The liberal international order | John Mearsheimer

[@joeymurdazalotmore6355]

This is aged brilliantly

[@Barmall75]

Unnique!!

[@dimitrist1959]

Α22​@@Barmall75

[@asmodeus0454]

This statement ought to read: _"This has aged brilliantly."_

[@IzabelParis]

I can’t get enough of Mearsheimer !

[@julienjeanmuller]

Me neither

[@chrisnamaste3572]

Russian cool aide.

[@AruanDrako]

@@chrisnamaste3572 average liberal order fan

[@neilbohrs5990]

He is leading us to our demise. He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

[@TeeTee-zm2re]

​@@chrisnamaste3572keep sipping in the neo con juice

[@Io-Io-Io]

6:03 Actually no. I always resented how Russia was treated eversince the wall came down and I resented how the USA acted towards the rest of the world, arrogantly claiming they won the Cold War - which they didn't, another Soviet President than the most honorable Gorbachev would never have let the Soviet Union dismantle itself- implementing their way of life everywhere in the western world without asking anyone for their opinion and I thoroughly resented the laments of the Western leaders roling over like chubby dogs waiting to get patted by their master... I genuinely disliked that very much. I hated that unipolarity and I'm actually very glad a multipolarity is in place now. I like negotiation and hate tyranny. Western arrogance and ignorance towards Russia has brought us the ukranian war.

[@cabellones]

his point was exactly that, the west expansion to the east even in protest is what led the russians to this point..

[@Chris-dj5hy]

This is kind of silly. The USSR was stagnating and just treading water by the 1970s. It couldn't go on the way it did. Gorbachev was just a symptom, not the boogeyman

[@igory3789]

@@Chris-dj5hy I disagree with you, I was born in USSR and remember “perestroika” times very well. There were too much talks about reforms by Gorbachev, but in reality the reforms were way too slow to make people believe that something changes. The problem of Gorbachev is that he did a lot on foreign relations and political reforms, but failed badly with internal economical reforms, that is why majority distrusted him. So, basically, he killed USSR himself without even realising it. And up to his death he never admitted that. If Gorbachev would move with the economical reforms as fast as with other reforms, USSR would still remain, it would be another China economically, but more democratic politically. Situation when people receive a lot of political freedoms, but are seriously beaten economically usually leads to countries chaos and break up. Libya is another good example.

[@balozhende5727]

Mearshiemer loves Russia and ao he knocks China. We should be wary of China but Russia is downright dangerous. He is very prejudiced and supports Russia over China. He always made fun of Ukraine's independence. He is just another guy on Putin's payroll.

[@arash8761]

Gorbachev is hated by most Russians.

[@nihar5818]

Sir John, you remind me that days I ve passed. I ve been listening news since 1970 on VOA & then BBC. Your lectures bring that days. I am at 64. Many Thanks.

[@SarahAshelford-o1u]

I’m not sure the BBC would invite John today 😮

[@DIY_versus]

I'm really surprised that when he said if Australia sides with China 🇨🇳 instead of USA 🇺🇸 ,US will point guns at them they laughed

[@LM-ph3cq]

Mearsheimer sounds like a real weirdo when he brags and threatens that the US will treat Australia like a Central American nation - US actions in the western hemisphere have been appalling - nothing to brag about - has he lost his mind

[@punyashloka4946]

@@LM-ph3cq no offense but america is obsessed with creating unnecessary wars which they could have easily avoided.

[@ninav7083]

@@LM-ph3cq He's not bragging, just stating a fact. Stating a fact is not an endorsement.

[@mohameddiallo400]

pretty much embrace proverty.

[@andrewlim7751]

Facts: If the Aussies don't side with China, the Chinese don't give a damn but not siding with u.s. are fatal. Who is the real democracy now?? 😁😁

[@teguhriadi9904]

Brilliant lecture. Bring me a new view on the world order. East Asia is the new battlefield, and Indonesia should be ready for this :))

[@martinlopez4430]

Mearsheimer is right on the money! Professor Mearsheimer offers insight, objectivity and fairness in his lectures. Thank you Prof, Mearsheimer.

[@neilbohrs5990]

He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world ever respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

[@Arimaquinador]

Watching this now and really impressed with the foresight displayed on this presentation.

[@sun4nicolya]

Exactly

[@josephtraficanti689]

The rise of China has a couple corollary that should be noted. The divisions of the American Workers was perhaps due to the shipments of 10's of THOUSANDS OF MANUFACTURING PLANTS TO CHINA. IT IS SAFE BET THAT A SCARCITY OF MANUFACTURING JOBS WAS "NOTICED" BY THE AMERICAN LABOR FORCE. AND THE AMERICAN MANUFACTURING BASE WAS THEREBY HOLLOWED OUT ONE MIGHT SAFELY SAY. WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF YOUNG MEN TAKING ON TENS OF THOUSANDS OF COLLEGE DEBT FOR ENGINEERING JOBS THAT ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE? Might one argue that white men that wanted to get high pay for engineering were a bit upset and went over to the Donald Trump Insurgency Party? And with the reduced income due to flipping burgers in fast food this put a slump in the national debt, not to mention the housing market? We are still not out of this F******* Dislocation in our lives.

