The LOST Atari NES - Gaming History Secrets

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[@charlesn898]

Well done! In regards to Donkey Kong you could have briefly made mention of Nintendo's little secret about the original arcade game (Ikegami Tsushinki designed the hardware and programmed the code for the game).

[@charlesn898]

@@lunarvvolf9606 Yeah. The first couple thousand of Donkey Kong machines were actually converted Radarscope games (Space Invaders inspired game). As the story goes Nintendo of America made that game thinking that would be successful here in the States and...it wasn't. Desperate to sell units because the creditors were knocking on their door the president of NOA reached out to the company president back in Japan (who was his father in law) and asked him to have his people create a game for those cabinets that they could sell. The result of this is the game we now know as Donkey Kong. Those original games with the red cabinets (as opposed to the more common blue ones) are now considered to be collector's items and are highly sought after. The problem Nintendo had with ITC came about when they developed Donkey Kong Jr. Instead of going back to ITC the Big N hired another company to reverse engineer the Donkey Kong boardset/game and froze ITC out. ITC took them to court in 1983 and both companies agreed to an out of court settlement in 1990.

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

@@charlesn898 Yes, unfortunately, at the time Nintendo's own staff knew nothing about program code. The first game they actually coded themselves, which was not derived from Donkey Kong's code, was Mario Brothers (1983).

[@xamian2]

Love this video (and all of your videos). Thanks for posting this. One minor thing: I *think* the sticking point was not that the ADAM could run the ColecoVision version of Donkey Kong, but that Coleco made an enhanced version of Donkey Kong for the ADAM that was closer to the arcade version than the ColecoVision version using their high speed tape drives instead of cartridges. I had an ADAM back in the 80s, and had many of the ADAM specific games, including Super Donkey Kong, Super Donkey Kong Jr., Super Zaxxon, Super Buck Rogers (the pack in game) and Dragon's Lair. All of the Kong ports for the ADAM were arcade accurate (all four arcade screens, intermissions, extra animations). It was incredible. I remember something about them being taken off the market because of the Atari problem. I don't remember details -- I was a teenager at the time, after all -- but I'm pretty sure Atari had a huge problem with the ADAM ports. I could be wrong. Thanks again for all the hard work you do on these. I love every episode you post. So good.

[@TBustah]

It probably would’ve looked less like the NES and more like the Famicom. The NES’s design and business and marketing strategies were very much informed by a crash that was largely Atari’s fault, and I don’t think Atari were removed enough from their mistakes to recognize them. They certainly never approached the success of the VCS with anything that followed, though you can’t blame that entirely on them.

[@lordasaki]

Actually it did look more like the NES, just...sleeker and a little more angular. There are photos of the prototype out there.

[@TBustah]

@@lordasaki You’re probably thinking of the AVS. Atari had no part in that. By the time they teased that prototype, Nintendo had already decided to go it alone.

[@Embargoman]

The only difference is with the Atari logo.

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

The original Famicom console, was a top-loader (as was the second-generation NES sold from 1993-95 with the SNES-style controllers).

[@Embargoman]

@@ClassicTVMan1981X Just to say if Atari gave it the green light then it will look like the Family Computer in Japan but with the Atari logo.

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

I had Astro wars but this is where it all really began for me with the console..Christmas day 1980 playing frogger I swear I felt so happy I still regard it as my favourite Christmas present of all time...I loved the 80s, thankyou ❤

[@Dazlidorne]

Great video. I grew up during the 80's and I never knew this stuff was going on!

[@ShortTermHasNoFuture]

Nes gremlins 2's music : the best music in a video game all time 😍 thank you miss decade !

[@Skorpio420]

First comes love (Atari), then comes marriage (Nintendo), then comes Coleco carrying a monkey wrench... (Pun intended?)

[@Andres33AU]

I know it's a "what if" imagining for this story, but that NES in the thumbnail with the Atari colour scheme and faux woodgrain finish looks hella slick!

