THE M4 CSL. New Record Lap Nürburgring Nordschleife.

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@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
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@tropickman
@tropickman Жыл бұрын
I love that you have indicated times for both the full lap and shorter version of the lap. 4.5 second difference
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin Жыл бұрын
I'm just here for Jörg's narration
@profahrer5160
@profahrer5160 Жыл бұрын
Wishing this car in Your ride on the ring🤙
@grp5ltdot2024
@grp5ltdot2024 Жыл бұрын
you would do better :)
@Forixmd
@Forixmd Жыл бұрын
they shuld hire you to set-up the go pro correctly.
@elmedinii.n
@elmedinii.n Жыл бұрын
Definitely you would do better
@olive_noire
@olive_noire Жыл бұрын
Not fair for this driver. The gear ratio seems randomised
@mrmusic1880
@mrmusic1880 Жыл бұрын
One of the most impressive BMW's around the ring! Always great to have the commentary!
@SlickFootTito
@SlickFootTito Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it didn't weigh as much as a boat 😂
@juanp.mendoza8114
@juanp.mendoza8114 Жыл бұрын
​@@SlickFootTitoif it could get to 300kmh faster it would have a most impressive time
@stoneeh
@stoneeh Жыл бұрын
One of the most impressive BMW's what?
@rafael6693
@rafael6693 Жыл бұрын
after watching the 919 Tribute Tour lap, this looks boring as hell
@juanp.mendoza8114
@juanp.mendoza8114 Жыл бұрын
@@rafael6693 ur comparing a not regulated hyper car vs the fastest mid range car
@RobertCekus
@RobertCekus Жыл бұрын
The M4 CSL is a Masterpiece from the M GmbH. Congrats to BMW to have such a good Designer and Engineering Team. Hope soon to see more from the Company in that way. Like an M2 CSL.
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
​+RobertCekus​ Thank you Robert, your kinds words mean the world to us 💙
@wipah
@wipah 13 күн бұрын
​@BMWM you guys are legends and an inspiration to all of us ❤
@mohamedhossam5195
@mohamedhossam5195 Жыл бұрын
BEAST! The balance and stability is unreal for a front engine RWD car 🚀
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Unreal is where we thrive 😎
@zonasky
@zonasky Жыл бұрын
camaro is still faster
@Max10294
@Max10294 Жыл бұрын
@@BMWMamazing performance shit looks, I miss the old BMW’s please stop with the shitty design language I really miss proper BMW
@behramkhan840
@behramkhan840 Жыл бұрын
@@zonasky and a manual
@zonasky
@zonasky Жыл бұрын
@@behramkhan840 the Camaro was driven Manual on the Nordschleife
@Fabian-bv2dz
@Fabian-bv2dz Жыл бұрын
The M4 CSL is a beast. The Rimac Nevara did 7 minutes and that cost $2M
@BigPeeOfficial
@BigPeeOfficial Жыл бұрын
it also weighs more than some mountains
@dwrst
@dwrst Жыл бұрын
911 GT3 costs little more than M4 CSL and did it in 6:59, BMW should lose some weight.
@BigPeeOfficial
@BigPeeOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@dwrst the CSL doesn't have enough areo
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 Жыл бұрын
@@dwrstof the m4 CSL had more aero or would beat the gt3 rs
@dwrst
@dwrst Жыл бұрын
@@kunalmore5212 for sure only more aero would not help M4 CSL to beat even 992 GT3, I drove both on track they are different level
@apocalyptic3829
@apocalyptic3829 Жыл бұрын
People who actually drive Nürburgring can appreciate the bonkers traction of that car. The speed in a few corners blew my mind. Absolutly happy to be able to drive those quality cars with my M3 comming this Dec. Though, the car is still to heavy, which results in a lap time no way near a GT3 RS. Still a freakin great job.
