THE LAST JEDI AND MARC'S TOP 10 OF 2017

[@nathanriches]

My favorite part is when Mark re-writes movies to make them better. He should do that for a living.

[@rob_4227]

Pretty sure Mark has been paid once or twice for his screen writing abilities.

[@CooeeJB]

He is a script doctor.

[@BlackangelKatakuri]

King Peppy Iron Fist wasn’t awful but it could have been so much better and him getting beaten so easily by the Hand which he was trained to be a weapon to destroy was pitiful . They also downloaded his chi powers too much he didn’t feel like he had finished his training he felt like he’s still a student .

[@natduran1079]

"No ship that small has a cloaking device" is a line from Empire Strikes Back referring to the millennium falcon before the bounty hunters are brought in. Although Darth Maul's ship apparently had one. Guess they are just really expensive.

[@JazGalaxy]

I feel like any absolute statements in Star Wars should be taken with a grain of salt because they are perpetually talking about a Galaxy. Nobody could know everything that happens in the galaxy.

[@jamesphillips586]

I'm old and my memory isn't what it used to be, but: isn't "I'll see you around, Kid" a line by Han Solo in one of the earlier movies?

[@ericcrowell7808]

Yes.

[@aliengranpa]

If I remember correctly (I'm old too) he said it to Luke in empire when he was about to leave and go back to his smuggling ways.. which of course never happened

[@kn1ne]

The Jedi aren't invincible. Had he stood in front of the First Order in the flesh when they let loose every weapon in their arsenal on him, he would have been blown to bits. As for the mech droid thing, R2-D2 had a map to where Luke was, so R2 could have programmed the route for Luke's X-Wing before Luke left, that would explain how Luke got there without a mech droid, why R2 had a map to his location and why Luke couldn't leave if he wanted to.

[@ericcrowell7808]

kn1ne Correct.

[@longmemory1620]

Top 10 starts @ 55:10

[@jarrydkells9607]

If luke wanted to go somewhere to die and be free of the Jedi, why did he seek out the first Jedi temple?

[@danrg26]

jarryd kells well he say he doesn't care but the face he made when yoda "burned the book" say otherwise

[@Based_Shivers]

He probably went there after the Jedi Temple he built was destroyed so he could find answers. Whether it was to ease his soul or to find a solution to the Kylo Ren problem, who knows, but he didn't find what he was looking for. He became disillusioned with the whole Jedi thing and decided to abandon it there. That's my theory anyways.

[@RadioactiveSince1990x]

It's just something JJ Abrams and Kasdan set up, only for Rian Johnson to basically ignore and pay little mind to. Just like the map that led to him.

[@TheNerdDojo]

Simple, he was lying.

[@buildbigwithben]

Clearly this trilogy was to usher in new hero as by creating the belief that the old heroes weren't that great of heroes...and that hurts the feelings of many fans

[@doughnut101]

Kevin, the reason Luke didn't go to Crait is because he had to become the Legend of Luke. Remember the Man Who Shot Liberty Valance line, "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Luke may have been a flawed human being like Yoda reminded him, but to relight the flame of rebellion he needed to standup to the 1st Order in a way only a legend could. He had to be this mysterious ethereal Jedi knight worthy of a kid's fantasy.

[@liquidsnake6783]

Dough Nut Exactly a legend is just fiction, someone tells it someone remembers it everyone passes it on

[@Curllube]

This is the best answer to this i’ve seen. Love it, and ageee.

[@iii1nch3siii]

How about R2D2 was the code breaker that they needed in the first place!!!

[@PLF...]

Calvin Nunn > R2 is factory built - there is no reason he should just happen to be better at code breaking than all other mech droids. 3PO would make more sense, or the two together even. But cool idea.

[@iii1nch3siii]

I’m just saying R2 spent all of that time in “A New Hope” descrambling the codes on the Death Star... Why couldn’t he have been more relevant in this movie???

[@craighicksartwork]

So essentially he's great with every version of Windows over the years. Means fuck all when he needs to hack a mac.

[@datalorev]

If Leia has died on the ship, then we never would have had the reunion with Luke.

[@sresner7]

she only had a reunion with a projection of a younger Luke anyways.

[@dumevision4573]

bigbenhoward yeah why is luke and leia relationship so important? Its not like there siblings

[@guidingrock7051]

Darth Maul got sliced in half, and managed to survive with help (part of canon too). Anakin's limbs were all cut off, he was saved. If Snoke was more powerful than Darth Maul, how does he not use the dark side to keep himself alive long enough for Evil ginger man to save him?

[@jacksonjack7838]

You know I liked the movie... but thats a pretty good question.

[@johnmorrison24116]

He looked much older and if the cut was through his spine no one can do anything and should die on spot

[@funknelson87]

To me, the reason Luke had to stay on the island was more about the “legend” of Luke Skywalker and what it meant to the galaxy. From an outsiders perspective, that day, Luke Skywalker “took on the entire First Order with a laser sword” and lived. He withstood everything they threw at him and kept coming and nobody actually saw him die. With the reoccurring theme being to be the spark that lights the fire, his “perceived” deeds did more to inspire the rest of the galaxy than he ever could’ve done actually being there. And if this is the case I see ep9 beginning some time down the road with what has become the new rebellion being an exponentially larger faction.

[@colinthedogfromspaced9365]

I 100% agree. It's late here ,3am and I'm very drunk but you have pointed out exactly what I think. He would have died or spun around like a computer game if he had BEEN right there. Instead he became legend.

[@funknelson87]

Haha you’re the man! Yeah in that scenario it was all about giving the universe hope and what better way to do that than having the man who’s already the stuff of legend to face the First Order down alone and come out unscathed? For me that was a super poetic way to accomplish that goal.

[@ericcrowell7808]

Correct.

[@funknelson87]

Mr. M you missed the point. Yes it was a lie but perception is what matters. The story spread throughout the galaxy doesn’t include “but he was projecting himself” because that’s not what the galaxy saw happen.

[@apexperfection740]

Kevin and Marc always do a great job. Kevin Smith is easily the best, most reliable podcaster that I have gone back to, over and over, through the years. Thanks for all the great work Kevin. Through my tough days, when I was quite difficult, your podcasts were always there to make me laugh. Please keep up the great work. I'm a fan, and will always be. Good luck!

[@bumwhistler6304]

ep 9 should open with leia's funeral. Bam job done.

[@nortonman1178]

Yeah. Have it mentioned in the opening crawl and then have the funeral

[@willdurfee4211]

This was my first thought. Get through any necessary exposition and make it feel natural.

[@RebelGaming4U]

How do you feel she was done in episode 9?

[@Madagon367]

'My bar is very fucking low.' No shit Kevin...lol...

[@christopheredwards5337]

Friis Tappert im the same way most times. i feel like critics and people over analzye shit so much they ruin it and set unrealistic expectations. i watch Kevin review shit because he talks like a fan and not a critic and it's like how a friend would tell me how much he liked a movie.

[@GRiMHOLDx]

1:37:46 If Marc gets his own Tv Show under the banner of Marvel, im gonna lose my shit!!! :D

[@christopheredwards5337]

GRiMHOLD indeed. hes a very smart writer and i would love to see what Mark does writing a show for Marvel.

[@YvesDarbouze]

Marc Bernadin is my fucking hero. I became a programmer & tech executive because I was too scared to do what he did. I hated TLJ but respect Marc’s breakdown major. Salute to you

[@xcaluhbration]

1:01:59 Did he just say "Glenn Close" and "ZOMBIE" in the same sentence... being in the SAME MOVIE?!