[@nimrodlevy]

Loved the story! thanks, I never new your channel even exists! thanks for all the research! its amazing!

[@ravensmadhouse75]

Ahhh... One of the ultimate tales of Backstabbing, or so Atari claimed. Happy New Year, Milady and here's to more great work in 2023. Keep those heels high!

[@bghoody5665]

Seems Atari has given Sega a good run for their money concerning who has managed to shoot themselves in the foot the most.

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[@Super-my9ob]

Imagine they did that and than we would have the Atari Switch... Very Bizzare

[@lazarushernandez5827]

Or the Nintendo Lynx. 🤔

[@hanniballecter4924]

Nice documentary, many thanks for posting.

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

I always wanted the Atari Entertainment System when it came out . My 1st Atari ended up being the Atari 600xl computer, though I still have my Atari Jaguar I bought new in 1994 in my retro collection 👌👌

[@edwardmclaughlin719]

you bragging?

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

@@edwardmclaughlin719 Just saying I love Atari 😄

[@lordraven]

What's the background song at 7:00?

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

What we did get out of this botched affair were a few NES games that Nintendo started work on but were re-assigned to a third-party, HAL America: those three games were Defender II, Joust and Millipede. These three, along with Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Mario Bros., were supposed to have shipped with the Atari version of the FamiCom had the affair went smoothly. There was a seventh game that was supposed to have been part of this launch, but the title eludes me (I think it was Popeye).

[@zerocal76]

Imagine a Super Mario bros for an atari Nes... Nintendo would have whipped Atari into shape then Sega would have never stood a chance, Sony would have been to scared to enter; only MS would have competed later

[@Devilish_Orange112]

@@zerocal76 Coleco would've probably continue their console business and probably would become the Sega for the Atari nes, I doubt sony would've been scared to enter tho.

[@joetheman74]

@squarebegooderlife844 Sony never had any interest into entering the video game market. It was a series of events that even led them to being involved in video games that probably never would have happened if the Atari thing had happened. When Nintendo approached an employee from Sony to produce a sound chip for the Snes. That employee decided to work on it in secret because he knew his bosses had turned down anything to do with video games in the past. When his sound chip project came to light he was almost fired until one Exec who believed in him gave the go ahead. This venture was successful enough for Sony to eventually lead them to the failed deal with Nintendo for the playstation and the rest is history as they say. I believe Lady Decade has a video about it somewhere.

[@psyche349]

Quality content and research as always, awesome work. Thank you

[@MrCromocrunch]

Even sega tried to partner with Atari to distribute the Genesis. So many missed opportunities.

[@billmcintyre3652]

Probably for the best if Atari distributed Genesis it surely would have been a failure and Genesis ended up being my favorite console to this day.

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Good Stuff, thank you for the vid and other vids you've made, loving the infomation you provide, keep up the good work yeah :) :)

[@makkmchammer4247]

The sweet irony of that old Coleco ADAM commercial with Lori Loughlin where she keeps asking "is that legal?" 🤣🤣🤣

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[@DruuzilTechGames]

You ever play Donkey Kong on a Radioshack PC? It was on a cassette tape, lol.

[@Sly88Frye]

I don't know who designed that image of the Atari NES but it looks really cool. Anyways yeah I wasn't even aware of this deal going on. I'm well aware of Nintendo and Sony and of course Sega and Sony and even Sega and Microsoft later on, but I didn't know about this one so that's really cool to find out now

[@harrisonallen651]

Well this just came out of nowhere! Happy New Year’s to you my ladyship.

[@shannonmanley9217]

I really enjoyed this video. the history was very interesting. I hope you had a Good Christmas. take care and God Bless.

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Great, interesting video. Also I'm pleased that you don't screams a lot. Great work!

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[@superleviathan]

It's amazing how so much of history is determined not by big grand event, but tiny, seemingly insignificant twists of fate. If Atari and Nintendo had signed one day earlier, or if Coleco had picked literally any other game to show off the Adam, Atari would have gone down and dragged Nintendo of America with them.

