The LNER's big banking engine - LNER U1

[@Paraffinmeister]

I've heard it said that guards had to decide if they wanted the van door open or closed before the U1 buffered up. Once it had and started to shove, the van would bow under the strain and jam it. The guard then had to sit and listen to the van creaking and groaning, hoping it wouldn't buckle, fold up and turn to match wood round them.

[@timesnewlogan2032]

“Douglas worked hard enough for three! I heard him from my yard!” “Two would have been enough.”

[@Paraffinmeister]

@@timesnewlogan2032 I wonder how much of that story was influenced by this?

[@theremoteanater]

I am tempted to work on a short story on this

[@pilotbug6100]

That shows they shoulda just use it to pull the trains up the hill

[@Paraffinmeister]

@@pilotbug6100 not very practical with unfitted, loose coupled trains and also having to couple and un-couple it would have slowed the whole process down massively.

[@TankEngine75]

All the preserved and surviving British Garratts are Narrow Gauge,except for the Standard Gauge NCB William Francis,it's a lovely machine!

[@gemmaleatherbarrow8383]

I've seen all the narrow gauge ones, interested in knowing where the standard gauge ones housed?

[@freakr1xk356]

@@gemmaleatherbarrow8383 William Francis is housed at bressingham steam museum

[@nbc_uk]

@@freakr1xk356 Imagine if Bressingham loaned it out for use on the Mid-Norfolk!

[@freakr1xk356]

@@nbc_uk sadly it doesn’t run atm would be a sight to be seen though

[@the4tierbridge]

Actually, several Beyer-Peacock garratts survive in Africa and Australia.

[@Model_N_Things]

When I was in Bolivia in Potosi i stumbled acrossed one parked on a siding, locals told me it ran up until the 1990s when the bolivian railway finally put it out of service because they couldn't repair it. As far as I know south American countries had a number of Garret Type locomotives! Very good video!!

[@OwenIsDaBoss]

My grandfather saw this loco! He told me about how he observed it push a coal train up the Lickey (need to ask him about where it was exactly) Basically singlehandedly, the 8f at the front gladly taking a break. 'The poor thing at the front basically took the opportunity to get it's breath back whilst the giant casually strolled up with it's train. The load was way too heavy anyway, even for an 8f!'

[@abloogywoogywoo]

Didn't they had to be careful as the U1 monster was capable of destroying, couplings, wagons and overriding brakevans? A real she-bear!

[@carribob1992]

2:37 Fun note about that picture of Big Bertha and the U1 on banking work. The train engine at the head of that train was an LMS Garratt. Also, I've noticed the use of music from Undertale.

[@swordkirbyfilms7747]

I noticed the music too. I think it is the music that plays in the Hotland section of the game.

[@patrick97764]

I also noticed the music from undertale.

[@russellgxy2905]

I love those kinds of occasions. Three engines with each “pair” having something in common. Two garratts, two LMS engines, and two purpose-built bankers

[@cr10001]

That could possibly be the most steam power that any train in Britain ever had.

[@philipstokes2824]

The biggest problem with both the LMS and LNER Garretts was the use of LMS/LNER standard parts off their standard classes instead of standard Beyer Peacock parts.

[@TIMMEH19991]

Especially the LMS Garretts. The dead hand of Derby totally ruined those. Had the LNER had the U1 built how Robinson had envisaged it with basically two O4 "power units" instead of two O2s, it probably would have been a much more versatile loco.

[@AlexHill1991]

In other words Garrett's from Africa Australia and New Zealand are better than British Garrett's because they used successfully tested designs from bayer

[@nigelslade5276]

I remember watching the 59 class Garratts thumping up and downs the tracks between Nairobi and Mombasa. The 59s were the most powerful Garratts, in an any gauge, ever built.

[@lt.danhooper1635]

I know it's not a Garratt, but . . . *cackles in American 4-8-8-4 Union Pacific Big Boy*

[@maxtivey32]

Only just. The NSWGR AD60s were as big, and not much less powerful.