[@psicoalias]

SPOILERS! I think Luke choose to not be really there at the end because he knew there was no way for him to survive the attack of the entire new order fleet, BUT he ALSO knew that people will believe that "the legendary Jedi Luke Skywalker could survive this attack", so he needed to device this tremendously difficult deception to: a) not die in the attack, b) revive the legend of the jedi and c) give the rest of the resistance time to scape. TL;DR: If Luke were really there, he would have die in the first attack, with his astral proyection, he "survives" and, at the same time, creates a legend PS: I'm sorry for my english, I'm a spanish speaker

[@OfurNayr]

Your english is great and this was the idea I got from the tactic he chose. He essentially becomes the new hope for the Resistance building up again, "the spark, that will light the fire that will burn the First Order down." Random people across the galaxy will hear about the legend of Luke Skywalker, as shown in the ending scene with the stable children on Canto Bight.

[@redbird6102]

psicoalias don't worry about your English you hit the nail on the head that's what matters

[@redbird6102]

ryan r totally agree I really enjoyed how the movie used the legend of Luke Skywalker

[@emasabates]

Right on!

[@faustopancake234]

See you don't even have to speak English to understand this! Seriously though, my dude, your English was fine, better than some native speakers I know. All you said plus the fact that after Rey left there was no way for Luke to get to Crait in person in time to save anyone.

[@havok6280]

Technically Rose was right. Luke was able to destroy the first death star because han saved him. Luke survived Bespin because Leia saved him. Vader destroyed Palpatine because Luke saved him. They blew up starkiller base because Finn saved Rey. Each time they won was because they saved someone they loved.

[@Brimstarr]

Seriously no Blade Runner 2049 in your top 10. That blew me away with the tension and emotional weight in all the scenes.

[@jamesc0890]

Thank god for Mark! Kev seemed like he didn't wanna bash it in his solo review

[@ConnorJamming494]

Dan S you’re the only one who sounds like they’re crying lol. Someone has a different opinion than you, get over it.

[@TheJeffum]

STFU! you don't know what you're talking about this was better than TDK

[@djmarklaw1234]

I see the KZbin keyboard warriors are out tonight. And marc didn't rip on star wars. He said he loved it so I don't get the comment.

[@UnityAmongstChaos]

Marc did speak about all the deep story problems with the film, but regardless still enjoyed the movie for what it is. He did rip on it, you can rip a movie and still enjoy it.

[@ShilohBoca]

MoneyTrain James 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Kevin will not say anything bad

[@jamesdeen1948]

I liked the Last Jedi but I understand why some fans hated it. I'm not surprised Marc gives the Last Jedi a good review by highlighting what works and avoids the flaws. Its the opposite how he reviews DCEU by only pointing out the flaws and not highlighting anything good. DCEU movies have been disappointing to say the least but Kevin gave me a positive perspective in ways I've rewatched some of the scenes. Marc reviews just reinforce the public internet opinion; its like if someone posted the results to a internet poll and he plays to the crowd on the higher percentage than his own feelings.Couple of weeks ago "People think we bash DC because we are trying to get work from Marvel which is far from the truth"Same person "I had a meeting with Marvel.."

[@GrahamFeeley22]

To answer why Luke chose to come as a projection. 1. Wanted to die regardless, maybe felt like if he was truly there his sister and co would not retreat without him, which would make his actions in vein. 2. He wasn't confident that he could hold off all the Walker lasers as he could pretend his projection could, also maybe fearful that Kylo would get the better of him before the Resistance could escape. 3. He is so ashamed of his previous actions, he never wants to truly face people again, but also wanted to become 'A New Hope' for the rebels. 4. He is ashamed of the person he has become and wanted his sister and co to see him the way he was in his prime etc. 5. He has chosen a life of non violence and wants to die peaceful rather than in violence.

[@Dooger414]

graham feeley Almost doesn't sound like Luke's character...

[@napiersh1]

No your just trying to justify one of the worst decisions ever made in a SW movie. It was complete shit. The Luke Skywalker that nearly sacrificed himself to save his father would NEVER even entertain the thought of killing his nephew. Rian Johnson is shit, his movie is shit and the prequals will be looked on more favorably... BY A LOT.

[@GrahamFeeley22]

Seth Napier I'm not trying to justify anything, I didn't like the idea of it either, but it adds up, it's just not spoonfed to us, in ROTJ Luke says he still feels good in Vader. In this film he feels no good left in Kylo and Snokes corruption, he cannot be saved. Also in Empire, with his Jedi powers Luke could fortell that Vader was going to kill his friends. So in this film he could obviously also forsee that Kylo was going to kill all the students in the temple. So what were Luke's other options exactly?

[@GrahamFeeley22]

Domenic Serena it doesn't at all.. we all assumed he would become a Yoda/Obi Wan character as it was the only other option.. but people would have still been angry with this. Instead they added elements that completely broke the character down to nothing and he must overcome it. They done the same thing with The Dark Knight Rises. They broke Batman down to nothing..that he was no longer acting like Batman.

[@captainfantastic7643]

The entire theme of the movie was you don't go into battle when better options present themselves, even when going into battle would be the glorious option. At this point he's more of a jedi wizard than a jedi fighter. The Force ghost across time and space is a significant enough show of awesome old Luke power and it was set up through the whole movie. Kylo asked if Rei was projecting herself then discounted the self destructive amount of force power that would require. Luke said he's not gonna show up and fight with a lazer sword. He said it's not going to happen like you want. This way he saves the rebels, humiliates Kylo and gives the glorious inspirational moment.

[@MrShonuff1138]

I wish I was there to remind them that cloaking devices are a part of Star Wars. "They can't have disappeared; no ship that small has a cloaking device." - Captain Needa

[@eon001]

MrShonuff1138 even if there wasn't cloaking tech , who's to say they didn't develop it over the past 30 year's.

[@namecomingsoon9517]

I would like to know their opinions of the movie now that they’ve had time to think more about it

[@dennismason3740]

Hi. I am your neighbor south of Franklin who is buds with the Janitor, a real life superhero based in Hollywood. I just saw Supergirl Lives on Netflix and it bloody rocks. Yes I noticed that Harley and Melissa were wearing red boots off of the elevator. Nice touch.

[@warlockofwordschannel7901]

Oh, come on! Chewie DEMOLISHED that porg the second the camera cut away.

[@surrealcereal603]

No shit, huh? And no way I'm buying that he found a dead porg. He's got 200 years plus of carnivorous culinary cuisine under his belt. And according to Han, Chewie is "always thinking with his stomach."

[@wralfmachio]

Last Jedi shit on Luke Skywalker. Dude goes on the Death Star to redeem his Dad from the dark side but sneaks into his nephews room to kill him without talking to him first.

[@madsalt4542]

Did the pre show sound check go awry? Also, Holy front-loaded ads batman! Love this one. Juicy stuff.

[@brettholcomb3763]

Luke had resolved to remove himself from the physical aspects of conflict. His instinct to light his saber when he saw Ben's thoughts shook him permanently. At the beginning of the film, we see Luke having decided to universalize his failure to all force users. Yoda helps Luke realize that, while it may not be best for Luke to physically fight, others could learn from his story and be better. So, in his (knowingly) last act, Luke participated without giving up this personal, deeply held belief, over which he had agonized for years. He sacrificed his life to maintain this belief and to give aid to those who needed it. This is why he could not go to Crait.

[@EMLRN]

People easily forget how spiritual Star Wars can be, which is why Last Jedi is my favorite.

[@technoir1119]

Dagobah drags? You're insane, Mark.

[@LazarSoljaga]

I liked how all 3 main characters had new mentors who teached them interesting stuff. Po had Holdo, Fin had the hacker and Rey had Luke. I hope they use that for future movies and dont just toss it out.

[@billyretrogamer]

Thanks for a great year!