[@McAster99]

The idea of a wood grained NES terrifies me for some reason.

[@Itsatarp1337]

I am allways baffled how you can make so many interesting videos. Never even heared about this before.

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go outside

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You do realise she's never played a single game? It's been proven but simps keep supporting this channel

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@@thankfulgamer2405 thanks for the info, thought id support a "hustling" channel.

[@davidgarris5440]

So many years. What games music are playing in the background?

[@staceymcdermott4954]

Saw the thumbnail thought I'd missed something turn's out was just a thumbnail

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Amazing… as always.

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[@sreckomladenovic8587]

Again Donkey Kong save video games industry and show how much this game is actually big.

[@greenkoopa]

Donkey Kong used to be the original edge lord werewolf gorilla

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This was mad interesting. nice.

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[@eriksilveira9356]

Brasil had an NES clone with Atari 7800 case - Phantom System

[@andrewbrooks2001]

Great video

[@DIYD]

The "get up little Mac" music 😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭

[@urbanknish6965]

In hindsight, it's easy to say that Atari needed Nintendo far more than Nintendo needed Atari.

[@RepTechEP]

All the jokes we missed from not having the ANES 😂😆😂😆.

[@StudioSoaker]

The thumbnail and video title is clickbait, there is no such thing like that. Atari never made a rebranded famicom.

[@andrewbrooks2001]

I wish Nintendo would have released the AVS a year or two before the NES instead of just abandoning the AVS.

[@MrLaloman18]

So is Donkey Kong half a Donkey and half a Kong?

[@willschweitzer9784]

"Atari Entertainment System" sounds like the Neo Geo's AES (Advanced Entertainment System).

[@mresturk9336]

Probably for the best. Who knows how many amazing NES games would have been gatekept out of the North American market by Atari's leadership for being "too Japanese". Even Nintendo were unsure about releasing the original Zelda in the west.

[@julianbarron5293]

wow.... i can't believe I've never heard this before!

[@ACECAL-cl4tb]

"Th" is pronounced using the tongue not lip

[@williamhorton9763]

Europeans have a problem with that.

[@mikesilva3868]

Great review 😎

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

Donkey Kong was my favourite game in the 1980s 👌👌

[@joeydemitro8976]

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME TOO

[@jareddavidmanifold313]

The black atari 2600 was called the Darth Vader edition.

[@radwolf76]

4:28 "Well, does the Pope sh!t in the woods?" Not any more he doesn't. I'm sure the next one will too though.

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[@lesliegibson5964]

Imagine if it did happen then I suppose Nintendo and Atari cartridges would have been playable on 1 console now that’s killa 😅

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Interresting

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Sony designed their contract with Nintendo to be rejected; creating the 'Habsburg Ultimatum' Effect!

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[@ianvallender7892]

It's interesting however but not the actual one that went ahead with Mattel who not only who produced the intellivision! Actually manufactured and distributed the nes here in the United Kingdom unfortunately couple of years later nintendo took over and forced us to change regions as Mattel consoles aren't compatible with nes version games.

[@DanVzare]

Yep, which along with the popularity of the ZX Spectrum and the difference in cost between PC games on a cassette and console games on a cartridge, resulted in console games not getting a decent foothold in the UK until the unprecedented success of the Playstation. (I mean, the NES was not only way more expensive. But as far as customers were concerned, it might not even work!) If that Mattel deal had never happened, I suspect console games would've become a lot more popular in the UK a lot quicker than they did. Perhaps the Dizzy franchise would've been an NES classic with a poor PC port, instead of a PC classic with an obscure NES port.

[@raba2d723]

i liked the thumbnail a few videos back where you showed some leg. awesomesauce!!

