The MAD Story of CAPCOM VS SNK 2 : THE GREATEST EVER MADE !? - RARE GAMING HISTORY

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Top Hat Gaming Man

Top Hat Gaming Man

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Today, Top Hat Gaming Man discusses the history of the Capcom vs SNK 2 and whether or not it is one of the greatest fighters ever.
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@TheRealMCExcellent
@TheRealMCExcellent 4 жыл бұрын
The MAD story is that this game is not playable or available on current gen or even the previous gen THATS pure madness 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
If only it were been released in the PS3 or 360...
@Cyliano
@Cyliano 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was available for the ps4
@Djnighteye
@Djnighteye 4 жыл бұрын
It was a PS2 classic on PS3
@renzokufc
@renzokufc 4 жыл бұрын
@@Djnighteye But it sucks big time because the emulator has infinite input lag :(
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
@@Djnighteye - Complete with input lag.
@willmistretta
@willmistretta 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if somebody forced me to only play one fighting game for the rest of my life, I wouldn't even hesitate to pick this one.
@Alakazzam09
@Alakazzam09 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that way about MvC2, what about it do you like so much? Specifically please, I'm interested in CvSNK2 but I've never played it or been into KOF or their characters. I have watched some tourney matches and it's fun to watch.
@willmistretta
@willmistretta 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alakazzam09 The different grooves (including custom grooves) and the ratio system give it more meaningful options than any other fighter I can think of. By far, actually. It also has an extremely large and diverse cast of fan favorites from the two biggest 2D fighting powerhouses.
@027maino
@027maino 4 жыл бұрын
Bro u can play dis on yo phone with a ps4 remote
@agungtama9109
@agungtama9109 4 жыл бұрын
Why u like this game so much? Graphic is not fully 3D
@benitopulatso6637
@benitopulatso6637 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@plasticbutler
@plasticbutler 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought: C - SF Alpha 3's A-sm A - SF Alpha 3's V-ism P - SF 3 (with parry)
@durianknight
@durianknight 4 жыл бұрын
You thought right, p groove is sf3
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
Try EX1 C groove with run and roll, you will love it
@emansfvera
@emansfvera 4 жыл бұрын
C is just super street fighter 2 groove
@strippinheat
@strippinheat 4 жыл бұрын
@@emansfvera C is Alpha 3 A-ism because it has three levels of super.
@esmooth919
@esmooth919 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Hatchbasic
@Hatchbasic 4 жыл бұрын
We can harp on the music all we want, but it’s 2019 and I still bump “true love makin”
@renzokufc
@renzokufc 4 жыл бұрын
This is tuna with bacon
@davidwatkins6307
@davidwatkins6307 4 жыл бұрын
Damn for real same hear lol
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 4 жыл бұрын
One of the very few songs that was actually good.
@juanmena3648
@juanmena3648 4 жыл бұрын
That's the only one worth remembering.
@thatguy3718
@thatguy3718 4 жыл бұрын
All the time
@MrDrdiaz81084
@MrDrdiaz81084 4 жыл бұрын
This game is EASILY the best fighting game of all time. If capcom truly wanted to make some money, they would make part 3 with a nice meaty roster and redo the sprites in more of a KOF 13 style
@mboswi
@mboswi 3 жыл бұрын
This. Kof 13 is amazing and easily the most beautiful 2d fighting game. I'm sure if they do something like that they can get a loy of money.
@aydengivens8622
@aydengivens8622 Жыл бұрын
Capcom characters in KoF13 style would make me moan louder than a corn studio
@Gertso
@Gertso 4 жыл бұрын
You're crazy. CvS 2 has an AMAZING soundtrack that still holds up today. It's easily one of the best fighter soundtracks.
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
It was alright.
@javierortiz82
@javierortiz82 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone loves it, electronic music ages horribly and this is basically an europop mixtape, I like rock soundtracks on fighting games personally, but many other genres fit as long as they put effort in creating something fitting, like the bluesy, classic, jazzy, folk soundtrack of Fatal Fury, Art Of Fighting and earlier kof's. The soundtrack of MVC and MVC2 was lazily made and was probably just outsourced rather than designed with the game in mind.
@Judgment
@Judgment 4 жыл бұрын
CvS2 soundtrack is good. The variety in numbers is a bit lacking during actual game play, as there's not many stages to choose from, especially during the arcade days (only six stages were available in versus mode - New York was surprisingly available in 1P only). All things considered, it aged very well. So did CvS1 to be honest.
