Man this year is getting better already, two whole videos
@jonstechchannel3 жыл бұрын
Right! TWO! I need more!
@ActionRetro3 жыл бұрын
MARCHintosh vid from 65scribe! Can this month get any better?
@esseferio3 жыл бұрын
Could have been, if only some cryptic german mac upgrade had arrived a bit earlier :) You still can make it happen ;)
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Action Retro!
@wingsfn3 жыл бұрын
I just found out yesterday that I’m gonna be a dad but that pales in comparison to my excitement this morning when I see a new 65scribe video has arrived.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! But I wouldn’t tell the family that. :)
@smugshrug3 жыл бұрын
The previous owner of that Mac knew how to dress snappy. May he rest in peace.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Indeed he did.
@Derpy19693 жыл бұрын
Love the Orson Wells cutaways. He was such a funny drunk.
@goncalodumas3 жыл бұрын
Came here looking for this. What's the movie for this scene?
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Appropriately, a Paul Masson wine commercial.
@ps5hasnogames553 жыл бұрын
ewwww brony
@lawrencedoliveiro91043 жыл бұрын
10:33 Still have a G3/266 sitting in a corner of my office. It’s the only machine I have left, just about, that will work with a 1993-vintage SCSI scanner I still have.
@blackblob5003 жыл бұрын
10:38 And that's why they were called the "NeXT Mafia"
@Melmelbaton3 жыл бұрын
Two 65scribe videos in one month? what did we do to deserve such a treat?
@akcjaxd78633 жыл бұрын
The classic Macintosh. Great nostalgia trip for a Sunday from a totally underrated youtuber. :)
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@user-lo6kq9ls4u3 жыл бұрын
"forced to go on payed vacation" oh old Apple, where did you go?
@macschomo3 жыл бұрын
I found a Macintosh Plus on the street in Munich in good shape. It got a new home.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
That's excellent! I'm glad to hear you found that and rescued it.
@joeltikkanen3 жыл бұрын
Owner of the 2706th Macintosh here! Thanks for the great video! 🍎
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Pretty close on the production line. Good to hear you liked the video!
@RGBVfox5 ай бұрын
First the video game industry, now the home computer market crashed. Also i'm glad you got Joseph's mac up and running again.
@65scribe5 ай бұрын
That's right. They went down hand-in-hand.
@ColonialPuppet Жыл бұрын
A few minutes from picking up one of these awesome machines! UPDATE: It’s a Drexel Mac with the silkscreened blue ‘D’ on the front. Very early too- 6th week of 1984! Will make a video of it for this year’s Marchintosh
@dragonerwolf3 жыл бұрын
Cutting it close, Marchintosh. But yay, Joseph's machine is working again!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I had to scale it to something I could start and finish in a month and just made it.
@JemaKnight3 жыл бұрын
I really just want you to know that I appreciate the effort that goes into the production and aesthetic of something that comes out this sincerely retro.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jnite, for saying so. It's very fun putting these together, and I'm quite surprised by the (mostly) positive reaction to the aesthetic.
@cellularmitosis22 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos
@65scribe2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jason!
@mikedvorscak3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels on KZbin!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@superstar643 жыл бұрын
Imagine talking about one of the most famous computers of all time and still finding multiple unique things to talk about.
@vgtheory3 жыл бұрын
We're getting spoiled for content this year, aren't we? Always nice to see a new 65scribe video.
@Pants40963 жыл бұрын
1:43 YOU WOKE UP MY CAT. Well, technically, my coughing sputtering GUFFAW at seeing Orson Wells drunkenly misunderstanding Macintosh while advertising wine woke my cat. I still blame you.
@JasonStevens3 жыл бұрын
2 videos in one month? That fall must have hit my head harder than I thought!
