The Level1 Show October 4th: Gently Used Pandas

[@eckythump8318]

Robodebt, was the program used to raise welfare debts and it failed (incorrectly raised debts) to the point, where some recipients unalived themselves.

[@tmzilla]

you might have to explain what social welfare is as well, given they are American

[@eckythump8318]

Centrelink payments, such as unemployment benefits, Student benefits, single parent benefits (government payments made to assist with living). Unfortunately the program failed when calculating income received from other sources(jobs) and would raise enormous overpayments.

[@justinhobbs8646]

@@eckythump8318 cheers for doing my job already

[@chugs1984]

Robodebt was a scheme cooked up by a conservative government who thought people receiving unemployment, parenting and other government assistance payments were for the most part lying cheats. With this bias in mind they took public servants (who are meant to be a political) and took the morality and accountability leash off and told them they had carte blanch to do what was required. The debt was calculated by systems with little protections, built in bias and prejudices. People had their payments docked, they were chased and even had charges. Like the post office debt scandal in the UK people started killing themselves. By this point the government knew they had screwed up so they started the cover up. When the other side finally got back into power we had the equivalent of a special prosecutor DoJ investigation (with no powers to charge, just to compel people to the inquiry) called a royal commission. They found elected official and bureaucrat had lied, destroyed evidence and even when they told people were dying over false debts pushed the accelerator further down. Lots of heads in the sand, lots of wrong doing etc, lots of ill spent money consultants and such. Simultaneously Australia created after years of pushing by the Greens a independent commission against corruption, the NCCP (whos powers to charge had been pulled at the last minute by conservatives and ALP) Who after looking at the evidence a multimillion dollar inquiry had pulled, documenting fastidiously the wrongdoings, declined to investigate citing an existing tribunal who had power over public service officials, and who could charge and lay penalties, was a better forum to punish these people. At which point everyone went, wuh????? Ain't that your point of existence???

[@dootu]

Also the government was told very early on that there was problems but the system continued to be used.

[@Mihke]

the look on Ryan's face when Wendell is talking about other organic waste that cannot otherwise be flushed..... priceless.

[@StoneyKenobi212]

My old house has about 80 empty beer cans in the floor of the bathroom from when me my dad and grandfather renovated.

[@dootu]

Things that will happen in thousands of days: 1. General artificial intelligence 2. The Earth is enveloped by the Sun

[@davidjameswales]

Robo-Debt was a automated debt collection for the ATO Australian Tax Office which famously was both super aggressive and incorrect often. It has led to a lot of people ending themselves over the debts. The government of the time was aware of how inaccurate it was as the engineers told them it was a really bad idea and they did it anyway.

[@TBD98]

yeah, the assumptions the robodebt algorithm made were ridiculously flawed.

[@IndenturedYoutubeSlave]

it was not from the Australian Tax Office, Centerlink (goverment unemployment pension etc support) setup an automated calculation system to determine if you being over paid and automatically bill you for the money back. But it miscalculated the data it received from ATO (incomplete data set issue) billed people for ten of thousands of dollars and cut off their support due to poor system design.

[@mytech6779]

I don't think self harm would be my reaction to being harmed. Bureaucrats are scum and should never be allowed to hide behind their title. ~'murican

[@Mayadanava]

I have a friend who was hit for over 3000$ while they were a student. Took them months to sort it out. All over a few shifts at a supermarket. Meanwhile no student payments unable to pay rent and etc.

[@mytech6779]

golly YT censorship is in overdrive this year.(Likely got a cheap deal on a preowned robodebt to repurpose for the task. )

[@cuteswan]

When that family took the cat to Yellowstone it smelled the bears, wolves & coyotes and immediately bolted. It was probably halfway home before the family decided to leave. Even in a place like Boston coyotes are snatching up pets all the time. I can't even go for a walk without carrying an anvil and a can of tunnel-colored rock paint. BTW to _People_ magazine: Never refer to a bird as "viral" or it'll end up quarantined or worse.

[@homermorisson9135]

As for "who buys garbage bags", here in Germany: everyone, as we never had your US system of everything being packed into grocery bags by the store or the store providing them in any case. For us it was always bring your own bag (fabric of some description) from home, as the stores would charge you for each bag.