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 Жыл бұрын
not even that much about the weight, the chassis itself is at a disadvantage, the porsche sits lower, has a spoiler, isn't front engined and has wider tracks + more aerodynamic with DRS
@7enty7en83
@7enty7en83 Жыл бұрын
even the regular GT3 finished under 7@@blazesmooth5573
@kunalmore5212
@kunalmore5212 Күн бұрын
@@blazesmooth5573the thing is if the m4 CSL came with an aero similar to the gt3 rs I yhubk this would be a sub 7 min car
@josephkelly4893
@josephkelly4893 Жыл бұрын
Fast but very smooth at the same time. Great to watch, and great commentary as well. Cheers to all involved
@Rns555
@Rns555 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if BMW actually makes a true supercar 🤯🔥🔥
@arnoldaron1171
@arnoldaron1171 Жыл бұрын
That would put a smile on my face, ill do anything in my power to buy that one
@zildog
@zildog Жыл бұрын
They did. The McLaren F1.
@blazesmooth5573
@blazesmooth5573 Жыл бұрын
@@zildog I would like it if they just made a new chassis, 1400-1600kg with 600ish hp would be crazy
@ogunclearnoldgaming1790
@ogunclearnoldgaming1790 Жыл бұрын
They could really use a flagship supercar
@g42.greedo
@g42.greedo Жыл бұрын
@@blazesmooth5573 so a m340 with a S58 engine
@aaronvector4750
@aaronvector4750 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's incredible! That's as quick as a C7 Z06!
@knova1_
@knova1_ Жыл бұрын
Absolute monster of a car. The M4
@elismyrefugeelismysalvatio9140
@elismyrefugeelismysalvatio9140 Жыл бұрын
ugly car.
@Mozz_Films
@Mozz_Films Жыл бұрын
Yeah boy! With the drivers comments, this is something else. Well done!
@tommerlin6579
@tommerlin6579 Жыл бұрын
Over 300km/h👍. A nice and smooth drive. Looks 100% Controller. Well donne
@sammyjjoo
@sammyjjoo Жыл бұрын
Very fast, the speed carried through corners e.g carousel was equal of superior to that of GT2RS MR! 🚀
@aaronvector4750
@aaronvector4750 Жыл бұрын
Lmao this car is incredible but I think you're taking it a bit too far😅 Edit: Average speed through the carousel: GT2 RS MR: 94kph M4 CSL: 87kph
@Muhluri
@Muhluri Жыл бұрын
Aero won’t do much at those speeds
@DarkRoyse
@DarkRoyse Жыл бұрын
@@aaronvector4750 89
@NytrogenLegend
@NytrogenLegend Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely stunning how fast this car is ! Thank you so much Motorsport ❤
@baoquoc3710
@baoquoc3710 Жыл бұрын
Finally, the right tires for a 550hp beast.
@StalwartMan
@StalwartMan 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Every time i watch this lap, I am learning more things about drive on the Nürburgring.
@jogabonito8989
@jogabonito8989 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant commentary. Best one I've heard in any of these Ring record videos. I learned so much.
@flyingbeep
@flyingbeep Жыл бұрын
The monstrous speed of the thing and the tone of the narration had me convinced I left the video running at 1.5x speed
@GiorgiGoguaTuzo
@GiorgiGoguaTuzo Жыл бұрын
BMW M3-M4 progress last 20 years in seconds is 34 seconds
@wcovey25
@wcovey25 Жыл бұрын
And the fastest one is still the e36 😂
@y.spycher
@y.spycher Жыл бұрын
And Maybe the tires 25sec off it🙈
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
@@y.spycher nope
@blocksource4192
@blocksource4192 Жыл бұрын
7:10 is very good for a production ‘luxury’ car
@abdullahhashim2845
@abdullahhashim2845 Жыл бұрын
Incredible lap time wow nice the M division is crazy for making this car.
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь Жыл бұрын
Great BMW! We are waiting for the appearance of productive versions of M5, M8 GC, X5M, X6M, XM Label Red, on this track.
@blocksource4192
@blocksource4192 Жыл бұрын
x5m would be crazyyy
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь Жыл бұрын
@@blocksource4192 😎👍
@batmanwayne9962
@batmanwayne9962 Жыл бұрын
Reaaaally impressive BMW and driver… pretty sure the way it goes to 300km/h can ben improve… but damn, 7’18 is a freaking really good time !
