The Legend of Winning vs. The Locker Room | FYF Sports Debates

[@KartelBeatz]

In the end Low argued his point better. It’s not about what side you think is right, it’s about who won the debate. I think Lamont is protecting Reggie & not being genuine, because in other debates even if he agrees with another side, but the other won. He will say that it’s all about who won the debate.

[@johnmorgan9762]

Exactly

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

the other guy did not even say anything , he just named who was drafted in 2017 lol

[@gorcsauce696]

Legend of eating vs the bathroom

[@Red-Hood]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@trey8272]

😂😂😂

[@TREALC]

Facts 😂😂😂

[@sonseed7541]

huh

[@paniqdoe]

Lamont every time Locker Room debates u try to argue these points that he didn’t even make in his argument. Maybe If he would’ve brought these points up in his debate then he would’ve won

[@timjames8713]

Lamont just arguing to argue. Low clearly won that. I mean clearly.

[@victoralexander3767]

LOW THA GOAT🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥the Jordan music was perfect.

[@TrueXL]

I got lockerroom 2-1 I honestly don't see how the panel didn't see Lockerroom point.

[@theblackbookclub1]

I think Lamont just wanted to argue against low because it was a sweep

[@savancex]

Facts lol

[@kristianflamsted9038]

Host picked Locker because he agreed with him, but Low clearly argued his point better. Low even said "I agree the Lakers can do it but what about the other teams?" and Locker kept talking about the Lakers... Anyway, was fun watching. Thing is it's not about either/or but who does both things well. Locker used the chance of draft picks becoming all stars as an argument, but like Low said you can fail when trading as well. Some players change teams and don't are a shell of them former self. My personal opinion is that drafting good is way more important for long term success, but obviously both is needed.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Lockeroom lost cause he didn't argue his points well enough. Lamont presented the argument far better in his recap

[@ajp135212]

I agree with Locker room but Low debates his point better. Low won the debate but even before hearing the debate I thought locker rooms side was the way to get a championship team. But it’s not about what side I agree with it’s about Who can debate there point better

[@Lebronsliver]

Ladies room lost

[@trey8272]

Lmao the thumbnail is filthy it looks like low about to take a bite out of a BIG MAC😂

[@justinthomas1083]

Free agency n trading are 2 different scenarios

[@victoralexander3767]

The crazy part is the question is flawed. It’s actually equal.

[@buusa]

LITERALLY 😂😂😂

[@victoralexander3767]

@@buusa you feel me bro? Like they can’t name one championship team that was completely drafted from stars to role players or one team completely made out of signings and trades.

[@micahgalbreath2963]

Low my goat🐐

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

lamont bias is shown, finessing is apart of a debate,locker room had the opportunity to debunk low and did not

[@ghostown6314]

You people didn’t even understand Locker room was right. At the end of the day. You are still trading regardless of if you use draft picks. Period

[@victoralexander3767]

No, what YOU don’t understand is that you can’t name ONE modern team that was comprised of ALL trades and signings or even ALL draft picks. You have to utilize a mixture of both simply because of the nature of the beast. Either you draft a Superstar generational talent and trade for some role players or you draft ex superstars and role players and sign superstars… the real question is does a draft pick that you trade for count as a draft or a trade ie Kobe, Scottie, Bill Russell. Rudy was traded for a bunch of picks plus players… so simultaneously that would count as a trade AND a draft. They gave up a great player in order to draft one or two. BUT… LOW was right because YES teams with great markets may find it easier to signing and trading BUT the majority of the teams in NBA history aren’t big markets! Soooooo the easier thing for them to do is draft!

[@josephhandy8767]

@@victoralexander3767I don’t think it’s easier for small market teams to draft because if they could draft well, then more of them would be champions or been to the Finals. It’s not easier to build a championship team through the draft because you will always need to trade and sign free agents to get you over the top. The Nuggets are a perfect example. Their core 2 was together 7 years, core 3 together 5 years before they won a chip. They won last season because of all their role players they got in free agency and trades. That’s always been the method to building championship squads. Most teams maybe have 2-3 players max they drafted on a championship teams and the other 4-5 players may be free agents

[@jrthehunter4309]

In my opinion, LOW killed it with that Anthony Davis point. The Lakers would not have been able to trade for Anthony Davis if they had not DRAFTED Lonzo, Ingram, and Hart. The warriors would not have been able to obtain KD in Free Agency if Curry, Klay, and Draymond were not STILL on there rookie deal/extension for the team that DRAFTED them. The foundation is ALWAYS the most important and effective part of building anything.

