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@SJ-zo3lz Жыл бұрын
Kindly bring in Shri Nilesh Oak, Jeevan Rao and Rupa Bhaty.Their's is the most scientific approach. Nilesh Oak 's work is too accurate to be opposed by any scientifically inclined person. Any independent person could understand that the Mahabharata for sure happened in 5561 BCE.
@shalakajoshi4043 Жыл бұрын
Pls read books from P.V. Vartak. Books like Swayambhu, Vaidic kaal ani vedkalnirnay. Its in Marathi. But you would find it interesting. Some of the writer's claim are outrageous but most do warrant further study
@shalakajoshi4043 Жыл бұрын
Pls read books from P.V. Vartak. Books like Swayambhu, Vaidic kaal ani vedkalnirnay. Its in Marathi. But you would find it interesting. Some of the writer's claim are outrageous but most do warrant further study
@simhadri56 Жыл бұрын
She didn't mention Dwarka under water which is a clear archeological evidence of Mahabharatha and she didn't mention that...
@asifanwar9636 Жыл бұрын
🙉🙉🤣🤣🤣🙊🙊🙊👹👺
@ravirajbl1 Жыл бұрын
How was karn born?
@rtchhangte5045 Жыл бұрын
i thought they haven't discovered the city yet. Can you give a link to this discovery?
@shubham8264 Жыл бұрын
They have found a submerged city in the gulf of khambhat. But we are not sure that, that city is in fact Dwaraka. And even if it is Dwaraka, it only proves that the city existed and nothing more.
@untitled6391 Жыл бұрын
They haven't found anything lol There is no underwater city
@advaitkamat1940 Жыл бұрын
She mixed up two stories, the 1 year in Virat where they disguised themselves came after the Vanvas, after the Draupadi Vastraharan. They married Draupadi after they escaped Varnavrat.
@pranavanath Жыл бұрын
rightly said
@grapeshott Жыл бұрын
There are several versions of one Mahabharat also. Exact details may not match even from same Vyasa Mahabharat. And I think she has better understanding of epics than you
@advaitkamat1940 Жыл бұрын
@@grapeshott I don't think she does, I think she has a better understanding of archeology than me. I have studied the Mahabharat quite a bit, there is not one instance or one manuscript where the Agyatvas year came immediately after their escape from Varnavat. It was moronic for her to say that, maybe she said it by mistake. For a credible source check out Ami Ganatra, probably the most credible and rational source to get information on both the epics. You gotta do some research before blindly calling someone out.
@shankares388 Жыл бұрын
@@advaitkamat1940 people also need to understand that the epic is a complete version which is an mix of archelogy, sociology, anthropology, epigraphy, hoplology etc plus modern addition of history, epigenetics, sculptures etc.. there is so much to explore, learn, understand & appreciate it spiritually rather to weaponize the findings.
@sadhanadolly Жыл бұрын
There should be some experienced person on subjects like this.Sudhanshu Trivedi is very good on our cultural knowledge
@sahilmishra6529 Жыл бұрын
Kuch hote he Apne baap ko baap nahi unka hi Halala hota kitne baap Jan hi nahi pate
@notofyourneed5728 Жыл бұрын
O aunty here conversation is about archaeology and the fact she discovered sudhanshu trivedi is not a archeologist, and she is putting facts
@akworldinfo-m9s Жыл бұрын
@@notofyourneed5728 at first learn how to respect your seniors. Be it the person is wrong or may be right.
@grapeshott Жыл бұрын
She has enough field experience. What more experience you want? If you believe in exact historicity of epics, don't come to these channels. If u believe in scientific explanations, then only come.
@pavitraranjanswain4010 Жыл бұрын
So we will have various version of our History. Sudhanshu Trivedi' speech is not for academics or research scholars. Sudhanshu is good for WhatsApp group.
@galaxyuniverse7313 Жыл бұрын
In Nepal, there are also places linked to mahabharat period. Like keechak badh. It is protected by the govt. and there are some archaeological findings as well.
@balamenon4033 Жыл бұрын
I would like to suggest interviewing K K Muhammed - former Regional Director North of ASI. He is an authority on excavations - especially Ayodhya and he is also proficient in Sanskrit. His wisdom and eloquence are needed on these subjects.
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
His name is enough to trigger right wing fanatics
@vinz8081-2 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001Atleast he is educated Unlike the rest of Madrasa community
@brandedbihari2202 Жыл бұрын
I think you should also add a screen ..so when they explain about a place or river system ..you should show the map of India ...people would love that
@aarushthenoobop20073 ай бұрын
theyre clips not edited vids he casually cuts the good parts and adds intro and outro and uploads he doesn't create a separate vid
@kanthu1931 Жыл бұрын
Mahabharata has connections with entire world. Madri, mother of Nakula and Sahadeva is from Spain or Madra Desha, the capital of Spain is "Madrid" Gandhari, mother of Kauravas is from Afghanistan, capital of Afghanistan is Kandhahar (ka and ga are used as alternate pronunciation) Greeks were called Yavana. Genghis Khan is descendant of Karna, it's Kahn, later turned as Khan, he never invaded India, is probably the 5th generation of Karna.
