The Lost Kennedy Daughter

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On the surface, Lady Kathleen Cavendish seemed to have it all-but once anyone finds out her real name, they know much differently. Born Kathleen Kennedy, she was the sister of John F. Kennedy and the daughter of the infamously cursed clan. And make no mistake, she was cursed: Although she had all the inborn elegance of her family name, Kathleen’s end was both scandalous and brutal.
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@thomasdonlin5456
@thomasdonlin5456 Ай бұрын
Yeah, strict, Irish Catholic morals that old man Joe never abided by.
@shadowlouise
@shadowlouise Ай бұрын
"Morals" is definitely the wrong word choice, and clearly old Joe was not the only member of the clan who lacked them. I can't feel too sorry for Kathleen. She had a privileged life, did as she pleased, and found love at least twice.
@user-fp2kt1le2e
@user-fp2kt1le2e Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Typical religious hypocrites.
@user-tj5ew6vj8i
@user-tj5ew6vj8i Ай бұрын
​@user-fq8rs7rz3i ---😮😮--and you are a Saint with 2 horns & no halo😮😮😮
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
It takes a cold hearted woman to not even attend her daughter's funeral, not exactly Christian forgiveness.
@nicolad8822
@nicolad8822 Ай бұрын
It was thousands of miles away.
@TheNester.
@TheNester. Ай бұрын
​@nicolad8822 They were millionaires, traveling halfway across the world WASN'T a problem for them. Remember Joseph had flown there and back.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Cruel and heartless. I hate all religions.😡
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
@@TheNester. So very true. You have pointed to it, but let's just get it out into the light. It's more the 1000+ years of Irish Catholic stubbornness tradition. It's the same frame of mind that allowed her to be a frosty wife who allowed Joe to hoe-hunt instead of cutting off his wang. To allow her boys to grow up to do the same. To go to mass and confession and tea, quietly but conspicuously proclaiming her saintly suffering. Very much a Pharisee with Catholic characteristics.
@polynesia8733
@polynesia8733 Ай бұрын
Their mom rose was the only thing decent about that vile despicable family
@debbierowley8833
@debbierowley8833 Ай бұрын
Nobody could ever call the Kennedys “ noble” either, especially the old man, incredible that he and his horrible wife should hold those poor kids to standards that they couldn’t and didn’t live up to themselves.
@jennifferwalton3345
@jennifferwalton3345 Ай бұрын
They didnt care what they did or with who, they only cared thst they didnt do it in public
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 Ай бұрын
Hypocritical snobs .
@marygrummer9189
@marygrummer9189 Ай бұрын
Rose and Joseph Kennedy were horrible human beings, him especially. I have never had any respect or admiration for that bunch.
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Ай бұрын
Well said !!!
@angelsolitaire6456
@angelsolitaire6456 Ай бұрын
It is sad ... too much ambitious and controlling of parents can ruin their children's life.
@rhondabitler5474
@rhondabitler5474 Ай бұрын
I agree.
@kathleendobens6648
@kathleendobens6648 Ай бұрын
Try ruthless he was the reason the depression happened.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
Not as simple as that. Read some history.@@kathleendobens6648
@mechellewinslow65
@mechellewinslow65 Ай бұрын
These Kennedy parents were horrible
@saintjuice11
@saintjuice11 Ай бұрын
Those parents were horrible.
@lydialanata8714
@lydialanata8714 Ай бұрын
The Kennedys were awful parents who could care less about them unless they made the Kennedy name a success! Their children were pawns at their parents need for recognition as being a perfect family!😢
@Factinate
@Factinate Ай бұрын
So sad.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
It’s the Irish Catholic inferiority complex, although they never admit it. Especially with American WASPS and English Protestants. It’s a case of we’ll object to you before you inevitably do it to us. Pride plain and simple, and prejudice, on both sides.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
It was Rose that was most opposed to Kathleen marrying a protestant. In fact Joseph Kennedy, her father cabled her "you will always be tops with me", or could have been when Kathleen wanted her dad to marry Fitzwilliam. However, Joe Kennedy always stood my his children, even if he tried to steer them in a different direction, in the end he stood up for them and gave them unconditional love.
@sarrhodes8277
@sarrhodes8277 Ай бұрын
@@hannejeppesen1809 Never liked or had respect for old Joe, but I've read a fair amount about Kick and her brothers and I think I'd agree; he understood her far better than her mother. It was Rose who was the hard, unforgiving soul.
