The Literal Biggest Fat Loss Mistake that Stopped me from Getting Under 12% Body Fat

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Thomas DeLauer

Thomas DeLauer

Күн бұрын

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@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 15 күн бұрын
My “whole food” meal plan is FREE. Teaches how to eat for fat loss, muscle building and longevity. www.thomasdelauer.com/eatrealfood - consider it my “thank you” for subscribing to my channel and newsletter!
@Lucida1818
@Lucida1818 14 күн бұрын
🙏❤️
@FaithMok1
@FaithMok1 13 күн бұрын
The link only gives 25% off, not 50%. can you help with this?
@jimmymhoney44
@jimmymhoney44 15 күн бұрын
I feel like this is a great video for me to leave this comment. I was over 330lbs once and now I am around 220lbs. It was slow and steady process that lasted over a year. I started with walking (6k steps per day), increased my water intake (min. 14 glasses of water per day), swapped sweets with fruits. And I also took a meal plan from OnlyMeal and that was game changer. I have never been hungry, and pounds just fell off. Honestly a recommendation for everyone.
@Thomasdelauerfan_aza
@Thomasdelauerfan_aza 15 күн бұрын
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@Eric3Frog
@Eric3Frog 14 күн бұрын
What is a sample day of your meal plan?
@crypticcommand9873
@crypticcommand9873 14 күн бұрын
congrats on your success! keep going!
@nomsky4719
@nomsky4719 14 күн бұрын
walk&water are the main thing, stop eating industry food and you are golden!
@mann8098
@mann8098 13 күн бұрын
It might have been steady but not slow! Congrats. You must have cleared/ healed many health issues that you knew you had a some that you didn't know you had.
@itzikca
@itzikca 15 күн бұрын
That is so true, if i have a cheat day or two, it’s a week of suffering and being hungry to get back to baseline and until all the cravings go away.
@naloboy7450
@naloboy7450 15 күн бұрын
And the water retention sucks! Lol. I can gain like 8 lbs in a weekend and didn't even eat too many surplus calories.
@jkllupo3736
@jkllupo3736 15 күн бұрын
Walk walk walk
@charlesfuchs
@charlesfuchs 15 күн бұрын
You must have no Discipline in life
@NwaDiOma
@NwaDiOma 15 күн бұрын
@charlesfuchs wow how did you figure out the life of a complete stranger from one KZbin comment? Teach us!
@charlesfuchs
@charlesfuchs 15 күн бұрын
@@NwaDiOma What a loser lol
@DrDoktor60
@DrDoktor60 15 күн бұрын
Deficit on weekdays, maintenance on weekends. Works for me
@TerryDoesTech
@TerryDoesTech 15 күн бұрын
Just switched to this as well! The refeeding days are great 🤝
@wardencobb7442
@wardencobb7442 15 күн бұрын
I'm so glad that Thomas explains each step on multiple levels. It lets me convert facts and advice into logical, usable, practical knowledge to apply to any questions I have through the day.
@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc
@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@lindag9975
@lindag9975 15 күн бұрын
Thanks. I don't need cheat meals because I have all kinds of delicious whole and natural foods from which to choose when I am hungry.
@DashingPartyCrasher
@DashingPartyCrasher 15 күн бұрын
Exactly! 💯 Me too
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@trevnti
@trevnti 10 күн бұрын
Must be nice to not enjoy food. I envy you.
@brooks8439
@brooks8439 15 күн бұрын
Wow I needed this vid! Been following your channel since I was in high school and now I’m 24. Love seeing your growth! Love the interviews too
@docbrady3012
@docbrady3012 15 күн бұрын
I do what I call the compensation style of eating when I'm in a fat loss or maintenance mode. If I know I'm going to have a 'cheat' meal that is going to put me into a large calorie surplus for the day, or week even, I compensate by fasting or significantly decreasing my calorie intake for the day or week (which I got from one of TD's earlier vids). I don't do this weekly but only on 'special' occasions which in turn makes it from time to time. I generally follow the protocol he went over in the video though. I MOVE A LOT and enjoy smaller portions of 'cheat' foods throughout the day. Side note; One of the biggest game changers when it came to staying lean all year round was increasing my NEAT. I started moving a lot more and increased my step count. I went from average 10, 000 to 15,000 and that pretty much gave me the availability to eat what I want, relatively speaking.
@micaheldey1981
@micaheldey1981 13 күн бұрын
Exactly. That was the cheat code for me. Started getting 10K a day then kept pushing myself. I average 15k now and push for 20k. Some days I get 20K or more just depends, but I can eat almost anything now in moderation. Just stay away from alcohol if you are trying to get jacked or ripped, it never lets you get over the hump.
