The Life and Times of John Brown

[@iammrbeat]

I recently had the opportunity to stand on John Brown's nose: kzbin.infoNED1G4aaFjI

[@Black_Caucus]

THE DISRESPECT 🤯😰

[@zakkart]

I think the correct term is freedom fighter, literally fighting for the freedom of people forced into a brutal system of oppression.

[@jeffslote9671]

No,terrorist is correct. Using violence for political change and to sow fear is the dictionary definition of terrorism.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah, that's what Grady told me, and a lot of folks in the comments have been using that term.

[@StefanMilo]

@@iammrbeat wasn't he correct though? That violence was required to end slavery.

[@luddity]

Unless backed by a gov't, in which case it becomes part of the war effort, like the French Resistance.

[@jeffslote9671]

@DayStar 37 Correct. Calling him a freedom fighter is going down a slippery slope. If Brown is a freedom fighter why not Eric Rudolph? Both held moral objections to legal activities. If freeing slaves is just why not stopping the murder of the unborn?

[@KenLuciano300]

As a black man I’ve never been more proud of American history John brown was truly amazing

[@dominiquebender3788]

Bottom line: This history MUST be common knowledge. Not all "White people" are racists. Hundreds of thousands of "white" people fight against this scourge this sickness is the past way back to Egyptian times up until today. WHO benefits from Idenity Politics....these SAME Democrats that wanted slavery. WHO invented this term "White privilege " It's a Satanic backwards speak. Black people take this term in without it's connotations. The connotations is that whites are bad but just say the term without connotation: Whites are privileged Aka better This is Democrat Devil speak

[@uuurettererreeeer]

@@dominiquebender3788 Shut the fuck up

[@ethanpappas2502]

@@dominiquebender3788 the south was democrat(no this isn't Hidden knowledge, its widly taught that the south was demacrat) However, it was defiently VARY conservative in ideals just like it is now. Abe lincioln and the republicans of the time were considered the radical liberals. Wethather its been republican or demecrat, the souths always been evil. Deal with it.

[@dominiquebender3788]

@@ethanpappas2502 Deal with what? What I DO NOT accept is how the Left hides history to thrust their identity politics. How come most voters don't know that Kamala Harris is from a lineage that owned slaves? AND she's not black American! But she USES that and it's not true. If the left wants to get all up in the stupidity of identity politics then you can't cherry pick. Bidens lineage also owned slaves! How come that's never brought up??? Oh and there's that little relationship that Biden had with the KKK member Senator Bryd...again never brought up BUT GAUD FORBID Joe the plumber whose lineage NEVER owned slaves votes for Trump...Oooo nooo!!! He's a racist!!! This mentality in not only foolish and misguided; it's destroying our country.

[@nescius2]

@@dominiquebender3788 well, your political spectrum is from right to far right, there is nothing ..left. you dont even do social distancing because it smells of socialism... i find it demented, such fear of an idea which you likely never actually listened to..

[@lostchild1809]

Any Man willing to sacrifice his life for freedom is a hero to me

[@julianmarsh1378]

And to kill people not directly involved? Still a hero?

[@lisah_98]

@@julianmarsh1378 yes

[@julianmarsh1378]

@@lisah_98 You live in the wrong country.

[@wabalaladabdab]

@@julianmarsh1378 yes, still a hero.

[@maverick6775]

@@julianmarsh1378 collateral damage, dont we freaking bomb villages to get one targeted terrorist???

[@wyattbrown9622]

John Brown is a personal hero of mine. The man saw a wrong that didn’t affect him and yet he decided to take his sons (not only himself) to rectify the situation and died fighting for a good cause.

[@calundoconteal6851]

I would argue it did affect him, because it was an institution sucking the life out of a country, holding it back from true progress, of which after was thrown away allowed the country to come to its own

[@l.holbach5696]

The last american hero.

[@sunnex474]

@@l.holbach5696Roosevelt

[@tomace4898]

"If John Brown were still alive, we might accept him." -Malcolm X, when asked if white people could join the Organization of African Unity

[@ethanpappas2502]

John Brown is such an underappreciated figure in American History. His actions were violent, yes, but he showed that, unlike even Abe Lincoln, he wasn't the slightest bit racist whatsoever, and ultimently, died fighting for another freedom. Harriet Tuman actually called him "The greatest white man to ever live" and said he did more to end Slavery then Lincoln did.

[@LordMalice6d9]

I'm not "white" I'm beige. So I'm good.

[@user-ni7ui1nk8p]

Oh come on, might? Granted, it was probably said jokingly.

[@johnbrown9815]

Only if we were smart. Remember,

[@johnbrown9815]

Remember there were several factors which weighed on the severity and timing of a response to slavery . Imagine for a moment that you were a hostage in bondage being treated like an animal. Trapped, trapped, tortured and seal team six was on their way to get you out. Would you A) try to wave them off and tell them no don't kill anybody OR B) would you want them eliminate everybody at once and get you out safely from a foreign land on a distant hostil continent.

[@justinb864]

Nothing John Brown did was more violent than the institution of slavery. He was a hero.

[@hoodieplays2996]

John Brown > Joe Biden and Donald Trump

[@sandrastreifel6452]

That’s true. John Brown’s use of military force to end slavery was confirmed necessary, by the US Civil War.

[@carboardpickaxe6615]

Or the countless slaughters of the American Indians

[@spacix4118]

@@hoodieplays2996 No shit LMAO

[@melindaturner2527]

Absolute truth!

[@d16024]

Everyone’s talking about how John was a hero but actual heroes were his parents who taught him slavery was evil and abhorrent

[@electricpants8194]

If his parents were racist then history would be more sad.

[@kaysi768]

he did something about it

[@the2ndcoming135]

@@kaysi768 right. This is about John Brown putting in the work. Not his parents teaching him that n-words aren’t inferior😂

[@tesmith47]

Some others also thought it was bad..............BUT HE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

[@Tiazdshit]

Preach

[@davidthedegenerate7841]

Terrorists can be heros if they're terrorizing villains

[@chrisa2612]

Lol

[@the2ndcoming135]

When you already know your granddaddy’s friend pull up game stay diesel, plus you’re always welcome to some fresh lemonade at his pad, because he stay hitting at 9,🍅🍅🍅 off the rip😎

[@the2ndcoming135]

@C R no I’m not homosexual, man. But, I won’t judge you if you are.

[@zzyzx0788]

Hey man, nobody thinks Batman is a terrorist

[@tesmith47]

Like America

[@fionaw96]

He is a hero and everybody should learn about him. “I have only a short time to live, only one death to die, and I will die fighting for this cause. There will be no peace in this land until slavery is done for. “- John Brown

[@the2ndcoming135]

Precisely. Everyone should learn from him. Not just ADOS. He pretty much proved why segregation is counterproductive. It didn’t work for Harriet, Fredrick Douglas, or him. You need allies from outside your group as a go-between. That way you got way more reach with your arms.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Unfortunately now the black community needs to be saved from itself you know I'm right.

