The LOST Super Mario Game We NEVER GOT! - Video Game Mysteries

[@WeSkeem]

Did this man open his video by stating 3D Mario is more popular than 2D Mario- as if that was the standard public opinion- despite that being extremely contrarian to anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds around gaming? And then proceed to cite a source disputing his claim, but using it as somehow evidence of his claim still being true? What is going on here?

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

You should review the not so lost anymore Luigi’s Mansion SpaceWorld full demo. It would be amazing.

[@TheSherriea1]

it's Not Blooping Lost anymore?

[@drwily]

Looked into it but there isnt a whole lot there, will do some vids on luigis mansion though

[@TheSherriea1]

@@drwily Cool.

[@Blood-PawWerewolf]

@@drwily what about Super Mario 128? That’s another common internet mystery in the gaming space that still hasn’t been found

[@rainbowspongebob]

Wait it isn’t lost anymore?

[@MohamedMukassabi]

Super Mario FX is the project codename for the Super FX Chip that helped make Star Fox. It's was never a game to begin with.

[@junjloc3774]

SNES also had Super Mario rpg-Legend of the 7 stars.

[@junjloc3774]

shoulda watched the video first lol

[@trollsome]

6:42 Mario head from mario teaches typing 2?

[@morganmedrano920]

I love the Paul Rudd SNES commercial. I think Jack Black dud one for Pitfall.

[@noreeneff357]

Actually Dylan L.? (I think) confirmed that super mario fx was the codename for the super fx chip. Super Mario Fx was never planned.

[@lornelthaltmer]

but mario tennis for virtual boy did happen

[@lornelthaltmer]

you forgot an important detail, while this 3d mario game never actually released there was in fact a 3d mario game released(if you could call it 3d beause of how bad it was). This mario was called MARIO TENNIS and it was released on the NINTENDO VIRTUAL BOY; one year prior to the n64 consoles release to the market.

[@pennyandrews3292]

I would actually agree with the interpretation that Super Mario RPG would have been considered a 3D game by the standards of the time. I mean, look at what Sega put out as "Sonic 3D Blast," it's pretty much the same style as Super Mario RPG. Even earlier, we see Yoshi's Safari which has kind of a pseudo-3D effect in Mode 7. It's likely the idea of a 3D Mario game was already being toyed with for years, and Super Mario 64 was the culmination of those experiments. I highly doubt that there is a lost 3D Mario game for the SNES, but it's pretty easy to see where Super Mario 64 came from just looking at two of the more technically impressive Mario games on the SNES.

[@jeffthecoder]

I feel like if use of the Super FX chip was geared more toward things like sprite scaling and rotation and complex graphics compression, a good looking Mario 3D game would've absolutely been possible. For example, prerender Mario and the baddies Donkey Kong Country style, utilize Mode 7 similar to games like "Speed Racer", "Extreme Snowboarding" and "Off Road Baja" to have hilly 3D perspective terrain, and utilize the Super FX chip to handle complex graphics compression for high sprite frame counts and to scale/rotate sprites in real time to have a 3D Mario game similar to the original Crash Bandicoot games..

[@Xegethra]

Consoles really did take their time getting good enough for this sort of stuff. Hell, even PC gaming took a bit of a while to get 3D going in the late 80's/early 90's when we had arcade games like iRobot from the 83 and CGI tech demos and animations from the 70's.

[@natalyguardado4604]

This came as a huge surprise to me. I can’t believe super Mario 64 wasn’t actually going to be the first 3-D Mario game in existence! It was going to be a game that we never got! And its name was super Mario FX? Holy crap! This is some of the most interesting stuff that I have ever heard! You never fail to amaze me with this information every time, Wily. I first came across this KZbin channel by complete accident. I was looking for some interesting Mario videos to watch, and the first video that I ever saw on this channel was the evolution of the Boo video. But after I watched that video, I started to wonder if there were more videos just like it. Fortunately for me, there was. And I have really enjoyed this channel ever since. Thank you for making this awesome content, Wily. One of my fondest memories of watching your videos is when my grandma and I would drop my sister off at school for some summer activities that she was having. And when my grandma and I were walking home from my sisters old school, I would watch your videos.

[@lornelthaltmer]

look up mario tennis for virtual boy.

