The Life of Beijing’s Most Famous Courtesan | Sai Jinhua

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@sietessietes
@sietessietes 3 жыл бұрын
Her birth name was Zhao Lingfei. She uses several different names throughout her life / career, but she's mostly known as Sai Jinhua (means; prettier than the golden flower).
@phinhnanthasone1231
@phinhnanthasone1231 3 жыл бұрын
Every time one of her husband died his family denied her any support and her only daughter died long before her. I believe that the husband's family wouldn't abandon a son so readily.
@Areyousayingidontknowmyname
@Areyousayingidontknowmyname 3 жыл бұрын
Similar to when parents force daughters to adopt their child out. Due to not being married. Its like they don't understand the concept of its actually their blood they are chucking out. Her child might not have been fully their blood but half was.
@evangeline77x
@evangeline77x 3 жыл бұрын
It seems incredibly cruel from Jinhua's perspective but you have to consider the legal wife, she would be the one stuck with the immense burden of paying for Jinhua's care for the rest of her life and be forced to pay for Deguan's upbringing AND eventually her dowry all at a loss. For a widow likely with multiple children of her own, and perhaps even other concubines to care for, and with limited/finite resources, paying a dowry (which would've been obligatory) for an illegitimate daughter in that era is literally throwing money away. If Jinhua had a son, yes it would have been much different because even an illegitimate son will carry on the family line. However a girl will be married into another family, bare them children meaning the first wife only loses.. If fault is to be found in this situation it's solely with the men who left her no legal property or any funds knowing she would be vulnerable without them. Especially her first husband, who should have made preparations for her in advance knowing he was much older and that she would surely out live him. However he left the responsibility on his legal wife who had no reason to care what happened to Jinhua or Deguan.
@donnalynn2
@donnalynn2 3 жыл бұрын
@@evangeline77x Exactly! Also back then it was a major thing to be an illegitimate child. Nowadays it doesn't mean much and hardly anyone cares but back then it brought shame upon a family and could cast them out of society. You also don't mix classes and you certainly do not ever invite mistresses nor their children to dine at your table. The wife paid her dues and got the name, title, house, etc and they were hers when/if the husband died. It just wasn't done, bringing in the "bastard child" I think some people are living in a fantasy land of how things used to be.
@aucuneideejsp8891
@aucuneideejsp8891 3 жыл бұрын
@@donnalynn2 Even into the XIXth century, being illegitimate was a curse
@tanya334
@tanya334 3 жыл бұрын
How did her child die so young ??
@kimmccabe1422
@kimmccabe1422 3 жыл бұрын
Today the Chinese realize that the daughter is worth more than a son because not only they can be just as bright n productive but they also are the ones who take care of their elders. (The latter the deal breaker).
@Ritercrazy
@Ritercrazy 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the society can find equal value in both genders. Not one above the other.
@mikochang7724
@mikochang7724 3 жыл бұрын
yes they can forced or willingly married a rich men, help family economic
@nellajoensalo2316
@nellajoensalo2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ritercrazy Excatly. Favoring one sex over the other is no better either way.
@princess7jasmine
@princess7jasmine 3 жыл бұрын
Nah they haven't realized shit.
@waverly4942
@waverly4942 3 жыл бұрын
@@princess7jasmine 🙄
@Jaws69
@Jaws69 3 жыл бұрын
In 1983 I was helping a 103 year old woman in Canada that was a English teacher in China during this rebellion. She said that another Canadian teacher was decapitated . Her body was found with no head. The head was later found in a washroom hole. The woman I met helped to sew the head back on the body for the funeral. Bad days to live in for sure
@Ritercrazy
@Ritercrazy 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing you met such a person!
@Jaws69
@Jaws69 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ritercrazy Well in 2001 I met a old man in a Toronto dive bar that said he was a hangman in Britain. Then he proceeded to tell me the rope calculations according to weight of criminal. Don’t know how I met that guy
@Ritercrazy
@Ritercrazy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaws69 Random and a bit disturbing 😳.
@sissyrayself7508
@sissyrayself7508 2 жыл бұрын
And we should never tell ourselves that " times and atrocities like those in China's past could never happen here".