[@worlore1651]

He’s a terrorist

[@marcusbrown7817]

Amen💪🏾🖤 I got your back John!!

[@DugrozReports]

"Allright, John ... which slave-owning state do you want to raid?" "Uh . . . all of them?"

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this fantastic hero of our buried hidden history kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

😂 correct

[@theghostbeeyt2181]

He raided raid shadow legends

[@rickeybernard8156]

@@theghostbeeyt2181 😂😂😂

[@chairmanoftheboard11]

😂😂😂

[@FirstLast-qf1df]

12:50 "Violence isn't the way to end slavery". Six years later slavery is ended with violence.

[@carlabeckford6021]

Slavery never ended

[@allensneed7062]

Carla Beckford Could you elaborate?

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

@@allensneed7062 The 13th amendment reads as follows: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, *except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted*, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Notice that exception there?

[@rikk319]

@@jeffersonclippership2588 That first comma was removed later...the movement to remove it and clarify the law is an interesting bit of history.

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

@@rikk319 Honestly can't tell how that makes it different

[@mistahanansi2264]

"He was too extreme and this was not the way to end slavery, man..." - Those who were proven by history to have been wrong

[@Illumirage]

Imagine thinking you could kill whoever you disagree with.... The tolerant, inclusive left....

[@bjarkiengelsson]

​@@IllumirageImagine thinking tolerance of evil is acceptable lmao. Braindead right wingers

[@johnbrown9815]

What are you talking about? So you're saying that rape torture murder should not elicit violence?

[@johnbrown9815]

Would you suggest they call their local representative. Slaves that is. 😂

[@Memelord1117]

@@johnbrown9815 He means armed conflict. I.E, the civil war.

[@markjones8745]

Hero. I Don't even have to watch to answer that question. He was a hero

[@vcowherd39]

I agree🖤

[@cxarhomell5867]

I'd beg to differ. Both sides were fucking drenched.

[@balrogdahomie]

It does depend on how you define the terms. If your term for terrorist is broad enough to include “anyone who attempts political change through the use of intimidation and terror”, you could conceivably argue he was a terrorist- just one that happened to terrorize disgustingly racist shitheels. Of course, that doesn’t really make him any less of a hero. It would just mean that he’s both a terrorist, and a hero.

[@preppychrisbou]

Absolutely

[@iananderson5050]

@@balrogdahomie that's a very interesting way of looking at him. Thank you for the insight. Though I would say that if people define terrorist by the more modern terminology (as many Lost Causers do) which usually includes inflicting the largest amount of emotional and psychological damage possible, Brown did not meet that. He spared family members of some of those he killed even though they could identify him and his sons. If he had wanted to spread terror as we know it today he likely would have killed the families as well, and acting even less restrained than he did.

[@picklesthewise]

When you are fighting against something as wholly evil as slavery, you must take action. John Brown saw what needed to be done and was not cowardly enough to leave it to gradual incremental change in government when there were literal lives being lost. We take our lessons from him today, whether we know it or not.

[@lightningbolt4419]

He ultimately hurt the abolition movement though, he allowed the south to portray abolitionists as terrorists.

[@sandrastreifel6452]

@@lightningbolt4419 “Terrorist” was not a word in use then, but the institution of slavery certainly qualifies!

[@lightningbolt4419]

@@sandrastreifel6452 you know what I mean

[@sandrastreifel6452]

@@lightningbolt4419 Abolitionists were considered criminals, by slaveholders, long before John Brown. He precipitated the Civil War, which freed the slaves. You need really twisted logic to portray freeing human beings as “bad”.

[@lightningbolt4419]

@@sandrastreifel6452 never said that, but it helped the poor southerners see abolitionists that way and John brown never really helped anyone in the long run

[@democraticlibertarian6276]

This PROVES that even THEN people knew what was happening was WRONG

[@chillcapybaracitrus]

The argument that values in the past were different is ridiculous. We didn't grow morality overnight.

[@Leo7s1822]

and they did something THEN

[@MrCmon113]

There is advocates against slavery as far back as antiquity. It's just that monetary incentives and religion powerfully protected a behavior that is obviously immoral.

[@miket2951]

@@chillcapybaracitrus exactly, we developed our ideas or morality and ethics over time, trial and error , experimentation - so... the values in the past were indeed different ...

[@chillcapybaracitrus]

@@miket2951 Lmao, read my comment again. On the contrary. People have been against slavery and genocide for a long time just like everyone knows that murder is bad. People didn't just wake up in 1865 and thought: Oh slavery and hurting people bad. The abolitionism movement has existed for a long time. Those who participated in it knew it was wrong. They chose to keep doing it because it was very profitable. When I say that morals didn't grow overnight, I mean that morals have existed far longer than you think. Whether this all happened centuries ago, they were still garbage people.

[@markbryant3822]

Hero, he was the real deal. Dude was unapologetically anti slavery and didn’t mince words. He did what he had to do

[@hjj9269]

I ain’t even American, but this is the definition of a goddamn hero.

[@dontcopymystyle4469]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@julianmarsh1378]

Encouraging mass murder is your definition of a 'goddamn hero' in action?

[@hjj9269]

@@julianmarsh1378 If the people that are gonna get murdered are slave owning, violent, racist, evil bastards, then yes. And if in the process of that, plenty of slaves get granted their freedom, then that’s even better.

[@julianmarsh1378]

@@hjj9269 and if it is their wives and kids? You are a wonderful person.

[@hjj9269]

@@julianmarsh1378 Thank you. You too. 🥰

[@poi2lkj3mnb]

When the law is unjust resistance to the law becomes a duty,. Rest in power John Brown

[@randomuser5443]

It is our duty to rebel against the shit laws of the state. Says so in the constitution and why the 2 amendment is here

[@macvena]

Resistance doesn't mean arbitrary murder of any luckless soul in the path.

[@macvena]

@@randomuser5443 obviously you've never actually read the Construction. You're think of the Declaration of Independence. This suggests you're don't do the hard work of thinking things through and realizing you sound like reckless extremist. Check yourself.

[@quinnnosbod3673]

@@macvena Do you know what the 2A is about?

[@jish55]

@@macvena it does when the powerful are no longer bound by the law we the people are supposed to all be bound by. When a judge let's a rapist go because he's "a good kid", the judge is not fit to decide a person's fate. When a police officer kills innocent people (because they were not given due process, so they were not given the chance to be found guilty), then the police officer can no longer be allowed to wear that badge and uniform. When society refuses to punish the politicians who willingly let people die for their own self greed, where the "justice" system doesn't even hold them accountable, it is the duty of the people to step up and deal with them permanently.

