The M-Cave Mystery: New Clues About Kenny Veach's Disappearance

[@zer0deaths862]

I always believed if Kenny did bug out on his own he would venture out the opposite direction of where he said he was going, he may have used the M Cave as a distraction to keep people not only looking for this "cave" but also keep them looking in the completely wrong direction.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@zer0deaths862 Thank you for joining the Adventure. This is the reason for this video which ties into the "Kenny Veach Found Almost 10 Years in the Nevada Desert?" where I found hiim hiking in the middle of nowhere, which I believed caught him off guard. You're right about Kenny's intention was to lead people in the wrong direction, especially if he had a plan to go somewhere else entirely. The M Cave was the perfect way to throw everyone off his trail and the ex-girlfriend to wait 7 days before she reported him missing, to give him time.

[@blackcellagent]

This story was one of the very first I had come across when I started KZbin years and years ago. It’s always been in the back of my mind. So many ways it could have shaken out. Fast forward now, I’ve found your channel shedding much more light than I have ever previously seen.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@blackcellagent Thank you for watching and thanks for going on this Adventure! Please check out my other videos if you haven't already in regards to why I went down this rabbit hole and why I will put a stop to this m cave phenomenon and all the BS behind it. Hope to see you on more Adventures!

[@occamsrazor9183]

It is amazing how one man's video, he disappears with a cave story, and a legend is born. This place looks like a nice hike, rough also. I saw the people dissing on your edits filler, pay no mind to whiners, peace...

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@occamsrazor9183 What’s even more fascinating is that the cave itself, the central piece of the story, was never found. Whether it was real or just a figment of Kenny's imagination, it became this symbol of the unknown, fueling endless speculation. People love a mystery, especially one that feels just out of reach, and Kenny gave them exactly that. Hey, I appreciate the great comment and thank you for going on this Adventure and I hope to see you on more.

[@susanveach9013]

I hope I don't speak out of turn if so just delete my comment, but the author of this video's father was in law enforcement for many years and I received an email with observations from his father and as I told him " Your father nailed it 100% on everything, I also stated that had his father handled this case Kenny would have been found by now!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@susanveach9013 Susan, I can't thank you enough for your ongoing support and for sharing those observations. It means a lot to hear that his take on things resonated with you, especially given how close you are to this case. My dad's knowledge and experience along with mine have definitely helped me approach the search of Kenny a little different than most out there. There is always two sides of the story! I believe that I'm on the right track and with your insight and of course more is always welcome, so never hesitate to share your thoughts as you have my number or email me. Thank you again for everything!

[@MEL31T]

A psychic medium on KZbin did a reading about her and said Brian took her to a cave as he and his parents are illuminati members and there are holograms covering entrances so she won't be found she was alive but had little energy

[@trainman1209]

I would like to see someone dig out that covered cave opening. At ground level. Just like KV described. More than one guy. Maybe 4. With U.S. Army Shovels. Find out why someone covered up that cave. I wonder if Kenny Veach is in that cave? I like the guy who said " if my Dad who's in Law Enforcement had investigated this, "he would have found KV by now!"

[@trutwhut6550]

​@@trainman1209 One of the bigger theories is that he went back to the cave/mine area, but the cave contained radioactive materials either from military testing or scientific research, he got too deep into either and got sick, retrieving the body wound be safe especially for PR.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

Didn't Susan mention that his home didn't go into foreclosure until several years later? I'm sure the local LEO's would be checking those records to see who and how it was being paid for. Your theory is entirely plausible that it was faked. How many KZbinrs do things just for attention or likes, how many people that disappeared, only to reappear later (decades in some cases). Yeah, it's a desert wilderness area, but lots of trails and camping all over. Mysteries are always interesting.

[@VajraDhara-bl9cw]

Dear Mr.DrivenXAdventure I have watched many videos on Mr. Veach and Mcave, etc and I have weighed many perspectives on what could’ve happened. For me, your investment of time and energy to get to the bottom of this mystery and to look into details and subtle clues provides me yet the most compelling theory about what might have occurred. Out of everything I’ve learned about all of this, for me, how you have come to your conclusion about his faked death with many details you’ve learned but not necessarily have shared shows me that your theory is most likely what actually happened. I’m interested in staying in the Adventure with you and I’m sure many many many more people would like to see this case come to a close. But with all of that said, in that what you have provided so far is the most compelling I’ve found to be true, I’m still open to what happened until something more turns up. Thank you and great work!!!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@VajraDhara-bl9cw I really appreciate that, I hope to be able to get you more answers in the future and bring closure to this Mystery to finally put it to rest and Thank you for sticking with me on this Adventure and I hope to see you on other Adventures!

[@VajraDhara-bl9cw]

@@DrivenXAdventureYes indeed!!! 😃 😃 😃

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@VajraDhara-bl9cw Thanks for your support!

[@Mikeworm513]

I think he’s out there somewhere watching these videos laughing . I just came across this story today and now I’m fully invested ! 😂 Thank you for taking us on the hike !

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Mikeworm513 Thank you for going on this Adventure, I really do appreciate that you took the time. I hope to see you on the Next Adventure!

[@TROLLBOGIES14]

He’s watching on his sisters stolen IPad 😂

[@59thSurvivor-of-VHS]

It is not an impossibility I have thought this too

[@LinnyRaven]

Kenny is now living in Eugene, Oregon. He is safe and well

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@LinnyRaven Thank you for sharing that information. If this is true, it’s good to hear that Kenny is safe and well. If you have any more details you’d like to share, feel free to reach out.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

The story of Kenny Veach and the M Cave never ceases to spark curiosity. But did you know there are hidden clues in his old videos that many people have overlooked? We’re not just revisiting his path-we're searching for answers that might have been missed. Subscribe to join the journey and help piece together the mystery! Thank you for going on this Adventure!

[@heatherbowen3795]

What videos are these I would like to watch them

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ check my channel and I’ll be posting more content soon in regards to this mystery

[@cjndaily6062]

I agree with you.. and there are two points I'd like to note... This gal you think drove him away, this leaving his car stated... Kenny went to commit suicide. He didn't go, to find the MCave and prove it exists. And the reason she KNEW this wasn't because he was depressed and talked about suicide and no one would find him, but rather it was stated by her or his ex, that they suspected what his plan, was due to the fact, he took only his gun, but never took his camera gear. So... If he didn't have his camera gear? Who was taking the video of him standing by the mineshaft with his gun strapped on. He had no gear. He had a cellphone but it didn't appear to be cellphone video and if it was cellphone video he had no gear, like a monopod or whatever. Someone, took that video so he wasn't alone. He was also very nervous and mistakenly called the saddle hills he intended to travel up through... The name of the mountain behind him. Seemed odd to me for a guy who knew the name of every peak up there to accidentally call the Ridgeline he's hiked multiple times, the wrong name. Kenny left his phone... So he needed a replacement. Surveillance video showed him stealing an iPad from his ex's shop at night. And being as addicted to the area as he was? Another KZbinr ran across either Kenny wandering around in the middle of nowhere and if it wasn't Kenny, then Kenny has a doppelganger or a stunt double. Nope... Kenny is alive and well, and he needed the iPad so he could watch the progression of the clown house sht-show he created, and to keep tabs on if he successfully fooled everyone. Yeah... He's out there and he's alive and enjoying the ride. Mark my words... Kenny was an amateur creator. And I fully believe, he's now writing what he believes will be a block buster book that eventually will lead to a movie when he magically reappears and spins the story of finally escaping the clutches of the mysterious MCave... Note also how he salted it with the "missing time? Prequel. It's coming everyone... Stay tuned. It's coming soon to a bookstore and a theater near you.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@cjndaily6062 Thanks for watching and I like your theory! by the way the video about someone recording him in the middle of nowhere was me. That's why I've gone down this rabbit hole. Check out all my other videos and let me know what you think. I hope you stick around for more discussions and Adventures!

[@lukeGGlee]

I dont think he would want to abandon his youtube channel though…seemed like it was a big piece of his life and all

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@lukeGGlee thanks for watching only one thing wrong about this and that he wasn't a KZbinr, for some odd reason he uploaded four of his videos in once day and one a month before and that was it.

[@jamesn.economou9922]

That story you just wrote, is fictitious. It came from your mind. Quantum leaps of deduction.

[@briansouthworth737]

He's somewhere watching this and is happy how well his plan worked . . .

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@briansouthworth737 Thanks for going on this Adventure and you are so right! But at the same time kicking himself in the ass as it had backed fired for the millions of views and 3 million plus subscribers, he would be rich and making a living on KZbin!

[@murda2k]

It’s not true at all where’s the proof he just ran away dude prolly dead or inside the middle of the earth by now

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@murda2k I get it-it sounds like something straight out of a mystery novel, right? And I’m not claiming to have all the answers (I’m no Sherlock Holmes). But hey, the whole situation with Kenny is still full of unanswered questions, and I’m just looking at every angle. As for where he might be, your guess is as good as mine-maybe he’s chilling inside the Earth with a secret underground society? Who knows! But, seriously, there’s more to this story than meets the eye, and I’m just trying to share what I’ve come across. Appreciate you sharing your take, though-it all adds to the mystery! And don’t forget, I’ve got plenty more adventures and mysteries to explore, so stick around if you want to keep uncovering the truth with me.