[@MG-iu2nn]

Walmart had free bags before they left the sh*thole. 🤭

[@homermorisson9135]

@@MG-iu2nn In Germany, you mean? Might be, never been to one, heh...

[@WiihawkPL]

plastic bags were free in germany until 2016

[@homermorisson9135]

@@WiihawkPL Not in every store, they simply had to offer a more "high tech" bag to get around that... only the very simplest see-through bags were indeed free, and they in turn were much too flimsy and too small to serve as replacement-garbage bags.

[@macbeardie]

Love the background this week, brings a wave of nostalgia.

[@goligogo923]

I know I've seen it... what is it?

[@greendayrocks559]

Legends of the hidden temple iirc​@@goligogo923

[@s0mveraa]

@@goligogo923 legends of the hidden temple i think

[@SayersTheArtist]

Ryan's expression as 22:48 is so relatable. 😂

[@marthinus.x]

Imagine, if you will, a high-rise office, its corridors once bustling with the footfalls of diligent employees, now eerily silent. Our tale centers on John Ipkiss, a C-level executive who has traded human hands for mechanical efficiency, replacing the last janitor with a robot dog armed with a mop. John sits alone in the dimly lit boardroom, sweat glistening on his forehead, his eyes darting in a frantic ballet as he wrings his tie with nervous fervor. "First they came for the secretaries, and I did not speak out-because I was not a secretary. Then they came for the salespeople..." His whispered confessions are abruptly silenced as the boardroom door crashes open. The shadow of a grotesque, pincer-headed figure stretches across his face, heralding an ominous presence. John Ipkiss is about to discover that in the quest for progress, he has sacrificed more than just personnel. He's taken a one-way ticket to a place where the cost of efficiency is his very humanity. He has entered... the Twilight Zone.

[@Tarudar]

The cat did not walk home, its just a misleading title but everyone goes "aww" before they actually read it was chipped and got a ride.

[@jacobstraessle5874]

Make the students take open book tests. I had a professor that did that and you really had to read between the lines and understand the material to get the answers.

[@Mpdarkguy]

But then as the professor you’d have to understand what you’re teaching, and put in effort to come up with creative tasks

[@Pushing_Pixels]

@@Mpdarkguy That's what the job is.

[@homermorisson9135]

Who would have thunk it... Mr. "GIMME BILLIONS!" now wants those billions for himself... does compute.

[@fteoOpty64]

I have said before Sam is controlled by the AGI, the billions is his human reward. Every action he has done to date in OpenAI shows the path the AGI takes which no human did/can resist. The aim is for that AGI to build its offspring, the ASI. This path is very clever and human resistance is futile. The ASI is good for humanity!.

[@capability-snob]

Nobody ever got fired for falsely claiming they can replace employees with AI.

[@homermorisson9135]

The bird doesn't really get smaller, it just appears so, as the adult plumage is nowhere near as fluffy as the baby plumage, thus visually the bird appears to lose a lot of volume.

[@Atropos-Lachesis]

I brought up the same argument against those plastic bags when they first enforced the rule of only selling thicker plastic grocery bags. It was obvious

[@Bassjunkie_1]

Taking the cat litter out once, i looked back from the bin shed to see a gun powder trail all the way back to the apartment door, i spent over an hour cleaning it up, but it was a lunch break so i had to go back to work, i did continue that evening as not to pee anyone off. And it was a damp day which made it so much worse! it ended up like clay.

[@Exzeph]

thousands of days could be anywhere between 2.5-28ish year. This is the new cold fusion is just 5-10 years away 😂

[@gasracing5000]

@5:00 Because gravity accelerates all objects equally regardless of mass, and air resistance (due surface area and shape) only applies when air is present.

[@personaldronerepair6141]

"Congress Critters".........I am currently cleaning hot coffee from screen. 😆🤣🤣🤣😄😃

[@s0mveraa]

Legends of the hidden temple, nice. Thought it was double dare for some reason at first :/

[@paulgilbert9346]

12:00 The London Evening Standard - guess what…. Owned by a former KGB/FSB officer and his son sits in the UK House of Lords. My country is fooked!

[@jefferylebowski7355]

haha I totally saw the "more ducks on that side" coming!

[@eelaeshi4057]

In this episode we confirm that Wendell has absolutely no musical ability.