@noorgonzalez1076
@noorgonzalez1076 Жыл бұрын
❤Matthew 24❤
@aramatoulayedabo3438
@aramatoulayedabo3438 3 жыл бұрын
Binding feet was truly a horrific and disturbing practice
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrific
@J3diMindTrix
@J3diMindTrix 3 жыл бұрын
What a poor woman. Sold into sex slavery at age 13, became a concubine at 15, pregnant at 17, a mother at 18, then once her guardian/ owner dies, the extended family has no use for her so kicks her and her infant (1 year old) daughter out on to the streets penniless, so she is forced to turn back to prostitution. She marries again, only to repeatedly outlive her husbands, resulting in being forced back in to prostitution, time and time again. And all this while in constant excruciating pain thanks to bound feet. Wow. Sometimes I think the citizens of the famously horrible totalitarian tyranny of the communist dictatorship of the CCP that is modern day China have it bad; but now after learning about this, I see they have it slightly less bad. Any time some feminazi whines about the treatment of women, I'll be sure to direct them to this appalling travesty and norm for women in the not too distant past.
@lisachoi3721
@lisachoi3721 3 жыл бұрын
isn't it quite ironic that the modern(ish) version of feet binding is wearing corsets to make one's waist tiny?
@Psyphelia
@Psyphelia 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisachoi3721 that’s.. no. That’s not what corsets are for most of the time. Plus it’s no where near as painful.
@amysommerfield2069
@amysommerfield2069 3 жыл бұрын
@@Psyphelia Plus, it was never forced upon you. You didn't have to wear a corset, but you were forced, usually before you were 5, to have your feet bound.
@phoebet3999
@phoebet3999 3 жыл бұрын
A movie about this woman would be so interesting. She's a fascinating and complex character
@onyx201002
@onyx201002 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually a movie. It's called Memoirs of a Gesha.
@princesssupernova5300
@princesssupernova5300 3 жыл бұрын
@@onyx201002 wrong country 🤦‍♀️
@phoebet3999
@phoebet3999 3 жыл бұрын
@@onyx201002 memoirs of a geisha is Japanese not Chinese
@rhazali94
@rhazali94 3 жыл бұрын
Title please
@russiannatasha2229
@russiannatasha2229 3 жыл бұрын
@Lizzy B Was it the “Last madam”? Although that was set in Singapore the story still seems quite similar.
@alexandrasmith8868
@alexandrasmith8868 3 жыл бұрын
Her hard life is still the same for many women in the world today. Very sad.
@weltschmertzz
@weltschmertzz 3 жыл бұрын
The world is a difficult place to be a female and boys have the audacity to deny misogyny.
@CTcCaster
@CTcCaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@weltschmertzz the world is a difficult place for everyone.
@gorgeous6737
@gorgeous6737 3 жыл бұрын
Savings
@adriana7136
@adriana7136 3 жыл бұрын
Not for me.mine husband working and i'm spending time with friends and minę extentions
@Dollimino_doll
@Dollimino_doll 3 жыл бұрын
@@weltschmertzz As a woman myself, men have it just as bad. We have hardships in different aspects, and positives in other categories. The only women who have it harder then men is women living in a country where they do not have rights
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that some people treated her well and took care of her in her sunset years. She was a repository of history.
@justiceempire1170
@justiceempire1170 3 жыл бұрын
She has a sad, difficult, but filled with an adventure life. It's just dat the ending is quite sad, but she had left a mark on her own simple way of helping other people.
@meee6887
@meee6887 3 жыл бұрын
As a Indian who loves China's culture and historical stories ...I love this one her character is so strong ,clever and resilient...she is witty too at the same time...more of these type please... I love different cultural historical stories with strong and inspiring leads ....😭😭😭
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 3 жыл бұрын
I think she could only make the most of what life offered her.