[@tonyspalovsky2905]

Very comprehensive and valuable lecture,thank you.

[@everthcruz2950]

Excellent Work By Professor Mearsheimer.... Remarkably Rational And Visionary....!!!!

[@yaniraorellana4756]

The lady asking about agenda 2030 nailed it.

[@Maximilian-Robespierre]

She is a clown. this anticommunst hysteria.

[@DEadSpaCE211]

Yeah John's a bit too old I think for that question. You look at California and the red carpet they through out for Xi and see that some loony lefties and Democrats are in Cahoots , also just look at Canada. There is alot of corruption and Chinese money spilling into the west. Its the long game with them , they'd prefer it that way and not war which is what the west specialises in.

[@sarahjones79]

he put her down 😰 what about billionaires and the UN?

[@parhhesia]

She's absolutely cooked, she's hilarious.

[@pluijm2]

This is so true, John Mearsheimer is right. This is exactly what has been happening.

[@jackliew7993]

I can not believe this speech was 3 years ago. He is a prophet.

[@SarahAshelford-o1u]

What a spectacular speaker. His perspective is very convincing to hear

[@lohisnormalguy9355]

We need to understand geopolitical reality so that we can judge global scenario wisely. Edit: I born in early 90s when liberal international order kicked off after the collapse of Soviet Union.

[@800_k_7]

Prof. John Mearsheimer in describing some of our world turmoil event in recent time, bring him very close to Nostradamus in describing what may happen in Ukraine. I have had good Prof. In politics, economic and others during my lifetime, but honestly speaking, no one comes close to Mr. John Mearsheimer. May God bless Prof. Thank you so much..

[@spadeysay6846]

John Mearsheimer is a white supremacist and a racist. His partisan view of the Ukraine vs Russia, in relation to the national security of Russia, is diametrically opposed to that of the national security of China vs USA and its allies.

[@jons4418]

You’re right, because professor Mearsheimer is an inflexible fool, who believes in an ideology way past its sell by date. International law is much stronger than it was in the 19th century or even the early 20th century.

[@magnaviator]

The biggest fallacy in Mearsheimer's argument is that there is not one, but two declining hegemonic powers. Russia, and the United States. His recommendation of Australia to ally itself with the US presupposes that the US will 1) be able to contain China and 2) maintain it's hegemonic position despite a plethora of domestic issues. So what happens when after tie-ing itself to America's coattails, Australia is dragged down by a declining USA and at the same time, earns the animosity of a gigantic China that is not only much closer to Australia, but just based on demographics, is going to be 3 or 4 times larger than the US, and this discounting any alliance with Russia. It's crazy to recommend that Australia, acting in it's own self interest, should therefore commit suicide by aligning itself with the US and becoming the US's proxy in East Asia. Mearsheimer is right, it is about prosperity and security, but it is far from clear that going with a demented US hegemon will improve either.

[@Grokku.61]

China can't rival American hitech innovation and entrepreneurialism

[@AnneliedeWet]

@@Grokku.61 you are so funny

[@AnneliedeWet]

Well said

[@bhadreshsolanki5505]

👍 👌 well said. Australia needs to think about itself, else just look at Europe today and that will be Australia in the future.

[@ineshvaladolenc6559]

​@@Grokku.61 You're living in 2010. We're now in the year of 2023.

[@aqerke5682]

I adore this Person. I have read most of his works and found a great informations about IR. John Mearsheimer is an remarkable genious and Im so happy that we live in the same time.

[@Ac-ly8tx]

While the lady asked the climate change question, the camera panned the room to show the uncomfortable shifting in seats by all The ideologues! Hilarious

[@davidemmet7343]

Very refreshing to hear from someone in academia who is still rational.

[@azimkhankhanazim6294]

It's a privilege to listen to all of Prof JM talks and the dialogues to the IR issues whether you have a pro or cons of his ideas and thoughts its ok. But it's relevance to be taken and put it on the table is very much a must to discuss.He would be a great statesman in any administration and that's what missing in the US policy decisions. The realpolitik in government.

[@dellachiesa8035]

I think the West should stop depending on the US to be the one championing liberal democracy, it's time for other Western countries to take the lead.I believe America has done it's part.

[@malamati007]

I agree. It's time for Canada to step up, along with Belgium.

[@dex216sims]

No other state has the geopolitical heft that is required to even attempt to engage in that kind of enterprise. If the EU undergoes further integration and turns into a bona fide state, it could attempt that. It would need a significant military buildup though

[@Skanadra]

@@dex216sims I hoped for that, European Russian integration

[@stefamos5188]

America, is noted in the Bible as one of the world powers that will work alongside the Roman church to bring a one world order into existence, it’s been prophesied thousands of years ago. Only a fool would say there’s no God?

[@ninav7083]

Did it ever occur to you that some countries DON'T WANT liberal democracy? What do you do then?