[@ianmandy127]

South african gl had a higher tractive effort than any other garratt

[@nigelslade5276]

@@ianmandy127 No the GL was NOT the most powerful Garratt, it was the 59 class in East Africa , just 0ver 8300 FT/LBS at 85% boiler pressure .and all were modified with Giesl ejector to extract another 3-4 % more power.

[@ianmandy127]

@@nigelslade5276 gls tractive effort at 75% is 78650 lbf and ther class 59 is olny 73543 lbf at 75%.

[@MovetoSEPRAILnTheRealRajo6466]

Australia actually have the same type of class like garrat, AD60 Class and Australian Standard Garrat The wheel base of AD60 Class is 4-8-4 + 4-8-4 While the wheel base of Australian Standard Garrat is 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 AD60 operate on Standard Gauge (1,435 mm), Australian Standard Garrat operate on Cape Gauge (1,067 mm) 4 AD60 was perserved and 38 was scrapped 1 Australian Standard Garrat was perserved and 56 was scrapped

[@ikriestiana]

Hi lol :) Also in ffestiniog railway there is a narrow gauge garrat

[@The_L-3C_Pro]

Yes

[@lukemackie8946]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the AD60 (60 class) garrat similar size to the US UP Big Boy? Like in length?

[@MovetoSEPRAILnTheRealRajo6466]

@@lukemackie8946 Big Boy wheel base is 4-8-8-4 While AD60 Class is 4-8-4 + 4-8-4

[@lukemackie8946]

@@MovetoSEPRAILnTheRealRajo6466 thanks mate, but I was talking about overall length like was the Garrat longer than a big boy?

[@mickd6942]

This used to run past my house way before my time , as a kid I would watch four EM 1 class 76 electrics doing the same job , two lead loco’s and two on rear as bankers , it took so much power no other electric loco could be in section between Aldam junction and west silk stone junction such was the power needed to push coal trains up the worsborough incline , today I regularly cycle on the route , I have heard that such was the power of the Garret that sometimes guards were trapped in they’re van because the frames buckled jamming the doors on the break van

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Great to see the U1 in your series. Had it been fitted with a mechanical stoker the crews would have been happier with it, the railway less I guess, it would have used even more coal as the amount a man could shovel now limited its appetite.

[@johnd8892]

The later Australian standard gauge fleet of about 42 AD60 Garratts saw the sense of using mechanical Stokers for such a larger engine. Here is some great coverage that everyone I provide a link to really likes. The Australian NFSA has some very high standard film and sound of these and others on the main north line around 1968 ; kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4HTeGeqi62Gg7M There is also 6029 running in preservation, mainly on passenger trains.

[@iankemp1131]

The actual coal consumption of the Garratt would not have been that high as power output is not that high at low speeds, and also after the big push up the bank there is a good rest while the loco coasts back down again and waits for the next train. True, the coal demand per engine for a pair of 2-8-0s would be less, but none of these tasks would approach the consistent firing rates and power outputs needed for heavy long-distance expresses, which were the toughest firing jobs.

[@kristlkirk2847]

Can we respecc the fact this man uploads every Friday and they r always so good

[@tylerbonser7686]

No we can't.

[@mikefaulkner5306]

Really great to see a video about the U1. I live 5miles from Wosborough Bank and have ridden up and down on the bike many a time. I would have loved to have seen these at work.

[@TIMMEH19991]

I remember seeing pairs of 76s banking up there as a kid, and my dad remembers seeing this beast banking. We lived in Thurgoland at the time.

[@michaeljefferson4186]

Worsborough, pronounced Wuz-brough.

[@bluebellsfan8704]

It's a shame this engine was scrapped! Looks awesome and great video

[@thothtrismegistus4865]

There's a Beyer Garrett that Australia has, I can't remember the city/town, or railroad, but they raced a Garrett and another steam locomotive one year and I think they do it every year. Amazing to see such a machine alive and running!

[@routeman680]

Just to add. By the time the U1 Garratt was authorized, the Great Central had been grouped with other companies in the LNER. The U1 was designed by Nigel Gresley and not based on the O4 but on his own O2 2-8-0 class built for the Great Northern before the Grouping. The O4s had two cylinders, the O2s had three.