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 4 жыл бұрын
CvS2 is a monster. The roster, music, gameplay, stages. Jeez it was phenomenal. Seeing more of the SNK fam in Capcom art style... My God 😍 Love both CvS1 & 2, but 2 just pushes so many more buttons. Giving so many play styles we rarely see any more Greatest ever? Honestly it refined what the first game was capable of, and pushed it even more. Bummer we have not seen CvS3. Maybe someday
@poisonsnivy6439
@poisonsnivy6439 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but the soundtrack for CvS2 is an absolute banger
@squidsona8509
@squidsona8509 4 жыл бұрын
Yuo
@ScottWozniak
@ScottWozniak 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding Terry Bogard appearing in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, it truly made me feel old to see all of the kiddie's comments saying "Who the hell is Terry Bogard?!?" 😂 As a Neo Geo AES owner from way back in the day, I've always been a fan of SNK as well as Capcom, so I loved the Capcom vs SNK mashups! 🕹
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had an AES, I am also a fan of both
@osurpless
@osurpless 4 жыл бұрын
People say that about Terry?! Get serious!
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
@@osurpless they do, specially in the US
@juanmena3648
@juanmena3648 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Haomaru as a DLC character... Ryu and Ken and Haomaru and Terry together in SMASH ULTIMATE
@juanmena3648
@juanmena3648 4 жыл бұрын
@@osurpless but everyone lost their shit when Sakurai announced Sans as a Mii Costume... let that sink in... Also Sakurai: Here! Another FireEmblem clone character Everyone but me: Yaaaaaay! _it's disgusting_
@thejesman
@thejesman 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this game has the best character roster ever. Great game.
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 4 жыл бұрын
Best crossover in fighting game history ever. Best roster? I don't know about that
@thejesman
@thejesman 4 жыл бұрын
@@sladejosephwilson2300 *shrug* We all have our opinions.
@Lupo32
@Lupo32 4 жыл бұрын
So many other characters I Would have added Adon Strider hiryu Hayate from star gladiator Cody alpha 3 Urien Karin kanzuki alpha 3 Bishamon Felicia Gallon Titanic tim from slam masters Sodom And that's just the capcom side
@Lupo32
@Lupo32 4 жыл бұрын
So many more characters I would Have added Clark steel Leona hiderin Moriya from last blade Kaede from last blade 8man Karnov from karnovs revenge Mature Sie kensou Galford And that's just the snk side
@olschoolTonyCarter
@olschoolTonyCarter 4 жыл бұрын
This game and Tekken 2 as far as best character rosters
@NMarxx
@NMarxx 4 жыл бұрын
The music for this game is Fucking incredible. This is True Love Makin’!
@tonytom5242
@tonytom5242 4 жыл бұрын
This is a game that needs an hd remake....
@Turbotef
@Turbotef 4 жыл бұрын
Have to keep that Morrigan sprite the same though
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 4 жыл бұрын
No. Capcom will ruin it
@capcom23
@capcom23 4 жыл бұрын
we don't want another SF 2 HD remaster. those 2d were just horrible. I prefer olds chool 2D pixels over 2D made by FLASH player. It so doesn't capture the game. They only need to remaster it.. put a slightly higher resolution rework on the background (bring back the amazing 2D graphics from the 1st game)
@demonic-deadbeat3212
@demonic-deadbeat3212 4 жыл бұрын
No but what this & the one before it needs is remasters on Current/Next Gen.
@nayyabmughal1123
@nayyabmughal1123 4 жыл бұрын
@@capcom23 tbh hd is better than the pixelated ones, i havw all the street fighter games hd looks great
@mrmacross
@mrmacross 4 жыл бұрын
The God Rugal theme is easily my favorite end boss theme in video games.
@MrBoilertech
@MrBoilertech 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this is one of my favorite games of all time thank you for looking at this
@jamesburchill7522
@jamesburchill7522 4 жыл бұрын
So. I still play this on my Dreamcast... which is hooked up in my room. In fact...played it last night. The music doesn't bother me. I think that Capcom was very much into strange music during this period in it's fighters. Look at Techromancer, Project Justice, MVC2...on...and on.. Now...the recycling of Sprites was done to an artistic end. It was a quirky, but poor decision. The highlight of the game was always the playability
@sk8hawk4134
@sk8hawk4134 4 жыл бұрын
this guy just mentioned Tech Romancer, I am not alone lol
@jamesburchill7522
@jamesburchill7522 4 жыл бұрын
@@sk8hawk4134 Excellent and largely overlooked game.
@Dr_Salt
@Dr_Salt 4 жыл бұрын
The music is godlike
@prof.x3821
@prof.x3821 4 жыл бұрын
It can definitely be argued that it's one of the greatest fighting games. It is definitely one of my favorites.
@kingoverseas9052
@kingoverseas9052 4 жыл бұрын
This game is True Love Makin' in its finest sense. CvS2 had some killer tunes, some of the most memorable for me.
@RichardHannay
@RichardHannay 4 жыл бұрын
“True Love Makin’” slaps as a track tho
@MrHazeandFire
@MrHazeandFire 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this dude dont know grooves at all. P groove is third strike groove.