[@paddygoes175]

I´ve listened to a lot of Mearsheimer´s talks on the Ukraine proxy war against Russia, and have appreciated them, but this one was a surprise. He illustrates everything that is wrong with the American view of the world. They need to learn to get on with people, and cut out the paranoia and parasitism. Since WWII they´ve caused havoc and poverty all over the globe. I´d rather take my chances with a multi-polar world, thank you very much. Hats off to Russia for leading the way. Some feisty and realist Aussies in the room, mind. Well done Australia.

[@JCDenton3]

I think he's speaking in character, meaning he's playing devils advocate to explain how the US thinks in terms of geostrategy. I don't believe he thinks it's good or morally right. Like you, I am rooting for Russia, and hope a multipolar world with many poles emerges in the next decade.

[@susanamalnati9712]

Great lecture! Thank you for this privilege to listen to this lecture.

[@neilbohrs5990]

Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise.He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

[@hydrazine19]

Very insightful. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@jackbarnhill9354]

Talk begins at 4:20

[@arbitrarysequence]

Coincidence?

[@view1st]

Two points I'd like to raise. First, when he talks about democracy he's really using the capitalist-corporatist definition of democracy: the imposition of western European, American-led corporate governance on the rest of the world and certainly not about any kind of democracy that would empower the global South by allowing them to exercise meaningful control over their own resources. In this version - so called liberal democracy - electorates have no, or virtually no, effective say in how things are done and exist only to ritually approve whatever has already been agreed upon by those with real power, the owners of concentrated private wealth. Secondly, there is no mention of America's unpayable trillion dollar plus debt problem and the ponzi scheme that is fractional reserve banking using a fiat currency, the United States petrodollar, nor any mention of the banking scam known as the Federal Reserve. When, as many predict, the US dollar loses its reserve currency status and the country in effect becomes bankrupt and suffers hyperinflation, what of all this talk of a world order bounded by the United States of America on one side and of a Chinese (or a Sino-Russian) bound world order on the other; how does America intend to pay for all this when its currency has become worthless and having no consumer-driven manufacturing base to fall back on (having outsourced it and become a services-based economy)?

[@h365h]

John Roberts well said

[@yttean98]

Two good points: Point 1 it's already here, whereas the 2nd pt. may well come true one day.

[@forcedanonymity1791]

Hence the break with Chinese tariffs and the flowing back of manufacturers.

[@KLM738XO]

Gold reserves. The USA has the largest gold reserves in the world at 8000 + tonnes. I believe that the Federal Reserve will be retired, and the US and other countries will go back to gold backed currencies. In that case, Australia will be well placed as the second largest gold producer with the highest individual reserves. www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2018/07/05/top-10-countries-with-largest-gold-reserves/#19b362153349

[@DJRYGAR1]

it is simple - for US democracy is simply a cheap method of control of subordinate countries. It is much easier to control 2 main parties in each country (effectively just top echelons of those parties) and flow of information in main media outlets than keeping everyone under the gun.

[@philipchambers4165]

Immigration was an issue in the Brexit referendum vote in the UK but it was not a major one. The first issue was economics; the second was sovereignty and the third was political elitism. Immigration was a worry but not inter-European immigration. There's been extensive research done on this and it's quite clear. The main worry was immigration from the middle east and Africa and that was more to do with religion than anything else.

[@lynlee6861]

Abd living in terror, and being race washed

[@Dijahtal_Arts_Not_Digital_Arts]

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[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

This is just common sense. In the mid-1930's, my grandfather said that scrap iron we were selling Japan would come back to us in the form of shrapnel. My mother was saying much the same about China in the 1980's. 40 years have gone by, and Washington still hasn't caught on to the fact that China doesn't have our best interest in mine.

[@henrylicious]

Exactly. Western stripped out their own manufacturing centers only to enrich and enable China.

[@ineshvaladolenc6559]

Neither does America about China. China is all about the prosperity of the Chinese people. America is all about its oligarchic elite.

[@AJYahye]

I like this man , because, his finger points 👉 the most 😈 action doing countries, USA EU 70% RUSSIA 🇷🇺 AND AND CHINA 🇨🇳 30%

[@halvardwidere8084]

A remarkable scholar!! He explains the pervasive effects of the liberal international order really well. He uses clear, concise language and irrefutable facts. He has a clear theoretical foundation. (Also, for all conspiracy theorists, he uses zero conspiracy theories - which means that conspiracy theories are not true and he's smart enough to know that :) ) Thank you, professor Mearsheimer!!!

[@vg8y3j70]

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[@neilbohrs5990]

Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise. He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

[@illuminated2438]

Sounds like you've found your God! And, fun fact, countless conspiracy theories are true. Time and time again, it's one of history's most consistent facts. Thus you blind yourself to the truth, and worship authority and distrust what is plainly obvious.

[@oinamthoujal8196]

He is literally saying Australian should be poor under the US military supervision.

[@parhhesia]

Exactly. He came here to threaten us. No American gives a damn about us. We need to stay neutral. He admits himself the USA is incredibly warlike.

[@carlosacta8726]

Prof. John Mearsheimer American Hero!!!!!

