If I get trialed for advocating jury nullification, the jury in my trial would learn about it and perhaps if I'm sympathetic enough they'd also nullify the law and let me free.
@trombone1132 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't count on it, Snoopy.
@astral67492 жыл бұрын
@@trombone113 1
@johnhandcock77442 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah! That's brilliant! What an excellent idea!The best catch-22 EVER!!! It's so parabolical, it's almost DIABOLICAL!!!!!
@squid_cake2 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, can someone explain why wouldn't this work?
@blueturtle36232 жыл бұрын
@@squid_cake It wouldn't go to a trial, definitely not by jury.
@owlwaifu49494 жыл бұрын
"Watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury" I see no downside
@wulfgrumheimfjarl33464 жыл бұрын
you will still be called for repeatedly just to wait a couple hours and then be rejected and put back on the shortish list of people who haven't been on a jury
@sandygehrmann63094 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with serving on a jury?
@thomy25624 жыл бұрын
@@sandygehrmann6309 Do you have hours upon hours of time to throw away for some dude who did something semi-trivial? If you do, there is nothing wrong.
@sandygehrmann63094 жыл бұрын
@@thomy2562 I don't, but I find it interesting to see how the legal process works, and they do pay quite well for jury duty in my city. Btw, I meant no offence by the question - no need to get aggressive :)
@thomy25624 жыл бұрын
@@sandygehrmann6309 I see your point and understand why you would be interested. Sorry if i came off as agressive.
@UOUPv23 жыл бұрын
"...but be warned; simply watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury." 7 years later, can confirm. I have never been picked.
@siquod3 жыл бұрын
There's an extra watchlist only for this video. Everyone who watches it is on the list.
@burritowyrm65303 жыл бұрын
I paused so idk whether to watch it or not
@Chimonger13 жыл бұрын
@@siquod 🤣🤣🤣
@Arcangel07233 жыл бұрын
@@siquod considering that there are 12 million views and most of them are coming from the US I think that to be not unlikely.
@braidena16333 жыл бұрын
I just wrote in the margin that i've got a bachelor of science and am an extremely analytical person, and that they'd be wasting time and money having me come in. It's kinda douchey but I know this sort of thing is the opposite of an ideal jury for the lawyers. Havent been called back since.
@Sleepycreature6872 жыл бұрын
“Ever Heard of a little thing called jury nullification?” - Saul Goodman
@ronaldinhogaucho54602 жыл бұрын
*hand gesture*
@billgates-vm4ui Жыл бұрын
The illuminatus trilogy. Probably my favourite work of fiction. Unless...... Operation mindfuck is real.
@ScottMaday3 жыл бұрын
I watch this on an annual basis to ensure I'm not selected for jury duty
@WilliamCWayne Жыл бұрын
It's time
@grifflancer29994 жыл бұрын
Jury: "We find the defendant, not guilty" Prosecutor: "But the defendant admitted guilt while in custody!" Jury: "Well we disagree with the defendant."
@---cr8nw4 жыл бұрын
It's more of "well, we disagree that what the defendant admitted to is a crime." It actually happens sometimes in murder cases. The defendant claims self-defense, but the way things went down don't meet the legal criteria for lawful use of deadly force. But the jury is sympathetic that the defendant wasn't acting maliciously, so they vote to acquit.
@ceruchi20844 жыл бұрын
"But the defendant admitted guilt while in custody." I HOPE the jury has heard about the Reid interrogation technique, which is widely used in the U.S. and is designed to extract confessions-false or not. The assumption of the Reid technique is that the guy you arrested is definitely guilty. So to the cops who use it, it's morally justified to get a confession by any means, even intense psychological pressure and a nonstop stream of lies. The problem is, sometimes the suspect isn't guilty. Too bad: the technique is so finely honed that he usually confesses anyway.
@0Clewi04 жыл бұрын
There are many documentaries that show that admitted guilt doesn't mean they're guilty, they almost torture them to get a confession and in part that's why there are so many plea bargain because they don't let them free beforehand.
@trezapoioiuy4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like for instance, the reason the accusating side for a, say, racism-related crime will try to keep anyone they suspect might be a racist out of the jury. Because he could think the accused did indeed commit the crime, but he's fine with him doing that and will try to keep him from being punished.
@MMOSimca4 жыл бұрын
@@---cr8nw Worth pointing out that this is still nullification, even if the jury doesn't know the phrase 'jury nullification'. They're disagreeing that the legal criteria for lawful use of deadly force is a good law in this case.
@AragornRespecter2 жыл бұрын
My dad’s a lawyer and he’s a big believer in jury nullification, “the officer has the discretion to issue a warning or a ticket, the prosecutor can choose to prosecute or not, the jury (who is in the constitution) has the discretion to convict or not”
@VivBrodock2 күн бұрын
This is becoming very relevant in NYC
@dandyspacedandy4 жыл бұрын
"simply watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury" Oh noooo Don't tell meeeee That'd be the woooorst
@lucasflores15524 жыл бұрын
Space dandy is the best
@exantiuse4974 жыл бұрын
Why is every comment about people not wanting to be in the jury? Isn't it voluntary in America? Can you be forced to serve in the jury? That sounds like a terrible system
@SSardonic4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can be forced to! It's called Jury Duty, not Jury Volunteering. Your employer is required to give you time off to serve, and the court pays you for your time. Basically if you're a citizen and you're residing in the states, you might get a letter saying you have to come in to court to serve duty on a jury. They actually call many more people than they need for a 12 person jury, and then they pick the 12 people that both sides can agree on. It's sort of necessary in a country that gives every citizen the right to trial by a jury of your peers -- there's no way you could get enough jurors to support that just by asking nicely!
@battleskorpionYT4 жыл бұрын
@@exantiuse497 it is forced but they pay but this pay varies by country jurisdiction etc. In america this pay is next to nothing, especially because it doesn't really scale with the trial length in days.
@Emily124713 жыл бұрын
Oh nooooo my finger slipped an i am learning all about this thing
@polspect4 жыл бұрын
For anyone wanting to use this info to get out of jury duty, you don't go in yelling "jury nullification!". They will likely charge you with contempt for that (because you are essentially saying that you will attempt to poison the jury). Instead, all you have to say is ""I won't say someone is guilty if I think it is an unjust law that they have broken, even if it is obvious that they committed the crime." The judge will know exactly what you mean, and they will dismiss you with no further questions.
@edwardgoodson76284 жыл бұрын
The only reason to say that would be to get out of jury duty. If you feel strong enough about it to refuse to convict then you feel strongly enough about it to keep your mouth shut, it would be your duty to see an unjust law set aside since it is supposed to be a JUSTICE system.
@theunholysmirk3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardgoodson7628 thats. PERJURY. Which is a CRIME.
@Emily124713 жыл бұрын
Welp... Time to forget this when i eventually do get Jury Duty
@shanekeenaNYC3 жыл бұрын
@@theunholysmirk Power in politics does weird things to people. Even something as low-strung as jury duty.
@geroutathat3 жыл бұрын
You can just say "I might not agree with all laws in all circumstances" the others in the court will just think youre a hippy against laws, but the judge will know you mean nullification.
@QuackersMcCrackers8 жыл бұрын
'Simply watching may prevent you from ever serving on a Jury'. *Clicks play button*
@kiba_the_lucky8 жыл бұрын
And that's why I watched this video. WHO HAS TIME TO GET UP, LISTEN TO PEOPLE ARGUE FOR A COUPLE HOURS, THEN DECIDE WHO WAS RIGHT?
@TheMegalusDoomslayer8 жыл бұрын
Liz Debate judges
@plumeater18 жыл бұрын
*I am the law*
@datboibiz17 жыл бұрын
kemboy323 shut the fuck up😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dude way too funny
@nikhilsrajan7 жыл бұрын
*LAW*
@gravoxxavox78493 жыл бұрын
I remember once my teacher was talking about a time he was in a jury for a burglary trial. A man allegedly robbed a jewellery story of 30K worth of diamonds and was facing court. The thing is, the entire jury team felt sorry for the man because he had a family and was struggling. The jury all decided to simply deem him not guilty out of pity and so the man was released. Teacher didn’t know about nullification. All he did was practice it.
@tonypringles22853 жыл бұрын
Should have jailed him
@Evan345gdf3 жыл бұрын
@@tonypringles2285 🤨
@igustibagusananda77063 жыл бұрын
@@tonypringles2285 Yea. A crime is a crime
@gravoxxavox78493 жыл бұрын
@Jon When he told the story the whole class just asked a thousand and a half questions before the bell rang.