[@664theneighbor5]

In my opinion, John Brown had the right idea for ending slavery. Way better than the civil war.

[@weldin]

But the civil war wasn’t about ending slavery. It was started because the South didn’t want Lincoln to take away their slaves (put extremely simply). Eventually it became about ending slavery for the north but that was not an initial goal.

[@664theneighbor5]

Cinestar Productions True

[@iammrbeat]

Meaning just try to free the slaves, don't get everyone else in the South involved unless they get in the way?

[@iammrbeat]

​@@weldin True that. The Emancipation Proclamation was strategic. Lincoln knew it'd be a good move to win the war.

[@Limpshot_McGee]

What was the Civil War but a larger version of what John Brown did?

[@Hi.Jay.Low25]

John Brown was Based. Rest in Power, King!

[@davidkoralov3529]

"They hanged him for a traitor, themselves the traitor crew. His truth keeps marching on."

[@michaelpalmieri7335]

"His truth keeps matching on." That's almost like one of the lyrics from the song "John Brown's Body": "John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave, His truth goes matching on." The melody of "John Brown's Body" (which may have been borrowed from a religious hymn called "Brothers, Will You Meet Us") was later used by the Union army during the Civil War in the song "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic."

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this fantastic hero of our buried hidden history kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@str.77]

@@TheDirtyBlondeDon So he fought slavery and supported an ideology that after a few decades installed even worse forms of slavery and played the theme song of a totalitarian, oppressive regime that committed the first genocide in modern history. Sounds like a "great guy".

[@seanbeadles7421]

@@str.77 LOL the French did the first modern genocide???

[@str.77]

@@seanbeadles7421 Yes, they did if you let modernity begin with the French Revolution. The Highland Clearances were still pre-modern, the Vendée was modern. Just because modernity later produced genocides that even more horrendeous doesn't negate that.

[@KristianWontroba]

If anything, he was a Civil War hipster: He was into fighting the Civil War before it was cool.

[@lonestarreactor1554]

Lmao. That is actually a good description

[@Aloemancer]

“I don’t enjoy killing, but when done righteously it is a chore, like any other.”

[@TheMidtownPookiee]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥FUCKING RIGHT!!!!

[@another_random_ace8820]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter,

[@ramonmartinsoto3717]

We cannot expect god to do all the work

[@sneedfeedandseed2410]

the time for talking is over, the lords work must be done.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this fantastic hero of our buried hidden history kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@Mercwithamouth101]

Fun fact: Ulysses S. Grant’s father worked as a Tanner for John Brown’s father. The man who helped start the Civil War has a connection to the man who helped end the Civil War.

[@knightlife22]

🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥 that’s crazy

[@crockstonyt]

Just like how John Wilkes Booth's brother, Edwin Booth, saved Abraham Lincoln's son Robert Lincoln from being run over by a train car It's a small world

[@Brandalf_The_Grey]

Yup! www.nps.gov/articles/000/ulysses-s-grant-s-connection-to-john-brown.htm

[@avenaoat]

Grant's father was ABOLUTIONIST. Grant's wife came from a slave holder family, but his father's effect was Grant freed his SLAVE!

[@letitiajeavons6333]

America was a small world back then.

[@letusplaydarts]

Compared to the horror he was fighting against, he was a hero and a legend.

[@shoother2257]

Dude drags entire families including children out of their homes amd kills them but yeah he's totally morally correct. You people see issue's in entirely black and white and it shows

[@LuckyHicks2]

That's sort of my viewpoint, as well; No matter how much I might emotionally flinch at violence, the sheer unflinching nightmare that is the institution slavery utterly dwarfs the actions of any one man.

[@jdubbjazzbass]

As a black person,I would have literally given my life for him in an instant!!!!.........

[@alundavies8402]

And as a little cockney Geezer I would back you up and we could go out with a bit of a bang

[@aufgehts5]

And he would have given his life for you and the freedom of all.

[@2beawareis2know]

💯

[@gykeewheeler2015]

As a black person myself, I agree

[@Huckle15]

Not FOR him.. WITH him. For the cause of freedom.

[@tomasoubina7352]

He was a hero. His soul goes marching on.

[@Darkwindowtint8389]

Damn right!

[@dwklkk5241]

John Brown ily

[@blacklambcta4271]

John Brown lay moulding in the grave but his soul goes marching on

[@KaikanoSei]

As it burns forever in hell.

[@therabbi9848]

Glory Hallelujah

[@SwoleSorcerer]

This dude is one of my favorite American historical figures. He seriously deserves a holiday or a statue in DC at the bare minimum.

[@tesmith47]

Dan good idea

[@Brap-pl2me]

We don’t need any more holidays lol. There’s a huge mural of him in the Kansas statehouse

[@bjnt92281]

I often wondered what it would be like if time travel existed and we took back modern weaponry to John Brown and his crew, trained them how to use them, and assist him on his goal of invading every plantation and freeing every slave.

[@markhill3285]

There is an alternate history book called "fire on the mountain" that takes place in a world where his revolution succeeded

[@petej7002]

Might be a little insensitive but id say whats the rush slavery would be over in 6 years. If it wasn’t for the butterfly effect i might tell Brown to chill out. In the event that he was successfull with his raid i think even the most liberal whigs at the time would take issue with a Black Republic or even Usurper Blacks IN the Republic. Best case scenario they give us an Independent state in Mexican territory with likeminded abolitionist to not affect current US political balance. I believe they would then do us like France did Haiti. Force the new nation of 4 million slaves plus abolitionist to pay reparations or face economic sanctions/Invasions . We had 8 times slaves the amount of haiti and they didnt pay their debt until the 1940s so that billions of dollars that probably wouldn’t be paid off until the 21st century 😢 . Effectively a slave country for another 150 years.

[@Ralphueyyy0510]

Just send the modern weapons to the Union so the war won't last long

[@bjnt92281]

Now that I’m thinking about this, one would have to consider what kinds of modern weapons they would get as well. For example it probably wouldn’t be a good idea to give them nuclear weapons, missiles and rockets because we don’t need have the country blown to bits. Now AK47s, sniper rifles, glocks would be okay. Maybe even tanks.

[@ohthemadam8290]

@@Ralphueyyy0510 Well, to be fair, they only signed the Emancipation Proclamation because the war was taking so long

[@alexthelizardking]

"I, John Brown, dedicate myself to the destruction of slavery." "Sir, this is a McDonalds drivethrough."