[@andrewclayton4181]

I've heard that when the steam engines used to go under the Malvern Hills on the Hereford - Worcester line, the crews had to lie on the cab floor to try to breath. Narrow bore tunnels, they filled with smoke as the train pulled up the incline.

[@farmerjohn6192]

A visit to the Welsh Highland Railway is well worth a visit for anyone interested in Garratt Locomotives. Whilst they are narrow gauge running on the 2ft they are a big as a standard gauge loco. It makes one imagine how awesome a standard gauge Garratt would look

[@johnd8892]

As well as imagining it is possible to experience a standard gauge Garratt on the flesh and travel behind one in Australia : kzbin.info/www/bejne/moKak61oo9-tqqc The working survivor of a class of 42 built in the early fifties. The Australian NFSA has some very high standard film and sound of these and others on the main north line around 1968 ; kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4HTeGeqi62Gg7M There is also 6029 running in preservation, mainly on passenger trains.

[@cr10001]

The 2' gauge South African NGG Garratts on the Welsh Highland are indeed quite hefty. The 3'6" gauge South African main line Garratts were enormous. (As were their 25NC 4-8-4's). Main Line Steam Trust in New Zealand imported a GMAM Garratt and a couple of 25NC's, I saw them when they were in their workshops in Parnell. They made a NZR Ka class look lightweight by comparison.

[@DudeTheNinja]

I'm surprised that when they realised it kinda sucked as a banking engine, didn't decide to instead use it as a freight-hauling powerhouse. Like, that'd make *way* more sense as the sheer size of it would mean it would give some American locos a run for their money in terms of capability of hauling cargo.

[@TryboBike]

It is quite possible that it made sense for it to bank from the rear, but it would be too powerful to pull stuff - couplers would break.

[@BryPrime917]

@@TryboBike in other words, damn you physics.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@TryboBike “Too powerful to pull trains” And that’s how you know that your loco is a complete badass.

[@pilotbug6100]

@@TryboBike the US are laughing at the British with their buck-eye couplers

[@markturner4219]

@@TryboBike nothing to do with couplers and everything to do with a railway infrastructure built around a notional maximum train length of 100 13 ton mineral wagons. The Gresley P1's demonstrated that. Even with a tractive effort of only 42000lb there were very few routes on the LNER that could handle the lengths of trains they could pull. The 70,000++lbs TE of this engine would never have been fully utilized.

[@Abandonsoyciety]

Garrett and Mallet locomotives are my favorites configurations.

[@sangheiliwarrior86]

An interesting subject for a video, similar to the LNER U1, would be the Beyer Peacock built, soviet operated "YA-01" 4-8-2+2-8-4 Garratt. It was supposedly the largest garratt ever built, and at one point the largest and most powerful steam locomotive in Europe, with a tractive effort of around 90,000 lbs.

[@nigelslade5276]

Russian Garratt tractive effort 78000lbs

[@davprince-dyer759]

I'm from mexborough and it is one of the great steam marvels that we had. If I can find anything else on the loco in one of the mexborough steam books do you want me to send it over? Keep up the good work on these videos always enjoy watching them!

[@TankEngine97]

Do you plan on covering Bullied's Leader at some point? I'm rather curious to hear it's background.

[@F40NJ2CAT]

Same it's interesting

[@Straswa]

Great work ToT!

[@jessefoulk]

This is the first time I've ever seen or heard of this machine. Interesting conversation piece

[@Daan_0172]

Another great video lad, how about a video about the Kittson-still locomotive. That or to be an interesting video.

[@jacobg130productions]

Why isn’t there a OO model of this? This is awesome!

[@nathanchan4653]

There were white metal OO scale kits from DJH models

[@Deuce_and_a_half]

Well I mean there is one remarkably similar to it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raXZc4JjepKnjbc Although the reason why there isn't one of this exact engine is probably: 1. the price 2. the technical problems presented by such a large engine, on the "standard" 2nd radius track that all OO engines are required to run on. 3. It only ran on 2 stretches of track, therefore limiting the people who want to buy it, since a lot of (in my opinion very silly) model railway enthusiasts only model one railway and period and refuse to buy anything else other than the prototypical engines and rolling stock that would run on those lines. So it would not be profitable for the model maker to make this engine, as a lot of potential buyers of more conventional engines wouldn't get it.