@virginia247
@virginia247 29 күн бұрын
I grew up in a big family, I had the best mom and dad , always love My parents worked hard ,they would feed anyone mom would say put another tater in the pot.❤❤❤I miss them every day .
@chamomiletea5424
@chamomiletea5424 Ай бұрын
There is no curse. RIP Kathleen 🙏🕊
@diannestephenson8414
@diannestephenson8414 Ай бұрын
She was a beautiful woman, her family didn’t deserve her RIP.
@polynesia8733
@polynesia8733 Ай бұрын
chasing married men not beautiful...she was physically pretty but died early for her disobedience to her beautiful God-fearing mom
@MariaLuvsElvis
@MariaLuvsElvis Ай бұрын
Yep, her "beautiful" mother (Rose) would take expensive extensive vacations away from her children as an escape from the stress and anxiety her husband's running around caused her.
@travelseatsyellowlab
@travelseatsyellowlab 29 күн бұрын
@MariaLuvsElvis her "beautiful" mother also lived to 104 years of age, and several of her siblings reached their 70s, 80s, and 90s, and welcomed children and grandchildren, while she departed at just 28.
@secretshaman189
@secretshaman189 Ай бұрын
Wow, what a sad story!
@CathyCorriher-jb1ot
@CathyCorriher-jb1ot Ай бұрын
A sick and sad story. Money really can't buy happiness.
@rhondabitler5474
@rhondabitler5474 Ай бұрын
She resembles her mother. It was nice to see many pictures I haven't seen before too.
@nomansland4811
@nomansland4811 Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with her looks.
@antoniocoburn-sl4kl
@antoniocoburn-sl4kl Ай бұрын
Wow, this is really some messed up stuff.
@blairbrownie1223
@blairbrownie1223 Ай бұрын
I don’t think she was cursed at all. She made a series of bad choices that had terrible consequences. Yes, her father was not a good man, and her mother was cold as an ice cube, but cheating with a married man is never a noble thing
@breda042
@breda042 Ай бұрын
She didn't exactly have role models for parents.
@angiealexis3093
@angiealexis3093 Ай бұрын
That married man should had not cheated on his wife.
@blairbrownie1223
@blairbrownie1223 Ай бұрын
@@angiealexis3093 of course not, but the video was about Kick Kennedy
@user-gn8if3fq9j
@user-gn8if3fq9j Ай бұрын
So she took after her daddy as far as the sex thing.
@nicolad8822
@nicolad8822 Ай бұрын
He was in the process of getting a divorce, his wife was apparently an alcoholic. The war left many marriages in trouble and these posh folk hardly ever stayed together anyway.
@kellymcclendon6601
@kellymcclendon6601 Ай бұрын
What a sick family.
@catherinerheaume8522
@catherinerheaume8522 Ай бұрын
There is no curse. Just bad decisions. Don’t fly in predictable fog banks. Don’t ski trees while playing football. Don’t drive drunk over the chapequiddic bridge. Don’t prosecute the mob after they get you elected.
@cq9882
@cq9882 Ай бұрын
Exactly. It’s called bad choices and taking huge risks. What a person I would have loved to know. 🙏😇🇺🇸🇦🇺
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
Catherine brought a flame thrower to the part. And then used it.
@wannabetrucker7475
@wannabetrucker7475 Ай бұрын
yes, and waiting for cheeto's chickens to come home to roost. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊
@wannabetrucker7475
@wannabetrucker7475 Ай бұрын
​@@chipcook5346Kathleen not Catherine
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
@@wannabetrucker7475 No. catherinerhheaume8522 brought the flamethrower.
@evelynwells-rk1ed
@evelynwells-rk1ed Ай бұрын
One other daughter had an lobotomy!
@debbiesims138
@debbiesims138 Ай бұрын
Rosemary did. Joe Sr didn't even tell his wife. It was years before the family found out what really happened. After Joe died the family started bringing Rosemary to Hyannis Port to visit.
@GavinsMarineMom
@GavinsMarineMom Ай бұрын
That was mentioned in this video
@cq9882
@cq9882 Ай бұрын
I have read many books and researched Kathleen Kennedy extensively over the years. I don’t buy into the “cursed” Kennedy narrative. Numerous Kennedy generations made some risky choices in their lives many times over. However I have always been fascinated by Kick Kennedy. RIP Kathleen. Taken too soon. 😢🇺🇸🇦🇺🙏
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
Swanson and Dietrich were a lot more than starlets.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Prostitutes???