@DASHINESS
@DASHINESS 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he got some history shit wrong too. He completely missed X-men vs Street Fighter which it’s success made it possible for the other versus games. This guy sucks
@seanmyster6
@seanmyster6 4 жыл бұрын
@@DASHINESS 1:37 "This all started out in 1996 with the tantalizing release of X-Men Vs. Street Fighter"
@capcomvssnk
@capcomvssnk 4 жыл бұрын
I could see how he stated street fighter two, but the parry definitely says 3
@mrNobody9999
@mrNobody9999 4 жыл бұрын
The music in this game is godlike.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr, fukin amazing
@RichieMyers12
@RichieMyers12 4 жыл бұрын
This game is timeless and has aged so well. I ways go back to it. It's infinitely playable and even just messing around I find out new cool things.
@imyanigmw
@imyanigmw 4 жыл бұрын
SNK releasing their respective counterpart on their pocket system is like a genie granting you a single wish and you asking for a Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich
@AntonioRodriguezSilver
@AntonioRodriguezSilver 4 жыл бұрын
They did release a NeoGeo version, which is the game that he said is a story for another video. SvC Chaos, look it up! It has absolutely gorgeous sprites that have aged beautifully.
@renzokufc
@renzokufc 4 жыл бұрын
They did that to sell more NGPC, but obviously they failed...
@TopHatGamingManChannel
@TopHatGamingManChannel 4 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioRodriguezSilver SVC Chaos never came out until 2003 and was part of a new deal. SNK technically never even existed anymore by that point so the game was published by Playmore - the new owners of the SNK IP - but we will get into all this in a future video!
@AntonioRodriguezSilver
@AntonioRodriguezSilver 4 жыл бұрын
@@TopHatGamingManChannel Well, but that is an extreme technicality :). Looking very forward to that video!
@johna6602
@johna6602 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this is a absurd idea by SNK, I bet Capcom where blowing on the ink on the contract before SNK changed their mind about it!... Bonkers decision that likely helped kill the company.
@landonstrange
@landonstrange 4 жыл бұрын
The music in CvS2 is better then CvS1 and way more memorable.
@Skuntac
@Skuntac 4 жыл бұрын
Not even close.
@lioneart19
@lioneart19 3 жыл бұрын
Both awful
@conflicto7575
@conflicto7575 3 жыл бұрын
Chaos is better than both
@orlanzo2621
@orlanzo2621 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly don’t agree. CvS2 is a great game, one of my all time favorites, but the ost isn’t better than the first game at all. For me personally besides “True Love Making” and “Stimulation” (the New York stage) it’s not that great.
@Tweaked818
@Tweaked818 4 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with this game cuz it came out at a time when fighting games were at their prime. This holds a special place in my heart along with mvsc2. Memories..
@theultimatepololo
@theultimatepololo 4 жыл бұрын
The Game Cube controller is one of the best ever made, "awful" is a word more suitable for the Dreamcast controller but anyways xD, incredible video about the greatest VS fighting crossover in gaming history. PD: God Rugal stage music is awesome, the rest is just correct, but overall this game has a better OST than Street Fighter III, Alpha 3 or Marvel Vs Capcom 2....and this is a fact. Awesome work Top Hat Gaming-san , please do SNK VS CAPCOM Chaos too!!!
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Awful micro d-pad & nonsensical button layout (for fighters) is the reason for the comment. I agree with THGM. I FULLY agree with your comments regarding the music.
@theultimatepololo
@theultimatepololo 4 жыл бұрын
@@TexasHollowEarth I agree with the case of the Game Cube small D pad, but the Dreamcast D pad is even worst for fighting games and nobody says nothing bad against that controller....maybe is because everyone uses an arcade stick when playing dreamcast fighting games
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
@@theultimatepololo - I always use PS2-DC controller adapters. Same on the Gamecube when I played through MGS Twin Snakes.
@durianknight
@durianknight 4 жыл бұрын
Yang maybe the only SF3 representative but to be fair, Chun Li is essentially SF3 style in terms of how she animates
@Deeznutzho
@Deeznutzho 4 жыл бұрын
Her supers were also changed to more match her SF3 form
@GunterJPN
@GunterJPN 4 жыл бұрын
Yang only appears in the background and in a super. Yun is the playable one.
@durianknight
@durianknight 4 жыл бұрын
@@GunterJPN Yun, sorry yes that
@prof.x3821
@prof.x3821 4 жыл бұрын
True. Chun-Li's sprite was definitely based on SF3. She was lacking a few special moves in this game though.
@dragons_hook
@dragons_hook 4 жыл бұрын
@@prof.x3821 not quite as fluid of a sprite either. For both characters
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 3 жыл бұрын
"Wow they came out with a sneaky surprise attack at the start of the round!" I will never forget the announcer 😂
@Hecatom
@Hecatom 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience i would say the cvs2 is bigger than mvc2. Mvc2 is definitely the favorite darling of the usa fgc. And was one of the staples of evo which is why it gives the impression of being more popular. But in terms of sales and international appeal cvs2 is the bigger one. It is still played in many countries, althouhh not as extensively as it usef to be.