@Dex99SS3 жыл бұрын
I never heard MacDraw, MacProject, etc said like a chicken McSandwich or McNuggets... lol I always called it Mac Draw.... Like a Mac, and then the word Draw. Ahhh yes... I had a Mac Plus 1MB, in the early 90's. My dad was a painter, and he did a job painting someone's home (interior) on trade for a complete Mac Plus system. And it was complete.... Everex 20MB SCSI HDD, External FDD, cooling fan mounted up top in the handle hole (made for it by apple), Imagewriter (later got an imagewriter II), TONs of software as the man was an inventor, actually held the patent for the Miracle Ear hearing aid... There was SO much software, and I was just tossed into this as something like a 10 year old or thereabouts, left to just figure it all out because I was good with this stuff... and my dad wanted to foster that sort of thing. Freaking amazing every time I think of the whole deal he worked out, as I lost him about 8 years ago.... anyway.... I did indeed sort it all out, and of course there was no internet, google, youtube, etc... There were just boxes of spiral bound Apple manuals. Not that I read them really, I did just sort of figure most of it out, and hit the books for the specifics... Sadly, all of it is gone.... This, that, and the other leads to whatever have you and some other bs, and it gets left behind... at a time where it appears there wouldn't ever be much value to it, it gets treated as such. It was a great platform to figure everything out on though, especially with the schools being heavy into LC series Macs, as I would copy newer systems, programs, had an external modem that I'd use to file share... Had an apple talk network set up at one point, with some LC computers I also had a bit later on, etc. It was all just so interesting to me.... By 97 I had a P233MMX Packard Bell though, and that was that for sure... I was figuring out overclocking, peltiers, video cards (riva 128 woooot woot), and the Mac Plus was a relic.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Great personal story, Brett! Thanks for sharing that. That was quite a system your Dad set up. Sorry to hear that he passed.
@pavlovsky03 жыл бұрын
"it doesn't do anything...?"
@kirishima6383 жыл бұрын
What is that from?
@kirishima6383 жыл бұрын
@@craigjensen6853 Thanks. It's more cringeworthy than anything but I've seen it in so many memes now. Guy clearly had a problem.
@AnkushNarula2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone describe Jon Rubenstein as "Steve Jobs's crony". My sense is that when you've been screwed as badly as Jobs was by Sculley, you will naturally prefer to surround yourself with people you trust more than people you can use. I'm guessing Rubenstein serendipitously fit both criteria. Loving your videos - keep it up!
@65scribe2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with what you said about Steve Jobs' motivations. "Crony" seemed the best term to use. Although it comes off with a negative connotation, it just meant Steve was more familiar with Jon than Jack McHenry. Thanks for watching and commenting, Ankush!
@davidreid8669 Жыл бұрын
I used this in school, the tiny screen really hurt my tiny eyes
@buowerc3 жыл бұрын
LMAO i love your editing style
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@MichaelJ0233 жыл бұрын
Yes, a new video! I had one of each of the classic form Macintosh’s, back when you could find them on the curb next to the trash can in many neighborhoods. My favorite was a Mac Plus that I had paired with a scsi Zip drive as the hard drive. It was my first silent computer, which I used for writing. All of my Mac software fit on one Zip disk. After that was my Mac SE that I had no idea that it had been upgraded with an amazing daughter card that boosted it to 16mhz and 128mb ram. It was even faster than my Classic II. I used it as my gaming Mac.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Very cool how creative people could be back then, getting the most out of their machines.
@HoldandModify3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your narration and coverage. I really hope you can make more videos.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the videos. I have a video in the works, so I’m not done yet! :)
@TylerGajewski3 жыл бұрын
Legitimately laughed out loud at the “Canadian money, eh” and Jon Rubinstein crony bit. Can’t wait for the next video!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the 'lol' feedback, Tyler!
@alarak21593 жыл бұрын
Late to the party but never disappointed. Thanks 65s! Happy Marchintosh!
@iangreaves9333 жыл бұрын
Damn! That is an excellent video! So much research. Well done.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Ian! Thanks for watching! I'm glad to hear you liked the video.
@BizTechSherpa3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE these videos! Always makes my day, and later days when I watch again. Thanks!!!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that, David!
@adinwashere3 жыл бұрын
My first computer was an original Mac 256k. It was a hand-me-down from friends of my parents. I just loved drawing things in MacPaint all day😁 . I later got a new 386 and when confronted with the blinking DOS cursor was shocked that this computer was more modern!
@AlexCBrandon3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information and the best Orson yet!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alexander! I knew you would appreciate Orson.
@JS-ob7fv3 жыл бұрын
Sees new 65 Scribe video: "great!" Sees that it's only 10 minutes: "Damn!"
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had to scale it to what I could do in less than a month.
@d3adman4043 жыл бұрын
Im still waiting for a new video, i really love this channel
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your patience! I am just finishing up a new video, which should be available in about a week.
@nou99643 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel a couple nights ago and have been binge watching your stuff. Your channel rules. I'm learning so much about the history of old Apple products and the humor and storytelling mixed with your personal experiences and old VHS footage really keeps it engaging. Keep it up! I love these videos.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear that you found the channel and enjoyed it. I very much appreciate such detailed feedback!