[@ricardobarahona3939]

“Wage slavery” 🤷‍♂️

[@matthours1783]

@@ricardobarahona3939 harper’s ferry but it’s a yacht

[@the2ndcoming135]

Yeah, but your soft serve machine is broken and only serves vanilla🤷🏽‍♂️

[@samuelfraley8737]

“I John brown am now certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood.”

[@nowhereman6019]

"Yes, and in here to free you."

[@bran9067]

There was also a song written about him called "John Brown's body" which would be the basis of "The battle hymn of the Republic" and other songs. one variant of the song goes: "John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave But his soul goes marching on The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down The stars above in Heaven are looking kindly down On the grave of old John Brown Glory, Glory, Hallelujah Glory, Glory, Hallelujah Glory, Glory, Hallelujah His soul goes marching on He captured Harper's Ferry with his nineteen men so true He frightened old Virginia till she trembled through and through They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew But his soul goes marching on Glory, Glory, Hallelujah Glory, Glory, Hallelujah Glory, Glory, Hallelujah His soul goes marching on"

[@dawna1214]

Thank you for postings the songs 🎵 lyrics for us.

[@HERO_POSTING]

"Was he a hero or a terrorist?" These terms aren't mutually exclusive.

[@kevinreese8224]

Definitely a hero! I don’t mention anything civil rights without giving John Brown a shout out 👌🏽

[@JackClockerinos]

Good. He and his peers all played their part in abolishing the evils of slavery once and for all

[@markrunk9171]

You missed a big event during the capture of John Brown. The initial access to "John Browns fort" was only big enough for one man at a time. a soldier made it in and thrust his saber into John Browns chest which should have killed him but the sword bent almost in half. This was witnessed by the townsfolk he had abducted as hostages. This witnessed act was seen as divine intervention.

[@TheLazyass111]

I wonder what caused that? Did it strike a hefty ass button? Or was he wearing plate armor? Also that dudes sword must've been absolute shit

[@capoislamort100]

@@TheLazyass111 the sword hit Brown’s belt-buckle and the impact got deflected.

[@pabloni1117]

@@capoislamort100 how did that guy hit a belt buckle?

[@alvindeo]

@@pabloni1117 probably a combination of adrenaline rush from the chaos of fighting and the fact that he's using a saber, a poorly balanced top-heavy sword optimized to be swung on horseback instead of thrust on foot. Except if the guy was using infantry saber which meant he just sucked or is in total panic

[@claudespeed277]

Jesus made sure he was able to die as a martyr.

[@ejacks3]

I grew up in the area of Ohio where John Brown lived (Stow-Kent). I knew about him from the books my parents provided to me growing up. There was no talk about him in the history classes at school nor any prominent monuments or plaques dedicated to him. It was as if he was an embarrassment and a reminder of America's past which we tried not to acknowledged.

[@christopherhorn1161]

In Kansas we hang a mural up in his memory in our state capital...we worship John Brown in Kansas

[@rhondahacker9436]

It is truly amazing that this man gave his life for the cause of ending slavery. RIP John Brown!

[@YANZiiFYiT010]

John Brown was the epitome of “Bout that life” RIP

[@heronimousbrapson863]

While most of John Brown's sons were legitimate, I suspect there was something fishy about Salmon....

[@iammrbeat]

Oh snap. That was so bad that it was good. :D

[@jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502]

🤣

[@SafetySpooon]

GO TO YOUR ROOM!

[@EvolvementEras]

Literally the first time I ever heard of John brown was through and oversimplified video about the Civil War. I am an American I grew up in New York State I am currently a junior in college and I have never been taught about John Brown throughout my many years of taking American history. So grateful I learned about him through oversimplified and get to learn more about him through video such as these

[@francisluglio6611]

Really? I'm also a New Yorker. I learned about him

[@EvolvementEras]

@@francisluglio6611 I grew up and graduated in 1993 in Utica, maybe a different curriculum or something? It took an oversimplified video for me

[@francisluglio6611]

@@EvolvementEras I grew up on long island and graduated in 2013. Definitely some major differences there

[@ehrenthompson7891]

There is a reason they never taught you about John Brown.

[@EvolvementEras]

@@ehrenthompson7891 Because they don’t want people having revolutionary ideas

[@breadenjoyer5778]

He captured Harper's Ferry with his nineteen men so true He frightened old Virginia till she trembled through and through They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew But his soul goes marching on

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

John brown did nothing wrong

[@Virus-wc5vt]

I’ve Always Loved JOHN BROWN, he was way ahead of his time. Will see you in the New World Mr Brown.

[@charlessimerly266]

Are we not going to mention the fact that his son's name was salmon?

[@PlayerJay425]

I’m sorry but Salmon brown is a cool name as long as it’s pronounced Sal-mon

[@iammrbeat]

It does seem a little fishy.

[@ilikedota5]

@@iammrbeat What about Salmon P. Chase

[@LOLquendoTV]

"John the baby is on the way, we havent decided what well name him yet!" "Ah shit" stares out the window at river "Salmon!"

[@TerryTurner]

Those times were rough for children, so many deaths. 😢

[@iammrbeat]

Yep, it's why the life expectancy was so low back then.

[@EmpressMermaid]

If half you'r kids made it to adulthood, you were doing well.

[@greenchilistudioz4537]

That explains why some families are huge, my grandma from my mom's side, has about 13 children

[@tesmith47]

yeah BLACK CHILDREN WERE WORKED TO DEATH

[@escobarlisle6007]

I literally found out today I'm related to this man, speechless so proud

[@_jaydennrivera_]

that's lit, carry on his legacy

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

Make him proud.

[@butterflyknifeislife8658]

Yes a non-American named Escobar is definitely John Browns relative, second cousins with Lincoln and Sherman too?

[@sam.k44]

When I was a kid my dad mentioned that one of my grandfather's was hung for being an abolitionist and never said anything else about it yesterday he sent me the trailer and was like ps that's your great, great, great, great, great gandfater you know the one I told u about 😅 ok so that was a tiny understatement

[@cecebestt]

You’re probably my cousin then!!! Cause John brown is my x5 great cousin

[@gifu6259]

Sweet Home Alabama

[@allabored4443]

That's awesome!

[@isd4154]

@@gifu6259 what's that supposed mean? Makes no fucking Sense

[@gifu6259]

@@isd4154 Calm down kid This is the internet, it's fine

[@edmaloney6665]

"hero or terrorist?" - the mistake is thinking that these things are mutually exclusive

[@MrCmon113]

Yeah, it's like most people in the comments don't know what the word "terrorist" means.

[@hoodieplays2996]

@@MrCmon113 apparently freeing slaves makes you Terroris

[@ostrichhe4d]

@@hoodieplays2996 I think it’s more the brutal shit he did to free slaves that people are calling him a terrorist for.