@robertprince2651
@robertprince2651 4 жыл бұрын
CVS 2 is the more technically sound game. MVC 2 is a disc of combo insanity nicely crafted.
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
The reduction to 4 attack buttons in MvC2 was trash. It's like when Mortal Kombat Armageddon dropped to only 2 fighting styles per character. I hate the lazy design, justified by a large cast.
@javierortiz82
@javierortiz82 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertprince2651 mvc2 back in the day was the butt of many jokes just like smash is today. Like, "why don't mvc take showers?, because you need to make a quarter circle movement to make the water run". Honestly I think the game is a mess, a glofyfied button masher for the most part, there's technique on it but you can get just fine on it by ignoring it.
@1908fcim
@1908fcim Жыл бұрын
I grew up playing fighting games but then drifted away from the genre so missed this gem. I discovered it at a later age so there's absolutely no nostalgia involved and I have to say it's just simply incredible. What a phenomenal game
@Y2Jay99
@Y2Jay99 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the greatest 2D fighting game ever made
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Great game, just not the greatest.
@welon17
@welon17 4 жыл бұрын
This game is amazing. I have a ton of fun every time I play it whether it's solo or with my friends. The reason people love the Cube controller is because it feels good on the hands, the A button on the center and the rest of the buttons around make it easy to press simultaneously with the other buttons, the stick feel like they can endure everything and are precise, and that "clang" sound the triggers do make you feel like you're actually pulling a trigger. If you don't like the GameCube controller, you either never played a Game Cube or you are too attached to the PS controller, which is one of the most standard controllers there are, not that it's a bad thing.
@GTXDash
@GTXDash 4 жыл бұрын
I play Capcom vs SNK 2 on the GameCube and it controls fine. I use the D-pad even though the analog stick is one of the best in the industry. And yes, I am a veteran of 2D fighters, been playing since 1994. There's a reason Nintendo still produces GameCube controllers to this very day.
@ChubbsX9
@ChubbsX9 3 жыл бұрын
13yr old me was playing this on the gamecube. It never bothered me playing with the gamecube controller. I would play with the analog stick and never had issues. Listening to this soundtrack takes me back! 🙏
@Anthony-pz3hg
@Anthony-pz3hg 4 жыл бұрын
My favourites in order: 1. Capcom vs Snk 2 2. Snk vs Capcom Chaos 3. Super Street Fighter 2 on the Sega Saturn 4. Street Fighter 2 Turbo Snes 5. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
@okbrown
@okbrown 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@krazyv3
@krazyv3 4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite fighting game and I love the music
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
I love my EX groove using the C groove as a base with the N groove rolling and running, I encourage you to try it
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
The game has unlockable custom grooves, too.
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 4 жыл бұрын
Just use the N Groove. Same mechanics. Only difference is MAX mode🤷
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ticketman99 thing is I do not like to press both triggers to go MAX
@Ticketman99
@Ticketman99 4 жыл бұрын
@@seadx6 And *MY* thing is it's better than making an EX Groove just to play characters as if they're all SFA Guy🤷 It's just too easy😁
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ticketman99 with the EX groove I like to be a rusher with Akuma, running, rolling and DP-ing my rivals while still having the alpha gauge
@johntoye6602
@johntoye6602 Жыл бұрын
CvS2 is truly a great fighting game. It doesn't see the play from me it used too, but it brought so much and even now I am sure I only touched the tip of the iceberg. One of the things I loved was its nods to other fighters, for instance., when Sagat wins and can be heard saying "try again kid" a reference to his what the player heard when they lost in the first street fighter. Even claw, who would shake his head when matched against those he deemed ugly!
@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto
@Raphael_De_La_Ghetto 4 жыл бұрын
Im surprised you didn’t mention the “beefs” and other interactions certain characters display before the round starts. My favorite is Terry Bogart vs Yamazaki💪🏽i used to have a list of them i got from gamestop but cant find it anymore. Chun-li vs Yang’s is cool too. Also, wicked fight is a dope azz song on this game! It’s on my playlist listen to it almost everyday!!
@kickheavy8982
@kickheavy8982 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think my absolute favorite is Terry Bogard and Geese Howard. Geese shows a cocky ass demeanor and Terry, filled with rage, shakes his fist and shouts "GEEEEEEEEEEEESE!" with his blood boiling.
@XXSittinsidewaysxX
@XXSittinsidewaysxX 3 жыл бұрын
@@kickheavy8982 my favorite would be Iori vs Kyo
@kickheavy8982
@kickheavy8982 3 жыл бұрын
@@XXSittinsidewaysxX Yeah when they both pull their flames out. I love that one too. Awesome rivalry. I remember seeing them on the arcade cabinets back in the day and wondering why they hated each other so much.
@KobinatorA
@KobinatorA 4 жыл бұрын
I first saw your marvel vs capcom 2 video a few weeks ago, and I've been waiting for this video ever since. My 1st favorite fighting game and my 3rd favorite game of all time
@ChiefTakinawa
@ChiefTakinawa 4 жыл бұрын
Yo man. I appreciate you taking the time to do this detailed research on what made my childhood so great. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just an angry internet troll who wouldn't say it to your face! Long live THGM!
