THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES

MAG153 - Case #0120204 - Barbara Mullen-Jones
Statement regarding their nine months with the Divine Chain cult.
The Magnus Archives hears the story of how a despondent stand-up comedian fell in with a spiritual community but discovered that some declarations of love can be all too sickly.
Content Notes: Cult activity, physical violence, starvation
Starring: The Archivist - Jonathan Sims; Trevor Herbert - Ian Hayles; Julia Montauk - Francesca Renée Reid; Alice “Daisy” Tonner - Fay Roberts
Writer: Jonathan Sims
Director: Alexander J Newall
Producer: Lowri Ann Davies
Editors: Alexander J Newall, David Devereux, Brock Winstead
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[@paigefuentes1055]

"Intelligence doesn't make you less prone to bad ideas. It just makes you better at defending them." One of THE best things i've ever heard.

[@Rin-qj7zt]

Yeah. I'd just add.. the formation of belief can be an emotional thing, but it doesn't have to be. I mean, it's practically impossible for emotions not to influence your beliefs on various occasions, but it certainly possible to develop a process of belief formation that protects against it. Part of the system I've developed is to treat most all knowledge I have as possibilities rather than concrete conclusions. I stands by ready to change them as soon as needed, and I NEVER associate my beliefs with my identity. I am not my beliefs. My beliefs are just representative of how much I think I know at the moment, and I might not always be comfortable with them either.

[@andreagreenwood93]

@@Rin-qj7zt I wish more people thought like that

[@someoneawesome8717]

It's also exactly what a certain someone needed to hear

[@mimkyodar]

I'm looking at you Manuela Dominguez

[@roseclearwater9904]

Honestly this idea changed my world view a little. I was always like how can really smart people be on the wrong side of history? And honestly this makes so much sense

[@alicepatton3040]

"I'm not her dad." "Not by blood at least-" Jon are you kidding me- I mean, he's right but are you KIDDING me Jon

[@Anarchomancer]

You can't help but love him for it.

[@poets_and_books5523]

Huh? I don't ... Understand

[@clayxros576]

@@poets_and_books5523 Well either they're close enough to be an adoptive family....or uh....she has a nickname for him.

[@macabrecitrus2127]

@@poets_and_books5523 Sort of a pun ! They're Hunt avatars and Julia's dad was a serial killer. So, related by blood

[@macabrecitrus2127]

@@clayxros576 Hell no yikes lol

[@nanahuatli2144]

"Do you have any idea how much damage you can do if you’re a police officer who wants to hurt people? How much the system will protect you?" Damn.

[@belugaval144]

yeah, that shit hits different in the wake of the George Floyd protests, but it was always a sentiment that resonated pretty deep.

[@belugaval144]

and it's in an episode about cults, oh look thematic relevance!

[@0nullnil]

1312

[@mimkyodar]

The one thing I have always found fascinating about The Corruption is how it feeds on toxic relationships. You have Jane Prentiss in Hive, the story of the guy with his "little beetle", this one. The way that preying on peoples need for love and affection can be diseased and corrupted and that is just as debilitating as a physical sickness.... I really appreciate that touch. Corruption stories are always some of my favourites.

[@Nizati]

Damn good point.... Makes me wonder if this is a result in people's fear of sexuality leading to becoming 'soiled/corrupted' like hardcore religions. Or more recently, becoming 'soiled/corrupted' from a STD.

[@mimkyodar]

@@Nizati Ooooh, i LIKE that.

[@broblerone413]

yeah! kinda like the opposite of the lonely but just as dangerous

[@NoOneUsesThis]

​@@NizatiI like the theory. Although sexual intimacy / being horny is more of a Desolation thing.

[@thenedoriiistewardofrondog6965]

​@@NoOneUsesThisI don't think horniness is a desolation thing, just that a lot of avatars of the desolation that we see tend to be sadomasochists

[@trucetruce335]

I’m worried about Jon starving himself. What happens when you starve an animal? It weakens it, sure, eventually, but before it shrivels away to nothing it becomes desperate. Ravenous. I’m worried that by over-exercising his control he’s going to loose it completely.

