactics. It finally caught up to him
@christopherpatrick6012
@christopherpatrick6012 2 жыл бұрын
@@javiermejia8976 damn u is stupid my man
@dariusthepoetictruth5676
@dariusthepoetictruth5676 2 жыл бұрын
You saw how he was still tryna hold on
@weirdsideelly3111
@weirdsideelly3111 Жыл бұрын
Lets put it like this when dame said "who set the meeting then?" He didnt realize the answer was jay did.jay was already one foot out the door and dame didnt see it.
@kswing007
@kswing007 5 жыл бұрын
BET Needs to produce ROC the Movie so we can get the real story of the rise and fall of the empire.
@sirrdapo1882
@sirrdapo1882 4 жыл бұрын
KRoyal it’s easy jay a snake and snaked his own people rise and fall right there
@decembersveryown5935
@decembersveryown5935 4 жыл бұрын
No. Documentary
@whykatera81
@whykatera81 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck BET
@l.d.watson5090
@l.d.watson5090 3 жыл бұрын
BET would be the worst network to do it
@vincentestone5764
@vincentestone5764 3 жыл бұрын
THIS is as REAL as you'll EVER get it. You're getting it STRAIGHT from The HORSE'S MOUTHS. But YOU a "Produced" version. TRY being an ACCURATE Thinker for once.
@mylesbankhead1384
@mylesbankhead1384 3 жыл бұрын
“Find out what happens... when people stop being polite, and start being real. This is the real world, Rocafella Records.”
@BROCKETTXCELL
@BROCKETTXCELL 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@stormdemon5479
@stormdemon5479 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo! I just pictured the intro lmaoo
@cliffordrogers2734
@cliffordrogers2734 2 жыл бұрын
That the realist shit ever spoke king i was just thinking the same shit they so dam fake it hurts them to see real real talk OG.
@Ray-fd4yb
@Ray-fd4yb 2 жыл бұрын
@@cliffordrogers2734 he talked himself irrelevant and broke, dame is a lame 🤣
@cliffordrogers2734
@cliffordrogers2734 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ray-fd4yb Your right.
@chulababy6366
@chulababy6366 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Z orchestrated that whole ordeal behind the scenes..That’s messed up!!!
@youngdez8314
@youngdez8314 5 жыл бұрын
How you feel when you go to work and they try to play you like you dumb 🤣🤣🤣
@lifestyleofshonda
@lifestyleofshonda 2 жыл бұрын
No fr !
@nicknicknick6719
@nicknicknick6719 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao the posters are the walls crack me up. 😆😂 It's like a early 2000's video game
@faxxxovafeels
@faxxxovafeels 5 жыл бұрын
Notice how many times Dame refers to Jay as “my artist” but no mention of “my partner”.
@eastside313yahdig.2
@eastside313yahdig.2 4 жыл бұрын
FaXXX Ova Feels that’s business/legal talk are you listening??? He said that’s illegal
@faxxxovafeels
@faxxxovafeels 4 жыл бұрын
Officer Orange cheetolini yeah I listened but you must’ve not read what I wrote. If you and someone are PARTNERS, you don’t refer to them as “my artist”. You would refer to them as “my partner”. That alone shows Dame thought he was in a higher position than Jay. He was sadly mistaken.
@eastside313yahdig.2
@eastside313yahdig.2 4 жыл бұрын
FaXXX Ova Feels he was his artist tho🤷🏻‍♂️
@offthegridbutonyoutube548
@offthegridbutonyoutube548 4 жыл бұрын
Officer Orange cheetolini If Jay was part owner of the label, then Jay was his own artist as well.
@eastside313yahdig.2
@eastside313yahdig.2 4 жыл бұрын
off the grid, but on KZbin but who’s to say that jay would make better decisions then dame. Jay chased the money and looked out for himself which who am I to say anything bad about him 🤷🏻‍♂️ but if we’re keeping it real and I mean really real Dame is right. Them fake jews divided them base of greed. We’ve been falling for this for centuries
@thegreek2640
@thegreek2640 4 жыл бұрын
Being nice in this world & you will FALL behind..