[@riclarson1853]

I think your hypothesis is spot on. When I first heard about the "M Cave" and the guy vanishing, I instantly thought it was suspicious. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@riclarson1853 Thanks for sticking around and being part of this Adventure, I'm glad to have you on board.

[@riclarson1853]

@DrivenXAdventure I'm glad to be aboard. I admire that you keep your video's content pure, accurate, factual, and loaded common sense. Your channel is well worth watching. I love a good mystery. Keep up the true seriousness of the subject you're documenting. Cheers.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@riclarson1853 Cheers and Thank you and will do!

[@BKopf]

I am a new subscriber and I agree with you 100%. So glad I found your channel and how you were able to set the entire Kenny Veach mystery to bed.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@BKopf Welcome to the channel and thank you so much for subscribing! I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content and appreciate your support. The Kenny Veach mystery is such a fascinating adventure, as it's just that an Adventure, and while there’s still more to uncover, it means a lot to hear you’re on board with my take. Stay tuned-there’s plenty more to come!

[@cwf081166]

At 12:14 Kenny is saying what He wants, but in another video Kenny is trying to sell his home while Kenny was to be part of the deal. The purchaser would receive a rustic, southwester theme house, one adventurous Kenny Veach. In return they pay off Kenny's debit so the bank doesn't take the house, and prevent a foreclose on Kenny credit report that would have been long gone by now. Kenny went to the next state of being.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@cwf081166 Thank you for watching and sharing your take on Kenny’s situation. It’s always interesting to consider how complex these stories can be. Whether or not he moved on to another state of being, I believe there’s more to uncover, and I appreciate your input as we dig deeper. Hope to see you on the next adventure-there’s plenty more to explore on the next Adventure!

[@DJMoore-001]

Kenny's story is a cash cow for a lot of people. Susan sent me your channel link. I went out there and stayed for 4 nights and 4 days. I never felt anything but peaceful. It is good to see someone that isn't full of shit reinventing dumb shit to keep the story going. The thing about Kenny that draws the views is Area 51, Vegas and the desert. This story has all the catch phrases. I think Kenny planted his phone as a diversion left his car and was picked up. No one ever talks about Sheyrons trip to China. Wonder why that is always over looked. Kenny wasn't broke and she is a scammer. Check out her 501c3"s she has had revoked. I know I never found anything close to a cave out there and I think that was made up to make the story bigger. Hell from Joe May road at the corral, You can look in any direction and see M's everywhere, Take a step or 2 and that changes, But none of them go anywhere, 3 to 6 feet deep on average is all they go, Hardly a cave. One thing I can say is be ready for the control squads to come your way telling you what you can say and not say. Anyway they tried that with me. I just don't play that game. I wasn't looking into this for friends and after going there, I knew he faked it all.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

DJMoore-001 Thank you for sharing your perspective-I've spoken to Susan, and she is a wonderful person with a lot of information, and I hope she doesn't mind for what I'm about to say and it adds a lot of insight. Kenny’s story has certainly taken on a life of its own, especially with the connections to Area 51, Las Vegas, and the mysterious desert. These elements have attracted a huge audience, and it's no surprise that people continue to dig deeper. Like you mentioned, it feels as though his disappearance could have been carefully planned, even to the point of planting his phone and car as diversions. You bring up an intriguing point about his girlfriend, Sheyron, and her trips abroad, like her time in China, which isn’t discussed at all. There’s also her history with revoked 501c3s-Living Well Incorporated and Living Life, Inc. which include Mental Health Social/Life Skills, Coaching, Personal Development and Spiritual Awakening, Deal-Estate Investor, Paycation Travel Consultant Creating Travel for Fun & Income and so much more details that definitely complicate the picture. Since she’s a Certified Soul Coach to handle mental and emotional stress, it raises a thought-provoking possibility: could she have influenced him to stage his own disappearance to escape a life he found overwhelming? If so, it might explain why Kenny seemed to post several videos in quick succession, as if he were wrapping things up. It’s even more interesting considering Sheyron’s public statements about Kenny’s mental health and the story of his father’s death. She presented it as suicide, yet the truth was far darker-This misrepresentation makes us wonder if her public statements were intended to create a narrative that would steer people away from asking deeper questions. Then there’s the M-Cave itself. Like you pointed out, the desert is full of small caves and formations that could be described as “M-shaped,” but none seem to be the kind of cave Kenny described. It’s possible the M-Cave story became larger than life to build mystery and intrigue. As for the “control squads,” I totally get where you’re coming from. I’m committed to exploring this story honestly, without being influenced by outside pressures. Your insights are valuable, and I’d love for you to stay connected with this journey as we keep uncovering more layers. Who knows-maybe there’s a chance to collaborate or share more thoughts along the way! Thanks again for keeping the conversation real and thoughtful.

[@DJMoore-001]

@@DrivenXAdventure Susan is a very nice person. We talk a lot and go over things. She is also why I stopped making videos about Kenny. After I went there I knew he wasn't there. That is when I believed he was who left his phone by the mine, His phone was left on the plank wood pile just up and right of the mine. For the HLN special it was placed on the mine. The change I am not sure about. But Jay Silverheels added a quarter when he was there. I couldn't push agendas trying to make it sound like he is out there when I didn't believe that. It takes to long to build your credibility, But it takes no time to ruin it. People on the net might not know me. But anyone that has been around me for years on here know that I try and keep it honest, Or show what I have found. To show why I think what I do. Sheyron is as entirely different rabbit hole in her own right. When I looked into her, Everything came back shady as Ray does. I did a few videos asking why the family never once asked for any help in finding Kenny. I showed examples of other families asking, Pleading for help. But I could not find anything. Susan sent me the link to Vicky asking one time. But she wasn't what I would call upset. Same with everything I have seen with Sheyron. Always happy plays the sad ex for a minute then comes right back smiling and happy. Kenny use to make some really good hiking/Minimalist videos. Then his comment blew up and he got called out. I think he had been out in the canyon before, He knew there tons of M shapes out there, So he thought he could and Nellis Air Force Base, Everyone knows Ellis and 51 are hand in hand. So there is the hook of the story. Who doesn't think of Aliens, Test the bomb, A little Hills have Eye's feeling when You see it. My Opinion is the M cave was the hook. Break down his comment he left. There is a lot in that comment people miss. I think you hit the nail on head when you stated in a video, There are people that are here to help keep the focus on the range, The range is the projected focal point to look, Throw the cave in and people are sucked into the story. Either to find Kenny or the cave. But if you listen to what is said and not watch their videos you can pick out all the crap. At this point other than the base story line, It is all Coffeehouse crap that is made up. Sorry that is so long. I think you are setting this up great. I hope this gets closed and the Kenny story goes away.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@DJMoore-001 Appreciate all the depth you’ve added here! It’s clear how much thought you’ve put into understanding the story, from the cave theories to the different perspectives surrounding Kenny’s journey. As I mentioned before, if it wasn't for some of the nasty comments I received, I would have just moved on from this Rabbit Hole, but thanks to those who pretty much told me I was wrong, I had to really watched the M-Cave Hike and all of his other videos and I start to see the truth. I agree that the story has captivated so many because it draws on all those eerie, remote vibes-and the M Cave itself has kept its own pull. I’m planning one last trip up to Joe May Canyon to close the BS of the M-Cave, and from there, it might be time to explore the possibilities of where he could really be. Stick around, it’s only getting more interesting!

[@Raygilley10]

No, I don’t believe his story. The phone was a symbol for time. The change was the symbol for change, put that together and you have it was time for a change in his life and remember he said that he does it his way.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Raygilley10 Interesting take! I love hearing different interpretations like this. The symbolism you pointed out makes sense, especially when you piece it together with what he said about doing things his way. It definitely opens up more possibilities for what he might have meant. These stories can be so layered, and everyone's perspective adds something new. Thanks for sharing your insight-this is exactly the kind of conversation I love to have here! Hope to see you on more Adventures!

[@trulya6526]

5:08 You don't know why people are so interested and stuck on the M-cave theory? It's because Kenny had no reason to lie about what he had seen, and the fact that he actually went missing shortly afterwards while re-searching for it adds another layer of mystery to this case. We don't know the full story, but assuming Kenny was lying was quite disrespectful. Stop having a chip on your shoulder and acting like you know any better than anyone else about this case, and certainly don't speak for Kenny.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@trulya6526 Thanks for your comment! I appreciate your thoughts on the M-Cave theory, and I completely understand why it’s such an intriguing part of the story. However, if you haven’t seen my video where I recorded someone who strongly resembled Kenny, it might help clarify where I’m coming from. In this video, I explore the possibility that the person I encountered could be Kenny. I’m not claiming to know everything, but I’m trying to present what I’ve personally experienced and the evidence I’ve gathered. I’m just as invested in uncovering the truth as anyone else, and I’m open to all perspectives! Nobody knows who Kenny is other than what you have seen from his videos and that doesn't tell you who he is. The only people that know Kenny is his family, are you his family and if you are. Why don't you share some information?

[@jin1063]

Love the channel and really enjoyed this video! I agree with you, he has a new life somewhere else, now. Kudos on the Sleestak reference!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@jin1063 Thanks so much! I’m really glad you’re enjoying the channel and this video. It’s definitely possible that Kenny started a new life somewhere, and I’m still following every lead to get closer to the truth. LOL, glad you caught the Sleestak reference-it’s always fun to throw in a little something for fellow Gen X! Appreciate your support, and I hope you stick around for more adventures!