@aytviewer24213 жыл бұрын
The 512k was the first Mac I ever saw and used in the late 1980s. This led to me purchasing my first Mac, which was the SE in March/April 1990. It had 2 Mb of RAM and a 40 Mb HD. I loved that machine. I might still have my copy of MacDraw packed away in a box somewhere... (On second thought, I might actually have MacDraw II). Someday I am going to unpack the boxes from multiple moves and probably be shocked at the stuff I have. At a minimum, it will be a fun trip down memory lane.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
You were an SE owner, too. Very cool!
@bramvandenbroeck50603 жыл бұрын
Awesome that you got Joseph's mac working again!
@TheNovum3 жыл бұрын
Great tribute to the old owner.
@lawrencedoliveiro91043 жыл бұрын
5:55 The Mac II (same year) was also available with dual internal floppies.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Apple offered the Mac II with dual floppies as a standard config, let alone it's own model number like the SE had ... but.. I'm desperately splitting hairs. I should have just said that "the SE was the only compact mac that shipped with dual floppies..."
@jellepetje3 жыл бұрын
This guy is back and alive! Awesome!
@epic_paul273 жыл бұрын
This man makes 720p videos with low quality but the comedy in them make up for it a lot.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say “spoilers”.
@murdockscott3 жыл бұрын
I just watched your video on the 512ke and commented about how it was my first Mac and second computer after my first being a TI99/4a. After watching this video and learning of our parallel computing journey, I feel somewhat... connected. 😀
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Murdock - Sorry I didn't answer your comment! That's great to hear from someone who made the transition from TI99 to the Macintosh. The retro community is relatively quiet on the TI99 compared to the other Home Computers that came out at that time. I made a couple videos on the TI99, and I'd like to do another someday soon.
@insertaverygenericnamehere3 жыл бұрын
Finally, there is a disk drive that sounds like the one in our 1985's Macintosh! 🥲👍🏻 You need to make a high quality audio recording for a sound history archive!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea. The sound is as much a part of the early Mac experience as the appearance, so I wanted to get some of that in the video. Glad you recognized it from way back.
@adonvonpanzern3 жыл бұрын
Great video, glad to see you back, now if only we had a Color Classic video
@bashbrannigan3 жыл бұрын
WOW, you really packed a lot of history into this video. Great job. I also had a TI99/4A and even programmed a nice hockey video game on it. My understanding is the Macs never took off until they started running laser printers.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Always great to hear from another TI99 user. I spent some time programming on it as well. Lots of fun with that system. And you are right. Once all the pieces were in place for professional desktop publishing, Apple had their biggest hit until the iPhone.
@lawrencedoliveiro91043 жыл бұрын
4:27 No mention of the “Monster Mac”, which took the RAM to an amazing 2MiB? And added fangs to the smiling Mac icon that you saw on bootup.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there seemed to many options, but the MacSnap was the only one I had to show as an example, but funny about the fangs! Hah!
@KGB2403 жыл бұрын
Please make a patreon so i can throw a few dollars your way. As someone who grew up with Mac II's and Centrises, your videos are by far some of my all time favorites.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I was just thinking about that on the weekend. About what I could do there to make it worthwhile for people, and I had some ideas. So I appreciate your definitive vote for patreon.
@adamkordac213 жыл бұрын
Only a month after the 8100? You’re on fiiiiire.
@groomsy573 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Made my day.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Todd. Glad you enjoyed it!
@DrDavesDiversions3 жыл бұрын
7:55 lol. (I was just smiling up 'til then.) Nice jobs.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Dr. Dave!
@nyuni3 жыл бұрын
Very cool that you were able to piece together the provenance of the machine - another great video!
@Bushidounohana3 жыл бұрын
Happy Marchintosh, indeed! Glad you got the old girl up and running again, nicely done.
@inu78413 жыл бұрын
Hell yes, nice to see another video from you scribe this is a great year already :)
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kathleen!
@OldAussieAds7 ай бұрын
Hearing the disk drive of the Macintosh 128 and 512K is very strange for me. I didn't use my first Mac until the SE, and then our family got it's own Mac Plus. The drive in those machines sounded very different, even though the Plus pretty much looked the same both on screen and the external case. By the way, my father (and by proxy, me) first owned a TI99/4A and then a Mac Plus. I used to type programs into the TI, either from books or magazines. When I heard the Mac was coming, I started searching around for program listings. My Dad saw what I was doing and told me this wasn't that kind of computer. I was about to have my definition of a home computer put on it's side.