@Whipslinger1
@Whipslinger1 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, to find out that this Orphan from a dirt poor background would have bound feet? That's highly unlikely because that wasn't something customary to the lower classes. A child with bound feet would not be able to work. That's not a luxury the Peasant classes could afford. Also, binding usually begins when the child is old enough to walk; 3 or 4, because successful 'Lotus' binding would need to begin when the childs bones are still soft and trainable if you will. It would not be very successful later in life. When the child is younger and the bones are still growing, binding breaks and trains the bones into the desired position. There was no mention that her feet were bound early on. If this was something that was requested by her 'benefactor' THEN the process would have definitely been excruciating because her foot bones are harder and more mature. Poor lamb. 😔
@Breathlless
@Breathlless 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, bound feet was something a lot of lower classes did because it increased their chances of marrying into a better family. Also, it makes a lot of sense for her feet to be bound. Having "lotus feet" wasn't just a cultural thing that signified class, a lot of men back then had a sexual fetish for small feet. Women with bound feet walked a particular gait of small steps that men found appealing. Binding her feet would increase her attractiveness/value. Lastly, having bound feet would ensure she can't easily run away as she grew up.
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 3 жыл бұрын
@@Breathlless You're right. Only the poorest farmer's daughters would have unbound feet. An anecdote: In the early 1970s, I was in Singapore and took a short cut through an alley. There was a very old Chinese lady sitting on chair in the sunshine, wearing traditional clothing, with her tiny feet in front of her. Probably one of the last generation with bound feet.
@mllex2018
@mllex2018 3 жыл бұрын
@@Breathlless thank you I was going to respond the same way. Yes many poor people had their daughters feet bound as well because even if they were to sell the daughters to brothels or to be a rich man’s concubine she would fetch a better price.
@Rosie-et5fg
@Rosie-et5fg 3 жыл бұрын
And she can dance with binding feet?
@mllex2018
@mllex2018 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rosie-et5fg yes women with bound feet can walk and can dance I suppose and can do most house chores. The custom pretty much adopted by every single layer of the society, even the poor ones. So I suppose the poorer women still need to do house chores right? . Not sure if the poorest of the poorest bound their daughter’s feet. But tradition and customs is something that you just take it as it is. When the society think women without bound feet are loose women and won’t be able to get married. Then everyone start following the trend. No matter how illogical it is. It is still happening now. In some tradition and culture woman suppose to live their life in a certain way that other parts of the world think is crazy but hey look around us it still exists. I guess the bound feet makes it harder for them to run away to take competitive sport, to do marathon u know that kind of stuff.
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
So well researched a wonderful story about this woman and the wonderful and sad life she lived. Thank you Forgotten Lives!
@migue4793
@migue4793 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Forgotten Lives is very educational. I like how they cover people from all over the world that the History Books have forgotten. Some are good, some are bad, but all their stories should be remembered.
@wajtopaz4073
@wajtopaz4073 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
@@wajtopaz4073 totally agree Im so pleased the stories are also from Asia!.
@gailhandschuh1138
@gailhandschuh1138 3 жыл бұрын
@@cottontails9003 FL does lives from all over the world. But, always very well done and interesting. Excellent as always.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Of course! Sadly there's less from Asia, that's because most of the topics are recommended :)
@Lilo-A
@Lilo-A Жыл бұрын
This story would be an awesome drama series.
@kathyhester3066
@kathyhester3066 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I have heard of Forgotten Lives. Interesting and good content. Will have to watch your programs. Sai Jinhua was one tough woman. Yes she did somethings wrong, but she was a product of the times. Makes you want to shed a tear.
@razudinhamzah5789
@razudinhamzah5789 3 жыл бұрын
She lived hard for her daughter and herself....🌹
@brendaholliday6866
@brendaholliday6866 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this interesting and yet fascinating story about, Sai Jinhua a woman who was famous as a courtesan and yet helped save the lives of many during wartime in Beijing. Great historical information and great investigating on, Sai Jinhua.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support 😊
@s.v.2796
@s.v.2796 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including so much information in your stories. We deeply appreciate the difficulty and the research.