[@Dialogando_con_Urantia]

Main Characteristics of the “M”-Shaped Cave - **Unique Shape:** The defining feature of this cave is its distinctive entrance, which resembles a capital “M.” This characteristic sets it apart from other caves in the area. - **Size:** The cave is approximately the height of an adult person and relatively narrow. Imagine an opening you can walk through, but not spacious or wide. - **Mountain Location:** The cave is located on the side of a mountain-neither at the top nor in the valley. It appears “embedded” into the mountain’s slope, ruling out high or low areas in your search. - **Depth and Darkness:** Described as “deep and dark,” the cave has an interior that extends far into the mountain and lacks natural light. It is not just a shallow hole. - **Rocky Environment:** The surrounding terrain is rocky, with no marked trails or paths. The area includes narrow canyons, cliffs, and multiple small caves, but none share the distinct “M” shape. - **Ground-Level Entrance:** The cave entrance is at ground level within the canyon. You won’t need to climb to access it. - **Specific Location:** The cave lies at the bottom of a narrow canyon, which becomes increasingly confined and cliffed as you descend. It is situated on the opposite side of a mountain the hiker crosses, in a flat area leading to the desert. --- ### Additional Keys and Insights for Identification - **Focus on the “M” Shape:** Many small caves exist in the area, but the unique “M” shape makes this one distinct. Pay close attention to the entrance’s form. - **Narrow Canyon Proximity:** The cave is near a part of the canyon where the walls narrow significantly. If you encounter cliffs that require descending, you’re likely close. - **End-of-Route Location:** The cave is not at the beginning of the route or at a mountain’s summit. It is found after navigating through several canyons, mountains, and cliffs. - **Towards the Desert:** After descending the mountain, the route opens into a flat, desert-like area. The cave is located here, at the canyon’s end and near the desert. --- ### Additional Guidance for the Quest - **Trace the Hiker’s Route:** The hiker’s journey includes crossing one mountain, descending into a canyon, climbing and crossing another mountain, and finally descending through a progressively narrowing canyon to the area where the cave is located. - **Exploration Required:** Despite a clear idea of where to search, the hiker did not locate the cave in the video. Thorough exploration of the area is necessary, even if you believe you’ve reached the right spot. - **Remote and Rugged Terrain:** The cave is in a remote, roadless area without trails or markers. Be prepared for a challenging exploration in a natural, untouched environment. - **Look for Ground-Level Access:** The cave’s entrance is in a flat section of the narrow canyon, at ground level. By keeping these tips and details in mind, you’ll be better equipped to identify the “M”-shaped cave and distinguish it from others in the region. Good luck, and stay vigilant during your search!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@LeninLinares007 very detailed, I will definitely use these tips on my next Adventure back into those mountains. I have some new coordinates to search along with the so-called m cave cover up. Thanks for this and thanks for going on this Adventure, hope to see you on more!

[@knightmaremedia7795]

I think he self deleted. Leaves his phone behind in the spot it was found but takes his firearm ... Combine that with his struggles with repeated failures of his inventions, history with depression and being short on funds.. Idk to me ; it makes the most logical sense, albeit extremely sad. Your theory is entirely plausible as well. Either way; he needs found. So like I always say; lots of love and respect for all that goes out there looking for him, no matter what they believe personally. We all agree on 1 thing: Kenny needs to be found and brought home

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@knightmaremedia7795 Great insights, you’ve really considered the possibilities here. Kenny’s story is full of twists, and just when it seems we’re close to an answer, more questions arise. There’s definitely more to uncover, and I think some of the upcoming clues might surprise you. Stick around-I have a feeling this mystery is far from over! Thanks for going on this Adventure!

[@strongereveryday2302]

He will never, ever be found.

[@325-k9k]

Someone broke into his sisters building knew exactly where the iPad was with a hurt knee.

[@jefcla1172]

Two "vanished" comments already. You are about to find out what starts happening when you post certain keywords like you have about this case/location. Ask Sean.

[@dominicfounds6076]

I can’t prove you wrong. But I honestly think Kenny found a cave that looked like a M. Tries to venture back to it. But then becomes overwhelmed by the hike and dies. To keep it simple. I think Kenny was water a food deprived on his discovery hike of the M cave. (It’s also stated that he bragged about how little food and water he took with him on his hikes.) I believe a combination of being dehydrated hungry, tired, and the illusions from shadows of rocks, made Kenny believe he found a M cave. As he approached is he experience tremors from being extremely dehydrated. Explaining the shaking, he felt. and in the end, I believe he ventured to find something that wasn’t actually there and pushed himself beyond the point of exhaustion to find something that he believed to be there, but that actually wasn’t. Hiking is a dangerous game if not done correctly.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@dominicfounds6076 I would support this theory 100% if it was true. The person I saw in the desert a few months ago, I believe was KV and that is the only reason I went down this Rabbit Hole in the first place. I have to see it to believe it, if I never see it than it's not real. I too am a long-distance hiker, climber, and backpacker and been doing this for over 45 years and still going. Out of all the place I've been and seen over the years, never have I had anything like his story ever happen. Once you understand your body and mind, you know your limitations to stay out of harm's way and or dangerous situations. The now called M-Cave Hike is a hard hike, and it does take a lot out of a person that is for sure, but this hike regarding dangerous situations is limited, is it dangerous? Yes, only if you put yourself into those situations. I hope you stick with me as I will blow the cover off this mystery of KV and the ex who plotted this entire elaborate story.

[@hotdognoodlewater1984]

I hope that Kenny is found more so for his family than anything. I have an open mind, but I think that your theory is the most plausible. I like the other videos people have posted. Mainly, I like them because I like to hike as well and that is a region I'd love to explore some day. I live in Nebraska. So, the chances of that are slim. So, I love that you can live vicariously through other explorers.

[@susanveach9013]

@hotdognoodlewater1984 Thank you for the sentiments but I feel the family is at peace now. Kenny told family members repeatedly that he could disappear and no one could find him, after he disappeared they took him.at his word and never reached out to law enforcement or SAR. After seeing the cctv footage I have heard that Kenny and his daughter reconnected. The family had a chance to go to law enforcement and either tell them thay was Kenny, or refute it...they did neither so they have proven to Kenny they will keep his secret!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@hotdognoodlewater1984 Thanks for going on this Adventure! Glad the videos bring a bit of the desert to you in Nebraska! Stick around, there's definitely more to uncover in this mystery, and I look forward to sharing more of the Adventure with you!

[@BreezyGirl]

@@susanveach9013 Arent you the sister in law ? So, you would know if this was the case for sure ? Or, am I just even more confused at this late hour..... :(

[@susanveach9013]

​@@BreezyGirlHis daughter knew when he disappeared he wasn't dead because he had told them he could disappear and no one could find him. After she saw him on the cctv footage she knew for sure he was alive. No one from the family searched for him even once in the 7 years before the cctv was found

[@magentaangel5531]

Maybe Sheyron knows what Kenny had planned to do and covered for him with the suicide bs to throw people off the scent of him disappearing and starting his life his way.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@magentaangel5531 BAM! 👍

[@OdySlim]

I agree with you about him not being here. What you said makes sense.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@OdySlim Thanks for sharing your thoughts! There are definitely a lot of clues that seem to point in the direction outside of this canyon. I believe everyone one is so hyped about this M-Cave being real and they hope to be the one to discover something that doesn't exist. Appreciate you watching, and I hope you’ll stay tuned as we dig even deeper into the mystery!

[@OdySlim]

@@DrivenXAdventure Thanks for the reply, I believe you nailed it. See you on the next one.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@OdySlim Thank you so much for your kind words! Honestly, if it wasn’t for you and many others who have subscribed to my channel, I wouldn’t be doing this. Your support means the world to me, and it keeps me motivated to explore and share these adventures. Looking forward to seeing you on the next one-let’s keep discovering together!

[@BreezyGirl]

New sub here, I enjoy your videos. I have been down this rabbit hole for years and I will stay in it until he is found.. or not

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@BreezyGirl Welcome aboard! 🛻 It’s great to have you here on this wild adventure. The Kenny Veach mystery has a way of pulling people in, doesn’t it? I’ve been down that same rabbit hole myself, and my recent encounter in the desert has only deepened the intrigue. If you haven’t already, check out my video “Kenny Veach Found Almost 10 Years in the Nevada Desert?” and let me know your thoughts. Together, we’ll keep digging into this mystery and exploring the unknown. There are plenty more adventures and rabbit holes ahead-stay tuned! 🗺️

[@codymckay252]

You were looking right at it it looks small on the outside but when you go in it opens up

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@codymckay252 I think you're referring to the one next to the mcave cover up, correct?