@gauravpatil9536 Жыл бұрын
Fantasy
@madjack9283 Жыл бұрын
Hm interesting
@gouravdey497 Жыл бұрын
Please don't say such garbage.
@kanthu1931 Жыл бұрын
@@gouravdey497 little research and you would agree with me. no need for personal attacks as such. Thanks for understanding.
@gouravdey497 Жыл бұрын
@@kanthu1931 Don't take it as personal attack.... sorry if it seems little harsh..... Actually I want to say sometimes for this kind of things people laugh on us.
@vikrantdagadkar7352 Жыл бұрын
With due respect please don't bring such young Archeologist on discussion of such topics. Lack of experience is clearly visible. There are some archeological evidences that are discovered and she mentioned nothing of that.
@manojkumar-xo6ib Жыл бұрын
and what is that
@princeaugustine1929 Жыл бұрын
I think she is giving her best answer to the best of her knowledge and ability..
@ReligioCritic Жыл бұрын
She did. She mentioned BB Lal who has found evidences.
@yashsonune4391 Жыл бұрын
Kuch nahi logo k ego hurt ho jate h
@sheetalsingh9594 Жыл бұрын
True
@greywolf9341 Жыл бұрын
Time and again I've noticed Ranveer interrupting the speaker before they can answer the main question. She was just about to explain Prof Lal's theory on the mahabharata when he interrupts with childish questions.
@SanjuSanju-me2tn Жыл бұрын
Every show it happens, but he loves it 😂
@yourdad4670 Жыл бұрын
You have to watch Nilesh oak's research...he did fantastic job on ramayan and mahabharat...according to him, mahabharat happened in 5561 BCE.
@dr.e-zone642 Жыл бұрын
taking references from mahabharata for initiating the research and then saying we archaeologists are not sitting here to validate beliefs. Then why the hell you are making a belief a basis of your research?? Ranveer you should have interviewed much more experienced archaeologists to avoid this mayhem she created about mahabharata. archaelogists are excavating dwarka out of the ocean and she is saying we are not here to validate belief???
@untitled6391 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is excavating Dwarka lol There is no underwater city
@dr.e-zone642 Жыл бұрын
@@untitled6391 take the opportunity and bless yourself with lil knowledge and Google
@Bharatglory Жыл бұрын
@@untitled6391 if u want more specific knowledge about Dwarka Excavation then please read the book of Mr. S.R Roa who did the first Marine Archeology excavations.
@untitled6391 Жыл бұрын
@@Bharatglory they had nothing to show for it. A bunch of stones that were not carved or anything and a piece of wood that also wasn't carved. There's literally no evidence.
@spirallydv8 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. She's not up to date
@Ishan.d21 Жыл бұрын
You don't dig people... you dig history 😊
@sahilmishra6529 Жыл бұрын
Kuch Suvar hote he Jo Baap ki nahi mante .Angrejo ka Chatte pite he .guru ki na man Atanki ban fatte he .kal..peda huve sanatan ko gyan lutero ko mahan
@sahilmishra6529 Жыл бұрын
Tere jese hi Osama .Ko .man fat jate he Dhrm ki na man
@mihirdighe2488 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
But history today is a battle of narratives between left and right 😅 everyone wants a history they like to hear
@pepewr11 ай бұрын
@@kalebj7001unfortunately history is written by victors
@youtubestudio2817 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that episodes like this will inspire the young generation to look into such matters and become archealogists that will discover the truth!
@shivprasadjoshi5280 Жыл бұрын
Kindly speak with Nilesh Oak and discuss "archaeo-astronomy" readings from Maharabharat and Ramayan. It would be interesting to get more clarity.
@debayanpal6538 Жыл бұрын
The crap nilesh oak proposes is truly mind boggling.
@kaamdev810 Жыл бұрын
@@debayanpal6538 Absolutely...
@SJ-zo3lz Жыл бұрын
Nilesh Oak 's work is too accurate to be opposed by any scientifically inclined person. Mahabharata for sure happened in 5561 BCE.
@sohamshinde7978 Жыл бұрын
@@SJ-zo3lz no its after 1500
@grapeshott Жыл бұрын
@@sohamshinde7978 Even if it happened in 5000BCE, of course there were no chariots, iron swords, boats, etc at that time. These were all added over thousands of years till Gupta age in 4th century CE
@Koushik610311 ай бұрын
Really good question on Bramhastra, you see it is an astra not a shastra so it means it can only be invoked rather than carrying it around in the quiver.