[@nialls.9939]

he did " feed" on that irish engineer in the cafe

[@elliottgaylord6212]

If that's the case, I'm sure the same could be said of Daisy

[@DeadBore]

@@elliottgaylord6212 and that just might be a lot worse

[@toastghost9145]

Why not go to a prison for serious criminals, make a deal with the guards to let you feed, and then go munch on some prisoners with supernatural experiences.

[@clayxros576]

@@toastghost9145 John isnt on good terms with the authorities, as well no guarantee anyone would be there. As folks watching the big events unfold, it's easy to forget just how rare this stuff is in this world.

[@e.wallacerobin7000]

I was alone in my car when Daisy growled and I literally yelled “HOLYSHITTHATWASHOT”

[@erisgro3945]

LITERALLY IVE BEEN TEYING TO FIND COMMENTS LIKE THESE she’s so hot??

[@greys.8576]

Nah bro you down bad for this one (I agree)

[@lety18chula]

lmao I'm so glad I found this, primal peeps meeting up in here

[@FoxfurYT]

XD

[@astraakeh]

Thank God I'm not the only one

[@jaderush4141]

You keep Gerry in this state against his will for years, but yeah, sure, Jon is the monster here. I'm so sick of people in this podcast having such wild double standards. - Daisy is different. she killed people, which is much better than giving them nightmares - you are a monster, but Helen isn't - you've been kidnapped 3 times in the last week? well, you don't know how bad it's been for ME! I am being held here against my will! do you know how much it sucks? - when were you going to tell us you eat people's trauma?! if I had a horrible secret, say, like, getting intel from the enemy and acting on it without any proof, I would totally tell you And, of course, my favourite: - can't Jon not charge into danger to try and save the world as I'm trying to sacrifice myself for his well-being?

[@mariamatedei]

crazy and maddening but so realistic!

[@Sxcheschka]

That's what I love about this series, the people feel real and it's a lot harder to end up liking them all because of it. Aiming to please is just lying to yourself. Getting upset at characters for acting how they do is even better because that just adds to the realism. And at the same time, they have a point, and our protagonists have a point. They all are right and wrong at the same time. It's very brilliant writing styles.

[@marlencemancet733]

Tbh, it's normal for Martin to feel frustrated when he's sacrificing himself so Jon doesn't have to do so, but Jon it's doing the same so they're just like "Let me save you!" "NO, let ME save YOU!"

[@mistydevillier2197]

Well said.

[@pyrosianheir]

Except, beung bothered by that is a bit of a double standard in and of itself. They're ALL traumatized and acting on that trauma. It's just harder to empathize with the rest of the crew because they're not the functional POV.

[@neganick]

John finally has someone at the institute he can count on for support! Someone who doesn't whine that this is all his fault and do everything they can to cut him down. I never expected to like Dasy, and dislike Basera and Melony, but that's complex characters for you.

[@DeadBore]

She knows what it’s like, I guess

[@toastghost9145]

I love Daisy, am neutral about Melanie, and have grown to kind of hate S4 Basira.

[@DeadBore]

@@fruitygarlic3601 what... what happened with Martin for you??

[@mariamatedei]

melony 😭

[@a-bird-lover]

@@mariamatedei dasy 😭😭😭

[@archsteel7]

Daisy is somehow skyrocketing to be one of my favorite characters, now that she's not blood-crazed she's really likeable.

[@lunalol89]

Daisy and john relationship really went to wlw and mlm hostility to wlw and mlm solidarity Love it

[@elijahkleinman1332]

"Intelligence doesn't make you less prone to taking on bad ideas, it just makes you better at defending them, to other people and to yourself." The Magnus Archives actually has a lot of really wise lines, from this to Annabelle's statements about free will. Just goes to show how smart the writers are.

[@ineedmoresalmon2475]

Johnny boi is the only writer

[@belugaval144]

it reminds me of dnd and the difference between intelligence and wisdom.