[@humanskull182]

Down bad

[@jacobbaranowski]

5:26

[@watup110875]

I have almost complete set Atari 2600, having trouble finding games, almost part I speak off, is that stupid FKG TV GAME SWITCH THAT SCREWS TO TV CABLE INPUT THAT SELECTS BETWEEN GAME/TV, really wish MTHRFKRS HADN'T SHUT DOWN RADIO-SHACK

[@feenix219]

I've always made jokes about this, combined with the SNES/PSX debacle, could have ended up with the Super Atari Play Station X or some shit lmfao. I wonder what '00 number the NES would have been? Would it have followed the 7800 or replaced it? Such fun things to think about.

[@ericpode6095]

"Super Atari PlayStation X" sounds like one of those Android TV game boxes that China keep churning out! 😂😂😂

[@iplaywhatiwant3738]

Sony has consistently out-sold Nintendo since 1995. Probably one of the biggest financial mistakes in history.

[@jsb0714]

You realize both companies are still around, right?

[@cartman414]

Not anymore. And certainly not during the Wii era. And it turns out Nintendo only allowed Sony/Kutaragi to go forward with the SNES CD-ROM, and only after Sony told them it would be for everything but games. Nintendo made the mistake of not getting it in writing in the contract. Sony formed Sony Imagesoft mere months after the CD-ROM contract was written. That form of media was used in an e-book reader and was compatible with the SNES CD ROM prototype, to show how far Sony was planning on going with the new disc media. UMD, MiniDisc, CompactFlash, Betamax, Blu-ray... sound familiar? Sony would have made like bandits at Nintendo's expense. No wonder Yamauchi bailed. Unfortunately the optics couldn't be worse for Nintendo.

[@user-tl4fi6oy8d]

What do you care about Nintendo's finances? As far as you're concerned, you got competition in the space for the past quarter century with both companies putting out some legendary games.

[@cartman414]

@@user-tl4fi6oy8d Sony themselves are debatable, as their legacy leans towards more cinematic, less gamey AAA titles. And the point isn't so much regarding money as it is about being pushed out of the gaming space. Sega wasn't able to manage, sadly, even though Nintendo was.

[@maxheadroom4659]

There is an alternate timeline where this actually happened, was awesome, and they are still making awesome consoles to this day. Instead we get clown world timeline. (grumble)

[@DanVzare]

And there's yet another timeline where this actually happened, Atari then started to believe they were the reason behind the success of the NES, the deal fell through by the time the 16-bit era came, Nintendo released the SNES like in our timeline and Atari made their own 16-bit console which failed horribly, and we somehow end up back in this clown world timeline.

[@TheFLOMAN76]

Nintari?

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

👍👍

[@doublebass1985]

AES= Atari Entertainment System not Neo Geo AES

[@Anonymous-oh4xw]

Nintendo and Atari both went downhill.

[@ChicagoMel23]

Not entirely true. Atari certainly did but Nintendo is still doing great

[@mikicerise6250]

Nintendo is the only company of that era that's still got it.

[@Anonymous-oh4xw]

Well yeah, at least Nintendo's games and consoles are still quality. But I was talking about the staffs.

[@HelloSwiftful]

Please don't apply the open mouth surprised thumbnail

[@bryancook6345]

Atari and NES the 2 worst consoles of all time

[@neophytealpha]

NES and Atari depended on processor design owned by Commodore

[@jameshill3403]

SONY DOES WHAT NINTENDONT. Sorry.

[@davidr1037]

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[@NikkiPotnick80]

Meh

[@ralphjames1211]

What the FUUUUUUUUUUUCK?

[@hamburger6012]

Liked the vid, hate the thumbnail.

[@Bdb83]

Your beautiful

[@CB3ROB-CyberBunker]

well. guess who did actually have a license to produce the 6502... oh yeah. atari. thing is those japs needed atari. before they figured out to just disconnect the decimal calculations unit and clone it. and tramiel most likely wasn't going to give them a license... :P for you know, them being japs. :P