@kjsgirl8792
@kjsgirl8792 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about a hostile work environment 😳
@dirttdog1
@dirttdog1 4 жыл бұрын
Dame in there SPAZZING 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️
@pmaii7707
@pmaii7707 4 жыл бұрын
Def Jam was a crazy house at the height of everyone’s career
@crystalgray79
@crystalgray79 4 жыл бұрын
Dame had that Kanye disease. You can’t be a business man acting like this.
@BROCKETTXCELL
@BROCKETTXCELL 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@kurtisschilk1218
@kurtisschilk1218 3 жыл бұрын
@Yahsone A white CEO would have lost his job over this video
@micjones9046
@micjones9046 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Jay pimped Rocafella from Dame. He Used Def Jam to buy the label then became Def Jam president. Lol. The birth of Roc Nation.
@eihill44
@eihill44 5 жыл бұрын
boy we used to dress crazy back in the day lol
@netty1221
@netty1221 5 жыл бұрын
Worrrrrd remember the dress t shirts niggas was really standing around wid a t almost down to di ground 😭😭😭😭😱😱😱😱😱
@trudytriad4574
@trudytriad4574 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sbrooks904
@sbrooks904 5 жыл бұрын
They dress crazier now tbh
@waxdoe115
@waxdoe115 4 жыл бұрын
Naw... Them tight ass jeans be crazy.
@semyaza555
@semyaza555 4 жыл бұрын
We?
@dusthue
@dusthue Жыл бұрын
Dame catching snakes being snakes. That is the way to do it.
@LionKing-ox1dr
@LionKing-ox1dr 5 жыл бұрын
Jay was done with Dame already.He already moved on.
@icebergmays
@icebergmays 4 жыл бұрын
@tommy cane115 Jay got tired of Dame holding him back.
@Kingaoiun57831
@Kingaoiun57831 4 жыл бұрын
Because Dame acted like this all the time and people stopped wanting to work with him because they didn't want to deal with this type of crap from Dame. If Jay didn't walk away he would have ended up a has been.
@sbakernyc5761
@sbakernyc5761 4 жыл бұрын
@tommy cane115 aint on the Jews on Dame. Dame don't know how to talk to people or act in a professional manner. He never grew and matured from the steet mindset like Jay did. Dame needed Jay, Jay obviously didnt need Dame. Jay was also a OWNER of Rocafella and Dame out here calling Jay "MY ARTIST". Dame played himself. If he woulda known how to act he still woulda been part of Roc today.
@njabulonjabulo4759
@njabulonjabulo4759 4 жыл бұрын
@tommy cane115 then why can't he make another Jay????
@dramahawkpromotions9621
@dramahawkpromotions9621 3 жыл бұрын
@@icebergmays How Was Jay Holding Him Back?
@hectorreyes6200
@hectorreyes6200 Жыл бұрын
Dame is like Napoleon Bonaparte, won every battle (like this one), yet lost the war. Dame/Roc-A-Fella was among the most popular/profitable brand/label, Def Jam must’ve been fed up with Dame for them to make the moves that lead to its demise. Jay and Def Jam negotiated behind closed doors and, once everything was in place, they blindsided Dame.
@gavingavalli389
@gavingavalli389 2 жыл бұрын
This should be studied in a business class on the importance of diplomacy. It’s my understanding that he handled most of his business affairs like this
@xaviermagnate
@xaviermagnate 6 ай бұрын
FACTS!!!
@Hiphopdatruthnohate
@Hiphopdatruthnohate 9 ай бұрын
The real hard worker always gets no respect.
@jaypee9406
@jaypee9406 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Z was no snake Dame was messing up relationship talking crazy to everyone you can't do business that way
@AnastasiaOctavia
@AnastasiaOctavia 4 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is Jay played his cards right remember the black album was when he was going into retirement Jay knew exactly what he was doing! HE PLAYED THE GAME RIGHT!!
@zerotattsreviews9767
@zerotattsreviews9767 Жыл бұрын
Jay is Always a snake. Played the game right???? Snake
@TonyFlockaaBGN
@TonyFlockaaBGN Жыл бұрын
@@zerotattsreviews9767 it’s just business bro
@TonyFlockaaBGN
@TonyFlockaaBGN Жыл бұрын
@@zerotattsreviews9767 sounds like your green . You’ll definitely let someone fck u over with out doin it first or even see it coming
@rgh5069
@rgh5069 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny watching Dame realize that he's losing his power. LMFAO
@DJdot1000
@DJdot1000 4 жыл бұрын
He acting like a kid
@LydiaH72
@LydiaH72 4 жыл бұрын
He was just too damn EMOTIONAL!!