@tonypringles22853 жыл бұрын
@@Jermain-cz4bh he should have been arrested, just because you're poor is no excuse for robbery, it doesn't make it right. Is it okay for me to kill a man and steal their money if im poor?
@thechickencoop49274 жыл бұрын
I once answered “yes” and then was asked to explain why, so without telling a full courtroom of possible jurors what jury nullification is i had to explain to the judge what jury nullification is. I haven’t received another jury notice since, its been 5 years.
@OurFreeSociety4 жыл бұрын
Thy removed the other potential jurors?? The whole system is a mafia criminal system.
@stephenhay48784 жыл бұрын
@@OurFreeSociety yes really when you think about it. It is only a group of people that came together and made a set of rules that nobody but them agreed too that is no different than the the other group of people that came together and made their own rules without consulting anyone about them. Show me the difference. One just seems to have air of authority to it and the other is a group of lawyers 😂 yeah but i always thought what makes a government different from a gang and i realised it was the suit and ties alone that seperate them
@randystegemann99903 жыл бұрын
I had to fill out a very long questionnaire when I was called to potentially be a juror in a class-action involving Microsoft. In the comments at the end, I said that I support the concept of jury nullification. Not that I intended to do it, just that I support it. They also asked my opinion of Bill Gates. I think Microsoft is garbage and Bill Gates is a crook for his predatory business practices, no matter how much he poses as a philanthropist now. I answered that honestly but politely and have not received a summons for jury duty since, over a decade, now.
@Isochest3 жыл бұрын
@@randystegemann9990 No place for the truth!
@randystegemann99903 жыл бұрын
@@Isochest Truth is a three-edged sword.
@kyleschroder90456 жыл бұрын
I Was going to close the video. But then he said "warning, this video may prevent you from ever doing jury duty." I then watched it 3 times for good measure.
@tylern95335 жыл бұрын
And commented a couple times for good measure
@tyler895575 жыл бұрын
Can it prevent me from being drafted as well?
@justsomechupacabrawithinte27825 жыл бұрын
I hope so because from my brother’s experiences in basic courts it’s either quick or boring as HELL
@Lord_Volkner5 жыл бұрын
When intelligent people stop serving on juries we end up with a broken system. How do you think we ended up where we are now? Because the intelligent people find a way to avoid jury duty.
@Aagames_5 жыл бұрын
666th like :)
@scottowens3983 жыл бұрын
"Be warned, simply watching may prevent you from ever being on a jury." 12 million people:
@DJRowas6 жыл бұрын
Lawyer: "You are required by law to serve if you get chosen". Me: "No thanks. I'm busy. Jury Nullification". Lawyer: "Have a good day, sir."
@okaythen0016 жыл бұрын
Does that work, I got jury duty in 2 weeks. and you say that during voir dire right? not in "excuses" in the ejuror site that you type in.
@wholeNwon6 жыл бұрын
You should not do it that way. The judge could hold that your behavior was deliberately disruptive and intended to poison the jury pool. Don't be STUPID. Ask to speak with the judge and prosecutor in private. The judge will likely ask whether you will nullify or whether you might based on the evidence presented at trial.
@fredflintstone47156 жыл бұрын
Okaythen001: So how did it (jury duty) go?
@okaythen0016 жыл бұрын
Didn't get picked
@Chris-zx1ez6 жыл бұрын
@@okaythen001 Win?
@BitcoinMotorist8 жыл бұрын
In New Hampshire, the right of jury nullification is now a required part of the judge's jury instruction. Paraphrase "If you believe the prosecution has proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt but you think that a guilty verdict would bring about an unjust result, you may find the defendant not guilty".
@chistinelane8 жыл бұрын
I love my state just a bit more now
@EulerSqueaks8 жыл бұрын
Makes me like living in the state that everyone forgets even more now.
@attcat8 жыл бұрын
I've always thought it should be someone else than "not guilty". Maybe splitting it up into "not proven", "not guilty", or... something that basically means unpunished.
@Mark738 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't. They passed that law in 2012, but in 2014 the NH Supreme Court gutted it. Wikipedia -> Jury Nullification -> State laws
@xenonram8 жыл бұрын
+Pastlife17 Lol, you said, "It should be something other than 'not guilty.'" Then went on to say, "maybe something like 'not guilty...'" Contradictory?
@ElBrandoTV7 жыл бұрын
"Watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury" *Doubles video speed*
@aeea83186 жыл бұрын
ElBrandoTV 😂
@bobbyflynn63526 жыл бұрын
ElBrandoTV no jury duty? Yes please!
@111-i6j6 жыл бұрын
No ×0.25 gives them more time to notice.
@aaronmicalowe6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start a viral email that posts this video across the whole planet :o)
@KappaJones6 жыл бұрын
Everyone share this video on every social media platform *including myspace*
@bernier422 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing how, after duels were banned/criminalized in Britain’s “Canadian” colonies, jurors would refuse to convict someone for engaging in a duel, if they felt the duel had been conducted “fair and square”.
@studentofsmith2 жыл бұрын
Honestly if the duel had been between consenting adults, had been conducted "fair and square" and they hadn't put anyone else at risk through their actions I wouldn't convict either.
@lile60437 жыл бұрын
Judge: "does the jury find them innocent or guilty?" Jury: "yes."
@Yahriel7 жыл бұрын
and that's why they should ask if you're a programmer.
@AmShibes7 жыл бұрын
Pretentious Asshole I also live in yes town
@shinji52177 жыл бұрын
♥Ms. PikaShiba156♥ i'm a fan of Yes as well
@sinni8007 жыл бұрын
*mathematician This would probably return false in a programming environment unless the first condition is true, as the second only only says "guilty".
@Lambda_Ovine7 жыл бұрын
Ha, boolean logic!
@bleuebrade36554 жыл бұрын
In a jury: "Well, there's only two choices" CGP Grey from a dark corner: *Actually there's three*
@declaniii63244 жыл бұрын
BleueBrade actually there’s four
@declaniii63244 жыл бұрын
Aaron Long you can say not guilty and think guilty or you can say guilty and think not guilty
@beachcomber20084 жыл бұрын
A choice has two/three/maybe more options. It's a choice. It isn't TWO choices. Americans haven't *_learned_* English. Instead they *_parrot_* it.
@bleuebrade36554 жыл бұрын
@@beachcomber2008 the word choice isn't dual. The word "choice" can be used instead of the word "option" in the right context (this is the right context). If you've studied latin or speak a latin dominated language then I understand the confusion since the word **"alter"** implies duality, an alternative. Also, I'm not American
@declaniii63244 жыл бұрын
beachcomber2008 in a casual context it can be used as either.
@4Shaman4 жыл бұрын
Life hack for avoiding jury duty: "I recuse myself from jury duty on the grounds that I'm aware of jury nullification and the statistical probability that jurors with such knowledge give biased verdicts."
@TheBelrick4 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand a young man murdered his entire family. he was convicted and sent to jail. Over the coming years he ran a massive propaganda campaign framing his murdered father for the crime. finally he was given a retrial, new evidence emerged that collaborated the original conviction. never mind he just ran his defense ignoring that and continued to slur his fathers name. No evidence supported the father being the killer, but the doubt was set because under NZ law, dead people cannot be defended in court. The jury set the young man free then immediately rushed to his side and... hugged him. Impartiality. yay for legal systems, a game where he who rigs best, wins.
@は私です彼の名前4 жыл бұрын
Bel Rick I know of a disgusting story of a creep who stole from his boss, and when confronted he sued her, won and then burned down the business.
@TheBelrick4 жыл бұрын
@@は私です彼の名前 Its a tragedy for sure.
@57thorns4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBelrick Which is why a jury of unskilled people is a bad idea. Having it in the 1800s was another thing, as only select few (white men) could get jury duty, and the idea was to protect these white men from everyone else (whom they had wronged, each women, child and person of colour).
@Zombie-lx3sh4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBelrick Corroborated, not collaborated.
@CacoPholey3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get called for jury duty and say the phrase "jury nullification, bottom text"
@ThatGuyNicho3 жыл бұрын
Later at your contempt of court trial: "My client only did it for the memes, Your honour"
@Ailurophile9002 жыл бұрын
Write down and pass it around just watch out for cameras🐱
@shadowling777772 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuyNicho based
@Gamebuilder20002 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuyNicho The Jury: "wait what's the crime that was committed?" Prosecutor: "uhhh we can't tell you"
@shawncoleman8530 Жыл бұрын
*lips pressed against mic" I was radicalized by memes, your honor!