[@super8bitable]

This video is just misinformation and trying to pass off a theory as a “fact”. There never was a Super Mario FX being made.

[@natalyguardado4604]

@@super8bitable i’m not saying that this is facts. But it is an interesting theory. Besides, I like Mario theory videos.

[@Ninblasto]

Oh yes, I remember this! There was going to be a 3D Mario game for the SNES FX thing. I can't wait to see it's origins and stuff in this video! Editor's Note: This was actually a fascinating video. And everything makes more sense now. Keep up the good work!

[@olds86307]

super mario fx was never ment to be a game, nor did it exist

[@krisuh11]

@@olds86307And if it somehow existed it most likely was a early tech demo, however i do not believe ''Super Mario FX'' Was ever a thing, i just like to see people doing theorys about it.

[@alysdexia]

its, hick

[@alysdexia]

@@krisuh11 not theòry unless proven

[@super8bitable]

No there wasn’t. Miyamoto just had the idea for what became Mario 64 during Star Fox’s development.

[@gyorggames9268]

It would've been insane if they managed to have a 3D Mario game in 1993 🥴🥴

[@alysdexia]

you mean Super Mario Kart?

[@jeanetteedwards8216]

Or 1994

[@trapez77]

It would have been like the walking parts of star Fox 2

[@DBTGAMER]

Mario RPG dose make a lot of sence. That is probably the best game they could have made with the curret tech.

[@drwily]

100%, snes was limited after all

[@thissdagomedinas34rttt6y2]

I have a snes

[@jeffosoft]

I was blown away when this game Came out. The first system to not have a pack in game :/ In hindsight Mario world I feel was the superior game though.

[@deandresinclair]

That was very intriguing 🤔 and interesting about any past and future technology for 3d systems for Nintendo

[@ThymeHere]

I remember watching this channel a long time ago but then i forgot it existed.

[@netsendjoe]

Many games were developed on previous generation hardware and this seems like the case here as well. Zelda Link to The Past had a beta on the NES. Super Mario World was also a beta on the NES. Even Donkey Kong Country had a beta on the NES. All were intended on being SNES games upon release. So it makes sense that a beta for Mario 64 was being developed on the SNES and finalized for the N64.

[@olds86307]

super mario fx was never ment to be a game, nor did it exist. It was the name for the super fx chip

[@drwily]

Covered that in the vid ;)

[@olds86307]

@@drwily k

[@Revolution5268]

In other words nothing it does not exist. I saved you 8 minutes of nothing you guys.

[@Therealkibo]

Hey I love your vids ❤️

[@WarmLillie]

We might loss the game but we have found evidence

[@robwar1992]

Megaman would probably be happier if wilys alternate reality counterpart was around

[@danielmoncrief4997]

Super Mario 64 is one of my favorite mario games. I didn't see Super Mario FX working out either.

[@olds86307]

super mario fx was never ment to be a game, nor did it exist

[@noeadjeodaalt2121]

I've heard somewhere that the concept idea of a 3D mario game actually started during the development of Super Mario Bros 3 but that miyamoto was against it because he thought perspective might make the game unplayable

[@forcakong2396]

Mario RPG is kinda 3d.

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

While Miyamoto did briefly consider a 3D Mario game for the SNES, Super Mario FX in itself was just a code-name for the chip used for games like Star Fox and Stunt Race FX. I doubt a 3D Mario title on the SNES would have ever worked out all that well (never mind the struggling frame-rates in Star Fox), but it's interesting to imagine what it would have been like.

[@trapez77]

It would have been like the walking parts of star Fox 2

[@pastaboy5639]

Super Mario rpg sort of 3d

[@Xegethra]

Sort of, it's faking it. But then, all graphics are faking it, some more convincingly than others.

[@archdukebigdogkoopa3821]

SUPER MARIO RPG = SUPER MARIO 64 BEFORE THERE WAS A SUPER MARIO 64. (ORIGINAL JOKE DO NOT STEAL)

[@crashban4t.f.s.b783]

He said that that was the name of the internal chip. He didn’t say it was never in development.

[@drwily]

true that

[@ExtremeWreck]

It's really sad in how people either don't know or just deny that Alpha Waves existed before Super Mario 64 was even considered: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4CQlqOorr9geKM And apparently Infogrames doesn't even have plans to re-release it which is unfortunate because this is an IMPORTANT GAME in the history of 3D platformers!