@ilovemytribe
@ilovemytribe 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what his astrological sun sign is?
@jasonwaterfalls9615
@jasonwaterfalls9615 4 жыл бұрын
ilovemytribe Taurus
@madzee673
@madzee673 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovemytribe He’s a Taurus sun with a Leo Moon. I guess his Leo Moon and other Aries placements explain a lot.
@ilovemytribe
@ilovemytribe 3 жыл бұрын
@@madzee673 So his sun in Taurus makes him stubborn persona wise, Leo moon, what does the Leo moon do, I know Leo is fiery...
@madzee673
@madzee673 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovemytribe His Leo Moon makes him loud, fiery, aggressive, and honestly kind of egotistical. He might’ve had an exaggerated sense of self, even more so than a Leo Sun would have because of how personal your Moon sign is to you, and how personal his Moon sign would be to him. His Taurus Sun coupled with his Leo Moon, I think, can definitely explain his love for money, control, and power. However, his Leo Moon could’ve been battling with his Taurus Sun due to the fact that Leo and Taurus square each other. He might’ve had some inner conflicts, like deeply wanting to be seen and heard (Leo Moon, the planet of your emotions, subconscious) vs wanting to collect luxuries subtly, stably, reliably (Taurus Sun, the planet of the self).
@vuyi4real
@vuyi4real 5 жыл бұрын
This guy actually believed that Jay-Z was just another one of his artists
@greatnesss8747
@greatnesss8747 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@saynicklos3053
@saynicklos3053 4 жыл бұрын
No. At one point they were friends.
@desgunn2671
@desgunn2671 4 жыл бұрын
Umm.. that's exactly what he was though
@vuyi4real
@vuyi4real 4 жыл бұрын
@@desgunn2671 No, Jay-Z was his equal partner
@jerzman02
@jerzman02 4 жыл бұрын
We know.....
@philadelphiared
@philadelphiared 5 жыл бұрын
This was the beginning of the end of the label. Mr. Dash know something was wrong because like he stated earlier, who can the distributor have a meeting about an artist from another label. Def Jam was the distributor and Rocafella, the label. I believe that’s why he was so animated. He can feel it slipping through his fingers as the minutes roll by.
@coachadamtaylor38
@coachadamtaylor38 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a Def Jam Vendetta poster. Classic! Classic! Game
@nisham9378
@nisham9378 4 жыл бұрын
My son use to play that game and so did i back in the day, i loved that game lol
@sharpvision6613
@sharpvision6613 2 жыл бұрын
He could've handled this issue a million different ways. You don't talk to people like this without consequences. After these outbursts Dame became a pariah.
@waxdoe115
@waxdoe115 4 жыл бұрын
They back doored dame. He was for his ppl smh.
@ksanders249
@ksanders249 4 жыл бұрын
Meaning back doored ?
@lsantiful1
@lsantiful1 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, he wasn't he was for himself
@Jc-si6pj
@Jc-si6pj 4 жыл бұрын
Wax Doe nah that was fear talking he’s useless without jay
@OnlyTheReal13
@OnlyTheReal13 2 жыл бұрын
He cursing n*ggas out in tube socks 😂
@thedopest
@thedopest Жыл бұрын
fast forward to present day...... Lyor is rich as fuck and dame's living in 1999.
@TracksInTheLab
@TracksInTheLab 5 жыл бұрын
Ruthless Dame he took Jay Z and got him to the top of the game without lyrics backing him! Dame was behind scenes making the RIGHT moves smh Roc 4 Life
@dirtytv334
@dirtytv334 5 жыл бұрын
Without lyrics huh what you waffling about I'm confused
@dlkc2000
@dlkc2000 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Z took himself to the top and made Dame rich. Jay had more money than Dame from the beginning. Jay had a condo in NY with whips before a record deal. They used to have meetings in Jay's crib. Biggs is the only one that could compare to the money Jay had which is why he was the silent partner that financed a lot of the early endeavors. Dame was a manager of acts and knew more about the music industry than they did. That's why Jay allowed him to represent him. Dame sold dope for about a year and that's it. He's not like Jay.