[@joshuatichota5046]

Okay so here's one thing I have noticed from Kenny's video where he was talking about that M cave (just go with me on this), has anyone else ever noticed that the structure he was next to (the one where they later found his phone), from certain angles looks like a capital M? And that could have either been a clue or a diversion? I'm not an expert on any cases but I did notice that from certain angles that mine shaft could look like a capital M. Am I an expert? Gosh no, just someone who noticed what not a lot of others seemed to have mentioned in the comments. But anyway have a good cup of coffee or tea or whatever, and like me enjoy hearing different things about this "mysterious disappearing" also I will add this, is it possible that when he went back to look for that M cave that he might have gotten caught in a flashflood

[@joshuatichota5046]

Also no need to hate so please be respectful, like I said I ain't a detective or an expert on this stuff.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@joshuatichota5046 I have to say, I’ve never thought of it like that before! The idea that the mine shaft could resemble a capital M from certain angles is definitely worth considering whether it could have been a subtle clue or even a coincidence that adds to the mystery. As for the flash flood theory, that’s entirely possible, given how unpredictable the desert can be. It’s those “what ifs” that keep this mystery so alive and compelling. Thanks for sharing and No Hate here as if it wasn't for you for going on these Adventures, you wouldn't be seeing this video. Thank you! Also, it’s details like these that really add to the conversation. Grab that Whiskey, Beer or a cup of coffee which ever you prefer, and let’s keep exploring these ideas together. I’m glad you’re here for the journey! Depending on how I'm feeling, I'm a Whiskey drinker and not JD, the real good stuff.

[@miapup1012]

The gravel is a grind on the legs but you’re doing good. I watch Desert Drifter and he’s quite knowledgeable. I also enjoy desert videos because I can’t walk like that anymore.😢

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@miapup1012 Thank you, got to keep those legs moving as we get older, and he has some great knowledgeable videos that's for sure. I watch him too. I hope you enjoyed the Adventure and hope to see you on more!

[@paulbarela]

Kenny was a quieter 😂

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@paulbarela I believe he was, he ran from his problems instead of taking them on headfirst.

[@paulbarela]

@ your the only one so far say it how it really is with this story of KV . Keep the videos 👍

[@DrivenXAdventure]

Thank you

[@TurboTyler]

It's not illegal to go missing.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@TurboTyler Uh, but it is when you falsely file a police report about a missing person who went out to commit su$c$de this is misleading police and search and rescue on a wild goose hunt.

[@SometimesTurtle]

@@DrivenXAdventure I doubt he went out to commit suicide, but I will reserve that to an extent, as to protect the man himself, as if too many people realize that he most likely just wanted to disconnect from society, to be free without needing wordly things to create/live, then he would probably end up found lol. Leave the man alone if you find him people...but I truly doubt it was suicide.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@SometimesTurtle I respect what you say, but at the same time I went down this rabbit hole because of when I encountered him in the middle of nowhere and when I reached out to his family, nobody wanted anythign to do with this. which was odd than I got very nasty comments which than lite a fire under me to now find the truth. So I hope your open to find out the truth and uncovering the mystery behind this.

[@idgybaby3480]

​@@DrivenXAdventureI've followed this story only a little. You said after you saw him in the desert, his family wanted morning to do with the evidence you found. I find that very odd too. If you had to speculate, why do you think his family wanted nothing to do with what you found?

[@slickwillie3376]

I agree. Kenny seems to be lying in his video, and laughs when he describes the vibration. Maybe that is duping delight.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@slickwillie3376 Thanks for sharing your comment! There’s something about Kenny’s expressions that raises questions, and your observation about ‘duping delight’ is a really interesting angle. I’ll be revealing more soon, including a twist that could truly surprise those following the mystery. Stay tuned-this journey might take an unexpected turn!

[@hottiekarotti7]

​@@DrivenXAdventurereally excited for new infos. This case is so interesting

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@hottiekarotti7 Working on getting the truth and facts together and thank you for going on this Adventure!

[@MorbinNecrim86]

And then it turns out he's been living in a hidden apartment in his house

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@MorbinNecrim86 LOL and you could be right, as that is what he wanted.

[@Riddler7676]

I believe your theories are spot on they just lack proof! But i do believe you are right on!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@p.k.5455 Thank you for going on this Adventure. Check out The Hiddend Truth: New Evidence in the Kenny Veach Mystery and let me know what you think. I know too much editing in the begging of the video.

[@juanitashroll6804]

I totally agree with you we have always thought he staged his disappearance I really think you spotted him allready love your videos 👽

[@DrivenXAdventure]

Thank you so much, @juanitashroll6804! I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the videos and that we’re on the same page about the possibility of a staged disappearance. It’s a theory I’m definitely digging into further, and every new perspective helps. I’d love to have you along for this journey as we keep exploring! 👽 Appreciate the support!

[@strongereveryday2302]

He will never be found. No one will ever know what happened and everyone should just give up.

[@bungeycord5971]

That area experiences seismic activity and did have that going on around the time he filmed that. That could explain the strange vibrations. The M looking cave he probably saw on one of his many trips exploring and tied the two together for the story.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@bungeycord5971 Thanks for your comment - interesting take-I’ve heard similar thoughts about the vibrations possibly being linked to seismic activity. It’s true that the mind can weave connections in places like this, especially after so many explorations. But knowing Kenny’s adventurous spirit, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s more to the story. There are definitely some layers left to peel back, so stay tuned as we keep digging into this mystery! Thanks for going on this Adventure!

[@bungeycord5971]

@@DrivenXAdventureIf you want to reach out to Susan Veach she can be found sometimes commenting on Warlike Wraths channel.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@bungeycord5971 Thank you, I've been in contact with Susan

[@59thSurvivor-of-VHS]

I enjoy your information and investigative style Broski Keep on Huntin' Your facts are real, this case has too much speculation. It all reminds me of a real life David Lynch Twin Peaks Episode that many different people have merged paths in. This guy you have clipped here, LOL 14:48 "Not a normal piece of the landscape." & Not a Geologist LOL He does the Seinfeld Nose pick as well LOL

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@59thSurvivor-of-VHS Thanks for the support, This whole case has so many twists and turns, and it’s been fascinating to piece it all together. That moment at 14:48 definitely stood out-sometimes it’s those little things that catch you off guard. Thanks for watching!

[@59thSurvivor-of-VHS]

@@DrivenXAdventure I spent several hours binge watching all that I could on this topic yesterday from an array of Ytubers, your videos got me thinking the most. I keep thinking about how people talk about the phone, but not the lose change perhaps that had some meaning as if to reference his economic hardships, and then leaving the phone as a sign of giving up on help from others. All placed there to tie into the story further. The phone and coins were both placed there on purpose. Another thing I am not certain on is how he left his Camera and goods at the house on the final trip, But did he have the gun or was it left there as well? The gun is a smoking barrel literally in this. Thank you for your time and effort you have spent on this, I know Ytube can be very time consuming I only run shorts and struggle keeping up with those lol Thank you Broski!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ actually @Raygillie10 had a great theory and that the change was left behind, because Kenny wanted change in his life and that was the symbol for that he was making a change and phone was he was living everyone behind to make a change.

[@coolbreezesl]

You are correct, the guy staged his own disappearance.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@coolbreezesl this adventure is far from over, and I'm glad you're on it with me!

[@chriscunningham5150]

I believe the whole m cave and location is just a distraction from the area he is really living off the grid somewhere else. I found it weird in Kenny’s video when he said the cave was shaped like an m. His camera was looking at a small hole in the rock shaped like an m. And I think he was just riffing making the whole thing up while hiking and filming. Knowing he wanted to disappear. But he’s out there somewhere alive living. There is a video of him breaking into his sister in laws store I believe. It looks just like him. And who else would burglarize a store? Someone who is on the run and off grid. So I believe he’s out in the desert somewhere. Could be even a different state. But I feel when he’s ready to be found. He will be found.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@chriscunningham5150 You are so right about when he ready to be found he will be found. Did you by chance watch my video, when I found him in the middle of the desert hiking?

[@jeffreymorgan8044]

I think you did find him. He probably did a 180 from that afterwards

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@jeffreymorgan8044 he so did a 180 and now he is staying low, they both are.

[@chriscunningham5150]

@@DrivenXAdventure I did see the video and the guy sounded exactly like Kenny. I compared the voices and I about shit my pants when I heard how similar the two were. And even the image in the rear view mirror looked just like him. I’m going to be honest going into watching your video I didn’t expect the title to be true. But after watching I’m on the side of thinking that was him. If it wasn’t him that was a huge coincidence. But I don’t really believe in coincidences. And the person who commented it was him and he is 23. Don’t believe it. But you talked to him and seen him. And by your title I think you believe it’s him. And after watching. I think it’s him too. The guy loves to hike so seeing him out hiking about 100 miles away from his spot doesn’t surprise me.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@chriscunningham5150 Thank you for your support and it means a lot that you took the time and compared. I went into that encounter with an open mind, and what I saw and heard definitely left me thinking. Whether it was Kenny or not, it raises a lot of questions worth exploring. I’ll keep digging into this mystery, and I’d love to hear more of your thoughts as we uncover more pieces of the puzzle!

[@murk1352]

I think you’re right, but he’s not off living in the wild. He might spend a majority of his life out there, but he goes in society, to stores & shit like that. He might only go once every two weeks, or once a month, but he’s around.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@murk1352 You are so right about that, and that is why I ran into him that day I went out exploring in the middle of nowhere. It was hot, nobody around for at least a hundred miles, who's going to see me out here? BAM! Me, and I know, as I mentioned to you on a previous comment, I was still trying to figure who, where, or why I know that face and voice from. Thanks for going on this Adventure and hope you continue to explore more with us.