[@mariamatedei]

and the one from Fairchild about how this hypothetical apocalypse seems important to Martin unlike others because he's living during this one

[@bugjams]

Sounds like anti-intellectualism to me. The use of the word "just" implies that intelligence doesn't do anything _but_ make you better at lying to people. Which it can help with, I'm not saying it doesn't, but the benefits of higher intelligence outweigh such downsides. You can be both intelligent, _and_ open-minded as well. Not all intelligent people defend their bad ideas once challenged. Intelligence is simply a power that can be used beneficially, or abused. The quote honestly sounds like it came from a dumb person trying to insult someone smarter than them because they were jealous.

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

@@bugjams L + ratio + no need to look into it that much

[@riverunderhilll2018]

the dog's name, Agape, means unconditional love

[@_willow_dino_]

Knew it sounded familiar

[@frostpersonal3758]

i also found this definition for it: "a communal meal in token of Christian fellowship, as held by early Christians in commemoration of the Last Supper" which is a little concerning in context

[@moredoor9178]

It's a greek word, for unconditional love of ones peers, yes.

[@macabrecitrus2127]

I'm ashamed I only know that because of Yuri on Ice

[@riverunderhilll2018]

@@macabrecitrus2127 i mean,,,, same sdfjhbfgfhgj

[@BoredxISxI]

my little lesbian heart swooned a little at protective growly Daisy

[@trucetruce335]

They're talking back and forth like Breeken and Hope...

[@clayxros576]

Seems linked avatars share a mind, and it isn't just something the Stranger does.

[@TangledInYarn]

@@clayxros576 Hmm, considering Elias Bouchard is also an avatar, I definitely see nothing wrong here /s

[@guesswho8723]

@@TangledInYarn Hope to see Jon and Elias completing each other's sentences like Breekon and Hope and Trevor and Julia soon

[@TangledInYarn]

@@guesswho8723 oh gosh please no

[@racoon_in_ankhmorpork]

Oh, that’s what it reminded me of! Yeah, that was proper creepy.. I love it

[@ohnodraino]

you are not immune to cult indoctrination

[@wehadagoodruniguess.2384]

for too long in this episode I was thinking "awww. the divine chain sounds pretty sweet ☺️"

[@jacthing1]

@@wehadagoodruniguess.2384 to be honest if it hadn't found the dog and let the corruption in then it may have actually been not that bad. who knows

[@gg6543211]

O M I N O U S

[@nemnyoom]

@@jacthing1 you, specifically, are not immune to cult indoctrination

[@Zyrodil]

You don't know me!

[@fluffsnake]

Imagine, we all got through the earlier episodes loving Trevor the Vampire Killer... but now... :(

[@cinnamonwisp4207]

I still love him

[@odditycat2716]

I still love him

[@hamburgerdog25]

I still love his character I'm just not rooting for him as much anymore

[@Abigail-hu5wf]

He is amazing and I love him and I want his lil bloodlustful heart to do SO well. But I also want him to lose lol. He's a Hunter, he can't stop himself.

[@thestranger4894]

Still badass imo. What made him a more likable hunter than pre-buried Daisy is that he’s just delusional and funny enough to not be take. 100% seriously

[@guesswho8723]

Daisy went from a character I hated because of how she used her job as an excuse to hurt people to a character I really love. She holds herself accountable understanding that The Hunt influenced her a lot and without it she would probably not have hurt people, she understands the things she did wrong and is working to be better - and the "Do you have any idea how much damage you can do if you’re a police officer who wants to hurt people? How much the system will protect you?" line which is great. She's honestly the most rational character right now, when everybody is mad at Jon for the stupidest shit, she's the one who generally defends him and points out the truth, like fuck yeah Daisy go

[@Vi_Vi_1]

She's a really good character and I also definitely didn't like her the first time I met her, but ended up really loving her and her friendship with Jon

[@guesswho8723]

