THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES #65 - Binary

MAG065 - Case #0170701 - Tessa Winters
Statement regarding a strange computer program they downloaded from the ‘deep web’.
The Magnus Archives tells the tale of a computing expert whose pursuit of an online urban legend blurred the lines between the digital and the analogue.
Starring: The Archivist - Jonathan Sims; Tessa Winters - Fran Bushe; Tim Stoker - Mike LeBeau
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[@say2135]

Ok but that was a really smart move on Jon's side??? Like actively seeking out people into computers to just casually mention how he got locked out of "his" laptop, and then having them crack it for him??? I hate that he's being so paranoid but damn he's clever

[@ilomilo850]

So true

[@shosplecolupis8794]

right? its so cool! and it's creative on author jon's side.

[@kryptoonspoopy8536]

Season 1 : *Jon roasting his co-workers* /mainly martin/ Season 2 : *Co-workers roasting Jon*

[@ash.g1310]

OH how the turns have tabled

[@mxxnlight111]

*in russia, coworkers roast you 👁👄👁*

[@craigtpm]

yeah but in season 1 they also roasted Jane Prentis

[@zedespook]

@@craigtpm You're the most clever person ever.

[@craigtpm]

@@zedespook awww thanks 😊

[@em-wg7xg]

OH Sorry. didnt mean to DISTURB you while youre being _Suspicious_

[@mechengr1731]

Best line. Tim is done with everything.

[@zivcaniustav2573]

amogus

[@midnights2631]

You didn't need to be suspicious

[@trash2638]

That was the funniest bit truly LOL

[@alejandrobello7005]

​@@zivcaniustav2573there is a Not!Sasha among us

[@emilyneff3168]

this is like listening to your parents argue with each other while you're in the same room

[@KateCantDraw]

More like when you're in the kitchen and they're in the living room. They don't know you're there, they can't see you, and you don't make a sound. But you can *hear* them.

[@davv6628]

@@KateCantDraw I thought that was what it was always like, whether they should know your there or not.

[@gingeetheginge6071]

@@KateCantDraw Always fucking hated that feeling. You truly get to hear how angry they are and its scary

[@KateCantDraw]

@@gingeetheginge6071 we.have.trauma *Clap, clap, clap clap clap!*

[@sithisarcanis]

Mommy just slapped Daddy at the dinner table.

[@pathe8519]

Petition to organise Martin his tea party

[@scarcovy2607]

*Y E S*

[@davv6628]

I'm here to sign!

[@hopesworld9850]

I support this petition

[@frogonthebikeheh]

That phrase was *GOLD*

[@frogonthebikeheh]

Also, I support, let's throw Martin the best tea party he can imagine 💖💖💖💖

[@leomorris7573]

imagine if you tried to download slenderman or smthin and ended up with a 17 hour video of a man eating his computer

[@someoneawesome8717]

He sounds more like Ben Drowned but I know what you mean

[@gvttrgrl557]

eating my computer munch munch munch, keyboard keys for breakfast dinner and lunch

[@RedCanary2005]

this is funnier if you read this in oz medias voice

[@THEDSTRTN]

@@gvttrgrl557 you see the red drip from my lips; i call this snack computer chips!

[@LichenJuice]

*17 Hours of Computer Eating Sounds to Help You Fall Asleep (ASMR)*

[@ikahanim7939]

I'm wheezing

[@-S.L.]

4 Hours Relaxing Crunchy Computer Sounds & Jazz (Rain Ambience)

[@tiredcatman7381]

Kinda like falling asleep to tma

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

🤣

[@dredpiratetrygle]

LOOOL

[@too_gay_for_this3995]

Now now kids, just because Jon and Tim are fighting doesn't mean they love you any less.

[@furretforpresident]

DIVORCE DIVORCE DIVORCE DIVORCE

[@Flower_Makez_Stuff]

xDDDDDDDD

[@spacechild7509]

"FUCK you, I got eaten by WORMS because of you!" Favorite line so far

[@moriarty1243]

Jon was too, but aparently that was not the empathy he was seeking

[@Snailsfordays]

I love the spooky stuff but by god I am LIVING for the banter between Jon and the others. Also, when Tessa Winters mentions that "sweet spot between creepy and nerdy"... Damn if that isn't just for everyone listening to this

[@trash2638]

True!!

[@kehlcassidy9562]

Oh yeah, I really felt that!