@tamzpyne7613
@tamzpyne7613 3 жыл бұрын
i love learning about Asia and the different countries and history. i look forward to touring Asia when travel permits
@Melody-mu6nk
@Melody-mu6nk 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting story from the past. Can't imagine the hardships of life she went through! She definitely was a strong woman, who knew how to survive in a dark world she was forced to live in 😒
@J3diMindTrix
@J3diMindTrix 3 жыл бұрын
What a poor woman. Sold into sex slavery at age 13, became a concubine at 15, pregnant at 17, a mother at 18, then once her guardian/ owner dies, the extended family has no use for her so kicks her and her infant (1 year old) daughter out on to the streets penniless, so she is forced to turn back to prostitution. She marries again, only to repeatedly outlive her husbands, resulting in being forced back in to prostitution, time and time again. And all this while in constant excruciating pain thanks to bound feet. Wow. Sometimes I think the citizens of the famously horrible totalitarian tyranny of the communist dictatorship of the CCP that is modern day China have it bad; but now after learning about this, I see they have it slightly less bad. Any time some feminazi whines about the treatment of women, I'll be sure to direct them to this appalling travesty and norm for women in the not too distant past.
@Melody-mu6nk
@Melody-mu6nk 3 жыл бұрын
@@J3diMindTrix I couldn't agree more 👍
@Babziboo
@Babziboo 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel. The diversity of the life stories is telling, as is the number of views based on the individusl's story and "other" characteristics of the subject. But, fret not, I know what society is like and would never hold the channel accountable for the shortcomings of the ignorant. Keep the excellent work.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much !!! Will do :)
@mileshigh1321
@mileshigh1321 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating life! Worthy of full documentary or movie! Thanks for your detailed synopsis of her very interesting life!
@onyx201002
@onyx201002 3 жыл бұрын
I think Memoirs of a Geisha movie is somewhat like this story. Good movie.
@juliie007
@juliie007 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to her story makes me appreciate being a woman in the 21st century especially with access to education which allows women to manage and invest their finances. I wonder if their is a drama about her coz she’s fascinating.
@ayonticabanerjee8326
@ayonticabanerjee8326 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr? I'm so thankful to be born in a democratic country in 21st century where women matter.
@arabicempress
@arabicempress 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Forgotten Lives, you never fail to entertain us and educate us in historical history. So grateful for all your hard work.
@irenabevans3411
@irenabevans3411 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible woman, tough & resilient deserves the recognition she now has in history
@carolneloy2140
@carolneloy2140 3 жыл бұрын
She led a Very interesting life but very very hard. I surely would not have made it . You did a great job presenting her story
@julijakeit
@julijakeit 3 жыл бұрын
I am fascinated how these women survived and wonder myself if I would make it. Probably not. We are so reliant on the system that we have lulled ourselves into incapability. CoVid pandemic and lockdowns just showed that we are utterly unprepared for even the smallest challenge and our petty, so-called '1st world problems' are far from being important. I hope and I have faith that humanity will learn from this lesson and become more resilient and industrious and more caring.
@mayshusakuhanamurasufferli5438
@mayshusakuhanamurasufferli5438 3 жыл бұрын
@@julijakeit haha, dream on. Everyone just wanna have fun. They don't car abt future🌋
@LoneWulf278
@LoneWulf278 3 жыл бұрын
@@julijakeit Well said. 👏🏾 This comment encapsulated my thoughts perfectly.
@valmarsiglia
@valmarsiglia 3 жыл бұрын
The Chinese were making porcelain and carving jade waaaay before the Qing empire. Ming vases are particularly prized.
@bustyblondebeachbunny4827
@bustyblondebeachbunny4827 3 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary on Sai Jinhua.Never knew about her but her story needed to be told. Well told story ! YOU bring Humanity and respectfulness when talking about the different fazes of Sai Jinhua's life. Thank you for this !
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!!
@rachelw821
@rachelw821 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care how poor or destitute I was, I would sell myself before EVER subjecting my daughter to child rape/sex trafficking. I would steal/do whatever I Had to to feed my family before that- I can't imagine any good parent doing so.
@toouniquetobe
@toouniquetobe 3 жыл бұрын
Back then, people had different views/values. As pregnancy was not a choice for the poor and value of girls (to this day!) was considered significantly lower than boys.
@lilabraun6919
@lilabraun6919 3 жыл бұрын
In that time you would have done, what everybody did.