@antgto
@antgto 4 жыл бұрын
The inconsistent sprites had always been my only issue. An issue I basically overlook because this is still one of my all time favorite fighters.
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Cammy looked super bootleg in this game. I'd have preferred SSF2T Cammy. Also, Sagat was too beefy, being his Alpha self.
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna take you for a ride." - Capcom
@KaidonSalter4Heisman
@KaidonSalter4Heisman 4 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment with MvC2 character select screen in the back.
@yelnickmcwawa5858
@yelnickmcwawa5858 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously loathe that song
@user-os1zk8xj6u
@user-os1zk8xj6u 4 жыл бұрын
Who would win? One ridey boi ? Or a love makey bio?
@JaySee5
@JaySee5 4 жыл бұрын
Chang and Choi are Korean, not Japanese. Chun-Li's model is from SF3, not redrawn for this game. The 3D backgrounds look great still to this day.
@drunkredninja
@drunkredninja 4 жыл бұрын
this cat never knows what he's talking about. spits so much straight up wrong information.
@geminisfl
@geminisfl 4 жыл бұрын
@@drunkredninja yep, I've seen lot of wrong information in several of these videos... Even though I'm not an expert or anything like that
@hipegamer
@hipegamer 4 жыл бұрын
Goddamit i want Capcom vs SNK 3 with a remake of true love making to blast in its online lobbies
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 4 жыл бұрын
This game literally made the first one feel like a joke! Absolutely love it! To this very day I am still jamming to the Osaka beat!
@albundy2188
@albundy2188 4 жыл бұрын
The music in CvS2 is great Also P-GROOVE is based on SFIII series, not SSFIIT
@sandeepn1610
@sandeepn1610 2 жыл бұрын
This also had a boss mode where you fight only the evil versions of the main bosses after defeating main panel first.
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
To this day, I'm still puzzled about why Capcom put Kyosuke in the game as a playable character instead of Batsu.
@TouhouGaijin
@TouhouGaijin 4 жыл бұрын
Very odd choice, indeed.
@MrDrdiaz81084
@MrDrdiaz81084 4 жыл бұрын
So true.
@aghniyananda8268
@aghniyananda8268 4 жыл бұрын
Because there was many shoto character in this game. So Kyosuke chosen instead because he isn't shoto
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
@TET - COM Not sure what you mean played out. Also, isn't Kyosuke considered one of the worst characters in the game? Somehow, I highly doubt Batsu would have been seen the same way.
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
@TET - COM Whatever you're saying, it's still not excuse for why he shouldn't have been in the game.
@blvk3
@blvk3 4 жыл бұрын
1st off, the MAD story should be: how many mistakes can be picked up in this video P groove is totally from sf3 series. I guess you never tried that game series in depth at all this really annoyed me, when you get this so wrong moreover, i am not even trying to correct anymore groove references, because it is well established everywhere in the FGC by now after watching the whole video, i can tell this is one the least researched video from you to-date, such as groove origins and character origins with mistake everywhere, butchered names also everywhere. i am still amazed at how you would still be doing fighting games videos, despite knowing very little of them in general, i have watched all of them from you, and i was holding back on commenting, because i could see you have been trying very hard, although you had mistakes here and there. But you totally dont get this game at all, this game is meant to be a celebration of both companies 's pre-millennium creations and clashed them together for fans, this is a very comprehensive piece of art, very fun and yet very unbalanced. Not only you have a vast selection of chars, but you can also use different grooves in combinations which will affect the play style of the characters, not to mention different ratios and will impact team combinations as well. yes the sprites can do some work, mostly right with Morrigan's, but 80% of them are new redrawns, barring a few from SFA3, and the 3D background is a bit meh from todays standard. but you have to consider what year it was released on, it was 2001 and 2D backgrounds were considered outdated, and i was to wowed by that when i saw that in the arcade when they combined 2D played style with 3D animated background, although i do admit if they had added the intro for each stage, just like CVS, it would have been perfect. lastly the GC controller, not going to say it is perfect. but if you consider MOST of the game that we play, regardless genre, we have ONE main button which we use the most, it could be a side-scroller, like veiwtiful joe, 3D platformer like modern Mario, even survival horror like REmake, THE ONE button that you press constantly you dont want to miss it, and in a design philosophy it totally makes sense, and it shouldnt be dismissed as bad design just because it is not a traditional button layout. and i personally loved it, and the only downside is that it doesnt work well in fighting games, that i cant argue.
@Luchablay
@Luchablay 4 жыл бұрын
How DARE you objectively look at my favorite fighting game and point out it’s flaws that I actively overlook because I have fond memories of playing it with my friends! :)
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
... love this damn game! The only one with 6 button Geese & Rock Howard! I played alot of this one.