[@klaushargreevesstanaccount8835]

You know you grew up with parents in a broken marriage when arguing between fictional characters becomes the saddest and most upsetting part of an episode about a man cronching down on some computer keys until he died

[@BrooklynMcupkiller]

This both called me out and made me feel validated.

[@missycat7598]

@@BrooklynMcupkiller same here

[@madhippy3]

I am a child of a single parent household, I imagine this kind of thing must be especially stressful for people who lived it. It is still so much more real, in a literally IRL and in the show since, than paranormal computer man. Not only is confrontation something a lot of people avoid, but watching Jon's paranoia grow and him alienating the people who knows is something I think we all have seen in the last year or so. We can imagine the paranormal stuff and understand it is just a story, but screaming matches like what we hear are real and definitely have a special impact.

[@0nullnil]

Yea I feel you there... I might skip over it haha

[@broblerone413]

so true it gave me so much anxiety when they started arguing

[@jessmess7170]

I am continuously impressed by the level of intelligence these characters possess. They are so far away from generic horror characters. Here, forbinstance. The computer is frozen. She crashes the program. It still doesn't work? She closes the laptop. The horror chases her instead of her wallowing around going whaaaa??? It's so refreshing!

[@hamburgerdog25]

Or like the tax collector who met the Others in the taxidermy shop. You hear strange noises coming from a strange place in a strange shop. Sure, check it out just to mark it off the list. You find the single most terrifying thing coming from that place? "We have one down here. Come on. I'll show you." You run the hell away. You realize quickly that everyone and everything here is not what it seems and may perhaps be keen to make you a victim? You get the fuck out. That dude wasted no time and I doubt he ever looked back

[@thestranger4894]

@@hamburgerdog25that’s a good point. The reason why characters are so reasonable is because they’re alive to make a statement, instead of the conventional “and then they all died” horror anthology

[@hamburgerdog25]

@@thestranger4894 well we still have a few exceptions. Like, room temperature IQ exceptions. Some of them might come after this but its usually by means of the person not realizing that the terrifying thing is terrifying, and that person just does their bit and leave. Those are some of my favorites

[@user-ku9xx1gw3v]

​@@hamburgerdog25wait what episode is this?

[@hamburgerdog25]

@@user-ku9xx1gw3v episode 54, Still Life

[@samlueke2855]

iiiim gonna MONCH iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim gonna CRONCH

[@artiedavis799]

How does it feel to be the funniest person on this app

[@deadinthename]

You're literally my hero

[@user-oi2ef1fc9o]

i'm going to eat your computer whole.

[@deadinthename]

@@user-oi2ef1fc9o *slurps wires like spaghetti*

[@user-oi2ef1fc9o]

@@deadinthename The wire really have a *shocking* taste don't they?

[@jadynnkotch1833]

A man eating his computer? Tim confronting Jon? Oh boy, this was one hell of an episode.

[@b-blythe6763]

the real horror is a job you want to quit but cant

[@shreeeeeeeeeeeeee]

the real horror is working in retail.

[@KISando]

@@shreeeeeeeeeeeeee agreed!

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Thanks capitalism

[@brandesmears6254]

That moment when Tim realized something was pulling strings was almost instant de-escalation and just what my conflicts averse mind needed. Now he knows it's not just his co-workers that Jon is paranoid over, and that maybe he has good reason.

[@TIGGYQUE]

That was so creepy but also starkly obvious that something is wrong. Like, it was instant that they realized they couldn't escape the archives. I wonder what would happen if someone decided to just not show up to work.

[@dull_demon4717]

The static also started when the talk of quitting started

[@a_jae_doe]

​@@TIGGYQUEi think they can just have days off Bc martin was stuck with prentiss in his flat but if you try to leave with the intent of quitting you can't (I'm a new listener btw so no one confirm or deny this pleeease)

[@melissaharris3389]

​@TIGGYQUE The first inkling is in Ep. 40 when Jon asks Martin why he hasn't quit, and Martin says he feels stuck.