[@josephhandy8767]

@@jrthehunter4309 the foundation for the Lakers winning a chip literally wasn’t their draft picks lol. The only players they drafted on that team that played was Caruso and Kuz lol. Everybody else was a free agent or trade. So when we saying effective, we saying the most efficient way to get there. If it takes the Lakers 2 seasons essentially to make a championship team, vs a Denver who took 7 years to make a championship team, how is that more effective? Lol, I get it y’all like LOW. But u can’t say something that takes 5 more years to manifest is more efficient lol. That’s literally the opposite of the definition lol

[@josephhandy8767]

@@jrthehunter4309 or even with the GS example, that took 5-6 years to make them a championship team building thru the draft. The Cavs literally were a championship team the very first year thru a trade and free agency lol.

[@adriandantedanosos4146]

The Nuggets were built through the draft.

[@3rdgenbobby962]

I understand Lamont logic it's just wrong. He's separating moves by "moves that made us contenders " and "moves that made us champs" But those moves that made them contenders is still apart of moves that made them champs because that is everyone's FINAL GOAL

[@janitorialjargon2411]

Ok so now im confused on the question.... first the question was "Whats the best way to build a team?" then it turned into "Best way to win a championship?". Which one is it?

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

whats the differnece dog, the best teams win championships

[@janitorialjargon2411]

​@@ishowspeedplug2845because one aspect can be kind of applicable to all the teams in the NBA while winning a championship pertains to only a select few. If it's about winning a chip then of course trades/free agency are the way to go because you already have everything established but all you need is something to get over the hump. For example like Kawahi going to the Raptors or Porzingus going to the Celtics. But if you are BUILDING that means you don't have much to work with and the best way to build without sacrificing much is through the draft. Everyone has a chance to scout talent and to find hidden gems while knowing the risk of the pick not panning out.

[@donovanpipkins408]

@@ishowspeedplug2845the difference is if you’re talking about the best WAY to build a team you’re just talking about building a good team at least playoff contenders not a championship team. When and even so the fact still remains the draft is obviously the best way look at the top teams top 8 teams in both conferences all of their best players or second best players were all drafted to the team. The point low is making is we don’t know what these teams would look like without those key draft picks. Like golden state, yes they got Andrew Wiggins and he was very good for defense but could he become a number 1 or 2 option like Jordan Poole did? Forget the playoffs yall forget Poole was apart of the reason they made it to the playoffs in the first place the BIGGEST reason if we being real. Not because of Andrew Wiggins. When the last time you seen the timber wolves this high in the seeding? A long time…..now they number three cause of Anthony Edwards’s someone whom they drafted. The Celtics been playoff contenders since they got Tatum And Brown and even if it’s about being championship contenders(and I’m just going off seeding when I say this as far as technical contenders) the fact STILL remains without the team drafting a Jokic, Tatum, Curry, Giannis, Ant, Chet you’re not in the runnings anyway.

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

@@donovanpipkins408 you typed all that for no reason , no way I’m reading that . I typed one sentence

[@elmerayala5366]

Damn Low washed that guy

[@dariuswilliams3206]

What I took from this was “it’s easier for a large market team to build a championship team from trade and signing than it is for a small market team to build a championship team through the draft.”

[@theblackbookclub1]

Bruh lost and said folks can't read 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@genshishio9316]

If we are going based off of the quality of the arguments made the Locker room got destroyed. It was the 3rd round that he actually made really good arguments. The debate after the debate was more interesting but the people acting like LOW did a finesse job is weird af. The fact that a judge gave Locker Room the dub after admitting he did a poor job just coz he like that side of the argument is hella weird too. What’s the point of the debate if the judge already has a side?