[@johnd8892]

Although there are less models of Australian steam locomotives, the Eureka company had as their first locomotive an AD60 Garratt. Sold in two production runs so far for the smaller Australian market : kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4bMYZaDoNJ3Y7c Less attraction in Australia for those tight curves so demanded by the UK 00 market.

[@muir8009]

@@Deuce_and_a_half not really any technical problems for 2nd radius curves. Just like the prototype it's only the length of 1 engine unit, so as long as say a hornby 8f can go around a corner this garratt will too

[@scottfw7169]

@@Deuce_and_a_half About that, "since a lot of (in my opinion very silly) model railway enthusiasts only model one railway and period and refuse to buy anything else other than the prototypical engines and rolling stock that would run on those lines", when a person has a finite supply of time and money in their life & they have a specific look they want their model railway to achieve why would working within that kind boundary be silly? The above is not the way I do model trains and yet I see the practicality of it.

[@shepherd8171]

Could you do a video on 'big bertha' herself and on the licky incline

[@thetransportationguy7930]

In March of 1950, A freight train was hauled by LMS 47972 with LNER 69999 as the banker. The train stalled halfway up the Lickey Incline and had to be rescued by MR 2290 (Big Bertha).

[@AnubhabKundu]

Bengal Nagpur Railways had the Garratt type of locomotives for heavy freight use. The N Class Garratt for eg had 4400 HP power output and all the Indian Garratts were of broad gauge (1676 mm). They could go upto 80 kmph, but were restricted to 65 when in normal service. One of these locomotives is preserved at National Rail Museum, New Delhi. Another unit has been restored to working order by Kharagpur workshop. This loco is restricted to a top speed of 45 kmph only after restoration.

[@rjjstudios10]

Garratt's are one of my favorite type of locomotive's

[@germantanker131johnny2]

Would love to see a video on the LMS Garratt next.

[@medwaymodelrailway7129]

Like the new upload.Thanks for sharing.

[@dragonkingeeveegen1484]

You should do a whole video the Garrett type of engine it is definitely deserving of one considering it’s crazy design

[@TIMMEH19991]

Check this great video out about UKs standard gauge Garretts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHiZo2CPqLKcask&ab_channel=RuairidhMacVeigh

[@winteriermarlin7042]

Nice video short yet informative

[@abloogywoogywoo]

If they refined the design, give it a stoker motor to move the coal from the tender to the firebox, the U1 would've been successful enough for a class of them to be built as banking engines for all heavy goods trains across Britain. Seriously making that absolute unit in just 3 weeks is crazy, it needed more time.

[@iankemp1131]

But you only really needed big banking engines on the two exceptional gradients of the Lickey (1:37) and Worsborough (1:40). Garratts could have done a good job of actually hauling heavy freight trains, but in practice Stanier 8Fs and BR 9Fs did the job fine and had a much shorter wheelbase. Garratts were great for Australia and South Africa with their big coal and water capacity over very long distances, and could also give reduced axle load allowing easier track maintenance.

[@routeman680]

@@iankemp1131 I agree, but British railways were in many ways unambitious. Gresley's P1 2-8-2s (not the P2) fro 1925 were much more powerful than the usual freight 2-8-0s but there was not enough work for them because trains were short and allegedly didn't need their power. It seems no one had any interest in faster freight trains as opposed to longer ones.

[@iankemp1131]

@@routeman680 The barrier to faster freight trains in the UK was that they were not fitted with the continuous brake. The LNER ran some fast vacuum fitted trains (60 mph) but they were within the capacity of engines like the K3 2-6-0s. The Gresley P1s could actually have been useful on the LMS for their heavy coal trains, but they went for 7F 0-8-0s and Garratts instead, mangling the design of both so that they never reached their potential.