[@EzeHSK]

The lightspeed tracking technology was referenced in Rogue One. The whole Finn arc is partly social commentary (the exploitation of children and animals by the people who make profit out of war), part Finn growing (he begins the movie wanting to get to safety with Rey and ends almost sacrificing himself for the Resistance), developing Rose and her background (which also helps with the social commentary) and finally world building. Benicio del Toro's character is a perfect example of the thief with a heart of gold up until the last minute when he betrays them, which is a nice subversion of a classic trope. It's a SW movie with more than just blasters and light sabers. Honestly I'm only half surprised none of you guys got it. Also, Leia flying, for eff's sake, stop complaining about that. It doesn't look pretty, yeah, but every other force user makes superjumps, this is kind of the same but in zero gravity.

[@benoakman3069]

The reason Luke dies on the mountain staring at the horizon was to mirror the scene in A New Hope where he's doing the same. To show that Luke has come full circle. I'm not saying that's a GOOD reason (I would've rather he died in battle), I just don't get why so many (including 'good writer' Marc) can't see whats so obvious.

[@ericcrowell7808]

B-Man He projected because he knew he couldn’t defeat ALL of them on the planet surface. The legend of Luke Skywalker would’ve died along with him had he actually showed up. He didn’t feel he was actually capable of doing all of that in person. This way, the legend lives. Also, as someone has pointed out before here, if he dies by the hand of The First Order, or more specifically, Kylo Ren, they now know that they can do anything. The Resistance/Rebel spirit dies as well.

[@naderzein2435]

The legend of luke skywalker could do more than the man. And Luke knows this.

[@EverNumb]

We can see it because it's obvious... it's just not as effective as Rian "I masturbate to my own awesomeness I imagine in my head" Johnson seems to think it is.

[@wesdew4265]

dude, im in love with Marc i think... He just gets it. Great perspective.

[@Riclmnopp]

"When you wish upon a star, it makes no difference who you are, anyone can be a Jedi master now"

[@106200js]

Dan s are you a fan or just a fan of liberal bullshit

[@GetAlong2GetAlong]

Riclmnopp don’t say Jedi Master, because using the pejorative Master upsets some people.

[@simpleanswer8954]

Dan S " I don't understand the concepts of quality and consistent story telling so I will dismiss all criticism with my ego. I wish I could understand intellectual concepts, but I've been trained that thinking=nerds."

[@winterc.2476]

So many bitter dorks... Fuck your Snoak theories and Rey Lineage theories. Movie was amazing, just wasn't the movie you'd make. It's not your story, dork

[@simpleanswer8954]

Winter C. Arguing over a Star Wars movie, calling other people dorks. That makes you a dork too idiot. Just take a look at your 'liked' videos. "Civil War vs Batman V Superman: Which is Better?" Who watches shit like that, if not dorks? Whole bunch of Star Wars stuff in there too. Nice going.

[@TheLun4tic]

The best about TLJ is that Luke finally learned in the end how to know the good side from the bad YODA: "You will know. When you are calm, at peace. Passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." This is the reason why he wasn't on Crait. He was passive. He used the force for knowledge and defense as it is the Jedi way. Also "That is why you fail" --> Luke didn't believe that Ben could be saved which is why he failed as teacher. The Last Jedi is pretty poetic when you analyze it. Give Carrie an Oscar! She inspired generations. If she hasn't earned it, who has? There are people who got an Oscar for less.

[@andrewrojas1096]

Fuckin FINALLY!!!! I've been looking forward to this since the moment I left my first showing of The Last Jedi!

[@mponder486]

Need validation much? These two are grade A ass kissers. They were never going to talk bad about this movie.

[@MatthiasAI]

Omg I think i died every time Kevin reminded mark to deepthroat the mic.... Hahahaha~

[@matthewpezzaniti]

The reason Luke didn't go to Crate is that it relates to the theme in the movie that legends, though not realistic can be useful for inspiration (hope). Earlier in the movie Luke tells Rey that the resistance doesn't need Luke Skywalker, and then discusses his failures to live up to his legend status. Luke the person is not able to do the deeds that his legend could this is the very point of showing him as a flawed person in the movie. Yoda expresses the ideas that failure is a teacher and the burden of the master is that their apprentice will go beyond them. Like the force, Jedi cannot claim to own that legendary status alone, but Luke learns through the talks with Yoda that & connecting with Leia that those legends, though untrue, can be useful to inspire those around you. Luke goes to Crate as an illusion because the resistance needs Luke Skywalker the legendary character, not the actual flawed man. Thematically, this makes more sense.

[@jonathanw1019]

If he had shown up in person, he would have appeared as both the legend and the flawed man. He might have lost. He might have sacrificed himself like Ben Kenobi did. At least he tried. But he didn't. The notion that he isn't a legend is where I think you're wrong. He doesn't have to succeed every time to be a Legend. He doesn't succeed in ESB, but he does in ROTJ. His robotic hand is a constant reminder that he fails and is rash and makes mistakes. The fact that he lost his nephew to the dark side doesn't mean that there's no hope and that he's a total failure as a person and legend, it just makes him as fallible as he's ever been. It's what he does after he loses that matters. Does he get up and try again, to rectify the situation that he created and he allowed? Kylo is his responsibility. So is Snoke. It's his job to right what was wronged by them. If he fails, so be it. He sacrifices himself for the greater good. But sending a ghost? Imagine if Ben Kenobi sent his ghost to stall Vader, then he disappears while no one notices. Imagine how less of an impact his death would have had.

[@sirtoby4939]

Matthew Pezzaniti But that's bullshit. In the internal logic of the universe, Luke Skywalker was literally the legend he's made out to be. What you're suggesting is a facet of reality. And it's true in our universe. But please keep your "realism" out of my Star Wars. It doesn't belong there.

[@aundreyyakar1272]

I think he just didn't have a ship to get there. His x-wing was submerged for what we can assume was at least 5 years. It seems likely it would need repairs and he most likely wouldn't have tools or parts on Ahch-to

[@Jack_Stafford]

Matthew Pezzaniti but it would have made so much more impact if he sacrificed himself in person rather than doing it remotely? Was he just too lazy I mean he was literally already on the Falcon they could have gone just then. If he was going to sacrifice himself why not go out in a blaze of glory and making kylo actually kill you rather than just Vanishing on your secluded Island planet.

[@RadioactiveSince1990x]

Luke's entire contribution to the trilogy is buying the Resistance 5 minutes, and then dying on a rock. If you're OK with that, I have my doubts you even liked the character in the first place.

[@reignmanss]

The opening of Ep. XI should go like this: We see a huge explosion on a planet where a base just got destroyed which causes a huge evacuation. In the hurry people are searching for Leia and cannot find her. Po gets everyone loaded up and stays behind to look for her because he knows she was at X location which was near the explosion site. This is where we find her trapped and dying under some rubble where she gives us the "carry the torch" speech and dies. Po boards his ship and outruns the Imperial troops to meet at the rendezvous point.

[@hellomr_mith]

Just get clip on microphones.

[@brandoncharley3070]

Then we'd get to hear their shirts rustling for two hours.

[@TheSoulWithin7]

Love the show guys!! Glad to hear marcs thoughts on last jedi!! And glad u mentioned CASTLEROCK because thats been filming in my little town right down the street from me :)

[@katehartley2333]

I felt Luke chose that way to purposely make Ren lose face in front of his army. To paraphrase The Art of War : If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant...

[@MrSubstance]

'Hyperspace Tracking' was something the Empire was working on during Rogue One. Jyn Erso found a reference to it when she was going through the Imperial archives at the Citadel on Scariff.

[@jansenart0]

Luke wasn't there in person because he didn't want to become a martyr for the rebelsistance. He wants the conflict to end, he doesn't want it to draw out further in his name.

[@MrFinkFixes]

One of the coolest things I noticed was the floor mosaic of Ashla and Bogan on the floor with a Bendu in the first Jedi Temple.

[@TheRumblewagon]

Finally, Voices of Reason amongst the vitriol on the internet.

