THE MACBOOK PRO 13" 2012 IS THE BEST BUDGET LAPTOP YOU CAN BUY IN 2024!!!

[@mrmartywaring]

This is my favorite MacBook. I upgraded the HDD to a 1TB SSD, the RAM to 16GB & replaced the battery. Since I'm not a creator or video editor, this handles a great amount of my daily tasks and my workflow.

[@cynonexus]

Still pretty decent with normal task, though that screen is the only caveat

[@mrmartywaring]

@@cynonexusI agree. I'm not even gonna attempt to replace the screen 😂 I'm glad to live about 10 minutes from MicroCenter (where I got my upgrade parts)

[@BryanBuenaobra]

Have you tried to use thunderbolt to HDMI, mine doesn't work

[@AllTimeTech12]

If you install Linux make sure its a Debian derivative like Ubuntu not direct Debian cause it can be pretty difficult to use direct debian, also if you install Ubuntu which I recommend make sure its an LTS release I recommend 22.04 instead of 24.04 mainly due to stability and support.

[@xedde25]

watching this on this amazing laptop! thanks for helping me choose this great device!

[@cynonexus]

Glad I could help! Apart from being on the thicker side and heavy, it’s still a wonderful laptop

[@iMischaa]

This one is pretty hard to find it here, some people say it still the best

[@cynonexus]

still the best!

[@iMischaa]

​@@cynonexusyeah I saw in your on your video, way faster than the 2011 model, the metal api definitely changes a lot

[@xashwty]

MacBooks from 2012 - 2015 were so good, I have a MacBook Air 2015 and it’s still working perfectly fine! I expect these laptops to last till 2027, to be honest

[@cynonexus]

100%

[@ipankadhipradana1595]

It's around 200$ in Indonesia still expensive for me

[@cynonexus]

Import taxes unfortunately does that to a lot of countries like the ph

[@jaspercas]

same here in the Philippines, I even saw one for 300usd with a stock slow hard drive😂😂

[@iMischaa]

Same in Brazil I actually saw someone selling for USD$500 lol

[@ultraviolettp3446]

I have two of these that I bought several years ago and upgraded both to a 1tb ssd as a main and then both have a second 1 tb drive for data in the media bay as well as 16gigs of ram. Both are amazing machines and I will state these are the best ever laptops ever made. The quality of the hardware is superb and I have both hooked up to 27 inch external monitors and are showing full HD - it is like having an iMac (along with external hard drive and mouse). I am blown away by how good these are for basic tasks including viewing videos in HD. I have Catalina running on both and there is no need to change. I have both laptops with lids closed and on a power supply as well.

[@cynonexus]

That’s good to know! Still an amazing legacy device

[@TazzSmk]

still got one of those occasionally used - 2.9GHz i7, 16GB ram, 1TB HDD, optical drive replaced with 500GB SSD (as system drive)

[@tbjinvestments]

I've got a 2012 upgraded to Ventura with OCLP, and a 2011 Running Linux Mint Cinamon Virginia. Both run extremely well, and the Linux laptop runs so much faster it's become my go to machine. Both of these are i5's. If I see an i7 out there, I'm tempted to grab it as well.

[@samdavidh]

Intel nailed it with the Core chips for these kinds of applications. In many ways they perform similar to how they always did, adjusted for the extra inflation of software and websites etc. SSDs are an absolute must, my friend has this exact 2012 MBP, and it takes minutes to load single apps on Ventura purely because of that spinning drive.

[@cynonexus]

Technology in general has been a gradual increase in comparison to the early 2000s so in other words, computers are lasting longer and longer!

[@JoshSmith-vd7wg]

Omg I wish my fiancé wants one so bad but with expenses can’t afford any wants and her laptop is going out which she uses for her job

[@Alexander_l322]

You know there are places that throw out their older laptops. Schools and universities especially. They can be taken for free, I have so many and average people throw out their old laptops when they buy new and you can get them from the trash and they mostly work and are very useable

[@SimplengKristyano]

what i love about this machine is its repairability. i have one macbook air 2014 which i got from fb marketplace… but i still want to have this specific model of mbp. thanks

[@cynonexus]

2014 MacBook airs are still wonderful

[@unitedastronomer]

the condition looks pristine

[@cynonexus]

@@unitedastronomer couple of dings here and there but it’s in good workable condition!

[@iPodee]

I use one of these for tasks when I'm traveling. I use a 2012 21.5" iMac for everything and it's a good computer, under older macOS versions and Windows 11. Apparently my iMac is slow with macOS Sonoma, even with an SSD and 16GB of RAM.

[@cynonexus]

Honestly anything 2012 era is starting to show its age with Sonoma! But an i7 is still good with my 15” 2012

[@poblacionnorte7408]

I have this with monterey running on it..

[@DerRechen]

Do you know the feeling of wanting something you know you don't need and probably won't use...

[@johnmarchant160]

Another fantastic video! I do love my 2012 13" MBPs, I have three at the moment (one without an internal SATA cable rip). Few thoughts/questions. Macs Fan Control and OCLP breathe new life into them on the software side and 8GB RAM and an SSD on the hardware side. I usually run Monterey or Ventura as I've found Sonoma to have issues that make them not very useful. Have you ran into the bad RAM slot issue that's common on these? Often flexing the board will cause crashes. All three of mine have the issue so I'm limited to 8GB on each. Easy fix is only using one slot for ram. As far as the old HDDs, I find they're great backup drives for the computers I use more often. An iMac and a few 2.5" SATA USB enclosures make for a great Time Machine backup server over my local area network.