[@saintcig]

me, a nonbinary person: haha this isnt scary jon: episode 65.. binary... me: AHH

[@SI-nx3fo]

this is the funniest fucking comment. thank you

[@emmaschmidtfitzpatrick3416]

I thought the same

[@georgebanatas5128]

i'm glad we're all on the same page

[@TangledInYarn]

As a genderfluid person yeah same. actually though, even outside of the joke I genuinely thought this was one of the creepiest yet

[@red_violet6417]

I mean they did say that "nothing about humans is binary" lmao

[@jend3598]

“Nothing about humanity is binary” TMA said nb rights

[@f_mva]

ayyy

[@GreatvalueSerotonin]

Ayyyyyyyy

[@deadinthename]

Ayyyyy

[@agentp5342]

ayyyyyyyy

[@purpletear6459]

Aaaaaaaaayyyy

[@buzzinbea]

People fighting gives me highkey anxiety but the drama was too good v_v

[@kryptoonspoopy8536]

I feel ya and ikr!

[@ZeroOhClock]

As long at they weren't yelling too much I was able to enjoy the drama. That episode where Jon yelled at Martin genuinely was the most freaked out ive been watching this. But it was fine here. Especially considering it started with something as delightful as "Well S O R R Y I didn't mean to *interrupt* you while you were being _suspicious_"

[@piratehalfdroid7370]

SAME

[@alenvi1931]

Same

[@rileymichael2694]

Oh my god, I'm so glad Tessa cleared up the bit about the "deep web". I saw that bit in the description and died a little inside lmao

[@DeadBore]

I feel like it was just TMA being like “hehe, you like scary? You like horror? Maybe you want us to make a story about THE DEEP WEB~~ OOOH~~ *SIKE*! THERE’S NO DEEP WEB, FOOLS, LISTEN TO US EXPLAIN WHY THERE ISN’T! (and then we’ll make an episode about what you think is the deep web, it’ll be cool, promise.)

[@Companion92]

Doesn't look like the archives are going to let any of them leave...I think it's great, that they are adressing it. Every sane person would have left months ago.

[@belltowersubductions5104]

I was going to say that I’d stay willingly, but then I remembered I cancelled a meeting with one of my therapists today and called the other to talk about why I did it. Yeah, no sane person would stay there.

[@tomekkowalewski464]

@companion92 I just realised that Martin got accepted bc nobody bothered to check his resume and now I'm wondering if it was a oversight or a deliberate decision of the 'archive'

[@Companion92]

I think you are on to something. I mean, Elias must have known, right? And the other assistans seemed all to know, that he lied in his resume. But Tim and Sascha probably just didn't care, because they liked him. I think everybody knew exept Jon, wich is pretty ironic.

[@epsyblue7714]

That explains Martin's explanation in season 1 about why he's still there. And when Jon and Sasha contemplated quitting, but chose not to.

[@eliwhite6159]

i love how jon is being very patient with his interviewees this season but my god please tessa sweetie get to the poooooooiiiiint

[@eliwhite6159]

OK NEVER MIND GO BACK I DID NOT WANT CRONCHY KEYS

[@koukonuts]

i laughed at this

[@krissyf1316]

A story in 2 acts

[@seamuswagner3458]

@@eliwhite6159 the story of humanity, a tale in two parts

[@odditycat2716]

I quite liked the way she talked, hearing people infodump makes me happy

[@TheMan087]

Jon earlier this season “I need to be more secretive with my supplementals. Also Jon: *Literally being not secretive whatsoever and getting caught again* “I jUsT dOnT kNoW hOw ThiS kEePs HaPpEnNiNg”

[@bingotries]

no one mentioning wayyy earlier when sasha was first acosted prentiss alongside michael they had that convo like S: "this isnt a normal job i should quit. we all should." J: "will you? quit?" S: ". . ." S: "no. i dont know why but i have to see this through" the archive has been keeping them for SO LONG. ALSO it was so smart of Jon to nudge Tim into quitting before revealing he couldn't fire him. he probably wanted to see how he'd react before bringing up he was also aware.

[@melissaharris3389]

This is indeed one of Jon's better moments. He basically makes Tim confront that something _very_ wrong is going on.

[@effeilensucre]

'Nothing about humanity is binary'. My NB ass shedding a tear over that accidental (?) representation.

[@user-sb4ej1yo5h]

There are 4 NB cast members, so it could be intentional Edit: NB, not NV

[@matthiasbindl7085]

@@user-sb4ej1yo5h NV?

