The Lebensraum Myth

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Zoomer Historian

Zoomer Historian

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@FieldMarshalFeels
@FieldMarshalFeels 10 ай бұрын
Today I learned that Stalin wanted to carve up a turkey.
@stevekook-xw3is
@stevekook-xw3is 10 ай бұрын
Hehehe duuuuh man as a Bulgarian I know and actually am in support of this. Dont u know Russian empire had allegedly 13 wars with the Ottomans?
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 9 ай бұрын
It fascinates me how ignorant you guys are
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 9 ай бұрын
@@stevekook-xw3is ex-turks (Bolgars) waiting for daddy russia to arrive I see. They gotta pass through the ukraine first tho.
@KR0TE7
@KR0TE7 8 ай бұрын
Yea Russians hated the Turkish yes i know stalin is Georgian but same concept
@JaCrispy3060
@JaCrispy3060 7 ай бұрын
They always wanted to do this since the fall of constantinople lol
@HawkThunder907
@HawkThunder907 10 ай бұрын
I like how you call them Soviets and not "Russians". Many people cant understand the difference between these two.
@Craig-pm2kc
@Craig-pm2kc 10 ай бұрын
Not all Russians are Soviets but all Soviets are Russian.
@RAIDENCHEEKS
@RAIDENCHEEKS 10 ай бұрын
​@@Craig-pm2kcall soviets are not russian lmfao
@Craig-pm2kc
@Craig-pm2kc 10 ай бұрын
@@RAIDENCHEEKS yes they are
@GeorgeDenis.
@GeorgeDenis. 10 ай бұрын
@@Craig-pm2kc Stalin was Georgian
@DeathoftheWest
@DeathoftheWest 10 ай бұрын
​@@Craig-pm2kcTrotsky was Jewish
@reachvictoria3386
@reachvictoria3386 11 ай бұрын
Around 30 years ago I asked the question, “why would Hitler make the same mistake as Napoleon despite his admiration for the man?” This led to research on the matter which concluded exactly what you have revealed in this video. Frankly, it also led to other questions about other allegations against the Reich during this period, and the conclusions there were even more revealing. But that is a topic frowned upon by the powers that be.
@thehypest6118
@thehypest6118 11 ай бұрын
The simple fact we're not allowed to question or talk about it quenches my doubts almost entirely
@theodoremccarthy4438
@theodoremccarthy4438 11 ай бұрын
The prominence of Soviet propaganda in the mainstream narratives around WW2 is strong evidence that “western” media and academia were completely captured by the radical left prior to the war.
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 11 ай бұрын
How are we not allowed to talk about it@@thehypest6118, thehypest6118?
@Leviathan762-zh4lq
@Leviathan762-zh4lq 11 ай бұрын
​@@iansmith5174cute story
@kishka9886
@kishka9886 11 ай бұрын
​@iansmith5174 I don't for a second believe that, it's been proven democratic countries make bad decisions too as they're corrupt. I don't for a second think hitler is perfect but from what I seen there was many advisors and his speeches were less about superiority and more about survival.
@swedishkillerchef9981
@swedishkillerchef9981 Жыл бұрын
Let's see what Reddit has to say about this one
@mrvictorian4004
@mrvictorian4004 Жыл бұрын
Reddit has already responded to his videos?
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
On a few occasions yes
@WakaWaka2468
@WakaWaka2468 Жыл бұрын
Redditors loathe anything right of Noam Chomsky
@ludvigholst4767
@ludvigholst4767 Жыл бұрын
​@tqwjsfuh... yeah, he was actually
@dariovukojevic926
@dariovukojevic926 Жыл бұрын
​@@ludvigholst4767He was the greatest son of Europe.
@indianasunsets5738
@indianasunsets5738 10 ай бұрын
In his book "Hitler's Panzers East", RHS Stolfi pointed out that the Soviet military dispositions were suitable only for an offensive.
@finnberglander7816
@finnberglander7816 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. You don’t stack huge quantities of food, fuel, ammunition, tanks, artillery, and build airfields right on a border you’re wanting to defend.
@BalenCM
@BalenCM 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's why tank and motorised formations lacked more trucks than regular infantry and that's why the soviets got overran. Cmon, it's just not serious
@indianasunsets5738
@indianasunsets5738 9 ай бұрын
@@BalenCM Did your boyfriend tell you to post that? Tell him to make rational arguments for you next time.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 8 ай бұрын
​@indianasunsets5738 u literally provided no counterargument
@TonWab-fd1jm
@TonWab-fd1jm 4 ай бұрын
Russia and Germany had a defensive pact. There was no need to build defensive lines. Additionally, their army wasn't going to be ready for offensive operations for years. This argument was always weak, and no wonder it hasn't survived historiography..
@peha9942
@peha9942 Жыл бұрын
The incidentally recorded conversation between adolf and mannerheim tells quite a story too.
@abeedhal6519
@abeedhal6519 10 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@danielboone8256
@danielboone8256 10 ай бұрын
What were the details of that conversation? Where can I read the transcript?
@madishinnar5497
@madishinnar5497 10 ай бұрын
ya where ?@@danielboone8256
@abeedhal6519
@abeedhal6519 10 ай бұрын
@@danielboone8256used to be on youtube with accurate translation.
@peha9942
@peha9942 10 ай бұрын
@abeedhal6519 History keeps being changed by omissions and by political/newsmedia propaganda. This is to fit the agendas of whoever is in power. Was it right of the Rosevelts to turn a blind eye to the horrors of the Soviets and be best buddies with Stalin? No, "Hollywood, come quick to the rescue." Was Rundolph with the black moustache right in what he did? No, he was certainly not. Was he hated and feared in the neighbouring countries before ww2? Yes, but that was especially true after the war. Is history more complicated than one or two Hollywood movies?
@francksasser1780
@francksasser1780 5 ай бұрын
Alsace Lorraine, originally German Elsass Lothringen. In WWII the first assault after the French declaration of war against Germany was a multi-division assault by France through lower Alsace into the German Saarland, called the Saar offensive. French were thrown out in a few weeks. English speakers are taught that the first invasion on the western front was the German invasion of France, called the Battle of France. .
@rosesprog1722
@rosesprog1722 5 ай бұрын
According to M. Felton, they weren't kicked out, they got scared, turned around and went out by themselves! He he. The Poles also made a small incursion the same day the Germans went in, poor them, they actually believed the French and British promises... they did it again at the end of the war, some just never learn.
@WarLegend50
@WarLegend50 20 күн бұрын
No we're not? We are taught of this offensive.
@mr.milkshakeman2393
@mr.milkshakeman2393 10 күн бұрын
i was always just tot that France made a few small invasion attempts that all lead to nothing
@BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs
@BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs 4 күн бұрын
The French weren't "thrown out". They retreated because Poland had already fallen.
@francksasser1780
@francksasser1780 4 күн бұрын
@@BaptisteMoreau-yx7vs Mostly agree. The French took off after they saw what the Germans did in Poland in two weeks. But the Germans got them a little later, and the Brits as well. The European war was over after the Battle of France. Both the English and the French were rescued by the Americans and Russians.
@asgard13
@asgard13 11 ай бұрын
At the 5th of May 1941 Stalin gave a speech to Red Army Officers at the Moskow Officer Academy. There he confirmed that he wanted an Attack on Germany in 1942.
@hamilcarbarca8659
@hamilcarbarca8659 11 ай бұрын
Stalin called it operation thunderstorm
@Phobos1483
@Phobos1483 11 ай бұрын
@@hamilcarbarca8659 LOL Blitzkrieg
@AnthonySmith-x5z
@AnthonySmith-x5z 11 ай бұрын
Red army which failed hard in war wirh Finland wanted to attack 50x more powerful enemy. Lol not likely
@tomorrowneverdies567
@tomorrowneverdies567 10 ай бұрын
But why would Stalin want to invade Germany? What would he gain? 🤔
@florin-titusniculescu5871
@florin-titusniculescu5871 10 ай бұрын
@@tomorrowneverdies567 the keys to the whole of Europe . natural borders . Eurasia
@ghillieguy52
@ghillieguy52 10 ай бұрын
I heard an explanation that the germans couldn't figure out why Great Briton hadn't sought peace after the continent had been conquered and a victory over germany was impossible by themselves. The conclusion being that they were banking on soviet help and that the invasion was an attempt to shut that down. I suppose it kind of fits into the explanation of this video.
@divideby4billion
@divideby4billion 10 ай бұрын
Britian didnt make peace with Germany because of the influence of Winston Churchill's prompters. If you look into the demographic of Churchill's prompters, you will find they are the same actors of those inside of the Kremlin; the orchestrators of the bolsheviks. The british did not put their hope in the soviets, for the prompters of Churchill knew through the brotherhood of their tribe, that they can collaborate with the fellow tribesmen who inhabit positions of Administration within the Soviet Union. A two front war for Germany was inevitable.
@maxn.7234
@maxn.7234 10 ай бұрын
Britain didn't seek peace because it was banking on dragging the US into the European theater. Roosevelt was a communist sympathizer and desperately wanted the US to enter the war against Germany, but he made campaign promises to keep America out, not to mention most Americans at that time were isolationist and didn't give a shit about European conflicts.
@djocharablaikan8601
@djocharablaikan8601 10 ай бұрын
Drunk childmolester Prime Minister churchil who was happily squating at a majestic jewish house he could have never afford from his salary, and who received significant sum from jews to drag brittain into the war is the reason why brittain had any beef with germany to begin with. He even ordered massive warcrimes to be commited on germans to provoke some sort of retaliation, because public support for "yet another war" with gernany, was very low at the time among british population. But chruchill didnt care about the price brittain would have to pay or civilian casualties, he only cared that judeo-communists defeat germany because his allegiance was with the jews, not with the brits, Child molesting, Drunken, immoral, fat, moronic POS Churchill. Who was, among other things responsible for bengal famine that cost lives of millions and massive warcrimes in dresden. Hedonistic, classless turd who betrayed his own nation to serve the jews and sided with scummunists instead of defending europe from red threat. May dogs p155 on his grave for eternity.
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
They were also banking on American help, Roosevelt was desperate to find a way to enter on Britain's side.
@michaels4255
@michaels4255 9 ай бұрын
Churchill let the cat out of the bag eventually. The decision had already been made before the war that the NSDAP regime must be destroyed, and the invasion of Poland was only a pretext to carry out their plans. Why he did not say, but perhaps it was the influence of banking and business interests, or of Christendom's ancient enemy. I have to watch my words, YT is keeping me on a short leash since I last triggered its algorithm!
@muuuumipappa
@muuuumipappa 20 күн бұрын
Odd (and quite convenient) that you would ignore/exclude Generalplan Ost in a video about Lebensraum… Seems like some serious cherrypicking. Are you going to address GPO in future videos?
@MrDarthtelos
@MrDarthtelos 10 ай бұрын
You forgot about the oil. They blitzed for the Caucasus oil fields while the domestic oil reserve was only about 6 months worth total.
@Bristecom
@Bristecom 10 ай бұрын
Also to cut off the American supply line to Soviet Russia. America was keeping the Soviet war machine going all along.