@JudeGibson-kp7cc
@JudeGibson-kp7cc Ай бұрын
she did it her way, well done
@dayleblair3494
@dayleblair3494 Ай бұрын
There is no words other than GOD help her evil mother and father! Where was the great president and his brothers? What a damn disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Quietly-David
@Quietly-David Ай бұрын
Everything that grew from that Family, died. True, with most Greedy Fools.
@kathleendobens6648
@kathleendobens6648 Ай бұрын
Its called karma. Many enemies could take a list of thousands.
@Quietly-David
@Quietly-David Ай бұрын
STRICT,German Catholic, All the Discipline and None of the Alcohol
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 Ай бұрын
@@Quietly-DavidI thought they were Irish Catholics .
@HockeyBB
@HockeyBB Ай бұрын
With all the kids, to the parents, they were just there to service the parents wishes.
@Hava744
@Hava744 Ай бұрын
Much as I loved Deborah Mitford, it would have been nice to see Kathleen become Duchess of Devonshire and grow old with her Duke.
@user-cy3ge3hh6f
@user-cy3ge3hh6f Ай бұрын
ALL THE MONEY AND FAME BUT NO KINDNESS
@zoocheeks
@zoocheeks Ай бұрын
Or class.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
Hm, President Kennedy was one of the classiest president the US ever had. Robert Kennedy was known for pushing civil rights and was horrified about the abject poverty he saw in some states. Someone must have done something right. Eunice Kennedy started Olympics for handicapped and mentally challenges children and young adults.@@zoocheeks
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Ай бұрын
If you call being repeatedly infected with VD because of sleeping around and sleeping with prostitutes a class person , well them yes he was, just check his medical records or his autopsy report and his Doctor writing about it !!!!!.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
There is his public persona and his private. Was he perfect, no. However, as president he comported himself with style and class.@@mariaevans5793
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
What a lech going after his daughter's friends. And Rise, such a cold fish, she spent all her free time shopping in Europe and even when JFK was hospitalized, she never bothered to visit him.
@kathleendobens6648
@kathleendobens6648 Ай бұрын
Who kathleen or her mom?
@jacquelineedwards4140
@jacquelineedwards4140 Ай бұрын
Billy was William Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington. Kathleen was therefore the Marchioness of Hartington. She was not Lady Kathleen anything.
@laughswhentickled
@laughswhentickled Ай бұрын
The honorific courtesy style of "Lady" is used for the daughters of dukes, marquesses, and earls. The courtesy title is added before the person's given name. Hence Lady Kathleen Hartington or Cavendish depending on the situations.
@jacquelineedwards4140
@jacquelineedwards4140 Ай бұрын
@@laughswhentickled As the Duke of Devonshire's daughter in law she was Lady Hartington or the Marchioness of Hartington NOT Lady Kathleen. She was a commoner, ie not a member of the nobility and not a lady in her own right as would be the daughter of a duke, marquess or earl.
@bcsurvivor4713
@bcsurvivor4713 Ай бұрын
Thank you, very well presented.
@saxx001
@saxx001 Ай бұрын
Joe Kennedy a total utter SoB
@truecynic1270
@truecynic1270 Ай бұрын
Very interesting biography. She certainly was her own person which is very admirable. What amazingly shitty parents.
@gailjackson910
@gailjackson910 Ай бұрын
The way I understand it, ol'Joe had the lobotomy w/o Rose's knowledge.
@candaceroberts3238
@candaceroberts3238 Ай бұрын
I find it odd that on the one hand they hid Rosemary and yet she was presented to the Queen of England. She looked beautiful and didn’t appear as though she had any problems when she met her. She was the most beautiful of the girls. Rose wasn’t aware the he was going to have her lobotomized and never forgave him after she found out. He hid her from the rest of the family because she was basically a zombie. He was an evil, evil man.
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Ай бұрын
I would agree on that 👍
@breda042
@breda042 Ай бұрын
What an awful family for a girl/woman.
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
Just put a period after "family."
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
@@chipcook5346Yes, they were skin crawl. 🤮
@breda042
@breda042 Ай бұрын
@@chipcook5346 in Ireland... We don't use that term.
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
@@breda042 That makes me sad. Hopefully, most of your family still do.
@breda042
@breda042 Ай бұрын
@@chipcook5346 I don't know the point you're making. I use Uk English not American English.