[@emcats84]

TheRumblewagon there is pleanty out there, you just need to look for them. Kevin is oblivious to how bad some of these 'geekdom' films are. Gullible fanboy is putting it lightly.

[@NKWTI]

Why do people keep saying he disconnected himself from the force? He certainly controlled the flow of who was able to sense him and vice versa, but he clearly is in control of when he can start using it again, he uses it a billion times in Last Jedi, he gets his staff to fight Rey, he destroys the building he find Kylo in with Rey, he keeps himself from falling, he contacts Leia, and he FUCKING TRAVELS ACROSS THE GALAXY. He's not cut off from the force, that's not concretely what they meant when it was said in the film.

[@NKWTI]

Yep, and only very shortly after being called out on it, denoting the start of him feeling guilty for being a hermit, finished off by Yoda giving him shit.

[@johnshelton6466]

The reason Luke couldn't show up physically is because it's impossible, he would've died, he used the "trick" as a diversion, as a man he could never accomplish such a feat, but by using all his force and doing probably the most bad ass thing a Jedi has done, he created a legend.

[@RadioactiveSince1990x]

John Shelton Except he died anyway, so it just made him look lazy.

[@johnshelton6466]

Radioactive Since 1990 He didn’t die, he became one with the force, he ascended, and will probably return in episode nine as a force ghost.

[@RadioactiveSince1990x]

John Shelton Which could have happened had he showed up in person, rendering your whole argument kind of pointless, no offense.

[@johnshelton6466]

Radioactive Since 1990 He wouldn’t have made it past the AT AT’s guns, by tricking the first order fleet, he inspires hope, I find it poetic and beautiful..

[@johnshelton6466]

Radioactive Since 1990 I’m just saying the diversion wouldn’t of worked if he was actually there, he would’ve been shot to hell instantly.

[@antonydrossos5719]

1:54 That opening skit between Poe & Hux was totally Monty Python

[@colinthedogfromspaced9365]

Luke would have been a puddle of blood if he'd actually stood in front of all that laser fire from the walkers. He created a legend and saved what was left of the resistance. It would of been awful if he WAS there and started spinning about like Yoda in Attack of the Clones.

[@241clearance5]

Little does Kev realize how the iconic duo C-3PO and R2-D2 are so important to the story of Star Wars, his own life story where the mouth of the 2 pieces himself back together ( Cloud City) and the voiceless Rowan Atkinson of the tag team remains forever close to our heart's

[@dane.2294]

Love Marc, he is infinitely more talented than I am but come on. Luke stays on the planet so we don't have to see Luke die sweaty and bloody in the salts of a battlefield. He passes elegantly and gains victory by not fighting just like the end of Return. It's the moment where Luke truly returns.

[@Dooger414]

Dan E. Yeah, my favorite part is the pathetic cheese they make his character do when he brushed off his cloak after the AT-AT assault, then Matrix's under Kylo' s blade, then that "Better luck next time" Romano on top of it. Best entry in the Resident Evil franchise.

[@dane.2294]

The more you fuck bois complain, the harder I laugh at you choking on your own bitterness. All you screaching and Last Jedi is still making money hand over fist and I have years to look forward to episode nine while all you can do is bitch.

[@wolfereignowns1154]

Dan E. Hey Your baby of a movie just flopped in China unlike anything seen before.

[@dane.2294]

You losers are pathetic. Star Wars has never done well in China. Like you even give a shit about china. You just want to spread your bitterness to other people. Sad and pathetic.

[@dane.2294]

China sure as fuck loved Geostorm though.

[@LeonidasBr]

Fun-fact, JJ wrote at the end of The Force Awakens, that BB-8 goes with Rey to Luke's Island (duh), and Rian Johnson asked him if he could switch the droids, and leave BB-8 behind and take R2-D2 with her to Luke, just for that shot Kevin described in The Last Jedi, that Rian wanted.

[@CB0915]

Mark Hammil for best supp actor

[@1ButtonDash]

i could actually see that, because regardless that mark hammil didn't care for the way Luke was portrayed in this film, he did it phenomenally

[@rudeboyzippo]

Hamill's performance was much better than Fisher's. I know she's not with us now, and we all have on our nostalgia glasses, but her role was very small, and she wasn't on her best game. Mark Hamill didn't even like what they did with Luke, but he gave it his all, and turned in a very different performance, from classic Luke. Probably his best ever.

[@KabbalahSherry]

Shane Shank - AGREE 100% 👌🏼💯

[@madirishmike5165]

TLJ = SJW horsepiss SKYWALKER IS A FUCKING QUITTER!

[@CB0915]

Prometheus Fuck u loser

[@wotaj]

When the Millennium Falcon disappeared from the Scopes of Piett's Star Destroyer, he said "a ship that small can't have a cloaking devices"

[@babykosh5415]

Just saw the film...it was awesome. I'll be seeing it again.

[@elvisthechef]

I got so much more out of it the second time seeing it.

[@the-dark-side.]

I love how clueless Kevin is when he has to explain negging to him. lol

[@CB0915]

No fucking chance Carrie Fisher is even mentioned at the oscars... sorry she’s great in the movie but no chance.

[@FutureDeadpool]

Troll 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅

[@SlasherInSuits]

Corey Brennan Luke was great but it’s probably a bunch of technical awards

[@SlasherInSuits]

PsychoTech ARMS maybe but it wasn’t like she was the joker who changed villains going forward.

[@ob2395]

She can't actually act. Coke addled and coasting through the entire film.

[@dondraper3898]

Troll Yeah, but "Carrie Poppins" cheated. She thought she was at a rave while being on Molly and opiates. That isn't fair...and she wasn't good

[@jaeeproductions]