@adityamarathe1801 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the dumbest discussion I have heard on this channel. Please invite Nilesh Oak if you need factual discussions on archaeology. This conversation feels like two primary school students discussing their history textbook. There's a whole city drowned under the Arabian sea, and yet people call the Mahabharat as "Epic". So did the fiction book writter also construct an underwater city?
@ayushthakur173 Жыл бұрын
Idk why after study something for some years, people start to believing themselves as the supreme intellectual of that field. If u doesn't know it doesn't mean that it was not happened. Everthing is not funny by calling it as fiction or Epic!!
@sunilm6463 Жыл бұрын
Totally, dumbest discussion so far on this channel
@Dikctator Жыл бұрын
It's ok. For people who have just entered into these topics it will be easy to understand. Then eventually they will elevate.
@Jagannath38103 Жыл бұрын
Same bro Nilesh oak 🔥🔥
@Vor567tez Жыл бұрын
For god sake give some respect to her. She is archeologist, has done and seen more than any of us. She didn't got the knowledge just by sitting on mobile. Beside Archeology doesn't work like that. With Astronomy you hv to match up other evidences too. If it was that easy archeologist would hv happily declared every epic and event real.
@debashishpaul8342 Жыл бұрын
Dear Ranveer, May I suggest that you invite only those who are experienced and knowledgeable in their field, and more importantly are excellent speakers (like Mr Rajarshi Nandy). Keep up the good work.
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
Invite an archeologist to discuss Archeology... U won't go to a barber if u want to have a surgery, u go to a surgeon!
@alakh-niranjan Жыл бұрын
There is nothing like "Mahabharata" It's MAHABHARAT Similarly they were Pandav and Kaurav ..not Pandavas and Kauravas.
@snehajagadeesh1650 Жыл бұрын
As you travel to the south of India, in the languages a/am sounds are predominant. Ram is Rama, even Raman, Mahabharat is Mahabharata, Kaurav is Kaurava and Pandav is Pandava. So there is a thing with names ending with 'a'
@AKSHAY6346 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that we expect them to teach us history who pronounce our words like GANGES , Pandavas etc
@Diavol0Krimson Жыл бұрын
Its pronounced like that in sanskrit.
@Nt-nc9ps4 ай бұрын
In South India it is Rama, Mahabharata, Pandava and Kaurava.
@GJALBARR110 ай бұрын
Great interview based on facts and fiction! No effort to be right or wrong only pointing out the facts of what has been found in the layers of cities in time.
@gvijaychandu8720 Жыл бұрын
We should know that Archeologists don't know every thing.. they are still in the basics... GOD BLESS THEM.
@DDTipsy4 ай бұрын
Mahabharata seems to be an epic story based on real events.
@krekar8775 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if it was any other religion with epics like this, more serious research and talks would be there, for context the great Alexander is found nowhere other than in books with no actual evidence in real life, compared to having places with same name, asteroid impact with same location details, etc
@karan.kunwar543 Жыл бұрын
She even doesn't know how to speak and sounds dumb nice of marketing her fake book
@DDTipsy4 ай бұрын
She means that between years 1500 BCE to 500 BCE, the people described in Mahabharata and the people who followed the culture and life described in Mahabharata, lived in the area around Delhi, Haryana and Western UP.
@Chatterbong-travel Жыл бұрын
So basically they didn’t find anything yet. Good luck and thanks for shedding light on this topic
@NaveenSiddareddy11 ай бұрын
history is only valuable when a story is told well with right amount of masala to make kids intrigued. take Basha movie by Rajinikanth .. thats how we Indians entertain! what exactly happened 1000s of years is not of use but what morales can you get from it by using right storytelling tactics.. tribes in deep Indian jungles are not academics but they know the story of Ramayana and Mahabharatha
@rupallodha8967 Жыл бұрын
TRS clips never bores
@gauravpatil9536 Жыл бұрын
Following drushyam movie story, you match time and space, archeologist like fancy name. And you can prove there was vijay salgaonkar was real person.
@krishnanath089 ай бұрын
Dr. Sanjay has also explained the same thing and many more archaeologists aslo
@simhadri56 Жыл бұрын
K .K .Mohammud the archeologist should be invited on such topics
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
U think the right wing fanatics will keep quiet in the comment section on hearing the name?
@simhadri56 Жыл бұрын
@Kaleb J K.K. Muhammad is a genuine archeologist.. I dnt think right wing will have any trouble.. I think u r not aware.. He is an acclaimed expert and right wingers will acknowledge him irrespective of his religion. He is respected already.. He was on archeological researcher n expert on Ram mandir too.. He was hugely offered bribe to facilitate with left wing but stood his ground in his research findings and even threatened.. I salute this man for his sincerity and integrity..