@yellobanana64564 жыл бұрын
Aw yeah man I can't wait to go onto the jury and just yell *N U L L. B O O Y A*
@TempDevil3 жыл бұрын
YES, DO IT
@twisting_badger3 жыл бұрын
Suction cup man would totally do that if he knew about it.
@G_Light5003 жыл бұрын
The suction cup man is 10/10 with this comment
@greativity03 жыл бұрын
*B U L L. N O O Y A*
@astrodev48223 жыл бұрын
I mean he’s already been in court
@l.tc.50328 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting me out of jury duty.
@Lugmillord8 жыл бұрын
It was easier for me - just living in a country that doesn't have one. I don't really get the reason behind it anyway. What do people know about laws when not studying it?
@themurmeli888 жыл бұрын
+Lugmillord Hence the reason why US court is often referred to as theater. It is just as, if not more important to play on the emotional biases of the jury, as it is making your case. This is why machiavellianism is such an infamous trait of lawyers.
@Aikman948 жыл бұрын
He warned you.
@bythegraceofadoni8 жыл бұрын
+themurmeli88 did you know the original meaning of court was to dance and play. which is why we know them as courts today. in the old days it was alot more bullshit in terms of "fair" trials. and it was just back and forth "dancing" persay
@themurmeli888 жыл бұрын
Karl cos Hmmm, well it sounds fitting.
@thefivevowels36015 жыл бұрын
I demand trial by combat, my champion will be the judge himself
@hydrolito5 жыл бұрын
You would be held in contempt of court and locked up even longer.
@SovereignStatesman5 жыл бұрын
I will PAY to see you try that.
@Ichigo904 жыл бұрын
Your wish is granted, but the judge is a demon lovechild of Chuck Norris and Vin Diesel.
@maverick94094 жыл бұрын
You have to convince your champion to accept
@shadowmoth5224 жыл бұрын
taking ace attorney to a new level
@benjiusofficial3 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to serve on a jury but, when asked exactly that question in voir dire, my response has always been that every reasonable person would circumvent the law if it went against their ethical/moral concerns, which is the foundation of the law.
@bdancepants50033 жыл бұрын
well said
@Inkyminkyzizwoz3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, nullification can potentially work the other way too. While a jury could theoretically acquit someone because they believe that the law they've been charged with breaking is unjust, they could also convict someone just because they think that they look a bit dodgy or something
@scottmalchow34282 жыл бұрын
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Can we charge a politician with breach of promise?
@Inkyminkyzizwoz2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmalchow3428 If a politician promised to do something really bad then I'd actually be quite happy for them not to keep that promise!
@MissMyMusicAddiction2 жыл бұрын
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz I fell like I am experiencing deja vu...like that was discussed during the video, or something.
@camo_kamikaze15984 жыл бұрын
I feel like this was used in a case in Texas, where a man killed another who had sexually assaulted the first man's daughter. He did it, but the jury agreed it was justified.
@johnlarsen41573 жыл бұрын
Had nothing to do with nullification, had *everything* to do with the event being in TEXAS. If you want another example just look up Ron White and Texas Death Penalty.
@jimhughes10703 жыл бұрын
Amen
@jimhughes10703 жыл бұрын
.
@Cj-qt2ls3 жыл бұрын
All pedophiles should be put to death
@manastrivedi38413 жыл бұрын
I think @JOHN LARSEN is correct from this news snippet: "Under the law in the state of Texas deadly force is authorized and justified in order to stop an aggravated sexual assault or sexual assault."
@BennysGamingAttic5 жыл бұрын
Judge: "Why can't you serve as a juror?" Me: "I can't tell you. If I did, I'd get arrested." Judge: "Cool. See ya!"
@lextatertotsfromhell76735 жыл бұрын
Ben From Gulf City no, you would say I plead the 5th
@ariari41335 жыл бұрын
Usa systeme of in no justice is as ill as can be, Bob Dylan Hurricane
@dinobotpwnz5 жыл бұрын
The arrests are just for trying to convince jurors to nullify while a case is ongoing and they're often overturned on First Amendment grounds anyway.
@nimrodfilms51045 жыл бұрын
a better one would have been judge: why cant you serve as a juror? me: I cant tell you. if I did, id get arrested judge: ayyyyy me: ayyyyyy
@ariari41335 жыл бұрын
@@nimrodfilms5104 i don,t understand howe jury systeem works who says you be a jury member,not anny knolidge of law needet,ik heb geen idee hoe dat jurysysteem werkt.Hoe komt het tot stand,wie bepaalt dat?dat er een paar mensen met of zonder enig gebrek aan kennis van zaken. Besluiten of iemand ergens schuldig aan is. Kan iemand mij uitleggen hoe dat gaat ??
@Toungecat4 жыл бұрын
"But be warned: simply watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury" *Insert Homer "Woohoo" here*
@BOG06904 жыл бұрын
Remember all his pairs of glasses?
@FOR3STHILLS3 жыл бұрын
Fr like how's this a warning, who WANTS to be on jury duty? Lmao
@ArchHippy3 жыл бұрын
The trick is to say you're prejudiced against all races.
@syntheticant81723 жыл бұрын
@@ArchHippy Hah omg that was a great line, Homer can be so funny
@RaymondCritchley54832 жыл бұрын
3:03 In any trial which requires the jury to be unanimous, a single determined juror can hang the jury, causing a mistrial. Prosecutors might not want to spend the resources it would take to bring the defendant to court again, especially if they believe that the result will be another hung jury or even an acquittal. A single nullifying juror could be highly effective, for better or worse.
@wj11jam787 жыл бұрын
"Hello, you have been chosen to serve a jury-" "I once watched a CPG Grey video about nullification." "..."
@jon-z6i6 жыл бұрын
Gets arrested
@qhdhwjjsjdsu6 жыл бұрын
@@jon-z6i for typo
@TheCStrike24 жыл бұрын
Those three dots after the two laws means therefore. I learned that in my advanced maths in my Cs program. Nice
@nadeyd95674 жыл бұрын
learned this in 8th grace from a VERY nerdy teacher but it’s so helpful!
@TheFattestLInHistory4 жыл бұрын
I learned it weirdly enough in Rhetoric
@Ignirium4 жыл бұрын
Does that mean Predator's laser weapon shoots "therefore" at people.
@potato_nugget4 жыл бұрын
I learned it in 8th grade maths
@cookiedove6594 жыл бұрын
We use it everyday in maths class from 7 or 6 onwards.
@cp-ip7vn3 жыл бұрын
Yo i just wanted to sit down and watch some youtube and now i've potentially implicated myself in just 4 minutes
@Dr_mafario3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Grey, this is what he does
@Not_An_Otter3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_mafario yup also give you useless useful knowledge
@banan49903 жыл бұрын
4 minutes? More like less than 30 seconds.
@KunfupandaLover3 жыл бұрын
@@banan4990 porI
@ElSheepodoggo3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. I'm sure they're not worried about you, bub.
@AuroraFirestorm2 жыл бұрын
So, the thing about it supposedly being against those questions that people ask you before you're on the jury. Since nullification exists as a consequence of the law, it is based strictly on the law, and therefore if you answer that you are fine making decisions purely based on the law, you are not lying. Nullification is part of the law, just unintentional.
@NeverEverTM5 жыл бұрын
"Watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury" *_8,576,874 views_* Edit: Man, i even forgot i made this comment, just one thing, this is just a funny haha please dont overthink the joke. Thank godness i deactivated comment notifications.
@caucasusmapper70985 жыл бұрын
I think at that point the view already counted in though..
@PGM826075 жыл бұрын
8.7M***
@bxdanny5 жыл бұрын
It won't get you out of jury duty, just out of actually serving on a jury. You'll spend your time in the assembly hall, or repeatedly being called as a prospective juror and then rejected.
@medexamtoolscom5 жыл бұрын
Even if they had stopped watching as soon as they heard those words, the view count would be unaffected though, it would have still counted as a view.
@GnI19915 жыл бұрын
Not everyone watching the video is living in a country, that has juries.
@Aly-vw1rh3 жыл бұрын
CGP Grey: Be warned, simply watching this video may prevent you from ever serving on a jury Me, law student from The Netherlands where there is no jury system: Oh no, what a nightmare!
@alice_in_wonderland423 жыл бұрын
In India they abolished the jury system after a jury nullification(of 8:1 not guilty) and later convicted the person.
@RK-cj4oc2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, alot easier for politicians to get judges to do what they want here.