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
Compared to some of the Kennedy women like Eunice, Kathleen was ver nice looking.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
Eunice was fairly attractive when young, great hair and smile, she just didn't care much about clothes and fashion, probably Patricia was the best looking of the Kennedy women, otherwise she wouln't have caught the eye of the dapper movie star Peter Lawford.
@skuhlemeyer
@skuhlemeyer Ай бұрын
😅he had a great personalty I would be friends with her. Kennedy family were awful people
@user-bn4mn2xe3h
@user-bn4mn2xe3h Ай бұрын
how sad. it is terrible to deAl with small minds and crazy rich people.she was ahead of her time. she made a lot of bad choices.you only see what they what they want you to see,not what goes on behided closed doors.
@user-cy3ge3hh6f
@user-cy3ge3hh6f Ай бұрын
I DONT BELIEVED THEY WERE CURSED JUST UNGODLY
@BUBBLESPOGO
@BUBBLESPOGO Ай бұрын
The ungodly are cursed.
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Ай бұрын
Both true !!!!😊
@hairywitch4063
@hairywitch4063 Ай бұрын
Definition of a dysfunctional family.
@stephaniebarker9244
@stephaniebarker9244 Ай бұрын
I'm sure they lived at Chatsworth House, cheshire. Very impressive house and estate.
@kerryz966
@kerryz966 Ай бұрын
Rose was evil and Ethel just as bad
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 Ай бұрын
Joy she gave, and Joy she has found ❤️‍🩹 her epitaph on the grave marker in the Cavendish’s family plot across the pond… RIP
@Kari77251
@Kari77251 Ай бұрын
Great video! I’d love to see more on the Kennedy siblings.
@sunnydavidson297
@sunnydavidson297 Ай бұрын
I knew an English woman who met Kathleen in London during the war.
@danduarte7010
@danduarte7010 Ай бұрын
Born into wealth, but unlucky due to her father's shenanigans. But strangely he suffered a stroke that silenced him from ever speaking again! Karma's a bitch!😮
@PrissyTxTomboy
@PrissyTxTomboy Ай бұрын
I only found your channel a couple of days ago & am binge-watching. Great work! Thank you!
@user-cy3ge3hh6f
@user-cy3ge3hh6f Ай бұрын
LOOK HOW THEIR OFFSPRNG ENDED UP
@kathleendobens6648
@kathleendobens6648 Ай бұрын
Cant help who you fall in love with. She was very beautiful.they deserved a good life together.😢😢 Karma came back on them joe was responsible for the market depression due to his ambition So they and are lived the karma back on their lives. Sadness and criminal.
@user-cy3ge3hh6f
@user-cy3ge3hh6f Ай бұрын
WHY DONT THEY MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT HER LIFE
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 Ай бұрын
There are 2 books that are very good telling her story. One is "Kick Kennedy" by Barbara Leaming, the other "Kick" by Paula Byrnes, both author have credibility as serious writers and historians. TubiTv currently have Reckless Youth available for free, it is about JKF's earlier life until he get elected to congress, the movie also portrays a realistic picture of Kick. The movie is based on Nigel Hamilton's books about JFK's childhood and youth.
@judithderington-mcconnell6437
@judithderington-mcconnell6437 Ай бұрын
I’m stunned to read what pitiful parents Rose and Joe Kennedy really were to their children. They had a wonderful opportunity to have the best life loving their children. What a shame to learn of the tragic reality of the lives of the Kennedy family. 😢
@-Reagan
@-Reagan Ай бұрын
“A strange, high stoop to her shoulders” This was likely kyphosis, a form of spinal curvature like scoliosis. It’s sometimes increased in women who have it, from slouching forward to cover their chest when developing or, sometimes due to being over developed. It’s not surprising she would shrug her shoulders forward to hide her chest when her dad was so lecherous, “catching her friends alone and tickling and touching them…” there’s no telling what her father did to her and her sister. It makes me wonder if they had another reason to lobotomize her sister, Rosemary Kennedy. So, she couldn’t tell anyone about her father touching her and embarrass him and have everyone know the truth about the family, their closet is full of skeletons.
@carolmanning8367
@carolmanning8367 Ай бұрын
Apparently got her nickname for her habit of kicking her shoes off.