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@simhadri56 bruh his name is Muhammad.. just his name is enough for right wing groups... U know what will happen right?
@simhadri56 Жыл бұрын
@Kaleb J that's the fake narrative politically is sold.. so have you bought..
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@simhadri56 well whether it's fake or not will be decided by the voice of the leaders of the right.. be honest you seriously think the right wing mass will react in a positive manner when they hear the name Muhammad coming to explain about Ayodhya.. just be honest!
@shikhersrivastav Жыл бұрын
It needs a lot better mind & an experienced person for this topic! Tonnes of love & support Ranveer ❤🤘🏻
@kalaichelvan Жыл бұрын
yeah she's just blabbering not even making a point
@sahilmishra6529 Жыл бұрын
Jehadi .Bhi nahi mante the Pak me fat Rahe he Hindu hi Sains Vale Robot
@grapeshott Жыл бұрын
She has field experience. And these knowledge come after years of study with facts. She is not just an armchair politician/religious leader who speaks whatever comes to their minds or whatever is written in scriptures.
@aazadi_baaki_hai10 ай бұрын
@@grapeshott yes😂
@harshpathak7981 Жыл бұрын
Please do the archeological survey on Taj Mahal
@thinakaranteacher93854 ай бұрын
such topics need to be discussed in a forum
@gyulajakabffy1451 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for gifting us a such a wonderful channel
@_kunal_ch_ Жыл бұрын
Another episode in Praveen Mohan's presence , people should know both sides of the coin , through an archaeologist's point of view and through point of view of a person who spent his life around temples and decoding carvings and our history . Just my opinion...
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
Academic background is very important my friend... We will not say i wanna hear the opinion of someone who's not a surgeon when we are talking about surgery.. Archeology requires archeologists... Mythology requires mythologists.. two different academic backgrounds
@abhishekchakraborty6352 Жыл бұрын
Who wants SUDHANSHU TRIVEDI JI on the TRS? I guess we'd get a lot better answers from someone experienced like him.
@ayushthakur173 Жыл бұрын
Bro his lvl is just🔥. I don't think he would come in podcasts like these.
@xyz-le5wh11 ай бұрын
He isn't archeologist
@PrakharBaisakhiyar Жыл бұрын
Its so ironic that archologists are willing to call mahabharata a work of fiction but as soon as you ask them about macca-madina or Christanity etc. Suddenly it becomes a history without any proof. By even saying that you believe Mahabharata as an "epic of family" or "work of fiction", these people are trying to imply that our Holy Scripture Shreemad Bhagwat Geeta is a work of fiction itself. I as a Hindu, will absolutely not tolerate the disrespect of my Holy Scriptures in any way shape or form. Any archologist who are willing to point fingers at Geeta and Mahabharata Scriptures should first of all Give us proof of everything that happened in Bible and and Quran. Where it happened and who did it. As said by themselves that these are more modern religions that came after the Mahabharata period so technically more proof of these so called "Modern Civilisations" should exist right? But the evidences are quite the opposit. So think for yourself what's right and whats not...
@Ali5tan Жыл бұрын
The oldest quran traces back to uthmans reign and remaims in topkapi, there are thousand of hadith and history books from timelines very close to the era of holy prophet. Non muslim sources hv also written about islam during prophets era. Plz dont compare NO proof to this!
@Ali5tan Жыл бұрын
@mrmap4875 first of all i didnt insult ur faith but u did, that shows where u come from. Secondly, the old and new testement is not a part of our faith as we believe they were tampered. Arabic as a language had evolved till then like every other language did but it is preserved since then and the holy book is relevent and the words are still in use. Happy cow day in advance!
@someone-en1gg Жыл бұрын
brother Mohommed was a human and jesus too was a human and they are recent religions thats why they have proofs. as she said mahabharata could have happened but not like it had destructive weapons like bramhastra it could be a work of fiction like any other religion has like jesus walking on water. why are you so fixed on the credibility of text that it happened or not with the same supernatural things wich are told in the text. just learn what message that text is trying to convey and move on. stop getting offended on facts.
@tanukumanohar26219 ай бұрын
Guys.. i have seen in comments in that people already debating/arguing about her knowledge etc ... First if our epics like Ramayan/Mahabharat etc who were written by great sages to that microlevel of details of exact location which she accepted that we still call them with same names.. then cant she accept that there might be great powerful weapons/mantras flying chariots, people flying and forming into gigantic shapes at will was not true? Because probably they would have not have found it yet.... Usually science and religion doesnt go hand in hand.. today they couldnt found it and she doesnt believe it.. 300 yrs down the line probably someone would come up with proofs of these weapons etc and then at that time whether people buy that or not is something we cant predict now.. coz things change... so people who believe in these epics continue to do so and who believe in science they will anyway ignore epics..