@finnberglander7816
@finnberglander7816 10 ай бұрын
The US was Lend-Leasing to the Soviet Union before Barbarossa…when Congress specifically forbade it. History is crazy when we dig a little…
@RAIDENCHEEKS
@RAIDENCHEEKS 10 ай бұрын
​@@Bristecomno it wasnt, most US lend lease just by official records arrived in mid 1943, after kursk and stalingrad. However having 20% of the germans off the eastern front helped making it a united war effort against evil.
@thestrange3791
@thestrange3791 10 ай бұрын
​@@RAIDENCHEEKS what do you mean by evil?
@basedchad6035
@basedchad6035 9 ай бұрын
@@thestrange3791 Look at that retards name. His "facts" are nothing but made up lies.
@supersnapp
@supersnapp 10 ай бұрын
Finally, a channel that questions the official narratives that are often set without actual historical accuracy.
@ByZHellas
@ByZHellas 10 ай бұрын
This channel isn't even accurate, it just questions the official narratives while subtly promoting the German POV, which while it can be helpful, kinda just leads to edgy kids in the comment section, and also just fails to tell the truth of what actually happened, just the other side's propaganda.
@kousikdhar9031
@kousikdhar9031 5 ай бұрын
lol what? These are completely inaccurate and simply pro-German propaganda. If you don’t believe me, check out “Why Zoomer Historian is the WORST?” made by an actual Historian with a degree.
@braaap2943
@braaap2943 4 ай бұрын
​@kousikdhar9031 ok. Hitler was a really bad guy we know already, and he had one ball, or none, can't remember. He was gay as well, oh wait nowadays that is not offensive anymore. He was bad man
@kousikdhar9031
@kousikdhar9031 4 ай бұрын
@@braaap2943 Why is your only argument about being gay? Yes, you are correct on your last sentence. Hitler was a bad man.
@KatipunanProductions
@KatipunanProductions 2 ай бұрын
@@kousikdhar9031Even worse, this guy is from Britain.
@tde2902
@tde2902 10 ай бұрын
ah british zoomer telling germanys side of the story that has been silenced so hard for almost 80 years What a time to be alive no more brother wars
@alancantu2557
@alancantu2557 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, the majority of Britain was against going to war with Germany back in the 20th century. It was the ruling elites and Churchill’s fatass that decided to throw the empire away.
@michaels4255
@michaels4255 9 ай бұрын
Alas, don't speak too quickly, there is one going on in Ukraine right now. Aside from the mass casualties, what appalls me the most is how easy it has been to sway public opinion in the west, even with the internet which makes the full story available (at least if you speak English it does), yet which only a tiny fraction of the population appears to avail itself of. "Sheeple" has never seemed a more appropriate word.
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
As British he of course does not tell the whole truth, which was that the USSR only wanted to attack Germany to prevent a supposed German Aggression and that UK and US enabled the establishing of both totalitarian Regimes and supported both to damage them as much as it was possible.
@TheSatanel
@TheSatanel 8 ай бұрын
​@@michaels4255 That's not a brother war.
@Prebondus
@Prebondus 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheSatanel What kind of war is it?
@veloxsterinkognito7512
@veloxsterinkognito7512 10 ай бұрын
There is something missing. The Soviet Union didn’t stick to the additional protocol of Molotov Ribbentrop Pakt. They occupied more/other lands than what was agreed to. After the fact they modified the agreement and swapped areas in the agreement but Germany still felt betrayed and threatened.
@finnberglander7816
@finnberglander7816 10 ай бұрын
It’s odd how “Germany conquering Europe” was/is a justification to go to war against them…while the Soviets did even more conquering during the same time period.
@jameschristensen1055
@jameschristensen1055 10 ай бұрын
@@finnberglander7816 Indeed. More people lived under totalitarian rule in 1945 than had been subject to it in 1939.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 9 ай бұрын
The annexation of Northern Bukovina from Romania was a particularly egregious violation of the Pact.
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 6 ай бұрын
@@gumdeo invading the Soviet Union was a particulary agregiuos violation of the pact. Way more agregiuod than taking some land the size of Gotland.
@999mi999
@999mi999 4 ай бұрын
@@barsukascool One predates the other. The USSR invaded lands that weren't rightfully in their sphere, according to the treaty. Can't betray a treaty that has already been betrayed.
@FreeAmericaFromIsrael
@FreeAmericaFromIsrael 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we are not allowed to discuss WW2's biggest lie in the "free world".
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
But we can discuss the biggest lie of Ukrainian Nationalists, which is the Hypothesis that the so-called Holodomor was Genocide against Ukrainians, which is of course wrong because it was just a famine caused by an interaction of forced Collectivization and ideologically motivated Turbo-Industrialization in cominbation with floods and droughts.
@konyvnyelv.
@konyvnyelv. 8 ай бұрын
Which lie?
@FreeAmericaFromIsrael
@FreeAmericaFromIsrael 8 ай бұрын
The "Holo" one.@@konyvnyelv.
@notsee494
@notsee494 8 ай бұрын
@@konyvnyelv. He doesnt know,🤣 what he know is that he is edgy when he repeats things like that. Just like liberals saying 'orange man bad", when you ask them why is he bad, they be like:😐😐😐
@Lawrance_of_Albania
@Lawrance_of_Albania 8 ай бұрын
This is just bunch of pro nazi arguments, germany invaded ussr beacouse of oil and living space AND beacouse they are ideological enemies. I mean the biggest idiot knows, just read mein kampf, and you will know that Hitler dreamed about invading Russia
@jarl8815
@jarl8815 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your video. However I do think that lebensraum at least played a part in his long-term thinking, given what we know from mein kampf and zweite buch. At the same time I understand that it is hard to prove this given his understandable unwillingness to express himself in that manner later on, as well as the fact that he himself said that he regretted things from his writings.
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 Жыл бұрын
I agree as well. Also not mentioned that germany after occupying so much land was critically low on oil. The soviets had tons of oil and the germans needed it to win the war. TIK did a great video on this if you just search TIK Germany Oil
@jarl8815
@jarl8815 Жыл бұрын
@@lastword8783 Yeah, not a fan of TIKs political videos but he is right on that.
@deadgavin4218
@deadgavin4218 11 ай бұрын
lebensraum was always in the context of a thousand year empire, referencing of course the hre, germans expanded past the oder to prussia, to moravia, to austria, to the seven cities in transvania, to lemberg, to the overlordship of the baltics(eventually under russians, the czar being part german even). its not as if this expansion was ever a goal of the hre, and it was many times directly invited as in prussia by poland and translvania by hungary, if germans were really superior this would no doubt continue with or without war. theres also the need for resources, germamy needed oil(as with japan) and access to grain and to the sea, obviously germany can get what it needs from others during peace but its always something looming, so it was a long term strategic goal to acquire these things somehow it didnt need to be war, but given history and given the explicit expansionist intent of the soviet union, war in the coming decades was expected, and germany certainly hoped to gain these long term needs from whatever that war would be
@tomigun5180
@tomigun5180 11 ай бұрын
@user-wj6dt5bq3w They did it in Czechia. No one's complaining. Same in Poland. Now take a look at the rest of the Slavic countries... One of the main objective of the UK, then the US for many decades was (and is) to hinder the meeting of European (mostly German) technology, and the Asian (Russian) resources. Because it would mean the end of the (((American))) Empire, and American-like prosperity for the people of the aforementioned continents. Hence the war in Ukraine today. The US spent 5 billion dollars to destabilize Ukraine, and 3 more to support its proxy war against Russia.
@calvinmondrago7397
@calvinmondrago7397 11 ай бұрын
"Lebensraum" was a policy that long preceded the NatSoc government. It was a widely supported rubric of conservative policy and actually meant the expansion into Turkish controlled Central Asia and the Black Sea region, prompted by the collapse of Ottoman power. Hitler was simply reading from the nationalist script. Germany's assault mostly drove North anyway.
@Lafoofi
@Lafoofi 8 күн бұрын
Lebensraum was real. The main reason alternative history doesn't work with Germany and the Soviet Union as allies is literally because Hitler hated the Slavs and Communists and wished to expand in the East. It was always the main goal of the regime. Stalin knew this because he had read Mein Kampf, and read Hitler's explicit statements and the broader context of Nazi ideology. In Mein Kampf, Hitler outlined his belief in the need for lebensraum for the German people, which he intended to achieve by conquering Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. Hitler also expressed strong hostility towards Communism and identified the Soviet Union as a key target of Nazi expansionism. Stalin, despite being aware of the general threat, was caught off guard by Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941. He ignored numerous warnings from intelligence sources and allies, possibly due to a combination of overconfidence in the Nazi-Soviet Pact and skepticism of Germany's readiness to attack. It is really disgusting to claim that Hitler never wanted to invade the Soviet Union and cause horror amongst Soviet citizens.
@Mr196710
@Mr196710 5 күн бұрын
Who funded Communism in the Soviet Union, who took the money and purchased troops and who was behind it all and for what reasons? Maybe studying Jacob Schiff, Trotsky, International Jewry, what Russia did during our Civil War in the U.S., Solzhenitsyn, Churchill when he was a young man and what he wrote about Internation Jewry is a good start for you. That should keep you busy for 1-2 years.
@Lafoofi
@Lafoofi 5 күн бұрын
@@Mr196710 What point are you trying to make?
@Mr196710
@Mr196710 5 күн бұрын
@ History is meant to be dug up. You shouldn't trust just any professor or book written by the victors. It takes decades of unearthing if one is SERIOUS about understanding the past.
@pushista9322
@pushista9322 Күн бұрын
​@@Mr196710 Yes, you need to grade your sources by their level of accuracy and quality. It will save you many years of studying all the pro-German propaganda that was ever made
@Mr196710
@Mr196710 Күн бұрын
@@pushista9322 The problem is everything I learned in academia was quotes from quotes by mainstream sources. When you peel back the layers you see that WW2 was about destroying a nation that had succeeded by working around the international machinations of money. Naturally I will be called antisemitic by those who don't even know who semites are.
@jankubicek9109
@jankubicek9109 4 ай бұрын
I do not usually agree with your points(hard to considering fact I am Czech), but you are partly right there. It's a fact that the Soviets were preparing for an invasion of Europe. I read many books about it because my mind was bothered with questions like "How the hell they captured so many soldiers despite the Soviets having a shitload of equipment". According to Stalin´s original ideas, he wanted to wait until France, Britain, Germany, and others went to war with each other and were exhausted from it. Then, he would use this weakness and the chaos surrounding it to grab as much as possible. Lebensraum wasn't the main reason but a sweet bonus, everybody knew war with USSR was inevitable. Many reasons he did it: 1) Oil 2) Despised communism 3) Preventive strike 4) Lebensraum 5) Wheat from Ukraine to feed an embargoed population Another important thing is that Stalin thought war in Europe will be quite longer and he will have more time to prepare his armies for it and that is one of the reasons his army sucked at the beginning. Its sad that its either nazi apology like "he didn't want Lebensraum" which is a lie or history written by victors with "smoothed edges". The world is not black and white only. Do not glorify atrocities nazis committed. Its easier to say it for you from England than from someone whose family members were forcibly conscripted to do hard labor in German factories.