@iamyourbiggestfan6420
@iamyourbiggestfan6420 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm nicer than a bitch, ask the nigga Dash No he don't count cause I'm makin his ass rich" -Jay Z on "I can't get wit that" "I heard motherfuckas sayin' they made Hov Made Hov say, "Okay, so- make another Hov!" Jay Z on "Lost One"
@arcangel4940
@arcangel4940 5 жыл бұрын
They were pushing dame out
@Empirenetwork2
@Empirenetwork2 4 жыл бұрын
Yep agreed
@archersmith869
@archersmith869 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t mad at def Jam He knew what JayZ would do Because it was just smart business and he couldn’t talk like that to JAYZ
@decembersveryown5935
@decembersveryown5935 4 жыл бұрын
And now everyone knows Dame was right.
@dimdime3164
@dimdime3164 2 ай бұрын
His socks reaching for the stars ✨ 😂
@dmvconartists1855
@dmvconartists1855 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing about the "handle your business" comment 😂
@sosiimartinez2268
@sosiimartinez2268 4 жыл бұрын
Jay kept you out boo.. And they are laughing and being calm because they know Jay is leaving.
@samuelwright1395
@samuelwright1395 2 жыл бұрын
They still bitch ass people, be real why hide it.
@michaelisaac4439
@michaelisaac4439 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelwright1395 dame supposed to be a business man talking about “his” artist but he’s not even intune with what jay was doing definitely on him
@samuelwright1395
@samuelwright1395 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelisaac4439 true but one can never know, unless you tell him face to face like a man not go behind his back like he scared with something to hide or doing yo boy dirty.
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 2 жыл бұрын
So fucced up.
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelisaac4439 You are hearing, "My artist" wrong. Also it wasn't on Dame to compensate for Jay's refusal to communicate by reading his mind. Jay had the PLAN to be on the sneak and make it look like a "chess move" when it was just plain old betrayal. There is a whole context and long history of Jay's snake-ass behavior (up to this day) that must be factored here.
@rafaelvelasquez5455
@rafaelvelasquez5455 2 жыл бұрын
This is when Dame got introduced to "The Real Game" $ 💯 🙌
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 2 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about Snake-Z's betrayal, yeah. If you're talking about the Music Industry being shady AF, no: Damon had his own experience with the music industry BEFORE Shawn Corey was ever a factor.
@Ray-fd4yb
@Ray-fd4yb 2 жыл бұрын
@@0Lu.Lu0 isn't being wealthy the end game? Dames broke and Jay is a billionaire.
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 Жыл бұрын
@@Ray-fd4yb I mean if you have to ask what the Endgame is….. I can provide you with a link to send balance sheets from these two mens’ accounts, since you speak so confidently about their personal finances. Not sure what to provide neither for the fact that you seem to think being “Broke” is living as large and happy as Dame is AND HAS BEEN FOR OVER TEN YEARS NOW-especially compared to most who wanna condemn him for the crime of not being Jay-Z (or at least what ytman’s media TELLS YOU about being Jay-Z); nor for the fact that you seem to be incapable making a characterization of someone separate from what they have (allegedly) or don’t have (allegedly). What does it do for you to say “Dame is Broke”, Especially when that definition differs from person-to-person, based upon their own priorities for their own life and therefore the “Game” they are playing and therefore how they win? So you think all money is good money? So you’ve built a 700-million-dollar company in YOUR 20’s with no MBA or previous corporate training? So you’ve sold your own fashion line for 50 million as reported in WSJ? So you put 4 kids through private school while an entrepreneur? So you cut and sew your own high-quality clothes with organic fibers? So you grow your own food and monetize health and wellness around that? So you own your own 24-hour television network and App and get personal coaching from another Black Man whose already reached ACTUAL “Billy Status” doing the same years before you, named Byron Allen? Do you know about the Supreme Court case? Do you know about the OTHER case Dame won years ago on the grounds of “Tortious Interference”? Bet I can’t even REACH you with the fact that Billionaires shouldn’t even exist and don’t actually matter? Bet you don’t know what Specific Performance is and why I would even bring it up in this context. Bet that Bezos thanked the Amazon employees and/or customers for paying his boyhood dream of taking his ytass to the moon went right over your head. I could break a sweat and go on, but I’m gonna stop here and just plead with you to mature past indicting a person based upon such a simplistic and ignorant-of-the facts perspective.