[@markeast74]

ya know, I had a vision once, where I said to a bunch of people, 'hey I propose that I make three engines, a decapod, a u1, and a bertha, obviously this might not happen, but its an interesting dream that I had, and who knows, maybe ill make one of em, or maybe I won't, will see. In all seriousness though it would be so cool if we saw one of those engines I mentioned in action, and hey, maybe the people that built tornado could do it or another group could, anyways, nice vid.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

I’ve been puzzled as to why the Garratt design steam locomotive wasn’t used in the US but I’m guessing that many turntables would be too short for them. I wish I could have seen one in one of my multiple trips to Australia.

[@amr1919ms]

Hello: Nací en 1960 y las Garrats fueron usadas con éxito en España. En la línea de Tarragona a Lérida circulaba un tren de productos petroliferos con un coche de viajeros en medio, arrastrado por una Garrat doble Mikado. Yo he viajado en este tren cuando era niño. Actualmente seria demencial un tren mixto así. Hay vídeos en You Tube del difunto Maristany.😢 Bests Regards.

[@jovanweismiller7114]

Why would soft water require retubing? It is hard water that causes scale when the minerals in it precipitate on the surface of the tubing.

[@svennoren9047]

Too soft water corrodes the metal in the tubes, especially at high temperatures. A hardness of about 3-5 °dH or so is considered the best balance between scaling and corrosion.

[@ianwarriner8193]

Strange there was no mention of who it was built by , Beyer Peacock Gorton Manchester .

[@lgnatiusReilly]

I CANT STOP WATCHING THIS

[@LHoriginal]

1:12 hey! I live near there! That reminds me, I still need to do a kind of documentary of the history of wath rail yard for my train channel. I've been putting it off for too long. Speaking about wath yard, can you possibly do a video on the train crash that happened there? I haven't seen anything about it other than the one that British pathe uploaded, I believe it's called something like "Yorkshire train disaster"

[@philclarke313]

A excellent video but sorry to say but i have to correct you the u1 and big bertha ran together hence the photograph of them both taken by the good Dr the u1 had long gone from the Lickey when big bertha was scrapped in 56 and the headlight was then fitted to a 9F

[@VojtovySumavskeVlakyCZ]

Nice video like and subscribed from Czech Republic 🙂👍👍👍

[@Metal-Possum]

We had Garrett engines here in New Zealand as the Class G, they were big, and lost their adhesion as water levels diminished. The recollections of them were that they were good at wheelspins and not much else. These were recycled into other engines with no surviving examples.

[@kiankier7330]

those videos like this one make me feel like I was born in the wrong age

[@templar_1138]

Yes, it's sad that we live in an age where railroads are much faster, cleaner, and better regulated than in the age of steam. Woe is us.

[@kiankier7330]

I dont know about the cleaner part. Also this age, Trains have no originality and feel more like buses on tracks

[@lobsterbark]

@@kiankier7330 I know what you are talking about. It's not steam specifically, or even electrification that sucks the fun away. It's that everything is plastic and electronics now. What used to be mechanical switches or controls for everything is now a button and a microchip. What used to be brass or steel is now plastic. I'm talking about everything, not just trains. Mechanical design is dying. Even cars now are replacing what used to be hydraulic or mechanical systems with with a button and microchip that controls an electric motor where possible.

[@kiankier7330]

@@lobsterbark the same is happening with buildings and architectures

[@could_possiblybe_thane07echo]

Ngl I wouldn't mind living in the 90s where amtrak locomotives had a better and simpler paint job

[@jodypitt3629]

Hi, I had once heard from an ex steam locomotive fireman who had used a bicycle inner tube of which first he cut so he could breath with this, the air being much cleaner lower down.

[@nploates]

Interesting video as usual, thanks. At 2.13 “soft water” - really?

[@ajaxengineco]

Soft Water - water containing high amounts of minerals such as lime (that white cack you find in the kettle). This scale eats away at boiler plates & tubes, which will need more frequent replacement in 'soft water' areas. The east coast of the U.K. is terrible for this, as I know from living there. It seems our water is more limescale then anything else!

[@nploates]

Surely what you have described is hard water not soft water? In Wiltshire and Dorset where the water is hard, pipes and kettles do cake up. I’m currently in Cornwall where the water is delightfully soft and the inside of the kettle is as shiny as the outside!