@BobMar19643 жыл бұрын
After using Lotus 1-2-3 on a PC, I got a Mac Plus and MS Excel. Apple was madding with its product segmentation, so I never went back. 30+ years later, still sitting in front of Excel but learning DOS/Windows provided career opportunities.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. After three years of using a Mac, I ended up in a college course learning DOS and 1-2-3. I thought, "This is pointless!". Then came the contraction of the economy in the early 90's. Even in 2005 I found myself still running and trying to maintain DOS systems from the 80's because budgets were so tight. Buying up 286's online from people on Welfare to maintain the company's mission-critical equipment. I laugh, "who knew?"
@lawrencedoliveiro91043 жыл бұрын
MS Excel 1.x could not cope with more than 1MiB of memory. It was built around some kind of runtime interpreter that only handled 20-bit addresses. When MultiFinder was introduced in 1987, it had a special check for when you launched Excel, to ensure it always loaded in the bottom 1MiB of RAM. If it couldn’t fit, there was a special error message, about memory being too fragmented, that would not be triggered in any other situation, by any other app.
@anilingus3 жыл бұрын
Interesting little video. I remember reading about Big Mac in Sculley's book in the late 90s, but i did not know it was supposed to be Unix based. The Plus and the Classic were the first computers i ever used as a 12 year old in 1993. Guess it was love at first sight. Old Macs will always have a place in my hearth.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
The Plus and Classic. Great first-time machines. I brought up Big Mac as an example of Steve’s over-ambition. Trying to build OS X back in 1985.
@ElijahCiali3 жыл бұрын
@65scribe I wonder how strange OSX (or I suppose macOS now) would be if it was originally made in 1985, I’m glad it was able to be made on much more practical hardware with NeXTStep.
@eviltriplet3 жыл бұрын
I'm 50+, never used a Mac ever. Love these videos though.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
@@ElijahCiali Interesting thought, if it was even possible to do that early. Steve was persistent on his vision.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
@@eviltriplet That’s great to hear, thanks!
@cinemint3 жыл бұрын
I could literally watch these videos for hours. I don't precisely know why, but I could. Thank you for these, genuinely. (Also, what camera do you use for filming these?)
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear Cinemint! I don't think I can explain why people watch the videos either, but I'm glad that they do.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Oh, and to you question, I use the venerable Sony VX2100 miniDV camcorder to film these.
@TheOriginalCollectorA13033 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Macintosh operational again!
@alexn518813 жыл бұрын
0:39 for the “Damn!!”
@deninaumov65493 жыл бұрын
0:41
@grimreboot3 жыл бұрын
Two new videos in the space of a month..... spoiling us! :)
@mrtiff993 жыл бұрын
Great video. Glad you got it working. Thanks
@Tom2112Tom3 жыл бұрын
Props for the Munch Man cartridge!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Props for noticing that!
@Tom2112Tom3 жыл бұрын
I spent many hours of my misspent youth playing Munch Man! Good times.
@sunnohh3 жыл бұрын
I had work to do and this came up, work is waiting 12 minutes ❤️
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@temetka3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Since I just brought my SE out of retirement to use as a word processor, this video seemed kind of fitting ot me even though it is not about my particular compact Mac.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you brought it out. The first video I did in this KZbin series was the SE, being my first Mac.
@Flutterwhat3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and editing style.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@dross17053 жыл бұрын
I love the videos! Keep them coming.
@AgoraphobicLocust3 жыл бұрын
You sir deserve at least a M subs.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!* (* as long as 'M' means million and not a thousand)
@defaultroute3 жыл бұрын
When you are so engrossed in the video that you answer(out loud) the rhetorical questions...
@yueibm3 жыл бұрын
This is great, glad you got it working, thanks for another video!
@ramakrishnamishra81793 жыл бұрын
Very nice video!!! Loved it
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rama!
@Fuzy2K3 жыл бұрын
This video automatically wins for the integration of Orson Welles' infamous "AAAaaaahhh the French champagne" outtakes
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong adding Orson's outtakes into a video. :)
@DEFGI3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea until now that the "Does it do anything?" sound clip you've used in your videos was an Orson Welles quote, the more you know!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Yes, few viewers had figured it out, but knowing only made them all the more demanding to have Orson’s sound bite in every video. Ha!
@darwiniandude3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks.
@jacksonhoyt41273 жыл бұрын
I like you make the videos look retro.
@Garedot3 жыл бұрын
I found an original Macintosh 128k 1st Gen in Albuquerque NM in 2017 for 250. It has the original Bag original Keyboard, Mouse and Power Cable with Two original Diskettes, it was in pretty good looking and working condition. No original box but It is in almost mint condition for its year.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Did you figure out the manufacture date from the serial number?
