Life in prison doesn't mean life for murderers. Their victims haven't got that choice. These people made sure of that!
@skylarkman2000 Жыл бұрын
Life in this country is a joke . Should be like in the USA. Life means Life . Two of the Manson gang have now done 50 years inside .
@gnomely1 Жыл бұрын
Cumbria isn't a town in northern England. It's a county and its name indicates that it was the land of Cambrians or Welsh people.
@leftin7411 ай бұрын
Cumbria no longer exists as of April 2023. You now have Cumberland and Westmorland and Furness . Reverting back to 1974
@gnomely111 ай бұрын
@@leftin74 I'm delighted that they've reverted to pre-1974 status. There was litle or no sense behind the 1974 nonsense. I'm from Northumberland and, like many others, I deeply resented the absurd ersatz county of Tyne and Wear. My comment was solely in response to this video.
@mrmods791211 ай бұрын
There where 296 murders in the UK in 1964, yet only one of these ended up in the use of the death penalty. What sort of justice system operates like that? No wonder it was abolished in Dec 1969!
@CarputingYT Жыл бұрын
I just realized this video blew up holy thanks everyone this is inspiring to make more history content
@madade27 Жыл бұрын
it was in Wandsworth prison until 1992.
@stuartinnes819 ай бұрын
From sarah liverpool .I looked after Peters son who was very disabled ,, Ii was 13 _16 from 85 so looked like his dad he lived with me in Wavertree liverpool I was fostered and my mum worked in olive Mt hospital as an sen nurse .I would teach him to communicate with a towel ,swim and change him of a night I would push him in his wheelchair at the arts centre .he was the most beautiful human being who used to find such joy in the most simplistic of things and laugh so much that I can still hear it nearly 36 years later .😢❤
@brendasg1552 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the death penalty and replace it with 10 - 15 years in prison. What can possibly go wrong?.
@mr.atomic2970 Жыл бұрын
Knifecrime intensifies
@640626 Жыл бұрын
10-15 years for murder thats a cheap price to pay to take another persons life that means you can be out within 7-8 years if you brush your teeths and go to bed as you shall. 25-40 years should be more Adequate.
@mr.atomic2970 Жыл бұрын
@@640626 death penalty is the best.
@andrewemery4272 Жыл бұрын
Cumbria is a County, not a town.
@Spillers72 Жыл бұрын
There was only 4 months between the crime and the execution.
@floatybyboaty Жыл бұрын
On conviction, three clear Sundays and you were dispatched. No 10 years plus on death row in England
@brianperry Жыл бұрын
When the death penalty was abolished l expected it to be replaced with actual life in prison...instead it was replaced with 10-15 years for some cases...Hanging was never justice but vengeance....ie:-Derick Bentley.
@vespelian Жыл бұрын
Cumbria is not a town.
@GlennPowell-ls3lg Жыл бұрын
It may never happen but I think there was a caviat to abolishing the death penalty in the UK which would allow it still in the event of attempted murder/murder of the monach? There was a working gallows in a prison ( forget which one) until quite recently.
@sethpujol170410 ай бұрын
The UK infuriates me with their BS justice system and I don't even live there. It's an absolute joke! When I'm watching a doc. on netflix or something and the UK will give a serial killer 20 years in prison I wanna throw something at my tv! I couldn't imagine being a family member of a victim and watch a judge basically hand out a slap on the wrist to their psychotic murderer.
@chrisclarke782810 ай бұрын
You will be surprised that some years ago a young professional footballer had a 15 year old female fan in his car, he was found guilty of 'kissing her' and nothing else. He was given 7 years prison and lost his career. The next day a 17 year old scumbag kicked a 70 year old man to death in the street. He was given 3 years youth custody.
@Cassius..9 ай бұрын
Yes give us the laws well sentences like in the U.S. where someone is charged for #ape amd gets the proper sentence not 4 years and out in 2 with good behaviour or murder and getting 10 out in 6 it’s billshit.
@alastairgreen2077 Жыл бұрын
The newspaper could have at least used a photo of the proper noose, not the one use in the USA.
@sockington12 жыл бұрын
cumbria is not a town you berk
@wendynicklin7693 Жыл бұрын
A British movie I think is 10 rillington pl!! A innocent man was executed !
@Cassius.. Жыл бұрын
It was David Evans. Christie murdered his wife and unborn child, blamed it on Christie but the police didn’t believe him, it was when the. new occupants of the house found the bodies of numerous people Christie was caught and hanged.
@skylarkman2000 Жыл бұрын
An excellent film . Sooo sad about Tim Evans.
@sheilaroddick585310 ай бұрын
I think Evans daughter was about 16 months old and Christie strangled her with a tie.