[@ajaxengineco]

@@nploates hang about, you're right! Not sure where my head was when I wrote that last comment, but I had just got home after all... What I actually meant was that soft water is, (I believe) slightly acidic, which itself corroded the engine's boiler. Here in Lincolnshire, the water is hard as nails so I always make sure to run it through the kettle before putting it a model steam boiler.

[@nploates]

@@ajaxengineco At least we are on the same page. Though I’m interested in what you say about soft water being acidic, so was the commentary in the video correct or had ‘Train of Thought’ just arrived home?

[@ajaxengineco]

@@nploates I would say he is correct on this account, having observed the effects of the local soft water on small model steam engines & boilers. It's obviously not battery acid levels of corrosive, but over a number of years it will wear down metals.

[@tracynation2820]

An excellent video. 💙 T.E.N.

[@londonbrightonsouthcoast]

If you haven’t already, could you make a video on big Bertha?

[@edwardvincentbriones5062]

Interestingly, I watched a 1925 British Pathé silent footage called “The Monster - Filmed at Gorton, Manchester” featuring this particular locomotive.

[@sonicfan117dash2]

It makes sense why you would use the soundtrack “Core” from Undertale. After all, like the topic of this video, the Core was huge and imposing.

[@marcthesaddletankprod9777]

There is also one more made in the LMS

[@Sam_of_Akkad]

Can you make a video on 2290 Big Bertha

[@byFerrum]

Okay, did not expect Undertale music to be here. Nice!

[@boonie9448]

Hey Train of Thought could you do a video about the MÁV class 242?

[@f40p65]

3:13 amazing number on the locomotive

[@Erwin_Von_Heidenheim]

Why is no one talking about the use of 'the core' soundtrack from undertale in the background

[@vtr0104]

How the hell could they build it in just 3 weeks?.... Look at the size of the thing!

[@nastyab8003]

Soft water? Usually hard water causes boiler damage

[@NWGuyNWchallenger]

The lner U1 garratt is my favorite U.k steam locomotive

[@leogio8093]

What’s the theme you use for the end card? I’m very curious

[@Erwin_Von_Heidenheim]

The core ,from undertale how the fuck didn't you know that ?????!!!!

[@leogio8093]

@@Erwin_Von_Heidenheim i figured it was undertake but I couldn’t place which one. Sounded a tad like mettaton and undyne at first

[@kevwebb2637]

most Garratt engine units only used two cylinders not three. Kinda sound similar to the AT&SF 3000 class, except the 3000 class is an oil burner. I wonder how better the U1 would be if the three cylinder design got replaced with the standard two cylinder layout?

[@johnd8892]

The New Zealand small class of Garratts with two three cylinder Pacific engine units was even less successful and very short lived. The little known Tasmanian double Atlantic Garratts used a total of eight cylinders but worked too well as it easily and smoothly got up to speeds too high for the Cape gauge trackwork. These speeds were the main cause of a few crashes they were involved with. The eight cylinders on narrow gauge meant higher maintenance costs. So withdrawn after around ten years of use or less.

[@TIMMEH19991]

Robinson had a design for a 4 cylinder Garrett basically using two 8K power units which would probably have been more successful than Greasley's 6 cylinder design.

[@DeCasoU1]

@@TIMMEH19991 The O2, being a three cylinder design would offer a smoother power output and would be less prone to slipping, it also offered more scope for development than the older Robinson 2-8-0 design.

[@cr10001]

Why would a two-cylinder version have been any better? It is not reported that the three cylinders on the U1 caused any problems. Two cylinders would have offered less tractive effort (unless larger cylinders were used, of course, but that may not have been possible within the loading gauge). Which is the reason all the largest express locomotives in Britain used three or four cylinders (and similarly for much of Europe). I'm not sure what the similarity is with a 2-10-10-2 Mallet with a ridiculously complicated long and skinny boiler design.