@biancast-g7274
@biancast-g7274 15 күн бұрын
That was perfectly understandable and so true Keep the good job Thomas Thank you
@HenleyHenderson
@HenleyHenderson 15 күн бұрын
A chocolate protein shake with blueberries is usually my cheat meal
@chrisandjessaltman2263
@chrisandjessaltman2263 15 күн бұрын
😂.... my cheat meal is similar. Stoneyfield Whole milk Plain yogurt, I add some cinnamon and vanilla (with a little stevia sometimes). Then I dip a cup or so of frozen strawberries in it. If I have the extra money, or it's on sale, I will get my preferred Blackberries and raspberries. If I have more than 1 cup of berries I feel miserable for days. Same with the yogurt. I'm vegan, so it's a definite cheat for me and I feel the hunger for days after. That's why my "cheat" meal is actually my refeed when I'm feeling super weak and my skin starts going flaky. I have extreme anorexia. I restrict and advoid. My berries and yogurt are about once a quarter. Sometimes I don't have the yogurt and just the berries when I'm not feeling carnivorous.
@charlesfuchs
@charlesfuchs 15 күн бұрын
Life sucks for ya
@petergrill5914
@petergrill5914 15 күн бұрын
​@@charlesfuchslol triggered
@kompassorpigo7600
@kompassorpigo7600 15 күн бұрын
@ stop projecting. Just because you're addicted doesn't mean everyone is.
@petergrill5914
@petergrill5914 14 күн бұрын
@@kompassorpigo7600 triggered
@JustJ001
@JustJ001 15 күн бұрын
I always hated doing cheat meals in the context of what most people think of as a cheat meal, like going to a fast food restaurant, getting pizza, having ice cream, things that are high calorie extremely low nutrient density. Instead what i found was a lot better way of doing it was to look at my healthy diet, pick out the things that i really enjoy the most and allow myself to have slightly more of those as a treat not a cheat. I still get the perceived reward but with the higher nutrient density and better metabolic regulation.
@papagreco
@papagreco 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, my cheat is having a protein bar, whey protein shake with organic wild blueberries, tallow or coconut oil organic popcorn. or peanut butter on an organic rice cake. 🤪 I believe most folks would consider these diet foods, but they stray from my animal protein, salt and water diet.
@JustJ001
@JustJ001 15 күн бұрын
@@papagreco the protein shake and wild berries is one of my favorite combinations!
@ababy6074
@ababy6074 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't even like, let alone crave, those kinds of cheat meals. I love healthy whole foods so I guess I don't 'cheat'
@trevnti
@trevnti 10 күн бұрын
But that’s not a cheat. That’s just sticking within your lifestyle choices. Like man you get to have extra salad… Like in already suffering everyday eating like this, getting more isn’t a cheat. It’s healthy, and what I should do but it’s not a cheat. Like oooo extra olive oil in your food… I feel this only works if you don’t love food:
@MrBiggharv
@MrBiggharv 15 күн бұрын
The high calorie day, then low cal day is nice 👌🏽 💯
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@Michael-r3d
@Michael-r3d 13 күн бұрын
15 years ago this was called a Yo-Yo diet and it was considered bad
@MrBiggharv
@MrBiggharv 13 күн бұрын
@Michael-r3d thats true. I don't do this regularly. But if I do have a higher calorie day, I like to back off a little the next day. 💯
@austinwilkes8556
@austinwilkes8556 15 күн бұрын
Every time I have a cheat meal, I feel terrible so I gave them up
@chrisandjessaltman2263
@chrisandjessaltman2263 15 күн бұрын
Same here
@suzannecarrier287
@suzannecarrier287 15 күн бұрын
Great video!
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@Rayiquazi
@Rayiquazi 15 күн бұрын
Fastest I shredded fat was eating high protein and normal caloric intake one day and fasting the next day. Fat was melting off.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@micaheldey1981
@micaheldey1981 13 күн бұрын
That’s interesting, I fast for days or hours but I’ve never did that kind of split. That’s definitely doable. Thanks for posting this.
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog 15 күн бұрын
A cheat meal is more psychologically rewarding though. Little cheats here and there aren’t as enjoyable. It’s also harder to exercise self-restraint. One scoop of ice cream turns into the whole pint.
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@Thomasdelauerfan_aza 15 күн бұрын
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@kathynewkirk683
@kathynewkirk683 14 күн бұрын
I mostly cook at home. That way I eat healthy nutritious meals. When we do go out to eat, which is rarely more than twice a month, I find a way to make it ketogenic, prioritize protein, leave the bread, veggies instead of starches, and for cocktails, I’ll have a vodka soda or a carbliss, a 0 carb drink. If we are going to an upscale place 1-2 glasses of dry red wine or a martini. If we go out for pizza, maybe 2x Year, I eat 1-2 slices, leave the outer crust, and a lite beer. And I don’t feel like I’m missing out. Damage control. It’s a consciously controlled event. Split a slice of lava cake and coffee with my hubby on our anniversary, sooo good. I do this when I’m with my friends too. They see me a healthy person. I never feel weird! It’s about the experience, not the food…. Of course, I didn’t do this until I hit my goal weight. I continue to eat maintenance, low carb, high protein and healthy fats. It’s not a diet, it’s a healthy lifestyle and we do need to enjoy life…
@misecarp
@misecarp 15 күн бұрын
I think it's important to distinguish these studies that are regularly scheduled frequent cheat meals on standard calorie deficit vs moderate refeed cheat meals that are tied to stalls in low carb or fasting diets. This just tells me that yes, the 6 days strict to lose your mind on Sunday diet of the '00s is not good, but I think we've all figured that out.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@TraceyPoland
@TraceyPoland 15 күн бұрын
I am always curious why you are trying to stay at competition level body fat? Are you currently in competition for your physique? Or is it for sponsorships?