@suryaprakashvyas3627 Жыл бұрын
One thing should be noted if settlement at one place is continuous how can you excavate that place. structures and architecture of that place can be modified continuously with time span. The problem of Indian archeologist is, they follow western frame work which is being applied to dead civilization. Western Dristi/frame work is not universal. Archeology is branch to determine existence and age of any settlement at any particular place. But how can it only the way to decide time line of historical events. Archeology is just one tool out of many. Particular civilization demands combinations of different tools. Don't apply western Frame work blindly.
@BangadBilla.. Жыл бұрын
I listen to your amazing shows while going to bed. While listening, my eyes start shutting. But when the video ends, the irritating loud music disturbs the sleep.. pls look after 😊
@sakshamsharma7929 Жыл бұрын
please call J Sai deepak next ranveer bhaiya
@karthi7016 Жыл бұрын
Indians just assume that the people back then from the mahabaratha looked like present day Indians.... Humans are always moving, mixing, conquering, etc... An eg. Is USA in 500 yrs one rarely sees the indigenous people any more.... What would happened Over 5000 yrs
@madjack9283 Жыл бұрын
But they should not disregard it completely saying them as just myths.
@newmemesfile Жыл бұрын
Praveenmohan and archeologist should meet
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
Is Praveen mohan an archeologist? If not then what's the point of the discussion?
@kbrv89 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 why do you care?? Why do you have to reply to everyone's comments here??
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@kbrv89 everyone?? I comment for 7 comments... And there are like 430 comments here.. U been reading every comment to spot mine?? 👀 Why do u care to read so many comments to find me
@godbutcher72 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 lol true😂
@penoge7 ай бұрын
What about the Ramayana, fiction? • What about the similarities of the contemporary circumstances of the time before the great flood, which ended the Tretayuga and simultaniously the Chakshusha Manvantara (!), in the Ramayana and in the 6th chapter of the book of Genesis in the Bible? • What about the similarity between the claim that Rama was an incarnation of Vishnu, who's constellation in the Rigveda is the Orion, and the 6th king of the Old Babylonian Kinglist who's name was "Daonos the shepherd" (he is the only of the ten kings before the flood whom was given an attribute!) which refers to the constellation Orion which is called the shepherd of the Zodiac? • And what about the similarity that the 10th of the kings before the flood who's name was Xiusuthros who was the surviver of the flood according to the Gilgamesh Epic and the Manu Vaivasvata who also survived the flood and according to the Srimad Bhagavatam was king of the Dravidians before he became Manu after the flood? Should all this really should be coincidence? Or Invention? (But there could not be accordance in Inventions).
@ravichandel86909 ай бұрын
if harappan urban starts and mahabharat war is starting then why there is not tangable proof of war not even a single weapon found till date.
@vaibhavawasthii Жыл бұрын
Too qestion the existence of Mahabharata or ramayana is like question your own ancestory.
@manojkumar-xo6ib Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
To question the Greeks about Zeus and Hercules is to question their own ancestry, to question the Norwegian about Thor and Odin is to question their own ancestry.. right?
@vaibhavawasthii Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 Yea same goes with adam & eve
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@vaibhavawasthii yep.. everyone that's in every religious books and cave drawings.. human history is very vast.. tens and thousands of years.. just imagine the number of Gods and goddesses we came up through these time and space..
@vaibhavawasthii Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 yeah most of human history is lost and fragment
@werajokes Жыл бұрын
I would want a person who can actually explain what happened in Mahabharat very precisely... Like one special podcast dedicated to Mahabharata please !
@Spyron_ Жыл бұрын
Then need to do tapasya and Summon Vyasa himself. He can tell you. Our belief system is on one side and our in human experience is on other side in the respective field. She mentioned her deduction as per her work. Thats just add one more perspective to look at the world. Sometime we seek validation against our belief a bit in depth.
@hashtag9990 Жыл бұрын
@@Spyron_ will you take on the task? I can fund your tapasya if needed.
@Spyron_ Жыл бұрын
No thank you, i dont intend to proof something someone myself, its just perspective from different angles@@hashtag9990
@illusion8340 Жыл бұрын
Putting forward ancient indian history ( civilization) in foreign language This really 🤕😔
@marinasharma782 Жыл бұрын
HAR HAR MAHADEV Thankyou Be Blessed
@staymotivated6591 Жыл бұрын
I think you should invite Shudhanshu Trivedi sir on ancient history. She mixed up all those things,she doesn't know anything about Mahabharat.
@grapeshott Жыл бұрын
Good scientific explanation to be understood by common people.