@karanaima2 жыл бұрын
As a french person I entirely relate to this
@detorrV22 жыл бұрын
@@RK-cj4oc high profile cases dont have a jury anyway nor they have a saying in the interpretation of the law
@parthbonde21062 жыл бұрын
@@alice_in_wonderland42 oh wow we had one, interesting I didn't know this.
@loseronyoutube30367 жыл бұрын
i will not speak about this EVER. mostly because i'll forget probably.
@bobbyflynn63527 жыл бұрын
lozer on youtube you should share this with everyone to promote free speech.
@doritolord7096 жыл бұрын
This is so true
@CoolGuy550006 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, watched this video quite a while back and forgot what it was about.
@catemcdowell6 жыл бұрын
thats a big mood
@nanoflower16 жыл бұрын
I can't forget about. Was called in for jury duty not long ago and discussed the subject with another potential juror. Not advocating it but I just mentioned it as a third option to the two that he mentioned. Though I would only use it if I thought someone were being unfairly treated (which is a rare case.)
@ErzengelDesLichtes2 жыл бұрын
Sooo I was called for Jury Duty in an affluent area of Southern California. Right before starting the Jury Questionaire, the judge explained Jury Nullification to us, and explained why we shouldn’t do it, and said “Now that you all know about it, you can’t use it as an excuse.” Word’s gotten out…
@vcool2 жыл бұрын
Oh but the jury can use it. It is their right. The jury has no obligation here to listen to the judge.
@ErzengelDesLichtes2 жыл бұрын
@@vcool He didn't say we can't nullify the law (though he said we shouldn't). He said we can't use it *as an excuse*, an excuse being "excused from jury duty".
@mattc35812 жыл бұрын
@@ErzengelDesLichtes Tbh even if you answer perfectly truthfully that you intend to apply the verdict according to the law, and you know nothing about jury nullification, I would still expect a large percentage of people when confronted with a crime that was 'technically' against the law but which they perceived as completely justified would still say not guilty. So jury nullification probably goes on a decent amount just without getting much press, the fact you know about it probably doesn't alter how likely you are to do it very much. The only advantage to knowing about it is knowing that you can't get in trouble for doing it, which would maybe put off a few people, especially if the judge goes heavy on emphasising they have to give a verdict based on the law and only the law.
@ClamChowder_FireBuff695 жыл бұрын
Grey: *This video will prevent you from serving in a jury* *loops video for 10 hours*
@yellowblack48825 жыл бұрын
That's kinda racist
@ClamChowder_FireBuff695 жыл бұрын
......how?
@windowcleaner47245 жыл бұрын
@@yellowblack4882 how
@cheesecakelasagna5 жыл бұрын
Racist against Greys, I guess...
@kam28945 жыл бұрын
Yellow Black how
@a_Lemming7 жыл бұрын
So if it's perjury, what happens when you're being tried for perjury and you must inform the jury of jury nullification?
@itaieiron72756 жыл бұрын
MIND BLOWN!
@xx_insecure_white_boy_36_x286 жыл бұрын
Inception 2
@emperorpenguin63106 жыл бұрын
Only one person was ever actually charged like that (Laura Kriho) and it was overturned on appeal because the appeal's court rightly realized that the only reason she was charged was because she had advocated for a not guilty verdict, had it been a guilty verdict nothing would have happened to her. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant because if it even seemed to be true it would have chilling effects on future jurors who would be afraid they would be investigated if they gave a controversial not guilty verdict. The idea that someone can be convicted for perjury and not immediately struck down on appeal in this circumstance is theoretical.
@isaiahsoto1336 жыл бұрын
EmperorPenguin has
@artemis1996 жыл бұрын
Oh, loophole! 😂
@doug89828 жыл бұрын
The first rule of jury nullification is: You do not talk about jury nullification. The second rule of jury nullification is: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT JURY NULLIFICATION.
@goshtamoshta8 жыл бұрын
You just did it twice
@CoolieCoolster8 жыл бұрын
So jury nullification is fight club? ;P
@bryanchu53798 жыл бұрын
the third rule of jury nullification: If you really really really think the law is completely stupid and Donald Trump made that law......... YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT JURY NULLIFICATION!!!!!
@rarepepe66178 жыл бұрын
ah I do love Fight Club references.
@Tonnredein8 жыл бұрын
Presidents don't make laws.
@LiorIPSC2 жыл бұрын
These animated pictograms when discussing law are such a welcome relief. When I was young I decided to go to medical school rather than law school because of the latter's absence of picture books!
@davidmartin26268 жыл бұрын
Gonna get a Null Booya shirt for my next yearly jury duty.
@betterwithrum7 жыл бұрын
+1
@nick-gp1jw7 жыл бұрын
Saaaaaaammmmmmmmeeeeeeee
@nathanroon69617 жыл бұрын
+++
@worsethenjacksfilms23727 жыл бұрын
David Martin If you watched the video, you won't have jury duty.
@orbital.experience49626 жыл бұрын
I WAS NEVER TAUGHT WHAT LAWS THERE ARE, *I WAS NEVER TAUGHT WHAT LAWS THERE ARE*
@floridmonkey27236 жыл бұрын
Let me repeat - I was not taught the laws for the country I live in But I know how Henry the VIII killed his women Divorced beheaded died, divorced beheaded survived Glad that’s in my head instead of financial advice
@tracypearson83946 жыл бұрын
boyinaband lol
@Markogames-sp8bw6 жыл бұрын
i wasnt taught how to get a job, but i can remember disecting a frog. i wasnt taught how to pay tax, but i know loads about shakespears classics. i was never taught how to vote, they devoted that time to defining isotopes. i wasnt taught to look after my health, but mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell! i never had a lesson on current events, insted i studied the old american west. I was never taught what laws there are. I WAS NEVER TAUGHT WHAT LAWS THERE ARE! Let me repeat! i was never taught the laws for the country i live in but i know how henry VII killed his women! divorce, beheaded, died. divorce, beheaded, survived. glad thats in my head instead of financial advice! i was shown the wavelengths of different hues of light, but i was never taught my human rights. Apparently there’s 30! do you know them? I dont! why the hell cant we both recite them by rote? I know igneous, metamorphic, and sedimentary rocks, yet i dont know squat about trading stocks, or how money works at at all - where did it come from? How does the thing that motivates the world function? not taught to budget or diperse my earnings, i was too busy there rehearsing cursive. wasnt taught how much it costs to raise a kid or what an affidavit is, but i spent days on what the quadractic equation is! Negative b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus 4ac over 2a. Thats insane! that’s absolutely insane! they made me learn that over basic first aid, or how to recogniae the most deadly mental disorders, or diseases with preventable causes, or how to buy a house with a mortgage, if i could afford it, cause abstract maths seems more important than advice that would literally save thousands of lives! but its cool, cuz now i can tell you if the number of unnecessary deaths caused by that choice was prime. never taught present day practical medicines, but i was told what the ancient hippocratic method is. I’ve got a headace the pain is ceaseless! what should i take? umm... maybe try some leeches? can we discuss domestic abuse and get the facts, or how to help my depressed friend with their mental state umm.. no, but learn mental maths, cause you wont have a calculator with you everyday! they say its not the kids, the parents are the problem, well if you taught the kids to parent thats the problem solved then! al this advice. about using a condom, but none for when you actually have a kid when you want one! im only fluent in this language, for serious? the rest of the world speaks two, do you think im an idiot? they chose the solar over the political system so like a typical citizen now i dont know what i’m voting on! what polices exsit or how to make them change? Mais oui, je parle un peu de francais. So at 18 i was expect to elect a representative, for a sytem i had never ever ever been presented with! But i wont take it! ill tell everyone my childhood was wasted! ill share it everywhere how i was educated! And insist the pointless things! Don’t Stay in School! this took me like 30 minutes please like.
@GoesByJ6 жыл бұрын
Markogames123 no you copy and pasted.
@ranfaraj46056 жыл бұрын
LMAO 😂😂😂😂
@jamesgeorge65514 жыл бұрын
I was summoned 25 years ago, and was asked if there was a reason I shouldn't serve, and I told them I was a witness in a manslaughter trial, and fell asleep. I woke up during recess, and the judge, prosecutor, and defense attorneys were jokingly betting about the outcome, and that I had zero faith in lawyers, and all judges were lawyers once.
@smc19422 жыл бұрын
I have been the victim of crime more than once. When I give the details, I'm always QUICKLY excused from jury duty. Neither side wants me around! Just as well. The American judicial system FAILED me multiple times ALL my life. I have NO CONFIDENCE in it.