[@murk1352]

@ Yeah, I’d really like to know what happened. His sister said he hurt his left knee, but when you watch the video of (supposedly him) in her store, he’s holding his right knee? Definitely looked like him on the video, that’s the only thing that makes me think he did this on purpose. No one breaks into a place to steal an iPad & he knew exactly where it was & it’s his sisters place….? Nah, too many coincidences.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@murk1352 Think about this, who in their right mind would break into an Enchanted Forest Reiki Center to steal crystals, oh wait, he didn't steal crystals, he stole an iPad on his way out. You and I are on the right track.

[@Ernie.E1960]

Nice video. I would love to go up into this trail. Maybe camp out a couple of days. Maybe we might meet up with each other one day out there.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Ernie.E1960 Thanks for comment and for going on this Adventure! It's definitely a must do if you're a backpacker or even a day hiker and who knows, maybe we will cross paths out there one day! Stay tuned for more adventures and mysteries, there's always something new to discover.

[@exsxpx1]

It would be funny if someone left a cardboard cut-out of kenny on the trail.😂

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@exsxpx1 LOL I think I might need to do this and have him standing infront of the m cave cover up, for anyone that makes it up there to take a selfie with Kenny! Brilliant! Thank you for this Awesome comment and suggestion and for going on this Adventure!

[@67giacomo]

If he was hiding out in that cannon area.Wouldnt he need someone to bring him supplies every once in a while .I don’t think he could make it out there on his own with no help at all.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@67giacomo You are so correct, it's a harsh environment, and supplies will only last for so long. I believe Kenny isn't up there, he is completly somewhere else. This m cave was just a deversion to keep people off his trail and the ex to play off that it was a suicide so that the police wouldn't spend to much resource to go looking for him.

[@therange4033]

Greetings from across the pond! I enjoyed this video. You say what you think. The USA is an amazing country. I've been to LA but would love to see the real US. Kenny is an enigma. Almost like a child in a mans body. I don't think he belongs in this harsh world so has made a short, sharp exit. However he did it.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@therange4033 Greetings from the US and thank you for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate your thoughtful insight. Kenny’s story is definitely an enigma, and there’s something almost timeless about his nature that keeps people captivated. I'm still actively investigating and working to ensure we have all the facts before revealing more about his possible whereabouts. Stay tuned, as there’s more to come, and I’m committed to sharing accurate information as soon as we can. Thanks again, and I hope you get to see more of the 'real' US someday as it's truly an amazing place and hereabouts are you across the pond as I'm sure you have some amazing places to visit?

[@davidrussell3890]

I think you are spot on. Kenny wanted to vanish.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@davidrussell3890 Thank you! This might be just one piece of the puzzle, but there are plenty of other mysteries waiting to be uncovered.

[@Yonder-s6p]

I've been thinking a lot about the m cave trying to uncover find any loose end any anything out of the ordinary the one thing that I have not been able to see or find is somebody looking beyond The Rock's trying to see if there is anything behind them or if there is an opening because there is no doubt that those rocks were placed there the coloring the connection about how the rocks from the left side where it shows new terraforming signs and how the rocks fit together like puzzle pieces maybe one day somehow crowbar and try to pry a couple of the rocks especially the spherical one below the left side of the side of the wall how it looks like it's a weak point and how it fell and how it was propped up but there is no doubt that it was not Kenny's doing he wouldn't have been able to move those heavy ass rocks unbreak them away from the wall on the left side so if there's any chance of going up there in being able to discover if it is actually a cave or if there is really anything behind it I think it would be worthwhile and very interesting

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ I will be going back out there with a snake camera and we will see what’s and for all and but that m cave cover up to rest

[@cplath1]

Thats interesting... I think 75.24% he left to avoid life responsibilities.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@cplath1 Avoiding responsibilities is one possibility, but I think there’s more to the story that hasn’t been uncovered yet. Stick around, there are plenty more adventures ahead, and I appreciate you coming along on this one!

[@Quemircontramiméfracassado777]

I think Kenny made up this "M cave" story because many hikers who went looking for Kenny had never seen a cave like the one he talked about in his video looking for the cave. Kenny said it was a large cave almost as tall as him, deep, dark and narrow. Well, many hikers who know the area very well have never seen caves like this. Usually the caves are very small, and not like the one he reported. So, Kenny just made up this story to disappear, because that way, people wouldn't just be focused on solving his disappearance, but on this cave he invented! So it's easy for him to disappear. That's why!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ASabedoria777 Why can't everyone see what you see! You hit the nail on the head and that is why the ex has intentionally misled people and the investigators to protect a larger truth, possible about Kenny's reasons for disappearing and that is why she declared him dead or committed suicide which will shut down most follow up inquiries.

[@Quemircontramiméfracassado777]

​@@DrivenXAdventureAnother thing that leaves a lot of doubt is about that user called "Lemi Killmister" who warned Kenny not to enter the supposed cave... That's the only thing that leaves the aspect doubtful...

[@Quemircontramiméfracassado777]

​​@@DrivenXAdventureAnd it could be that Kenny didn't really disappear. I think he just made up this story and faked his disappearance. Or maybe not. Because, as I said, people sometimes go up to start a new journey. And since Kenny probably knows how to survive in the desert, I think he could still be there today. Or he simply disappeared from the place where he lived, hung out, etc. So, Kenny saw the advantage of telling stories that would keep people guessing, so that they would focus too much on the story and then run away. That's why no one knows where Kenny is, because they may have looked in just a small area of ​​the desert, and not the whole desert! So it could be that they only explored a corner of the desert, and not the whole area, you know? So it's VERY easy for Kenny to disappear so easily..

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@Quemircontramiméfracassado777 You could be right, the Mojave Desert and the Nevada Desert is enormous. To be honest, we only know what he told us, and what his ex tells us. There are only I believe two videos that he tells us that he goes on these long hikes and only shows one actual hike that he did, The M Cave Hike, I'm not discrediting him, but we really don't know if he really did long distance hiking. Please understand that this is my opinion as I didn't even know this guy and I would say about 99.99% didn't know him either other than family. He has moved on from Nevada as he blew his cover when I discovered him a few months ago hiking out in the middle of nowhere and put him on video and that is the only reason I've gone down this Rabbit Hole.

[@Quemircontramiméfracassado777]

​@@DrivenXAdventureNo man, I'm not disbelieving in what Kenny or his girlfriend say, I, like you said at the end "Please, this is my opinion" and I repeat the same! This is my idea, and I'm free to think! I don't want to be stuck on one thing. Because even though Kenny and his girlfriend are saying all this, I honestly don't believe 100%. There might be something wrong... But then again, I don't know anything either, because I'm a person from Brazil analyzing the things that happen abroad, so there's no way I can be 100% right in what I'm saying, I'm just leaving my opinion and what I know. Got it? I know it's your opinion, okay... But in my opinion, there's something wrong... Even though I don't know 100% of the things that happen there. Anyway, God bless you, man!

[@BarbMcmanus-gb3zc]

After watching Kenny's videos I truly believe he wasn't mentally stable, the theory of him committing suicide is very plausible. He was very familiar with that area so he probably knew of the most desolate and isolated spots where he could end his life and not be found. I believe that his remains will eventually be found.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@BarbMcmanus-gb3zc You make a compelling point, and it's something that many have considered. Kenny’s deep knowledge of the area and his complex personality do align with that theory. The isolation out there is no joke-it could easily conceal someone for years. I’ll keep investigating every angle to see what more we can uncover. Appreciate you being part of this journey-there’s still more to find out!

[@LordHeisinger]

There are some different paths to go. I do agree Kenny is alive. To truly debunk the M cave, I would like to see some people remove some of that rock in the front. Sean said he could see it goes back there from a hole between the rocks. I would like to see it with my eyes.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@LordHeisinger I've been reconsidering to go back up there as I have a small worm pipe camera that will fit in those holes, as I was up there, and I mentioned it on camera just didn't put on the video as that was one of the parts that I should have left in the video. What do you think, as I don't want to deface public land as that a crime and the safe way would be to put this worm camera into the holes.

[@LordHeisinger]

@@DrivenXAdventure I agree, if there are other options before tearing down some of that rock, to do it first. If it was indeed a covered up cave, then i'm not opposed to tearing any rock down. If it is natural, then leave it alone, because that being the M cave is now debunked at that point.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@LordHeisinger I plan on being very meticulous when I go up there to uncover this m cave coverup

[@ZPTV831]

You are not the first to hear voices right there where your standing ive seen at least 2 other separate youtubes who randomly walk this same area and notice voices but never find nobody…. Wierd maybe someplace around there… i like to believe we are looking in the wrong place remember kenny also said he couldn’t find it… so it’s obviously not going to mysteriously appear where he confirmed its not there…. It gotta be another area near by….

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ZPTV831 That’s a really good point. It’s strange how others have had similar experiences hearing voices in that area, and yet no one can find anyone. It does make you wonder if we’re looking in the wrong spot, especially with Kenny’s own statement about not being able to find it. It could definitely be a nearby area that we haven’t explored enough. I’ll keep that in mind and continue looking at different locations. Appreciate you sharing your insight-sometimes the answers are in the places we least expect!

[@kdiigx]

I like the mythos of the “M-Cave”. Is it real? Probably not. I’ve watched many of these videos. I hate the over dramatic, nonsense. I hope the idea lives on and I hope it gives people a reason to go out and hike.