@wendynicklin769310 ай бұрын
@@sheilaroddick5853 had nightmares after watching the movie
@sheilaroddick585310 ай бұрын
@@wendynicklin7693 Evans was in North Wales visiting his mother who told the police that was true.So they hung him anyway.
@davebinks Жыл бұрын
The trouble with saying hang only those who "definitely" killed someone is what about the ones who "almost definitely" killed, do you hang them also? And the ones who "probably" killed, hang them? My point is that it's a slippery slope, where do you stop? There have been numerous instances of people being found guilty of killing, but later were proved not to have done it. If you have hanged them, they can't be released, even though it's now acknowledged they were innocent. I have no problem in someone being given a life sentence, and serving life. But if it later transpires they were innocent, thay can be released. How would YOU feel if you were found guilty of murder when you didn't do it? Would you be happy to be hung? The fact is it DOESN'T DETER. During the public hangngs that used to held, where pickpocets and the like were hung, other pickpockets operated in the crowd watching!! Many murderers don't think about the consequences, they just do it on the spur of the moment, or think they will get away with it. Ask yourself a question - do you speed in your car when there is a police car following you? It's the same punishment as if there is no police car following you. The difference is your chance of getting caught.
@derekstocker6661 Жыл бұрын
Very good comment, I am all for a whole of life sentence rather than execution, as you say you cannot release, or compensate someone who has wrongfully met the ultimate fate but, Life should mean just that, we see far too many killers getting a "Life Sentence" that means absolutely no such thing. Now they hand out life sentences in multiples to make up a more acceptable to the public sentence that STILL means no such thing as a life sentence, so little punishment and absolutely no deterrent. We now have the farce of killers guilty of more than one murder being released, what value is there on human life, especially in Britain.
@terrygabriel6937 Жыл бұрын
The law, forensic science and technology has moved on in leaps and bounds since capital punishment was a reality. There was no DNA, no CCTV, no tape recording or video of police interviews. No custody time limits, no statutory rights to have a lawyer on tap. No CPS or Criminal Cases review Commission to review evidence and refer matters to the Appeal courts. The chances of anyone being wrongfully charged or convicted is highly unlikely in this day and age. Besides with lay jurors who can hardly read the oath would be too frightened to convict on overwhelming evidence if the penalty was mandatory death.
@brucenichols91532 жыл бұрын
Best to give them hard labour for life, death is too good for them
@mr.atomic2970 Жыл бұрын
Thats what my mother allways says.
@vespelian Жыл бұрын
So the tabloids would have us believe.
@alanhindmarch4483 Жыл бұрын
CUMBRIA isn’t a Town, it’s a County. They wouldn’t have dropped out of School at 15 years of age, as that was the normal age for leasing school at that time.
@clambroth192311 ай бұрын
They were both still in the 4th grade at age 15 when they finally (were) drop (kicked) out of the school system.
@petew52896 ай бұрын
I left school in December 1971 at age 15 it went to 16 in1972
@alanhindmarch44836 ай бұрын
@@petew5289 I left school in 1969 at 15, but could have stayed till 16 to do GCSE’s.
@petew52896 ай бұрын
@@alanhindmarch4483 stayed on for one term in 5th year decided I'd had enough and left in December
@janebufton1960 Жыл бұрын
Certain crimes such as murder with intention, and treason. These should carry the death penalty.
@mr.atomic2970 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@MaxBrooks-es5kz Жыл бұрын
Terrorism too
@williambilly3269 Жыл бұрын
And trump worship
@beckyuk2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Cumbria is not a town
@johnbowkett802 жыл бұрын
Correct .... Cumbria is a sausage . 😜
@beckyuk2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbowkett80 really lol
@sockington12 жыл бұрын
@@johnbowkett80 fool
@AndrewGoodwin-w7j9 ай бұрын
I know someone whose father was killed by 2 robbers in his home. Got caught, but got off due to lack of evidence. Before dna, etc.
@mikeohagan22069 ай бұрын
thats when you have to take care of it yourself.
@glennf95822 жыл бұрын
Those were the days when there was justice.
@miketaverner44512 жыл бұрын
No they weren't, innocent people wrongly convicted and put to death say so . Yes it happened and not just once or twice. There is nothing just about that
@vespelian Жыл бұрын
The Daily Express is strong in this one. 🐑
@jackryder-sw9rk Жыл бұрын
Call it revenge murder because this is was what it was.
@vespelian Жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be poetic if you were to strung in a miscarriage of justice . ⚖️
@billroyal942 Жыл бұрын
Surely Timothy Evans would not agrée with you.
@maconescotland8996 Жыл бұрын
In case it was missed - they were executed at different prisons.