@NintendoNerd644 жыл бұрын
“Watching will likely stop you from ever getting on the jury ever” I see this as an absolute win
@IDontLikeHandIes3 жыл бұрын
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@oldschooljack34793 жыл бұрын
Hypothetical question: My courthouse has a lot of buildings (mostly attorney's offices) around it. A lot of those buildings have billboards for lease on the sides of them... What if I lease a billboard and have them put up a sign that explains what jury nullification is? Or simply... JURY NULLIFICATION: LOOK IT UP. How long until I start getting phone calls, nasty letters, or knocks on my door?
@dantespimp8 жыл бұрын
I say we make a third choice: Thunderdome. Two men enter, one man leaves. e_e
@londonchamberlain25507 жыл бұрын
dantespimp Lol
@andrewlyon44957 жыл бұрын
More simpley: you may invoke trial by combat as a plea, but no champions and your opponent is fully armed police officer while you get nothing.
@carachance72747 жыл бұрын
RadiusZero I love you.
@zyronltz74947 жыл бұрын
RadiusZero i dont get it
@Akeboun7 жыл бұрын
They had that in medieval Britain, either the defendant and the prosecutor would fight or a representative of their choice, they believed a higher deity would spare the innocent one
@gabrielvarig2 күн бұрын
Luigi Mangione likes this
@I_am_a_cat_6 жыл бұрын
So... In other words, if you're on a jury, ALWAYS yell NULLIFY in order to go home early. Good to know
@shorelockhomes9435 жыл бұрын
Or make shure as long as not breaking any law in your way of finding loopholes such as yes to leagely go home instead of surving on the jury.
@dumdum27525 жыл бұрын
@@shorelockhomes943 sure*
@soplim86325 жыл бұрын
When I had jury duty. I did whatever it took to drag the process on. Sitting on my ass getting paid to do jury duty is easier than my regular day job
@thomaskn10125 жыл бұрын
Sop Lim You must be paid didley squat in your regular job.
@soplim86325 жыл бұрын
Tomaz ... I’m on $100,000 plus a year working underground in mines, in central Australia. It’s hard work. Jury duty is easier than my regular job
@greyfox785694 жыл бұрын
Jury nullification is pretty much the whole point of having a jury in the first place. This is why lawyers and Judges hate it as it was always about the people controlling justice not the courts. Judges in the US have way to much power via plea bargains despite jury nullification. Which is the real reason for so many coerced plea (overcharged cases) bargains by the way.
@Inkyminkyzizwoz3 жыл бұрын
*too much And it can work the other way too. While nullification makes it possible to acquit someone if you believe that the law they've broken is unjust, it also makes it possible to convict them if you think they look a bit dodgy or have any other such prejudices
@nanajosh2 жыл бұрын
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz They can still do that with a guilty/not guilty system. Person looks dodgy and they don't like him or feel the law is unjust then they can all agree to guilty or not. Having a nullification puts that power in the people and says to the court and the general law that "we don't agree". Can it be used for bad? Yes but again so can guilty and not guilty. I also think it's better to have 3 choices rather than 2 because.
@Inkyminkyzizwoz2 жыл бұрын
@@nanajosh The other problem is who decides whether a law is 'unjust'? Because any law can seem unjust to someone with a particular mindset!
@videogamee60372 жыл бұрын
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz that's why juries are made of multiple people.
@Pranav_Bhamidipati2 жыл бұрын
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz We, the people decide whether a law is "unjust". There's a reason why we cast votes in an election to pick people who'd make our laws. Moral inclination is the biggest driving factor, along with projected prosperity.
@mrswan77458 жыл бұрын
Wait, just watching this makes me void from serving jury duty??? ohhh nooooo i tooootally wanted to be on jury duty!!!!!! oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
@mcgrathc1238 жыл бұрын
time off work though! i just got summoned yesterday... : (
@vimitas6318 жыл бұрын
So we call them, this is how it should go: "Yes I received this jury court order." "uh huh" "I know what Jury Nullification is." *Silence and then waiting music.* "I'm sorry sir, you don't seem to be eligible." "That's too bad."
@jaydawg84588 жыл бұрын
I read a funny story about this guy who got summoned and he really didn't want to go. When it was his turn to answer the questions he asked if there was any chance the date could be postponed because there was a big White Power rally on the other coast that he was supposed to go. The lawyer of the afro-american plaintif dismissed him pretty quickly :-).
@DaysDX8 жыл бұрын
Well if you're an honest dude then you still can. Just give the courts no reason to suspect you may not be honest, especially if you are honest!
@fearlesscrusader7 жыл бұрын
I just wear my "Justice: Regular or Extra Crispy?" T-shirt with the Electric Chair on it, and go in muttering "Lock 'em up and throw away the key! The reason we have so much crime today is because we always coddle the criminals! He wouldn't be here if he weren't guilty!" I've been called many times, but never served a day in my life.
@ronskancke14892 жыл бұрын
I got a jury summons years ago and simply told them that I was usually the defendant in most cases and might be a little prejudiced. I also told them about my lawyer at one point sharing proprietary information with the prosecutor and then her being appointed to a judgeship. I was dismissed and haven't been contacted again 20 years and not counting.
@mikemack97013 жыл бұрын
"As long as courts are fair..." Well, that's an assumption, innit?
@singmenow4u3 жыл бұрын
Mike, that word fair is not in any court. Like trying to use a football at a baseball game.
@donovanulrich3483 жыл бұрын
My dad and i were attacked at sams club They are still dancing around the courts and it happened in 2019 I forgot to re regester my truck last year on my dads bday I had a ticket in 19 days and was in court explaining in 25
@ronloc33093 жыл бұрын
As long as your life depends on the judge's mood that day and what he thinks about you Courts can never be fair
@demonslayereren39702 жыл бұрын
@@ronloc3309 change judges to robot without emotion
@MamoonSyed8 жыл бұрын
4,235,843 of us are no longer able to serve on a jury.
@greimalkin8 жыл бұрын
I would probably forget that though as the question is so strange that you can't understand it
@homestar98 жыл бұрын
Your all probably too young anyway
@homestar98 жыл бұрын
Albino Peacock Sorry for my spelling mistake I was typing on my phone.
@richardtickler85558 жыл бұрын
the views are from all over the world. we dont even have jouris in most of europe
@RazorIsEpic8 жыл бұрын
Good its not like I wanted to be part of the Jury.
@theKellyG3 жыл бұрын
I love the "as long as courts are fair" statement at the very end. Since money came into the picture, courts have never been fair.
@blizzard11983 жыл бұрын
Still they have look like they are fair sooooo
@carlosb.90323 жыл бұрын
as a great man in court once said to the jury in WKUK - " wouldn't it be crazy if despite all the clear evidence, you still came with a not guilty verdict"
@jtboy25733 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Trevor Moore
@thisishandlenumber20482 жыл бұрын
It would be crazy, they'd probably make a movie about it and want to interview everyone on the jury.
@MovieRiotHD8 жыл бұрын
Third choice is Trial by Combat
@crowsbridge8 жыл бұрын
Just like in Mechwarrior
@Lisdop8 жыл бұрын
I really like that you know that! I used to be all about Battletech. Pretty cool universe.
@adambrien8968 жыл бұрын
Fourth choice is taking the law into your own hands.
@Joseph-lj4sp8 жыл бұрын
If you're referring to GoT, not anymore hehe
@Kevin-ub2ld8 жыл бұрын
+IceAge actually it originated from the medieval period in England
@eloses116 жыл бұрын
CGP Grey: watch this and you may never be on a jury ...7 million+ views later... CGP Grey: Well at least they watched the video
@carultch6 жыл бұрын
Just knowing and understanding the existence of jury nullification does not prevent you from being able to serve on a jury. It is when you actively have a plan to use it, that disqualifies you.
@larss72255 жыл бұрын
Also, I live in Germany, where defendants are found guilty by the judges.
@woodlefoof25 жыл бұрын
I mean, that’s still not even 3% of the US population even if you assume nobody clicked on this video twice and only Americans watched it
@bograham62214 жыл бұрын
"You may not be able to serve on a jury" Oh no, how terrible.
@noahsmith45053 жыл бұрын
Karen WILL serve on a jury. Do you want your fate decided by Karens?
@bograham62213 жыл бұрын
@@noahsmith4505 Participating in the """justice""" system is such a typically Karen behavior
@noahsmith45053 жыл бұрын
@@bograham6221 Maybe so but this is the system we have here and now
@ryandannelly13682 жыл бұрын
Darrell Brooks just dropped a hint he might inform the Jury about Jury Nullification the day before the closing arguments were supposed to start in the Christmas Parade trial in Wisconsin. The judge, who has been very patient with him considering how he has acted in court, about flipped out and told him under no circumstances is he to discuss Jury Nullification with the jury in his closing arguments.