[@Arthur-cn4qw]

That cave on 9:51 looks like a gigantous pair of eyes.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Arthur-cn4qw LOL Thanks for going on this Adventure and great catch! I was going to photoshop a stone monster face with the eyes blending in the background.

[@andrewb5842]

It's such a beautiful area. Wish I could visit one day. Very far from me tho sadly

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@andrewb5842 You are right, that this place is amazing. I meet someone from the UK up there hiking and he will be visiting the US for a few months, so if he can do it, so can you, I'm just saying. Unless your completely unable too?

[@CCaddy]

..yes correct. No M Cave. ...and people that moved rock at that one location are so gullible.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@CCaddy Thanks for going on this Adventure and I appreciate your comment as I agree with you 100% There is no reason to go up there and start destroying or moving any landmarks or formations if rocks for the sake of a video to try and prove something that doesn't exist. Hope to see you on more Adventures and the uncovering of the whereabouts of Kenny.

[@texastyphun]

I would advise that you don't discard the body vibrations/ bad vibes. All sorts of strangeness in the Desert.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@texastyphun never as the desert holds more mysteries and unusual events. Thanks for going on this adventure.

[@Wayne-w2r]

I dont know about the M cave but u did an aftrenoon stroll mate .thats all five hours & your knackered. Wot is that.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Wayne-w2r Thanks for the comment! I hear you, five hours might not seem like much, but trust me, the terrain out there can take it out of you quickly, especially when you’re focused on filming, navigating, and staying safe. That said, I’m always working to push myself further with each trip. Stick around-there’s plenty more adventures to come, and who knows? Maybe next time it’ll be a full day out there!

[@gooni3games642]

What about those two caves right before the "So called M cave Cover up" One has a slight resemblence of an M at the right angle. I think your on the right path sir. Appreciate your work, time.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@gooni3games642 "Thanks for the support and for pointing that out! I did check out those two caves you're referring to. While one did have a slight resemblance to an 'M' from a certain angle, both were fairly shallow and didn't seem to match the description of the true M-Cave. I cut four in half hours of footage to keep the video focused and engaging, but I appreciate you noticing the details! I’m definitely committed to finding more clues and getting to the bottom of this mystery. Like a I mention in the video, there is no Kenny up there, this is a great hiking trail and that will be my last time going up there, unless some evidence of some sort is found up in around those mountains, if something is found, that would mean somebody planted it there. Stay tuned-there’s a lot more to come on this adventure!

[@Wood.Architect]

Why didn’t you send a borescope into the cracks? I mean if you’re going to go all the way out there and get people excited, might as well

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Wood.Architect Thanks for going on this Adventure and I completely understand what you mean, that will be coming out soon as I'm still working on other things in the meantime.

[@lonewolf1401]

Why carry a gun if your not worried about nothing?

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@lonewolf1401 Thanks for this great comment, and that's a fair point! For me, carrying a gun is just about being prepared for the unexpected, especially when exploring remote places. It's not necessarily about fear, it's about having a tool that might come in handy if a situation arises. Better safe than sorry out there! Hope to see you in furture videos, as there is plenty of Adventures to explore and uncover!

[@jackpepperdine8756]

Kenny said he was going on a three day hike some 40 miles in and 26 miles from Nellis Airforce Base.you only hiked 5 miles.the only way to prove this is bullshit is to hike another 30 to 35 miles

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@jackpepperdine8756 Oh, before I get started, Nellis AFB is back towards the east and north of Las Vegas. The only mountain over there is Frenchman Mountain and he never talks about those mountains in his videos. You need to look at a map Corn Creek, Nevada and look for Joe May Canyon and Black Gate Canyon to get a better understanding of the terrain and location of where he would go hiking. Also, the distance that everything is when you are talking about AFB, because the only base that is remotely close is Creech AFB, we are nowhere near it. Right, there is already BS when everyone talks about, areas like 51 and gov facilities. The only facility is Desert National Wildlife Range and Refuge. That's it! I've Hiked this mountain a few times in both directions. It's not for the weak, that's for sure, and you must be a seasonal hiker not a person that say "I Hike" that's not going to cut it. The continue uphill climb and the loose grave along with sand beneath your feet make a challenging hike, and your first mile will either break you or make you. Kenny has never recorded a three-day 40-mile hike, it's only what he says on video. Unless there something more about you and Kenny that you're not sharing, then you should be able to answers these questions: When did you hike this trail? How long did it take you? How do you know he hiked long distance? Where did he go when he hiked long distances? How Long would he hike before he stopped and set up camp? Why did a 10-mile hike wipe him out? Why doesn't he remember how far this hike was, if he did so many times? Why does he need to look at a map? What month did he record his video? What time did he start his hike? What time did he finish his hike?

[@richardwarnock2789]

You need the vehicle report that part of the story is missing

[@SHORTYVAL86]

I think Kenny Veach, may have went on a hike the day that he disappeared, I don’t think he went into this “M” cave though. I think Kenny Veach went on a hike, found a cave and went into it, the way he’d say when he found a cave he’d go into them. Well, I think he went in to explore started climbing and hiking in it and got stuck in a random ass curve of the cave and wasn’t able to get out. That’s why his bones or body has never been discovered. I know he’s sketch asf, but I don’t think he’s hiding and if he were and his girlfriend knew about it, don’t you think she’d break at some point 💁🏼‍♀️

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@SHORTYVAL86 I like you're thinking, and you never know. This mountain rage has been combed through by so many people, and I have to say that 95% of that mountain rage has been covered. You could be right; he might have found that one cave that nobody can or will fine. But this is me personally, when I ran into him a few months ago "Kenny Veach FOUND Almost 10 Years in the Nevada Desert? and that is the reason why I've gone done this rabbit hole in the first place. He's on the run and I have an idea where he is now, I'm still confirming and once I have solid information, I will be sharing with everyone that has been following this mystery. So, I hope you will stick with me on this and many more Adventures.

[@SHORTYVAL86]

@ ow wow, that’s interesting! I await the release of that video!!! Thanks for being amazing

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@SHORTYVAL86 Thank you!

[@paulrawcliffe8057]

I 100% agree with you. He's not out there lol. He's been spotted around here and their. Just another drop out in life.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@paulrawcliffe8057 Thanks for sharing your perspective! My goal with this video is to focus on the truth and avoid speculation, as there have been many stories and theories about Kenny Veach and the M-Cave. I believe there's more to the situation than what's been shared, and I’m committed to uncovering the facts rather than following unproven claims. If you have any additional information or insights, feel free to share. There’s so much more to explore, and I hope you stick around for future adventures as we dive deeper into this mystery!

[@Midnight-Cabinet]

Just discovered your channel today and I've watched only this video so far. There is some arrogance in your words, "he fooled everyone but me", dismissive of other hikers' strange experiences. Strange doesn't necessarily mean paranormal or magic. I agree with you that he likely staged his disappearance. I think he did see what looked like a cave in the shape of an M, though I am not convinced of its location - I don't think it was in Picture Canyon. Others have already pointed out a few M-shaped looking "caves" around the area. On top of Kenny and the M Cave mysteries, there have been a few other strange findings in the area. A crystal skull at the bottom of the vertical mineshaft, a sword and tent a bit north of the "covered up" cave, a random cache of supplies left near the vertical mine. Supposedly, another hiker went missing out there - "Eric the Hiker". The US military tried to take over the land where Kenny hiked AFTER he went missing there. That is something I want to talk about in a future video, imo it had more to do with the state of the world at the time - major events happened in 2014 - 2015. All that and more - why Kenny's not "presumed dead" 10 years after he's gone missing, why his channel is not deleted despite Google's Inactive Account policy update from May 2023.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Midnight-Cabinet Thanks for your comments and your feedback, much appreciate. Lot of valid points and still looking into everything about this and it seems you have some knowledge in regard to KV mystery. I can say that I'm not a person like most that have been following this for 5 to 10 years, as I just really got involved a few months ago when I think I found and recorded him. Let me know your thoughts once you watch all the rest, and thanks again.

[@Midnight-Cabinet]

@@DrivenXAdventure I'm looking forward to watching all the rest of your videos, I like your style and the places you visit. You make good points, and perhaps you are right that he wanted to dodge responsibilities so he chose to run away. We don't have any deserts in my country so I'm a sucker for content like this lol

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@@Midnight-Cabinet Thank you for being a part of my Adventures and I'm glad to have you along for the ride. We have some strange and unique places to go. I'm sure wherever you are, you have some real cool places to go see and explore.

[@thequackhouse4658]

You are definitely sure that he put on a hoax. I hope you are right.Because I don't know what else it could be. And there is evidence to show that he was running away from something. As SAR, we always try to not rule anything out. But it could be a shame if everyone stopped looking due to a video and missed evidence of where he really is. Keep up the great work, my friend.Great job

[@AllAboutAdventures]

Has anyone checked down the old mine shaft? Also, the way he said it made his body vibrate reminds me of an old episode of the x files.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@AllAboutAdventures For my understanding, Red Rock Search and Rescue did and I believe I don't know for sure; a KZbinr might have had gone down and explored the mine shaft. I can't say I ever watched the X Files, "Sorry" so I don't know the reference you're mentioning. But I do know that all what he says in his video is inconsistence about the M-Cave, just the whole hike alone doesn't make any sense. Everyone needs to read between the lines and think outside of the box! Thanks for watching and being part of this Adventure on uncovering the mystery of Kenny Veach!