@wannabetrucker7475
@wannabetrucker7475 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 wow fantasize much
@rhondabitler5474
@rhondabitler5474 Ай бұрын
wannabetrucker You're right. Just making shit up out of the clear blue sky.😂
@LadyBug1967
@LadyBug1967 Ай бұрын
Reagan thanks for the explanation of kryphosis but in the case of kit I don't think she was covering up a chest cuz she was flat. Also a man like her father wouldn't violated his kids because he had his choice of any woman he wanted. Also she doesn't behave like a child that had been raped in her youth before she had a memory of it. She just acts like a rich hedonistic woman who always got what she wanted.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Stop! I feel sick, although I wouldn’t have put anything past the evil old lecher. 🤮
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 26 күн бұрын
Kathleen was the one who investigated what a lobotomy entailed and tried to talk her father out of doing it. She even wrote, "Oh, no! This is not something we want for our Rosie!"
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 26 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention how Rose had Kick's sisters include prayer cards in the letters to Kick's friends and demand that they pray for Kick's lost soul. All of the friends were angry and put off by the horrid demand. And then there was Joe who refused to pay the undertaker at Kick's burial.
@TheCocobana
@TheCocobana Ай бұрын
An awful family .. awful...
@mariaevans5793
@mariaevans5793 Ай бұрын
Correct !!!!
@bz3548
@bz3548 Ай бұрын
Maybe her parents eventually created what some people called The Kennedy curse. Kennedy’s Family tragedies. President Kennedy's sister, Rosemary Kennedy, had part of her brain removed in 1941 in a relatively new procedure known as a prefrontal lobotomy. The family had long described her as "intellectually slow." The operation only worsened her condition and she was institutionalized until her death in 2005 at age 86. In 1944 air disaster that killed President Kennedy's oldest brother, Joe Kennedy Jr, while he was volunteering to pilot a World War II bombing mission in France Four years after the family lost him, a small plane crashed during a storm in France in 1948, killing President Kennedy's sister, Kathleen Kennedy, and three others. She was 28. Saoirse Kennedy Hill, a granddaughter of Robert F. Kennedy, died of an accidental overdose resulting from a toxic mixture of methadone, alcohol and other prescription drugs, according to a newly issued death certificate. President John F. Kennedy and his brother, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy were both assassinated. Two decades ago, a small plane crash killed JFK's son, John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife, Carolyn Kennedy, and sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette. An infant son dies In 1963, President Kennedy and first lady Jacqueline Kennedy suffered yet another loss. They announced the birth of their third child, Patrick, nearly six weeks early. He survived for less than two days In 1964, JFK's brother, Sen. Edward "Ted" Kennedy, survived a plane crash that killed two people. He was on a campaign flight from Washington to Massachusetts In 1984, David Kennedy, one of Ethel and Robert F. Kennedy's children, died in a Florida hotel after a drug overdose. Michael Kennedy, another son of the late Robert F. Kennedy, died in 1997 during a ski accident in Colorado on New Year's Eve. In 1973, Ted Kennedy's 12-year-old son Edward Jr. lost a leg to bone cancer. Doctors diagnosed Ted Kennedy with a malignant brain tumor in 2008 and he had surgery the same year. He died more than a year later at age 77.
@GavinsMarineMom
@GavinsMarineMom Ай бұрын
"Marcus" of Hartington 😂
@AngelNytnurse
@AngelNytnurse Ай бұрын
It would seem that the Kennedys and the British Royals had a lot in common. What wasn’t perfect to their standards was hidden away, almost forgotten. ie the little prince who had epilepsy… sad💀
@AngelNytnurse
@AngelNytnurse Ай бұрын
I have a serious question to ask, were the Kennedy matriarches related, because Joseph and his wife looked a lot alike. Just wondering if there was any inbreeding going on? As in Royal families
@nicolad8822
@nicolad8822 Ай бұрын
He was protected, he was was well cared for and visited by his family.
@AngelNytnurse
@AngelNytnurse Ай бұрын
@@nicolad8822 But almost forgotten if not for a brother who mentioned him much later as an afterthought.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
@@AngelNytnurseYou’re determined to find fault with Prince John care, aren’t you? The poor child also had behaviour problems so they stopped presenting him to the public. The Kennedy’s wrecked their daughters brain and then locked her away. Not the same thing at all.
@AngelNytnurse
@AngelNytnurse Ай бұрын
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i you have your thoughts and I have mine, you don’t have to agree, but I am entitled to mine. Nuff said!