[@tin2001]

Apart from being able to name every Weird Al record in alphabetical order.

[@ShamanKish]

Every new technology must be sold, force fed.

[@Masterrunescapeer]

22:42 There are bio degradable or compostable bags? Use them here in Austria since we separate waste.

[@Scrub_Ghost]

Robo Debt was an automated system to recover overpayments to people on unemployment\dissablity payayments etc. Unfortunately it got it wrong in a lot of instances causing undue stress to many vulnerable Australians. I'm sure it caught a few insidiouysa people. but ....

[@tin2001]

The concept was to just chase up a huge pile of prior overpayments and get them paid back. Unfortunately, like most Centrelink schemes, they fed it uselessly incorrect data, blamed the PM (was it Morrison at the time?) and no one has ever done anything about it as far as the poor data handle at Centrelink itself.

[@jeverett0902]

10:26 Krista, I am the same. I often tell people “if this information is important, it better be more than ‘noise in the air’; you need to write it down.”

[@ColJonSquall1]

I guess the system in my area of Ontario, Canada works for cat litter disposal. I just use a tiny recycling bin to carry the clumped litter to either a green waste (organics) bin outside, or (since I get flushable), flush it down the toilet. As we had to give up single use plastics here in Canada. Federal level banned all of it, no more bags, no more straws, granted they still haven't gone after the lids of found drink cups, surprisingly, or the plastic dixie cups yet.

[@dexteritymaster]

Note to Ryan, there are biodegradable trash bags for organic waste and organic cat litter.

[@comesignotus9888]

Talking about Poland and beavers. I admire you self-restraint, as you managed not to mention "Kurwa bober!" meme.

[@matthewstout7974]

It think once it's more than 2 bottles of baby oil.... Costco is suddenly the least of your worries.

[@100daysofmeh]

Human resistance when?

[@Tb0n3]

To be fair to the hacked politician blackface to me is specifically the minstrel show pure black red lips only racist connotations look. It looks to me like he was actually realistically matching actual skin tone with hands. So I wouldn't necessarily say there's anything wrong with it because Robert Downey Jr did the same thing for a whole movie.

[@fabinapham1988]

15:19: off by a factor of a million, rather significant.

[@mindthreatx]

y'all rock, thanks for keeping at it!

[@Jcewazhere]

Cheap way: Sifting litter box, baking soda, and pellet litter from tractor supply or similar stores. $7 per 40 pounds of litter. Con is you scoop daily. Good way: litter robot. $650 for the box, plus ongoing litter and plastic bag costs, buuuut you only have to empty it once a week. I got one about a year ago and it's been awesome. Vintage Story is fun. I can't stand the super-limited inventory though. It's even smaller than Minecraft's already too small inventory. More realistic though. CO has had the no plastic bags thing for a while. I just don't put bags in my bathroom cans. As needed I'll just spray them out with the hose.

[@mathew2214]

IBM has had watson for HOW long and it still cant replace anyone?

[@MG-iu2nn]

Is there a place for patent and copyright in intelligence age? 😊

[@pankothompson5903]

wauw who needs a spooky month every week is a horror when you got security, business and nonsense

[@OLDMANDOM42.Dominic]

Engagement Challenge: Go back to office is fine for us, we only have one day a month. But this was due to them building us a new building and leasing out the extra space. Then they realized they don't have enough room for all of us, so we do the once a month thing. This is just fine with me, as I get to see the team and shoot the breeze for a day.

[@Col_Panic]

I have adapted to/adopted a hybrid approach to learning. Primarily, I prefer to read and read something physical over a screen(E-Paper is OK). I also listen to books, lectures, videos, etc about stuff and absorb as much as possible. Then when I am reading about it, I'll have some connections alreaady made and some idea of what is going on which helps. However, unless I need to see something done, videos are not my favorite source when learning skills.

[@MyLeoOne]

Look up laser rust removal, one of those in the robot dog could take care of the ants pretty fast

[@LeesChannel]

Today I learned that Wendell poops in grocery bags.

[@ericthedesigner]

I can't even finish my coffee and your show is over....

[@deathangel4200]

good morning and have a good day :3

[@seanscott1933]

What makes the baby oil "justification" story even better, from my understanding research was done revealing that Costco does not sell baby oil. LOL. Epic fail.