@rasberryfields21322 жыл бұрын
In this case, though, he is just trying to get the jury to let him off because "he didn't intend to kill 6 people and injure 60+." He did tell jury about it anyway and he was still found guilty on all charges. He didn't want to take responsibility....murder beyond a doubt(crime was on video and had many witnesses) doesn't compare to a man stealing to feed his family. IMO
@itsatwingo535 жыл бұрын
“Watching may prevent you from ever serving on a jury” ReMoVe FrOm WaTcH hIStOrY
@shokprof20645 жыл бұрын
Who would want to be on jury ??? U can help sombody out by helping then in court or against it other many ways than what they want or how they need it??
@silvanogonzalez14885 жыл бұрын
SHOCK PROOF buzzkill
@anandsuralkar29475 жыл бұрын
@@shokprof2064 for someone who has studied law and wanna be a jury
@WhiskeyPhysics5 жыл бұрын
comment tho -.-'
@forwarddiscipline5 жыл бұрын
SHOCK PROOF it was me.
@jonathanlewis61463 жыл бұрын
Person in Jury: "How about Nulli- Judge: *(Cocks gun behind stand)* "Don't even *Think* about it. . ."
@cerebrummaximus37623 жыл бұрын
Jury Person 1: Boy, this Case is Hard Jury Person 2: Ikr, what should we do? Jury Person 3: We have no choice, we have to commence in the Banned Law JP 2: No, don't say it! We might loose our Positions as Jury, turn BACK! JP 1: This is the only way out, Bill. We are left no choice. JP 3: N..... JP 2: Noo! JP 3: U...... JP 2: We can still stop this! Trenner, stop! JP 3: L...L.... JP 1: It's too late now, Bill. There's no way out. JP 2: But... but.... JP 3: I.... F..... JP 1: Come on, Bill. We've already started JP 3: I..... JP 1: C..... A..... JP 2: NOOOOOOO! JP 1,3: T.... I.... JP 2: I know how to Stop this! JP 1,3: Darn! Let's start all over.... N..... U...... JP 4: *I declare a Nullification!* JP 1,2,3: (_¬_¬)-
@Inkyminkyzizwoz3 жыл бұрын
@@cerebrummaximus3762 *lose
@PepperDarlington2 жыл бұрын
You in Georgia ain't you?
@jonathanlewis61462 жыл бұрын
@@PepperDarlington Na, ironically I wrote that while in Cali, long story short I am replying now from Texas 😏
@villaniousmustache48982 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanlewis6146 don't vote democrat like most do in cali
@AnMComm4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, jury nullification in "not guilty" form is the exact point of having the jury in the first place - making sure the law doesn't work the wrong way in a situation it didn't account for.
@mustang82063 жыл бұрын
No
@harryshinn30522 жыл бұрын
I have never been asked to serve on a jury and I 100% believe I am on a list somewhere for watching this at various times.
@warywolfen8 жыл бұрын
I know that in the state of Georgia, juries are REQUIRED to be instructed by the judge about jury nullification. Incidentally, it was due to jury nullification that Al Capone was never convicted of violating the Prohibition Act. The juries knew he had done it, but didn't think alcohol should have been illegal. As for the possibility of a third verdict, that exists in Scotland. There, the options are guilty, not guilty, and not proven. The difference between not guilty and not proven, is that with not proven, the charges can be reintroduced at a later date.
@johnfortner3578 жыл бұрын
But in the US there's still a grand jury that can state there isn't proper evidence to have a trial, which is similar to not proven
@Travis70603129 жыл бұрын
Trial by combat, no other way makes sense.
@KarstenOkk9 жыл бұрын
+Travis7060312 The people? Judges? (scoffs) Kings!? Only the gods can decide justly and fairly.
@Azurath1009 жыл бұрын
+KarstenOkk No they can't, read any holy book and the gods give an unfair advantage to the one(s) they like the most, as does a king, a group of people and a judge. Even Yahweh kills children for making fun of baldness and the Greek and Egyptian gods are worse. At least it's clearly stated that Azathoth doesn't give two sheqels about the ordered universe.
@KarstenOkk9 жыл бұрын
Azurath100 How dare you question the just and true plans of the gods?
@D0g63rt9 жыл бұрын
+Travis7060312 Trial by combat makes the least possible amount of sense. If you're a successfully violent criminal then trial by combat essentially lets you ignore the law which conflicts with the entire concept of law in the first place. /endbuzzkillingtonrant
@ThePsychoRenegade9 жыл бұрын
+Travis7060312 Final Destination, Fox Only, No items.
@corgidog71254 жыл бұрын
Being arrested for knowledge sounds like suppression.
@japr12234 жыл бұрын
No technically your being arrested for lying to the court. But it is definitely suppression.
@virtualdreams72404 жыл бұрын
@@japr1223 How can you be lying to the court about jury nullification if the courts and lawyers don't ever bring up jury nullification? I can understand if they somehow prove you became a juror with the sole intent of nullifying the jury, but just the knowledge that jury nullification exists should not be grounds to prevent someone from serving on a jury. "You know too much about the law so therefore you can't be a juror" is kinda fucking dumb lmao.
@japr12234 жыл бұрын
@@virtualdreams7240 I didn't make the rules. Apparently they ask you before you're selected.
@ashtynstormes17344 жыл бұрын
It sounds like suppression because it is lol
@michalhowling37024 жыл бұрын
If I had a jury that Didn't know about jury nullification it WOULDN'T be a jury of my PEERS
@robertflinch24473 жыл бұрын
"This video may prevent you from ever serving on Jury" What a tragedy. Oh no
@Strategiusz7 жыл бұрын
"do you have any beliefs that might prevent you from making a decision based strictly on the law?" "no, I am like a nazi, I always follow my orders"
@willyj33214 жыл бұрын
If you answer "no" to having heard about nullification but later nullify, can't you just say you heard about nullification during the trial?
@tinseltina4 жыл бұрын
no because lawyers and judges won't talk about it freely like this video. so you couldn't have heard about nullification during the trial
@tinseltina4 жыл бұрын
@From the Soil but that would be if THOSE jurors lied about not hearing about the nullification rule. but you make a decent point, would YOU get in trouble for someone else committing perjury? (is it still perjury if you're not testifying in the court about a case?)
@cherubin7th4 жыл бұрын
Just say you didn't know about nullification, but just did the logical thing.
@stephenshelton42674 жыл бұрын
If you keep your mouth shut and simply vote "No guilty" by saying that you agree with the defendant's lawyer then it's effectively the same thing. A verdict requires a unanimous vote, so if you make it a hung jury it's likely that the state won't choose to prosecute again unless it's some _overtly_ guilty-of-something-nasty defendant (then why aren't you voting guilty?) or a high profile case.
@willyj33214 жыл бұрын
@@tinseltina But couldn't you have watched this video as a juror during the proceedings and found out about it that way?
@fiddletown20025 жыл бұрын
Jury nullification has been around for a long time. It's a natural consequence of the Constitutional prohibition of double jeopardy. And while in an extreme case it may be an ultimate safety valve it actually has very limited utility as an expression of the "Will of the People." [1] Jury nullification is merely the expression of a jury's disinclination for some reason to convict a person who quite probably is guilty of the crime charged. It is the natural consequence of the prohibition of double jeopardy and works because the prosecution may not appeal a jury verdict of acquittal -- even when under the evidence and law the defendant was unquestionably guilty. [2] Jury nullification doesn't change the law. It's not precedent. The law exists and continues to exist and can be applied in other cases. Jury nullification has only let a guilty person off. [3] For jury nullification to work the jury must acquit. That means that all the jurors necessary for acquittal must agree even when they have accepted based on the evidence that the defendant is guilty, and they must so agree even though they had been instructed by the judge that they are to apply the law as explained by him to the facts as they, the jury, find. While a single juror can generally cause a hung jury, a hung jury merely results in a mistrial; and the defendant can be retried. [4] Jury nullification only has meaning in criminal cases. A plaintiff can appeal an adverse verdict in a civil case. [5] Jury nullification works only to the extent that the prohibition on double jeopardy applies. But often one can be tried both on a state criminal charge and a federal criminal charge without violation double jeopardy, even if each charge is based on the same facts. You might remember the Rodney King incident in the early 1990s. The four police officers who were involved in his beating were charged under state law with various "excessive force" crimes, tried in state court and acquitted (well, one drew a hung jury as to one charge). They were subsequently tried in federal court on federal charges involving the same incident and facts, and two of the officers were convicted and sent to federal prison. [6] In theory of course reasons for an acquittal against the weight of the evidence and law could be noble. But historically there have been instances of jury nullification having clearly ignoble application, such as when at times in our history a jury of White men in some States would resolutely refuse to convict a clearly guilty White defendant of the murder of a Black person. [7] Jury nullification of course is possible only when there's a jury, i. e., when a case is being tried to a jury. But precedent comes from appellate courts deciding matters of law.