@eraiyanbu4200 Жыл бұрын
We know what ASI did in keezhadi while they unearthed a settlement dating back 600 BCE. They buried it literally, which caused a massive uproar and the 600 BCE was within 6 m deep what will we can find when we go deep. I think she is a part of clan that despise aryan invasion theory.
@kratosnoone5 ай бұрын
Yes spiderman is swinging in new york as it is mentioned in comics. In every story they take real place as reference to connect with people. That doesn't mean that character lived in the place.
@floor4714 Жыл бұрын
Its not epic but history
@manojkumar-xo6ib Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
It's history as much Zeus was history to Greeks, Horus was history to Egyptians, Adam is history to Jews, Thor was history to vikings, etc
@kbrv89 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 and just as much Jesus walking on water!
@pratikgaikwad8452 Жыл бұрын
Need podcast of Nilesh Oak Sir.....he has done reaserch the dating of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana...
@sushilamalanathans5523 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, this discussion was objective without promoting left or right wing views.
@mihirsanghvi9876 Жыл бұрын
10:10 it's wrong info bro They didn't go to Virat after all the lakshagrah shit and stuff but they insted stayed in the forest and eventually won dhrupadi and stuff. They went to Virat for the 1 year of agyatvas(hidding in plain sight)
@ThevijuAtDaeDge Жыл бұрын
She mixed two events into a one. Think how many things this archeologist do mix up to prove their findings.
@jfrog3569Ай бұрын
btw I am nepali and hindu that Mahabharat holds interest, I think we have to be very exact about the time when the scene of a great epic actually happend
@ritantareprises7967 Жыл бұрын
Pandavas were not in Viratnagar after laksha gruha episode, they went to Ekasila
@rajhanssarjepatil5666 Жыл бұрын
Ranveer if you really want to know the actual date of Ramayan and Mahabharat happened then you must take an interview of Mr. Nilesh Oak. Because according to Niesh Sir Ramayan happened before 15000 years and Mahabharat before 7500 years.
@saipraba8775 Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing this information. Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba once said that Ramayana was about 20 thousand years ago and Mahabharata was 10 thousand years ago. I don't know if this time period is based on Vedic calendar or English calendar. I guess it must be based on the Vedic calendar time frame.
@rajhanssarjepatil5666 Жыл бұрын
@@saipraba8775 Mr.Nilesh Sir's research is based on position of stars described in Ramayan and Mahabharat at the time of any particular incident .For e.g. according to Mr. Nilesh Oak the Mahabharat war happened in year 5525 B.C.E.
@saipraba8775 Жыл бұрын
@Rajhans Sarjepatil I see. Thanks for sharing this information.
@kaamdev810 Жыл бұрын
@@saipraba8775 even Sai Baba could be wrong.. if indeed he provided such dates.. the battles on which the whole story of the Mahabharata is based did not happen 3500 years ago ...
@saipraba8775 Жыл бұрын
@@kaamdev810 How did you got 3500 years ago? I guess the date which Sathya Sai Baba provided are base on Vedic Calendar time frame. So we need to calculate 10 years of Vedic calendar and compare that with Gregorian Calendar. Maybe we might get some answers.
@aravindsanthosh334 Жыл бұрын
Ranvir... Kindly see if you can bring in Krishna Udayasankar to this show. She is the author of Aryavarta Chronicles and has authored other works based on mythology.
@sanju34125 ай бұрын
Everyone knows that Mahabharata is an Epic !!
@abhineetjn Жыл бұрын
Over 1000's years geography change dramatically...
@manbirdadwal986411 ай бұрын
I thought that Saraswati Vedic culture preceeded Harappan culture by many millennia
@geraldj9963 Жыл бұрын
I give it 28,000bc. Her writings has to be in line with the "theory of modern man" or it will be labeled as mythology, or fiction.
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
U give it? Who are u? Mr. Indiana Jones the super archeologist?
@kbrv89 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 why do you care?? Why does he have to explain it you?? Are you a super archeologist yourself?
@deeprajdas955510 ай бұрын
How did she know Hastinapur said in Epics used to called Hastinapur back those days? Harappan language we are not able to decode yet. Sanskrit was not language that time.
@shreyasdhond75293 ай бұрын
It was after the Harappan period (bronze age) according to her in the (so iron age) when most of the north Indian subcontinent spoke sanskrit.
@YouCanCookYum Жыл бұрын
6:15 madam you cannot dig Mahabharat people , as Indian people were not Christians or Muslims who would be burried , we return full body to nature and nothings remains there. So ASI was established by Christian people who wanted to create a narrative by their beliefs . Our history is written in puranic texts
@kaamdev810 Жыл бұрын
She was talking about weaponry and other materials used during the great war which was supposed to have taken place...