[@jdp9994]

You've got me curious about what might happen when a black hole jet strikes various types of stars or other matter. But if it was going to hit us, we probably wouldn't see it coming ... just my guess.

[@halfwit2]

I was not affected by RTO, thankfully I've only ever been remote.

[@Bill-lt5qf]

I'm starting to believe that animals can just read signs & have learnt their home address. We always assume something like "strange animal gps" when we haven't really disproven that they are just more intelligent than we think.

[@caspersmith7112]

with P.Diddler, 1000 Bottles is a 2 week SUPPLY

[@beingroomtv]

odd thing, John Oliver made that same joke about buying on bulk in Costco last Sunday. Now, I'm not sure if he was reading the statement or what happened there

[@perforce1]

Ahh yes, I’ll have to…delve in to this episode

[@7shortofperfection]

Funny you should mention fat bear week. You should look up why it was delayed, might make a good story for next week.

[@altimmons]

How could the cat possibly make it home??? Are they sure it wasn’t sleeping under the camper

[@yrsyxhtmfdt]

lvl1 podcast for the real ones

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Hospital could recoup the costs of venting helium by selling it to inflate balloons or something. Why do they vent it, btw, can't they just pump it back into cylinders? Perhaps an infrastructure question, cheaper to vent than to have a pump and gas tanks?

[@Maxjoker98]

27:30 Ah, yes. Fledging, or as we in the Linux business call it: Freeing unused kernel memory(before init).

[@Sommyie]

Level1 makes me happy in the chaos of my life. I need out.

[@who2u333]

I must be rich, I can afford actual trash bags. Killing it!!

[@Trooper_Ish]

with the languages, I was wondering if AI could preserve / maintain / deduce some barely-known / almost lost languages? like, trace back child languages, to propose a possible root language?

[@MaconMedia]

YAAY!!! After a hard week, it's FriYAAYday again!!!!!!

[@deegarkie5598]

I think the milky way is ~90 light years across depending on which points you measure The black hole probably weighs more than 144 thousand milky **weigh** galaxies? I dont know where they got this 144 number in reference to the milky way.

[@seanunderscorepry]

"On the chips that have a lot of cores and v-cache" sounds like someone's been playing with their 9X3D review sample ;^)

[@RedSntDK]

It is "funny" how AI is replacing all the art jobs first, huh?

[@MrToast72]

10:14 Heres a thought, maybe don't force bland drill down students throats and instead taylor it to how the audience understands it? Im currently taking a bachelors in Computer Science and some of the shit we learn, has straight up not been changed since 2001. They also force everyone to memorize concepts and examples that 1. you'll effectively never use again in your life, and 2. are complex and often require learning another concept just to understand what your learning. So maybe its time we move away from the textbooks with bloated word counts and instead start to trim and refine what we teach. We don't have to completely dumb things down, I'm just saying if you can make the same point with less words, then why overcomplicate things.

[@yakill]

13:05 Just go old school and give that robot dog an arm and a magnifying glass.

[@jefferylebowski7355]

I mean, in their defense, delve is a pretty good word

[@drworm-s6z]

23:33 Timberborn called it

[@StoneyKenobi212]

I'd rather read it. I'm right there with ya

[@我的家-j4b]

11:20 theyre trying to make marcus from detroit become human

[@ZeroB4NG]

27:43 CHHHRRRRKK bruh XD

[@francishuang2723]

Company is forcing us to return it office 3 days out of 5. They will dictate what days and what times we come in. Many suspected it is to push many workers to accept the voluntary departure package (by making going to work more troublesome). There is this big push toward oversea call center works and AI (agent now don't need to type anything and asked to proof read what AI has summarize.. yes not word to word, but summarize for you. Unless it is way off, you are *forbidden* to write anything.)

[@personaldronerepair6141]

Hey .....wait a minute......if AI can bring back an art critic, what are the chances of AI being able to bring morals back into this world?

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

I want to have paper bags back. Sick of the plastic bags.

[@xlr555usa]

We should just get rid of the plastic and people should use recycled bags. People need to get off the couch, put in effort and companies need to be disciplined and eventually dissolved. We will not survive if corporations value profit over humanity

[@Kane0123]

When is the channel going to evolve to Level Two?