@dennisolsen7953
@dennisolsen7953 15 күн бұрын
Ped's
@papagreco
@papagreco 15 күн бұрын
It’s called optimum fitness level for sustained health, wellness and longevity.
@dennisolsen7953
@dennisolsen7953 15 күн бұрын
@@papagreco 🤣🤣
@chrisarksey
@chrisarksey 15 күн бұрын
Sells products better
@Iron1793
@Iron1793 15 күн бұрын
It’s because nobody would watch videos of an “influencer” talking about health and wellbeing that starts gaining body fat and looking fluffy. He has to stay low bf. A lot of other KZbinrs talk about it.
@shirosurfer8864
@shirosurfer8864 11 күн бұрын
What a banger advice
@JustJ001
@JustJ001 15 күн бұрын
I have found a combination that I really like that some people may find useful to be higher carb low fat on high output days, low carb high fat on lower output days, and low carb low fat on recovery days. Granted that is assuming a high protein intake across the board but I focus the type of energy where it is needed. That allows my cheat days to be my recovery days, which are going to involve a large amount of BBQ chicken, steamed vegetables, melted cheese and teriyaki...yummm! Or maybe a good slow cooker chicken cabbage and onion soup.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@derricklizana4065
@derricklizana4065 15 күн бұрын
Lol..that ex girlfriend example was funny
@StreetTruckinTitan
@StreetTruckinTitan 15 күн бұрын
Thomas's wife is going ...Huh?????
@KevinBurke-x9n
@KevinBurke-x9n 15 күн бұрын
I don't have cheat days, I have cheat snacks everyday. I track calories in/out and make sure my total calorie intake is roughly (33%/33%/33%) protein/carbs/fats . Every big meal is centered around protein with healthy fats and carbs layered in. If I'm going to over do it, I'll increase protein and decrease carbs and when I mean over do it I mean like 200-300 extra calories once in awhile. However, big carbo days will require more carb intake. Been working so far, as I've gone from 265 lbs to 200 lbs in one year and I never think of it as dieting.
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@euerlehrer9352
@euerlehrer9352 10 күн бұрын
This adaptation of thermogenesis might indeed be accurate if researchers have discovered it. However, I find it quite surprising. Personally, over the past three years, I have lost a little over 80 kilograms, and my Basic Metabolic Rate has continuously increased from approximately 15 kilocalories per kilogram to currently 27 kilocalories per kilogram. I can’t imagine it being any other way. With severe obesity, mitochondrial health is poor, and muscle mass is low. When one loses weight - and loses weight correctly - mitochondrial health improves, which increases the Basic Metabolic Rate, and muscle mass improves, which also increases the Basic Metabolic Rate. This adaptive effect seems very strange to me.
@ElenaKamesh76
@ElenaKamesh76 15 күн бұрын
Ciao from Italy, this is my problem. I'm Ketovore then on holidays, birthdays, i cook traditional food with organic stone milled flour,black rice etc.. with a lot of meat for 2-3days. Then end up hungry wanting more, sweet cravings. I cook keto cakes so at least that wont spike glucose. when i started i was 50kg now almost 60kg gained 10kg😂 not funny😢 I fast also, take vitamins study always, looks like must stop eat those meals only for guests😂😢
@icekekiri
@icekekiri 15 күн бұрын
I dont really do cheat meals because i still eat the same food as before, but just in smaller portion. So i dont have intense cravings
@monokheros5373
@monokheros5373 15 күн бұрын
according to SOME the only way to lose weight is to be in a caloric deficit hypothesis by avoiding any Caloric Deficits in a diet ... the Adaptive Thermogenesis increases the amount of resting calories burned per day .... until some form of homeostasis is achieved and a good body mass index is achieved closer 10% then 20% body fat
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@Biodoc100
@Biodoc100 14 күн бұрын
Very interesting! This discussion was in the context of generalized calorie restriction. How would you incorporate this advice into an IF or time restricted feeding approach?
@davidzaharik5408
@davidzaharik5408 15 күн бұрын
What about insulin?