@YouCanCookYum Жыл бұрын
@@kaamdev810 no buddy she is saying that she digs people . I listen many times . Because ASI looks for remains . And by the way she also tells what’s is culture of ASI . They are not allowed to think beyond certain rules . So they have limitations. This organisation was set up to learn our
@Gameboy1996omen21 күн бұрын
Everyone is saying dwarka dwarka but I'm thinking why did lord Krishna ran away and didn't save dwarka 🌚 he's lord isn't it he can do anything right
@amalxavier51022 күн бұрын
exaclty
@deepcvs2 күн бұрын
A believer's explanation would be that he intended it to happen, it was a part of fate. I would be incliined to believe that Krishna was a mortal himself.
@experimentnation3612 Жыл бұрын
Call someone like Nilesh Oak he is an expert on Mahabharata and it’s time frame
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
This topic was on Archeology.. if it was on mythology surely he'll call him
@experimentnation3612 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 this podcast seems to be talking about the dating of Mahabharata. Nilesh Oak is one of the experts on that subject
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@experimentnation3612 does he use Archeology to date Mahabharat?
@MandarJoshi Жыл бұрын
Archeaology is clearly one branch of estimating the time. Another way is looking at astronomy as described in ancient texts. Stalwarts like Lokmanya Tilak have used this approach.
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
Ur confusing science with pseudoscience here... It's Astrology not astronomy.
@sreeharsh64668 ай бұрын
This channel is the best example of the Dunning-Kruger effect
@Sameer-wy7cy Жыл бұрын
Bro.dwarka have been found.30 years ago my grandma visited dwarka nd said thr is dwarka under sea.i made a joke of her thinking its all story..u cnt mahabharath era sites on mailnlad bec thy are buried deep beneath cities nd large villages now.archeologists speak only whe thy have proof .bt this lady even left out dwarka
@sridhark5663 Жыл бұрын
One cannot prove or disprove our 'Itihasas' using European methodologies like archeology. Descriptions of nuclear explosions and its after-effects in our Itihasas like Ramayana cannot be dismissed as figments of somebody's imaganation.
@EPK257 Жыл бұрын
Sir i would like to say one thing about nuclear weapons or brahmastra...what i came to know about those things in Mahabharata is that "ashwathama misused those weapons for killing a child who's in mother's womb, so lord Krishna destroyed all those weapons to stop the misuse"..
@mr.greengold8236 Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the book?
@yugpanchal7809 Жыл бұрын
yes im also a panchal and i believe that my great great great grandfathers were pandavas which is truth my grand parents also tells about our great great great grandfathers
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather told us we all came out from Africa tens and thousands of years ago.. maybe he was wrong then 🤔
@yugpanchal7809 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 no it's not true u didn't came from Africa u came from india
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@yugpanchal7809 not me... I'm saying our ancestors who's DNA we all carry... Where did our ancestors come from say 60,000 years ago?
@yugpanchal7809 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001then your grandfather was being propagated
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@yugpanchal7809 propagated on what?
@Taxman376_sur Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you taught your students, that harappa and mohenjo daro are just water drainage systems
@gagandeeparora7715 Жыл бұрын
Its vaarnavart not vrnavrat
@amitchhabra999 Жыл бұрын
The current facts according to Archeology are 1.Aria is a province of Iran and previously included parts of India. 2. The greatest and noblest Arian king was Cyrus ('Kuru' in local language) 3. The Indus Valley script has no similarities with Sanskrit but can be related to Brahmi/old Tamil 4. Old Iranian language Avestan is extremely similar to Sanskrit Questions remain: 1. What happened to the Indus Valley civilization? 2. What was the language spoken in Indus Valley and why did it disappear? 3. When/Where did the Vedic Sanskrit civilization begin?
@sushilamalanathans5523 Жыл бұрын
There are good mix of German propaganda added to the Aryan story as well, Any propaganda will have lot of exaggeration. Most times, archaeologist and histories work with one find or one text, it is tough to draw any substantial conclusion based on such findings.
@SanjuSanju-me2tn Жыл бұрын
I think you mixed up script and language s
@niteshchandwani1809 Жыл бұрын
yes many old scripture we find are in brahmi script but about indus valley i want to give you some info that the construction of indus valley city is mentioned in one of our scripture called i think brahmn samhita in that scripture it is written to how to made a perfect city and that is exactly how indus look like and i have many proof too that people live in indus valley definetly follow our culture and about which language they speak see language can vary like me i am a sindhi i speak sindhi but i am a hindu too thats how it varries and indus was not the only civilzation in india at that time
@utkarshraut7536 Жыл бұрын
Since Yadava period there are two scripts to write Marathi, Modi and Devanagari Modi was chosen by Maratha Military because it's faster way to write Same possibility with Bramhmi also. So just by script one cannot make conclusion that there are different races one using Modi and other using Devnagari. Similarly I am from Nag clan but Kshatriy at same time
@ttdx6851 Жыл бұрын
Well noice podcast, I love this type of podcast.