@marineman74
@marineman74 2 жыл бұрын
Point blank: Jay wanted to grow and diversify. Dame thought he was “The Godfather” and treated people like they were below him. He was a toxic boss and wanted unbridled loyalty.
@carterwongg6975
@carterwongg6975 2 жыл бұрын
Facts look how he dressed, trying to intimidate people, and throwing around the word nigga like that Jay Z would never
@calvinbrown5597
@calvinbrown5597 2 жыл бұрын
Jay is talented no doubt, but he lacks principles. Either that or he doesn't care about anyone but himself. Anyone that does their own friends is a sellout
@marineman74
@marineman74 2 жыл бұрын
@@calvinbrown5597 nah. Jay just believed in capitalism. Principles haven’t gotten black folks anywhere and we live and die by the “loyalty” fallacy.
@supersampio
@supersampio 2 жыл бұрын
@@marineman74 if they were together Jay-Z probably won't be as successful as he is now.
@marineman74
@marineman74 2 жыл бұрын
@@calvinbrown5597 so growing and evoking is called sellout? When the friends around you get comfortable where they’re at but you wanna grow and evolve you gotta leave them where they are at.
@darryldeas411
@darryldeas411 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Dame handled these executives. He BEEN trying to show us.
@user-xm6ro1ep5d
@user-xm6ro1ep5d 2 жыл бұрын
Show us what ?
@darryldeas411
@darryldeas411 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiemac-637 my point...all these new cats is getting the ROBBED with no gun and Dame BEEN g-checking these "culture vulture" executives.
@darryldeas411
@darryldeas411 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiemac-637 you just talking. 1st a CEO can't get fired my guy. These Lil dudes ARE getting ROBBED like crazy and if they knew what Dame knew ain't no way they'd be getting Robbed.
@darryldeas411
@darryldeas411 2 жыл бұрын
That record labels main goal is to ROB the artist.
@CodyCole80
@CodyCole80 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t “handle” anything because this situation didn’t end in his favor. All Dame did was burn a lot of bridges with all that barking and disrespect. Contrast him to Jay today. In the end, they’ll both pay the piper for all the destructive music they’ve put out to their own people. No difference in selling crack. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@simplekid4328
@simplekid4328 4 жыл бұрын
"I dont know how to use email" The most basic thing on internet
@bf7504
@bf7504 2 жыл бұрын
The way he tried to conduct business is the reason he is in the position he is. Jay wouldn't be where he is if dame stayed around
@finalbossoftheinternet6002
@finalbossoftheinternet6002 3 жыл бұрын
Dame obviously never read the (48 Laws of power) I work for a large corporation, that book is a MUST if you want to be successful in Business.
@Nomarandus
@Nomarandus 4 жыл бұрын
3:10 Back when Joe Budden was Joe Buddens lol
@2purdy319
@2purdy319 5 жыл бұрын
Dame Dash or Dame Dummy? 😂 Now I see what Nas meant by that line 😂
@ELPIRATA14BERT
@ELPIRATA14BERT 4 жыл бұрын
Damon Dash screamings on the big wig and stands on his toes. Jay allows the NFL commissioner to laugh and giggle when hes talking about negros getting clapped by cops. 2 different men . One ain't scared to bark because he knows hes a boss. One only talks boss to his own people ,but turns into a real studdering puppy when "other" people in the room. 👀
@adonisstroke4323
@adonisstroke4323 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you called this out. Jay was a bitch in front of those NFL white men. When the report asked J questions. He had to look at Roger Goodell before answering.
@leyroy1980
@leyroy1980 4 жыл бұрын
@@adonisstroke4323 so I guess you won't watch a single game this year right? Because if you do your a hypocrite.....
@tensegritywill
@tensegritywill 4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@worldnewz6963
@worldnewz6963 4 жыл бұрын
That Chico- Bert 2 different approaches JayZ tries to change from in the building and Dame would rather try to tear the establishment down. Either way the change will take a long time
@GMacII
@GMacII 4 жыл бұрын
CarFAX!!!
@LU.D3Z3
@LU.D3Z3 4 ай бұрын
Pulled up w the west coast gang banger fit 😂🔥
@akimbah
@akimbah 3 жыл бұрын
Dame one of the real ones He is what a Black man should be in America a true warrior
@abrahampalmer8761
@abrahampalmer8761 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mrdontpl8y
@mrdontpl8y 5 жыл бұрын
Dame didn't say shit wrong.... Big OG....