@ram-is-herexd7930
@ram-is-herexd7930 4 ай бұрын
based af
@Kaiserboo1871
@Kaiserboo1871 4 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said. There were a multitude of reasons why Hitler wanted to invade the Soviet Union. Living Space was just one of many reasons.
@ThugHunterfromIsrael
@ThugHunterfromIsrael Ай бұрын
the value of zoomer historian is not taking what he says at face value, as it is clearly natsoc propaganda, but rather combining what he says and cites with contemporary historical teachings to figure out the actual truth. it begins to muddy the "black and white" morality of world war 2 and you start to see things in realpolitik and reason d'etre rather than good and evil.
@Avenus112
@Avenus112 Ай бұрын
​@@ThugHunterfromIsrael youbare lying. None of ehat he publishes in propaganda, it's about dispelling propaganda.
@DSPHistoricalSociety
@DSPHistoricalSociety Ай бұрын
Plenty of Europeans never came home from the Soviet Union work camps- never ever
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 10 ай бұрын
There is a book “The Icebreaker” written by Victor Suvorov, a Russian Spy who defected to the UK sometime in the 70’s I believe. It describes everything mentioned in the video from the Russian perspective. Operation Icebreaker, a top secret Soviet operation where Germany was to serve as an Icebreaker into Europe while the 20000 tanks, hundreds divisions of paratroop air gliders (yes all offensive, as paratrooper are never used in defensive warfare) and airports filled with aircraft would then be used to completely steamroll Europe and fulfill Lenin’s promise to spread Communism through the entirety of Europe and later the world. Had this actually happened, there would have been no D Day, no Allied offensive freeing Europe. The Russian Army would have faced nearly zero resistance from a war torn Europe. This is also why on the first day of Barbarossa almost the entirety of the Russian Air Force and tank cores were obliterated - they were all in parking lots on the border getting ready to invade. Had they been stationed defensively inland, dug in in forests, with aviation stationed deep inside Russia a surprise attack by German air forces on the first day would have been not only impossible but also completely ineffective.
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
Suvorov is wrong on the motivation and aim of the Soviet Attacking plan, which was infact to struck first to prevent a supposed German Aggression and not to occupying European countries for the purpose of installing there Communist Client Regimes. If Suvorov would be really right, then the USSR had make more efforts to support Communists during the Civil Wars in China (the Chinese Communists won mainly alone without any foreign support) and in Spain and later in Greece. Guido Giacomo Preparata is right with his point of view that UK and US enabled the rise to power of both Nazis and Communists to prevent a German-Russian Alliance.
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 9 ай бұрын
@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 comparing apples to oranges here, and besides USSR did support the communists in Spain, to a great extent...
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
@@neilaleksandrov2655 No my comparison is maybe only not edaquate because Nazi Germany did not want to attack USSR only because of preventing a Soviet Invasion, but also to conquere and colonize the European part of USSR, while the USSR wanted only to prevent a German Invasion, but was not interesting in installing a Communist Regime there to transform Germany into a Vassal state. Stalin was a National Communist who was interested in making the USSR self-sufficient primary and not into an International Proletarian Revolution like Trotsky or Che Guevara. In the Spanish Civil war USSR primary liquidated Non-Stalinist Communists and Anarchists instead of fighting Francos troups.
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 9 ай бұрын
@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 So you're saying it wasn't Russian tank battalions who defeated Franco forces in their advance on Madrid in October, November of 1936? and as far as addressing Stalin's motivations, that is only your opinion my friend. Unless of course you claim some all knowing superpower, I would leave it to others to learn the facts and make up their own mind...
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
@@neilaleksandrov2655 It is a proven fact that Stalins priority was creating a Socialist political and economical system in the USSR and not the International Proletarian Revolution. By the way the tanks you are talking about were Soviet ones.
@frauleinhohenzollern
@frauleinhohenzollern Жыл бұрын
God bless you. Next talk about the lack of blue residue on the walls of..... Nvm
@leewilliams6070
@leewilliams6070 11 ай бұрын
A German got put in jail for talking about that
@divideby4billion
@divideby4billion 10 ай бұрын
Heh heh
@dudebro91-fn7rz
@dudebro91-fn7rz 10 ай бұрын
So if the holocaust didn't happen, should it have?
@savezeldaa1965
@savezeldaa1965 10 ай бұрын
The validity of the "gas chamber" narrative I suppose. Blue residue would be in reference to that, and Nvm is internet English slang for "nevermind". Cheers from America@Drazuga
@joseph9922
@joseph9922 10 ай бұрын
Nazi
@TheWaller
@TheWaller Жыл бұрын
Its always extra interesting when you cover a topic i dont really know much about. Good work!
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
Thanks very very much
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 Жыл бұрын
@@ZoomerHistorian Nazi Apologist: Hitler never wanted to conquer the world!! Here's the exact quotes from Mein Kampf that says otherwise, feel free to debunk it if you think that this quotes is not about Hitler wanting to conquer the world "Until finally the best portion of mankind (the Aryan Race) will possess the earth and will be free to work in every domain all over the world and even reach spheres that lie outside the earth" (Page 348-349) "A race destined to become master of all the other peoples and which will have at its disposal the means and resources of the whole world" (Page 349)
@johnlong1538
@johnlong1538 Жыл бұрын
......it's the ones who THINK they know a lot who need to watch.....
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 11 ай бұрын
I like that too, except then I wonder if any of the comments could be made up@TheWaller.
@clyde745
@clyde745 10 ай бұрын
This nazi lover needs your ignorance
@JimLaifstail
@JimLaifstail Жыл бұрын
Very well explained and narrated. I am also convinced that Hitlers reasoning for planning the Soviet campaign in 1940/41 came from purely military strategic and war economic considerations.
@Imperium83
@Imperium83 Жыл бұрын
He was also aware of some form of stomach cancer at that point too, further pushing plans faster as he knew it would take years of political work setting up satellite states and logistics in the captured east.
@mylesmulenga-uz6gd
@mylesmulenga-uz6gd 11 ай бұрын
Regardless of what Hitler's reasons for going east may be, invading the Soviet Union when he was locked down in conflict with France and Britain was a terrible miscalculation which cost him everything. He stirred up a hornet's nest when he was ill prepared to do so. That is paranoia and not being decisive against the British troops because he liked the Brits is also another terrible decision.
@JimLaifstail
@JimLaifstail 11 ай бұрын
@@mylesmulenga-uz6gd I agree. He should have focused on knocking Britain out of the war by for example capturing Malta and Gibraltar and by possible convincing Turkey to join the war.
@ВукВуксановић
@ВукВуксановић 11 ай бұрын
It was economic, he needed resources of the soviet union to conduct his autarky, but he also was very much willing to genocide slavic population
@bovineknievel410
@bovineknievel410 11 ай бұрын
@@mylesmulenga-uz6gd The Soviets were preparing to attack the Germans. Hitler attacked them before they had a chance to go on the offensive. The Germans strength was as an offensive style army early in the war and they did not want to wait for an attack and let the Soviets control the time and the place.
@gennarosavastano9424
@gennarosavastano9424 Жыл бұрын
As a anecdote, theres old saying in my country amongst old people. "10 Germans was better then one Russian" in context of war, occupation and "liberation "
@gratefulguy4130
@gratefulguy4130 Жыл бұрын
Wise old timers
@LusoPatriot77
@LusoPatriot77 Жыл бұрын
A country of fascists, I see
@Saulgud23
@Saulgud23 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it was better, but they never found out the long term German alternative to the Soviet occupation.
@tiagomonteiro130
@tiagomonteiro130 Жыл бұрын
​@@Saulgud23TF are you talking about German Soldiers were so nice to the populations that they didn't force the populations to give them food, Grandma told that the Germans would always buy with money and never steal, Woman also feel in love with Soldiers and Children were playing with things like leather wallets the Soldiers have given them.
@karolb8924
@karolb8924 Жыл бұрын
​@@Darius0109Russians for co trast rapes and stole everything they could. Nothing changed in that manner by the way.
@gaulicwarlord
@gaulicwarlord 4 ай бұрын
“We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it." ~General Zhukov
@jarrod5854
@jarrod5854 4 ай бұрын
*Proceeds to enslave it for the next 50 years
@1justin511
@1justin511 4 ай бұрын
time takes its crazy toll
@davidvenegas6401
@davidvenegas6401 4 ай бұрын
​@@jarrod5854 better than Germany. They were not equivalent and The USSR was not the worse one. Best example ironically comes from prominent Russia hater Anne Applebaum. She pointed out that the survival ratio was approximately inverted for Russian and German camps. Russia the gulag death rate was 25%, German camps it was more like 80%. Russia maybe enslaved you for a bit. Germany enslaved you until death.
@radkamerad
@radkamerad 4 ай бұрын
True
@radkamerad
@radkamerad 4 ай бұрын
​@@davidvenegas6401 Better than Neoliberalism*
@sinistersorcererlol
@sinistersorcererlol Жыл бұрын
Sir, when I get a job, I will become a member of this channel. You may be the last hope of an alternate viewpoint of history, as well as a better society in the modern day. We love you!
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
One of the nicest comments I’ve ever received, very kind of you! Thank you!
@sinistersorcererlol
@sinistersorcererlol Жыл бұрын
@@ZoomerHistorian ❤
@qwertyasdfgh1014
@qwertyasdfgh1014 11 ай бұрын
@@ZoomerHistorian Now the Soviets organized a coup in Belgrade, surely they shot the children in Kragujevac and enabled the Croats to commit the most sickening crimes against the Serbs (that is, the SERBs and not the "Yugoslavs")... It is interesting that there is no mention of Britain and Germany..
@malchik09
@malchik09 10 ай бұрын
The most despicable fact is that if Germany actually conquered that vast land, there would be no Cold War, there would be no American hegemony over Europe, no Bolvshevik hegemony over Europe, and Europe would have selfishly found a way it preserve its livelihood. Its disgraceful.
@eddiemilne4989
@eddiemilne4989 10 ай бұрын
And we in the UK wouldn't be allowed to listen to Jazz,with pop and rock strangled at birth and no chance of a curry or nipping out to get ciggies or your tyre fixed on Christmas Day..And Premiership football wouldn't be up to much with only Aryans allowed ro play..And with Hitler's openly declared preference for Islam over Christianity,they would allow that barbaric creed to run rampant over any part of the World they weren't particularly interested in..But if you love bratwurst,wearing lederhosen and listening to Wagner 24/7,I guess it would be pretty cool !
@Lucas_07-PL
@Lucas_07-PL 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, instead there wpuld be tens of milions of murdered and enslaved people there.
@mar3869
@mar3869 10 ай бұрын
“Selfishly” wanting to keep your people safe and healthy is hardly selfish.
@Real46
@Real46 10 ай бұрын
@@mar3869 He is being sarcastic.
@ricoarmstrong7440
@ricoarmstrong7440 10 ай бұрын
To be fair most of Europe would have been largely controlled by Germany. If that would have been better is up to discussion.