@45hg233 ай бұрын
Admire your work Ranveer
@abhineetjn Жыл бұрын
First misconception-- Mahabharat is a myth... Second -- divine powers, brahmastra,Nd several techniques ,extensive astrological Nd technological knowledge were there. No author can justify it ..
@ravirajbl1 Жыл бұрын
Karn was born biologically or a wish granted by sun
@RishiRajMusa9 ай бұрын
well it's expecting that you won't find a thousands of years old mud cave, it might have been destroyed by rain or earthquakes.
@porismitaborah2703 Жыл бұрын
Pandavs didn't went to virat nagar after the lakshagriha incident , they went to virat nagar during the last year of there 13 years of banbaas after they lost in the dice game. Plz don't give false information if you don't know it .
@kdjoshi726 Жыл бұрын
Mhmm... another crazy theory: What if Mahabharat was actually some kinda pre/old world war? We just know that there was a massive war between let's just say technically advanced humans or either god-like beings. We can sorta connect this to world war too right?
@hanumeshkulkarni4167 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes if possible invite Dr. Shudhanshu Trivedi Sir. His knowledge about our History, culture , Science Technology, on Veda’s , politics …etc ….etc…..etc….etc….etc….is immense
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
Does he have an academic background on Archeology, linguistics, Anthropology or genetics?
@kbrv89 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 are they not supposed to speak on the subject if they don't belong to any of the fields you have mentioned?
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@kbrv89 sure they can speak, opinions don't have any barricade.. but i won't be considering the opinions of a mechanical engineer when i have to undergo a angio transplant ...i would be considering the inputs from a cardiologist... I hope u understand the significance of academic expertise when it's subject matter discussions.
@kbrv89 Жыл бұрын
@@kalebj7001 Nice try with your analogy! But an engineer wouldn't be giving you opinions about a heart procedure anyway. So stop asking about people's credentials if they have an opinion about something!
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
@@kbrv89 exactly my point.. it's irrelevant if an engineer gives advice on something he hasn't had an academic expertise.. so that why u go to a cardiologist for ur heart condition not an engineer.. we need to listen to people from that subject matter expertise.. otherwise even you and I can give lectures 😅
@ziamthamel Жыл бұрын
Give respect to young archeologist... One day she became master in her field like Dr Meenakshi great historian
@s.2697 Жыл бұрын
She is pretty and have good voice nothing else😅
@mitalimithun3 Жыл бұрын
I am not convinced this lady has enough knowledge about the topic of Mahabharata.
@kalebj7001 Жыл бұрын
She's an archeologist not a mythologist
@rajasphadke39955 ай бұрын
Wasnt purana qila known by indraprstha?
@manohars6997 Жыл бұрын
That war is the reason why we are in this state, there is no fiction
@mukundranjan11 Жыл бұрын
Call two people on your podcast. Nilesh Nilkanth Oak and Birendra K Jha
@mundeniks1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like "Very serious topic discuss with school girl" pls find someone who has depth understanding n matured enough to talk on this topic Thanks ...
@TopThings-xm1xg4 ай бұрын
Mahabharat seems like a mix of fiction and reality. For example, the story of Jaidrath Vadh Arjuna had to kill Jaidrath in a way that his head should be dropped in Jaidrath's Father's lap. First of all, it seems impossible to use an arrow that could carry a head and even if assumed at that time, how could Arjuna have found Jaidrath's Father's location. Even if he knew the location then was it guaranteed that his father would be in sitting position at that time. If you use your mind to think about any story of Mahabharat and then it only seems a work of fiction not reality.
@anjalishejwalkar3400 Жыл бұрын
And what if we find the tunnel in future? Or what if the tunnel was created in the laksha gruha itself?
@subbuk971610 ай бұрын
She is like a movie story teller. Is she from bollywood? Should not be from archaeological department.
@prateektripathi2912 Жыл бұрын
If one doesn't find any certain archaeological evidence against any area or place then we turn towards the old literatures and manuscripts to study about the time and space of that particular area! Since the geographical features changes year by year especially in India, we can't right the wrongs or vica versa! India is a country which is based on cultural knowledge and knowledge comes from inheritance and inheritance leads to stories scriptures portraits wars etc . Judging and pointing out the facts just on the grounds of excavations which happened a long time back especially in India is still a very difficult task!
@Indigo280 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion.
@culturemania178 Жыл бұрын
I hope she wouldn't be ban for saying these things about mahabharat