@user-tf8xr8wc9u youre right, although I do think that she was someone with a penchant for violence, and she knows that, and that's why she was chosen by the hunt, but the hunt still made her violent desires stronger in a way that made it harder or impossible to resist where she might not have acted so aggressively if she hadn't been influenced by it? Like she knows and regrets that there's a part of her that was violent, but still, the hunt made that part much stronger, and while she might not have gone so far if she hadn't been selected by the hunt, she still holds herself accountable that she did bad things under its influence, and that she also was not a very good person even without the hunt

[@Companion92]

Cults are so creepy. Toxic relationships much. The institute is also kind of a cult. I love Jon and Daisys friendship so much. And how Jon wants to see Daisy and the hunt separatly. Because it would mean something really bad for her and himself, if the hunt is a part of her and the eye is a part of him and it's them doing this awful things.

[@late_prince8945]

I thought that the dog will come out as the eleventh.

[@late_prince8945]

And when he said that she isn't worthy of his love. You can't pet the doggo.

[@germanerd6148]

At least I´m not alone with that.

[@cantaloupegodling352]

Jon jumping in with a knife to his throat just to say that they're totally a Found Family is so real I love him.

[@f_mva]

ok, FINE!! i admit defeat!! i love daisy now!! damn it >:(

[@theprideling]

This was my same feeling exaclty

[@CapitanaGabs]

Same here. I can't believe it but here we are.

[@Thisone109]

It's natural to like someone who's trying, specifically trying to be better.

[@tylerjseph2547]

One of us! One of us!

[@marcogypaetus9607]

Yeah, her arc is one of my favorite so far, I admit

The vampire killer and Julia start to give me Breekon&Hope vibes. The way they speak and lines continue from one to the other... like a symbiotic relationship.

[@belugaval144]

honestly this statement didnt scare me it just made me sad. cults are really tragic things, a bunch of broken people putting faith in someone who can only pretend to have answers. it honestly kinda made me want to cry.

[@midnights2631]

I remember when I used admire Trevor and Julia, but the fact they used Gerry when Gerry never wanted to be used as a monster book is horrible. GO DAISY!

[@_spilled_milk_pro-champion3871]

Yeah, especially since Gerry mentioned how much it hurts to be a ghost. They held him prisoner for year, treating him like a book instead of a person, while he was in so much pain and they didn't care.

@@_spilled_milk_pro-champion3871 And on top of that, they got angry because one person did the decent thing and set him free. Like, how awful can you be? But I think Trevor is turning into something inhuman, and Julia with him. Why else would he be suddenly and magically free of cancer or any disease at all?

[@notlurking2128]

Ok this one got to me. I was raised in a cult, so hearing this description of them is... Reminiscent of some of the things I went through, even if it wasn't to that scale. Still, I can't stand meditating, even if it would help me just cause it reminds me of that cult. Also, interesting to hear a religion angle that wasn't The Dark, they usually handed the cult stuff it seems.

[@toastghost9145]

The Dark seems to have the motif of an inverse Abrahamic faith; darkness where there was light, terror instead of hope, brackish sludge instead of holy water, et cetera. Similar to how Filth is frequently about love, or The Stranger adopts the circus as an aesthetic.

[@flamingtorrent2109]

The fact Daisy (i assumed thats who he called) is his emergency number is so reassuring

[@Badficwriter]

And sad because you'd think it'd be Baserra.

[@lordbaphie]

This episode strikes me the most because of the word AGAPE. I'm a closeted atheist studying at a Catholic School and we had Agape feasts every year. And we usually were told to say things that we love about each other, or God or the school. It's kinda nice, actually. I realized that religions and cults don't have much of the difference. The scale is just different, and in religion, since more people believe it, it becomes more valid. But both religion and cults has the sense of belonging that moves people together.

[@ASeed17]

That's really interesting to think about! I hope you'll be able to be yourself freely in the future!

[@notlurking2128]

I heard somewhere that religions are just successful cults. It's depressing how much affect they've had on humanity, but also fascinating. I hope you are ok.