@beedubya8836
@beedubya8836 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilabraun6919 I'm sure there were many more that thought for themselves
@henriettanovember4733
@henriettanovember4733 3 жыл бұрын
It is not for anybody to judge to very poor but to help them. This still happen today all over the world. Reach out to these poor parents and the girls and boys sold for prostitution. There are organizations in many countries working to help these people. Give them money, give them time, give them you voice and start working to help those who suffer today. To be among the poorest in this world is not the same as being bad or being a bad parent. You can make all the different to them.
@condorX2
@condorX2 3 жыл бұрын
The rich does it too. Here are some examples. Warning. Don't read if you're a genuinely caring parent. National Guard soldier killed herself after being gang-raped by colleagues: mom www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Xg9d6SS?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Firefighter and wife ‘raped daughter, 7, to teach her how to have a baby and stitched up her bloody wounds after attack’ www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Xqm8izB?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Mom Dressed Up Daughter, 9, in Playboy Costume and Pin Her Down While Men Molest Her www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XXspGTS?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Police: Woman dismembered while alive, then killed after 'disrespecting' fiancé's name www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Y2FIecv?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Florida Man, Thinking He Hears a Home Intruder, Shoots and Kills His Pregnant Wife: 'My Life is Over www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XXrPBv6?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Alleged child rapist flees hospital after learning 11-year-old is pregnant www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XNLohdR?s=a99&pd=04heUi19&lang=en_US Young Teen Impregnated by ‘Sick’ Stepfather Chokes Baby to Death With Toilet Paper www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XQjMJRu?s=a99&pd=04heUi19&lang=en_US 2 abducted girls recovered after being taken from home where 2 boys were found dead, officials say www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XQOK7rY?s=a99&pd=04heUi19&lang=en_US Mom gets 40 years in deaths of 2 babies left in trash bags www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XXizPxb?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Susan Smith, convicted of killing her young sons, could be freed in 2024 www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XgBBXjX?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Drug trafficker executed for kidnapping and raping teen, burying her alive www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XhWJa9a?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Texas Mother Raped 12-Year-Old Son On Bed Then Told Him To ‘Go Clean Himself Up’ www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XkAWyyo?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Man 'killed wife and daughter after losing influence over them' www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XsMn3aV?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Man with torture dungeon who plotted to eat children asks for compassionate release from prison www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Xt7D84l?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 Father Arrested After Allegedly Decapitating Daughter and Son Over COVID-19 Stress www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0Xuagqci?s=a99&pd=04heUi19 4-year-old boy was likely caged, investigators say www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0XuVjBPn?s=a99&pd=04heUi19
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing woman. How awful that she was set up for such a life ... which set her up for such an end. Life was horribly hard for women alone or cast off by people who would not care.
@bettymunguia2136
@bettymunguia2136 Жыл бұрын
I love your stories of History 😊
@TimoteoDeBaum
@TimoteoDeBaum 3 жыл бұрын
This would make a beautiful movie with a story of a resilient and intelligent woman who made life work for her instead of the other way around. Fascinating thanks for sharing
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, thanks for watching 😀
@Whipslinger1
@Whipslinger1 3 жыл бұрын
There WAS such a film called Memoirs of a Geisha.
@onyx201002
@onyx201002 3 жыл бұрын
Memoirs of a Geisha
@donaldwarriner1640
@donaldwarriner1640 5 ай бұрын
What a fascinating story to recount. The unbelievable struggles of people told so beautifully. Thank you.
@18000rpm
@18000rpm 3 жыл бұрын
Was wondering what's the "Jing Dynasty". It's Qing, pronounced "Ching".
@JulieBall-dg2ci
@JulieBall-dg2ci 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, also Cao is mispronounced
@BlissfulBluebell
@BlissfulBluebell 3 жыл бұрын
I blame the pingyin spelling. Only for chinese is it crazy 😅
@mllex2018
@mllex2018 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s qing dynasty. Pronounce ching.
@WholeHeartily
@WholeHeartily 3 жыл бұрын
He says some English things funny to my American ears too.
@ebonyloveivory
@ebonyloveivory 3 жыл бұрын
@@JulieBall-dg2ci Yes, correct~ he pronounced it as Cow.
@emilymalden3310
@emilymalden3310 3 жыл бұрын
I adore learning the lesser known people in world history.