[@WhyDoIBeHere]

2:35 Nice

[@alicehodges9964]

The Steam Engine Looks Beautiful

[@GM-12]

Hi, I hope Train of Thought read this, I really like this videos, they hace very good information about engines or trains, and as far as I know there is no one who uploads videos like this but in Spanish, that why I want to ask if I can use the information from this videos to uploads videos about trains but in spanish I'm writting this in a comment because I didn't find how to contact you

[@modelrailfan37]

The fact that this… thing, was for banking is absolutely ridiculous to think of given how massive it is!

[@harrisonrawlinson5650]

My favourite loco!

[@thomasshaftoe461]

Do videos on Royal Scot and Big Bertha please.

[@archieakers0485]

This is litterly in my town. I live in Swinton mexbrough. And work in wosbrough Barnsley

[@lightupproductions1948]

Me: *watches the video* Me a few minutes later: *hears the CORE's theme from undertale* wait what?

[@harrymu148]

I wonder if its possible to have a diesel-steam hybrid where the steam would use the waste heat for boiling

[@Paraffinmeister]

Look up the Kitson Still.

[@harrymu148]

@@Paraffinmeister huh that's pretty intetesting!

[@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202]

I've never seen a Garret Run in real life but I've seen the Union Pacific Big Boy which is the largest articulated steam locomotives in the world weighs 600 tons or 1250000 lb puts out attractive effort of 133,000 lb I think the I can't remember exactly off top of my head right now but the the wheel consolidation is aa4884 articulated simple all high-pressure some cylinders instead of a compound there is videos on KZbin of me watching it go through Weaver Canyon and I got to talk to the engineer and everything that locomotive is gigantic 132 ft long 16 ft High 10 ft wide and it just Glides across the rails it is so crazy how smooth that locomotive actually runs it was built to pull five mile long freight trains across the planes at 80 mph that's pretty damn good for a freight locomotive check out the big boy if you know nothing about it I've seen it with my own eyes and the big boys glorious 4014 is the locomotives Road number peace out I almost forgot the boiler pressure 300 PSI of boiler pressure that's with a big boy runs on that's higher than any boiler pressure that was successful of any European locomotive as far as I know

[@Im_here170]

Ironically enough some are still in use in Africa and Australia

[@greycatturtle7132]

Ye

[@Dave_Sisson]

There is a narrow gauge Garrat G42 which operates tourist trains most days on the outskirts of Melbourne.

[@mrsaturngamingandstories]

R.I.P LNER U1 Garrett 1924-1955

[@johnathanedwards9054]

May I request a video about the American steam turbine locomotives. There aren't many people who know that they even existed

[@muir8009]

Actually with the many videos on KZbin regarding the steam turbines, including the original footage it's more likely theres not many who don't know about their existence

[@Mike_Wahousekey]

Is it just me or does this kinda remind me of Henry when he first came to Sodor since he wasn’t designed properly

[@crystalrock18]

Should tried a cab forward design? I mean I know brits don’t believe in using oil as a fuel source for steam engines, but hear me out. It works pretty well over here and we have been using as a fuel source for steam for quite some time.

[@muir8009]

the Brits definitely considered oil as a fuel, however it's all offshore and imported so of course it's not as clear cut as your comment would seem to suggest. With the garratt it's just a case of turning the engine around, the cab will end up at the other end of the boiler barrel, fuel type being irrelevant. The issue is keeping the boiler always facing uphill with the firebox at rear. By placing the cab at the front of the smoke box the crew will be slowly roasted, and if on an engine unit it will reduce water capacity. On the steeply graded centre section of the north island New Zealand reversed one of its garratts for the smoke issue, and it was considerably better for the crews, as is rather predictable.

[@stephenphillip5656]

At the time the U1 was being designed & built, oil was a very expensive import but we had vast deposits of coal. Oil deposits in the North Sea (off our East coast) were discovered in the 1960s & came on stream in the 1970s, but have gradually reduced now. Oil would have made practical sense but was economically unviable at the time.

[@crystalrock18]

This is to all the comments and I do where where you all are coming and I totally get it. The Southern Pacific Railroad has great success with their cab forward locomotives out on the west coast of the US, and we’re effective through the mountains in California, Nevada, Oregon, and so on. But, I do see how oil is more expensive for y’all, I would here about it from my co workers in my squadron at RAF MILDENHALL on how they had to buy oil for their homes for the winter and how expensive it was. I lived in the barracks at that time so it wasn’t a concern of mine obviously. Overall I do thank you fo the input.