[@hoodieplays2996]

@@ostrichhe4d I don’t care what they say if you kill a slave owner you’re a hero

[@Shockkings0714]

@@hoodieplays2996 Your feelings don’t matter. By definition he was a Terrorist

[@connor981]

“The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” -Thomas Jefferson John Brown’s work was similar to the American Revolution: fighting for the rights and freedom of people

[@iammrbeat]

Yep, that's an apt comparison.

[@muslimmetalman]

which is totally why the "Founding Fathers" were highly pro slavery & John Brown and the abolitionists were met with the most vicious slander and hatred. Yeah same goals apparently

[@connor981]

Huzaifa Ahmed thanks for the lies about the founders. Ones like Washington and Jefferson ordered their slaves be freed upon their deaths, and they used the constitution to ban the slave trade. It was just southern states who found ways to continues it, so the abolitionists had to finish carrying out the will of the founders.

[@DavidVargasColombia]

I would not necessarily make a comparison to the American Revolution. As has been mentioned in other comments, the American Revolution was pioneered by slave owners. Sure, some of them might have freed them upon their deaths, but they still profited off their labour. While not all founding fathers were slaveholders (and some vehemently hated the institution) the revolution in part helped preserve slavery. Had the Americans lost the fight it is very possible that slavery would have ended much sooner, and without as much bloodshed. There is also the issue that the establishment of the United States helped exacerbate the genocide against indigenous peoples of the Americas.

[@connor981]

David Vargas who says Britain wouldn’t have kept slavery and killed the natives? Additionally the persecution of natives came to how we typically think of it under Andrew Jackson, and he wasn’t one of the founders.

[@VloggingThroughHistory]

Great stuff as usual Mr Beat!

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks man!

[@tybirious412]

As a decedent of James Brown and not knowing much about him other then info in a book only handed down to family this is pretty cool! thank you for making this

[@gullahgal2239]

❤❤❤❤you come from greatness

[@alundavies8402]

@@gullahgal2239 I agree with you long live America and make all of you equal in a real way God bless

[@sydneyw4282]

That’s something to be proud of.

[@danielvictor3262]

your ancestor is a hero and did everything right

[@rickeybernard8156]

That's dope homie. You come from greatness.

[@abandonedchannel281]

Terrorism = Non-government actor killing in the name of politics He’s a hero regardless of definition…

[@frederik7338]

Terrorism can also be defined as = A set of military tactics meant to achieve victory by spreading fear among your enemy. Usually through brutality and targeting Civillians. Both Government an non-government actors are guilty of employing this. Government-examples of this include: the bombardement of Copenhagen by British forces in 1807, the Red and White Terror following the Russian revolution, The power consolidating tactics employed by Mussolini and Hitler, The Blitz on London, and the Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[@awddfg]

@@frederik7338 If the civilians support slavery, they aren't civilians in the case of the civil war

[@adamantiiispencespence4012]

The actual definition is someone whose motivations are political, religious and use terror and violence to effect political or social change. John Brown falls very nearly into all these criteria.

[@TheeChronicle]

One of the greatest Americans to ever live. He died trying to free Americans from slavery. Without him there might not have been a civil war and black people might not be free today. A true patriot.

[@commanderfoxtrot]

The fight is yet to be won, but his victories sure made a dent in the brutalist system that still exists to this day.

[@shocktrauma85]

Prager U called him a terrorist for fighting to free slaves. What kind of terrible human being would want to ruin s̶l̶a̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ states' rights?

[@anthonylong9067]

It’s pragerU. What do you expect

[@joelmaynard5590]

When I was in highschool my teacher introduced him as "Crazy John Brown" because of his extreme ideals but aside from the unflattering nickname he never made him seem like a bad person. John Brown was certainly a radical but I say he fought a good fight. Killing people is always immoral but when it is done for a good cause it can be justified, nobody should bat an eye when american servicemen had to kill Japanese and German soldiers in ww2 because even though killing is wrong if they had not killed those people than even more people in Europe and east Asia would have suffered. John Brown brought the injustice of slavery and the abolition movement to the center of political discourse with his attacks.

[@iammrbeat]

Quality comment. Well put.

[@joelmaynard5590]

@@iammrbeat thanks

[@joelmaynard5590]

@Spegimation As is owning another human being. There is no economic or moral justification for slavery. The murders began in self defense from the pro slavery Missourians who would attack the abolitionists.

[@joelmaynard5590]

@Spegimation How? John Brown was just a normal person that would have meant kidnapping people which is also a crime.

[@joelmaynard5590]

@Spegimation than don't its that simple

[@slade7354]

As they say: "One man's hero is another man's terrorist." He played an important part in our history.

[@matthewdockter2424]

Wow. Great Video. I learned more about John Brown here than I did in my entire compulsory education.

[@iammrbeat]

Aw thanks. That means a lot!

[@luddity]

Self directed education is often more effective than compulsory.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

Calling it compulsory makes it sound like accepting a free education was such a burden. We get out of life what we put into it.

[@ddobrevs]

@@eatfrenchtoast It is a burden since you have to deal with it for at least 9-12 years and you probably aren't interested in 90 percent of the classes.

[@Mobcek99922]

Glory to Johnny Brown from Italy! A great man of freedom, a true patriot who struggled to save all his brothers and sisters in Christ 🇺🇸

[@tesmith47]

too bad Christ didn't give a damn

[@Mobcek99922]

@@tesmith47 I don't think that Christ really exist, is only a cool immage of our heritage

[@Mobcek99922]

@@tesmith47 or maybe Christ is a racist I dunno

[@tesmith47]

@@Mobcek99922 surprise! The imaginary white god is racist. 😂 LOL

[@Mobcek99922]

@@tesmith47 I don't think so, it's only euro-centric because Christianity spread first of all in Europe. I'm not white and I don't see it as a problem, you americans are too stressed with race identitarism, chill...