@TylerThompson-f4j
@TylerThompson-f4j 2 ай бұрын
Hitler stated many times in detail , back in the 20s, while both countries were neutral, via 25 point program, mein Kampf , Hitler's second book as well as "Hitler's table talk" a collection of private conversations recorded by Borman himself what he truly felt about the Slavic peoples.
@justanotherguyful
@justanotherguyful 2 ай бұрын
I read his book, he mostly just talks about the ethnic tensions and such things, he only briefly mentions feelings of superiority over the Sloveni peoples like twice. And these feelings could easily be explained away by the ethnic tensions which took a much bigger focus in the book. Yet in general even that wasnt talked about that much, the topic of the Sloveni people and their relation to the Germans is barely touched upon in the book. I am Eastern European myself btw. Lets be honest here.
@basedpepe6380
@basedpepe6380 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@justanotherguyfulYeah, he was mostly angry about the slavization of Austria, if he truly hated all the slavs then wtf did so many of them joined the SS? Now the poles were asking for war, since they didn't want to give back the lands that were inhabited by ethnic germans. Poland should have joined the Germans to destroy the communists together, unfortunately they preferred to stay stuck in the past instead of moving forward and what happened happened.
@GigaNietzsche
@GigaNietzsche Ай бұрын
@@basedpepe6380Poland prior to Pisuldski's death had great relations with the Germans. Shame they got caught up in rather petty behavior when dealing with the Germans after that
@drtyhay
@drtyhay 10 ай бұрын
As Patton said after the war, we joined the wrong side
@tritium1998
@tritium1998 9 ай бұрын
And he finally joined the side that lost against all those allies?
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
@@tritium1998 Bot detected.
@Mrtrollgood
@Mrtrollgood 7 ай бұрын
Huh? Patton died in 1944, homie....do you mean the quote he made shortly before "mysteriously" dying in a "car accident"?
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 7 ай бұрын
@@BigJohnson-g3jlook who’s talking
@__-kn3rh
@__-kn3rh 6 ай бұрын
@@Mrtrollgoodhe died December 21, 1945, making his comment plausible
@ramieskola7845
@ramieskola7845 11 ай бұрын
@4:54 There were about 150 mechanized divisions from the Baltics to the Black Sea preparing for the conquest of Europe.
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 10 ай бұрын
Nonsense. Half-manned and equipped, they couldn't even defend USSR.
@Th3Curator42
@Th3Curator42 10 ай бұрын
@@bdleo300 And that's how Germany won the war... wait..
@maxn.7234
@maxn.7234 10 ай бұрын
​@@bdleo300They couldn't defend because they were in an offensive posture. That's why they got encircled. It's military tactics 101.
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 9 ай бұрын
@@bdleo300 If they were only planning to defend the USSR they wouldn't have been advanced as far as Bialystok. This salient left them massively exposed to an attack
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
@@bdleo300 You are mentally handicapped.
@sambaker8271
@sambaker8271 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you can make a video About the myth of the nazi breeding factories I know you covered it in one of your videos about the SS but it feels like it needs a spacific video considering how popular that one is.
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
Sure
@upsbabygirl18
@upsbabygirl18 11 ай бұрын
Yes more information on the lebensborn project. Also please make a video debunking all if the dr. Mengele “evil experiments”. I just looked into the twin one and apparently it was a crazy lie by a “survivor” named Miklos Nyiszli
@PcGamerify
@PcGamerify 11 ай бұрын
Lebensborn program
@npcarnivore
@npcarnivore 10 ай бұрын
@@ZoomerHistorianjust found your channel. Not sure if you covered the whole “concentration camps” , but would be a good subject if not already done.
@rolloxra670
@rolloxra670 10 ай бұрын
I remember someone once told me that Hitler wanted Norway and Denmark specifically to breed aryans lol
@danielbrown6112
@danielbrown6112 11 ай бұрын
4:00 - about time someone said this. Your other video I watched mentioned the situation as well. Fascism and aligned groups were a reaction to the red terror of both the anarchist/communist groups active within all major western cities, and a direct defensive ideology to horrors reported back from within the Soviet Union. This is objectively a fact to anyone looking 2nd level to the era. Practically speaking, if our ‘elites’ or ‘intellectuals’ today want to avoid the public trending towards right wing reactionary political movements; the ‘elites ‘and ‘intellectuals’ need to stop threatening societal security, economics, and family traditions..... yet these disruptive ‘progressive’ billionaire backed groups still press knowing this. It appears the ends justify the means to these megalomaniacs, and one may argue that one of their goals is to indeed have a more extreme society on both ends, not just the left end. Kodos to you, my brother for having such wisdom in your videos seeking the truth, it is refreshing to watch videos clearly from someone in their 20’s, dare I say on the early end of that age range having such an in-depth perspective. Much respect.
@alihenderson5910
@alihenderson5910 10 ай бұрын
They have created an extreme right wing threat, in the minds of the population. That's all they need.
@ParzivalPlaysAtari
@ParzivalPlaysAtari 10 ай бұрын
Yes, their goal is most definitely to have a more extreme society on both ends. This is how they get us to slaughter each other. First, the sides must be chosen, and made to hate one another. The flames must be fanned until they turn into an inferno. Wars don't spontaneously "break out"; they arren't an organic outbreak such as the measels or mumps. WARS ARE FOMENTED. Divide and conquer. First, culturally. Then mitiltarily. Finally, move on to the next host, and repeat.
@jamesowen4938
@jamesowen4938 Ай бұрын
In 1975, when I was seven, my dad gave me his book, Stuka Pilot, to read. In it, Hans Rudel described the extensive Soviet preparations for the offensive, that were overrun. He himself attacked train loads of armor heading west. The rail lines had heavy traffic on them. Train after train, heading west. Rudel also mentioned the maps and other documents that were captured from various Soviet forward headquarters. When I read it, I knew it was true, because it made sense to me, and the Allied narrative, taught at school, and in countless films and television programs, didn't.
@RinaRavyn
@RinaRavyn 5 ай бұрын
Its not a myth. He literally wrote it down.
@burkinafaso64
@burkinafaso64 5 ай бұрын
But Himmler said Soviet Russia was preparing an attack 😂😂😂
@NewJack-wr4bq
@NewJack-wr4bq 5 ай бұрын
Do you believe everything you did 25 years ago…(while in prison no less). You probably weren’t even alive. Considering how lied to we are about everything, and the fact that the Soviets had invaded 3 others countries months before.
@RinaRavyn
@RinaRavyn 5 ай бұрын
@@NewJack-wr4bq or we could stop ignoring whatever inconveniences our world view
@cagneybillingsley2165
@cagneybillingsley2165 5 ай бұрын
yes in a book he himself dismissed as an elaborate fedpost
@cagneybillingsley2165
@cagneybillingsley2165 5 ай бұрын
@@RinaRavyn like you're doing right now?
@alflat885
@alflat885 11 ай бұрын
Woooooow.... THANK YOU!!!! That's undoubtedly, and by a thousand mile, the BEST channel on WW2 and all it's "unknown" historical facts, including the crucial 1919-1933 period... Beautifully researched, narrated, presented and all with consideration so people can make up their own mind on what they think they know..... Subscribed and sharing!
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@alflat885
@alflat885 11 ай бұрын
​​@@ZoomerHistorianyou are a Legend Sir!!! Thank you for bringing the truth into the light (Finally) in such an impartial manner 🙏
@JosephSuber31st
@JosephSuber31st 11 ай бұрын
*Icebreaker* by Victor Suvarov, former KGB, published circa 1988, provides much corroboration.
@paulpaustovanu8816
@paulpaustovanu8816 11 ай бұрын
Former GRU, the military intelligence service
@Nevazno463
@Nevazno463 4 ай бұрын
Это был не совсем психически здоровый человек😂😂😂😅😅
@davidbyers7246
@davidbyers7246 Жыл бұрын
What a well presented history video! Good to see someone looking into an event from this particular time period in a balanced and rational manner. Hope the channel does not get taken down.
@thejoester1011
@thejoester1011 4 ай бұрын
Just because it wasn't 100% about Option A, doesn't mean it was 100% about Option B. Almost like it was a combination of both. Calling Lebensraum a "myth" is entirely a-historical. Hundreds of thousands of German troops were left in Latvia and Norway during the Battle of Berlin because AH refused to allow withdrawal as the land would be needed "after the war".
@ObamaGaming49
@ObamaGaming49 4 ай бұрын
Fr, everyone here is so polarized, like bruh, dont they realise that A, The nazis were fucking xenophobic nationalists, AND B, the soviets were imperialistic expansionists.
@lewisbean4250
@lewisbean4250 4 ай бұрын
@@ObamaGaming49well yeah, in Mein Kampf itself, Hitler talks about expansion eastward for the German race, and the idea of lebensraum predates Hitler by decades. As for the soviets, well they talked a big game about freeing people, yet happily annexed land from other countries while given the chance.
@anotherguyonthepc5
@anotherguyonthepc5 4 ай бұрын
​@@ObamaGaming49 as if being nationalistic is bad, and xenophobic is a respectable word to use. Pathetic
@ObamaGaming49
@ObamaGaming49 4 ай бұрын
​@@anotherguyonthepc5 Being nationalistic and being a nationalist is not the same thing, the US is patriotic (basically nationalistic), but not to the point where Americans are nationalists. The nazis, the Italians, and the Japanese were extreme nationalists back in ww2, and for the record, so were many countries during ww1, they believed that their country was superior, which at its extremes, is the basis for nazism (the belief that their race is superior), this should not be news to you, a person who is somehow trying to downplay nazi xenophobia (or at least that's what I understood, your response was not very clear). In no way did I say xenophobics and nationalists were the same thing, they are just terms I used to accurately describe the nazis, what don't you get about that?
@ItalianFalangist88
@ItalianFalangist88 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m sure the Courland Pocket was left for nationalistic reasons rather than being completely besieged by the Soviets. Brilliant redditor moment
@jaydubbyuh2292
@jaydubbyuh2292 11 ай бұрын
Finally the truth has been told and not been taken down immediately. Thank you young man many thanks
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 10 ай бұрын
There is absolutely NO truth in this 100% revisionist bs, or any trace or elementary logic.... stale Reaganist propaganda endlessly repeated by cIuIess troIIs.
@InglebertHumptyDump
@InglebertHumptyDump 29 күн бұрын
because we all know not to mention the group of people responsible for the twin evils of marxism and usury.
@MichaelB1488
@MichaelB1488 22 күн бұрын
Hitler did want to be allies with Britain against the Soviets, but Hitler was forced into being allied with the Soviets against the British. However, Germany discovered that the Soviets were planning on a war against Germany and therefore had to attack first or be overrun.
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF 4 ай бұрын
Hitler spoke about Lebensraum explicitely in Mein Kampf and several later speeches, you're making stuff up
@Emanuel-t5e
@Emanuel-t5e 4 ай бұрын
That is just a different discussion altogether.