@raymondsawyer8626 Жыл бұрын
Walton Liverpool and Strangeway Manchester
@williambilly3269 Жыл бұрын
I live between both of them. I'm sure everyone is pleased to know
@bustercrabbe844710 ай бұрын
How many wrongful executions occurred in Great Britain? Executing the wrong person is murder.
@JohnDavies-cn3ro10 ай бұрын
Almost certainly a number - one of the worst was a man, wrongly hung for the murder of a shopkeeper in Swansea. His real 'crime', in about 1950, was to be a black man married to a white woman - the police openly told him that was why they aimed to hang him, but ensured there were no independent witnesses........
@sroevukasroevuka10 ай бұрын
Case of f around and find out.
@reesfleming Жыл бұрын
Rip. I've gone on hunger strike against the nps. The system works no different now
@andrewnewton2246 Жыл бұрын
The death penalty is never, ever acceptable.
@larshansson9442 Жыл бұрын
Lets continue with it. Very dangerous people should not exist. Today we have very good possibilities with the DNA and of course the cameras everywhere.
@tonylocke121411 ай бұрын
The number of executions of innocent people, was one of the major factors in the abolition of the death penalty. Even today, hundreds of wrongful executions are being, or have been carried out in the United States alone. Notwithstanding the numbers of illegal, wrongful, and unjustified, and malicious executions carried out in numerous countries around the world. So tell me, would you be comfortable with pulling the trigger on someone, knowing that you could well be taking the life of someone wrongfully convicted? If so, then I really don’t think that we could have a reasonable discussion on the subject.
@larshansson944211 ай бұрын
My concern is death penalties in western democratic countries not the "numerous countries around the world". Dictatorships are most of them evil by their nature. People who kill for pleasure, money or terror reasons should not exist and how do you know that hundreds of executions have been carried out in the U.S? Not in modern times with the possibillities of modern technologies of proofs. @@tonylocke1214
@vicvega36149 ай бұрын
@@tonylocke1214hundreds of wrongful executions? You mean wrongful convictions either way ur definitely full of shit
@daniellebrunel2960 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Glenn F. 100% agree with you unfortunately thing's have changed for the worse.
@2msvalkyrie529 Жыл бұрын
Yes. A great loss to humanity . Who knows ; they may have gone on to discover a cure for cancer ??
@rossbrown66418 ай бұрын
Pitiful English humour?
@ganrimmonim2 жыл бұрын
Please, G-D we live to see the abolition of the death penalty would wide.
@640626 Жыл бұрын
That will never happen because in the middle east the arab countries still live in the middle ages and punish people by the Quran and that will never end..
@PeterFlynn-bp5fi10 ай бұрын
Cumbria isnt.a town its a county of England
@larry18242 жыл бұрын
Wasn't he innocent?
@ganrimmonim2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves there was fairly good evidence that one of them was innocent but the authorities didn't want there to have been 'a last man hanged' in England.
@georgepatterson34282 жыл бұрын
Who?
@skylarkman2000 Жыл бұрын
@@georgepatterson3428 Peter Allen and Gwynn Evans .
@truthmediarebel5816 Жыл бұрын
The last person sentenced to death in UK was Liam Holden 1972 and I proved he was innocent. Framed by the police , Army and Gerry Adams.
@danocable10 ай бұрын
Gerry Adam’s was he IRA ?
@jackpresley32547 ай бұрын
Cumbria isn't a town it's a county. Also Lancashire and Cheshire are pronounced Lancasheer and Chesheer
@denisepurcell40315 ай бұрын
Thank you, it bugs me when places are renamed or moved 😊
@jackpresley32545 ай бұрын
@@denisepurcell4031 what are you on about?
@denisepurcell40315 ай бұрын
@@jackpresley3254 I was obviously referring to your post regarding the correct pronunciation of Lancashire and Cheshire etc and the fact that Cumbria is a County not a town.
@thomasbrookes2266 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that JAMES HANRATTY was the last
@normanpearson8753 Жыл бұрын
No , he was 1962 . Great case, that .DNA says he was guilty.
@JohnDavies-cn3ro10 ай бұрын
I did too, to be honest - I remember the Hanratty case, when I was a child. Hanratty got all the media attention, and this pair went out unnoticed.@@normanpearson8753
@denisepurcell40315 ай бұрын
So did I, hanged in Bedford
@zackzack3162 жыл бұрын
.. bring it back.....they will be very busy to execute soon or later most of the crap crossing the channel...
@fubartotale33892 жыл бұрын
Agreed, and lets not forget folks like you as well
@vespelian Жыл бұрын
And of course you will volunteer to die first to set an example won't you.
@exgunnerdaz2 жыл бұрын
Bring back hanging 🇬🇧
@anthonycaruso84432 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@antoniosilvestro9045 Жыл бұрын
No😊
@helengazzara872518 күн бұрын
What would that achieve?