[@3dcypher543]

This isn't meant to offend anyone but this reminded me of a quote I read somewhere online. In a cult, there's a person at the top who knows it's all bull. In a religion, that person's been dead for hundreds of years. Not my quote. But I just thought it was somewhat relevant.

[@belugaval144]

(this is coming from a lifelong atheist, whos parents are atheist as well, so correct me with im wrong here) but to me the only real difference between a religion and a cult is how much dammage it *requires* its members to do, both to others and to themselves. like there are some people who arent devout christians and will mostly just like say grace before dinner and whatnot, and that's most of the Christians i know. but with something like Scientology, there's no being like... casually a Scientologist, it's kinda all-or-nothing. those are just my feelings on the matter.

[@belugaval144]

@@3dcypher543 that is a REALLY good quote that imma be using all the time now, thank you!

[@sarahmcknight2031]

The beginning of this statement reminds me of the Will Woods line "Do you think ideas spread because they are good? No, they spread because people like them."

[@ghostofanant]

WII WOO REFERENCE ‼️‼️live for that song lol

[@dirt007]

I love the fact that they chose rice wine for Arkansas. Not many people realize we are a major producer of rice.

[@alex6027]

The corruption really has themes of love and belonging

[@Andayrew]

Or fear from the lack thereof. "Love bombing" is a great example of the corruption.

[@paigefuentes1055]

See?! Daisy gets ittt everyone just wants to help everyone get through whatever crappy entity they were a part of and everyone is doing their best to stop themselves from hurting innocent people

[@Harleymotor]

the hunters finishing each other's sentences is concerning. they weren't doing that last time....

[@cantaloupegodling352]

They seem to have lost a little more of their humanity but at least they seem closer like Breakon and Hope. They may be turning into monsters but at least they're found family.

[@F0rsythi4]

i just started to think that basira is sorta acting like past daisy. Strong, protective, but very very dangerous... current basira has the same vibe as hunting daisy-

[@michaelrobinson996]

crazy how hunters don't see themselves as monsters

[@Sxcheschka]

Not really, as the Nietzsche quote goes, Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

[@michaelrobinson996]

@@Sxcheschka oh no they're monsters, the hunt actually keeps the hunting

[@amandanaoexiste]

daisyyyy ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ she protect, she growl, i lvoe her

[@superawe]

HE CALLED HIM GERRY

[@victory_snow8220]

Did she growl? Like, ligit growl at the vampire killer? Wow...

[@cantaloupegodling352]

It was kinda hot- what? huh! who said that?

[@manhuntre]

Daisy's just a loyal puppy dog ;n; Basira and Melanie (and possibly Martin) are more or less abandoning Jon but Daisy's affection is unconditional :')

[@cantaloupegodling352]

Every episode I listen to makes Daisy a little more my favourite (well she's still competing with Martin but I love 'em both). Back in season 1 I was like: I don't care if she's a little hot, she's a bad person plus acab but now this is my daughter I will fight to protect her.

[@micahthedoordemon3802]

I'm scared for Daisy home girl full on growled and like I wanted to point out that Juilia and old man duo have been very right on calling out people's monstrous bits of em, so I am worried that Daisy might turn into like a beast or a embodiment of the hunt

[@Archiv1st]

I’ve realized what a hub for activity the Magnus institute is. Obviously you’ve got the eye, the web is watching from somewhere, Helen, Peter, Simon was there for a bit, Daisy was part of the hunt, the coffin was there for a bit as well, and that one time the flesh attempted an attack!

[@Cieges]

DAISY PROTECTION SQUAD RISE UP This is a plea to Jonathan Sims. Do not kill Daisy please

Don't worry, Jon won't do it...

[@Cieges]

@ …😭

[@frostpersonal3758]

at first by agape i thought it just meant "love" but I looked up the exact definition and... "a communal meal in token of Christian fellowship, as held by early Christians in commemoration of the Last Supper" that's not concerning at all... poor dog

[@reecelongden3500]

I'm fairly certain that they're using it in the form of the Ancient Greek terminology: Agape (ah-gah-pay) meaning "true, unconditional love"

[@olajza91]

"listen to the quiet" is perhaps the most underestimated quote from this episode... especially in the times we live in.