@mindoffisch
@mindoffisch 4 ай бұрын
@@Emanuel-t5eno it is not? one of zoomer’s claims is that hitler didn’t want lebensraum
@visuallyez
@visuallyez 4 ай бұрын
where
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF 4 ай бұрын
@@visuallyez Mein Kampf, Volume 1, chapter 11 "Nation and race"
@ObamaGaming49
@ObamaGaming49 4 ай бұрын
@@visuallyez in the book, Mein Kampf, want page numbers?
@kazmahamza3115
@kazmahamza3115 10 ай бұрын
Really an eye opening video.
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@osamaal-jundi2186
@osamaal-jundi2186 10 ай бұрын
​@@ZoomerHistorian A dumb video
@epiccrusadr8583
@epiccrusadr8583 9 ай бұрын
@@osamaal-jundi2186 a coping comment
@d.k8746
@d.k8746 8 ай бұрын
jundi ignoramus nonsense
@stephenclements6158
@stephenclements6158 10 ай бұрын
This channel does what none of the sources I grew up listening to ever did, give both sides of the story.
@polskabalaclava
@polskabalaclava 6 ай бұрын
No, this is just revisionism
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 6 ай бұрын
@@stephenclements6158 are you insane?😂😂 He talked purely from the national socialist view
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 6 ай бұрын
No. It talks only from one side of the story. I think you might need to watch the video.
@wolfshedler5898
@wolfshedler5898 10 ай бұрын
Victor write history and justify any of their wrongdoings. Before the war Hitler speeches to his European neighbors was , that he desired to be at peace with all his neighbors . I have listen to this speech a dozen times. Churchill asked Poland to continue provoking Germany into an invasion . !0,000 german civilians were killed by polish border skirmishes before hitler marched into poland . Read the book by pat bucannon THE UNECESSARY WAR
@Lalalauren1117
@Lalalauren1117 10 ай бұрын
100%
@williamboquist4090
@williamboquist4090 10 ай бұрын
The narrative presented in this video to describe the actions of the USSR during the time leading up to the start of the war on the Eastern Front closely tracks the evidence presented in a book entitled "The Chief Culprit", written by a former Soviet military intelligence analyst who gained access to archived Soviet documents.
@Doyourbest4245
@Doyourbest4245 10 ай бұрын
Idk, man. He talked about it in my struggle: a requirement to acquire more territory in order to alleviate the inevitable issues that would come with Germany’s rapidly increasing birthrate at the time.
@czoborarpi
@czoborarpi Ай бұрын
Yeah but look at it this way: you write a book about your beliefs in prison when you dont know what will happen. After 20 years is it hard to assume that you changed your mind? Especially because he never mentioned Lebensraum in his speeches. I am not saying that he definitely changed his views on the matter but there is a chance he did.
@thebanditman5663
@thebanditman5663 4 ай бұрын
ASKING if the Soviets wanted to bum-rush the West and take Germany is pointless because they DID IT anyway in direct violation of an agreement they made with England and America when moving into Berlin. In the last days of the war, there was the plan to move the western front and eastern front into Berlin at the same time, and the Soviets pushed ahead and surrounded the city without the US or UK. And later in the talks about how to divvy up the occupied Germany, the Soviets leveraged everything they had, and East Berlin and West Berlin became a thing. They occupied the entirety of East Germany, controlling a disproportionate amount of territory, while the UK, the US, and France had to divide West Germany up among themselves. If you look at how the Soviets operated, they were the most aggressive expansionist dictatorship you'd ever seen, with the Soviet/communist Sphere of influence occupying the eastern block of Europe, basically all of mainland Asia, much of the Middle East, several entire regions of Africa, and a swath of South America, and everywhere the ideology went they killed as many people the nazis did if not more, but because the killings were political it's for some reason less bad.
@Nevazno463
@Nevazno463 4 ай бұрын
А минусы будут?
@horatiuscocles8052
@horatiuscocles8052 4 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't they tho? Germany just invaded and destroyed everything in their path until the gates of Moscow very nearly eliminating the USSR. Why wouldn't they want to take Berlin? If in the extremely unlikely scenario that Hitler managed to destroy Washington DC and take New York wouldn't the Americans want the same?
@ikarder
@ikarder 4 ай бұрын
"Oh no, they were so agressive, US only had all of Western Europe and Africa, while stupid soviets had all of Eastern Europe and part of Asia, that's totally different!"
@JinTeutonic
@JinTeutonic 4 ай бұрын
@@ikarder f them both
@crusaderACR
@crusaderACR 3 ай бұрын
​@@ikarder It is different because Communism is inherently evil. Gravely evil. Especially if you go all into what Marx wrote, that is, mass murder and atrocities for the sake of the utopia.
@ryancampbell1252
@ryancampbell1252 Жыл бұрын
One of the first to expose the Soviet perspective on this which also backs up the German reason was Victor Suvorov with his book Icebreaker. There are 2 much more recent books on this matter one which set out to prove Suvorov wrong, only to back Suvorov up, meaning he was right.
@jordantroy8000
@jordantroy8000 Жыл бұрын
what books are those fren?
@ryancampbell1252
@ryancampbell1252 Жыл бұрын
@@jordantroy8000 Stalins War by Sean McMeekin, and Stalin's War of Extermination by Joachim Hoffmann.
@jordantroy8000
@jordantroy8000 Жыл бұрын
@@ryancampbell1252 thanks goy!
@wewillovercome5168
@wewillovercome5168 Жыл бұрын
​@@ryancampbell1252I'm currently reading the latter.
@MedicMain9
@MedicMain9 Жыл бұрын
@@wewillovercome5168 Mind sharing your opinion on that book?
@vaingloriant
@vaingloriant 10 ай бұрын
Watching one video of yours left me with a lot of questions. Such as "What about their desire for lebensraum?" Little did I know, this was yet another myth to be deconstructed. Keep doing what you're doing, it matters.
@danflashes6053
@danflashes6053 10 ай бұрын
Icebreaker, if you can find a copy, is a fantastic book on this topic. Another more modern take is Stalin’s War.
@Larrypint
@Larrypint 2 ай бұрын
Bolschewist NKWD killed over 40 000 Germans in 1937-1939 (order 0049) , Hitler knew that the German - Sowjets Pakt was just for a short term period.
@ParzivalPlaysAtari
@ParzivalPlaysAtari 10 ай бұрын
It would be nice to hear an anlysis of the role that the supra-national (i.e. 3-letter) people played in instigating this war.
@BroadHobbyProjects
@BroadHobbyProjects 10 ай бұрын
Elves are everywhere. It's like Christmas every day of the year.
@MacNuada
@MacNuada 7 ай бұрын
A modern brit would never challenge the jews
@InglebertHumptyDump
@InglebertHumptyDump 29 күн бұрын
this is not possible on KZbin, facebook, or twitter or in many countries, without risk of arrest.
@fireblademapping131
@fireblademapping131 4 ай бұрын
The Nazis wanted Lebensraum. Their descendants want Lesbiansraum.
@TrisMacLife
@TrisMacLife 4 ай бұрын
Yeah this guy is just a pathetic nazi
@ChechenSoviet
@ChechenSoviet 4 ай бұрын
Underrated comment fr fr
@horatiuscocles8052
@horatiuscocles8052 4 ай бұрын
@@TrisMacLife I don't even mind about Nazis to each their own but he is incredibly dishonest and doesn't own his own ideology lmao. If you're gonna larp then do it properly.
@mindoffisch
@mindoffisch 4 ай бұрын
the amount of mental retardation in this comment section is insane
@simpleman6352
@simpleman6352 4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@georgecoventry8441
@georgecoventry8441 4 ай бұрын
It sounds quite plausible (and it makes sense from a great power point of view) that the Soviets were planning an attack on the Reich and western Europe, and that the Germans knew it, and thus pre-empted the Soviet attack with an attack of their own. Great powers do this sort of thing. They move when an opportunity for gain *presents* itself...and they react defensively when they see a looming threat from another great power. From the Soviet point of view....the entire West had detested them from the start and was determined to crush them out of existence as soon as the First World War ended. Churchill was among their most vehement foes, and all the Allied nations fielded armies in Russia after WWI to help fight the Bolsheviks...but the Bolsheviks won in the end. After that, the Soviet state was regarded as an absolute pariah by the rest of Europe. So, why would Stalin *not* consider "the West" to be his mortal enemy? Stalin would have been delighted to see a war break out between Hitler's Germany and the British-French Alliance, since this would divide his great power enemies against *each other* and thus strengthen Soviet Russia's strategic position. What could be better from the Russian point of view at that time? France then fell to the Germans. More good news for the Russians, because one of their major great power enemies was removed from the strategic chessboard. Then the British and Germans were locked in a titanic struggle which appeared to have no foreseeable end....more good news for the Russians! What Hitler was doing also made sense, from Germany's point of view. Number 1, he wanted back German empire lands that had been lost at the end of WWI. This included a large part of Poland. The Russians also wanted back land which THEY had lost due to WWI and the events that immediately followed....and that included a large part of Poland and the Baltic nations, and some other bits of land elsewhere. So, at that point both the Germans and the Russians had essentially the same concerns, a desire to recover lost lands, and a very keen desire to eliminate the new nation state of Poland *entirely*! So naturally they were able to come to an agreement, make a German-Soviet pact, and divide up Poland, give the Baltic states back to Russia, and so on. They were both recovering former imperial territory. This again IS what great powers do! It doesn't require enormous amounts of "evil" to do that, it's just normal great power behavior, that's all. They play to win the big imperial game, that's all...and they move when they think the time is right. For the Soviets to plan a major offensive into western Europe while Hitler was tied up fighting the British made very good sense from a Soviet point of view, because it was highly likely to succeed. The Germans clearly had a very effective and deadly war machine. One to be feared. Everyone could see that in 1940-41. When would they be most vulnerable? While they were still tied up fighting the British. Would there ever be a better time to fight the Germans than while they were still occupied fighting the UK? No! Because of this, I consider the theory that Russia was planning to attack Germany in probably the summer or fall of '41 quite likely to be correct. It makes sense from a pragmatic point of view. And so they massed huge forces in an offensive posture along their western borders in the spring of 1941. But the Germans could see those preparations. They knew what was coming. And their only viable options were to: 1. Set up the strongest possible defenses on their eastern borders with Russia. or.... 2. Attack the Russians first! The 2nd option was more likely to give them the initiative and achieve a decisive victory...and Hitler always tended to think in offensive, not defensive terms. So the Germans went ahead with the most powerful attack they possible could against the Soviet Union....and came quite close to winning their war in the East, because it was simply the best option they had IF the Soviets were planning to attack them anyway. I have said nothing here about who I think was "more evil" a system....the Soviets or the Nazis....because it's irrelevant to the strategic realities that drove them both to act against one another. Both Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany had the strongest reasons to fear *each other* in the 1940's, and both acted in a pragmatic and rational way to do what seemed to make the most sense.......strictly from *their* point of view. That's what great powers do. They fight either when they think they can win.......................or when circumstances give them NO choice, even though the odds of winning may be long ones. And for the Germans, the odds of winning a total war in Russia *were* long ones, as history has shown us. But they probably had no real choice about it. (Nor did the Russians, once the Germans had fired the first shots... The die was cast. They would both suffer incredible losses as a result, which was a tragedy for both nations. It is the ordinary people who suffer what the empires decide. And the soldiers on both sides would absolutely believe that they were "saving the world".)