You were discussing the 25,000 persons who signed the petition? Then you asked to crunch the numbers, as per whether this is a good or bad barometer of fan reaction--in terms of, "Is this a lot (of people)?" Well, in regard to how networks, and marketers, they believe that one protest call or letter, represents between a hundred, or thousand people, each. Thus 25,000 people, represents a lot of disappointed and angry people among the fan base, both directly and indirectly. I do know for a fact that, in advertising, only 1% to 2% of the people that you reach with your message...actually respond with a purchase, that is, if the product or person being advertised is largely unknown and unbranded. That said, if a product is known, and branded, there is a 5% response rate. What does this mean? In terms of negative fan responses to the studio, if the negative responses, now rival the positive responses, then that is an issue. According to Rotten Tomatoes, the negative responses by fans, are nearly equal to the fans who are praising the film. This early in, I would say that is a very bad sign. Why??? Most loyal fans, tend to come out strong in support of a film, no matter what, and no matter how very terrible it is; you will recall the prequels. Then within 6 months, past the opening, those same fans, began to admit that the original prequel was lousy, etc. This was a pattern that continued, since. Given that, such will likely be the case with this film, TLJ, and let's remember, the original prequel was initially given loving reviews by the fans, before they finally sobered up, and admitted the truth. Since, out of the box...with "The Last Jedi", almost half of the fans hate it, to begin with, you can imagine what the true measurable response rate will be in 6 months, to a year from now, when the fans calm down from the hype. You will likely see signs which reveal that this film is largely hated, as opposed to a so-called, split of opinion among fans. Last Monday, the film was off 50% from TFA, and over this weekend, it has been reported that the B.O. estimates for the 2nd weekend, is 25% off TFA. Look, ultimately, these people are trying to sell youth and toys. Well, I read just last year, that the toy business for Star Wars is significantly off--the toys are just not selling like they used to. Why??? The movies are simply not up to par, and pandering to the filmmakers, when they make and write terrible films, isn't going to change that dynamic, only better films and better scripts/stories will. The king has no clothes here, but you are afraid to say it, however...I'm not. That is the danger with fan shows, for once they become popular, the owners stop being honest, and feel that they must be diplomatic, as to avoid pissing off the studios and others. Back to quality controls, again, by making good/great movies, that is how you sell toys. The film, as with TFA, is populated with 2-dimensional cardboard cut-out place holder characters, waiting for someone to fill them in. They are all tropes, with no definition, the sign of an inexperienced, and poor writer. Rian Johnson has delivered a series of Mary Stu and Gary Stu characters, with no real character arcs or reliable personalities, just set ups for arcs, that are never realized, or are poorly handled when they are realized, and no one along the production line stopped him. Where was Kathleen Kennedy to step in and enforce some much needed quality controls??? What is she getting paid for??? ILM did its job, Skywalker Sound its job, and John Williams did his job, but where was she??? Essentially, in terms of visuals and audio, Lucasfilm runs itself, they are going to deliver quality effects, sound and a competent to great film score, but Kennedy has the job that is meant to be the glue, for all she had to do, her single most important task, was to provide a good to great script, one that honors and builds on the original characters, yet she failed to show up??? She has had years, to work on a 120 page script, and this is what we got, this low level trash with holes like Swiss Cheese??? You can tell within a mere 1 to 2 page outline, if the final story and script will be worthy, and most great writers can author an outline within a few minutes, to a few days, so how is it, that she read the outline for TLJ, and said to herself, "Now this will make a great film! We need to make this movie, with this filmmaker, now!" She has proven that she does not understand good writing, or she would have stopped Johnson and said, "You are a hired gun director, and we appreciate you, but this is our movie, and thus, your story and character arcs, need some major fixes, and here they are." As I have stated elsewhere, Kennedy and others at Lucasfilm/Disney, have been widely distracted by "Star Wars Anthology" films, instead of using the whole of their resources and man/woman power/minds, in a concentrated effort to get the final trilogy right, resulting in watered down and uneven trilogy films, and watered down and uneven anthology films. It is a shame, and suggests rushed greed and inborn incompetence, over thoughtful reasoning. The fan theories that Rey is a Palpatine, and is Vader's reincarnation are much better. Imagine Luke saying to Rey, upon their first meeting, "You are not here, for me to teach you, you are here to teach me! You are the reincarnation of a very powerful and wise Jedi." That said, Luke won't reveal the name, as it might serve to confuse her. Then later, in a time of need, during the climax, he reveals that she is Anakin/Darth Vader, and his father. She needs to recall herself, from another life, in order to fight Snoke and Ren. When she does tap into those memories of Anakin's mother, Qui Gon Jinn, Padme, Ben, Yoda, Palpatine, Vader and even Luke rescuing him from the dark side, it is only then, that Rey is able to unleash her full force powers. Now that would have been a great story/film, and would have explained Rey's advanced abilities. Instead we received the meaningless mush, which is "The Last Jedi", and worse, you cheer it???

[@ericcrowell7808]

jaeeproductions Paragraphs are your friend. Also, nice fan fiction.

[@jaeeproductions]

We have never seen Luke, in a real romantic situation, as he was denied that with Leia. Character arcs, featuring love, have great depth. The same with religion, and other similar weighty material that has to do with Existentialism versus, Fate, Destiny, Religion and God . They serve to give a character flaws, but also massive tests, and something to lose, gain, or protect. They also give the audience something to relate to. Everyone has fallen in love, had that love threatened, fought for that love, threw it away, earned it, regretted it, was betrayed by it, or was thankful for it. This is an important arc that we never saw Luke go though, and an important part of life, for it completes a person--it's about 50 percent of who we are, maybe more. People, especially adults, are sexual beings, and thus, we get lonely, as human beings/souls. Holdo, should have been Mara Jade, or carried out her story arc. I think the greatest flaw of the Jedi, is that they wouldn't allow themselves to love, just to reason. Anakin, would have been better, if he was allowed to love his wife openly, but he hid it because of Jedi laws, and that ultimately pushed him toward Palpatine. Think about this. What if Holdo's storyline, her character arc, was given to Leia? It would have made for a stronger movie and a better exit for Leia. I love Laura Dern, but why not free her up, to confront Luke on the planet, and convince him to train their daughter Rey. If Hondo was a Palpatine, and her and Luke's daughter, a mix of Vader's bloodline and that of the Emperior, that would have been boss. I could imagine Luke refusing to train Rey, and then Hondo, who is trained in the ways of the Jedi and the Sith, does it. Eventually, Luke sees his error, only after both women leave the planet to aid the New Republic, and Luke follows in his X-Wing, in order to save all that he loves. A Jedi wouldn't necessarily do that, but a man who is in love, and who loves his wife and child, would do anything to save them. Let's remember, if they Jedis had saved Anakin's mother from slavery, she wouldn't have died, and Anakin wouldn't have becomes Vader. His mother's unnecessary death, caused him to fear death, and fear losing his his wife, thus he tried to protect Padme from death, by betraying the Jedi, so that he could stop people from dying, beginning with Padme, and their child (children). As per Luke, during the climax, he created an elaborate illusion, and died from using so much energy, in creating that illusion. How very stupid! I can prove it. Why did Luke not simply create an illusion that caused the First Order forces to see each other as the enemy, that being New Republic forces, causing them to attack each other, in place of attacking the New Republic armies and/or fleet? Rian Johnson has created a series of plot holes like that. Further, Holdo failed to inform Poe of her plan. That led to Poe sending Finn and Rose on a mission, that ultimately caused the New Republic forces to be sold out and destroyed. If Holdo had simply shared her plan, which she had no reasons to hide, none of this would have happened. That is called bad writing. If Holdo had shared her plan, then the whole trip to the Casino Planet would never have happened, and is ultimately made unnecessary. It was a forced side plot. Then there was Rose preventing Finn from sacrificing himself to save the New Republic forces. If Luke hadn't stepped in, Rose's actions would have aided the First Order and gotten all of the New Republic forces killed. The Star Wars would have been over in that event, due to Rose aiding the enemy. Rose was a wholly unnecessary character, who was forced into the plot, and the same with Holdo, as Leia should have carried out the latter's character arc.

[@iamtheAwesomo3000]

Blade Runner 2049 should be in the top ten this year.

[@GRiMHOLDx]

Watched it just a few hours ago. I don't think it deserves to be in top 10

[@03NINhalo]

DarkJedi3000 yes!!! Blade runner 2049 top 3 best film & top 10 of best sequel ever made!!!

[@ckm567zmm4]

BR2049 = Disappointment!" Same mistakes as usual. Good SFX, terrible story! Hampton rehashed part of his original screen play, thrown out by RS in BR original.

[@jaymacky4615]

Bladerunner was ok, but I almost fell asleep and the soundtracks were so FUCKING LOUD! I had to plug my ears. Blade Runner was 3.5/5

[@johnsanchez9802]

The porgs on the ship with Chewie where livestock for later use;)

[@faustopancake234]

I thought it dropped some pretty hard hints that Holdo did in fact suspect a spy in their ranks, it literally shows Finns face immediately after they figured out that they were being tracked. Poe also didn't tell Holdo HOW they were being tracked, so she kept here assumption there was a leak which gives her a legit reason to be secretive.

[@ericcrowell7808]

Ted Dunnam I thought there was a leak, as well. I was sure it was going to be Rose. I listened to a KZbin video about a year ago that gave detailed info on a supposed script leak. I am pretty sure it wasn’t legit, but there were a ton of clues leading to there being a double agent, and she was the best candidate. It seemed as though this plot point was changed at the last minute, but the clues were left in. Could be because I was expecting it to happen, but didn’t. I’ll have to see it again.

[@PLF...]

Ted Dunnam > plus, he was technically wearing an emitter the whole time - yet no notion is made of it.