@ITRIEDEL
@ITRIEDEL Жыл бұрын
I have a track pack GT500 and got to drive a friends M4csl around a track. It made my car feel stupid. Was so well balanced.
@nunodeussantogal
@nunodeussantogal Жыл бұрын
Thank you BMW M for this #amazing video with narration of the Driver!
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome 😍
@CELERITYZENITH
@CELERITYZENITH Жыл бұрын
​@@BMWMYou need to change the driver, I would put 10 seconds in front of this weak driver. He drives the 540 BHB M4 CS G82 at the same speed as I drive the 431 BHB M4 F82
@shades2.183
@shades2.183 Жыл бұрын
​@@CELERITYZENITH2@😂
@dbp4790
@dbp4790 Жыл бұрын
@@CELERITYZENITH Claro que sí Miguel, claro que sí.....
@ssd9318
@ssd9318 Жыл бұрын
​@@CELERITYZENITH😂🤣 wtf you all about😂
@ATR-_
@ATR-_ Жыл бұрын
I remember never imagining times this quick on sedans back in the day
@vistakay
@vistakay Жыл бұрын
It's a 2 door
@Valay0r
@Valay0r Жыл бұрын
M2 7:38 M3 CS 7:28 M3 CSL 7:18 BMW had a funny week for showing us daily a new record
@Dr.Ian-Plect
@Dr.Ian-Plect Жыл бұрын
M4 CSL, not M3 CSL
@ernestchapel4411
@ernestchapel4411 Жыл бұрын
But I don’t get why don’t they try a lap time with the m5cs
@Mawiiii
@Mawiiii Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt do too well I reckon@@ernestchapel4411
@blocksource4192
@blocksource4192 Жыл бұрын
@@ernestchapel4411too heavy. will look slow and may be slow.
@deMocskonyi
@deMocskonyi Жыл бұрын
​@@ernestchapel4411the M5 CS isn't meant for turning corners, Mercedes and Porsche are meant for winding tracks like the Ring.
@paulff3
@paulff3 Жыл бұрын
His mastery of the track is the stuff of legends.
@paulff3
@paulff3 Жыл бұрын
@lik-zf5xx will it lower my lap times?
@curveofsound
@curveofsound Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think the old c6 zr1 is just as fast
@itaboss9941
@itaboss9941 Жыл бұрын
Chevy Performance.. simple as that💪🏼
@Muhluri
@Muhluri Жыл бұрын
And that’s with old tire technology
@ericship8383
@ericship8383 7 ай бұрын
No it isn’t? The c6 zr1 did 7:19 this did 7:13 and the zr1 has more hp and is lighter
@ericship8383
@ericship8383 7 ай бұрын
@@itaboss9941overrated gt2 rs smashes the z06 and c7 zr1 cope harder fanboy 💪
@motivationsmega
@motivationsmega Жыл бұрын
M4 go crazy
@МихаилИванов-м1м3и
@МихаилИванов-м1м3и Жыл бұрын
I love it! Impressive car.
@Ackira
@Ackira Жыл бұрын
How many cup holders does the car has, Mister Jörg?
@seanvincenttt
@seanvincenttt Жыл бұрын
W comment
@teddyispg
@teddyispg Жыл бұрын
if there will be ever a next csl special edition, it needs to be lower than 1500kg. i want to see a under 7 min lap record.
@Gioo72
@Gioo72 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! But I wish she had the DKG instead of ZF8…
@SlickFootTito
@SlickFootTito Жыл бұрын
Maybe someday BMW well make again a lightweight car
@athreas
@athreas Жыл бұрын
Why is there no G force meter and that ms2 only ?
@doca8792
@doca8792 Жыл бұрын
Don’t get me wrong, I love fast cars, but what’s the point of cars getting faster and faster, but speed limits stay the same and fuel prices only climb. Makes no sense. This is why the prices of older analog cars keep climbing.