@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753
@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 4 ай бұрын
You are interpreting too much! The Sowjets knew after the fall of France that the Germans will come for them eventually and decided to strike first. Plus Germany was running low on oil! Russia then and now has no desire for Western Europe, thy feel quite comfy is the East.
@georgecoventry8441
@georgecoventry8441 4 ай бұрын
@@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 - Yes, Germany was desperately short of oil (Ploesti wasn't enough to meet their needs), and the only place they could get it was...in Russia. So yes, it was highly likely that the Germans would eventually invade Russia. And yes, it makes sense that the Russians would decide to strike first. And then it also makes sense that the Germans would detect the Russian preparations and would decide to strike the Russians first. It was just normal survival strategy on the part of both Germany and Russia... I also agree with you that the Russians have no desire *now* to take over western Europe....they are simply reacting defensively to what they see as a threat *from* the West (the West taking over Ukraine, following the coup in 2014, and arming Ukraine to fight Russia). Whether the Soviets had any intention of taking over western Europe in Stalin's time....I'm not sure about that. They did end up taking over about half of Europe simply in the process of defeating Hitler's Third Reich. Whether that was their original intention before the fighting started....I don't know.
@manofmanytrades
@manofmanytrades 10 ай бұрын
We fought the wrong enemy.
@KoosKansloos1908
@KoosKansloos1908 10 ай бұрын
Communism is the real enemy
@fatcontrollerproductions9910
@fatcontrollerproductions9910 9 ай бұрын
No, the Wests aggression is what caused the East to drift further away.
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
Indeed. To my everlasting shame as an American, to know we were so easily duped.
@Disco-Mike
@Disco-Mike 9 ай бұрын
@@BigJohnson-g3j Sadly, my fellow German brothers and sisters wont agree with that one and forever will blame their grandfathers. I am proud of mine.
@ZORGIN
@ZORGIN 9 ай бұрын
@@BigJohnson-g3j Dont speak for americans, traitor
@AlamoOriginal
@AlamoOriginal Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiousity, have you read Bismarck policy of colonization and the historiography of Germany called "Sonderweg"?
@tomigun5180
@tomigun5180 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. Sounds a million times better than the "good guys" Kalergi Plan we see come into fruition.
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598
@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 9 ай бұрын
Germany is today only an US Client State and the vast Majority of Germans are mentally and culturally colonized by US.
@AlamoOriginal
@AlamoOriginal 9 ай бұрын
@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598 is it eh? i dont know if you realize but the largest demographics of the US are actually German-Americans, colonized? the US is colonized by Germany. so i dont know, about you the fact that Germany and US are allies are actually natural
@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272
@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 8 ай бұрын
So its ok when the UK the US and the USSR do it but not Germany?
@MacNuada
@MacNuada 7 ай бұрын
​@@vidkunpurischkewitsch9598Is that why rainbow flags are all over Germany as in America?
@jaapvandenbergh7430
@jaapvandenbergh7430 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such an informative piece. To concur with you, I remember reading in an article in the late 90's that a then former Soviet general had unequivocally stated that it had indeed been Soviet Russia's intention to invade Germany. There is much disinformation about the period. I once read A J P Taylor's book on reasons for Britain making war in Germany. His reasons of why it had not in the least been necessary were very clear and well motivated. As they say in Dutch: "doe zo voort!"
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
What does that mean? (do zo voort)
@ZelZarKi
@ZelZarKi 10 ай бұрын
Why did Germany invade the Soviet Union? Because the Soviet Union was informally at war with Germany and with that massive buildup at the border, was about to make it formal. It was Germany's only realistic move she could have made in the scenario she was in.
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 10 ай бұрын
Neonazi fantasies.
@ricoarmstrong7440
@ricoarmstrong7440 10 ай бұрын
Proxy Wars and indirect influence on other countries... sounds similar to today huh ?
@ricoarmstrong7440
@ricoarmstrong7440 10 ай бұрын
@user-wj6dt5bq3w Anti communism.
@Phobos1483
@Phobos1483 11 ай бұрын
Amazing how much Germany was able to achieve. The second time we may very well expect to make it. Especially after the European descendants know the true story goes, that the NSDAP was on their side all along.
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630
@averagezyzzenjoyer5630 10 ай бұрын
WW2 was the second Time its called 2 for a reason .
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 10 ай бұрын
They will make sure there wont be any second time.. Thats why UN and NATO was created, not because of soviets, but because they don't want there to be a second time.
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 10 ай бұрын
good guys rarely win the wars because the most powerful weapons on this planet are lies and deception.
@djocharablaikan8601
@djocharablaikan8601 10 ай бұрын
​​the general awakening has already begun, 10 years ago, a channel like this wouldnt have almost 100 thousand subs, it would be an obscure channel that would have comments overflowing with hatred, i see everyday as streets are turning into filthy cesspools and degenerate lgbt and multiculti agenda is being pushed on europe. Public opinion, despite massive brainwashing, propaganda and censorship of all media in entire west, for the first time in almost a century, is starting to shift right at a massive pace. The pushback of constitutionalists in the us and rise of the so called "far right" in europe is unstopable at this point. Noone is drinking the koolaid anymore, now that the results of "Cultural Enrichment" are out in the streets for all to see, and globalist tyranical agenda has been massively exposed on global scale after the beer flu virus, house of cards is already shaking. I see great changes ahead brother.... have faith.
@ByZHellas
@ByZHellas 10 ай бұрын
European descendants were not on his side, the continent was starving while the Germans feasted. Greeks alone lost like 10% of their population. Actually learn the history instead of siding with a side because you think it's cool or different.
@marktheprussian
@marktheprussian 2 ай бұрын
This has me thinking: what if they prepared defenses against russia instead of a pre-emptive strike? Would this have changed the future narrative? How would Britain and the USA have reacted to a USSR offensive declaration of war? Then there is the question of the nuclear bombs in this alternate timeline… So many questions yet so little answers
@BartBart22
@BartBart22 4 ай бұрын
Ron Unz and Viktor Suvorov do awesome work bringing together the factual research on this topic.
@captainape6807
@captainape6807 10 ай бұрын
I'm new to this channel but so far I'm very impressed.
@jacobhicks7440
@jacobhicks7440 6 ай бұрын
This argument make sense if you ignore everything before 39, and Himmler himself contradicted what you quoted him saying many times. Short sighted argument
@adriunt6988
@adriunt6988 6 ай бұрын
Also Hitler wrote it in his fucking book that he wanted to expand Germany to the east
@sheep5514
@sheep5514 5 ай бұрын
If its so flawed why will you be thrown in prison for arguements like this. Especially denial of the hcaust
@adriunt6988
@adriunt6988 5 ай бұрын
@@sheep5514 if you really ask that question I don't need an IQ test. If you look at what happened after WW1 you would know why. There was a huge German narrative after WW1 that the jews and democratic politicians backstabbed the German army. That was obviously false but this narrative destabilzed the Weimar republic and helped anti-democratic right-wing forces seize power im 1933. And if you look at what happens in Turkey when you mention the genocide I am pretty happy that these kinds of regulations are in place. The holocaust is very well documented, so no reason to doubt it other than ideological reasons.
@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus
@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus 5 ай бұрын
​@@adriunt6988absolutely 👃🏻response. it's the 👃🏻 who started the WW1 and WW2. There's nothing "obviously false" about the stab in the back narrative. Now go suck Churchill's d
@rebmerf5622
@rebmerf5622 4 ай бұрын
@@sheep5514 Well it's mainly because it's considered hate speech.
@JustDefense
@JustDefense 11 ай бұрын
Barbarossa bears earmarks of an emergency operation, for instance their invasion force includes 100,000 horses. Horses. Did your concept of blitzkrieg include that? See Suvorov’s Icebreaker.
@iansmith5174
@iansmith5174 11 ай бұрын
Yet the German army's reliance on horses didn't stop them from conquering France; the largest military power in Europe, and kicking the British clear off the continent, did it? Need I remind you that in 1941, the Red Army was also heavily reliant on horses and like the Germans would continue to use them until the end of the war.
@jemperdiller
@jemperdiller 11 ай бұрын
lol, imagine thinking it was supposed to be a gamer moment with absolute mechanization and motorization. get educated and stop posting cringe.
@infini_ryu9461
@infini_ryu9461 10 ай бұрын
Horses have two uses: Transport and Food. Why wouldn't there be horses in Barbarossa?
@gloriadeipatre
@gloriadeipatre 10 ай бұрын
The German reliance on horses also demonstrates their lack of adequate Petroleum resources. Many people don't realize the incredible amout of walking that the Werhmacht did on a daily basis. Even in 1941 according to diary accounts, the German gvt was writing about their food deficiencies because of poor harvest and they were developing a caloric rationing plan for the German people.
@jonbutzfiscina1307
@jonbutzfiscina1307 10 ай бұрын
My Great Onkel Willie road horses into Russia to battle. His brother, my Grossvater road motorized equipment into battle. Horses could go into areas that machines could not.
@liammiskell3522
@liammiskell3522 12 күн бұрын
Yes Lebensraum was the main motivation. Not only was it Hitler's initial goal, it's a policy that predates Hitler's membership in the party and has it's roots within the Nazi party's origins in the Austro-Hungarian empire. You cannot understand the Second world war without understanding the Ideological and economic underpinnings of National Socialism along with ethnic rivalries that existed in Europe at the beginning of the 20th century.
@col.barnsby8595
@col.barnsby8595 9 күн бұрын
Yup, great summary. I was on the coping side once too. People need to start reading more to actually have a nuanced view, not merely taking the view that is opposite to the mainstream.
@oatdilemma6395
@oatdilemma6395 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure in Hitler's Table Talks and Mein Kampf he talks extensively about Lebensraum and the need for Aryan colonisation and the removal of Slavs
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 Жыл бұрын
Nazi Apologist: Hitler never wanted to conquer the world!! Here's the exact quotes from Mein Kampf that says otherwise, I hope Nazi apologist would debunk it if they think that this quotes is not about Hitler wanting to conquer the world "Until finally the best portion of mankind (the Aryan Race) will possess the earth and will be free to work in every domain all over the world and even reach spheres that lie outside the earth" (Page 348-349) "A race destined to become master of all the other peoples and which will have at its disposal the means and resources of the whole world" (Page 349)
@fador1337
@fador1337 Жыл бұрын
@@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 How about you post the exact German quotes from the book instead of your biased mistranslations?
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 Жыл бұрын
​@@fador1337who do you think I am?? A German speaker??
@blorb32
@blorb32 Жыл бұрын
@@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 You literally proved his point lol.
@SK0LDR1
@SK0LDR1 Жыл бұрын
@@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004What translation is this lmao? Mannheim? Ford? Murphy? Either give the exact quote in German or use the Dalton edition. Don’t use biased forgeries
@Patrick-ih4oe
@Patrick-ih4oe 10 ай бұрын
So good to see the truth being brought out .