[@DJMoore-001]

The mine shaft has been checked By a few, Red rock sent down cameras and found nothing. Scott Nuttall Climbed down the ladder and checked it. I think a few others went down, I just don't remember without going over everything I have on this.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@DJMoore-001 There has been so many people covering this content including myself and as I mentioned to you in a different comment, if it wasn't for that encounter that I had with that guy that I thought was Kenny "Who" knows it could possibly be Kenny! I wouldn't be going down this Rabbit Hole, this would never cross my mind! But here I am and now I think we all need to think outside the box instead of inside of this canyon where he wants us all to look.

[@DJMoore-001]

@@DrivenXAdventure I agree. Susan and I talk quite a bit. We bounce a lot of what she has around. I know one thing for sure, I don't believe he went missing nor is there a M cave.

[@DMContreras59]

I believe that's a huge possibility. They are probably helping him to stay hidden.

[@Justin1337Sane]

2:57 i don't know why but i see what looks like dinosaurs on the wall to the left

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Justin1337Sane I like your vision, I don't see what you see and what you might be seeing are Pictographs through this canyon as that is why it's called Picture Canyon. I hate to say that I'm color blind and these Pictographs that are in this canyon I won't see them as I don't see a lot of colors, red, green, brown, orange so if it's any of those colors and those color mixed together, well fogetaboutit!

[@sarahb.6475]

I cannot say if there is an M Cave or not. I guess in parts it could depend on the person and / or the angle they view a cave from? But even if there is a cave that sort of looks like a M from a certain angle it may not hold any answer. I believe that Kenny was an endurance hiker. He used to do very long multi day hikes. I have also heard on other channels that he could do crazy distances in a single day. Now that alone could explain the "vibrating" he had described. Because I often feel vibrating in my body too. But its not caused by any mtsterious cave. Its from doing lots of walking! Plus I have celiac. I think the feeling is linked to getting low on certain nutrition. Sometimes if I do a lot of walking and then stop for a moment I can feel it strong in my legs. Like inside the legs there is this vibrating feeling. But you are not shaking. Its an internal feeling in the legs. If I get exposed to gluten than I most defiently feel it. Mostly notice it at night if you lay down. I think it may be low iron or maybe B1. With all the hiking he does Kenny has probably experienced it. And maybe he thought it was a good story. If you read some comments on the "jab" reactions (the elephant in the room if you know what I mean) people also mention "internal vibrations". So the vibrations can be real. And I suspect he did feel them from all the hiking. Which leads to the question if he was getting all the nutrition he needed to fuel those hikes he did? Endurance athletes have higher requirements for lots of nutrition. They often have to supplement iron several times a week. Plus extra potassium, magnesium, etc. But lots of walking often takes the appetite away too. I do enjoy seeing the desert when people go out looking for him. But I have no idea if he is out there or not. It is getting lots of people to go hiking. Never seen a desert before. We dont have any here in the Midwest by Lake Michigan. ⛵ The desert landscape does make me curious. Would like to explore it but its SO far away plus I dont like the idea of possible big cats or snakes. But I can walk 14+ miles. At 52. 😊 I do like my long walks. And no joint pain. I eat lots of grass fed beef + saturated fat. But I have no idea what happened to him. Or if the cave is real somewhere or not. Since he apparently did such long hikes and the desert is apparently huge he could have been anywhere. And I do think things look different from different angles. Or maybe his "cave" was a shadow cast from some other structure and he mistook it for a cave? Or it was part cave + part shadow. I do not think those rocks right there is the "M cave". If it even exists. Hmmm... Low iron can make anxiety worse. It can make you sleepy. Make hair fall out. I think it can do other things too.. But a deficiency of something can explain that vibrating he mentioned. But no real opinion of where he is now.. Hmmm... I wonder if it can make you forgetful, as in walking off + leaving the phone? I cannot say if that was on purpose or an accident. People sometimes do forget things. Or they get distracted. Cannot say for sure.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@sarahb.6475 Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts and experiences! You’ve brought up some fascinating points about the vibrations Kenny described, it’s entirely possible they were tied to physical exertion or nutritional deficiencies rather than something mysterious. Your perspective as an avid walker adds valuable context, especially about how the body reacts to long hikes. As for the M-Cave, you’re right that it could be a mix of perception, lighting, or even imagination. The desert is a vast and challenging place to explore, and its beauty, along with its mysteries, keeps pulling people in. If you ever decide to visit, the desert landscape is breathtaking, but it's not all that you may think. So be careful and always be prepared as its key to whatever may be thrown your way, with the wildlife and or terrain. Thanks again for your insights, I appreciate you taking the time to comment! I hope you continue to join me, on more Adventures and mystery to uncover the truth!

[@SueGirling68]

Hi, it's obvious to me now that he just wanted out of the rat race as we call it, it was definitely him that broke into his families store but why ?? did he need to go get something that would prove the M-cave is a hoax ??? he was looking for something, maybe it was on that iPad ???. Thank you for thinking outside the box, it is so refreshing to have a different take on this whole M-cave story, much love. xx

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@SueGirlings68 Thank you for going on this Adventure and for your support! I believe there is way more to the mystery of Kenny Veach than the M cave. The M-Cave Hike was just a diversion, which has been working for those who believe there is another dimension up in that canyon. I hope you stick around, there are plenty more Adventures and mysteries ahead that I'd love to have you join me on!

[@Sjradventures]

I think it's a KZbin content topic that was created for continuous conversations and views. It's apparent it worked. His channel is still getting views. No need to make content. Just my opinion. Good video!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Sjradventures You are soooo Right about this. I had no idea how big this mystery was about Kenny Veach until I post the video "Kenny Veach Found Almost 10 Years in the Nevada Desert?" the comments got me really thinking, and I said ok, I'm going to go down this rabbit hole as this is only an hour from me, so why not! There are so many made up stories that get stretched or exaggerated, but my goal is to approach this case with honesty and curiosity, without adding to the speculation. I'm thinking outside of the box, where everyone else is staying inside the box, because of the whole M-Cave body vibrating story. It's all made up! Glad you enjoyed the video, and I hpe you stick around as we keep searching for the real answeres, see you on the next Adenture!

[@Sjradventures]

​@@DrivenXAdventureI'm definitely along for the ride!

[@donnarouse9432]

You are not wrong!

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@donnarouse9432 Thank you for your support!

[@jeffreymorgan8044]

He has to have a food source water shelter it is rotating from one place to another or he would be found or he is out of the country .Just a little theory

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@jeffreymorgan8044 I thought about that too, he could have placed food caches on his so called long hikes, up and over the mountain on the way to Alamo, NV and continued on to his next location. As for him being out of the country, not sure. He would have had to change his identification or he would be found if he had a passport. I believe his here in the US and I have an idea where, I'm working on this now, and it's all about your resources.

[@dwdelve]

Truly beautiful scenery and from experience a peaceful place

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@dwdelve Thanks for going on this Adventure and your 100% correct about how peaceful that place was, the scenery alone takes your breath away. I was on a time crunch, so I didn't get to spend some quality time up there as I wish I did. I mentioned that this would be a great two-day hike and one night camping and exploring. I'm working something out right now with one of my buddies to do a backpacking trip up there. Now we just have to find the right time of year, too hot in the summertime and too cold in the wintertime.

[@ChristopherDunlap-t1s]

In some videos Kenny would go in the desert lacking supplies and stay out there for days. I believe he took his gun for survival not hurting his self.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ChristopherDunlap-t1s I believe you are correct, also I think if he really was hiking these long trips for hours on end, he could have been planting his water sources and food along the way out for his escape, up and over the mountains to Almo and towards Mount Irish or White River Narrows where I found him.

[@user-John1]

I think some other KZbinrs debunked and say that's not a covered up m cave. Even the KZbinr SB Vegas Adventures had debunked the claims since he's been at that "covered" M cave in person. So it's not a M cave at all.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@user-John1 SB Vegas has done a great job covering this mountain and the mcave and he continues too. Thank you for going on this Adventure!

[@DMContreras59]

Right! Who's to say he actually walked away from his family 🤷‍♀️? There's no proof that he walked away from his life. Lots of speculation, no proof.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

DMContreras59 very true, I think he still has contact with his daughter, brother and his sister.

[@playpird]

Still makes me think of the Missing 411.

[@Raygilley10]

It’s the ghost of Kenny Veach, talking to you

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Raygilley10 LOL that's what I thought, I heard something, just not sure what I heard. As I thought someone else was up hiking around and it was their voice carrying through the canyon. But as you saw I was alone and there was no one else around.

[@ZPTV831]

All this searching is making me wonder if maybe ……..Could Kenny have hidden the cave himself Great theory by the way 👍🏽….

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ZPTV831 Thanks for going on this Adventure! Your theory is very interesting itself, never thought about that. Crazy as it sounds, 100s of others have hiked, climbed, camped and explored these mountains and yet, no has found anything remotely in the shape of a M, caves are all over these mountains and they only go in a few feet. I've been up there four times, hiking and climbing around these mountains, and nothing! I appreciate your comment and going on this Adventure, stay tuned, you won't want to miss when we uncover his ware bouts!

[@cassandrarobinson7138]

Maybe he's in area 51 jail.