[@mr.goldenglasses6839]

John Brown's body lies a-moldering in the grave But his soul goes marching on

[@ninalaboard1752]

I will and always will be as a black African American woman, a huge fan of John Brown! He was a HERO!!! not a terrorist!!!! John Brown fought for what he knew was wrong!! all those who believed in slavery in that era were of animalistic behavior, they were evil and their beliefs were and still is to this day insanely evil! pure hate and fear of what they don't know because of jealousy and outright, ignorance!! How could this brave and God fearing man called John Brown be crazy or a terrorist or just plain killing people for no apparent reason? If that was the case what would you call a race of people who: rape, kill, separate mother's from their babies and sell them off, put them to work as early as 4 years old to take care also of their children and beat them if they didn't meet their expectations, performed unspeakable acts while in the presence of an audience of people selling off human beings exposing their nakedness both male and female with no sense of human decency, in chains. I could go on and on, anyone with any common sense and a sane mind would know that these kind of people were crazy, insane and without full functions of their tiny brains..THAT IS WHY JOHN BROWN TODAY IS VIEWED A HERO AND A GOD FEARING MAN WHO GOD USED TO HEAD OFF THE CIVIL WAR!! JOHN BROWN AND HIS SONS WERE HERO'S THAT SPIRITS COULD'NT STAND FOR THIS INHUMANE INSANITY OF GOD'S BLACK CHILDREN, HE VIEWED US ALL AS GOD'S CHILDREN CREATED EQUAL IN THE EYE'S OF GOD.. I BET HE'S RESTING IN PEACE...HE LEFT US HIS LEGACY!! THE GREAT AND BRAVE JOHN BROWN WHO STOOD AGAINST SLAVERY IN THE FEAR OF GOD! THERE IS NO LOGIC OR HONOR IN HUMAN SLAVERY!!! SO ALL WHO BELIEVE THAT RACISM AND SLAVERY WAS OKAY AND TRIES TO JUSTIFY IT.....PLEASE USE YOUR HEADS FOR MORE THAN A HAT RACK!!!!!...

[@petermorton301]

Well said

[@jackharvey5613]

Can’t agree with you more, John Brown is a true American hero, we should all be thankful for his efforts

[@olawaleesan4672]

He fought for what he knew was wrong, unjust, barbaric and evil. He had a great conscience, he had human feelings, he was sympathetic towards his fellow human beings. What a Great man he was.

[@jackharvey5613]

MrFattyfatfatboy Glad you’re on the right side!

[@cxarhomell5867]

Yeah and at the same time got his ass screwed over.

[@redoktopus3047]

The fact that there is any debate over whether this guy who literally gave his life fighting for the freedom of others is truly disgusting. I feel like history teachers always want to play up debates and shit. It's hurting America and teaching us to rewrite our history and see ourselves as enemies. John Brown was an American hero, more so than the slave-holding founding fathers who fought for independence in 1776. He truly stood up for the ideals of freedom. This comment is in honor of John Brown and Nat Turner (another many who lead a slave rebellion). When on death row, a reporter asked Nat Turner how he felt about being put the death. Nat Turner replied: "Was not Christ crucified?"

[@ronaldlincoln2935]

People love their damn government...even when it's wrong. John Brown was called an Insurrectionist at the time. Sound familiar? Freedom has no color. Freedom is the enemy of those in charge.

[@Jane-qh2yd]

John Brown was a very brutal and extreme man, but so was slavery. It takes an evil man to hurt those for the sake of freedom, but it takes an even worse man to just sit there and do nothing

[@reeyees50]

Hero, he lost many of his children to the cause. This sacrifice is definitely along the lines of heroic sacrifice of the heroes of the past

[@dcasper8514]

Different people mentioned here.. John Brown vs James Brown..

[@ArvelCrynyd]

He was a hero and a Christian patriot

[@kingofcards9]

What ever man I strive to be.

[@lucaperon9865]

“Slaves obey your masters”

[@Imissyoulou]

@@lucaperon9865 That is what the Bible teaches. Which is another reason, I leave religion alone. Live by the Golden Rule, is my motto.

[@gracefulchicken8425]

“Do to others as you would have them do to you.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭6‬:‭31‬ ‭NIV‬‬ Sounds like something John Brown believed in

[@SunflowerSocialist]

We need to resurrect John Brown and bring him back here to fix this state.

[@randomuser5443]

Nah. He would probably off himself seeing how Democrats want a surf class and how the world is still shit. Get someone more stable

[@eatfrenchtoast]

@@randomuser5443 go do another Abu Graib with your right wing buddies.

[@randomuser5443]

NICK You look to be very white, please kiss my Hispanic ass as I support the people who want to end the Middle East wars.

[@dirtyhorse5090]

That can be done.

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

​@@randomuser5443 Malinchista ¿Odias tu nombre y tu raza tanto como para provocar tanta vergüenza? Respiras este fétido aire de los güeros, pero no eres güero. Caminas por sus calles manchadas de sangre, hablas su idioma repugnante, pero no eres güero, eres latino. Tu lo puedes olvidar, pero ellos nunca lo harán.

[@sydneyw4282]

I came here to watch this again for the holiday. This man should be celebrated as an American hero.

[@xxxchild_predatorxxx107]

He’s a terrorist

[@24hoursofyayasrandomthoughts]

In my view, Brown was a hero, despite the fact that his methods in attempting to bring an end to slavery were poorly construed and unsuccessful. Brown intended to trigger an insurrection in order both to liberate the enslaved people and to destroy the existing government of the United States. He knew that under the conditions of the time in the 1850s, neither the individual state governments nor the federal government were going to bring about abolition through peaceful means. In this, Brown was correct. However, the small body of men he enlisted for his operation to take over the Harper's Ferry arsenal could not possibly have held out against the authorities, and the enslaved people throughout Virginia and the other states correctly saw that a spontaneous insurrection had no chance of success and so refused to participate in it. Brown was doomed.

[@natalyawoop4263]

I think the impact he had was in how massively strong his conviction was. When people saw this, they knew he refused to back down because he was on the morally right side.

[@24hoursofyayasrandomthoughts]

@@natalyawoop4263 o wow nice

[@yousefnagib5301]

John Brown's impact is evident in that the Harper's Ferry attack is frequently cited by historians as one of the final catalysts for the civil war. It created a political environment where the idea of reconciliation became impossible, and then after Lincoln's election the war began. Brown's actions were a significant indirect cause of the war which brought about the end of slavery. So the argument can be made that he was, in fact, successful in the way he intended to be.

[@swolejeezy2603]

“They hung him for a traitor, they themselves the traitor crew - his soul is marching on”

[@HistoryandHeadlines]

That's awesome that you visited the museum for your video! Nice touch!

[@CarpeVerpa]

For those who disagree with John Brown's methods, I'd like to ask: what meaningful difference in morality was there between John Brown using violence to try and end slavery and the federal government under Lincoln using violence to try and end slavery? Genuinely would like to see if anyone has a good answer here.

[@TheHauntedKiwi]

John Brown was saintly compared to 400 years of slavery. Slavers would force young black children, girls to have their babies. Then they'd sell those babies, their own sons and daughters, to other slave owners. That's the kind of depravity and evil he opposed

[@Matthew-ks8fm]

Nothing and they were both wrong. The civil war was basically an imperialist war, people from another place trying to impose their values on others. Just like it’s wrong to go to the Middle East and violently suppress their culture it’s wrong to go anywhere and do that.

[@anomalocarislover7254]

I would say that he was a misguided villain. He was unwavering in his ideas, which most people should argue are good values. I would argue he took it too far when killing innocent people who had no involvement in slavery.