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 6 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-ih4oe i think you meant the lie
@Patrick-ih4oe
@Patrick-ih4oe 6 ай бұрын
@@barsukascool The truth brought out .
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 6 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-ih4oe i think you meant lie.
@Geoffrey6_
@Geoffrey6_ 10 ай бұрын
Man by man, video by video. Thank you, Zoomer Historian.
@linxbang2294
@linxbang2294 4 ай бұрын
Sorry bro have you ever read Mein Kampf? Pretty sure Hitler said somethings about going to the east and not the west.
@Kitchissime
@Kitchissime 10 ай бұрын
Do i get your permission to make French versions of the videos similar to yours in the future? It would be almost French translations.
@datredhat
@datredhat 20 күн бұрын
It was probably a mixture of both, Alfred Rosenberg was fairly influential in the party, and he basically wanted the lebenstram (sorry if that’s spelled incorrectly) idea to happen in the east. Very good video
@seanzibonanzi64
@seanzibonanzi64 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of Nazi Germany's excuse for offensive invasion, they performed ethnic cleansing on the populace for lebensraum all the same. Generalplan Ost was drafted in 1940 and called for the removal of all "undesirables" from conquered territory, by any means. In places like Poland, Belarus and Lithuana, "undesirable" applied to over 75% of the population.
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
See: ‘What were Hitler’s plans in the East?’
@slavenskazajednica7912
@slavenskazajednica7912 Жыл бұрын
​@@ZoomerHistorianYou must be grandkid of some disgusting nazi scum. Your lies are pathetic and evil at the same time.
@digger6843
@digger6843 Жыл бұрын
General plan ost was just a plan didnt mean they'd necessarly act on it, for example the Americans didnt act on the Morgenthau plan
@slavenskazajednica7912
@slavenskazajednica7912 Жыл бұрын
@@digger6843 Yeah because germans are well known on not following through with their plans😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️.
@seanzibonanzi64
@seanzibonanzi64 Жыл бұрын
@@digger6843 In Belarus alone, over 5,000 towns were wiped off the map and their inhabitants killed or turned into refugees. To say the Nazis weren't committed to a plan of ethnic cleansing Eastern Europe is absurd.
@adobscurum5403
@adobscurum5403 Жыл бұрын
Great video, bud. I have a request although I’m not sure if you already covered this so forgive me if you did, but I’d be interested in a video regarding Hitler’s views on the other races of Europe, and if they indeed saw Slavs, Baltics, Meds etc. beneath the Germanics and the Nords
@adobscurum5403
@adobscurum5403 Жыл бұрын
I’m asking because very often people that identify themselves as so called natsocs always claim that Meds and Slavs are non-white, or beneath them, or even claim that ancient civilizations such as Ancient Greece or Rome were Germanic and Nordic, or atleast the leadership
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
I touch on it in ‘Hitlers plans for the East’
@kruggmichaels8958
@kruggmichaels8958 Жыл бұрын
​@@adobscurum5403 You say as if Meds didn't have the biggest superiority complex over the "barbarians" xD
@adobscurum5403
@adobscurum5403 Жыл бұрын
@@kruggmichaels8958 I read a superiority complex rarely from meds compared to what I read from nords. Honestly both should stop 😁
@daveweiss5647
@daveweiss5647 Жыл бұрын
From what I have read is that he/they really believed all Europeans were "Aryan" and equal but different, but that certain percentages of some of the groups had mixed with non European groups (ie- some Slavics with central Asian or some Meds with North African. Etc..) but yes an in depth video would be great considering all the misinformation/disinformation and black propaganda about the ideology... like the ridiculous "they hate everyone without" blonde hair blue eyes meme....
@couchdoggo
@couchdoggo 19 күн бұрын
im glad i found someone who can talk about history from a purely factual and objective stance. bias is way too prevalent these days and its honestly sad that everything has to be in the good guy/bad guy format and you have to see something a specific way even if its wrong or you're a horrible person. at least you're doing real work in the space and id like to thank you for that, we need more people like you in the world.
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 16 күн бұрын
"purely factual", the guy makes no actual citing of sources at all, lol.
@danielk934
@danielk934 15 күн бұрын
Dude, he just read shitty book of historian who was criticised by Oxford published historians
@AtichSilver
@AtichSilver Жыл бұрын
We love you Z. These videoes are so well researched and overall great. Thank you!
@TrisMacLife
@TrisMacLife 4 ай бұрын
4:51 Then why were they so unprepared for Barbarossa?
@aidhanroberts9028
@aidhanroberts9028 4 ай бұрын
As he said, they prepared an offensive platform on the border, not a defensive one
@horatiuscocles8052
@horatiuscocles8052 4 ай бұрын
Exactly my point lmao. At most they were going to be ready by 1943 or even as late as 1948 as the Non-aggression Pact stipulated.
@aidhanroberts9028
@aidhanroberts9028 4 ай бұрын
@@horatiuscocles8052 are you asking if the Russians, or Germans were unprepared? Your comments aren't adding up at all
@TrisMacLife
@TrisMacLife 4 ай бұрын
@@aidhanroberts9028 even so, it does not explain the sheer unpreparedness of the soviet army. If they were actually building up an offensive platform it still would’ve made them somewaht capable of defence, at least more than they were.
@aidhanroberts9028
@aidhanroberts9028 4 ай бұрын
@@TrisMacLife no, surprise is the most efficient weapon of war, and blitzkrieg embodied that to the highest standard at that time, offensive capability for invasion are useless when all your assets are smashed by a superior air force and the best tanks and troops of the time The initial success of the German offensive is comparable to the gulf war Way more capable force And trying to argue otherwise is pointless because the history of 1941 proves me right
@bigbasher4728
@bigbasher4728 12 күн бұрын
For almost the entire video you do not make any attempt disprove the existence of Generalplan Ost or the idea of Lebensraum. All you argue is that Germany's decision to invade the Soviet Union when and how it did was not just ideological, but also practical. Fine, granted. That makes sense. But then at the very end of the video you briefly address Lebensraum, which is what the title implies that the whole video is supposed to be about. And all you have to say about it is that whether it would have really come to fruition is "neither here nor there." I guess the overwhelming proof of genocide and ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe carried out by the Nazis is just "neither here nor there." I guess the fact that Hitler literally talks about it in his widely publicized book, Mein Kampf, is "neither here nor there." You can pull up a couple examples of high-ranking Nazis failing to mention Lebensraum when explaining the motives for the invasion, but that does not dismiss the overwhelming evidence of systemic atrocities that were committed. Whether it is evidence of these atrocities existing in theory, such as records and documents pertaining to Generalplan Ost, or firsthand accounts of these atrocities actually being carried out in real life, your video does little to dispel this evidence as "historical revision."
@yesidothinkso2411
@yesidothinkso2411 10 ай бұрын
Really great video!! Thank you for your work.
@rodzajki
@rodzajki 4 ай бұрын
Ещё одна жалкая попытка выдать версию Кейтеля о превентивной войне за ПравдуЪ!!!, когда на самом деле она была прожована, пережована и разоблечена ещё на Нюрнбергском процессе целых 80 лет назад...
@JayBob999
@JayBob999 4 ай бұрын
Bolshevik show trials....
@SahilHossain-ff4if
@SahilHossain-ff4if 2 ай бұрын
Indeed Neoliberal-Bolshivik show trials​@@JayBob999
@EuropeanEmpireEU
@EuropeanEmpireEU 4 ай бұрын
Patrick Buchanan as a main source 😂 This channel has to be satire
@konplayz
@konplayz 12 күн бұрын
Fancy seeing an xqc clips viewer here, but yeah, this channel is absolutely schizophrenic and disgusting
@KronnangDunn
@KronnangDunn 2 ай бұрын
This whole video contradicts "Mein Kampf" pretty bad....
@bigstink2459
@bigstink2459 Ай бұрын
Hitler himself was quoted as saying he regretted writing Mein Kampf and wouldn’t have written it if he knew where his political career would’ve ultimately ascended to.
@__-rj9pj
@__-rj9pj Ай бұрын
To be fair though, the narrative in mein kampf was written well before AH came to power. I think the narrator makes a point about the risk vs reward
@Lawrence_L1
@Lawrence_L1 10 ай бұрын
Can you provide a source list?
@saszac3881
@saszac3881 10 ай бұрын
up his ass
@jmn1999
@jmn1999 10 ай бұрын
Google ideology and you will see all you need.
@notsee494
@notsee494 8 ай бұрын
No he cant, because he is glazing nazis to high hell.
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 7 ай бұрын
Icebreaker by Victor Suvorov and Stalin's War by Sean McMeekin
@peterwerner3132
@peterwerner3132 Жыл бұрын
A history of this era tha actually researched the fact... how refreshing.
@ZoomerHistorian
@ZoomerHistorian Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate means a lot
@gragas8571
@gragas8571 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Although my question comes from another video that I can't find, but in a previous video you mentioned that Poland was commiting atrocities against ethnic Germans in Poland. I hate to be a "source????!" guy, but this is the first i've heard of this and would like to know more.
@samuraieko5408
@samuraieko5408 Жыл бұрын
Look up, "Danzig Massacres"
@cool3860
@cool3860 Жыл бұрын
I would like to read those aforementioned "Sources" too, if you don't mind, could you elaborate what kind of "Atrocities" were committed on the Polish side of the Invasion?
@samuraieko5408
@samuraieko5408 Жыл бұрын
@@cool3860 Danzig-Bromberg
@hamilcarbarca8659
@hamilcarbarca8659 11 ай бұрын
Watch Europa The Last Battle on Brighteon.
@isaackellogg3493
@isaackellogg3493 10 ай бұрын
What about the Agarthans threatening to emerge from beneath the surface to enslave all the non-Aryans, so Hitler was trying to build a defensive alliance of Atlantis-descended Aryan Empires, and the Soviet Union geographically contained the confluence of the worlds greatest ley line networks? “He who controls the Heartland, controls the world”?
@BigJohnson-g3j
@BigJohnson-g3j 9 ай бұрын
Yawn
@wtf1231122
@wtf1231122 29 күн бұрын
So i think the j- *your comment has been flagged and reported for TOS violations*
@haveyouseenkyle2853
@haveyouseenkyle2853 11 ай бұрын
Never forget the holomodor
@internetperson8638
@internetperson8638 11 ай бұрын
Result of rust infestation and drought, last major famine in Russian history aside from war induced ones whereas they were constant in the Empire. If you’re going to believe debunked myths and narratives about Germany then why do you believe ones about Russia from the same people?
@skillfuldabest
@skillfuldabest 10 ай бұрын
Holodomor*
@xgtwb6473
@xgtwb6473 10 ай бұрын
Hodor
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU 10 ай бұрын
That was the holocaust karl marx spoken about
@npcarnivore
@npcarnivore 10 ай бұрын
I never heard of that until some people enlightened me on the subject. Who really controls the narrative?!
@thewormthatturned4323
@thewormthatturned4323 3 ай бұрын
Another great video. I am fascinated by how much the history of this war has been maligned. Your videos are a fantastic resource to compliment my reading. What is your opinion of the author Sean McMeekin?