@voykovskiy_4
@voykovskiy_4 7 ай бұрын
I don't mind Jörg's commentary at all, but it's a shame we don't have pure engine sound option considering that KZbin allows few audio tracks
@ruipedro4424
@ruipedro4424 Жыл бұрын
Congrats! :) And many, many thanks for the "comments" during all video (Misha has lot to learn with you.... O-O )
@americanmuscle72
@americanmuscle72 6 ай бұрын
Great run for the M4! just a couple of seconds behind the ZL1 1LE, which is one of the best coupe money can buy!👍
@miau31333
@miau31333 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the tutorial guys
@ss-5553
@ss-5553 Жыл бұрын
Car runs very nice and the driver droves good.
@polluxsimracing3712
@polluxsimracing3712 10 ай бұрын
Great video, i love this car in sim and this helps! I noticed my time of 6:55 can be improved on metzgetsfeld at least and on carousel i cant ever do higher gears
@K1Z_Bala
@K1Z_Bala Жыл бұрын
3 days in a row waking up to a banger lap 🌹
@oitaeduard
@oitaeduard Жыл бұрын
I remember the record time was 6.30 AMG one . How the new record is 7.13 ?
@haraldbeer2562
@haraldbeer2562 Жыл бұрын
Biest M4 CSL PERFEKT ABGESTIMMT POWER SATT GLÜCKWUNSCH AN die ganze M ABTEILUNG. Das geilste ist aber dass ihr den Schärfsten Touring der Welt baut M3 TOURING 🚀🔥😘👍
@jstanna
@jstanna Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the M4 GTS with new Michelin compound
@Quixium
@Quixium Жыл бұрын
everything on the modern bmw's looks good except for the front, and the perfomance is always goated (still wonder happened to the 1st gen bmw m3 gtr)
@aibada6594
@aibada6594 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!! Since CSL is out, the next gen should be around the corner
@coffxns
@coffxns Жыл бұрын
such a beautiful piece of machinery
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Nothing but facts here🔥
@exigm
@exigm 9 ай бұрын
that 299 kmh left-hander at the end!!! wow
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 Жыл бұрын
This guy's driving a little bit faster than when I visited the ring this summer. Actually he is driving a lot faster :)
@semihkaraaslan6915
@semihkaraaslan6915 Жыл бұрын
Wäre echt ein Traum mit so einen Wagen über die Nordschleife zu fahren😢 M4 CS ist zuhause😊
@tommerlin6579
@tommerlin6579 Жыл бұрын
Dann hast ja schon ne tolle Waffe👍
@AhmetKarahan5858
@AhmetKarahan5858 Жыл бұрын
​@@tommerlin6579ich glaube er meinte dass der CS auf der Nordschleife zuhause ist 😅
@tommerlin6579
@tommerlin6579 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmetKarahan5858 ach so🙄. Ist doch ein CSL🤷‍♀️
@krabbe969
@krabbe969 Жыл бұрын
Please give us such a rpm gauge in the interior. I hate these digital raising bars
@giannisweightlifting3996
@giannisweightlifting3996 Жыл бұрын
3.15 i dont know if it s the pov but ive seen this line ( going too left at entry ) very rarely. i was always wondering why people dont use the whole in this specific corner. is it sth slippery/bumpy in the tarmac or u just need balls to brake late and open the line?
@sav7123
@sav7123 Жыл бұрын
What suspension does this car use, would kw 3 be better ?
@fry.master
@fry.master Жыл бұрын
absolutely bullying the japanese.... good work
@DavidS997
@DavidS997 Жыл бұрын
Which Japanese car(s)?
@M.NEO7
@M.NEO7 Жыл бұрын
🤢
@CELERITYZENITH
@CELERITYZENITH Жыл бұрын
kzbin.infosOGrQDq7IbM?si=qQVClhoLTC8klBui Factory original Toyota Supra vs Factory original BMW M3 E46. Against facts not arguments, BMW is faster.