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. They should do one for the last Korean princess Deok Hye.
@susanyoung5447
@susanyoung5447 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I enjoy the stories you post so very much. Thank you for all the research you do and then are so generous as to share with us. I also enjoy your voice. You enunciate beautifully, making sure we are able to understand everything you say.
@cottoncandy4486
@cottoncandy4486 2 жыл бұрын
Great story telling as usually.
@vononymous8054
@vononymous8054 3 жыл бұрын
This is tragic 😢. Human beings are Strong 💪🏾💪 ....WOW! Your stories amaze me , encourage me to stay kind and 💪🏾💪🏾, not change direction to elevate myself and others or focus in a negative or inhumane way and open my eyes and mind. Thank you, Thank God 🙏🏾🙏
@Ritercrazy
@Ritercrazy 3 жыл бұрын
I like that, stay kind.
@primesspct2
@primesspct2 3 жыл бұрын
A very well written video , and well documented with photos and pictures! I loved the video FL!!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@cherrycordiaI
@cherrycordiaI 3 жыл бұрын
She took the cards she was dealt and played them well. A sad life, yeah, but one well lived I think.
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this one, I really enjoyed learning about the Lady. I would love to hear more stories from China.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much ! I'll love to do more, just need to find good people to cover !
@AnimegirlJ-xm8ie
@AnimegirlJ-xm8ie 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about the name sometimes different dialects say things different like my grandmas last name in Cantonese I’d dong but in mandarin it is different
@patricialong5767
@patricialong5767 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! A truly resourceful woman indeed!
@lizapany9728
@lizapany9728 3 жыл бұрын
A fascinating history about a courtesan from China.
@Story-Voracious66
@Story-Voracious66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Forgotten Lives. She certainly was an interesting character. It so sad though when a person in such precarious circumstances becomes embittered and abusive. Bad Karma. 🀄🀄🀄
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😀
@ลีมิงฮวด
@ลีมิงฮวด 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenLivesa
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting but sad story! Thank you for sharing!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as usual!
@mariach46
@mariach46 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I found you here Betty 🤗
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariach46 Hi maria! I see we have another channel in common!
@mariach46
@mariach46 3 жыл бұрын
@@bettyjames4155 Yes we have. Lol We are like groupies 😄🤣
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariach46 🤣
@Nyctophora
@Nyctophora 3 жыл бұрын
You do a great job of presenting everything in a very even-handed way!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D
@franciscoponce2492
@franciscoponce2492 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and sad storyline of this courtesan they should make a movie out her life story seems very interesting 👀👏💞💋.
@layanut
@layanut 3 жыл бұрын
There was actually a Hong Kong tv series made of her in the 80s.
@onyx201002
@onyx201002 3 жыл бұрын
Memoirs of a Gesha movie could loosely fit, sans the foot-binding and her having a child. Great movie!
@kellylawrence9438
@kellylawrence9438 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the effort you put into all your videos. It's really amazing and makes me want to learn so much more and I have definitely done a few google searches from these. Much love and respect to you my friend. Thank you again. 💗
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 💞
@OWOT-re5jf
@OWOT-re5jf 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great narrative voice. Cool and smart guy!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@twsanay5137
@twsanay5137 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love for them to make a TV drama series about this powerful women.
@Theturtleowl
@Theturtleowl 3 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel again, after watching a few videos but I forgot to save any of them in order to watch more, now I simply subscribed to avoid that a second time. The atmosphere in the videos is really nice. We are speaking of people with very interesting lives, but also with the same pain and happiness as we feel. The music and your voice combine very well to make the story not seem overly dramatic, which I really like. Keep it up!
@Janeofbucks
@Janeofbucks 3 жыл бұрын
What a strong woman! Life is all about survival. But she wasn’t money smart at all!
@zeusathena26
@zeusathena26 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job as always, thank you!
@SJTJ
@SJTJ 3 жыл бұрын
Her feet weren’t bound by rope, it was a custom called “foot binding”
@KuriaSecunda
@KuriaSecunda 3 жыл бұрын
Her name would be pronounced Jin-Hua (h as in hey) not Ji-Nhua (silent h) in reference to the characters for gold (jin) and flower (hua). Not to nitpick but you seem like someone who makes a real effort to get things right in your videos.