@o-...-.-...-..0473
@o-...-.-...-..0473 Жыл бұрын
What does Hitler mean here in page 91 of Mein Kamp here in chapter 4 Münich? Is there any more context to it? ""Any alliance with another country should have been considered and assessed based on its usefulness from this standpoint alone. If European soil was the objective, it could be acquired primarily at the expense of Russia. The new Empire must once again march the road of the ancient Knights of the German Order and use the sword to provide land for the German plow which can then provide our daily bread. ""
@tweektweak3274
@tweektweak3274 Жыл бұрын
Lebensraum was a real concept, but keep in mind that it was a far more long term goal and not a means to commit genocide against or enslave Slavic people, which is a laughable theory at best.
@o-...-.-...-..0473
@o-...-.-...-..0473 Жыл бұрын
@@tweektweak3274 Yeah, that's general plan ost which is a different thing (something I think is likely fake). Though this passage in chapter 4 Münich does imply at best conquering Eastern Europe to be under German jurisdiction, maybe in a way comparable to the Roman conquests.
@Bjornplaylist101
@Bjornplaylist101 Жыл бұрын
your pic says a lot is that how you see your self ?
@o-...-.-...-..0473
@o-...-.-...-..0473 Жыл бұрын
@user-jw6gf4eb2g What do you think my pic says, out of interest?
@Imperium83
@Imperium83 Жыл бұрын
He talks more about it at length in Hitler's Table Talk, where he suggests creating satellite states aligned with the Reich to act as bread baskets in the East. He used the British dominance of India and her people as a contemporary example.
@JoeyStarley
@JoeyStarley 10 ай бұрын
The western world should have been grateful to Germany for the preimptive stike on Bolshevism.
@tritium1998
@tritium1998 9 ай бұрын
So you're saying you were already a failed result because Soviets were stronger than you.
@JoeyStarley
@JoeyStarley 3 ай бұрын
​@@tritium1998I don't understand what you're saying
@timrmccarthy
@timrmccarthy Жыл бұрын
Lebensraum is not a myth. The right of 'advanced' cultures taking and developing land underutilized by 'primitive' cultures. German Lebensraum philosophy across Eastern Europe 1880-1941 takes direct inspiration from American Manifest Destiny philosophy across Western America 1780-1880. Hitler said "we should treat the population of Russia as Red Indians."
@xXKillaBGXx
@xXKillaBGXx 11 ай бұрын
Source on that quote?
@that1metalhead792
@that1metalhead792 11 ай бұрын
@@xXKillaBGXx Trust me bro, the guy that attended and orchestrated a funerary service in Berlin for a Polish man wanted to LARP as an 18th century American frontiersman and genocide Slavs or smthn
@m7ray
@m7ray 10 ай бұрын
That zoomer historian is an imbecile with brain damage. Or even worse just a nazi apologist
@m7ray
@m7ray 10 ай бұрын
​@@xXKillaBGXx Quote was included in the comment. Are all the viewers here as dump as this "historian"? 🤦‍♂️
@xXKillaBGXx
@xXKillaBGXx 10 ай бұрын
@@m7ray I said source, not quote.
@what-oy8il
@what-oy8il 4 ай бұрын
Before watching this, just to let you know AH did desire to colonise Eastern Europe. I read it and he says it in his own book
@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753
@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 4 ай бұрын
I think that is why the Sowjets prepared to strike in the first place. Plus the Germans wer running low on oil, it was now or never for them.
@larrayyyyy
@larrayyyyy 4 ай бұрын
Of course he did, this video doesn't completely invalidate lebensraum because AH still wanted it. It just explains why AH declared war on the Soviets while at war with Britain instead of after the war.
@what-oy8il
@what-oy8il 4 ай бұрын
@@larrayyyyy the name of the video implies otherwise.
@altqtum9383
@altqtum9383 4 ай бұрын
It was already "colonized" in way since mediaval times. Many german minorities that found themselves stuck in Poland, Baltic countries or Czeschoslovakia after WW1 but that AH reintegrated in the new reich afterwards. That's what this narrative about the east mostly was.
@what-oy8il
@what-oy8il 4 ай бұрын
@@altqtum9383 I read his book, the stalag edition. He clearly wanted for Germany to have a colonial empire in the east like Britain had in Africa.
@kooshakolahchi7536
@kooshakolahchi7536 5 ай бұрын
i love you bro you have the best answers
@hinglemccringleberry9494
@hinglemccringleberry9494 8 ай бұрын
To what extent did the Luftwaffe attack Russia? Thinking about it now I’ve never heard of the Soviet Air Force
@degrelle4ever931
@degrelle4ever931 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely superb and very well researched video. I have studied these events for almost 25 years and you nailed it.
@jowen466
@jowen466 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are changing everything we’ve been taught by our schools and grandparents. Always a one sided story and never from the german or hitler perspective.
@yousufmirza5328
@yousufmirza5328 2 ай бұрын
Because hitler and the germans were pure evil
@janvanrenesse2118
@janvanrenesse2118 7 ай бұрын
Of course, all of Europe knew that the Soviets were preparing an attack on Europe. The Catholic Church knew that too. That was the reason why in all Catholic countries pastors from the pulpit called on young men to fight against the Bolshevists. Many young men in Europe responded to this call and volunteered in the German army to fight against the communist threat on the Eastern Front.
@viktorD4
@viktorD4 10 ай бұрын
first mistake. The USSR army was 1.5 million smaller than the German army, although they like to indicate the number of tanks at 20 thousand, in reality there were only 11 thousand combat-ready. The Soviets also had fewer modern artillery pieces (precisely due to Tukhachevsky’s fault)
@apophisRO
@apophisRO 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes, wikipedia history.
@celluskh6009
@celluskh6009 10 ай бұрын
The USSR army was 1.5 million smaller than the German *military*. The USSR had the world's largest army, as stated.
@viktorD4
@viktorD4 10 ай бұрын
@@celluskh6009 in the summer of 1941, the USSR had an army of 5.7 million, and the Wehrmacht 7.2 million + Finland 340 thousand, Hungary 93 thousand and Romania 320 thousand. Specifically, in the western military district there were 2.8 million Soviet troops, and the Wehrmacht and its allies invaded the USSR with troops numbering 4.8 million. if you can count, you will understand that the difference between the Wehrmacht and the Red Army is 1.5 million, and specifically in the western districts the difference reached 2 million in favor of Germany. The USSR kept half of its troops on the border with Japan and Turkey.
@fictionindianspaceprogram-222
@fictionindianspaceprogram-222 10 ай бұрын
​@@apophisROah hes Qanon history
@juliantheapostate8295
@juliantheapostate8295 9 ай бұрын
@@viktorD4 The USSR had a 5:1 advantage in numbers of tanks (many of them the excellent T34 and later variants). They also had ample fuel supplies. This was the decisive factor. The Axis had the advantage in men at Barbarossa but by Spring '42 they had lost it. The Axis had air superiority up until the end of '42
@aeirsone9045
@aeirsone9045 10 ай бұрын
Based channel and best ww2 content I’ve found. Can you make a video on what really happened in regards to the concentration camps?
@ricoarmstrong7440
@ricoarmstrong7440 10 ай бұрын
Concentration camps did exist. Some were even meant for killing and disposing of bodys. Though 6 million ...
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 10 ай бұрын
Millions of people were killed mate. Not much more too it.
@fictionindianspaceprogram-222
@fictionindianspaceprogram-222 10 ай бұрын
~based~ more like niazi revisionist
@RobotsandMonsters
@RobotsandMonsters 8 ай бұрын
​@falconmclenny7284 of course there is much more to it. The reason why millions died makes a huge difference. Starvation and disease due to cut supply lines. Germany was deporting the magic hats to Palestine before the war made the logistics impossible. Hilariously enough, the magic hats want to do exactly that to Palestinians 😂. So really, magic hats and NSDAP have much in common regarding their desires for an ethnically pure state.
@d.k8746
@d.k8746 8 ай бұрын
from brentonbradberrys book "As thousand plane armadas of bombers continued to obliterate German towns right up until the day of surrender, during the last months of the war 1,800 British and American fighter planes were unleashed over Germany with orders to destroy the transportation system of the entire country. All day long, every day, the skies were filled with these fighter planes crisscrossing over the German countryside, strafing anything that moved. They especially targeted trains. They first shot into the steam locomotives, causing them to explode, then circled back around and made strafing runs shooting up the cars, including passenger cars loaded with refugees. They strafed vehicles on the roads, people riding bicycles, or people just walking along the roads. They strafed farmers plowing in their fields, and killed their livestock. They strafed into the windows of houses. They strafed people in the streets. They especially worked over refugee columns on the roads as they fled invading armies. Killing Germans became sport. Germany became a slaughterhouse where anything that moved was fair game. As a result of all of this, the Germans could not feed their people for lack of transport. They could not feed the inmates in the concentration camps. This accounts for the masses of emaciated corpses which so shocked American and British troops who encountered them as they moved into Germany. Typhus epidemics had broken out amongst the starvation weakened inmates. But the Russians were the worst. When they first entered East Prussia, they rd and slaughtered Germans in their masses. All of East Prussia took to the roads, running away from the advancing Russians, trying to make their way as refugees into the heart of Germany. “The disaster that befell this area with the entry of the Soviet forces has no parallel in modern European experience. There were considerable sections of it where, to judge by all existing evidence, scarcely a man, woman or child of the indigenous population was left alive after the initial passage of the Soviet forces.” George F. Kennan, Memoirs, 1967
@dgnw1
@dgnw1 6 ай бұрын
Wenigstens ein Kanal der den Teil unserer Geschichte nicht als das absolut Böse darstellt, danke dafür.
@Aexgamer48
@Aexgamer48 5 ай бұрын
Dieser Kanal ist geführt von ein Neo Nazi und labert nur Scheiße
@mariasmith4265
@mariasmith4265 4 ай бұрын
​@@Aexgamer48Debunk the claims of this channel then.
@Aexgamer48
@Aexgamer48 4 ай бұрын
@mariasmith4265 Hitlers himself is the one who created the whole Lebensraum thing in Mein Kampf, then would you guess he would later go on to invade those exact people and his generals were all for it, guess why?
@Simon_the_penguin
@Simon_the_penguin 4 ай бұрын
Bro I was so confused what he was on abt and than I was like “ohhhhh it’s the guy who glazes Hitler.”
@dickfelpslegallawmaster3245
@dickfelpslegallawmaster3245 4 ай бұрын
You have your pronouns in your user that's so funny lmao
@maxi5208
@maxi5208 4 ай бұрын
I was 100% sure you were a mulatto, I was shocked when I entered your profile.
@ikarder
@ikarder 4 ай бұрын
Same thoughts. And when things like that having consequences people asking "how people didn't saw they were a bad guys all along?"
@NotCasualTomfoolery
@NotCasualTomfoolery 4 ай бұрын
How can't you glaze Hitler?
@Lafoofi
@Lafoofi 6 күн бұрын
That's wild 😭😭😭.
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