@fry.master
@fry.master Жыл бұрын
@@DavidS997 new nissan z, ctr (that lap time was 20 seconds slower despite being a tuned, stripped, and non oem tire version), faster than any subaru ever made... also any GTR
@alexlaz5157
@alexlaz5157 Жыл бұрын
@@fry.master 200 k vs 50k car not even close
@smilepermile8165
@smilepermile8165 Жыл бұрын
4th gear on these 8spd transmissions fitted to G80/G82 M3s and M4s are so tightly close together to 3rd gear
@dirtymusicassette
@dirtymusicassette Жыл бұрын
everytime i see that car is problematic. I love it so much. when I've seen the Z3 for first time has been that problematic for my stomach. M4 CSL so beautiful that hurt
@blocksource4192
@blocksource4192 Жыл бұрын
ik. I like 4 door cars tho so for me everytime I see that m3 cs….. ooh la la
@2infnbynd
@2infnbynd Жыл бұрын
You'd think 2023 BMW would be able to upload 4k footage.
@nikosbakas957
@nikosbakas957 Жыл бұрын
Record for what type of car?
@Duncan94
@Duncan94 Жыл бұрын
Unreal lap.
@vladislavdimitrov4646
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Жыл бұрын
Which record is broken? What's the record?
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Thank you for your question - please find more information here: nuerburgring.de/info/nuerburgring/records?locale=en
@stephankl632
@stephankl632 Жыл бұрын
Good question. 👍👍
@vladislavdimitrov4646
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Жыл бұрын
@@BMWM Just put it in the thumbnail or in the title of the video
@Spenny909
@Spenny909 Жыл бұрын
Odd, the 7:18 lap by the 2018 Project 8 is not listed on that website.
@loayoweis3424
@loayoweis3424 Жыл бұрын
Mid-range cars
@rishivignesh63
@rishivignesh63 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to the M sportvDriver 🎉🎉
@Abdullah-MakkiMohammed
@Abdullah-MakkiMohammed 10 ай бұрын
any chance for a rhs drive manual m3 for the UK anytime soon??
Жыл бұрын
No surprise. BMW M always nails it. Congratulations. 👏👏
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Always pushing the boundaries 🏆
@k.r.99
@k.r.99 Жыл бұрын
Did it beat the Nevera's and the GT2 RS' time though?
@cartonplein5731
@cartonplein5731 Жыл бұрын
LA PERFECTION!!👌👍💙😉
@Ledscar33
@Ledscar33 Жыл бұрын
Bmw top piloto top grande máquina M🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@ferdinandbardamu3945
@ferdinandbardamu3945 Жыл бұрын
Does this include the heated seats subscription?
@carmadnab
@carmadnab Жыл бұрын
When are we going to see an official M5 CS lap with the correct tyres
@jessei8721
@jessei8721 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@petrolo72
@petrolo72 Жыл бұрын
❓which tires were used on the test for the M2, M3cs and M4 csl ?
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Please check the videos' description texts for this information.
@ducanhcun1909
@ducanhcun1909 Жыл бұрын
Jörg should be the narrator of my life.
@robertpualic5821
@robertpualic5821 Жыл бұрын
wow well done 10 sec faster than M3 CS and 20 sec faster than new M2
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
​+RobertPualić​ It's an impressive lap indeed 😀
@truthkeeperfilms
@truthkeeperfilms 8 ай бұрын
Fast, considering the original GTR in 2009 did a 7:32 I believe.
@walter_ribeiro
@walter_ribeiro Жыл бұрын
Were there any differences between this M4 CSL and last year's, or was this simply a better lap time?
@MOTOMAD555
@MOTOMAD555 Жыл бұрын
This was just a smoother lap.
@1anre
@1anre Жыл бұрын
bloody impressive I must say.
@ULXB258
@ULXB258 Жыл бұрын
one set of tires for a warm up lap and one hot lap and thats it? crazy
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь
@ДобрыйБодрый-ц2ь Жыл бұрын
BMW needed to create a hybrid X7 M with a capacity of 750 horsepower. He's just asking for it
@sovetich
@sovetich Жыл бұрын
Which record?)