[@Dan-sc9lq]

I may not always agree with him but I can always follow his train of thought and understand what he says

[@kwstassikatos2364]

Music to my ears this lecture.

[@spadeysay6846]

Rules based liberal international order!! What an inspiring and glorious invention! But the problem and, in my view, a still born concept because its promoters never really bought into its proclaimed purpose or objective. Especially when it comes to promoting and implementing it to countries which they view should be in desperate need for it. Instead they did the opposite after they bombed, invaded, murdered and overthrew the existing government and systems. The rules based liberal international order has been oversold as an excuse and a red herring to expand the real underlying needs of the capitalistic countries to steal and loot the resources of those countries they have targeted.

[@jt7725]

It is ruler-based order.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

Black or white "diplomacy" at 37:34 ... That's the thing I don't like about the USA, they always do that heavy thing of "YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU'RE AGAINST US!". If not we'll take you out because you must be with the other guy now, with no room for Australian negotiations with other nations when things get difficult for US foreign policy, and regardless of what kind of positive relationship Australia has had with them in the past going back to WWII. I don't like communism or fascism, but threats from "friends" (especially "gorillas" as he calls the USA) sounds weird, especially when you hear it actually said inside your own country from an American. I get that being overtaken by a Chinese military/political power on Australian soil in effect becoming a new southern China province would be the end of Australia as we knew it. Basically it would suck big time. I can't speak Chinese, I don't like Chinese food, don't like Chinese made cars, they do make good underwear at an affordable price though, but we don't need a take over to still have those things. I think that's why Australia chooses the USA when it comes to security, the better known of the three gorillas on the globe, but economically we like China just as much.

[@philipangelo595]

I couldn't agree with you more. The Rules Based Order is based on a Neoliberal economic order which in reality allows corporations and investors to dominate the economy of other nations and plunders their resources and exploits their labor force. The democracy becomes a shame as the powerful dominate the governments. It's been going on in the USA since the Reagan Revolution which destroyed the concept of the government being a countervailing power to the power the power of Wall Street and Corporate America. Billy Clinton got the Democratic party to buy into Neoliberal economic beliefs and our workforce has been crushed and we workers have no political party looking our for our interest.

[@philipangelo595]

@@bradford_shaun_murray Yes, my country, the USA, wants "our friends" to become vassal states and follow our lead with no consideration for "our friends " own national interests. Our leaders have become so arrogant that they act as though our country is God's gift to the world. Our media has become simply a propaganda arm of our leaders as average Americans are getting smacked around also.

[@spadeysay6846]

@@philipangelo595 That is why the United States of America is badly in need of another revolution. The present order isn't going to cut it.

[@bobsingh7949]

John is one of those folks who genuinely wants to share mega-useful understanding / knowledge.

[@JW-ue1xg]

We need to listen to realists like Mearsheimer.

[@sadiawazir-p4k]

i have found john an apt intellectual on international affairs, insightful, daring to challenge the conventional wisdom of America's neocons. He is easily understandable and delivering in a very simple way; he is good in unraveling the guardian's knot.i'm following his insightful and thought provoking lectures while preparing for my competitive examinations.

[@philosophicallyspeaking6463]

And 3 years later the reality is that John was correct; except that he underestimated Russia's (Putin's) resolve and determination to have Russia participate in the future through global significance, and what steps he was willing to take (despite declaring them clearly) to rebuild their brand to once again become something more than the 'worlds gas station' by re-capturing their footprint and population. As a side note, it is significant that this man still feels the need to prostrate himself on the stage of world opinion by distancing himself from association with Trump 'the man' (though not so too his policies), even as he declares that we are advancing irreversibly towards the world that Trump's politics would have 'peacefully' ushered in anyway, only without the obligated and manifest death and destruction. John also misjudged that the obligated political armistice proposed by supposed clear-headed thinking and global economics would not be so astutely recognized or accepted as he thinks, and is therefore too not so imminent. Liberal democracy worldwide is diseased (not at ease) and undermined by affliction with the cleverness of the autoimmune disorders of Cultural Marxism and the Critical Theory. Risk of contracting those debilitating conditions, and the difficulty of recovering from them, is what Russia and China rightfully fear, not liberal-democracy, which itself admits, but very importantly does not obligate post-modernist auto-immune disorder. Having once admitted it, it hides, dormant. You must then fail in healthful diet of reason or risk 'inviting' dormant post-modernist ideology to grow and divide. Once fostered by failure to understand the costs and obligations of Cultural Marxism, it becomes impossible to get 'rooted' Critical Theory ideology out of your communities, your cities, your institutions, your culture and your country by any prescriptive or 'permissible' means, leaving only those drastic and invasive surgical methods (armed conflict) which, in a peace-loving, reasonable world, are rightly held to be impermissible. Witness the Ukraine! Like it or not, this leads you back to the global pursuit of Trumpian-mechanics, and global 'elected' 'nationalism' and rationalism both, instead of the slow obligation of a newly manufactured global stasis that, come to it too little, if not however too late, and only after the fact, is violently imposed on us by delay and collapse of global politics and economics in pursuit of self preservation. This is the promise of the kind of bilateral or multilateral peaceful economic coexistence that John predicts is in our future.