[@user-sb4ej1yo5h]

@@matthiasbindl7085 NB (as in Non Binary). Spelling mistake

[@nemnyoom]

the two genders: gender(s) (or lack thereof) and. nevada

[@headofathousandsheepswool]

@@user-sb4ej1yo5h Really? Who are they? I don't know much about this so I'm kinda clueless lmao

[@afoxfire3524]

I miss when Tim and Jon got along :(

[@justarandomfrogonyourlawn]

I misread this comment as "Tom and Jim" and got so confused

[@BunnyLove5763]

God. The fight at the end made me feel nauseous. That just goes to show how real it felt. Props to the VA’s.

[@WowItsErin]

To quote Jonny in the Season 2 Q&A: "Ohohoho... I know where to fit the Spooky Computer."

[@SpanielTower]

There are... Q&As for this series...?

[@faxonii]

@@SpanielTower you can find the q&a’s in the list of tma episodes on their website! :)

[@Apollo4571]

Huh, she's got a point about digital vs. analog, especially considering the tape recorder. The laptops won't record these statements, but the tape recorder will. So the difference isn't necessarily analog vs digital, it's the type of digital, or the location of the data, that's causing the problem.

[@trucetruce335]

The ghosts just love the aesthetic.

[@f_mva]

martin can't resist the lo-fi charm, and neither can the ghosts

[@patrickhughes8402]

Spooky TAPES!

[@seamuswagner3458]

@@patrickhughes8402 “joe spooky and his haunted tapes” - Tim, probably

[@GREATGAIWAIN]

@@trucetruce335 they have a lo-fi charm.

[@gretablackwell495]

Kinda funny how much this freaks me out considering I’m.. nonbinary

[@marinelaoana5437]

Please stop

[@personnemay2692]

Please continue.

[@pianos4095]

I reluctantly applaud you for that joke

[@lildoomkitty4570]

I enthusiastically applaud you for this joke

[@em-wg7xg]

ME

[@gowonfan12]

SPEAK UP BICON TIM STOKER!

[@jsk-art]

The way Tim talked about how he couldn't quit, it didn't entirely seem like it was simply a matter of him not wanting to, but being physically unable to. Like something was preventing him from quitting, and had some sort of control over him that he may not have been entirely aware of. The way Jon said that he couldn't fire Tim either, made me think that perhaps something similar is happening to him. It reminds me of how in Recluse, the kids at the house were being controlled, and that Raymond Feilding appeared to be (at least partially) using the table to do this along with whatever powers of persuasion he naturally had. I think that Not!Sasha is doing something similar. I think she needs them to uncover some mystery- that there is something she desperately wants to know about and for some reason only the Magnus Institute can uncover this secret. This might even be why the table was delivered to the Magnus institute- so that the creature could use it to gain access to the Institute. Even if I'm wrong about using the table to control people, now that this has led me down this particular train of thought, it makes total sense that either way, Not!Sasha planned on replacing an employee of the Magnus Institute to gain access to it.

[@bonniecornelius3836]

didnt martin also say something like tim when jon and him had their feelings jam in S1?

[@dyld921]

It isn't just Tim. Martin has mentioned (in ep 39) wanting to quit but couldn't bring himself to.

[@Arya-el9ps]

I don't care if Not!Sasha has any ulterior motives, I'm still salty that my comfort character is the first one to die

[@tmaxgo6696]

i think its either a "plot god" like barbatos or smth or the eye guy "owns" them. like some thing won't let you kill yourself as its property

[@kehlcassidy9562]

@@Arya-el9ps I wonder if she's really dead tho, or like, trapped inside some entity? Like the hallway woman.

[@notneilcicierega]

When I was a kid I had nightmares about computer viruses. I was terrified of something haunting me behind the screen and the paranoia followed me for years after I got a laptop of my own. I'd nearly forgotten the whole ordeal, but this episode made me remember. Thanks.

[@user-gz2hy2wu5g]

same bro

[@Iquey]

I feel like every millennial who has illegally downloaded anything for free has computer virus nightmares with software that fucks up the screen and processing in nonsensical ways.

[@frostpersonal3758]

SAME, i had a childhood phobia of computer programs becoming malicious and/or sentient and I was terrified by the idea of computer viruses and such. this brought that back but in like, not in a bad way

[@Forlorn_Overseer]

OH MOI GAWDDDDDD NEIL CICIEREGAAAA

[@mechengr1731]

I had a nightmare once about the Cyber Chaser from Scooby Doo...the things that scared us as kids 🤣🤣🤣

[@MugetsuFused]

Why does no one ever knock??