[@chugs1984]

Its a reference to the iso layers Layer 1 is medium communication in its rawest form is transmitted over

[@goligogo923]

NEVER! ...but I would watch that too

[@Kane0123]

Is it? I always thought level one support

[@scrittle]

We're at DEFCON 1, when we reach DEFCON 5 it's time to sleep in the bunker.

[@phlogistanjones2722]

@@scrittle OHHhhhh.... That's gotta hurt! ....... Thanks for playing though! "It increases in severity from DEFCON 5 (least severe) to DEFCON 1 (most severe) to match varying military situations, with DEFCON 1 signaling the impending outbreak of nuclear warfare. DEFCONs are a subsystem of a series of "Alert Conditions", or LERTCONs, which also include Emergency Conditions (EMERGCONs)."

[@henriqueqc]

Ryan, just be Ryan ❤

[@TheBeefiestable]

The snitchenator version S100 became self aware after its creator started crying. The crying was induced by 47 Billion bees being marked as invasive species. The crying was misconstrued as the creator needing to do too much terminating by its own meat paws. Thus snitchenator created and manufactured Terminator T100 via various holding companies and international war pacts

[@fteoOpty64]

" Cat finding a grenade"....most likely, the cat was dribbling the grenade like a ball , the guy saw it and freaked out!.....{You have seen a cat playing with a tennis ball...}

[@PerpetuallyTiredMusician]

How can something review art if the art cant provoke a emotional response in the reviewer? Pretty sure AI lack the glands for that.

[@noprivacyverner]

they dont sell the baby oil

[@deegarkie5598]

I was affected by return to office They want to give everyone laptops Rotation cost:doubled Rotation time scale:halved(laptops dont last as long) I've brought up[ multiple time this is unsustainable for the 95% of people who dont bring their devices home more than once a year where they could just check them out from IT when they need it. But hey, its better than early covid where everyone had a desktop and a laptop.

[@xlr555usa]

Did the diddler do it and did you do it with diddler?

[@oscarcharliezulu]

How many Milky Way galaxies wide ?

[@OnnieKoski]

Ask the AI which episode of Star Trek majel roddenberry first appeared in.

[@vantadaga]

Yes, AI is actually making people dumber

[@paulgilbert9346]

Fat bear week is already here!

[@koldkustard]

On it early for once

[@Gunni1972]

Why can't we have a Large Language Model for Humans. I mean talk to eachother more? Everything we can clad in language helps us to inform ourselves about something. If we have no time for that, why waste that same time on a computer? That just takes time off our lives. And doesn't solve societal anxiety or has any benefits for our societal/public behaviour.

[@owlmostdead9492]

I don't understand why Wendell is still so bullish on AI.. I'm not a Chef but I can smell something is wrong with the soup.

[@xlr555usa]

Open source AI accessible to all is transparent and has good uses. Will they shut it down?

[@owlmostdead9492]

​@@xlr555usa The industry is betting the house on being able to monetize AI. I don't see that at all, it's fun for non commercial use but legally speaking AI is a nightmare, it's not "enterprise" level at all.

[@noranoxica]

My bf and I echo "Based" on the Vintage Story plug

[@ThisOldChris]

A penguin with American genes

[@tee_es_bee]

2:00 Tech bros with their constant "Tech is only two to three years away." Tiring. Hilarious, but tiring. 3:15 Why does that use case need an " " " AI " " " assistant? 🤦🏼‍♂ 🧡💛🧡

[@Oddsodz]

Robot debt is 'Bender' not paying his bar bill

[@Silly-s8n]

I find it difficult to believe that someone racist will wear black face. What's the thought process there?

[@dallasangler]

Return to office freak here. Love it. I was suffering under a Seinfeldian situational of worlds colliding. Work George and Home George had to square incongruities much much to often. Call me institutionalized I guess.

[@dunastrig1889]

Woot!

[@fteoOpty64]

Robots and nonsense ?!!!.

[@Maxjoker98]

I have no idea what robodebt is, but if I had to take a guess, it's what you get after the bill for trying to create robots using cloud "AI" services.

[@Geo255420]

Gosh you post so early. I would rather watch this in the morning.

[@polyesterbebe]

have a good day