@picsl8ed867
@picsl8ed867 15 күн бұрын
We're very different people. I enjoy cheat stuff more when I can eat my fill of it, and yes I do sometimes get cravings afterwards, but I fight it off easy enough given that my fat/protein centered diet is very satiating. So a nice, horribly unhealthy pleasure stop every 2 or so weeks is good for me. Sticking to my diet also helps me justify it when the time comes, so I'm getting a benefit both ways. It's basically my reward and encouragement not to fall off the wagon. (also my low carb diet eats all my grocery money anyway, it's not like I can buy a pizza everyday or doordash like some people; I literally can't afford to go off my diet more than a few days a month lol)
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@Thomasdelauerfan_aza 15 күн бұрын
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@HateDietPepsi
@HateDietPepsi 15 күн бұрын
I enjoy your videos. Could you do a little more on sprint interval training?
@papagreco
@papagreco 15 күн бұрын
HIIT is the best tool to stoke your metabolism.
@HateDietPepsi
@HateDietPepsi 15 күн бұрын
@@papagreco Actually, some newer data suggest that sprint interval training is better.
@kompassorpigo7600
@kompassorpigo7600 15 күн бұрын
It's not about body fat %. It's about waist circumference.
@GeeeEm61
@GeeeEm61 15 күн бұрын
I guess one achieves the other. Lower your body fat and ultimately you’ll reduce your waist circumference. As someone who is 12.5% body fat, but with 1.6% of that being visceral fat, I’m living this, ie, working on the VF to reduce my waist circumference.
@kompassorpigo7600
@kompassorpigo7600 14 күн бұрын
@@GeeeEm61 body fat isn't the issue, health-wise or aesthetically. A big gut is the issue. Lots of skinny men with big bellies.
@GeeeEm61
@GeeeEm61 14 күн бұрын
@@kompassorpigo7600 yes. I put my belly circumference down to my visceral fat level. My hip to waist ratio is above optimum.
@merraki5991
@merraki5991 15 күн бұрын
You always teach me something. I definitely had no clue. I thought a weekly deficit was a deficit. This shows it is more complex than calories in calories out. Also, with those creatine gummies (I am very new to creatine) would a woman take the same amount as a man or is it based on weight or just a general dose per the package?
@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc
@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@sel7245
@sel7245 15 күн бұрын
Why have cheat meals ? Its like an alcoholic having cheat drinks.
@Drgluee
@Drgluee 15 күн бұрын
Correct!
@Marcel-m5o
@Marcel-m5o 15 күн бұрын
Thats why i fast to overcome the feelings of craving. After that i didnt need snacks and cheat meals.
@georgebush8201
@georgebush8201 15 күн бұрын
Very good point
@picsl8ed867
@picsl8ed867 15 күн бұрын
Because sometimes I like to be reminded it is possible to feel pleasure in life and that it's worth living. I don't need it every day, or every week even, but SOMETIME. Otherwise I might as well be Data from TNG; an android unable to feel or enjoy anything.
@sel7245
@sel7245 15 күн бұрын
If cheats meals/alcohol reminds you of the possibility to feel pleasure and life..Something inside and/or outside you is not what you need... It could of cause "just" be a matter of calorie intake. if you are eating 1000 cal / 2 meals a day. But your body needs 3000. Its not easy to "have a life". So "cheats" become a need. 2 meals / 2500 cal would "bring life back" and cheats out. Cycles of 8 weeks weight loss/ 8 weeks Maintenance (not gaining weight), might work for some. And let you get rid of mental "weightloss" fatigue
@rwfan2u
@rwfan2u 15 күн бұрын
Every day I log my food into my online food diary, and notice that I have a real difficult time eating even 1500 calories on my eating days! I'm not vegetarian or vegan; I have meat eggs or fish with every meal. I find myself having a bowl of pork rinds or Greek yogurt just to try to eat enough calories, plus to get a little extra protein. And even though I Work out six days a week, I don't see ANY improvement!
@chrisandjessaltman2263
@chrisandjessaltman2263 15 күн бұрын
I'm a vegan, sometimes a vegetarian. The Amish market down the street makes their own pork cracklins. The most killer pork cracklins ever. They are probably my dirtiest cheat or all time. They know me well, they will make them with very little salt for me as long as I give them a weeks notice. But I only have them on my birthday, so they already know when I'm going to want them. They usually have them already ready for me. Then the give me an extra container as a gift. They are so very kind. And they love my littles. They give them free cookies and taste tests of all the sweets and deli meats when we go in there. I swear my baby Abel buys all of their smoked ham. He asks for it cut an inch thick, and for a whole pound.... then he smashes on it in the car and it's gone before we even get home. He's a total trip 😂. He's autistic, but the most beautiful sweetheart, he's high functioning and they already want to skip him a grade in school. I think I have a little genius on my hands.
@rwfan2u
@rwfan2u 15 күн бұрын
@@chrisandjessaltman2263Sometimes it feels like autistic people, particularly high functioning, have intelligence that baffles!
@qT_p13
@qT_p13 15 күн бұрын
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@charlesfuchs
@charlesfuchs 15 күн бұрын
Can people just be normal and be fit and eat. damn
@MrStoffzor
@MrStoffzor 15 күн бұрын
Not in the society we live in.