[@hri7566]

6:20 super mario rpg never utilized the FX chip

[@jaccrabtree5019]

Honestly if they tried to make an SNES fx mario game, they could probs do it, because in Star fox 2, a finished yet unreleased sequel for Star fox that only appeared on the SNES classic edition, the final section has you walking in a 3D environment where jumping, walking in 8 directions and turning the camera were things you could do.

[@Twenteeeee]

All right the reason why we never got it was because it's not real super Mario FX was the code name of the super FX chip and the creators of the chip and the creator of Mario said that there was no 3D Mario game in development until 95

[@jarmag1512]

Ah right! I knew that game (Mario FX) years ago but forgot it!

[@bobsterclause342]

Wow, I don't know why you only have a few views and like. I mean, your not any less quality than the other sutff. And by that I mean the quality is good.

[@philipposkasotis8658]

The game would have been slow and buggy back then. The technology was just not there for that kind of game

[@jerrold3685]

2:50 into this thing before you anounce the title. Need to get better at disguising your click bait.

[@64logik18]

Make a video about the semi-lost Star Fox 2!

[@hsjoberg]

0:04 LOL what? 2D Mario by far outsells 3D Mario titles. You can go look at different listings of best selling mario games. This also is why Nintendo around WiiU area just pumped out generic 2D Mario games because it's resonates easier with casual players.

[@ImagineABear]

The 3D titles tend to get better reviews.

[@archdukebigdogkoopa3821]

*_A BIG OOF FOR ME!_* Man, such a fool I was to think SM64 originally started out as a SNES game. Such a FOOL!!!!

[@Average-Cacodemon-Enjoyer]

Well whenever I hear something like this is lost, I just think. Maybe, just maybe it was for the better. Hopefully

[@theJamesexpress]

This is not true and is just a rumor confirmed to be never in the works to bad though but it would kinda look bad so we're also lucky

[@Crowssen]

is nobody gonna ask why he talked about 2D games inthe intro and it showed Mario Odyssey

[@drwily]

lmao ssssshhhhh

[@Crowssen]

@@drwily 😈

[@kayb6061]

I really want to see a 3d yoshi's island game because the yoshi's island game where i saw where only 2d and it's really about time for a 3d yoshi's island game

[@OrdinaryMarioBrosOfficial]

What if every personalized copy of Mario 64 was haunted by this game??

[@drwily]

hahahah soon i will cover that as well ;)

[@OrdinaryMarioBrosOfficial]

Okay cool!

[@jasongrogan6545]

What a big fat coincidence, huh? M.A.R.I.O chip. From Nintendo.

[@kotlolish]

The editor: Can anyone find the weegee hidden in the video? If you can respond to this comment with it's time stamp and be hidden in the next video as well! Me: Well I can since I AM THE EDITOR! BUT CAN YOU!?

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video

[@drwily]

thanks!

[@LOKI0186]

Mario rpg was 3d

[@nancoppedge4019]

Nintendo's first 3D game was actuelly a Starfox game. Pretty weird, huh?

[@drwily]

i mean true hahaha

[@joemignogna6486]

Ah man. Why does everyone have such high opinions of this game and oot? I never liked SM64 but I'll concede that oot was good at the time.

[@zerocks88]

thAN is referring to AN object, was it better THAN ? thEN is referring to a time like WHEN

[@archdukebigdogkoopa3821]

Though it is pretty interesting. BOOM!

[@sujimatsubackupaccount194]

Video in short . IGN overlooked and speculated without proof. An assuming a 3d MArio games on snes was to happen. To frame rate would be around 4 fps . Which is half of what starfox had at the time. Given, mario would rely on more fx chips , and still run slow. Due, to the limitations of the Snes. A 3d open world mario would be impossible. Now , if it was a 2.5D Mario it could be possible. But, the fps would be dreadful and not worth the devs and the players time .