@macktheinterloper3 жыл бұрын
Mwaaaaahhhhhh zzzeee French Champagne! Thank you for reminding me of this classic. And, naturally, for the entire video. Didn't expect the next one so soon. Even if the ending was slightly bittersweet.
@tegrocket3 жыл бұрын
It's been almost 3 months since a 65scribe post................ DAMN!!!!
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
I promise, I am working on something I'm sure you'll enjoy.
@vintageMIDI3 жыл бұрын
Another flippin' awesome video on Mac history! Would you PLEASE slide into Tim Cook's spot at the company and restore the glory of what Apple used to be under Steve. You get it, Cook, doesn't.
@alerey43633 жыл бұрын
Subscribed because the crucial fact about vacant computer booths at CES taken by x-rated movies
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
lol.
@canadianman0003 жыл бұрын
OH MAN. This weekend can't get any better now.
@tomnoack95933 жыл бұрын
I love your content. :> Don't change, continue!
@gnoodle96813 жыл бұрын
Awesome video once again 65scribe! I usually don't like requesting video ideas to KZbin creators as I'd like to see them do their own thing, but when you get the chance, would you be able to make a video about the original iBook (the one released in 1999), or one about the Power Mac G5? Either way though, I look forward to seeing more fantastic videos.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! I don't actually have the original iBook to base a video on. I might be able to convince a local iBook collector to help me out. I still have my original iBook G4, but no one cares about that. With the Power Mac G5, it's still easy to find them locally at any given time for $50-$100 dollars, and I already have a number of ideas for a video. Good to know there's interest in those two. And, yes, some new stuff for the channel coming soon.
@gnoodle96813 жыл бұрын
@@65scribe That's really great to hear! Thanks for having replied to my comment too, I really appreciate it!
@gnoodle96813 жыл бұрын
I'd personally be interested in an iBook G4 video (I may be in the minority though).
@umageddon3 жыл бұрын
i see where you got the "does this do anything?" quote from now... LOL. All this time I thought it was Bill Cosby.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Bill Cosby?.. ok, I can see that.
@bolm13 жыл бұрын
I see ur at 9.9k subs, early congrats for reaching 10,000 subs
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Yes, I hope the next video this month will push it over the edge.
@VincentValentine3 жыл бұрын
Happy to see a new video!
@YeetPC3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@StarSetByte3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy i see 65scribe, i click immediately
@nessvsninten3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Molar Mac
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to find one to buy or borrow first, but a very interesting machine!
@dronejunglistplatoon3 жыл бұрын
Great day! When the authority on all things mac posts you watch right away and give a like!
@chickenwing9863 жыл бұрын
Yay!!! My favorite KZbin channel
@linoxyard3 жыл бұрын
My experience with the Mac environment is relatively recent. I honestly never cared for Apple in the past; I grew up with a Windows 95 machine, and stayed within the Windows environment until a couple of years ago, when I permanently switched to Pop OS (Linux), since it became an actual alternative to the more "commercial" OSs. I acquired a Power Macintosh G5 single cpu (2003 model) with a 27" Apple Cinema Display for 10 euros 3 years ago, and that was my first ever experience with Mac OS X. Needless to say, it was really fun and made me appreciate a lot of Apple strenghts, like the optimal hardware/software integration, great hardware design (for the most part, the G5 line in general is very unreliable but even it has a pretty cool design in my opinion) and a stable and reliable operating system (I dual booted Tiger and Leopard on the G5). If my family had a G4 or a G5 in the early 2000s I would've loved it, sadly we didn't have that kind of money. I currently run macOS Mojave on my laptop (hackintosh) as my daily driver whenever I'm not at home and I love it (the hardware performance, even on a hackintosh is so much better than Win 10); I really wanted to buy a macbook for myself, but the prices compared to the hardware specs are not compelling. Hopefully this will change a bit with the new ARM based macs.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Great reading about your path to Apple hardware and your perspective on it compared to what you've known from Windows. Thanks for sharing that! It will be interesting to see where things go with ARM, I agree.
@_____77043 жыл бұрын
PREMIUM KZbin CONTENT
@JapanPop3 жыл бұрын
Aaaahahha, the French CEO....Fermented in th’ bottle.
@65scribe3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@DisneyVideoArchive3 жыл бұрын
Now I know where “This do anything?” comes from!
@zarmindrow58313 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah, a new video.
@sirthomas_1 Жыл бұрын
i wanted this just to review it (the original one)