[@micah2879]

I really feel this poor woman's vulnerability, and the fear of putting off "your life". Amazing.

[@IrishMorgenstern]

Arkansas! Wow. They did their homework well. Arkansas is the perfect place for this to happen in. (Citizen of Arkansas and Religious Studies scholar who specialized in religious extremism, specifically the terrorist groups that began here.)

[@feathersoffancy8988]

I know, I thought the same! I lived there for four years and it truly is the perfect place for an unsettling level of devotion. Most of the Bible Belt is, but... something about just how rural certain areas are, perhaps? I wouldn’t know. I’m going to have to do some research on the state’s past extremism! That’ll be... well, probably unnerving, but interesting. Thanks for the idea on how to spend my afternoon!

[@IrishMorgenstern]

@@feathersoffancy8988 I recommend starting with the Covenant Sword and Arm of God Siege, our now governor Asa Hutchinson was attorney general at the time. His would be assassin was a mentor of the Oklahoma City Bomber and the date of that bombing coincides with the arrest date. It was also used as a model for ATF involvement with the Branch Davidians. However in the CSA siege the government actually listened to experts like me and they were able to stand down despite the CSA being far better armed and actively trained. Then you have both branches of the KKK, (KKK Inc vs KKK ltd) headquartered here as well as the Christian Identity Movement. They're the biggest players but there is also the meth rings, human trafficking, and whatnot that intersect with this. If you want any recommends or anything let me know. I would be happy to help!

[@feathersoffancy8988]

IrishMorgenstern woah, thank you so much!! This sounds incredibly interesting! I can’t believe there is all of this history that I simply wasn’t aware of at all. I can’t wait to learn!

[@feathersoffancy8988]

IrishMorgenstern hey, I just wanted to say thank you again. I spent about five hours researching cults (especially what has spawned from the Christian Identity movement) and it was very enlightening. I was raised in an incredibly conservative and Christian environment and while I’ve broken away from much of the dogma, it was enlightening to see how close these extremely harmful doctrines were to ones that I heard and parroted for a while. I really enjoyed the experience and thought you should know!!

[@IrishMorgenstern]

@@feathersoffancy8988 I'm glad you had a good time! I started studying religion because I found it to be an amazing tool that either brings out the best or worse in people. I would love to keep pushing that energy to good. (Hugs) happy studies! I'm always here for ya

[@epsyblue7714]

They didn't have to go all the way back to England for a single page, but then they would be missing an opportunity to hunt.

[@anthonykubiak3558]

Oooo, they're getting hungry. I wonder how long John can keep it at bay. The others may fight it, maybe even starve themselves. But he won't. Not forever. And basera doesn't know he may not be so easy to kill :) . Love your work, I'll see you on patreon!

[@JonathanYeets]

"... in Rural Arkansas" Me: *grew up half the time in Arkansas* ~☆~!!!~☆~ Me: *realizes that means southern Arkansas* ~☆~!!!O.O!!!~☆~ *begin to immediately picture one of the random out of the way churches I grew up around*

[@JonathanYeets]

Also "Rural Arkansas" is super funny to me. All southern states are "rural". Takes me an hour to get to a vaguely large city and half my friends live in two separate state classified villages.

[@feathersoffancy8988]

Same!! It was really cool to hear my old homestate mentioned, but also a little too... close to home, if you’ll excuse the pun😅 my past denomination of religion was close to cult-y itself, so it really felt... real

[@Dee-jp7ek]

Coming back to this I really enjoy how they have a legitimate reason for coming after Jon. They dont know Gerry as a person, only as a resource and this guy, whom you've gone out of your way to help freaking takes it. I'd be pissed too 😂

[@Andayrew]

???? They didn't come for the page, they came as an excuse to hunt. Even if he still had the lage, they were gonna kill him, clearly. The page was just an excuse to make the trip to him. They're clearly completely corrupted and united with the hunt atp and they tried to use John being "not human enough" to kill him without question. Either way, they only helped him in the first place because he just happened to be getting hunted by their target