@averagecitizen84914 жыл бұрын
Alcohol prohibition also ended because too many jurors refused to convict on a horseshit law
@jkops24 жыл бұрын
Comments with actual content should get more likes. Thank you.
@は私です彼の名前4 жыл бұрын
jkops2 It hurts most people’s brains to actually read.
@57thorns4 жыл бұрын
Is it really impossible for the prosecutors to appeal to a higher court in the US?
@fiddletown20024 жыл бұрын
@@57thorns: It's impossible for the prosecution to appeal a jury verdict of acquittal. So if after a jury trial the jury comes in with a verdict of "not guilty" the case is over, and the prosecution can't appeal. There are times when the prosecution can appeal an adverse finding. For example, it's common for a defendant in a criminal case to initially by motion ask the judge to dismiss the case for one of a number of possible, legal reasons. If the judge does dismiss the case, the prosecution can appeal. There are other circumstances under which the prosecution could appeal an adverse ruling. But if the case goes to trial before a jury and the jury finds the defendant not guilty, the prosecution can't appeal.
@m.addington22863 жыл бұрын
In the most fitting way, I actually know about jury nullification due to a clip of Saul Goodman referencing it.
@Carl_with_a_k_2 жыл бұрын
What episode
@Science-ev1he6 жыл бұрын
> The Law You Won't Be Told > *Tells us the law*
@evacslived50285 жыл бұрын
Science 2020 thats the point of the video
@Ziggy_Rotten6 жыл бұрын
"I'd rather 10 criminals get away with it, than one innocent person should suffer unjustly". (Paraphrased)
@jackaroo10395 жыл бұрын
PotatoTornado It’s bad too because punishing someone who didn’t do something let’s the person that did do it do it again before being caught.
@R3lay05 жыл бұрын
@PotatoTornado What you're talking about isn't justice but redemption
@brianjacobsen57625 жыл бұрын
When you have police and courts. Playing win at any cost attitude. With the help of public defenders.in cases were your indigent.for poor and the disadvantage.plead em out. It's all about the $. It's anything but a fair and impartial Justice system.
@soylentgreenb5 жыл бұрын
Then you would condemn the innocent to suffer under 10 criminals. There is a limit; you have to accept that there will be some erroneous conviction rate or there won’t be convictions at all. If there are no convictions the end result is that disputes are settled by random acts of violence and nobody gets convicted for it.
@alsacrime48065 жыл бұрын
PotatoTornado unless you are the falsely accused
@woodlefoof25 жыл бұрын
“So I understand that courts have their own n word”
@legendarytat82785 жыл бұрын
N*ll
@dustin28585 жыл бұрын
Let them know that people are owned by that which they can't talk name
@shurik3nz3465 жыл бұрын
🅱️ullification😂😂😂🤣🤣😂
@monikapadilla39495 жыл бұрын
woodlefoof2 if you have 50% Native American blood by dna certificate you’ll never be called to jury duty!
@i-love-comountains38505 жыл бұрын
i have to serve on a jury so i stopped the video, but i might just say that, if anyone asks *ThE eNtIrE gRoUp Of JuRoRs* if we have any questions...😈
@mirianne9637 жыл бұрын
So if the entire world looked at this video, jury duty as a whole will die...
@LightStorm.7 жыл бұрын
Not true just because you watched this video doesn’t mean you can’t become one.. unless he shows proof it’s a lie..
@DaniPaunov6 жыл бұрын
Unless (maybe) everyone applying to jury duty intends to (mostly) nullify, no. And even then, it's a big maybe. But in reality, not everyone has a computer or phone, not everyone who has one knows about KZbin, not everyone who knows about KZbin knows about CGP Grey, not everyone who knows about CGP Grey knows about this video, not everyone who knows about this video has seen it, not everyone who has seen this video can apply for a jury, not everyone who applies for a jury will get accepted, not everyone who gets accepted will intend to nullify. (Every statement has all the previous ones as true)
@dstinnettmusic6 жыл бұрын
Dani Paunov not sure about your homeland, but you don’t “apply” to sit on a jury here. You are compelled to by the law.
@theMPrints6 жыл бұрын
nope only the US law is so fucked up, with juries and precedent cases......
@LouSaydus6 жыл бұрын
No because jury nullification lays perfectly within the bounds of the law. It is obviously not illegal to nullify and thus you can confidently answer that you aren't intending to do anything outside the bounds of the law.
@MrKruger882 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to take a moment to appreciate the fact CGP squeezes so much information into such a short amount of time, especially considering YT creators can make a lot more money when their videos are over 8 minutes long. A video like this would be SUPER easy to stretch out over 8 minutes simply by slowing it down. This person is literally choosing to earn less income for the same amount of work, simply for the sake of producing a higher quality product. We need more content creators like this.
@whirl36902 жыл бұрын
We don't need content creators willing to sacrifice money for quality, we need a way to make money and quality connected in a way that making higher-quality videos is the best play even if you're just in it for the money.
@SamuelTrademarked2 жыл бұрын
@@whirl3690 The issue with that is that quality is incredibly subjective.
@rayoflight62 Жыл бұрын
Grey is an unique type of content creator here on KZbin. Rara Avis...
@Manofwar7014 жыл бұрын
"This could get you barred from jury duty." Me: Do tell...
@singmenow4u3 жыл бұрын
Here's an answer. Doesn't that tell you it is a rigged game? It takes one of the most important factors of law off the table... DISCOVERY!
@BarockDroneBomba3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao, I randomly clicked on your channel and we're subscribed to so many of the same channels.
@singmenow4u3 жыл бұрын
@@BarockDroneBomba What does that tell you? You ARE AWAKE AND DISCOVERY is making it happen.
@DarkOmegaMK27 жыл бұрын
Null! BOOYA! *Pelvic thrust*
@MrAskmannen5 жыл бұрын
*Pulls out meat scepter*
@randyostrander48615 жыл бұрын
"Shwing"
@trevan50355 жыл бұрын
Hey FBI watching my phone, you seeing this?
@studiousboy6445 жыл бұрын
FBI needs to watch the phones of high value targets. Judging by your words you are still a kid
@chillyglock5 жыл бұрын
NightcoRohak r/woosh
@SrSeed5 жыл бұрын
@@studiousboy644 ok boomer
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@SrSeed5 жыл бұрын
@@milanhlavacek6730 calm down boomer
@Mike-my7uf3 жыл бұрын
Lawyer to Juror: Do you have any beliefs that might prevent you from making a decision based strictly on the law?" Juror: "I saw a CGP Grey video"
@The0Stroy5 жыл бұрын
If the crime is real but too petty to really be punished, then it's the place for nullification.
@berkaninal10245 жыл бұрын
I disagree.Pety crimes can cause a lot of problems in the future so they should always recive a light punishment.
@komrade2235 жыл бұрын
It should be used to target laws and policies made by non elected officials based on "interpretation of the law and their powers to enforce it". Petty crime does need punishment, but community service and classes are better than jail and severe fines in petty crime cases. Nullification should be a tool of the people to strike down unconstitutional laws. The example of lynch mobs just tells me that Nullification cases should be instantly brought up to an appeals court just to discuss the legality of the nullified law, if the law was constitutional then the law stays on the books. Say the EPA declares extended exhaust pipes illegal for some arbitrary reason and justification. Jury nullifies, case goes to appeals, validity of the law and how it came to be are debated. If the law is declared unconstitutional, then the law is no longer enforceable. This also goes back to the debate between the Spirit of the law and the Word of the law. I'd argue that both Spirit and Word of the law should be broken in most cases to justify a guilty verdict.
@berkaninal10245 жыл бұрын
@@komrade223 thats a very good point.But I didnt neccesarly meant jail time for petty crimes.
@ParkeWithoutReverse5 жыл бұрын
Marijuana possession, for instance.
@cult_of_odin5 жыл бұрын
Jury nullification should be used in ALL cases where the law itself is unconstitutional and no victim results from the action.
@AnonymousHedge7 жыл бұрын
What if you mentioned jury nullification in your testimony and disqualified all of those in the jury?
@Mernom7 жыл бұрын
That might be disrupting progress of court? Dunno laws. That's how it sounds anyway.