@debbralehrman5957
@debbralehrman5957 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sylviapaints
@sylviapaints 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I had no knowledge of this lady. Thank you
@berenicewaters4096
@berenicewaters4096 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing story wiry a sad end. Thanks for the content.
@PamelaTitterington
@PamelaTitterington Жыл бұрын
I would love to know more about this exceptional lady,it was so interesting,🤗
@chromegirl7546
@chromegirl7546 3 жыл бұрын
"Her feet were bound by rope." I don't think you know what foot-binding was. The bones were broken, then the feet were bent into a crescent shape, then tightly wrapped with strips of fabric. Wrappings were changed about once a week. The goal was to remove flesh by letting it rot, and also by compressing the feet to make them very small. They didn't tie the feet together, nor, as far as I know, rope was not used for any part of the process.
@katesims2346
@katesims2346 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on foot binding. Wasn't sure that pressing like button would have been appropriate as it's a terrible practice.
@TippyPuddles
@TippyPuddles 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't profess to be an expert on foot binding. I think he might have read that as a description of the process. Another culture might call the strips of fabric "rope", or the translation got messed up.
@sugakookies8063
@sugakookies8063 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice reminds me of Harden’s(?) from the movie “After” for some reason😂 Interesting but really sad story - I feel bad for her. She was very strong😕
@endor8witch
@endor8witch 3 жыл бұрын
i've never heard of her and what a life!
@kathleenroman9379
@kathleenroman9379 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed because of your wonderful narrative! TYTY! ❤️❤️🙏❤️❤️
@creepellascarvella5138
@creepellascarvella5138 3 жыл бұрын
These are my faves. Thanks for your work🖤
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much :)
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload ☺️ as ALWAYS 😊
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure as always!
@freedomunltd
@freedomunltd 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative and fascinating insights into history from a different perspective
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@blackclouds909
@blackclouds909 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much, I learn about people and info I didn't know..great channel!
@makeupboss3568
@makeupboss3568 2 жыл бұрын
She lived quite an interesting life .
@nicolaswaters4130
@nicolaswaters4130 3 жыл бұрын
Excited, thanks!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
:)
@CC-wv1ny
@CC-wv1ny 3 жыл бұрын
Any other Americans here, and loving this video
@noorgonzalez1076
@noorgonzalez1076 Жыл бұрын
Yup yup yup 👍🏽
@angels4225
@angels4225 3 жыл бұрын
I always love stories of courtesans from the past. While their work was perhaps considered less than upstanding They were usually well educated, well traveled, and enjoyed freedoms that regular women did not. It's unfortunate that the job has taken such a negative turn over the last century. Although I am aware that wasn't the case for all women in that profession. At least they had the hope they could work to that level of freedom in that profession.
@OstblockLatina
@OstblockLatina 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is important to mention for those uninformed that the image at 6:28 depicts the Japanese allies of the British side of the conflict, and not the Chinese boxers. As there are still too many people around the world who lack the knowledge to tell Japanese from the Chinese, which is a mistake of the proportion of not being able to tell the Germans from i.e. the English in the WWII...
@KS-ql2zd
@KS-ql2zd 3 жыл бұрын
This story reminds me a lot about a Webtoon called, "Delusion"
@HeronCoyote1234
@HeronCoyote1234 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. She was beautiful. And obviously smart, especially being a woman in those times.
@riasanders771
@riasanders771 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you!!🤗
@EMK3044
@EMK3044 3 жыл бұрын
please do more courtesans stories there really intersting
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Will do 🙂
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent research always🙌🏻
@bibbeyracing
@bibbeyracing 4 ай бұрын
Love all your videos
@sheilayoung8007
@sheilayoung8007 3 жыл бұрын
What a sad sorry, however, she was a very resilient woman! Thanks FL, this was an enjoyable story !
@swedishpiggi
@swedishpiggi 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a life she had, Hugs from Sweden
@swedishpiggi
@swedishpiggi 3 жыл бұрын
@Vanilla bhabi g¡rl I actualy agree,thinking on moving to Denmark...