[@danielsnyman8501]

Yes Poe, the commander who blew up the starkiller base in TFA, the guy who risked his life to blow up one of the first order's dreadnaught class destroyer in the beginning of the movie to save the resistance is a spy, brilliant detective work by Haldo, like if she suspected a him to be a spy why would she not have told any of the other people who joined him in his mutany that she actually had a viable plan, this is just trying to create conflict because of a lack of communication which is lazy writing

[@faustopancake234]

Man Of The Dan No, she thought Finn might be a spy or might have a tracker implanted that he didn't know about. Finn and Poe are buds ya know. Also she wasn't singling Poe out, she was playing it close to the vest with everyone just in case. Smart commanders do that sometimes, even if they don't suspect a spy. It's called "show don't tell" writing, it's the exact opposite of lazy, and it's more satisfying than being spoon-fed the plot to most people. Guess you are just the type that likes things to be spoon-fed, that's ok, just don't get mad at other people for liking something different.

[@danielsnyman8501]

Ted Dunnam Sure if she had mentioned the fact that Finn was originally a trooper for the FO and therefore could be a spy of some sort for them then your point that she suspected him may have been valid ,but she didn't and not only that i don't think she even mention Finn at all during the entire movie. Also of all people to have mentioned the plan to it would have been Poe the former commander of their fleet who is hotheaded and prone to solving problems himself ,as shown in the beginning of the movie in which he ignored Leia to destroy the dreadnaught, and besides not telling anyone the plan makes no sense due to the fact that everyone is going to find out regardless when they get on the small ships as she was commanding them to do. This is not "something different " but rather a stupid leap in logic that is solely used to have Finn and Rose engaged in a pointless subplot and have everyone down on the Hoth like planet for the third act. BAD WRITING!

[@anirudhbharadwaj1342]

I just caught this as Marc was explaining it at 42:50, if the Rebel ship had used up all its fuel when those cloaked (or not so cloaked) transports were making their way to the old rebel base, how did the ship just turn around and jump into lightspeed if it didn't have any fuel left?

[@KristopherLeland]

Without spoilers: I can forgive two characters having a story that literally affected nothing at all. I can forgive Luke doing...what Luke did. I don't even mind the aggressively cute merchandise ads in the form of the Porgs or whatever they were called. What I can't forgive is how uninteresting the movie was. Fan theories sounded nuts and cool and interesting, and I'm not a Star Wars fanboy. What we got instead was a movie that felt totally interchangeable with the Star Trek reboot movies or, God forbid, a DC superhero movie. It was just a pretty generic action movie with some super powers and cool laser swords. I had a ton of faith in the movie seeing how Disney is treating the Marvel heroes these days. Instead of them all feeling the same, we're getting some really weird and awesome movies. Dr. Strange was inception-esque, and Ragnarok was this wacky, buddy cop comedy in space. Taking those risks, why couldn't Snoke have been Plagius or why couldn't Rey reject the Jedi teachings and use both sides of the force. Really, anything that would've made people who know the lore even a little excited to see the movie

[@jimkirkland5838]

GUYS; this is the only KZbin show I'm watching every time. So much fun!

[@donluchitti]

Kevin, But weaponizing light speed definitely has problems . Why dont thry just take small ships, automated, and send them into enemy ships.

[@anthonygonzalez514]

Also. Ships jumped to hyperspace at the end of Rogue One and ran right into Vader's ship. They did not rip through it , they just blew up .

[@snipegrzywa]

Anthony Gonzalez those ships weren't up to speed yet, or at least that's what you can argue

[@winterc.2476]

It was a desperation move. That was their last "big ship".

[@ericcrowell7808]

Anthony Gonzalez No, they were getting ready to, and then Vader showed up. They were still stationary while his ship was coming out of lightspeed.

[@monster0033]

According to director Rian Johnson, the Porgs were the result of puffins being native to Skellig Island where the Achto scenes were filmed. They were unable to move them as they are a protected species and it would've been too time consuming and expensive to edit them out of the shots, so Rian decided to create a new indigenous species and simply CGI over the puffins.

[@Gregster8626]

Marvel needs to approach Fantastic 4 as period pieces. Heroes existed between Steve Rogers being in the ice and Tony Stark becoming Iron Man (Hank Pym existed was The Ant-Man). Do two films (one in 1961 and one in 1971) and to bring them into the current period through a form of time travel (they are retired or dead in the current period) to be in Avengers 5 in which Galactus is introduced. You can also introduce Silver Surfer and Namor in these films (the cheese factor of Namor in the 60's works).

[@plopzoppers3921]

I stopped watching marvel films after avengers 1, but your idea would get me to buy a ticket again

[@thatgamermeister]

Luke projected himself in the final fight to become the literal symbol that hope is untouchable, but the effect of hope can be felt across a galaxy. And the death of hope can never come by the hand of tyranny. Luke utterly demoralized the First Order and did so completely without violence as a true Jedi should. Luke's actions in this movie truly proved that he's the Legend everyone thought he was and needed him to be.

[@thecatherinegriffin2610]

THEY GOT LUKE EXACTLY RIGHT first let me say I am a huge SW OT fan and will gladly force fx lighsaber fight anyone. I loved this movie and it was a masterpiece. Absolutely brilliant. I was on the edge of my seat the whole movie. Made me laugh cry and get chills. The best part by far is that it was unpredictable. I am tired of seeing the same old tropes over and over and knowing how it ends before it begins. Its been a long time since Ive seen a movie take me by surprise as much as this one did. Give Mark Hamil and Adam Driver oscars. Nothing is what it seems sums up everything about the theme of this movie. Definately the smartest Star Wars script in a long time and maybe thats why some people hate it. I expected nothing less from the guy who gave us looper etc. Even when Rey went for the lightsaber and snoke hit her in the head, Luke is a projection, the force is not a power you have, fan theories, finn about to sacrifice himself but gets saved by Rose...hell even the whole find the code breaker plotline was all about how nothing is as it seems. Disney can have all my money and Kathleen Kennedy is my hero now (sorry bruce lee). There are 3 groups of people who hate this movie and they were going to hate it no matter what : red pill guys...because this movie has women in it, crybaby nitpicky fans who want the impossible sequel to ROTJ (Red3 in space) and finally snoke fans. J/k just the people who wasted the last two years on stupid fan theories. nothing will make you happy because deep down what you want... what we all wanted was a new adventure with luke han leia .... we wanted a sequel to return of the jedi. And anything that doesnt meet that criteria must automatically be terrible. But its too late. They are too old. THIS PERFECT IDEALIZED STAR WARS SEQUEL WITH THE ORIGINAL CAST IS NOT POSSIBLE AND NOT GOING TO HAPPEN get over it. Put all your cry baby selfish rose colored nostalgia goggles away it is embarassing. My favorite thing of the whole movie was Luke and especially the showdown. He grew up a farmer in the middle of nowhere and his only mentors were jedi masters who became hermits while the empire kept doing its thing. Makes sense he would do the same. It was epic! The showdown was perfect! He showed kylo how powerful he really was, humiliated him, and did it as true representation of what a jedi should be. It was better than I imagined and it even reminded me of the sarlaac pit scene because of the tension and Lukes confidence. Plus his whole han solo line! One last F U to Kylo Ren. Beautiful. He comes full circle, finds inner peace and becomes one with the force. I still get goosebumps thinking about it. Why was he an illusion? Its very Jedi! Think of Alec Guiness obiwan using mind tricks monster roars and misdirection to get passed stormtroopers and sand raiders. He only resorted to violence as a last resort and even then...only defended himself and 'disarmed' (get it?) His opponents. And those who think he would never think about killing ben in his sleep have clearly forgotten all about return of the jedi! Luke didnt want to save Vader he wanted to kill him for Obi wans death. He only wanted to save him after he found out it was daddy! Then Luke became conflicted...dressing like a sith and force choking gammorrean guards! HE EVEN GIVES IN TO THE DARK SIDE! HOW DID YOU FORGET THAT! ITS THE FUCKING CLIMAX OF THE MOVIE AND LIGHTSABER FIGHT! All fight they keep prodding Luke to get angry and give in. He resists until Vader threatens Leia and thats what makes him snap, give in the dark side (anger hate aggression) has an evil look on his face...until he notices the hand! THAT WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING BEAUTY OF THE MOVIE! THEY EACH SAVED EACH OTHER FROM THE DARK SIDE!!!!!!! WHICH COMES BACK TO THE WHOLE MESSAGE BEHIND STAR WARS "ITS NOT ABOUT FIGHTING WHAT YOU HATE ITS ABOUT SAVING WHAT YOU LOVE!!!!!!! " DUH!