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. Please see here for more information: nuerburgring.de/info/nuerburgring/records?locale=en
@elpresidente1000
@elpresidente1000 Жыл бұрын
Two seconds faster. Question is: What was changed? 😉
@grp5ltdot2024
@grp5ltdot2024 Жыл бұрын
7 speed manuals when :(@@BMWM
@K61r
@K61r Жыл бұрын
Fixed the title for ya " THE M4 CSL. New Recorded Lap Nürburgring Nordschleife. "
@Kytes93
@Kytes93 Жыл бұрын
Gasoline is €2 per liter, what do you mean lap record???
@hermannweinzierl5731
@hermannweinzierl5731 Жыл бұрын
Jörg 😍 you are an absolutly great freak!! Thank you !!!
@john_p
@john_p Жыл бұрын
"important not to make any mistakes"... immediately loses the tail
@GameHero80
@GameHero80 Жыл бұрын
what a drive. Well done mate
@jakubkrcma
@jakubkrcma Жыл бұрын
Wow! Respect!
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the appreciation!
@nikbre308
@nikbre308 Жыл бұрын
It's not only about the car, it's also about the driver
@marliteroofing6837
@marliteroofing6837 5 ай бұрын
Hi does anyone know how to get the bmw laptimer workin on my csl. Thanks
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 Жыл бұрын
Misleading name. Lightweight?
@willneverstop
@willneverstop Жыл бұрын
Good lap but 2017 Camaro ZL1 1LE ran 7:16 this should be quicker
@jouhajohnny
@jouhajohnny Жыл бұрын
Congrats BMW M 😁
@BMWM
@BMWM Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🤩
@Rezcuz
@Rezcuz Жыл бұрын
Is there a version without the commentary?
@MB-jz3uu
@MB-jz3uu Жыл бұрын
Wait what record did it break?
@henzo7087
@henzo7087 Жыл бұрын
BMW go for fastest sedan record and I feel still that BMW M4 CSL can beat AMG GTR lap. Its faster car on the stright line, change the driver or change tires for wider cup 2R the same wide as AMG GTR. BMW makes the best cars and I believe in them !
@tommyego2889
@tommyego2889 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t subdivision M show results on M5 сs?
@gockartzz8272
@gockartzz8272 Жыл бұрын
Bmw when are ypu guys gonna take track seriously. Last car you guys made that was made for the track from favtoryw as the e46 m3 and that was rly impressive. Van you guys actually try to catch up with porche a little bit ? But actually making a light and good chassi
@RST9413
@RST9413 Жыл бұрын
you have no idea what are you talking about. bmw will never be better than Porsche because of his configuration. Porsche is a next gen car. bmw is a regular car. is like comparing a bmw with R8 or Mclaren,Ferrari etc.
@gockartzz8272
@gockartzz8272 Жыл бұрын
@@RST9413 at one time bmw m3 csl was faster than Porsches best Street Legal car. I just want them to go back to the more motor sport roots thats all. Where they actually cared about track preformance.
@test-tl8dt
@test-tl8dt Жыл бұрын
this BMW is closer in DNA to a bentley continental GT than an E46. the days of serious sports car bmws are in the past. its a nice car. powerful, stable, nice engine note and probably rides comfortable, but its not sports car. shouldnt be expected to compete with any genuine sports cars.
@chad_3894
@chad_3894 Жыл бұрын
Now we wait for the m8 csl.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you have to make a statement at the end concerning "official CO2 emissions" is sad to me. It's government overreach.
@jrzez
@jrzez Жыл бұрын
Why are these cars SO HEAVy anymore? The best feeling pure M-car these days is the Toyota Supra. Also, the design language is lost, the styling makes no sense. The new M2 for example, is horrible. PS: Nobody wants EVs, and nobody will want them until the tech is where it needs to be, AKA similar to what we have now. Think, battery charges in 5mins to max range. Also, infrastructure is decades behind too. Nobody wants EVs again, the current styling is done by helen keller, and put these cars on a diet. Thank God Toyota is still making a M-Car.
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