@swedishpiggi
@swedishpiggi 3 жыл бұрын
@Vanilla bhabi g¡rl Thank you so much my dear sister, yeah,everything a "real" Swedish person say or do to stand up for our self is considering racist, but the real racists are the emigrants, and our crappy goverment lives in a bubble and not in reality, so screw them! We have no chance at all. All scumbags who is refused in other countries have free entrance to Sweden there they are over and beyond our laws.... And as I was saying, we cant do a thing. Maby you have suggestions of countries who is nice and fair and treats and respect ppl who obey the law ,that I maby can concider to move? Much love to you, and once again, Thank You
@gailhandschuh1138
@gailhandschuh1138 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. Happy Thanksgiving 2020🤓🤓🦃🦃🦃
@nicolevarnam2290
@nicolevarnam2290 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Work as Always💙Thanks So Much🖤
@Agapy8888
@Agapy8888 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Far East persuasion. Thank you for a great narration and your research.
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 3 жыл бұрын
Hiya 💐 and Nanight, take care XXX 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️
@Agapy8888
@Agapy8888 3 жыл бұрын
@@janetcw9808 Gnight to you dear friend. I’ll be heading to bed in a few hours. It’s still early back here.
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there Ayape!
@Agapy8888
@Agapy8888 3 жыл бұрын
@@bettyjames4155 Betty hi. Just finished watching FL. a second time. Hope you are well. My turn to go to sleep. Until the morrow on Crime Reel. Cheers.
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
@@Agapy8888 Sleep well 😴
@lauraballinger1927
@lauraballinger1927 3 жыл бұрын
A fascinating history of this woman's life!
@jewell92
@jewell92 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mort. We really appreciate it!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually Mort's brother 😅
@judytam2835
@judytam2835 3 жыл бұрын
Such a rough and sad life of her getting thrown here and there. I would not survive like this . Great story!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible family, sent her to a 'floating brothel'. Out living a child is terrible to live with, as I know to my cost. Poor woman. Thanks so much for your work and information. Polite question. Adverts prior, during and after your videos. How many am I meant to put up with to assist your channel pls? Kindest Wishes Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🗺️ 🍀
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Janet!
@mrsevelync6900
@mrsevelync6900 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that 😔❤
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for watching and support! And you don't have to put up with any if you don't want to!
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenLives Go For it, it might remind us of stuff but we have the choice to listen or not. Kindest Wishes Xxx
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 3 жыл бұрын
@@bettyjames4155 Hiya Betty Love Xxx
@skottmuncey1529
@skottmuncey1529 3 жыл бұрын
Cool new episode FL. Very interesting! Stay Safe Dude!😃
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ☺️
@peggyjaeger9280
@peggyjaeger9280 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing us another fascinating story from the Far East!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!!
@chanchoykein6670
@chanchoykein6670 3 жыл бұрын
U have a good clear voice n interesting ways of telling this story too
@joanscott8698
@joanscott8698 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Never heard of the lady before. She lived in vastly changing times.
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@purcelllash7177
@purcelllash7177 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I enjoyed this very much!
@Anita-k
@Anita-k 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating life and great video, research very well done!
@cindytait2209
@cindytait2209 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing...love these stories thank you so much
@ellaw356
@ellaw356 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was a great video!
@lb8141
@lb8141 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best!
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!!!
@hpyles30241
@hpyles30241 3 жыл бұрын
Sad yet amazing life. Thankyou!
@Asplera
@Asplera 3 жыл бұрын
Her name is written in Chinese Pin Yin, though use the same set of alphabets as English, is pronounced differently. Her name should be pronounced as “Sai - Jin - Hua (Prettier than Golden Flower)
@lanacampbell-moore4549
@lanacampbell-moore4549 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone 🦃 & Thank You FL👌😁
@andreadwhite3623
@andreadwhite3623 3 жыл бұрын
Happy thanksgiving, thank you from New Jersey
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 3 жыл бұрын
Good wishes.
@bettyjames4155
@bettyjames4155 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving to you also!🦃
@ForgottenLives
@ForgottenLives 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😀
@joanscott8698
@joanscott8698 3 жыл бұрын
And to you!
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