[@characteroftheweek2880]

CasseroleCat I NO RIGHT AND IT SCARY ME AVERE TIME it almost like I am watching word podcast.

[@charliem.1368]

it makes the plot better

[@DrMDHyde]

Only civilized people knock.

[@bluebird9870]

I bet Jon's wondering the same thing

[@joschisaurus182]

There is actually a reason for that. Spoilers for season 3: When he was young, John got in contact with a Leitner book, which was about a spider knocking on doors. The book is the reason he's scared of spiders, and I believe he told everyone at work to never knock on his door because of the book, too.

[@hrani]

I relish the bits between the staff. That was rough but so good

[@lasilla4046]

oh keyboard keys , the forbidden snack

[@frogichuu]

i GoT eAtEn By WoRmS bEcAuSe Of YoU

[@foxthemess518]

Tim cursing out Jon is something I never knew I needed in my life-

[@moriarty1243]

I love how Tessa is babbling about computer nerdy stuff and Jon's just probably politely nodding bc he knows nothing of computers at all, wants to ask her to start the statement but he can't break her throughout lol Also, calling him grampa made me burst into laugher, and I was walking in a crowded street at that moment so people thought I was crazy or something

[@Gitskreig]

Okay, but can anyone tell me why Ushanka loves the great taste of Silicon Crunch?

[@mikeyjoshua1846]

Forbidden crisps

[@frankieghost9902]

silicon toast crunch

[@charliem.1368]

because its part of a complete balanced breakfast!

[@stirrcrazy2704]

This is some FINE computer horror right here. No sonic.exe, no secret gore streams, no HAL 9000. Just some guy eating his computer with no good explanation as to how it works.

[@alex6027]

"Nothing about humanity is binary" Me, an enby: Absolutely correct

[@ByNatA51]

I did.

[@alex6027]

@@ByNatA51 fantastic

[@kirin4455]

Nonbinary people confirmed?!?!

[@kehlcassidy9562]

Ya, I lowkey expected this episode to be about supernatural gender bending.

[@TwoOrdersOfFries]

Bravo, Ive read 10 comments with the exact same joke. We get it. Being nonbinary is your only personality trait.

[@Harleymotor]

Tim being unable to quit despite wanting to and Jon being unable to fire him despite wishing he could really reminds me of when Martin admitted that he couldn't leave; that despite having his life in danger he felt he couldn't quit. Its a very nice bit of subtle foreshadowing.

[@weffle2449]

Ms Winters infodumping for like 5 minutes at the beginning is such a solid mood

[@itsiz9738]

Girl: analog and digital are so different, people can't be digital ect. ect. Me: please stop having a digital existential crisis; it's too late to think about this Girl: Everything you are is in your mind, you have no idea if you're losing yourself Me: ah yes this I can deal with, just a normal Tuesday

[@agnieszkasalach4395]

This has to be my favourite TMA episode. I wouldn't say it's the best one, but I just love it so much. I spent the better part of my early teens (coinciding with the early 2010s) submerged in the world of creeppasta - I wasn't much into it, but my best friend was and I absorbed a ton of it, to the point of it becoming a huge part of my life back then. I'm endlessly impressed at how well the writers managed to capture that feel of late 2000s/early 2010s internet creepy stories. Even the small things, like Sergei's last name - it feels like an idea of a teen creepypasta writer who wants to evoke the whole array of connotations that come with a Russian name (Russia as this foreign place with a very specific flavour of weird and uncanny, Soviet experiments, Russian Sleep Experiment, etc.) but also doesn't know enough about the naming conventions, so they unknowingly end up naming the guy after a hat. Or the video of the man eating his computer, which, yeah, I would totally freak out if I was in that situation, but it's also so goddamn funny to read/listen about? It feels, again, like someone was trying so hard for gruesome and scary that they accidentally ended up on the grotesque side of things. Or the mutable, changing nature of those stories... I legit ended up looking up "sergei ushanka" to see if they didn't actually use an existing creepypasta, because it all fell into place so perfectly, but no, they are apparently just that good. This episode gave me such a surge of weird nostalgia that I didn't even know I had in me. It felt like coming back to a place you used to hang out as a kid and finding it still existing and unchanged. I suppose these are not exactly emotions that you want to evoke with your horror podcast, but damn if it didn't feel great in the strangest way

[@chrono4998]

you put this beautifully. thank you.