[@joesargent481]

The biggest problem I see in the world besides the fact that they don't try to sit down at the negotiating table is the fact that if one country get strong economically or militarily and does not pose any threat to the world another country wants to start a war change culture and then you wonder why we are at war I don't know if you believe in God but we're in the last chapter of the Bible and whether you believe in God or not this is all going to come to an end because God will not let this happen watch longer he warned us two thousand years ago nothing good coming true in our life time God bless from the USA right and wrong you cannot change people's culture and lifestyle it's not right God bless

[@the1ghost764]

Very True.

[@aquious953]

“Australia has become much more prosperous over the last 20yrs”? Maybe, if your not in the working class.

[@pjhoody]

in the context of IR, he means the state and only the state

[@pmj430]

Nonsense. "Working class" tradies charge more than lawyers and doctors and live in bigger houses. Everyone gets superannuation and on Sundays, waiters earn more than I do as a double quaified professional. My brother's carer (he is disabled) earns as much as I do. So not sure who you mean.

[@aquious953]

@@pmj430 I'm not talking about high skilled trades. I'm not sure sure I can help you if that wasn't obvious.

[@larryphhihds4415]

I'm so happy to have found this video. I was looking for a way to express the thoughts that I have been having, for the last 6-8 years. As I started to see the way things were unfolding in Americaand through America. Thoughts I was trying to put together the things I was seeing, into a cohesive thought. And now I see that I am a neo realist. Lol. i see the world through what I see as being the only reality that can be. To not force a square peg into a round hole. Side note, we, the USA, has squandered away, a real opportunity to have done good for ourselves and the world.

[@octaviomarquez2777]

THANKS VERY GOOD INFORMATION

[@ahsanali-js9fh]

Really remarkable lecture. It makes me understand many things and also clear up my doubts too

[@neilbohrs5990]

Terrible lecture. He will lead us to our demise.He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong. There are many factors leading to our decline. The biggest factor is that we are not socialist enough. Automation, A.I., robotics etc. have destroyed many jobs. This drives down wages until it becomes slave wages. This greatly benefits those who control the means of production but screws everyone else. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy. The richest 400 billionaire families in the US paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. Other country have much higher tax rates and are much happier: Ivory Coast - 60%, Finland - 56.95%, Japan - 55.97%, Denmark - 55.90%, Austria - 55.00%, Sweden - 52.90% and so on. Skyrocketing corporate salaries and bonuses are keeping people poor. Trade with China has been very profitable for the U.S. but the poor never saw a penny from it. Investment firms have turned housing unaffordable leading to crimes and homelessness. The entire health industry is looking to make as much profit as they can. Cities make rules whose sole purpose is to profit off people. Democracy has unfortunately proven to have many flaws. It can easily be bought. It seems designed to get almost nothing done. This is not critical if your country is wealthy, but it has failed many poor countries. All the tiger economies of Asia got their successes during the period when they had a good dictator. When you are poor, you can't afford to be inefficient. Other flaws of democracy includes: the few can take the many hostage(NRA and Christian fundamentalists). It is schizophrenic, with short-term planning that only has profit in mind and not people's well-being being. It is not meritocracy based and stupid people get a say. Stupid people who voted to ignore global warming and voted against socialists policies. Stupid people who elected an unqualified, bombastic politician whose greatest talent is finger-pointing. Multi-party system that has inevitably led to a highly polarized society. Lax drug laws that led to addictions, crimes, and deaths. Endless foreign bases and wars that drain our coffers and turn war mongers into billionaires. Frustrated population with easy access to guns who take their frustrations out on in predictably horrible ways. Echo-chamber free speech that incite hatred and violence to oppositions and scapegoats. Way too many guns on the street making the police trigger-happy. In conclusion, the U.S. has way too many problems that have nothing to do with China. At worst they just hasten our decline a little. Unless we solve these issues, our decline will become inevitable. We need to do some very serious self-reflecting and change our failed policies instead trying to drag other countries down with us. We do not need to play his zero-sum game. There are more than enough resources to go around. We do not need to keep others poor! That will only turn other countries against us. Food production is 20 times more productive than before. Clean energy has become extremely affordable. The future should seem brighter. So why has it not? It is because we are not spreading the wealth. We should look to the Scandinavian countries who are socialist and democratic. We also need to realize that democracy is a luxury that only the wealthy, powerful and secure can afford. The U.S needs to stop trying to keep its unipolar hegemony and stop trying to spread democracy that is keeping poorer countries poor.

[@ahmedabdiisse7512]

This is great professor

[@andrewb8548]

The fact that the late 90's are referred to as "the late 90's peace scare" leads me to believe that the pentagon hates being the unipolar.