@cindyrealtalk7690
@cindyrealtalk7690 Ай бұрын
Parents and Families should never control who their Children marry or love. Real Love can not be chosen except by the HEART and SOUL. Doing this any other way is completely wrong! RIP Kathleen, so sorry you went through so much!😢❤
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 Ай бұрын
To have been a school friends who accepted an invitation from Kathleen to "stay at my house for the weekend."
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Omg, skin crawl.🤮
@user-bn4mn2xe3h
@user-bn4mn2xe3h Ай бұрын
god bless kathleen.you are in the arms of god,hug rosemary for us.
@Shakespearelover1717
@Shakespearelover1717 6 күн бұрын
I would have hated to have been a member of that family. Both parents were sickos. Rose had no compassion that typical mothers have. She even weighed her kids once a week and starved them if she thought they had gained even a pound. Old Joe talked family values and acted like a fool in a cat house with a credit card. I’m glad Kathleen broke away from those awful people and had a fairly normal life after she married who she wanted.
@benandemmasmom
@benandemmasmom Ай бұрын
You didn't mention Senator Ted Kennedy who doesn't have the halo like John and Bob, .
@saddletramp6935
@saddletramp6935 Ай бұрын
What halos? Those two were not angels by any stretch of imagination.
@jennifferwalton3345
@jennifferwalton3345 Ай бұрын
They didnt have halos either. Just that Teddy got caught with Cappaquiddick. They had a rapist and murderer in the next generation
@saddletramp6935
@saddletramp6935 Ай бұрын
@@jennifferwalton3345 Old Chapaquidick Fats caused his own problems, leaving poor Mary Jo to drown . What a coward.
@lindashuman8510
@lindashuman8510 Ай бұрын
Very pretty lady.
@paulamartin9238
@paulamartin9238 Ай бұрын
Made his money in prohibition days
@user-cy3ge3hh6f
@user-cy3ge3hh6f Ай бұрын
PEOPLE ARE CHRISTIANS ✝️ WHEN IT SUITS THEIR PURPOSE ONLY WHEN THE 📷 CAMERAS ARE ROLLING
@candaceroberts3238
@candaceroberts3238 Ай бұрын
Don’t lump Christians in with the KENNEDYS, they lived for themselves only and the rest was show.
@travelseatsyellowlab
@travelseatsyellowlab Ай бұрын
Had Kathleen obeyed her parents, she probably would've easily lived into her 90s. She would've had plenty of time to find a good relationship.
@Rose-ne6xq
@Rose-ne6xq Ай бұрын
When I first clicked here, I thought this was about Rose. I'm so sorry to hear that Katherine was treated poorly too. And you mentioned JF and Bobby, but you left out Ted (who outlived his 2 brothers and had just about the same claim to fame, politics). Just saying
@kathleendobens6648
@kathleendobens6648 Ай бұрын
Ted was a sexual abuser. Read about a woman he raped that he worked with. A murderer of young girl kopene in the water drowned and walked away.
@nanabutner
@nanabutner Ай бұрын
Ted was responsible for the death of Mary Jo Kopechne at Chappaquiddick. That was Ted’s claim to fame!
@gmanette188
@gmanette188 Ай бұрын
Heart broken my tush She was controlling
@susanboyd-ji2zl
@susanboyd-ji2zl 6 күн бұрын
Evil Joe destroyed his daughter Rosemary and Katherine.
@bellyarty
@bellyarty Ай бұрын
Edensor is pronounced Enser.
@Bruniebear
@Bruniebear Ай бұрын
He seemed to have difficulty pronouncing or enunciating a lot of words.
@carolbrownleehalbert3593
@carolbrownleehalbert3593 Ай бұрын
Don't forget ROSE . KENNEDY HEe presented her with a LOBOTOBY.
@kennethzullick6897
@kennethzullick6897 Ай бұрын
The only good looking Kennedy woman there was.
@PhDrSeuss
@PhDrSeuss Ай бұрын
Was who? I always thought it was the daughter RoseMary
@user-fp2kt1le2e
@user-fp2kt1le2e Ай бұрын
You can really tell she was a Kennedy.
@TheNester.
@TheNester. Ай бұрын
Rosemary was the beauty of the family, she looked nothing like the Kennedy's.
@Colorbrush21
@Colorbrush21 Ай бұрын
Rosemary was the prettiest Kennedy sister. Kathleen was not really pretty but was attractive. Her personality was so sparkling that people were drawn to her. Eunice was very striking when she was young. Patricia and Jean were considered attractive although many people considered Patricia (who later married Peter Lawford) very pretty.