@JoeyJ0J0
@JoeyJ0J0 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the demo for the xbox version (on one of the Exhibition disc) was the whole game without online. I played it all the time. One of my favorite fighting games
@seadx6
@seadx6 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too, I had the full game
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 жыл бұрын
That HAD to be a mistake! I'm sure someone lost their job over that one.
@raulvargas4060
@raulvargas4060 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a friend having that. I sometimes wondered if I dreamt that
@chrisne1080
@chrisne1080 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever held a GameCube controller? Played Metroid prime with it? That’s why
@GTXDash
@GTXDash 4 жыл бұрын
I play Capcom vs SNK 2 on the GameCube and it controls fine. I use the D-pad even though the analog stick is one of the best in the industry. And yes, I am a veteran of 2D fighters, been playing since 1994. There's a reason Nintendo still produces GameCube controllers to this very day.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 4 жыл бұрын
The recycled sprites kept this game from perfection. They need to update this with more uniform sprites to match the snk side.
@user-tl4fi6oy8d
@user-tl4fi6oy8d 2 жыл бұрын
C Groove is from the Alphas--3 level bar supers. A Groove is from Alpha 2--custom combo super. P Groove is from Street Fighter III--parrying, one bar for full super, including raging demon. S Groove is from SNK titles that use the single bar super that you can manually charge by holding ABC (KOF 94, 95, 96, 97 Extra Mode, for example)--called Extra Gauge in this game. N Groove is from KOF 97 and 98 Advanced Mode--3 bars can be stored, built up by doing moves and charged by pressing ABC, allowing a more powerful super--called Advanced Gauge. K Groove is Rage Gauge from the Samurai Shodown series--a single super bar that builds by being hit.
@ralph4lyf
@ralph4lyf 4 жыл бұрын
One of my top 3 fighters of all time! I'm so glad I have a Dreamcast with this game. Yes the controller is rough but tru old school fighters like us make it work. I also had it once on my OG Xbox way back in the day but man if only it could come to Xbox One via Backwards Compatible games I would be happy AF. Either way great video. Still hoping for a CvS3! One day lol
@e-jaythesupreme1504
@e-jaythesupreme1504 4 жыл бұрын
THIS is my favorite fighting game of ALL TIME!!! My #1! Perfect special move abilities, perfect stages, and the best Fighting Game Soundtrack ever!!!!
@BensyBens
@BensyBens 4 жыл бұрын
Chun Li Sprite Is From 3rd Strike It’s Not A Re-Draw
@gipgap4
@gipgap4 4 жыл бұрын
It kinda is. It’s in the style of SF3 but with fewer frames of animation and Chun is drawn slightly differently.
@Judgment
@Judgment 4 жыл бұрын
It's based off 3rd Strike but not a literal port. Also, her fireball animation is a take off Super Turbo; again, not a port, but a style from a previous game redrawn.
@lay-lowandsmash1519
@lay-lowandsmash1519 4 жыл бұрын
The music is good. Really awesome game.
@tovopro
@tovopro 4 жыл бұрын
You should begin to do a “What If” or hypothetical melee mash-ups, because I would’ve loved to see a Sega Vs Capcom. Or a Sega vs SNK. Or a Konami vs SNK. Etc. 👍
@AntonioRodriguezSilver
@AntonioRodriguezSilver 4 жыл бұрын
Fun detail about the Xbox version: it only cost $5 :) An edition of the US Official Xbox Magazine, which included a demo disc, had a "demo" of the game that was the full thing! Sure, it was in Japanese only and didn't allow saving, but those limitations were not deal breakers! So sorry Capcom because even though I am a big fan of your fighting games (and SNK's!), I didn't buy it because Official Xbox Magazine pretty much gave it away!
@Strider0167
@Strider0167 4 жыл бұрын
The reason the gamecube version was inferior was never about the controller. It was about the techs that other versions had were removed from the gamecube specifically. The roll cancel was removed in gc but it was placed in other versions. So obviously you’re missing out on a big gameplay feature used as a staple in the arcade.
@ismailtroxler1
@ismailtroxler1 4 жыл бұрын
Remarkable series! I know when I played it in the arcades, and on home video game consoles, I couldn't step away, nor put it down! Totally unforgettable.
@kyo2975
@kyo2975 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the amount of fighters thrown in in addition to the ones that were in the previous game. They were great! Now we need a 3D rendition of Capcom VS SNK. That would be superb!
@chickrepelant
@chickrepelant 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, P groove is SF3. parry's and what not. solid video tho, probly my favorite fighter ever
@Kardinaal29
@Kardinaal29 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Geese brings back so many memories. He was my main for this game. This game truly was off the chain
@horizonbrave1533
@horizonbrave1533 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Love this one..so many GC memories... ::Nodding intensifies::
@johnknight5000
@johnknight5000 4 жыл бұрын
Still playing it to this day.