[@alexanderpepkin4110]

While answering a question, the professor ruined it a bit for me. Something to the effect of Russia is not a problem, but China is and he hopes for their economy to flatline and decline. So at the end of the day, he is still hoping for the US to dominate and project their power everywhere or what? The problem is not America’s or wests particular ideology (“liberal democracy?”) or economic model. The problem is that when you have absolute unrivalled power, you are bound to abuse it. It’s true in case of leaders of a country and in case of the states as well. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That’s why in case of a unipolar world we would be seeing further meaningless wars (called “just” in the western media) and corruption of international institutions which are supposed to be impartially acting in the interests of all countries rather than selected few. Multipolarity is a true democracy… American led unipolar world is a dictatorship hiding behind “liberal international order” facade…

[@BobQuigley]

Where do we fragile human beings fit in this maelstrom of madness? Where does Earth's systems on which every 'order' breeds fir in??

[@DavidMorley123]

Videographer: Here's a hint. Look at the live audience and watch where they are looking. Normally, this will be on the slides that the presenter is addressing. Only very ccasionally the audience will glance at the lecturer. Please consider us, your viewers, to be like the live audience. Mostly, we should be looking at the slides, and rarely glancing at the person. Otherwise, thanks for a very good presentation. The audio was excellent.

[@christophmahler]

I stretched my neck several times towards the edge of the screen where I expected the slide to show up any moment - while the lecturer was pointing to it. On the other hand, You must admit that Mearsheimer, grining mischieviously and jumping from one side of the podium to the other like 'Rumpelstiltskin' is a sight to behold...

[@normamimosa5991]

Of course, he made the mistake of presenting boring slides that send people to sleep. There should be minimum writing on slides. Just a few points and pictures, with full attention on the speaker.

[@boss390]

He’s telling you what the thesis is, the slides are talking points. Listen to the human!

[@DavidMorley123]

@@boss390 Yes, *listen* to the speaker, but you'll mainly look at the slides. Just watch a live audience some day. Especially when slides have graphs etc, the speaker will be addressing the graphs. If not, the slides are just a distraction.

[@DavidMorley123]

@@christophmahler Sure, if you're interested in the speaker's personality and appearance more than his thesis, then watch him more than his slides.

[@sun4nicolya]

He is the most powerful thinker in the United States, maybe in the world.

[@sassone5106]

But does this so called it for international order ever existed when Countries were burning to ground? Your global order dragged billions of people in the world down to the hell.

[@4otko999]

i think the biggest mistake is to think that liberal democracy is unconditionally good. liberal democracy can sail to the coast of Syria, fire missiles and sail away, or engineer a war in Ukraine. or maybe "liberal democracy" isn't a correct term to describe what is going on here. 37:35 "if you go with chinese then you are our enemy and we're going to put our gun sights on you", this is not quite liberal or democratic.

[@sapere7]

Oui, excellente remarque.

[@Ac-ly8tx]

“We’ve had our back broken on the rack of climate policy” INDEED!!

[@anaignatowicz2779]

what a smart man. Treasure

[@arinadrobot3480]

26:50 loved it

[@arinadrobot3480]

29:53 this video is amazing

[@k54dhKJFGiht]

I've never heard anyone describe this better!

[@alexriverson2419]

I love Prof. Mearsheimer. This man is a true intellectual. I feel like I'm a realist whenever I listen to him. This was a very informative lecture and I love the energy and smile of the prof.

[@stephensuddick1896]

"I could go on and on", and unfortunately he did. The world has always been bi-polar. And it has always failed to take it's medication. Good luck humanity.

[@andrewnelson3725]

This isn't the first time I've listened to John in such agreement, just to be surprised that its years old !

[@neilbohrs5990]

He wants to keep China poor? He said this in a public lecture that is being viewed by the world? How can the world ever respect us if this is the message we send? Playing a zero-sum game and keeping the rest of the world poor will not solve our problems. Blaming China for our problems is childish, dangerous and wrong.

[@maxstone6117]

@@neilbohrs5990 He cares about the American Hegemony and only that. Is keeping China poor more sinister than bomb weddings in Iraq and steal oil in Syria, and propping up banana republics? Who is going to say "well that's wrong"? Remember if things goes his way and kept China poor, there won't be a China to rival America economically, which turns into funding Russia.

[@arjalanarayan]

Yes

[@TheRebbesUkulele]

A very formidable lecture with fascinating readings of history and politics. However, I will point out that the lecture contained a fair amount of speculation, opining and "lensing." His point-of-view is a possible interpretation of events as they unfolded and will unfold, but it is not necessarily THE interpretation that in fact played out and will play out. I was born and raised in the USA and lived in China for many years. Since then I have lived in the Middle East. Merely living in places can only really inform one anecdotally and "zeitgeistfully"---so I must expand and say that I also studied in depth the political ideologies and current events of the era superpowers. What is happening now is actually not so clear, despite the black and white presentation of this lecture.

[@Lukas-kv7nq]

Great speach

[@kitfattorini8779]

Most interesting information….!!!

[@helenmalinowski4482]

I love Mearsheimer. Can we have him back? .. or someone of his ilk?