@evavaldez1185
@evavaldez1185 Ай бұрын
Absolutely a great example of “religious intolerance” isn’t new-I’ve often stated that not only is religious freedom was never a” real” American freedom accepted by the white, male , bigoted & misogynistic patriarchy infrastructure
@lynngregory393
@lynngregory393 Ай бұрын
It wasn’t that it was accepted, it was the law.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
@@lynngregory393I think she may mean socially. Probably still true today. But not everything is about race. Sad.
@DWilliams-ce8nb
@DWilliams-ce8nb Ай бұрын
How can ''Factinate'' make vids about Hollywood and have NO CLUE what a ''Starlet'' is? Too funny!! LOLOLOL
@kimbradley9595
@kimbradley9595 Ай бұрын
Neither did he family does what they do
@eugenio1542
@eugenio1542 15 күн бұрын
Good show but don’t you mean “Fascinate” ????
@joanbroad3528
@joanbroad3528 Ай бұрын
Kick Kennedy was a fantastic girl, she was bright, loving and kind. She had a magnetic personality and befriended both men and women who she was very loyal to. To know her was to love her, my Mum who was a nurse met her once in London during the war, she never ever forgot her and was incredibly upset when she was killed. Rose Kennedy was an abomination in her treatment of her children, JFK had no time for her! I visited her grave near Chatsworth House as did President Kennedy a couple of years back, it’s sad but peaceful. God bless Kathleen x
@KOMET2006
@KOMET2006 Ай бұрын
From what I've read of the Kennedys, both Kathleen and JFK were especially close. Indeed, when JFK learned of her death, he sobbed.
@joanbroad3528
@joanbroad3528 Ай бұрын
@@KOMET2006 yes you are absolutely correct!
@LadyBug1967
@LadyBug1967 Ай бұрын
Joan where's Chatsworth house? Also Joan you couldn't have visited with President Kennedy the grave a couple years ago because President Kennedy has been dead for over a half century. just saying 😉
@joanbroad3528
@joanbroad3528 Ай бұрын
@@LadyBug1967 hi, Chatsworth House is the seat of the Dukes of Devonshire. This Stately home is situated in Derbyshire England. I meant I have visited Kathleen’s grave a couple of years ago as did President Kennedy when he made a state visit here in the early sixties. Obviously I didn’t mean I went with him!!! 🙄🙄🙄
@LadyBug1967
@LadyBug1967 Ай бұрын
@@joanbroad3528 Yes and no. The English language has grammatical rules to create easier understanding of another person's thoughts. I read rather rapidly the dozens of comments on each podcast and I love everyone's views so yours really gave me pause, as I tried to quickly figure out-- where is this place and how did this happen two years ago when Kennedy's been dead for over half a century. Now Bobby Jr gets around and is alive but it couldn't be THAT Kennedy, could it? So my mind was rapidly moving thru the hundreds of Kennedy's still alive. As an American we can't get away from them. They're always in the news even if they've done nothing more than have a cup of coffee on the terrace of some nondescript Cafe. So I had to be a stickler for grammar. THAT'S all. Sorry if I disturbed you because I think you're a lovely person and I thank you kindly for telling me where this place is located. Also I'm tired of hearing of the Kennedy curse! IF it's a curse to be a Kennedy, I'll take it any day ! THEY have so much money & so much privilege, such that John Junior, who died in that terrible airplane accident, said that his privileged position gave him one main thing, the access to meeting so many interesting people! THAT'S REALLY what I wish that we all had. That of course is impossible and I realize that. But I do enjoy the people I meet in the comment section of these different podcasts. They are very interesting people with unique ways of looking at things. Thanks & be glad that you live in a country where you can kick your leader to the curb in a wink of the 👁️ while Americans can't even get rid of ours when they're past expiration date & and some seem to boomerang back. 🤨
@judiwelch7053
@judiwelch7053 Ай бұрын
What they did to rosemary, this is mild ! As a special Ed teacher, it made me sick. How could they treat her with such cruelty ? All for society’s expectations of what is acceptable. Dreadful hypocrites.
@PrissyTxTomboy
@PrissyTxTomboy Ай бұрын
Thank you for teaching very special people! I have great admiration for special ed teachers.
@fatimaaparecida3994
@fatimaaparecida3994 Ай бұрын
Ketlyn era uma moça bonita magina os filhos lindos que ela teria com o marido
@kimbradley9595
@kimbradley9595 Ай бұрын
He was a very evil man and chasing hi daughters female friends money talks gross old men use it......