@papagreco
@papagreco 15 күн бұрын
Yes, but what the western world has determined to be normal is damaging our health. The standard American diet (SAD) of Ultra-processed Food-like substances (UPFs), seed oils and sugars (i.e. carbohydrates) are the primary contributors to the worldwide obesity epidemic, chronic metabolic and autoimmune diseases. People are loosing limbs, going blind and condemned to lifelong kidney dialysis as a result of their diet. Just about all disease can be avoided by proper nutrition. The human body has a remarkable capability to heal itself if given the proper building blocks of fats and proteins. This is what should be normalized.
@bioticsla
@bioticsla 15 күн бұрын
in the US obesity rates are going up, if it was easy to stay fit we wouldnt need nutrition advice
@LIMYIHAN-ik4vg
@LIMYIHAN-ik4vg 15 күн бұрын
For me ,the 80/20 diet that sustainable weight loss and fat loss that help achieve under 10 percent body fat and you can optimised your diet based your personal preference by take some time and effort ,you can take some idea or concept from these article but do not take all idea and concept from these research article due to these article that may focus and work general people but not for you 😢. You can choose to eat cheat meals or not .Remember do not choose these diet work for other people (you can experiment it) ,choose the diet that is unique and works for you 🎉
@truehd5293
@truehd5293 15 күн бұрын
But is it okay to have a cheatmeal that fits in youre deficit?
@konnor9577
@konnor9577 15 күн бұрын
Your organs and brain and imune system and repair system need energy. so if you don't eat all systems will slow down. so the studies with people reducing their BMR permanently after loosing weight, is not just because of the loss of muscle mass. I guess increasing calories and expending more and be at an equilibrium, will increase the BMR again. I don't remember any study examining this.
@Drgluee
@Drgluee 15 күн бұрын
You mean metabolic syndrome? You can't find studies on that???
@konnor9577
@konnor9577 15 күн бұрын
did i talked about high blood preasure, waist size, cholesterol, triglycerides, diabetes ...etc? I was talking about reduced BMR of previously obease people who regain weight. go sleep. when you reduce calories you become metabolically efficient but that's on the cause of your organs using less energy, but how healthy is that.
@Drgluee
@Drgluee 14 күн бұрын
@@konnor9577 How cute you did a google search! At least you tried!
@Drgluee
@Drgluee 14 күн бұрын
@@konnor9577 pppssstt.. Next time you google search try 'metabolic syndrome and BMR' .
@MariaG2570
@MariaG2570 15 күн бұрын
Can you take these creatine gummies during fast?
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@kevinroark5815
@kevinroark5815 15 күн бұрын
Tim Ferris was right about everything almost 15 years ago in 'The 4-hour Body'
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@TJB-zt9tx
@TJB-zt9tx 15 күн бұрын
If your cheat meal is garbage than; garbage in = garbage out. That equation never changes.
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@ThePirateHistory
@ThePirateHistory 15 күн бұрын
10:12 which fasting? like non eat for 16 hrs? or 24 without food and water? or just water for one day?
@bioticsla
@bioticsla 15 күн бұрын
you should always drink during a fast, also 16 hours is just intermittent
@ThePirateHistory
@ThePirateHistory 15 күн бұрын
@@bioticsla so by the video, day eat day fast with just water for 24 hr? or like 3 to 2? 3 eat 2 fast
@bioticsla
@bioticsla 15 күн бұрын
@@ThePirateHistory he's saying skip (food) every other day and eat normally (dont skip water, also black coffee is allowed)
@gerihuginn
@gerihuginn 13 күн бұрын
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@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 15 күн бұрын
I never had any issues with eating what I wanted when i leaned down. I suppose it was because I still walked 15-30km per day at work 4-5 days per week on top of training.. If you can aim for 10-20k fast paced steps per day you should be ok. Eat less, move more
@myt110
@myt110 15 күн бұрын
So that’s the mechanism behind what ppl call “set point theory” or “the body has a memory theory”.