[@dougspray7160]

The speaker said he wants the Chinese economy to slow down and the American economy to grow and grow.Wow.So he wants 340 million Americans to prosper and 1.4 million Chinese to descend into poverty. What's his view on world poverty? China in the last 40 years has lifted more people out of poverty than Western Capitalism has since it's beginning. Is this not an admirable achievement by the Chinese ? Can the planet successfully survive continuous growth Consumerism which has brought the Planet to its present fragile state of global warming? American society with its racism and violence, it could be argued second rate constitution and politically appointed Supreme Court is not a good model to recommend to the rest of the World. Our Free Market system wants reigning in with international ratifiication by all countries of laws regarding Tax Havens, limits of Individual wealth, companies to not primarily operate for profit only but with obligations for the welfare of the Planet and abolishing poverty.

[@nahumhabte6210]

Listening to this in 2023 makes me amazing

[@beezeyreezey6522]

I was completely absorbed by this talk! Shaking my head at the woman who went on a rant(as much as i sympathize to a certain extent) but I otherwise enjoyed every single moment. Great speaker, great topic, and it seemed to be presented as neutrally as possible.

[@michaelutech4786]

"Goal during the cold war: Spread Democracies" - Really? South Korea might count. Everywhere else the USA seems to have favored dictators over democracies.

[@ElwoodAndersonNV]

A great presentation with one flaw! At 45 minutes into this presentation, the flaw in Mearsheimer's realism was exposed. Success in the multipolar world will require that countries demand to remain independent and not aligned with a major power. If they don't we will simply be where we were in the cold war, just with a different player, China instead of the USSR. And, there will soon be another war of sorts to decide the winner. You can see where having to choose between one bully or another leads, from what is happening in the US. The powers that be have decided that you must be a Democrat or a Republican or you will have no influence on your government. So what do we have, a bickering uni-party that fast becomes a war party that convinces us to choose one side or the other in the world order? This allows no room for personal identity and national identity, just more conflict at all levels. Most of the world rejects this premise. Mearsheimer is wrong when he says India is in the America camp. They are doing their utmost to remain independent, as is Australia and most countries in other continents. Even Russia would be independent if the US wasn't driving them into the arms of China. A new mindset is needed in the future, one of cooperation, respect, and negotiation that allows countries their own identity, dignity, and the right to select their government of choice. That is what will create a better and more lasting future with less conflict.

[@abdulaiyakubu7942]

Their dependence on the PetroDollar is getting weak

[@juanluistostadocanales3955]

That is right Professor

[@danieladdison6982]

32:03-32:53: "The Fukuyama thesis was wildly attractive to most people in West... because we had come to believe that we won the cold war because we were liberal democracies, that was a superior system. And we had defeated fascism in the early part of C20, Communism in the 2nd part OF C20, THOSE WERE THE TWO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES, but they proved not to be viable alternatives, and THERE REALLY WAS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE, and as Fukuyama argued, it'd be easy to promote democracy around the world because it was the only meaningful option." Unless of course there is another alternative - what we might call a Fourth Political Theory. Should we listen to the man articulating and evangelizing for the Fourth Political Theory and whispering its sweet nothings into Putin's ear? Naa, let's ban his books. Because we're the West and we know best, and it's not like we've ever been wrong before.

[@danieladdison6982]

If you've read Dugin, you'll hear John M's statement like this: 'the most fundamental implicit belief responsible for the (failing/failed) geopolitical strategy of the United States since the end of the cold war is, 'A Fourth Political Theory is not Possible.'

[@christophmahler]

Why don't You just paraphrase Dugin's view, instead of mere teasing and 'name-dropping'. *Eurasianism* is not quite like _porn_ , is it?...

[@bruceadam5632]

democracy is the only meaningful option? R U serious.

[@michaelutech4786]

"Goals: Institutions" - Was that really a goal? The USA never wanted to submit to institutions. Given the choice between mutual exploitation with China, institutions were nominally supported, but not really seriously enforced or even only supported.

[@lesliesepssy9222]

To finish off my comment's below, I am a Transylvanian Székely Magyar, a Nobel race even today, and that, I am most proud off!

[@artvandelay7236]

"liberal international order" means Western hegemony.

[@normamimosa5991]

Ouch! Your thinking is completely upside down. The progressive, globalist liberals of today are not classical liberals. They are contra Western hegemony and are behind one of the largest ethnic cleansing movements taking place today.

[@barumbadum]

Thanks for this great lecture... I would have loved to see more young people (students) in the audience. This realist thinker must serve and be inspiration for new generations of theorists of IR.

[@laluna5548]

I am 22 and watching

[@curtd59]

OMG. Russia and China can allocate more resources to political, military and strategic ends than western (european, american, australian) peoples can. This is the 'power' of authoritarian regimes in a world where economic and technological differences have been limited by cross pollination. Europe, Australia, and Canada are toothless. American high risk wealth production, and returns on investment in technological military innovation provide economic advantage, but china has more population and can devote more of it to research and development under authoritarianism than we can under market competition and liberalism.

[@politmediter]

Wow! What an excellent analysis!

[@patrickvernon2749]

If liberalism isnt totalitarian then why is there no Academic circles outside of the Liberal consensus? Why is policy, media, and acadamia so ideologically uniform?

[@JohnMinehan-lx9ts]

Democracy might be the only workable system, but there are many ways to organize a democracy. Markets work (they are perhaps the only thing that can) but the role of the state can (and does) vary in successful systems..