[@commonpleasantries1941]

*God* that end bit was tough, I mean I fully agree with both of them but *fuck* man... really good episode

[@SongOFdragon]

The supplemental here reinforced my already strong fondness for TMA. It's not just typical protagonist dealing with mysteries and dangers (alongside his mostly loyal and supportive friends). It's a reality where other people have their own feelings and opinions, and their reaction to your actions might not be always so pleasant. PS. Tim should be like "oooh, so that's why Elias didn't fire you" :D

[@toomany_bones]

Everytime someone gives a statement I imagine Jon starry eyed, cheek resting on palm and fully inveloped into what they're saying. And he's always startled when they're done.

[@moonerz]

1:07 to 5:00 is just me without my adhd meds

[@RoseMultiverse]

Julieta big same

[@Speckaboo]

I have ADHD but I only talk like this when I’m actually getting into the conversation

[@moonerz]

@@Speckaboo yeah, when i'm not interested on the topic i can barely say two words :')

[@tearez13]

mood

[@Arya-el9ps]

I was just zoned out in between and didn't even know when the actual statement started so when I heard a man eating the keys I was like "wtf did I miss"

[@Gmanrocky]

Theres a lot to like about this episode, but my favorite is tessa going on an adhd rant about computers while john just sits there wanting to finish his formal introduction to the statement

[@aesynthi6884]

this is one of the creepiest ones so far for me. i was shuddering the whole time

[@justeundonut-moi.7979]

Same

[@itsiz9738]

the "niche legend" concept of this one reminds me of the Grifter's Bone one.

[@sarahe8459]

I didnt think I'd find an episode that truly scared me because nothing up until this point unnerved me, but this episode scared the shit out of me and i have no idea why

[@scarcovy2607]

Same. I had felt uneasiness, but this one truly had me shaking. I also decided to listen to this at midnight, which didn't help my sleep one bit.

[@kjarakravik4837]

For me I was imagining the pain of thinking in binary code

[@horizonpenblade1288]

Same. I think for me it feels a lot more... close to home than the other statements? Like ive never been skydiving or serious caving or trespassing in an abandoned building, but consuming horror media from the interwebs is literally what im doing right now so it's got that... meta aspect.

[@yeetusdeletus84]

Get my boys some councilling Please Their suffering pains me - Tim and Jon arguing reminded me SO much of my parents it made me feel sick

[@Axius27]

This is the only episode of the entire 183 episodes currently out that has actually scared me. I made the mistake of making this the last one before bed I listened to, and I had to postpone sleep for a whole another episode to actually calm my brain down. So. Technological horror. That's my breaking point. Good to know. Thanks Magnus Archives. I'm going to go microwave my phone now.

[@NowhereButHereAndThere]

Honestly this. The episodes of gore, constantly being watched, or endless Loneliness don't bother me. But the description of the 17 hour video of a guy eating his computer with only his face lit up really got to me. It's the first time I've actually looked around my room to check the dark corners out of fear. So yeah, basic tech horror is my breaking point too.

[@Axius27]

@@NowhereButHereAndThere Honestly, I should have noticed sooner. I used to be really into Five Nights at Freddy's years ago, but I had to start limiting my intake of videos about it because if I was sleep deprived, I would start hallucinating haunted animatronics out of the corner of my eye. Very on brand for that series. Deeply unsettling for tired me.

[@voidmatic]

gOD I live for Tim roasting Jon the turns have tabled oml

[@jaderush4141]

I love how people come to him with complaints and accusations, but in the end Jonnyboi inevitably sweet talks them into forgetting their grudge, and they leave, confused and ashamed, while Jon is murmuring softly into their ear.

[@lorenam2430]

I am honestly more unsettled by the supplemental than the story itself and I think that says enough.

[@dark-harvet4897]

It's so funny how Jon is confused as to how he keeps getting caught recording supplemental statements when it's like... buddy..... I swear there's multiple places you could do that. In a broom closet? In the airtight room that Martin was staying in??? During overtime hours?????? YOUR FLAT???????