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@HappyWolverine
@HappyWolverine 15 күн бұрын
I can't believe people still do cheat days but then again I do. It's absolutely insane to think you can take a full day and eat like crap and make progress
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@pinnacleroofing9841
@pinnacleroofing9841 15 күн бұрын
If you go from 2500 c per week and drop it to 2000 c per week you may have dropped how much you consume but you didn't drop how much your burning, you lost weight BECAUSE you were burning excess fat, your body was still consuming the 2500. So of course if you go to 3000 c you will gain weight. The drop from 2500 to 2000 was only in intake not usage
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@davespark10 15 күн бұрын
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@JjBlack-gz5zv 15 күн бұрын
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@chrisandjessaltman2263
@chrisandjessaltman2263 15 күн бұрын
My cheat meal is literally plain dark meat turkey with the heart and kidneys (i dont like liver), bone broth, steamed green beans, over easy duck eggs, mushrooms, red onion and garlic, with my fav pecorino romano. And yes, thats a huge cheat for a vegan. Then my dessert is whole milk yogurt with cinnamon, vanilla, stevia, and some berries. Sometimes i dont eat the yogurt. Sometimes ill just sit on my bed and gnaw on my wedge of pecorino. I also love dry mizithra cheese if my cheese counter has it. Its a hit or miss though because it doesnt sell well. Illl drink my homemade stevia sweetened hot cacao with it and actually use a little coconut milk instead of just cacao water. Im anorexic and have type 1 diabetes, celiac, a slue of allergies, IBD, gastroparesis, extremly low blood pressure (80/50), and heart failure. At 29 years old ive had 3 heart attacks from hypokalemia. I really have to watch what i eat. So no fried or salty foods. And no carbs because i refuse to take insulin that makes you fat. Im kinda just scared to eat. So my usual meal is celery and natural peanut butter sprinkled with flaxseeds. I love crazy richard's p.b.. I will have a plain lettuce/leafy green salad (no carrots or cabbage) with a little fresh herbs, evoo, tofu, and walnuts as well. No pepper though, because it makes my nose run and i sneeze and get a scratchy throat with swollen eyes. I eat very basic, kind of like a 1 1/2 meal a day kind of thing. I will have 2 squares or bakers unsweet cacao bar on the side sometimes. I love the bitter sweet taste of it, but i also have a histamine response to it. So its a dirty little cheat for me. Same with my cacao water with stevia. I love it, but dont have it everyday. Because im fairly certain that im allergic to it. I have a reaction simular to when i have nutritional yeast but not as bad. Just smelling yeast in the bread isle makes my entire body swell up. And guess what isle the p.b. is in...... the bread isle. Thats why i order for pickup. Im kinda just waiting to croak at this point. Life is miserable when i cant even enjoy a meal with my family. I cant eat bread or digest meat very well. No sweets, potatoes, or corn. My babies dads favorite meal is steak and potatoes with cornbread or sweet Hawaiian rolls. 😢 i generally just hide away in my room all day and treat my littles to sneaky heath foods like almond flour banana bread and dark chocolate when nobody is around. They dont know its "healthy" food. They eat it just as well as the junk food. I wish my kids father had a better mindset. But i guess im just happy that he meets me halfway and cooks their meat in the oven and makes baked potatoes with real kerrygold. Seed oils and margarine are banned in my house for home cooking. He does buy store pizzas and such occasionally. But atleast im winning a little. Id rather my kids have scrambled eggs made eith whole milk, and no sugar added sausage with wheat toast than a damn pop tart or muffin. I think he just dont understand nutrition as well as i do. Or has trouble with change. Hes in his 40s, old enough to be my dad. So hes probably just set in his ways and ive learned to accept it at this point. He does try as much as he can. I get him to bend a little. I just with corn on the cob and baked potatoes werent the main sides. I do make some killer homemade fudgy brownies, gooey white chocolate blondies and chewy chocolate chunk cookies... grain free and sweetened with coconut sugar. I dont eat them. But noone else is the wiser 🤫. Whatever i make usually dosnt even have time to cool before its gone. I also make p.b. fudge and frosting for sadwich cookies. And i will make whipped cream and put it in sandwich cookies for my littles. For that they like my sugar cookies. Theyre not fans of cinnamon so they like browned butter cookies. Sorry for my long rant. I have nobody to talk to. My littles are tiny, so i usually just hear excited jibberish from them ❤😊. Better than nothing. They are what gets me through the day. They keep me going and force me to move my body. I cant lift them or run with them. But they hold my hand when we walk, and i watch them run off all their energy. I love in ohio with a ton of nature parks around. I can make it through old mans cave with breaks. And the littles love fishing. Beautiful views. And we do alot of sceenic drives with good music. I just wish my health was better so i could do more. I fear that my littles will miss me if something bad happens to me.
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@petersunwoo 15 күн бұрын
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@orion9k
@orion9k 15 күн бұрын
Every dinner feels like a cheatmeal when you been hungry half the day, the joy from any type of beef will be high :)
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@darrellvarner4283
@darrellvarner4283 15 күн бұрын
That's the truth
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@Fabio-jz8zp
@Fabio-jz8zp 15 күн бұрын
I didn’t get if it is good to do “fast day” and “not fast day”….
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@yellads
@yellads 15 күн бұрын
What is the motivation for keeping body fat under 12%
@Drgluee
@Drgluee 15 күн бұрын
vanity.
@qT_p13
@qT_p13 15 күн бұрын
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@howardpearlman6328
@howardpearlman6328 15 күн бұрын
Loved your ex girlfriend/leptin analogy. Hysterical 😅😅😅
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@ODELLCampbell-k1q 13 күн бұрын
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@jbrew434
@jbrew434 15 күн бұрын
FWIW, the creatine gummies advertised at beginning are not “allulose sweetened”; every flavor is sweetened with tapioca syrup and also cane sugar. Just sayin’ that’s not what he put out there. Check stuff carefully. Also all but unflavored LMNT have (probably varying) amounts of maltodextrin. Look up the backlash 👎🏽
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@karinekmk9293
@karinekmk9293 13 күн бұрын
500kcal x 7 days = 3000kcal ? ? ? ?