[@Onechance_ngl]

You need more educated members on the panel. It seems like the debates always go over their heads lol

[@asanteL]

Locker Room won

[@eccentricaste3232]

That was an impressive debate by the locker room. That was surgical. Very straight to the point. He followed rules of debate to the T without much logical fallacies. He gave examples, backed up his argument with facts. He was well researched for this debate and gave solid examples. That was easy. In his closing remarks, he referenced the debate topic. It was almost like he red it from a paper because of how well it was done. 👏 To say that KD went to the suns due to the drafting of booker, is a terribly premise. He went there because booker was there, it doesn't matter if it was through draft or not.

[@temo7073]

That 2017 draft argument didn’t make sense bc even if you don’t redraft, all those players other than OG still went in the lottery. And if anything Fultz and Lonzo failed more-so from injuries than lack of skill. Just bc they didn’t go 1st or 2nd doesn’t mean they weren’t highly touted guys.

[@buusa]

43:38 and this is when the argument ends.

[@randyfuller3057]

Okay, so far I listened to some of the debate. I'm strongly leaning towards locker room as the winner. The 2004 Pistons is surefire proof of his points. The 2004 Pistons nearly went back to back against 2 dynasties (2004 Lakers & 2005 Spurs). The Spurs of the early 2000's are the unicorns because they hit big on Tim Duncan Tony Parker Manu Ginobili & Kawhi Leonard in their respective drafts

[@ishowspeedplug2845]

you talking about one team in one year tho, lets be real

[@ibringit987]

Lamont was trolling there's no way.

[@jeremyjames7147]

First time watcher, does this locker room guy normally just not debate the topic at all? Low really cooked him by just asking how memphis or charlotte would build.

[@SandcastleGirl]

Low cooked him right out the gate. Lockerroom is horrible 😂😂😂

[@Kingtutt414]

Bro they both was making the same argument but somehow it became a debate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@realraw99]

Lockerroom won easy

[@randyfuller3057]

Aww shiii I'm just in time!!!

[@HTTC4life1981]

I got locker room 2-1 I don't what these dudes talking about lol😅

[@ArmsFerrigno]

Does locker room ever win a debate? 😂 All i ever hear is him complaining about how he got cheated.

[@leonardoalmestica3267]

Yeah u guys eat so much Meat it seems that u cant even Pick the Rite Person who won.Bec u wanna be a Little Boy who wanna Hate😡😡😡😡😡🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@otammo1950]

This guy Low said penny can’t ball,it’s like saying he’s slim 😅

[@davidbarnes3188]

I'm not the biggest fan of the locker room but I think he won that

[@randyfuller3057]

Why you don't really care for the locker room? If you don't mind me asking

[@davidbarnes3188]

@@randyfuller3057 i think he's one of them dudes that's thinks he's smarter than what he is.

[@randyfuller3057]

@@davidbarnes3188 Okay, that's fair.. I can see your point

[@SandcastleGirl]

​@davidbarnes3188 I agree! He also takes it personal if you have a different opinion than him, even if your respectful with it, he will block you, create a soundbite out of you or hang up the phone on you which is corny to me. He has great content, great potential and seems like a decent guy but get in his own way.

[@davidbarnes3188]

@@SandcastleGirl is content is mediocre to me but he does have potential

[@Akeeyama]

The host literally was making points on what the debater should have said. That's how the dude could have won. This is nasty work. I agree with trades makes a team for a championship the argument just wasn't good enough.

[@3rdgenbobby962]

In a general question like that you answer based on the majority of the league. So the easiest way for majority to win is drafting. Ho you arguing against majority

[@TheBiggHitt]

Can I do a round as well next time Lamont ?

[@bigbossdaniel5170]

33:16 LOW looks bored 😅

[@theblackbookclub1]

Low cooked locker room right here

[@adeokunx7522]

Isn't this an old video? I know that it says March the 9th, but I feel like they've debated this subject before

[@kuntriiboi]

I thought so

[@adeokunx7522]

@@kuntriiboi you thought Right

[@anthonycelestin3559]

That Brandon dude was annoying. Lamont you should’ve took Brandon out the phone line, he was disrupting the flow of the convo with his rambling going off a tangent

[@SandcastleGirl]

Facts 💯

[@LeslieBarber-hz1se]

James Worthy came byway of a cointoss

[@johnwayne-oh4pn]

ya are trippin ..... two way players are above average on both side of the ball......draymond is not a two way player......he is a playmaker defender

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[@JoePapi1130]

I think you guys were leaning into semantics a little too much. At the end of the day, how many championship teams have been built by free agents vs drafting well and building from there. We know the real answer.