[@dannhoff6646]

3:10 SHE DID IT BOYS! SHE DID IT! SHE SAID IT! *airhorn sounds*

[@coraa232]

Everyone: you can’t eat a computer! Some dude: technology go CRONCH

[@anoninunen]

Doctors: You are what you eat Sergei: *Grabs an Apple III and a bottle of Siracha "Finally some good f*cking food"

[@Tristan-M-1]

"There's no feeling but the no feeling hurts" is such a mood, actually. I 'feel' like that a lot.

[@fevre_dream8542]

Congrats on your depression

[@bramstoker1290]

“nothing about humanity is binary” tma said nb rights

[@aimeesmith3505]

As a computer nerd I am high-key excited and lowkey very anxious for the writes understanding of the deep web and such in general

[@aimeesmith3505]

One rant and I'm absolutely smitten

[@-S.L.]

I thought you said "as a computer, I am high-key excited" and thought the crunchy keyboard boys were in town.

[@werewardragon]

You can't turn yourself into a living computer? That's quitter talk.

[@beans_of_jelly]

Just come back to this after hearing TMP 3, forgot how brilliant and freaky this episode is

[@undergnomes6248]

Loved that genuine moment of them both realizing "oh fuck we're in this together"

[@saucevc8353]

Tessa: People aren't binary Non binary people: It's like... I was made for this.

[@Ra_the_Sun_god]

Oh yes as an other enby yes

[@namaschu9418]

Tim moved up on my "needs a hug list"

[@fays.p.5663]

Okay, so I know this was a long time coming for Jon and yaaay Unhinged Tim and an F bomb blah blah. BUT. I got a feeling that after the whole "fuck you" "no fuck YOU" this isn't the archives compelling them to continue working peacefully. I'm pretty sure it's their Englishman sensibilities. That was the most English fight I've ever heard. "Fuck you sir. Now that that's out of the way, I will see you Monday"

[@user-yy7bt6ci3v]

Just at the beginning, but while Ushanka is a type of hat, Yushenko (read similarly) is a real last name!

[@chrisradek6693]

And on the sixty-fifth episode, Jonathon Sims officially became too tired to sass back any longer.

[@Glamiers]

Tim literally said everything everyone was afraid to say he’s so brilliant

[@mxxnlight111]

tim and jon fighting makes me very uncomfortable. its like watching your parents fight while you're in the same room

[@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises]

Damn the change from her confused speech to her clear and clean statement is incredible. There's definitely something going on here (No spoilers please)

[@thomasfenn9017]

It’s so interesting that this plays on the idea that we think of the digital as very “virtual” and far away from us, that if we consume something scary online that we can just click away, and then enter into the digital world ✨elsewhere✨, but we still don’t necessarily realize how ever-present technology is in our lives until we’re confronted by actual horrors. I think that’s neat.

[@bramstoker1290]

“nothing about humanity is binary” nb rights

[@EVind-xz8km]

The supplemental part is amazing all the way through. From Jon being excited over finally being able to access what's on Gertrude's computer, through Tim's EXCELLENT snark and some well-deserved Words to Jon, to the slow horrified realisation that the Archives are somehow preventing them from leaving (Martin was being very literal about being stuck here!).

[@AmandaBear26]

One of the more unsettling episodes, for sure.

[@flying_pig_girl]

As soon as I heard Tessa's voice all I could think was "Holy shit she's _baby_ "

[@yanntautain4616]

Listening to this at past 1am was a terrible idea and i had to take several breaks. Oh boy. Also i feel very sad for Tim

[@Gentou]

Ooh. OOH this was GOLD. The whole thing. HOO BOY.

[@trin-is-late]

"No need to take that tone" mumbles Jon, the soul of discretion

[@giorgiosoverchia3879]

This one sounds like a refreshing oneshot horror story. Also its the right mix of creepy and hilarious, like "mukbang went too far"

[@ErikCeleste]

Came here from ep 1 and 2 of tmagp. I'm going to either cry or laugh so hard.

[@Ares_Complex]

This calm, but terrifying tone of voice of Jons gives me a weird feeling in my chest. Something about how he switches from being an erratic guy with paranoia to a horrifying man who knows too much to stay sane is freaking me out... But that girl made the point, nothing about humanity is binary *non-binary fingerguns* :D

[@aether2kye]

Damn, it musta taken a couple of bytes to eat that all.

[@sams1623]

DAMMIT DUDE WTH. Aaaaaaaa

[@lilalino]

this deserves to be the top comment

[@destructionfad7928]

I’m about a couple years late, but Tessa’s opening statement brings up a strange question. If tape recorder is digital, just like the software it’s supposed to supplement, then why does it work and not the laptop?