[@awesome-xk8vj]

Can you do big bertha next please

[@scotthamp384]

Why was it cut up? Why wasn't it put on display at a museum?

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

Because yes

[@catcat1352]

Hi Train oThought, Ca you make a video abute the SR Leader? And when will you make a face reveal?

[@F40NJ2CAT]

SR Leader Good topic, Face reveal maybe not.

[@catcat1352]

@@F40NJ2CAT the Fowler`s ghost maybe a good lesson. But is it to early for a face reveal?

[@catcat1352]

@@F40NJ2CAT good topic, but do he see the comments??

[@zolifortress1756]

do big bertha next

[@Heinz_Stresseinheimer]

Hey what's the name of that song? It sounds extremely familiar...

[@TransTaey]

Undertale - "The CORE"

[@Itz_Sonic57053]

I wonder what the Baking Engine would of looked like if the wheels were placed correctly and used as a passenger train

[@thegamingrhino5864]

You should do the Erie and Virginian Railroad Triplex engines

[@garryferrington811]

They weren't very good. The Virginian 2-10-10-2's were much better.

[@muir8009]

They've been done to death haven't they? Bit like a mention of a UP Big boy, apparently the mention of a 4000 is meant to mean something in a no particular relevant way. Shall I mention the legendary BR103? Will the precipitate a similar response?

[@ffjsb]

It's always funny to hear a British or any European locomotive described as "Massive", after you've seen American Steam locomotives...

[@xb70valkyriech]

What's the BGM, if you don't mind

[@BronyumHexofloride]

the song is CORE from the Undertale soundtrack Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWOQZ3p8oLKjmq8

[@callum110597]

Very interesting. ...It looks like those engines from Africa.

[@ibxgameryt9449]

Do A Video about the LNER A1 Class Or The Flying Scotsman preservation .

[@germansteamlocomotive]

ABSOULUTE UNIT

[@PersianYank]

Closest thing to a British Big Boy.

[@muir8009]

Or the big boy is the closest thing to a British garratt

[@pinngg6907]

Best train number

[@TheStickCollector]

Yes

[@Maonnaise]

Does this count as a tank Engine?

[@LillyCox777]

Nice

[@htaykupawzarni-htoo3047]

This looks like a 4 year old's work after trying to draw a steam locomotive

[@edwardcole4623]

DUDE! THATS TEH FRIKKEN CORE THEME FROME FRIKKEN UNDERTALE?!

[@countluke2334]

Still waiting for TheSpiffingBrit to reveal his second channel. The writings are on the wall.

[@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661]

Interesting how the US and UK had different ideas on articulated steam locomotive power

[@johnd8892]

Also Garratts preferred in Australia and Africa. The Australian NFSA has some very high standard film and sound of the AD60 class and other surviving steam on the main north line around 1968 ; kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4HTeGeqi62Gg7M There is also 6029 running in preservation, mainly on passenger trains.

[@yoboyteengohan7242]

@@johnd8892 love train footage where the audio isn’t from a separate recording. Many US films have footage from 6mm or 15mm cameras but bc of the time period (or bc it was just someone recording footage on their own w/ what they had), the audio is from a separate train spotting event. So you’ll get footage of a Cab Forward traveling over 40 mph but the audio sounds like it’s going 15 lol

[@cr10001]

Probably to do with loading gauge. There is no way a full-size American Mallet could be made to fit on British tracks. The boiler of a Mallet has to fit above the front engine unit with clearance for it to swivel. Whereas the Garratt has its boiler slung between the engine units, so could be pitched much lower.

[@svennoren9047]

@@cr10001 Also, on a tight curve the center of gravity on a Garrat would move to the inside of the curve which increases stability. On a Mallet it moves slightly to the outside.

[@cr10001]

@@svennoren9047 That is certainly true, though probably most significant on railways in mountainous regions with many long tight curves, more so than British main lines.

[@davidantoniocamposbarros7528]

Certified Garatt moment