[@Anothersolo]

Kyle Griffin ugh i don't understand the hate this movie is getting. Everything you said is exactly what I've been saying. This movie was brilliant and is my new favorite SW movie.

[@thecatherinegriffin2610]

Left clues? When I go somewhere I usually let people know where I am going and leave a number. What I dont do is remove my destination from google, split the information in 2 pieces and then hide the pieces. As for Luke being a coward ...I address in my comment below how Luke has given into dark temptations in ROTJ. Hey do you think Obiwan and Yoda are cowards? Why didnt obiwan go all lightsaber crazy on the death star? He is strong enough. Instead he used misdirection and mind tricks and avoided violence. How crazy is that? Why would any religious monk hermit who believes in peace leave violence as a last resort? What? Its like these wise jedi masters think the force is supposed to be for knowledge, defense and not attack. Ridiculous I tell ya.

[@CarlosCMTF]

My theory about the basic outline of Episode IX is that there's going to be a timeskip, a major one, like 30 or 40 years later. The ending of the Last Jedi symbolically hints at that: The little boy who's force sensitive and has a resistance ring symbolizes a bright future that we can expect. Also the fact that Rey stole the Jedi sacred texts implies that she is interested in restarting the Jedi Order by herself (or with the help of Leia). And that will take years and years to consolidate as well as the resistance will take years to rebuilt itself from the ashes (they ended up with nothing at the end of the movie). I just can't see where they could go from where we left off - there is virtually nothing for them to do now, other than hide for some time. Hence the necessity of the timeskip. Plus, it's the perfect elegant way to kill off Leia - she died of old age and you could give her a huge statue inside the new Jedi temple that she helped to build.

[@jaina8648]

NO SHIP THAT SMALL HAS A CLOAKING DEVICE.

[@Eoinster]

Jonathan Petrovich Darth Maul's Schmitar my dude.

[@danieldunlap4077]

The Empire Strikes Back reference for when the Millennium Falcon disappears off the Star Destroyers scanners during the frontal attack.

[@vidarDJ16starkill]

I took it to mean they were meaning not an actual cloaking device but a cloak from sensors. Although it should be said that this is 30 years after Empire, technology improves. In the EU by this time they had cloaking devices on star fighters, so for me it was fine. (Never forget the TIE Phantom!)

[@PLF...]

Jonathan Petrovich > and no small fighters are a threat to the death star... That line is not some universal law, its grand might tarkin displaying the arrogance that led to his demise.

[@danielsnyman8501]

PLF tell that to Luke who flew a small fighter and blew up the first death star

[@thepricelesswwechamp]

When is this available on the podcast app?

[@GamerWho]

Luke projected into the battle is so much better than him physically being there. Yes you could have had him taking on 500 laser blasts at once, but could you see Alec Guiness as Obi Wan doing that? No way, he's creating a distraction for his friends as well as teaching one final lesson to his failed pupil that the force is more than just fighting with laser swords, now he's one with the force Kylo cannot fight him. He's literally untouchable in that scene like Obi Wan surrendering to the force in ANH.

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

Rationalizing it is fine, but it wasn't satisfying to watch and never will be.

[@Markus1069]

Did anyone else notice the books in the draw on the falcon at the end. Was that the Jedi texts that were "burned"

[@bbcoachSupermanBR]

The worst part of Last Jedi is it makes the wait for 9 not fun. 80-85% of the fun of FA was speculation and rumor and hope and theory it was like being a kid again....then they threw that all away. Now I'm just waiting for 9...I don't want to do any of that other stuff cuz why? I don't want to get excited cuz it doesn't matter.

[@deadmeme1251]

Brian Rokosz Perhaps, that's the point. Fans have always been speculating such nonsense, that when the reveals actually transpire they're often disappointing or beyond what you anticipated. Which, I must add, is why this film was so divisive. That's why this film basically tells the audience, it doesn't matter. Origins and the past doesn't serve any relevance to to the overall plot, and, ultimately, all of these mystery boxes are frivolous. Furthermore, a lot of people HATED the fact that TFA had too many questions and not enough answers. This film is the complete opposite. I agree I don't have anything to speculate about, but, instead, we got a conclusion that's solid and satisfying. There are no questions, the film ended on an optimistic note. In the meantime, we've got two years of other films to watch and enjoy. Plus, there's more to your life than speculating if the Knights of Ren will appear in the final installment.

[@snipegrzywa]

Dead Meme this doesn't have questions? It's literally a blank slate from here.... They reset the entire universe in the middle of trilogy!!! And the reason people are pissed is that they set up all these questions in episode 7...for ep 8 to not even say you are wrong, it said your speculations are pointless. That's not fun. Further more, the issues with EP 7 and having questions wasn't about cliff hangers, it was questions about the universe starting at the opening crawl and through out movie. Leaving with questions about next installment is fine, and expected in series. Having questions throughout the movie about what is going on is bad.

[@ericcrowell7808]

snipegrzywa So, you guessed wrong, and now it’s not fun anymore? You sound extremely butt hurt over it. Also, it’s not saying your speculation was pointless, it just saying that 99% of people were wrong with their theories. It’s too bad that this makes it not fun for you. I enjoyed it so much because I had theories that I was sure were right, but I wasn’t. That honestly made it better. To each their own, I guess.

[@ericcrowell7808]

Lamashtar Another invalid argument. So Luke was the completely good, completely having his shit together Jedi that we thought he was 34 years ago? His story arc makes total sense. The only thing that didn’t make sense was Leia turning into Mary Poppins. I’ve seen it a second time and it didn’t bother me nearly as bad as it did the first time. All the other choices also make total sense. You may not have liked them, but it does make sense.

[@hellsson1996]

Kevin, do you think you could swing the cost of some clip-on microphones? They're less than $2000 and it would certainly cure the mic distance issue.

[@skygoing82]

Last Jedi reminds me of a kindergartener telling me what happened in a sci-fi movie. There are some incredible "moments" a shit ton of stuff that doesn't make sense, and overall it's enjoyable to be part of, even though it's way too long and gets a lot of stuff wrong.

[@SageHeru]

Sean Going and that's the sad part, it's 2017 and the movie was made with 200 million. Have to do better in writing a movie like this.

[@B33pB00p2]

What didn't make sense? I've seen it a few times and maybe I could help

[@gdelan1]

My idea for how Ep 9 begins: It's five years later, and the new rebellion is fighting the Imperial Order in a big space battle. Camera focuses on Poe in his X-Wing leading his squadron against opposing forces. We see the main Rebel ship take heavy damage and explode despite his efforts. General Leia is gone, and the rebel forces retreat in shock. We next see the new rebel base on Endor, and a later funeral of Leia on Naboo.

[@ScooterJackson]

christ on a stick. you guys can toss a penny in the air in LA and hit a qualified sound guy 9 times out of 10..... HIRE ONE.

[@Charlie_lives]

+Skratchin Jackson Christ on a stick wtf is that a lollipop

[@joshuaDstarks]

It's that 10th time.....every night.