[@ghostown6314]

The Locker Room won!

[@adriandantedanosos4146]

50/50

[@yoooo6896]

Not even close lol

[@ralphdagamer7350]

How do u openly admit as a Judge that you let Low CHANGE the original question lol??? The glazing was too real

[@BiggSneaddd]

Locker Room WON this debate....If teams don't make trades regardless of who they drafted, THEY WILL NOT WIN!!! Sorry panel sounded biased in my opinion.

[@BiggSneaddd]

THE QUESTION WAS" go to 03:50.....What is the BEST WAY to BUILD a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM through the DRAFT or TRADES & FREE AGENCY??? DUHHHH through TRADES... LOCKER ROOM WON!!!!

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[@samoso6979]

lol fyf and locker room Tryna confuse ppl

[@LoneWolf22_]

KOBE IS THE BEST EVER. MJ KAREEM KOBE. THAT ORDER

[@Xtrigg]

Locker room won this easily

[@UltraGreatness13]

The best way to build a championship roster is through trading not drafting. If the question was asked which one is these is fair to build an NBA team? It will be Drafting all day. To build a Champship team trading is more important. Look at LeBron y'all. We know all team going to get draft picks at some point in their organization. With that being said, I want a championship so therefore I have to trade my valuable asset for a championship team. As far as What Low was saying. How does small market teams get major assets? I don't know The question was What is the best way to build a championship team?

[@otammo1950]

90’s is trash but the dream team is considered the greatest of them all 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ochitokes]

Redeem team stomps

[@Creamcity414]

Locker room was great Low the hardest to beat it’s a draw LR argued better but Lo facts are just goated

[@savancex]

Low argued better as well lol

[@qualinteranzy7948]

Furst round was so bad by locker room i thought he was gonna get smoked then locker room came back but i still think Low won

[@KHTVMEDIA247]

Locker room 3-0

[@otammo1950]

Scottie pipen couldn’t play in this era,but Jamal Murray and aron Gordon are elite players in this era😅🤣 low ur not credible 🧢

[@daoriginalpeople128]

🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@dugginsc16]

This man hate when the home team lose lol he always go back and try to discredit the away team 😂😂😂. Just host bro you take way from the scare when you do that. Shit be looking like a hater. Eveey battle I see with Lamont he do this

[@velimasuku8808]

LockerRoom 30'd low 😂😂

[@upyall]

Teams don't win in the draft, they win in free agency and trades. Do the math. Teams with the most draft picks have the fewest championships, it's very simple.

[@adriandantedanosos4146]

You need to draft to build a foundation. Then you do trades and free agency to take the next step.

[@josephhandy8767]

They don’t realize the Lakers have the MOST chips in the league and outside of Magic and Worthy, all of their teams were built in free agency lol. Also how many players on a team are we considering building a team vs buying a team? 3-4-5? Cuz the Nuggets last year for instance u could say bought their chip because their core 3 couldn’t get over the hump but every other player that helped win the chip was players brought in from other teams

[@dugginsc16]

Damn I really wanna like this but damn crying about losing is wack af! I gave y’all 40 minutes of watch time but I’m out. We cant even get to the next debate lol. Semi good content though. Be up!

[@Divine_unity]

Stop hating on ticket

[@xkid.darkskin5178]

no one is hating dude is sensitive and gets triggered easily don’t @ me

[@philminor233]

So I guess when the Spurs got Duncan Parker and Manu that didn't prove Lows point lolololol yall trash let me come on their yall will get cooked Guess when the Rockets got Horry in free agency and drafted Sam Cassell instant offense yall light work

[@realraw99]

A bunch low fan boys that don't know nothing about basketball