@furytash
@furytash 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@daywalker3735
@daywalker3735 4 жыл бұрын
"Some say this is the greatest fighting game of all time" Oh damn guess he saw my comment on the last video!! Lollllll
@TysonWillert
@TysonWillert 5 күн бұрын
Seeing this game on my retro handheld took it to the next level
@FNHot
@FNHot 2 жыл бұрын
One of the weirdest things about this game, is the number of back ground music tracks it has on the disc, that you can hear in the sound test mode, but only like 6 are used in the actual game. There are amazing remixes of KOF and SF and I have yet to figure out how to hear them while playing.
@DeftRocko
@DeftRocko 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with this game was Capcom recycling character sprites (Morrigan is the biggest offender here). If they gave Chun Li new sprites, everyone else that needed them should have had them (MORRIGAN). Another gripe I have is that this game could easily be Street Fighter vs King of Fighters. More character diversity was needed. This game could do without the evil and superpowered clones. Another gripe is the lack of EX moves. That was a missed opportunity, especially for P groove. Otherwise, the game is easily a classic.
@olschoolTonyCarter
@olschoolTonyCarter 4 жыл бұрын
True love makin' !!!! This game is the Goat of all fighters.
@nickolasecker9817
@nickolasecker9817 3 жыл бұрын
Really a fantastic game. Reignited my love for 2D fighters after stumbling upon it in the arcades all the way back in 2001. Bought the GameCube port the day it came out and tried my damndest to play with the stock controller. Fantastic character lineup, I had never played any of SNK’s fighting games prior, however this entry made me seek out the KOF series, Samurai Shodown and Fatal Fury.
@arsenalxa4421
@arsenalxa4421 4 жыл бұрын
Man this takes me back. I used to be a beast with Terry Bogard, Rolento, and Cammy. I tried picking it up fairly recently but I just don't have the same dexterity as I used to. I blame the Navy.
@CPS2
@CPS2 3 жыл бұрын
19:37 Lol @ "The Gamecube's inferior controller". Literally one of the best controllers ever made.
@Ish0tJR
@Ish0tJR 4 жыл бұрын
10:04 I thought you had enough whining from the SF3 fanboys ?, now you're just asking for it ;)
@Kungpl0w
@Kungpl0w 4 жыл бұрын
Dislike: didn't explain the groove system exclusively
@dason5408
@dason5408 2 жыл бұрын
The King Retro Fighters! Top Hat Gaming !!
@juannarvaez940
@juannarvaez940 3 жыл бұрын
CAPCOM VS SNK 2 IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTING GAME AFTER THE FIRST TITLE BOTH GAMES FOR PS 1 AND 2 ARE AMAZING AND I PLAYED ALL THE TIME EXCELLENT VIDEOGAME COMPANIES SIDE BY SIDE ARE THE BEST OF ALL MY LIFE I LOVE IT.
@initial_C
@initial_C 2 жыл бұрын
When I try to decide if SF3 3rd Strike or Garou is the best I remember that the ultimate tiebreaker exists.
@dewforpolitics
@dewforpolitics 3 жыл бұрын
And those 2001 negative reviews were wrong! The soundtrack is epic especially Shin Akumas theme and true love makin’
@ThatDudeCurtis6
@ThatDudeCurtis6 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel Vs =/= Vs SNK Stop referring to them as if they are part of the same series and Irregardless isn't a WORD, it's REGARDLESS, it's always REGARDLESS
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
They are part of the same series. It's all part of the Capcom Vs. series.
@ThatDudeCurtis6
@ThatDudeCurtis6 4 жыл бұрын
gr8gmr wrong different series, different licenses, different gameplay, created by different teams. Saying they are the same series is like saying EX is the same as Alpha.
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDudeCurtis6 So are you also denying that EX and Alpha are also part of the Street Fighter series too? In the end, the Capcom Vs series is one series, no matter which company is involved or how different it plays.
@ThatDudeCurtis6
@ThatDudeCurtis6 4 жыл бұрын
gr8gmr looking at nothing else would you consider Marvel Super Heroes and Capcom Vs SNK as the same series. Exactly you wouldn't That's how stupid you sound They aren't the same series No more than SF x Tekken or Namco X Capcom There isn't an overarching all inclusive VS series banner.
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 4 жыл бұрын
@@gr8gmr It's not the same comparing different franchises to others just because it says versus.
@El_Chuchuca
@El_Chuchuca 4 жыл бұрын
9:00 P grove was more reminiscent of SFIII, featuring bar filling parries, dashes, short hops and delayed wake ups.
@Wolfedge75
@Wolfedge75 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you for the most part, and it’s just the meter itself that’s based on Super Turbo (& X-ism from Alpha 3)
@HighStakesBBall
@HighStakesBBall 3 жыл бұрын
I had this game on Xbox for years and didn't know what the different grooves meant till today lol.
@WhatDaHeckIsThat
@WhatDaHeckIsThat 3 жыл бұрын
>the music isn't anything to praise I am physically incapable of agreeing with this. True Love Making & Simulation are absolute bangers, and the rest of the OST is great too. It's cool if you don't agree, though.