[@brandoncharley3070]

I was there, there is one guy running the camera, lights and sound. When you see a dude walking behind Kevin and Marc, that's the camera operator adjusting other stuff.

[@ScooterJackson]

Homie needs to ask a friend for help... You only gotta ring a room out once and remember the settings (or just don't touch the eq after). This aint rocket surgery

[@jamesporter1496]

We already had one of our OT heroes die in a very violent way. Luke went out with "Peace and purpose". Plus....his X-Wing was entrenched in the ocean, he probably couldn't get off the island if he wanted to. There really was no need for him to be on Crait. Him using an astral projection made for such an exciting and unpredictable scene. He died peacefully facing two suns, the same way he began his journey.

[@lie62986]

I like these guys's opinions I think they're a little too tight into Hollywood to make an honest opinion

[@Dooger414]

Lamashtar You realize That's the definition of bias, right? How someone carries themselves should not reflect how you judge their work objectively as a critic.

[@taliaprice1909]

Agreed. Kevin Smith wants to be where Affleck is right now.

[@joshuab3715]

Live shows are cool, but I kinda miss Kevin saying "give me a single"

[@TheSasquatch33]

@KEVINSMITH @FATMANONBATMAN @ANYONERUNNING THIS CHANNEL GET MARC A HEADSET, PROBLEM SOLVED.

[@TheSasquatch33]

Also, that Alexander Dumas movie sounds amazing except I would trade Idris Elba for Djimon Hounsou, get that man some more work.

[@ThePipeNook]

I'm sure someone has said this, but Strikeforce Morituri wasn't part of Marvel's New Universe. It ran at the same time (1986-1989), but was published under the Marvel brand, although it was it's own universe, not connected to the Marvel U. I really liked some of the ideas of the New Universe (aside from the lame black-framed covers and weirdness like Kickers, inc.), but never got into Strikeforce Morituri. Maybe I'll look those up now...

[@lonewolf3314]

Mark Hamil is older than both of you, but even he said more than once. Nope he is not my character. He should have been more than a hermit.

[@thecatherinegriffin2610]

lone wolf lets see here... Grew up a farmer, drinks blue milk, middle of nowhere...retires a farmer middle of nowhere drinking blue milk. Lukes first master was a jedi who uncle owen referred to as a crazy old hermit. Sat out while the empire kept growing. Lukes second master...a crazy old hermit who lives in a swamp...does not leave to help fight empire. What are you not understanding?

[@patrickhoward4063]

bigbenhoward Luke didn't make the map lor san tekka did.

[@feylann9246]

Forget ALL the Artoo moments except; Artoo fixing Padme's ship in PM letting them escape to Tatooine

[@VicAtNyte]

I agree, Leia's death was clearly inferred in the trailer, then survives miraculously instead. It really felt like they put two films together, especially after Snokes ship ripped apart, I thought it was over. But then there's another 45 min to hour, literally another film was made that should have been #3

[@slyesttrash7857]

No he's mentioning that the trailers used a lot of misdirection.

[@winterc.2476]

Vic atNyte guess you had never seen a trailer before.

[@ssc8731]

That space float was bs

[@EzeHSK]

Because nowadays you often get lots of stuff spoiled in trailers. For example the last Terminator movie.

[@seeteasea5497]

I know that these days movies are trailers that have been padded out. The film was so good, I don’t understand why people want the movie spoiled by trailers? Remember when Hitchcock used misdirection when Psycho came out and everyone loved it because they got to enjoy an epic movie fresh? Now people want 3 different 4 minute trailers with all the important information and best action in it. I should clarify, Psycho was a masterpiece of film and should be preserved like the Mona Lisa in my opinion and The Last Jedi was a good enjoyable film, I’m not comparing the movies at all

[@mylescoyne1]

MARK NEEDS HIS OWN PODCAST. OR MORE TIME TO TALK. LOVE YOU KEVIN.

[@Fawl3r]

J.J Abram's can fix this he needs to make last Jedi look like a dream in fin's mind while he is in a coma that's the only way!

[@lonewanderer01]

Even better would be if it is a Force dream by Rey from the start of TFA and none of this non-sense happened and a real Star Wars story can begin.

[@ThemFuzzyMonsters]

Both these suggestions are soap opera $2 stunts ... and yet, I would accept no less from Disney as an apology ... that or re-cutting that stupid movie for a re-release next year. I now understand why they struggled to keep a director for Episode IX: it's doomed to suck horrendously

[@Fawl3r]

Or just give the brinks truck to G.Lucas to fix what has been screwed over so hard

[@ThemFuzzyMonsters]

Johnny Crypto It will take a miracle. The new heroes are ultra-weak and un-relatable: Mary Sue, spoiled Ben Solo & buffon Hux. The irrelevant runaway janitor and his new irrelevant mechanic girlfriend. Poe the idiotic leader & the zombie Princess (who can no longer be put onscreen) ... meanwhile the guy who was behind everything (the 1st Order, the quest for Skywalker, the genocide of billions of people on the Republic planets, etc.) is dead without meaningful reason ... and the sole "real" hero left in the story (after a 30 year wait and a two years cliffhanger) was a whiny grumpy old guy living in squalor, drunk on sea cow milk ... and he died teleworking through the Force ... there is nothing left. NOTHING. JJ Abraams would be better-off giving-up all this trash and start fresh, but contracts were drawn already, so this next installment is going to happen. I would be shocked if that next movie gets a huge opening week-end if they don't find a way to undo some this mess. They allowed Rian Johnson to painted them into a corner. Worse, they gave him his own three Star Wars movie-saga deal (mind blowing!).

[@williamw2529]

Or they were dead the whole time....

[@RonieDoll]

It is always a joy to listen to you two

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

Blade Runner is easily my best of the year.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

Do. It is not a let down at all.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

Yeah, don't walk into it hoping for ear to ear smiles lol :)

[@chemtrail2269]

"i heard master more in here than roots" hahahahahahah my god

[@markseb2003]

The light-speed kamikaze mission makes no sense. First of all, it's not "light-speed' it's hyperspace. Star Wars has never been clear about its physics. But if spaceships can collide with objects within normal space while they're in hyperspace, then how are spaceships able to travel across so many light-years of the galaxy?

[@thecatherinegriffin2610]

I'm not identifying myself yeeeeaaaahhhh and how come Santa can visit every house in one night? It doesnt make sense

[@garethbundy]

It's a movie

[@MichaelGillcircumvision]

That’s why you need to get “precise coordinates from the navi computer” and it “ain’t like dusting crops, boy.”

[@judemiller]

I get that Leia lightspeed jumping through that ship would've been a graceful sendoff, but wouldn't that have required reshoots? After she already passed? I don't see how they could've done it even if they wanted to. They didn't know ahead of time that she wouldn't be in Episode 9.

[@calendarcalendar3838]

If the Last Jedi gets an Oscar Nomination. . . then you know it's rigged.

[@crozraven]

Lucky Day 92% on RT is from "featured critics" score you dum dum, while audience score is more like 52% (as of now).

[@xmikex902x]

100% will...bc Feminism

[@barry2349]

Lucky Day yes all the shitty prequels got a A ceniema score aswell

[@B33pB00p2]

%92 is from all critics not a select few, that's not how RT works, check it out on their website they break it down. As for the audience score, it's extremely unreliable as people can flood it with votes without ever having seen the movie, so as I said the Cinemascore is the only truly accurate way of gauging people's reactions who just saw the film. If the prequels also got an A in their day then that's fine, just means folks enjoyed their time at the movies.

[@barry2349]

Lucky Day no what i meant was that most shitty movies get an A,cenima score is not reliable as it forces the person to give a review on a film that they just watched without analyzing the movie hence shit movies get good scores

[@wotaj]

Oh that's why Lando's ship, The Lady Luck, showed up in the first surface scene on Cantonica!