[@vinnyandlin8510]

I thought Super Mario rpg used the SA1 chip

[@fan0]

Of course there was a 3D Mario game before SM64 *SUPER MARIO KART*

[@amogus_sussy]

First Platformer, Not Racing game

[@drwily]

hahahaha no that was done using mode 7

[@fan0]

@@drwily Oh right

[@coryfoster747]

do a Video Game Mysteries on dk64

[@drwily]

will look into it all to see if there is something to cover ;)

[@jestr9551]

Super Mario 64 was great

[@JonJon2627]

We are not in year 2 thousands we are in year of 20 hundreds

[@matiasd.7755]

Please, stop spreading the fake believe that SNES was designed to be expanded as a singular feature: All cartridge based systems can be upgraded with chips built into cartridges. The first example I can think of is the Atari 2600 with the pitfall 2 game also including a builtin chip.The ideal is that you would not need them but when the system is so weak, there's no other solution. I mean, I had paid for 7 MMC3 chips in seven different games when the NES was still kicking. I should've paid less if NES had implemented those features.

[@padmanproduction6650]

#DrWily, did Bowser created Wario?

[@Itsyallanimator]

Um Helllo super mario rpg?

[@Fato4Life]

272K subscribers

[@SlayerSantiago]

I know this has never been confirmed but I truly believe the engine developed for Super Mario RPG was originally intended to be used for rendering Final Fantasy VII if it had released on the SNES instead of the PS1.

[@drwily]

wow didnt know that if it is true.

[@magnumblaster01]

Mario 64 was this big disappointment to me all the hours of gameplay collecting all the stars that's all you get is a lame message thanks for playing my game that's it after I beat it I traded to GameStop next day when they made the game they should have had at least unlockable stuff who else is with me you unlock all the stars to get nothing in return it was a good game I found it pointless to get all the stars lol

[@Xegethra]

Yeah it kinda sucks when games do that. But at the same time, when I'm done with a game I'm done with it....It's a bit of a contradiction.

[@spacedad9024]

Your memoji guy popping up every 10 seconds gets annoying real quick.

[@LegoAndrew08]

15th 1 hour ago

[@BecksAngelic]

No one cares!

[@alysdexia]

not theòry unless proven

[@t.terone522]

Mario Odyssey has horrible design. The color choice is disgusting. It goes back to how shitty the colors of Mario64 were when Nintendo had no clue how colors work together and what looks nice and what doesnt. Total clash of art styles with the color choice and temperature in Odyssey

[@Xegethra]

Friend of mine loves Odyssey. But I'm not feeling it.

[@t.terone522]

@@Xegethra Yeah to me odyssey feels like WORK and not like exploration. I dont like the world and I miss something that gives me "home" vibes. Like the castle in 64 did or the Island in Sunshine etc. OR even the spaceship in Galaxy2. (Galaxy 1 space station not so much)

[@ChaossX77]

This video is completely incorrect.

[@jamescox2894]

Whats up with the weird voice inflection in most of your sentences?

[@drwily]

Just my voice, always been a thing and I'm not a native English speaker

[@johnbeal839]

Super Mario RPG was developed by Square, not Nintendo.

[@kingzombie951]

I dont think we got it becuse it's was not powerfull enough. I think itight have been similar to Mario 64

[@drwily]

yeah probably

[@lukewilsontv]

The N64 graphics have aged so poorly… who knows what Mario fx would perform on newer TVs 😭

[@drwily]

hahahhah it would look like hell

[@mirabilis]

Playstation One too.

[@InfiniteLoop]

click bait.

[@AnimaAnimatesYT]

16th comment lol

[@BecksAngelic]

No one cares!

[@drwily]

be nice

[@aliceangel03]

First!

[@Cliffordlonghead]

NOT CRIMINAL BOT

[@aliceangel03]

@@Cliffordlonghead what?

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@aliceangel03 Too late

[@aliceangel03]

@@Cliffordlonghead damn :(

[@BecksAngelic]

No one cares!

[@linkpemberton1738]

first

[@Cliffordlonghead]

U ARE NOT FIRST CRIMINAL BOT

[@BecksAngelic]

No one cares!

[@linkpemberton1738]

1rst

[@Cliffordlonghead]

NOT CRIMINAL BOT

[@fan0]

@@Cliffordlonghead But he is first

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@fan0 he not first CRIMINAL BOT

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@fan0 if u don't Agee with me u will not be welcome to my channel

[@fan0]

@@Cliffordlonghead Ok, I don't care