@ashleyshort6141
@ashleyshort6141 3 жыл бұрын
Can't get into a pissing contest with people who don't need you.
@briang2481
@briang2481 2 жыл бұрын
Facts Mac g
@demetrawest9914
@demetrawest9914 2 жыл бұрын
Dame straight got played and good bc dude was arrogant af every time I watched this I feel the same way Dame needed some humble pie fr fr 😂
@visionstofeel2508
@visionstofeel2508 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it flowing when you releasing part 2?.. I know they shut you down before so I didn’t get to see the full set hopefully I will this time around
@kennethherring3894
@kennethherring3894 3 жыл бұрын
love him or hate him this is exactly what the hip hop culture needed, someone to step to all the vultures that's profiting through the same equation, you get the fame and they take the fortune. i would have paid 10 racks to see lyor Cohen there in his office with Dame running around blasting all those clowns.
@aaronfore1751
@aaronfore1751 3 жыл бұрын
shut up. dont know what the hell youre talking about
@thestayathomedad4240
@thestayathomedad4240 2 жыл бұрын
Same guy you defending married a white girl 😂
@Zosima45
@Zosima45 Жыл бұрын
@@thestayathomedad4240 so he likes fucking white women.. what's your point 😅
@stevenlynch3010
@stevenlynch3010 Жыл бұрын
So?
@kennethherring3894
@kennethherring3894 Жыл бұрын
@@thestayathomedad4240 yep! He sure did, and I think that will take away all the wisdom and knowledge he shares with the culture, I guess in your mind it diminishes all the truth! Nobody needs to defend Dame , I guarantee you , that you’re not going to step to him with your foolishness, he’ll put you right back in your disrespectful place!
@ELLIOTTARMY
@ELLIOTTARMY 2 жыл бұрын
I've never witnessed somebody be so right, yet so wrong at the same time. jay was never dames artist.
@Eyesofpeso
@Eyesofpeso 11 ай бұрын
He was. Def Jam was just distributing records
@tony4534
@tony4534 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@EyesofpesoJay was never Dame artist.
@TheHotspotNet313
@TheHotspotNet313 3 жыл бұрын
3:09 one of the greatest podcasters to touch the mic 😂😂😂
@CFREUp
@CFREUp 2 ай бұрын
Dame hates all lawyers 😂😂💯💯💯
@spiritualwarriorhealer6154
@spiritualwarriorhealer6154 2 жыл бұрын
Truly this was my life on $10.00 level. Dash is obviously the engine master mind behind the scenes these kinda people stand out too much speak too frank but everybody emulates them but nobody has the heart to be like em. Peace! thanks for the cam video..
@adasmith9316
@adasmith9316 5 жыл бұрын
The minute dame know jay playd him
@michaelbonica8962
@michaelbonica8962 4 жыл бұрын
Jay is a snake it's evident just by the way he talks, moves
@bdove2007
@bdove2007 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Bonica dame screwed jay first by making Camron president of the roc
@QUNYC7
@QUNYC7 4 жыл бұрын
@@bdove2007 Facts! He had to really show Dame who's the real boss of "THE ROC"..
@KingKratos79
@KingKratos79 4 жыл бұрын
@@bdove2007 if that's True then that's fuced up
@bdove2007
@bdove2007 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Love lol you can look it up. Dame made Cam’Ron president of the roc when Jay didn’t like Cam. Dame fucked with cam because he is from Harlem like him
@mr123mackable
@mr123mackable 4 жыл бұрын
Dame and Choke ..that's a big building..wow..thanks Dame !!!✊
@2nvsolo451
@2nvsolo451 3 жыл бұрын
Mistake #1. Calling Jay-Z "My artist" probably didnt help matters. Mistake #2 burning your bridges
@fabulouseddie9488
@fabulouseddie9488 Жыл бұрын
Mistake 1 being dame dash
@etoilemontante9344
@etoilemontante9344 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I blame dame, is that he didn’t saw that the one who was screwing him, was Jay Z him self
@BklynBlinks
@BklynBlinks 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Z is the one that set the meeting up, he knew about it and he knew you didnt know
@Crazea
@Crazea 4 ай бұрын
Must've been a long time ago man, dame was like, "I don't know hot use a email" lol.