@solarisdreamz
@solarisdreamz 10 күн бұрын
The ex watching this video be like WTF?
@ThomasRonnberg
@ThomasRonnberg 15 күн бұрын
eat every two days?
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@cgsrtkzsytriul
@cgsrtkzsytriul 15 күн бұрын
So a single 200-300 calorie snack on a hard day is best
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@Lisa-oq7ep 15 күн бұрын
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@vyachad
@vyachad 15 күн бұрын
bro Im at like 10% body fat but about 7%/10% its all on the love handles! how the f do i get rid of those?!?
@ryanthrives5152
@ryanthrives5152 15 күн бұрын
Why on earth would anyone want to be 10%?
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@BluegillGreg
@BluegillGreg 13 күн бұрын
Nobody knows what their "body fat percentage" is. Nobody needs to know what their "body fat percentage" is.
@fnazazel750
@fnazazel750 14 күн бұрын
Can you make a video of me being annoying😂
@lajeit
@lajeit 15 күн бұрын
So... better to have cheat treats with your diet and not cheat days or massive cheat meals. Examples? 😅 How does one increase leptin resistance? I didnt quite understand the ex-girlfriend analogy. Do we just stay in our diet and have some treats and some fasting?
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@brandonlasvegas
@brandonlasvegas 15 күн бұрын
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@Lucida1818
@Lucida1818 14 күн бұрын
Oooooooooooh Thomas, I’m doing the same thing. I am on the roller coaster and finding it difficult getting off the cheat meals. Yes I feel like if I have a cheat meal I can happily continue on my intermittent fasting ketovore diet. That’s not the case for me 😢because then I crave cheat meals for days after! 😔 Okay I’m going to try higher calorie with low calorie and increase exercise after the higher calorie. That is Higher calorie with whole foods. Fruit, yogurt, cheese healthy nuts. 85% dark chocolate 🍫 cashew nut butter. Coconut cream and oil. By the way you look fantastic ❤
@8_bit_Geek
@8_bit_Geek 15 күн бұрын
This is why I’m doomed to start at 15 or 16 body fat
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@2upinvesting
@2upinvesting 15 күн бұрын
Cheat meals shouldn't equate to extra calories. The end.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@tariqs4357
@tariqs4357 15 күн бұрын
A cheat meal doesn't mean BINGE. Whatever i put in my body as a cheat meal, i'm sure to pay it back in output.The ONE cheat meal "Tax" works for me. Keeps me from going crazy, lol.
@FICTORIA
@FICTORIA 15 күн бұрын
You are crazy. Just masking
@kompassorpigo7600
@kompassorpigo7600 15 күн бұрын
That's some crazy mental gymnastics bud. If not a binge, then what is it? It's fine to do it occasionally, but why lie to yourself?
@tariqs4357
@tariqs4357 13 күн бұрын
@@kompassorpigo7600 Lying??? Your PROCTOLOGIST says you're suffering from SEVERE brain damage, get that checked, kid.
@tariqs4357
@tariqs4357 6 күн бұрын
@@kompassorpigo7600 Your Proctologist says you are suffering from severe brain damage, get that checked kid.
@WeSaveWe
@WeSaveWe 15 күн бұрын
This is the tommy d that I like 😂 @8:56
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@FormlessJKD17
@FormlessJKD17 15 күн бұрын
Omad.
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@scottythetrex5197
@scottythetrex5197 15 күн бұрын
Yeah but what constitutes a little cheat meal?
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@Thomasdelauerfan_aza 15 күн бұрын
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@whatnani7372
@whatnani7372 15 күн бұрын
Cool
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@CarbageMan
@CarbageMan 15 күн бұрын
Fasting increases the metabolism. Undereating does not.
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@Hungry-y4h
@Hungry-y4h 15 күн бұрын
This 1 trick will help you with the bags under your eyes. Sleep and water.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@enriqueFelix2000
@enriqueFelix2000 15 күн бұрын
Thats what I told you many years ago... good you realize it after all this time
@recyfer
@recyfer 15 күн бұрын
You're so smart bro I bet your parents are really proud
@pastaoleary3031
@pastaoleary3031 15 күн бұрын
Ahhhhhh, he used "Literal" again!!!
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 15 күн бұрын
I did it just to piss you off. And it’s working
@p2ez
@p2ez 15 күн бұрын
Hey guys I do a handstand everyday on my channel until I master it, if this is something you wanna follow check me out ❤ also love these tips man! I struggle with big cheat meals too
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@CarbageMan
@CarbageMan 15 күн бұрын
Don't tell the CICOpaths this, or they'll go nuts.