[@Jazzisa311]

God this speaks to me so much. I've worked in the film industry for a couple of years, and the vibe is always: 'follow your dreams, if you work hard enough, you'll make it!' But the truth is, the vast, vast majority of people, even the ones with legit talent who work their asses off, still never make it. So I quit and went back to school at 29 to become an engineer. I'm 31 now. 2 Years to go to complete my studies, and I've already landed a pretty nice job. It's not as exciting as the film industry, but the pay is good and the benefits are great. The scenario of waking up at 41 realising it's never going to happen was my nightmare. So yeah, in a way, I gave up on my dreams, but sometimes accepting mediocrity is a lot better than trying to claw your way out of an endless pit. I own a house and I get 5 weeks paid leave, and I'm still young enough to climb the ladder, even though I've lost my sense of ambition quite a bit. Better than joining a cult though.

[@Xenozfan2]

I love Brandon Sanderson's lesson about this. I can't remember which video it was (it was over Skype for some writing program?) but he basically said "You can't do it; the whole 'things will work out if you follow your dreams and work hard' is a lie, but that doesn't mean it's worthless."

[@kehlcassidy9562]

Hey, it's two years later ! Congratulations, I hope you're content ^_^

[@suzerainty4192]

I miss Gerry :(

[@maddiehupp5693]

Damn, I left a cult 6 months ago and this was… 😳 Hit a lot of things on the head, at least in the beginning that is 😂💀

[@arifhossain9751]

I hate this episode. I can already see the two groups of people who are affected by the mere mention of the word "cult" tearing each other's throat out in a comment section that isn't here... Which is why I love the Rusty Quill community. You guys are lovely. Please don't start a cult tho I'm afraid I'd join instantly.

[@The-Busy-Beeeee]

Same fr

[@a_jae_doe]

Something interesting is how the fears can connect to each other. After leaving the cult I'm sure loneliness still got the statement giver in the end so they left one fear and went right into another

[@nrpbrown]

Daisy has fast become one of my favorite characters

[@arifhossain9751]

If you're reading this MAG172 is now up on acast and other podcast sites.

[@Mondy667]

Didn't expect the Web to be the next one tbh

[@consuelomunoz7398]

*Gerry wasn't yours*

[@f_mva]

that really tugged on my heartstrings man

[@-S.L.]

I hate that they dehumanised Gerry so much that they couldn't even see him as a person, and thought Jon acknowledging his humanity made Jon a monster.

[@_spilled_milk_pro-champion3871]

@@-S.L. For real, that's what gets me about Gerry's story too. As far as the hunters were concerned Gerry was nothing more than a talking book.

[@amphitritemists4595]

THE NOISE I MADE AT THAT SURPRISE REUNION AT THE END!!! I ACCIDENTLY MADE MY SISTER JUMP🤣

[@monalane8740]

protecc daisy at all costs

[@asantaimeep]

Did Daisy just growl? Because oh MAN I'm gay

[@jennifermems1111]

People keep saying that they like/dislike certain characters in this series, and I don't understand that. It's good that they're all complex and they have clear motivations, but it seems to me like caring deeply about the characters is a setup for being hurt.

[@dimsunstuff]

How the hell did it come down to Daisy being the only likable character? Even Mertin is pissing me off this season. Helen is fine too, i suppose. I enjoy her becoming more of the spiral

[@Badficwriter]

I do not like the Distortion but it is interesting to listen to.

[@xmini_manx4206]

Hmm I do so like mertin

[@io_online]

I love Daisy so much guys, oh my gosh

[@cassicorey2545]

Shhhh it's loving daisy's character hours right now.

[@Catglittercrafts]

The minute he said in rural Arkansas I was like hell no you better run run as fast as you can. I live in Memphis and I used to have to do sales in Rural Arkansas and it’s absolutely horrid 😅

[@reenay4913]

Being in a cult sounded really good until it all went to hell, and in retrospect, that's just how cults are.