@exgunnerdaz18 күн бұрын
@helengazzara8725 deterrent to would be murderers and saving millions in prison fees.
@helengazzara872518 күн бұрын
@ it is no deterrent
@normanpearson8753 Жыл бұрын
This was pre drugs England , presumably relatively crime free !
@michaeltimson40482 жыл бұрын
BRING BACK HANGING Mick Timson
@a444892 ай бұрын
All give up cars so they can reopen the death penalty
@johnskinner1119 Жыл бұрын
Really, including all those innocent people murdered by the state and subsequently pardoned !!
@petermarwood1653 Жыл бұрын
Cumbria is a county. Love the mispronounced name places!
@derek-press Жыл бұрын
Cumbria is a massive town ,just saying
@robertrobinson-9161 Жыл бұрын
I was born three days later
@JosephThomas-el3ze Жыл бұрын
I think the Death penalty should Be Brought Back in this country has a detarent and all so if anyone kill's some one than he or she should be hanged
@michaelsharpin3369 Жыл бұрын
Hanging is ok until they hang innocent people.
@jackryder-sw9rk Жыл бұрын
Albert Pierrepoint the last and most professional execution said he did not think it was a deterrent, notice the spelling.
@derek-press Жыл бұрын
@@jackryder-sw9rk nice spelling but you might need one of these in the future " , "
@jackryder-sw9rk Жыл бұрын
What is your point?@@derek-press
@derek-press Жыл бұрын
@@jackryder-sw9rk grammar is my point
@paullofthouse27082 жыл бұрын
The Last Execution in the United Kingdom. Was Mary Elllis. By Pierpoint.
@stevenbevis92902 жыл бұрын
Incorrect
@stevenbevis92902 жыл бұрын
Not Mary Ellis was Ruth but several executions after her but not by Pierrepoint . He resigned because of doubts over Ruth Ellis guilt .
@stephencorkhill31872 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbevis9290 nonsense pierpoint resigned when a convicted murderer was reprieved and the hone office refused to cover certain expenses he had incurred.Nothing to do with Ruth Ellis.
@carolramsey62872 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. Serious mental problems! Well every criminal nowadays has those. PTSD, ADHD or some other 'ism' or disorder. It's never their fault, they were 'deprived' or victims of systemic racism etc. In mediaeval times prisons were only used for holding the accused until trial. If guilty of serious or repeat offences they were banished or executed. Minor offences were dealt with in other unpleasant ways such as ad ay or two inthe stocks or flgging.. When the capital offences were downgraded in Tudor times, guess what? Yes the crime rate went up! I have long maintained that murderers rarely repeat their crimes, serial killers excepted. Persistent petty criminals however, are a constant drain on society and spend all their lives in and out of prison and being a pest in the community. If these two had been hanged for driving without a licence and their long history of offences they wouldn't have got as far as killing. If Colin Pitchfork had been hanged for flashing he wouldn't have raped and killed two young girls. Or perhaps as Mel Smith and Pamela Stephenson suggested on Not The Nine O'Clock News, we should just "Cut their goolies off!"
@susanlynch19662 жыл бұрын
Ruth Ellis was the last woman executed in the UK; not the last person.
@larry1824 Жыл бұрын
Well at least youre sorta famous
@richardmoss59342 жыл бұрын
Learn how to pronounce the names of counties!! The "shire" sounds hilarious!
@brettnaugher21762 жыл бұрын
The clothes cleaner was a englishman and inherintly stole people's clothes and England didn't appreciate his treatment. They have to get use to getting treatments.
@jensonank24092 жыл бұрын
What are you on about?
@brendasg1552 жыл бұрын
?
@fantomas30662 жыл бұрын
@@jensonank2409 du teinturier 😉
@johnshort50032 жыл бұрын
@@jensonank2409 He's right about treatments but the cleaner wasn't inherent (which he spells wrong).
@richardhewitt16482 жыл бұрын
@@johnshort5003 incorrectly.
@PD55_ Жыл бұрын
Last, until an angry UK population demands its return.
@mikdan88135 ай бұрын
Oi bruv, proper rude, innit?
@marioncannon9924 Жыл бұрын
Capital punishment is abhorrent
@mikeohagan22069 ай бұрын
and murder isnt? you would change your mind if it was someone in your family who was killed.
@a444892 ай бұрын
Factory processed
@carlogambacurta548 Жыл бұрын
Amusing
@jihnbrumfield4976 Жыл бұрын
Astronaut
@busreaa62825 ай бұрын
¡Pero los pueblos precolombinos eran "bárbaros" y los europeos muuuuy "civilizados"! Jajajaja jajajaja