[@raskr8137]

Is it a neat detail how Jonathan is very patient with the statement giver even though her statement is virtually impossible to follow up on and doesn't have any useful leads? He just _really_ wants that laptop unlocked and the possibility of angering the statement giver by being doubtful is too much of risk to take

[@pyrosianheir]

I LOVED that opening bit from Tessa about the nature of analog/digital and stuff. That was awesome.

[@gunerius6360]

I think I’m too afraid to look at the tv screen or opening my laptop at this moment

[@smeevca]

But like... our brains do work in binary? A neuron is either firing or it isn't. Sure there's a lot we don't understand about the brain but to say we're as far from a computer as possible seems a bit off. I've taken too many philosophy of the mind courses

[@itsiz9738]

"philosophy of the mind" sounds like a fascinating class that I will now be on the lookout for

[@ateawithfreak8681]

yeah but she's right though about the human brain reactions being inextricably linked to the flesh and impossibility of putting emotions inside the computer with today's technology

[@TheMarkFlanagan]

@@ateawithfreak8681 idk homie as long as it convinces us, that's all that matters. put that code in a convincing enough body and plug in a set of speakers and nobody will be able to tell. sure, it's not human, but it'll think it is in order to convince it's audience

[@ateawithfreak8681]

@@TheMarkFlanagan yeah but that's like not the point point is: human brain cannot be placed in the computer/network without some very radical changes which will make it something very different from human being

[@TheMarkFlanagan]

@@ateawithfreak8681 true dat

[@roxasxiii4454]

This episode broke me. Downloading a "broken program" only for it to take control of any type of screen you look at, featuring a man eating away his keyboard, with the continuous crunching noises, and the blood spilling from his mouth. My imagination tends to have mercy on me by censoring gory or insettling images, but this episode litterarly hacked my mind into watching the real image of what happened. I am both scared, and fascinated by this episode. Hats off to you, Rusty Quill. 🖤

[@lappelduvide2515]

best episode so far

[@itstictac2825]

Damn listening to them arguying is really horrible Tim I'm so sorry you deserve so much better

[@evagrev7351]

My theory from this episode and what we know so far: I was intrigued by the long talk of the witness about the digital and the analog, thinking of it being a forshadowing for something in the future, so I was trying to figure out of what and then it hit me; right here they vaguely explain to us why the supernatural doesn't work with digital machines! The reason is because they work so well! Basically the witness said about the tapes being also digital but they're an older version of digital so we consider them analog, while humans are analog, and now it all makes sense. Digital machines can comprehend the supernatural, they can see it and, most importantly for us, they can hear it! That's why all these cases cannot be recorded in a computer, because, just like with the tapes, there are disturbances while doing the recordings, but because the modern computers are far more able to "catch" all these supernatural sounds, the audio ends up being unrecognisable! While with the tapes, because they're less capable of the modern machines, they can't catch the sounds with the same magnitude as the computers so, in the end, the people talking are still hearable over the weird sounds. That also explains why, in a previous episode about the tunnel under the church, the photographer couldn't see the shadows but his camera could capture them in the photos. And why in that youtuber episode, the witness only saw that woman with the skin off her hand, while in the video John could see two figures. And also why the supernatural can change digital images or videos or audios when the not-people take the place of a person but they couldn't do it in those polaroids, 'cause they couldn't "sync" with that technology that well for them to manipulate it. While the modern digital, because the supernatural can "sync" with them is also why the digital machines can capture the supernatural. I'm sure they'll explain the reasons better in future episodes, but I strongly believe that this episode is forshadowing for this aspect of the story. As for the fight with Tim, so not only there is something that makes people tell their stories how it wants them to be heard, but it also makes the archivists not being able to leave the archives. Interesting how this is only true about the archives, since we've heard other times of people leaving their position (that it wasn't the archive) in the institute for another one. So, it's like with the spider's web manipulation thing, and only way to break free is with the help of something else supernatural.

[@bonesmcgee9620]

as a former CS major, the beginning rant about computers and humans being so far removed from each other is strangely comforting. feels like i "gave up" sometimes on my major when, in reality, im just pivoting to something else that my wet brain enjoys

[@shadowkittycat97]

On my first rewatch and this one is probably my favorite statement in this whole series