[@dragnet53]

I think Kenny died in the mine shaft where they found his phone at.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@dragnet53 thanks for going on this Adventure! The mine shaft has been explored several times, and nothing has been found inside and out.

[@aaronolson2234]

Kenny is alive and well and living an anonymous life on the lam. Most likely near a desert.

[@tThisNThat]

Anyone want to see a good horror movie LOOSELY based off Kenny Veach...It's called Horror in the High Dessert.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@tThisNThat saw that one

[@tThisNThat]

@@DrivenXAdventure part 2 and 3 are out now and 4 and 5 are in pre production...FYI :)

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ LOL Thanks for sharing

[@peachsncream5808]

Has anyone done a voice analysis of the audio taken by the driver of the vehicle who stopped to talk with the person he suspected might have been Kenny ?

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@peachsncream5808 I did not, I recorded as I wasn't sure if it was Kenny or not. When I encounter this guy in the middle of nowhere took me off guard and when he came into contact with me, I first wanted to make sure that he was alright and that he didn't need any help, food or water. During this time before I even started to record or even think about recording my conversation with a complete stranger was an awkward moment for both him and I, when we we're talking is when it hit me, as I recognized this person from somewhere and the voice seem familiar too. Thats when he realized that something was off and he walked away thanking me. I hope this explains the encounter that I had a little better.

[@kurtsmetana6152]

hes alive, how do I know? who else would break into that store and know exactly where the tablet is

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@kurtsmetana6152 very true, he knew what he was looking for and where to find it. He was in and out in no time. His brother made an insurance claim and made it for more than what was stolen in the store.

[@Yonder-s6p]

But continuing my thought there is no reason why somebody would do that man-made terraforming for no reason at all nor do I believe that Kenny himself moved those rocks

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Yonder-s6p I plan on going back up there with a snake camera to really but the m cave cover up to rest so I hope you continue to follow and join me on more adventures. Thank you 🙏

[@Yonder-s6p]

@DrivenXAdventure also my bad not trying to come off in a way I know you've been up there multiple times and tried to look behind it I just think it could be the biggest write-off surrounding Kenny

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Yonder-s6p All good, I'm working on the next Adventure for uncovering that cover up, and I hope you stick around for this next Adventure and many more. Thank you!

[@kohlashley8408]

So what the person you found walking aimlessly. Was not Kenny? Over years body can heal and adapt and change especially living in the weather… wonder if it was him and he’s just changed over the years he’s almost in noticeable

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@kohlashley8408 So true regards to body, appearance and voice all changes in time and I personally so think it was him. Thats my personal opinion and we all have one. I'm doing everything in my power to uncover this mystery and I'm looking at all different angles and looking outside of the box for answers. So, I hope you stick with me, not on just this Adventures, but other ones too. Thanks again.

[@Eye_4_An_Eye]

and as far as caves go, they do happen to have gasses in them so feeling dizzy and sick near one thats leaking gasses would definitely have you feeling a bit strange. look at any cave diver videos...there is a proper way to explore safely. those gasses can kill you.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Eye_4_An_Eye That’s a great point! Caves can definitely have dangerous gases, and it’s a real risk if you don’t know what you’re walking into. As for the so called cave up in picture canyon, didn't have anything like that, as I didn't get sick or dizzy. As for why Kenny said that he felt a vibration or dizziness from this cave, I believe this is what they call a diversion, to what he plans on really doing, and that is the mystery that we are all trying to figure out. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on this-it’s a reminder to stay safe out there. Looking forward to hearing about your next exploration!

[@neo-m9u]

Everyone enjoys solving a good puzzle...

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@neo-m9u and what a puzzle this is

[@Zone8-jk]

They found his truck beside the mine, too, so someone had to help him or he is dead.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Zone8-jk Thank you for going on this Adventure! They did, right where he left it, and got into another vehicle and drove away. I know, that sounds so far fetch, but I believe it's the truth and there is so much more to this mystery of Kenny Veach that I hope to see you on future videos on other Adventures to uncovering the truth.

[@thegarethdav]

On 8:10 it looks like it’s blocked up with boulders and cement. Again when you say the m cave is natural, on 15:22 it looks like concrete at the bottom of the stones through the camera anyway.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@thegarethdav I'm not a Geologist and I know nothing about rocks and there natural forms or formations. I look at what your talking about regarding 8:10 and you have to remember that when it rain through this canyon it's a flash flood and its all down hill, the amount of water and the force it will be traveling at will push rocks and boulders like marbles. So I can see that happening, rocks were shoved under. As for 15:22 that just looks like all the rest of the rocks in the area, so I'm not sure how to really answer that. Other than they look natural.

[@angelreder9064]

those caves right at the ten minute mark look like a scull cave. Wicked cool😎 I could be wrong but I heard that Kenny's vehicle was found not to long after he went missing. There has been so much speculation these days it's hard to say. He may not have discovered anything, and didn't out himself. He could have decided to become a nomad basically. More people than you realize do it and it's a big world. your being a bit harsh and critical towards someone you've never met. Many people just abandon society most because they couldn't conform or fit in. he had no children and there could be unknown reasons he cut off communication with his family. It happens more often than I would like Not to mention how many people are out exploring more than ever before because the mystery he created, that is very good thing in my view, and like others though you are more critical than most channels that cover Kenny Veach you just used his story for views

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@angelreder9064 Thanks for your thoughtful comment! The caves around the 10-minute mark definitely have a unique and eerie vibe, nature sure knows how to create some incredible shapes. As for Kenny’s case, please watch the next video "The Hidden Truth: New Evidence in the Kenny Veach Mystery" I agree that there’s been so much speculation over the years, and the idea of him choosing a nomadic lifestyle isn’t far-fetched. There are countless reasons someone might decide to step away from society, and it’s a choice we may never fully understand. I know my approach might seem more critical, but it’s because I want to focus on digging deeper and asking questions that others might not. It’s not about using his story for views, it’s about exploring the mystery with respect and sharing the journey with people who are equally curious. I’m glad you shared your perspective, and I hope you stick around for more discussions and adventures! And by the way, his has a daughter and a granddaughter.

[@petemcpeterson6205]

99% of the time the simplest explanation is the correct one . I think you're probably correct but leaving a 1% chance just in case .

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@petemcpeterson6205 I agree, there is that 1% we have to watch out for.

[@Looknorth802]

Great video man thanks for sharing 👍 CASH COW your right on the money with that! There is a ring leader to all of the bs won't mention names tho. Stay safe on your travels.

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@Looknorth802 Thank you for going on this Adventure! There definitely seems to be someone in control of this and a lot going on behind the scenes, and it’s important to dig into the truth. Appreciate the support, and I’ll definitely stay safe out there on my travels. Hope you continue to enjoy the adventures!"

[@Riddler7676]

I do think he is alive and well somewhere.

[@HiNRGboy]

I still feel Kenny ran into foul play up there

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@HiNRGboy Thank you for going on this Adventure and for your comment! This is a real good comment and a lot of variables to think about when we think about foul play! "This is my opinion!" I've been up there twice, and both times I've spent the night up there and you have the upper hand when you're in this location Joe May Canyon, why do I say you have the Upper Hand? This location is way off the beaten path and the road is very rough going up. A two-wheel drive vehicle can make it up there, but I wouldn't suggest it. As for foul play up in this area, it's hard to say, as you can see them coming. You sit up high on a hillside, clear view of the dirt road coming in from corn creek and the turn off to Joe May Canyon is all up hill and very rocky, so you won't be going too fast, if you air down your tires to 15 - 20 lbs. you will have a smoother ride, but still not fast, top speed maybe 20 mph and you would have plenty of time (15 minutes to half hour) to hide or prepare yourself for whatever may happen. Plus, you would have the upper hand, being higher up. Now depending on what you mean, foul play. Are we talking about his girlfriend or someone else that was already up there waiting. Who would have hiked up to the mine and place his phone and some pocket change at the base of the mine, as this is not a walk in the park, the hike is all up hill, and the hike is in loose gravel rock and very rocky terrain and when you're hiking you are constantly zig zagging around bushes and boulders. Kenny may have hiked up the mountain and placed his belongings at the base of the mine, and then hiked back down the mountain to his vehicle, and on his way down, there might have been someone waiting for him, "Who Knows" but he would have seen them as he was coming back down the mountain and he could elude them by hiking in another direction and he would have had the cover of the bushes to hide from them. It's really hard to say, and that's why this is such a big mystery and that's why the mystery of Kenny Veach will continue as we all search for the truth, but as I mentioned, we need to look outside the box as this is just a decoy, a cover up that he and his girlfriend created as she was the master mind behind this. Watch all of his videos and you will see how pressured and uncomfortable he looks. This journey has taken a lot of turns, and it's great to have comments like yours to consider. Let's keep exploring and I hope to see you on the next Adventure!

[@jamestorline3965]

Cool scenery for real

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@jamestorline3965 Thank You For Going on The Adventure! 100%

[@neo-m9u]

Kenny's watching this video laughing his arse off. lol

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@neo-m9u you are so right about this

[@ClayHarris-g4r]

Well mate keep going mate 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 always I think I am

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@ClayHarris-g4r Thank you

[@donnarouse9432]

I may be wrong but aren't you the side adventures guide

[@DrivenXAdventure]

@donnarouse9432 who the side adventures guide?