The main issue with raiding in World Of Warcraft

[@theazerothtourist]

personally i feel gearing in WOW is to easy? whats your thoughts?

[@EllionGrey]

Coming from FFXIV where gearing is a small step to enjoying the content, I would love it if gearing was easier than it is. I want to enjoy the raid or dungeons or pvp without worrying about gear

[@davidkim6469]

getting loot from the raid is impossible

[@djere195]

I mean it makes sense for me. Gear shouldn't be a big obstacle in a MMORPG imo. You gear your char in order to do and enjoy content by taking more difficult challenges from time to time.

[@theazerothtourist]

gear is the reward from doing the content. being able to skip phases of boss fights within a week of content launch isnt good balancing.

[@clareashton5027]

the main problem with raids is let's chuck quests that can only be done in raid, great for raiders, not so much for those who actually don't want to raid... oh, and the players who yell 'buff please' then kick you for doing what they asked. What do you want ffs?

[@shakeweller]

Gear from individual content is actually fine. But people can exhaust pvp m+ and raid which is 3x sources of gear. As a raidlogger im screwed rn. Im forced to spam m + to get 4 set which i hate. I think ff14 does it right where gear basicly doesnt exist. I wanna do content i enjoy and not do content i hate to be "ready" for content i actually want to do.

[@db_zero]

I think it’s ignorant to say gearing is easy. The only items that are easy to obtain are tier sets. Outside of tier sets you still must grind RNG gear in raids and dungeons. The drop rate in dungeons just to get a piece of gear is very low, and most of the time is not good stats for your spec. I have done a study on 5 characters and the drop chance for a piece of gear is below around 7%. So, I had to do around 30 dungeons before I got a piece that had the stats I needed, and 8-10 or more just to get a piece of gear to drop. Dungeons take about 20-30 mins to complete on average, so I get a piece of gear every 15 hours of gameplay I get a piece of gear. This low drop chance is echoed by many players that I know. There was a player in shadowlands that did a you tube video on how he did one dungeon to get his bis boots over 200 times and didn’t get the drop. If any player must do 200 attempts on a dungeon and not get a piece of loot, then the loot system is broken. This is because they changed how RNG loot works in M+ by adding an additional loot drop which is gold. The gold chance having a larger percent drop chance than actual pieces of gear. This system is terrible and is not like any other MMO. If you spend 20-30 mins doing content there should be a reward fitting that, I’m not saying give them the piece they need but at least drop a piece of gear. The only people that think gearing is easy are the people that are RNG carried and raid in guilds who distribute the loot evenly. The regular player which 90% of the player base (who are the ones that matter), who pugs runs have a very hard time to gear the way they want, for the spec that they want to play. I say this as someone who is ahead of the curve and keystone hero, so I do play with the top percenters and am being unbiased in this opinion. We need to think from a larger perspective here.

[@theazerothtourist]

if you think going up 20 ilvl a week at the beginning of a raid tier, going from progressing hc one week to skipping whole phases the next.. dinging and by the end of the week being being geared enough to clear HC and start mythic is ignorant... well i think that says it all really. If you dont think you can gear that quickly, you might want to watch some gearing guides.

[@db_zero]

@@theazerothtourist you didnt read my comments well or you dont speak english i guess. Not everyone jumps 20 gear score every week. So dont through that out there as it is normal. Also i said i am keystone hero and ahead of the curve raider, you didnt read that either, so i am geared. So before writing, maybe you should read past the first sentence. Gearing takes lots of hours a week with a broken rng system. This is known in wow. Gear is not given out like candy. Gearing should be easy and simple, like evey other mmo, wow has the one of the worst gearing system for some time now, thats whey the devs keep making changes every expanison.

[@mebrandonb]

It's easier to get SOME pieces of gear in general, but not full bis end game gear. Tier should be easy to get, it often changes how your class plays baseline and shouldn't be some elusive item you're chasing for months on end. As far as "gearing is TOO* easy," even in your opening shot you are running gear 10, 20, 30 item levels lower than what you could get. You're nowhere near done and from how you describe what you do you wont be anytime soon.

[@theazerothtourist]

what do i need to be full bis for? the content doesnt require it when you completely outgear it in a week. They have made it to easy to gear up. if your team can go from progress 1 week to skipping an entire phase the next week and go from no 4 sets in the raid to 90% having 4 set in a week there is something wrong with the ease of getting that gear.

[@Henchmen1]

It's not going to happen there following the path that works for ff14 gear isn't a challenge and I think it's less rewarding but also it's better for casuals witch is there main audience ...

[@theazerothtourist]

I agree although the casuals would likely stick around another month or 2 if they gave it a bit more of a chance.

[@Henchmen1]

Yeah man I just came back so .... I agree the game needs to hit all audiences .. it's not like we don't pay for it it should be able to please everyone

[@tristansmeets6086]

Gearing is still to slow

[@theazerothtourist]

thats crazy you think so.

[@johnniehouston1816]

No, I disagree. I think gearing in dungeons is way way to easy. Most of the dungeons are nerfed down to RFC levels, so people can run them several times to get the gear they want. Gearing from dungeons has never been hard. I've been playing since 2009, and I know it's been easy for them.

[@theazerothtourist]

so you agree then? im saying its to easy to gear up..