@BlackJesus2047
@BlackJesus2047 3 жыл бұрын
That secretary was nice as hell lol
@ruffgook
@ruffgook 4 жыл бұрын
that's some culturre right there, so powerful and respectful lmao
@Edgesofnowhere008
@Edgesofnowhere008 3 жыл бұрын
That tall white tee tells me this footage is circa 2003.
@ahmadjeffries3965
@ahmadjeffries3965 3 жыл бұрын
He went on to became def jam president 😂😂 jay still one of my fav rappers tho
@genoweapon4800
@genoweapon4800 Жыл бұрын
This sounds like a man with no fear
@athi-enkosimapukata1478
@athi-enkosimapukata1478 2 жыл бұрын
Dame never shied away from saying what he felt.
@jonathanshabazz7956
@jonathanshabazz7956 4 жыл бұрын
Jay was planning to ditch Dame, at that very time.,
@WO2411
@WO2411 3 жыл бұрын
This nigga Dame was living State Property in real life 😭
@thediaz07
@thediaz07 Жыл бұрын
Gotta give it to Dame for being able to talk shit in a white tee and basketball shorts.
@delmeshiabrown8480
@delmeshiabrown8480 3 жыл бұрын
So he was treating Jay like an artist when Jay was his partner? Jay, Dame and Biggs all co founded Rocafella, Jay just happened to be an artist. I see why Jay left and wanted to do his own thing…
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect.
@delmeshiabrown8480
@delmeshiabrown8480 2 жыл бұрын
@@0Lu.Lu0 what’s incorrect?
@tchakeemn
@tchakeemn 4 жыл бұрын
Smartest move Jay Z ever made was leaving this fool
@LUVLELEO100
@LUVLELEO100 2 жыл бұрын
Dame said put sum respeck on my name😩🤣😂‼️
@bigpun2k6
@bigpun2k6 5 жыл бұрын
always wanted to know choke,is that freekey zeekey on the adlibs on the intro choke no joke infamous song or you? I know you had a mixtape as well and I thought it was dope.
@enzigenes
@enzigenes 5 жыл бұрын
Jay came out on top, but Dame fought and took wounds for the team. Dame was on the frontline. He had a hot head, but he was a fighter. Nobody is perfect. I personally would've appreciated Dame even though he's an asshole. Some people just need to be G-Checked.
@sacoope1
@sacoope1 2 ай бұрын
Damon Dash should have called Jay Z to find out what was happening.
@ChokeNoJokeArthurDAlstonIII
@ChokeNoJokeArthurDAlstonIII 2 ай бұрын
I agree. At the time it looked like Def Jam was the culprits
@Franknitti-wk1tu
@Franknitti-wk1tu Жыл бұрын
Maaan that joe budden picture got me weak🤣🤣🤣 dame funny ass hell
@mikegee6523
@mikegee6523 8 ай бұрын
How times change .. Dame saying “ I don’t know how to use an email , you don’t confirm a meeting with emails .” .. sounds crazy
@brandmoney
@brandmoney 4 жыл бұрын
6:45 LMAO Kevin Liles use to have Dame mad af.
@zelle908
@zelle908 3 ай бұрын
Jay was never your artist bro 😂
@FunkoFrenzy
@FunkoFrenzy 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly could listen to dame talk shit all day lol
@classicola
@classicola 3 жыл бұрын
lol the way he said “Randy Acker. clown!” had me thinking Randy Acker was a professional clown for a moment..
@sausageandbeanmelt4634
@sausageandbeanmelt4634 2 жыл бұрын
*Fact:* The last 20 years prove Jay-Z was right *Opinion:* Jay-Z perceived that Dame was only at the top because of the value of Dame's equity in Jay-Z. Further, Jay-Z perceived that Dame's management of his equity was diluting his Jay-Z's total value. Jay-Z and Dame's contribution was never equal, solely in relation to Jay-Z. Even if Dame was responsible for 100% of all the other artists, those artists were 10% of Rocafella and Jay-Z was 90%. Lots of comments on 'culture this, culture that'. 'Dame this, Dame that'. They went their own ways like a divorce. Jay-Z simply kept the value he brought to relationship (the masters). Jay-Z also kept most of the friends as people liked him better.
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