[@cynonexus]

not having any issues regarding the ram aspect of it but I agree Monterey is the sweet spot for these MacBooks unless you really need maximum compatibility

[@andylee7862]

I brought the macbook pro 13" retina early 2015 in dec 2023 for only 93€ incl. Shipping. Only if the macbook pro 13" 2012 is 50€ it's a bargain

[@cynonexus]

Need to grab some sort of retina MacBook one of these days, prices are just outrageous when you can get a similarly priced cheap m1

[@andylee7862]

@@cynonexus macbook air m1 basemodel für 400€

[@tyrek78]

@@cynonexus a

[@Henderson101]

I have this with Ventura and it is fine. 16gb, ssd.

[@cynonexus]

Ventura is a good sweet spot

[@rodneymarkestrella6639]

Is this Retina Display?

[@realFBGD]

its a good laptop until you try and do anything other then web browsing on it, the graphics chip on it lowkey sucks

[@Worthless.]

also have one with 16gb and an ssd... i would use it more, but the amount of heat this thing produces is a nono for me. if it weren't for that.. i'd could use it for mundane things for fun... but again, i personally wouldn't use it as a main machine. one big negative is that you cannot have this macbook on your device list and also enable 'advanced data protection' an any of your apple devices until you remove this mbp 2012 from your apple account. which again prevents it from being a main machine bc you cannot sync it with your other apple devices. mine is running the latest OS it's allowed to run natively. maybe if someone has hacked a more up-to-date os on it, it'll allow that security feature. it's too bad apple has become such an ani-consumer company. would be so nice if modern apple products were self-upgradable like in this one.

[@cynonexus]

I guess I didn’t even think of that! Good note taking!

[@sojattech]

Bro action camera 4K video editing you

[@WekaDigitalMediaNZ]

I'm using the 2012 15 inch and have had it since new for making youtube videos for my channel. I have the 16gb RAM and 1tb SSD and can edit 1hr 30m vids in 4k on it okay. I have to now upgrade the OS and was looking at Sonoma, so you say it's no good for this macbook?

[@otegwupero2890]

wow what NLE ,do you use to edit cause my videos lag alot with premeire pro although I am still using an 8gb hopefully the difference will be dramatic when i upgrade to 16gb

[@tyrek78]

for the 15 inch, it has a quad core and dedicated graphics, it should be fine on sonoma, but maybe ventura is a better choice

[@cynonexus]

Sonoma is totally fine on the 15inch 2012 since it has the 650M graphics. Perfectly usable!

[@kuyzbry3520]

13” sonoma no wifi, how to install fresh os thru bootable usb with os?

[@formerlycringe]

@@kuyzbry3520 hold option+r while the PC is turning on

[@SimplengKristyano]

sir how did you installed sonoma directly to this unsupported mac from that external drive? is that a standard install? or OCLP?

[@cynonexus]

It’s open core legacy patcher! It’s just a bootable recovery Sonoma with oclp patched to it

[@pierreinthavong181]

Nice mac video!😁

[@cynonexus]

@@pierreinthavong181 thank you

[@pierreinthavong181]

@@cynonexus @7:30 - Why did you burp, are you okay?

[@zUNREAL]

Hi, i found this one with i5, 16gb and 500gb HDD/SSD for 150, do you think its worth it? Or is an 2015/13" i7/16/1tb better for 350, thanks!

[@cynonexus]

2015 if you don't mind less upgradability! its better in every category. Also I wouldn't get a 2012 for 350 even if it's maxed out

[@zUNREAL]

@@cynonexus Hi! Got the 2012 maxed out for 180, mint condition! Thanks for the response!

[@ITZMEUNV31]

I have a late 2011 with 2 ssd's and 16gb ram. I wiped the drives and installed linux mint since mac os was terribly slow. Ive been trying to get OCLP on it with no luck. Any ideas how to get it installed?

[@TazzSmk]

you need to make OCLP bootable usb stick, maybe make MacOS VM in VirtualBox on Linux and do it from there?

[@ITZMEUNV31]

@@TazzSmk I'll take a look, I kinda gave up on the project lol

[@reiyiesnasir6460]

hi, Do you recommend i run my 2012 MacBook pro with the Sierra OS or Sonoma Os?

[@cynonexus]

Sierra for maximum performance but Sonoma is great if you want the most compatibility with apps

[@reiyiesnasir6460]

@@cynonexus Thank you, am about to fix my mac on my own but how can i put Sonoma in a new SSD?

[@cynonexus]

@@reiyiesnasir6460 make sure you follow how to create a bootable oclp flash drive, ideally usb is better, you can't just run sonoma straight from an SSD without patching it

[@megatronskneecap]

They're perfectly usable but the display sucks and the battery life is terrible

[@cynonexus]

Unfortunately and there’s no replacing that too

[@unitedastronomer]

the sonoma wallpaper looks hideous

[@cynonexus]

@@unitedastronomer it does on the 1280x800 display 😂

[@NoahLorano]

Buy a 2019 laptop, you would be able to buy it fairly cheaply.

[@cynonexus]

@@NoahLorano you can but you won’t be able to work on it or upgrade it as easily as this computer

[@iMischaa]

How much does a 2019 model cost in America?

[@NoahLorano]

@@iMischaa I'm in Canada, I just got it at a great price for $250 CAD. But I got lucky. I would think you'd be able to find a good one for $500 USD.

[@NoahLorano]

@@cynonexus True, but I have a 2014 macbook pro as well. The sound doesn't quite work on it, but I can see a fairly decent speed difference between that and the 2019.

[@JayfkProductions876]

Nope 😂 😂 😂 think this is The Definition of Long In The Tooth 😂

[@cynonexus]

😂😂 low end low end