[@MM-vs2et]

I think that John Brown is a hero, because we should judge him holistically, instead of cherrypicked details. But, I think the execution of civilians, like the Pottawatomie Massacre is not comparable to the military aggressions of the ensuing Civil War. Some accounts said that they dragged the families out of their homes, out to the woods, and summarily executed them. I mean, I know the Rebels and the Union committed atrocities of their own, but this was completely unnecessary. They could've just went into Douglass County and destroyed infrastructure, or at least if they are trying to engage in combat, fight the local militia, or the sheriff that started the Sack of Lawrence. My point is that they didn't have to do that, because there were other ways to send a message. The people they killed were unarmed civilians. I'm not trying to play it up emotionally, but that's just how it is. All in all, William Garrison said it best when he called him "misguided and wild". Nonetheless, his cause was noble and true.

[@tesmith47]

@@anomalocarislover7254 which people were not involved or benifit from it

[@coasterhockygamingboy9549]

I’m studying John Brown and writing a biography of him for Black History Month in school.

[@stephenmartin9029]

Fun Fact: JB was wounded, and not killed when captured in part because the attacking officer had mistakenly grabbed his ceremonial sword in his haste and thus did not render a blow that otherwise might have been fatal.

[@GiGiGiWest]

"Hero or Terrorist?" John Brown: Yes

[@michaelwoodward9894]

John Brown is a saint in the name of Black History Month

[@cloud2440]

Fredrick Douglas on speaking about John Brown "His zeal in the cause of freedom was infinitely suppior to mine. Mine was as the taper light, his was as the burning sun. Mine was bounded by time. His stretched away to the silent shores of eternity. I could speak for the slave. John Brown could fight for the slave. I could live for the slave. John Brown could die for the slave."

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

I think people ironically were just smarter than

[@lizrathburn8603]

I genuinely believe that john brown was one of the most morally upright and righteous people in american history, fought for what was right despite the calls for moderation and compromise from the cowardly politicians. Violence was the only way to end the violent system of slavery and it still is, his soul goes marching on.

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

Says the guy with the stalin profile picture.. gtfoh

[@lizrathburn8603]

@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 Stalin was great And Stalin Did nothing Wrong shut up ya dumb lib

[@Carl_ATHF]

Liz Rathburn 100,000,000 dead from communism. Glad John brown was lynched

[@elijahlees8655]

@@lizrathburn8603 The Soviet Union was not industrialized or liberalized enough for socialism to happen according to Marx.

[@lizrathburn8603]

@@elijahlees8655 Marx had no experience in the practical building of socialism and no examples of socialism past 1871. His analysis of Russia in 1917 is not something we can speculate on yet socialism was indeed being built in the USSR by the definitions of worker control of the means of production and the destruction of the capitalist state and its replacement with a state run by workers.

[@MoKXGu1]

God bless the soul of John Brown , a true Christian martyr .

[@angebrowne1730]

MoKXGu1 archive.org/stream/WeThoughtTheyWereWhiteDontellJackson/We+Thought+They+Were+White%2C+Dontell+Jackson+_djvu.txt Thor Heyerdahl wrote as much from actual records. What neither seemed to know was that the first slaves to Jaimaica were 8-9 year old stolen white children from Ireland. Others followed from there, the SW Coast of England, Bristol in particular and parts of the French coast. Some as young as 4. At a time the dews were supposedly banned from Britain and Ireland (they simply went Crypto). They had it made law that 6yr olds could officially be enslaved. This is all on historical records with the dews own archives, the British Library (dig deep) and other law records in Britain, Ireland, France, the Caribbean and in various American states where there were 6x more white than black slaves. Blacks and Native Indians also owned slaves, but actual whites accounted for only circa 2% of owners. Dews have a song "We aren't white we are dewish" - but they try and make themselves sound good and whites sound bad, as they always do. Willing indentured slavery didn't happen until relatively near the end. They decided to foment an end to it because slave owners were breeding their own and the bottom came out of the market. They realised that with their family members already in Parliament here, they could carry out a huge scam and have it abolished and have Parliament award them compensation, to be borrowed from their banks at compound interest. That fraudulent debt wasn't paid off by ALL the taxpaying British public until 1915. Black organisations have been given massive compensation, but none for whites. They blame us to stop people knowing it was them (everybody's doppeldangers - they breed into all races to infiltrate) and of course do all they can to hide the truth. Easier than ever for them to do today, and undoubtedly one day they will destroy all the antiquarian and ancient records they can get hold of, which is why I never get rid of my old old books. They can't change the truth in antiquarian books. Fact is, anyone mixed race way back is likely to have come from both black and white slaves. William Wilberforce was a fraud. It may still be possible to go through gugle free yandex to find some links as to what decent William Cobbett said to him. WW owned slaves. Also, search yt and yandex about medieval tortures in Britain, and how the Isaac sons (Saxons) enslaved and ill treated and torturously murdered the ancient Britons - which I have a lot of lineage back to. They practised on the Britons, Irish, French and other white Europeans lonp prior to the transatlantic slave trade. Btw, Brown is an anglicised Sephardin name. I would know. However, those I write of were mostly the Khazarian convert descendants. The ashke nazi.

[@lenfer1607]

@@angebrowne1730 cool story dude.

[@tesmith47]

Fkn god did nothing

[@CommissarMoody1]

Mr. Brown was both. Useing violence to force political or social change throws him into the terrorist camp. But his first acts of violence were in self defense, and fighting to end slavery is a pretty heroic. So compromise with Freedom fighter. Would also like to add, that are founding fathers would have been considered terrorist today. So that whole, "One mans freedom fighter is another man terrorist" applies here.

[@iammrbeat]

Well put. Yeah, the Sons of Liberty were technically a terrorist organization constantly committing all kinds of acts of treason.

[@6idangle]

Yea but we don’t consider the founding fathers terrorists. Terrorism is a label for when we disagree with the cause. I’ve read some of his biography, and the man was radically egalitarian and a hero. If more people acted like him slavery wouldn’t have persisted so long.

[@CommissarMoody1]

I agree, Mr. Brown was ahead of his time. I not trying to diminish or demonize his struggle. I am arguing from a purely academic point. On a personal level i agree, with his actions. And being a modern man i recognize the evils of slavery, and agree with its dissolution.

[@KoreaMojo]

Not so much a criticism but you do realize the changes politics advocates for are usually enforced violently. You think the police, military, intelligence agencies aren't violent? I think most people just don't think about it. There is no difference, we just convince ourselves there is because emotions.