[@Hassan_Rajput_PAS]

What Kind of Orders Will Prevail in the Future? The Coming Orders Somewhat similar to the Cold War orders, but different in some important ways. 1. Realist international order 2. Chinese-led bounded order 3. US-led bounded order A thin international realist order for collaboration on transnational concerms like Climate Change, proliferation

[@Hassan_Rajput_PAS]

The foundational premise posits that the inception of the liberal international order coincided with the denouement of the Cold War in 1990, heralding an era of unipolarity where the United States assumed preeminence as the singular hegemonic force orchestrating its establishment. Despite an auspicious trajectory during the nascent stages throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, the fabric of this order ultimately frayed, succumbing to the inexorable march of two formidable forces: the incubation of its own demise within its structural confines and the ascendancy of China alongside the reawakening of Russian might. This argument illuminates the intricate tapestry of global dynamics, highlighting the nuances of power dynamics and the intricate dance of geopolitics upon the world stage.

[@Ac-ly8tx]

Cosa Nostradamus called it!!!

[@DemonetisedZone]

When i was watching this i assumed this was made a few months ago. John has been on the money with his stuff for years and USAs saber rattling over Taiwan shows how almost prophetic he when it comes to power politics

[@Rainstorm121]

Some years after this lecture and Many of his lectures Ukraine war today AUKUS invented today where Australia will pay $3 billions plus for nuclear submarines. This man is a prophet in international relations and politics.

[@Hassan_Rajput_PAS]

What is International Order 3:18 Order Order is a cluster of instructions where rulebased order or rules are embedded in instructions Great powers create and manage international order. 4:08 International Order - include all of the world great powers. Bounded Order - 4:42 What is a Liberal International Order? 5:30 Dominant state is liberal democracy 5:12 Goals of ILO Spread LiberalDemocracy Around the World5:39 6:02 Open International Economy 6:16 6:32 Integrate States Into More and More Institutions- Go from GATT to WHO.

[@ahmadhassan1483]

Professor loves his job 😂

[@fannybirot2362]

I am Chinese and I must say I fully understand Prof. Mearsheimer's view, although I don't agree that this has to be a zero-sum game for other countries. America wants it to be a zero-sum game because it's in America's interests, but all the other countries have their own interests. The US is very powerful but if it puts guns on everybody to force them to choose sides, the US should be worried.that most of them will not agree with that, openly or secretly. Actually I see a world of diversity, every country respect each other to some extend, big or small, rich or poor, instead of having the US dictatoring every other country. Enough is enough. Also I don't believe China will become a hegemony like the US, because it's a western thing. Chinese culture has been thounsands of years about harmony and mutual respect and.common prosperity. Conflict is the least thing the Chinese people want.

[@WisnuAthena]

I am Indonesian. We have lived with China for thousands of years. We never feel threatened. Just trade trade trade. No need to pick sides…

[@paulfri1569]

​@@WisnuAthena Haha you good little dog 🐕. No wonder Indonesia to is getting screwed by Red China in the corporate world in Indonesia..

[@yasminea7149]

Exactly, he's taking usual US dominance and painting everyone as enemies. Also, rise of BRICS.

[@itachiuchia6588]

Recorded in 2019 makes more sense even in real tume *2023*...

[@asmodeus0454]

Once more, Johnnie Mearsheimer hits the nail on the head with this speech.

[@vincewhite5087]

The Afghans beat the USA with a few AK 47’s , RPGS, walk-in talkies & a few goats. Beat the Afghan USA TRAINED & equipped military, in weeks.

[@shepherdsknoll8]

Interesting definition of world order but I would say the definition is that of the speakers and not universal.

[@lynlee6861]

I think hes spot on, and i have just recently heard another speaker saying the same thing

[@spadeysay6846]

You pointed out something that either everyone has been ignorant of, dismissed as irrelevant or deliberately ignore it as it would render their argument untenable. It is mostly hubris that these " liberal international order " advocates argued that is the only acceptable system for the world to progress and prosper. We now know for a fact that it isn't so.

[@shepherdsknoll]

@@spadeysay6846 , I’m not a Trump fan but he did point out a variation of “liberal international order”. The U.S. started down a path of isolationism. Trump showed that we could simply take our ball and go home.

[@hansjohanoei5627]

If you talk to older 60st generation Mearshheimer is right, but This generation is over..

[@joshntn37111]

What a respectful guy. Wish everyone does lectures like these.

[@JanRoman119]

I don’t think that the US was interested in spreading “liberal democracy”. It was always interested in benefiting economically based on this international order. 9:16

[@TimothyFarris-ep1js]

Thank you Sir.😊

[@bhajandaniel9771]

The US has never been interested in spreading democracy but it has been interested in spreading capitalism. Don't confuse the two. They're so often confused.

[@PrettyGoodLookin]

Oh contraire. The Liberal Democracy is very close to what Hillary Clinton constantly talks about.

[@FreePalestine11]

Very informative.

[@jameswhitfield1375]

A teacher in every respect. Thank you, John.