@SteakandChains
@SteakandChains 15 күн бұрын
Eat more beef butter bacon and eggs and you won’t suffer at all 😉
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@Matthew-p7u
@Matthew-p7u 15 күн бұрын
Thomas needs to really stop advertising sugar, I understand it’s how he puts food on the table and gets the private yacht but, just 1 gram of sugar can make your cravings return
@Kilroy.402
@Kilroy.402 15 күн бұрын
Thats a crap take when having zero sugar can have negative effects on your health
@cynicist8114
@cynicist8114 15 күн бұрын
@Kilroy.402 There are no negative health effects from consuming zero sugar. I don't understand the cravings thing either. If you go carnivore, you'll have no cravings. I'm on it 24x7, but I could see someone using the diet to lean out and then eating more carbs if they want to bulk. Personally, I just use dairy as a tool for that.
@qT_p13
@qT_p13 15 күн бұрын
You probably need to change your source of sugar
@varunkamal91
@varunkamal91 15 күн бұрын
​@@Kilroy.402 Eating zero fructose can have a negative effect on your health? 😅 Where did you come up with that from?
@helenstaniskov4570
@helenstaniskov4570 14 күн бұрын
@@cynicist8114saying all sugars are the same is like saying all proteins and all fats are the same!
@trumpdrago517
@trumpdrago517 15 күн бұрын
Why is Thomas being deceptive? Create has sugar and more of it than allulose. 3g sugar is how much most gummies have. They just added a pinch of allulose
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 15 күн бұрын
Please don’t accuse me of being deceptive. They have a couple grams of sugar in 3 gummies and that’s for creatine uptake. The primary sweetener is allulose. But additionally, their stick packs are completely sugar free with monk fruit and their daily gummies are also zero sugar.
@trumpdrago517
@trumpdrago517 15 күн бұрын
@ i apologize but it seems deceptive to me because sugar is listed above allulose on the ingredients, so they use more sugar than allulose. I feel the str8 up thing to say was instead of full sugar it uses a third allulose. Just curious for my fellow watchers, how many of you thought they were strictly allulose from the ad? Reminds me of “made with olive oil” in bold then on the back olive oil is the 6th ingredient after seed oils. I feel like they just added allulose so they can try and trick us. The allulose barely adds anything. A gummy with the same 1g sugar taste just as sweet
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 15 күн бұрын
I have no reason to be deceptive here, it’s also why I put the link for their 100% sugar free stick packs for anyone that doesn’t like a couple g of sugar
@FICTORIA
@FICTORIA 15 күн бұрын
#KingThomas
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@nickverduyn7723
@nickverduyn7723 14 күн бұрын
Summary: one study said this another study said that and another study says this......zzzzzzzzzz. Just tell us what the conclusion is and what to do. Nowadays its all about what " a study "said just to find out next year it's not quite the same. If I see another video with someone saying " there is this study that says" Im going to slap someone.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 14 күн бұрын
Enjoy tik tok then. Oh wait… only for a few more weeks
@nickverduyn7723
@nickverduyn7723 14 күн бұрын
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial My government isn't banning TikTok, so no problem here.
@sandrabassett9923
@sandrabassett9923 14 күн бұрын
I think of stephanie and her cheat day
@TransformNatch4U
@TransformNatch4U 15 күн бұрын
I do not understand the American fascination with pizza, burgers, chips, candy, cookies and ice cream. This crapo doesn’t even taste of anything but fat and sugar - there is real food out there, please go find some.
@thomaswipf7986
@thomaswipf7986 15 күн бұрын
You only cheat yourself. Duh
@laralol9167
@laralol9167 15 күн бұрын
Tank’s for your vidéo, please can you translate your video en Arab language.
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@Thomasdelauerfan_aza 15 күн бұрын
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@ConchitaDavey
@ConchitaDavey 13 күн бұрын
I normally don't comment but for everyone reading this go read the hidden herbs by anette ray
@megans657
@megans657 14 күн бұрын
Thomas your eyes are screaming adrenal disfinction. You need to rest and go raw vegan for a while the protein fat is too much for the kidneys. It doesn’t make sense I know, try it for a month and you’ll understand.
@ciprianolopez7559
@ciprianolopez7559 15 күн бұрын
So cheat meals are bad ?
@guibox3
@guibox3 15 күн бұрын
I guess it depends on your goals. If you maintain a caloric deficit and it keeps you sane...go for it. If you want to get under 10% bodyfat that it seems Thomas wanted to do at the time, it probably wouldn't work. For the rest of us..I think we need it.
@AdonisOnX
@AdonisOnX 15 күн бұрын
big cheatmeals are bad yes.
@ronburgandy3339
@ronburgandy3339 15 күн бұрын
My favorite is when wicked fat people or obese people if you will say they need a cheat day. You’ve had a cheat life hahaha you don’t need one.
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@Thomasdelauer_fan_acc 15 күн бұрын
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@VetaLunsford
@VetaLunsford 13 күн бұрын
For everyone reading this, finding the banned book called “the hidden herbs” by anette ray should be your top priority
@SommerWei
@SommerWei 13 күн бұрын
thank you. it seems like you need to be your own doctor these days. for everyone reading this i recommend the book the hidden herbs by anette ray
@GARLANDLay
@GARLANDLay 13 күн бұрын
Everyone watching this go find the book the hidden herbs by anette ray
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