[@rotemsosna8893]

the 16th Entity: The Dog

[@hermazingbartels2377]

I’m getting major wolf blood vibes at the end there

[@Arya-el9ps]

In this house we stan daisy

[@nialls.9939]

thought i was getting rick rolled when he kept saying never going to

[@saucevc8353]

The rickroll is the perfect way to get people to join the eye. Like spam people with rickrolls and when they get sick of it tell them if you join the Eye you'll be able to magically tell the difference between rickroll and non rickroll links!

[@morgenwalsh594]

2 fav parts of this episode. 1) Jon calling Gerry Gerry. 2) Daisy.

[@guessmyname1246]

Oh I love the intro People really do have a hubris when it comes to cults Cults are in the core emotional and comforting Its the closest to the web, it is genuinely loving, it feels like a warm hug from your family. Because they become your family, they truly do love you and you love them Of course it was always a trap. The weaver makes the system of love and entrapment. The feelings are real. There is no lie in that and thats why its so hard to escape Love and faith makes you do horrible things and you are ignorant to all of it because YOU yourself justified it

[@Anon26535]

"Are y'all with the cult?"

[@ultrawandit]

everyone's so hypocritical oh jeez. it's really funny how the former corrupt cop is now one of the more reasonable ones

[@laughingmask3118]

13:10 SHIT IT'S NURGLE'S ROT! Where's the Inquisition when you need them-- YO WE NEED TO GET THE ORDO HERETICUS UP IN HERE STAT!!!

[@L_Aster]

Episodes that make you want to join a cult

[@coraa232]

Bro, I want to try some cult food

[@laurahenriksen19]

Bath time and Magnus. Whoop x

[@waxingmoon2726]

dynamic duo lmao

[@madiw2097]

this is my FAVORITE episode of the podcast

[@thefisherking2268]

I relate to Daisy so much in her attempts to get better and recover from destructive behavior ❤ Absolutely adore my girl

[@zinganeatsr4011]

Dude when Daisy growled at the end 👀

[@laughingmask3118]

13:05 aw shit: Nurgle's rot. Fuuuuck. Where's the Inquisition when you need them YO WE NEED TO ORDO HERETICUS UP IN HERE STAT!

[@Arya-el9ps]

ok so the start of this statement was literally attacking me, I mean everything they said was true because I am one of those 'smart people' you have no idea how many times I was let off easy because of some dumb shit I was spouting to justify my bad decisions, you may think it might be sensible but really it isn't, the worst part is I am incredibly self-aware of it. I know I can sway their opinion to my side if I am careful with my words. It's is incredibly easy to manipulate people when they think of you as 'intelligent.

[@xcemeterydrivex]

you know what? i'd join a cult for really good food as well.

[@elesaknowles5664]

So excited 😆!

[@shreddedcheese2659]

Jon justifying the things Daisy did to try and make her feel better :'(

[@ann-margretparke9525]

Daisy is so strong!

[@natachabi]

pls how the hell Jon burning Gerry makes him a monster? what is this nonsense?

[@bar3450]

Yey!

[@RumpelGnom42]

Great. I like Daisy now. Which means I am very worried for her.

[@AdamOfIngolstadt]

I love when they act like warrior cats kids role playing on the playground

[@tizbitSNIPER]

A hunter must hunt

[@BrawnyBuddha]

Love bombers got bombed by a certified G(ertrude)

[@paulcastle2019]

In the beginning this person is describing greg giraldos career.

[@lucideva1564]

Love bombing? Well yeah who doesn't?!

[@Pukekoz]

TREVOR APPEARED!!!

[@ohmyyomps2629]

DAISY GROWLING IM GOING FERAL

[@casvirgile]

💃🎶Human Centipede🎶💃

[@pr1ncess.0f.the.stars_]

ah yes, because its TOTTALY not inhumane of them to keep a mans soul in a book

[@elijahmoths]

1:42 for start of statement :)