@peardude89797 жыл бұрын
The judge could instruct the Jury to disregard the witness, but I believe that's it.
@TroyVan66546 жыл бұрын
Mistrial, retrial, and possible sanctions.
@robertcotton53336 жыл бұрын
Brian Pollard I
@parafraceren6 жыл бұрын
This needs a better answer.
@xostler5 жыл бұрын
_”Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”_ -Preamble of the Declaration of Independence
@DylanBegazo5 жыл бұрын
Xan Ostler what if they do not consent? Feminist: Rape! Me: 😂
@Trevonious955 жыл бұрын
like you, the governed
@debbieturner63464 жыл бұрын
Google preamble to the constitution of the united States. No where in it does it say what you claim it says! Moron!
@tagndash014 жыл бұрын
@@debbieturner6346 That's because it's in the Declaration of Independence. Just like the original poster stated... You feel that? It's the realization of your own stupidity setting in...
@guardiandogoargentinos13854 жыл бұрын
@@tagndash01 nope. That's a disinformation agent. He knew exactly what he was doing....Hoping to mislead others from figuring out that no1 can lawfully force them to do anything they don't want to do.
@pxyfox20002 жыл бұрын
Ok so let me get this straight…if I go into a trial yelling “ jury nullification “ and get arrested for contempt then take that case to a jury trial where I get to testify about how I yelled jury nullification then I essentially just tainted the entire jury and would have to pick a new jury and just get myself stuck in a catch 22…huh…this sounds like fun. What if you could use this premeditated like you would have a shirt that said it on there or even like tatto it to your forehead so that when they give a description of you as the suspect they have to say the word and get the case thrown out that that way…
@starlacUK2 жыл бұрын
From what little I looked into this, it seems contempt of court in the US is the sole discretion of the Judge/Court and doesn't require a jury to enact or enforce (not legal advice).
@DougRayPhillips2 жыл бұрын
@@starlacUK Correct.
@jacksong62262 жыл бұрын
Could you still request a jury trial?
@embr42474 жыл бұрын
0:20 worried about not being able to serve on a jury for two seconds. Then remembered, different country=different laws.
@wurttmapper22003 жыл бұрын
It is still valid as long as jurors can't be punished and people can't get a second trial after being found innocent
@unknowngod82213 жыл бұрын
Mission failed next time
@NoriMori19923 жыл бұрын
@@wurttmapper2200 That only affects whether jury nullification is an option. It doesn't affect whether knowing about it affects your eligibility to be on a jury, which is what OP is talking about.
@NoriMori19923 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you _must_ live in a different country, if you were worried about _not_ being able to serve on a jury 😂
@Wanking_wanker5 жыл бұрын
“If you watch this you might not ever serve on a jury” *IM DEFINITELY WATCHING NOW*
@luyangche82789 жыл бұрын
"...the other 11 angry men..." That reference tho
@katygilday69859 жыл бұрын
+Luyang Che That was a good movie
@luyangche82789 жыл бұрын
+Katy Gilday I agree
@aktan4ik9 жыл бұрын
+Luyang Che You mean Ocean's Twelve??
@Tfmlacroix9 жыл бұрын
+aktan4ik Nop, 12 angry man, you should watch it ;)
@aktan4ik9 жыл бұрын
Thomas Lacroix ok!
@filetmignon69423 жыл бұрын
"This may prevent you from ever serving on a jury again." I see this as an absolute win!
@zerofox20464 жыл бұрын
My wife swayed a jury 25 years ago. The punishment was way out of line for the "crime". When they came back not guilty, the arresting officer was PISSED!
@changeoffocus10743 жыл бұрын
What was it? A joint worth of weed on a blk guy that was being “ offered “ 10 years!! Something like that !!!! 😐😐😐😐😐
@dre55863 жыл бұрын
@@changeoffocus1074 why were you so specific?
@litrpg1013 жыл бұрын
@@dre5586 because wrongful arrests happen more often to blck people in America?
@dre55863 жыл бұрын
@@litrpg101 I know that and it needs to be fixed. I was just a little confused, that’s all :)
@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai8 жыл бұрын
Wait, if I can get out of jury duty by doing this...
@kard13297 жыл бұрын
HAHA LOL
@robertshawnmitchell7 жыл бұрын
Maybe we can get a CGP Grey video on the game theory of why we should all want to encourage a strong sense of civic duty to serve on juries. Who do you want on *your* jury when you find yourself in the dock?
@RenScorch7 жыл бұрын
this is why you always keep records....of everything, an boy do I mean everything.
@robertdukes35107 жыл бұрын
Im glad this law is in place.
@coreymariani24867 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@Allyheartzz9 жыл бұрын
I love the way he explains things. stick figures + hilariously dry humored slightly sarcastic academic sounding voice
@jeremyallen96243 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can get arrested for informing people about their rights on a jury should tell you everything you need to know about our "justice" system. They don't want people knowing that their "laws" aren't decrees from the gods that no sane person would ever consider disobeying.
@DirtPoorWargamer9 жыл бұрын
So informing them of your intent to practice jury nullification during the interview process should get you out of jury duty without actually breaking any laws? Good to know...
@Maleficarum9999 жыл бұрын
+Wells Why would you want get out of jury duty? I mean somebody's life is in your hand :V :V
@ijirving9 жыл бұрын
+Nika Gogishvili Because you don't get paid for being on jury duty and often times your employer won't pay you in your absence. Some trials can take several weeks so you're effectively paying thousands of dollars for your time.
@bizzieone9 жыл бұрын
+ijirving you get paid for jury duty and your job cant punish you for it
@DirtPoorWargamer9 жыл бұрын
bizzieone The amount you get paid is a joke. It isn't even minimum wage. *Up to* $50 per day (i.e. you could make even less), and only if you serve for 10 days or more.
@gatherer8189 жыл бұрын
+bizzieone Unless you live in one of the forty-nine states in the US which practice some form of at-will employment, where all your boss has to do is claim he's firing you for some other reason besides jury duty and you're 99% powerless to do anything about it.
@KAvanAlten9 жыл бұрын
Glad I live in a country with no Jury system. People know shit, so why let them be in a jury?
@averysutherland2019 жыл бұрын
Sie haben keine wahre Freiheit Holänder
@KAvanAlten9 жыл бұрын
Insane 3842 Und kunnen sie diese wahre Frieheit fur mich definieren denn, Deutscher?
@averysutherland2019 жыл бұрын
ich bin Österreicherin
@averysutherland2019 жыл бұрын
+Krijn van Alten Because People Control Country is true Freedom
@averysutherland2019 жыл бұрын
+Insane 3842 When government is Always in Control People lose Freedom.
@patrickpalen99456 жыл бұрын
There is one additional argument for jury nullification. The ninth amendment. The enumeration of rights within the law can't be used to deny other rights people may have. So, should a jury find that a defendant has a right that is nowhere stated in the law, they would have the constitutional duty to uphold that right. For example, suppose a state has laws against euthanasia, and attempts to convict a wife for killing her dying husband who is in a lot of pain. A jury could find that a right exists for this woman to perform that action and declare her not-guilty.
@sneibarg5 жыл бұрын
Patrick Palen, this is exactly what I was thinking as I learned about nullification today. If I were asked about it by a lawyer, I would recite verbatim the words of the ninth amendment, and say that it refers to natural rights which the people retain, was always understood to mean natural rights which people retain, and was written to assuage the fears of anti-federalists who thought the government would take away their natural rights to wear a hat, sit at the edge of their bed, and do any kind of harmless random thing. A natural right is something that even a state government should not be able to take away.
@se7enthedge3825 жыл бұрын
9A doesn’t exist to draw up “rights” out of thin air, it exists to protect other presumptive rights such as how someone is “innocent until proven guilty” or has reasonable rights to privacy.
@sneibarg5 жыл бұрын
@@se7enthedge382 You say that, but the ninth amendment was written as a response to criticism from the anti-federalists concerned about mundane rights not listed in the constitution. On the contrary, the 9A is still a subject of scholarly debate. scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1850&context=facpub
@Anna-tc6rz5 жыл бұрын
@@sneibarg I agree. A lot of people have gone to jail because they did things technically illegal but in reality were protecting their or someone elses rights.
@sneibarg5 жыл бұрын
@Beumadine Sweevy Our judicial system and certain factions of law scholars that side with them are certainly not working hard to improve our "pre-existent natural rights".
@markberry41983 жыл бұрын
As long as the laws remain in place which allow for jury nullification then any decision you make as part of a jury is a decision based strictly on the law.