@marjoken246
@marjoken246 3 жыл бұрын
What made this game so special was Capcom’s run in the arcade. I knew about SNK fighters but it was more embraced by the Latin community in the West. Plus SNK cabinets were made for lefty which I’ve seen people would have to cross their arms on Capcom’s cabinets. So when CvS1 dropped it gave me a better appreciation for the SNK culture due to Capcom’s crossover success with Marvel. CvS2 was the last of the Arcade Era and exceeded expectations. The character select music gets me inspired.
@AIChameleonMusic
@AIChameleonMusic 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin thinks my MUGEN build is this game lol Updated 5/12/2022 DOWNLOAD IT FREE FROM THE CLOUD HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5zFk6unpb56r6M Mortal Kombat Characters Naruto Characters Tekken Characters Capcom Vs Street Figher Characters Super Hero Characters Dragon Ball Characters Video Game and Anime/Cartoon/Tvshow Characters Soul Calibur Characters (hidden at the very bottom are A Few EXTRAS! Meme Boss Characters/ Troll Build Rare Akuma for example in the bottom left)
@ragfarok
@ragfarok 4 жыл бұрын
Gameplay of this video in a nutshell: Jump HP -> HP -> HP -> Repeat
@TheCodeAlwaysWins
@TheCodeAlwaysWins 4 жыл бұрын
the GOAT of 2D fighters. The only thing which could make it better is to have stage intros and cheesy effects as in CVS1.
@mikejonesnoreally
@mikejonesnoreally 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this game. That's saying a lot since i was unfamiliar with SNK beyond Fatal Fury at that point. i feel a case could be made for it being one of the best Fighting Games of all time. It also was the first online Fighting Game so that's going to trigger a lot of folk's nostalgia. :3
@givmespace
@givmespace 4 жыл бұрын
The answer to your title question is "YES!".
@navi2710
@navi2710 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Capxom vs SNK 2. I always found it weird that while I was the Nintendo fanboy in my group of friends I was the only one to buy this game on PS2. When I introduced it to my friends they were shocked it existed. They kept on playing Marvel v Capxom on the Arcade.
@cloudsleyfalconbridge
@cloudsleyfalconbridge 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I've actually had this game as my number 2, 2-D fighting game of all time. (MvsC2 being number one) But if that game didn't exist, this would've definitely been the one for me.
@someone2746
@someone2746 2 жыл бұрын
I love this one just a •little• bit more than MvC2. Just barely. The GameCube version of this game was fun too.
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 4 жыл бұрын
I just hope you take this all the way through the best vs game of all: tatsunoko vs capcom.
@bboydrew71
@bboydrew71 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@SaviorGabriel
@SaviorGabriel 4 жыл бұрын
TvC was a lot of fun. I was so happy when it finally got localized. It got me interested in the Tatsunoko brand, and I found myself gravitating to them more than the Capcom cast.
@bboydrew71
@bboydrew71 4 жыл бұрын
@@SaviorGabriel one of my all time faves
@gr8gmr
@gr8gmr 4 жыл бұрын
"Best"? It was actually one of my LEAST favorite games in the Vs series. I could never get into the Tatsunoko characters. They just never seemed as interesting as Marvel's or even Capcom's characters. Every time I look at that game, I just wish it was with a more well-known group of anime characters like Shonen Jump. That's what I want to see. Tatsunoko? I'd rather not see Capcom go back to them.
@sladejosephwilson2300
@sladejosephwilson2300 4 жыл бұрын
Good game but I would take CvS2 just because of the roster and the game play
@snax087
@snax087 4 жыл бұрын
just recently discovered this game when i was building my MAME arcade and this game along with SF3:3S are definitely my top 2 favorites i love to play
@GreatChicken2
@GreatChicken2 4 жыл бұрын
N Groove was a KOF'97 system clone not 96. (In reality: it's more like N Groove = 98' Advanced, S Groove = 98' Extra). You could recreate the '96 system that included dash, roll and pow.charge with the Groove Edit system tho.
@That1PissedOffBoomer
@That1PissedOffBoomer 3 жыл бұрын
We need a vs collection so bad since a lot of ppl don't have retro systems and can't afford the gouged prices of these classic games. I so badly want all these games on one cartridge or disc or hell digitally. Capcom has done SOOO many compilations but we never get these games, why?
@britneyspearsvillarosa
@britneyspearsvillarosa 2 жыл бұрын
I love Capcom Vs SNK 2 on GameCube and PS2 To me it is the Greatest Fighter for Capcom
@tracyndiyob162
@tracyndiyob162 3 жыл бұрын
happy 20th anniversary capcom vs. snk 2!!! :3
@raykincaid684
@raykincaid684 4 жыл бұрын
The London theme...is one of the best themes in fighting game history.
@michaelvilli09
@michaelvilli09 4 жыл бұрын
s/o to my 2nd ever gamecube game. I play this nonstop
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