@relax2dream164
@relax2dream164 Ай бұрын
I had no idea about Kathleen! That curse was real!
@eugenegilleno9344
@eugenegilleno9344 Ай бұрын
How did you know all the detail of the aircraft crash that killed Kathleen if all the passengers died ?......methinks, this was exaggerated and made up ! Otherwise, it was quite interesting 🥴
@kristinepark214
@kristinepark214 26 күн бұрын
Read the book!
@mrs.m.pennycuick7876
@mrs.m.pennycuick7876 Ай бұрын
Joe was sacked so had to leave!
@dianaguenzler2897
@dianaguenzler2897 Ай бұрын
She wasn't the first Kennedy child to die an early death. Their oldest son, Patrick died first in WW11.
@GavinsMarineMom
@GavinsMarineMom Ай бұрын
Their oldest son who died in WWII was Joseph P Kennedy Jr. They didn't have a son named Patrick.
@dianaguenzler2897
@dianaguenzler2897 Ай бұрын
@@GavinsMarineMom Sorry, his name wasn't important to my point. Their eldest child, A SON died during WWII in a plane crash before Kathleen's death. Is that correct info for you?
@GavinsMarineMom
@GavinsMarineMom Ай бұрын
@@dianaguenzler2897 😆
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
I can't believe Kathleen wanted tostay in England during the war.
@nicolad8822
@nicolad8822 Ай бұрын
Why?
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Freedom from that awful family of hers and to do her bit for England, the country she loved.
@darcy5823
@darcy5823 Ай бұрын
Just remember, the treatment that Rosemary received was considered cutting edge medical care in it's a day. Her parents were trying to give her the best medical care money could buy in their time. She was hidden somewhat, but it was normal and expected then. The way he tells it, it sounds purposefully abusive. It was not.
@PhDrSeuss
@PhDrSeuss Ай бұрын
Joe had Rose Mary lobotomized, behind his wife, Rose, back. She found out afterwards.
@PhDrSeuss
@PhDrSeuss Ай бұрын
Joe is the reason for Rosemary's lobotomy. Her mother, Rose, knew nothing about it until afterwards.
@nicolad8822
@nicolad8822 Ай бұрын
She embarrassed him.
@TheNester.
@TheNester. Ай бұрын
​@@PhDrSeuss But Rose is the reason for Rosemary's having the physical condition from her birth. It's reportedly stated that Rose Kennedy wanted to wait for her doctors arrival. She kept her legs closed for 2 hours. That resulted in a harmful loss of oxygen to the baby Rosemary.
@rhondabitler5474
@rhondabitler5474 Ай бұрын
Somebody always has to put a sinister spin on it
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Ай бұрын
You can't really blame the senior Kennedys for not going to England during the war to attend her wedding.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Joe was the effing ambassador, but was fired cos of his anti English comments and his certainty that Britain would be occupied by the Nazis. He recommended that Roosevelt not assist us. His hatred blinded him, evil man. He didn’t give a thought to his ‘beloved’ Ireland!!! He really was a fool in some ways.
@phyllisneal8687
@phyllisneal8687 Ай бұрын
OMG! For me, growing up in Hyannis, and greeting the President, and Mrs. Kennedy, and Caroline, for Sunday Mass, whew! This bull crapo is laughable ~ FULL of lies! What is WRONG with you, commentator?
@keithbuchanan8588
@keithbuchanan8588 Ай бұрын
What lies??? These things happen. Facts.
@user-fq8rs7rz3i
@user-fq8rs7rz3i Ай бұрын
Heroes have feet of clay sometimes, and the Kennedy’s were no exception.
@jennifferwalton3345
@jennifferwalton3345 Ай бұрын
This family was rife with skeletons.
@phyllisneal8687
@phyllisneal8687 Ай бұрын
@@keithbuchanan8588 where's your proof? Please don't say, "Everyone knows!". That's Fox Nzi Newz speak! BTW: please publish, here, all of your family's personal information, addresses, schools, etc.. I'd like to look you all up & get actuall quotes, concerning your family! Is that ok with you? Also, this family has given two sons, to this country! Before that, the two oldest Kennedy sons were BOTH war heroes. We'll never know what the secret mission was, that Joe Kennedy was on , but he gave his life for this country! Jack saved his crew mates. Just be quiet. You know nothing ‼️
@mangos2888
@mangos2888 Ай бұрын
This video is boring as hell
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