[@CommissarMoody1]

I was a soldier, so am aware of the use and concepts of violence as a matter of policy. So again its a yes and no thing. It's authoritarian when a government uses violence on its own people, war when used against others nations. Which is why i will bring up the concept of the social contract. We agree to follow rules because they are advantages, be it for a perceived social, political, moral, economic and or physical advantage. We do not useally have to shoot or arrest people for a new tax or approval of the building of a new school... Useally that is, there always seems to be an caveat to the rule. When it comes to human interaction. Haha

[@angrypepe7615]

He's the embodiment of chaotic good, change my mind

[@Quinntus79]

And chaotic good is still good.

[@alejandrovergara4726]

He died for something great. He will live for ever as hero and a legend.

[@Net2448]

Can you give me a good 7 sentence paragraph on why he was a hero for my homework please

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@Net2448 Hambgurb

[@mattgrele6318]

This guy is cool. So he was a financial failure so he decided im gonna go beast mode, but im not an asshole so ill go beast mode on the most evil people in the world

[@vermin5367]

Lol beast mode

[@alundavies8402]

He wasn’t cut out for business but he knew right from wrong and he was a brave man not perfect but incredibly brave and loyal to his version of what America should be and my mum said that he was a good man so there!

[@michazapaa213]

Fun fact: Norwid, one of the most famous polish poets, wrote an epitath for him in 1859. It's still discussed in some polish schools as far as I know.

[@BigPerm47]

Congress has decided that slavery is legal. John Brown, "I recognize that the congress has made a decision. But given that it’s a stupid ass decision I’ve elected to ignore it."

[@minelayer26]

based

[@KingKumari]

Remember on the little rascals when one of the kids said, "what's your name?"", He answered," John Brown ask me again I'll knock you down", that man is a LEGEND.....

[@hoodieplays2996]

I never noticed that

[@KevinP32270]

john brown and his sons are some of my FAVORITE HEROES OF ALL TIME. they lived their convictions and help to end the evils of the slave masters physically assaulting, rapping, and murdering the men, women and children during those times. may him and his family sit at the side of GOD.

[@tesmith47]

No god,

[@KevinP32270]

@@tesmith47 are you saying god came down as John brown, his sons, and fellow soldiers to fight against the evils of slavery?

[@iammrbeat]

Was John Brown more of a hero or more of a terrorist?

[@TerryTurner]

Anti-hero (in-between both, up to the eyes of the beholder)

[@AegonNunya]

Definitely a hero, maybe both. He was right

[@Neutralrealist8545]

It shouldn't be a binary. You can be both depending on the cause

[@tylerahrens275]

Terrorist 100%

[@Neutralrealist8545]

@@tylerahrens275 ok slavery apologist.

[@MHDebidour]

As a european I think John Brown is a true american hero and a true christian, he show how to stand against the worst violent, monstruous, despictable system ever made. His struggle to his martydom show that even in the darkest, hopeless time you can be human and fight for and with your fellow brothers and sisters in humanity against evil.

[@thekusiwaa]

Damn!!!! this is what you call dedication He sacrificed everything just to see Justice made to humidity he is one in a million definitely a Heroe ❤️

[@Wiggyam]

He was a terrorist, but that means literally nothing. A terrorist is just someone who uses «illegal» violence for political aims? Who gets to decide what is legal? The state? Who decides if that state has any legitimacy at all? «The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.»

[@TaigiTWeseFormosanDiplomat]

YES.

[@Fixundfertig1]

"Who gets to decide what is legal?" Sheev Palpatine decide it, because he is the Senate

[@TheBuzzkill2012]

Dangerous way of looking at it but ok.

[@randomuser5443]

TheBuzzkill2012 Definitions are fun

[@Cuauhtemoc3]

Terrorist. that's BS. It wasn't about politics. It was a about human life. Politics is one thing then theirs life.

[@PrNycTina1091]

as John Brown so famously said "Charge it to the Lord, Heathen!"

[@michaelwoodward9894]

John Brown is not a hero but a saint when you say the word freedom,justice,and liberty

[@the2ndcoming135]

💀

[@fullaregrets5015]

You'd have to be pretty vile to claim Anti-Slavery is terrorism.

[@Bentwest]

I wish i could go back in time i wouldve fought next to him what a amazing hero this guy was

[@chongjunxiang3002]

When a guy with so many debt, somehow can travel more further in his lifetime with horse and cart than average modern American with plane and Interstate.

[@iammrbeat]

He had a little help from his abolitionist friends.

[@rustyAF]

This was really cool to learn. Thank you. They’re even doing a show about him

[@206hxcx]

everytime a racist dies, Saint John Brown smiles from his grave in North Elba.

[@keithusery723]

Way to go JB, he had a heck of a life, wish you could be talked about in more of these conversations Today, Thank you for what you did for our people my brother✊🏾✊🏾

[@adaptabledisease]

I propose another option, Could we just call him …. a Man. A Man who was fed up with the circumstances that surrounded him. A Man that made no compromises. A Man, who only saw other men...

[@BeingMeEnt]

if you noticed he wrote in his constitution that deviant sexual activity would be prohibited... I believe he wrote that in because of the high amount of child predators that existed during them times...as well as the everyday rape of women. He was a hero, man. There was so much evil in the slavery world. As a man of God, there was no way he could not do something.

[@tesmith47]

Yeah, too bad god didn't just step up and do something

[@Cohosh]

I guess you missed the part about him marrying/having sex with a 16 year old at the age of 32?

[@phil8378]

John Brown is a role model and an American hero. His unwavering dedication to the causes of freedom and equality is an inspiration to all who love liberty

[@nicolemontgomery4126]

John Brown was the white Malcolm X it takes a brave special type of man to risk their sons to end slavery when they would never become a slave hats off to this remarkable man💯

[@Anthony-xe2pz]

I'm Irish living now in the UK. I've always found it odd that some romantism is related to the Confederate course, more so now I look upon the rebel flag with distain. It doesn't represent honour when I saw in April it was flown by anti lockdown demonstaters in Michigan. Nurses counter demonstrating being harassed by vicious trump supporters and one particular lowlife threatening a Nurse with arrest, he was armed with an AR15 ! The young Nurse stood her ground as did the other Nurses. This incident was shown through out the world to both show America's shame and pride.

[@terrencehazel1410]

So you are the one's violating others freedom by forcing people under lockdown to remain in their houses and you actually have the audacity to compare yourselves to freedom fighters? You are beneath contempt vermin. I am ashamed to be part Irish seeing how so many of you love this new corporate worldwide morality so much. I say you because you will go on and on about how Trump is undermining Democracy. By the values of Democracy whoever you vote for, you have your name behind all the bad things they do. Just like John Brown did not treat pro-slavers any differently from actual slavers.

[@sonnycook5346]

This was a great man! One day he’ll be honored appropriately