The Making of Warhammer | 1st & 2nd Editions: Birth of the Beast

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Jordan Sorcery

Jordan Sorcery

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@chrisherbert9924
@chrisherbert9924 Жыл бұрын
These videos about warhammer is very interesting to watch
@misomiso8228
@misomiso8228 Жыл бұрын
5:57 'Oh and that name Reaper? Don't fear it.' I see what you did there, and I applaud you sir.
@Palooka37
@Palooka37 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making a big song and dance about the legacy of Richard Halliwell. His significance to tabletop wargaming I think is significantly undersung.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Halliwell is so important to Warhammer and Games Workshop being what it became, I think it’s a real shame he’s not more often lauded for his fine work. Especially by GW, who don’t seem to have paid much tribute to him following his passing, which is a disappointment.
@Palooka37
@Palooka37 Жыл бұрын
@@jordansorcery I daresay most of the people in the company that remember him have left it. Have you read much about him?
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Outside of his work, I’ve only read various interviews and blog/forum posts, including some about his later unfortunate struggles. It feels like there’s a real lack of writing about Halliwell, especially given his incredible contributions to the hobby.
@tappajavittu
@tappajavittu Жыл бұрын
Now THIS is what I've been waiting for, youtube is in dire need of more Warhammer fantasy content.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I do my best!
@tappajavittu
@tappajavittu Жыл бұрын
@@jordansorcery You're doing the good work.
@ChillingCrowley
@ChillingCrowley Жыл бұрын
Warhammer fantasy battle 😊
@JEKAZOL
@JEKAZOL Жыл бұрын
We need Dragon Warriors too!
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 Жыл бұрын
of the times when gay wokeshop was still game workshop, that is.
@thewatercyclist
@thewatercyclist Жыл бұрын
I had a copy of Warhammer I in the late 80s. Long since gone to the dark gods of Ebay, sadly. I didn’t know anything about its development so thank you!
@aaroncsantana
@aaroncsantana Жыл бұрын
Thank you KZbin for showing me this video. Incredible work.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I’m glad it found you!
@mikenolan73
@mikenolan73 Жыл бұрын
When I started playing wargames "Reaper" was my first set of fantasy rules - I never played it as the pages of tables/charts melted my little brain. The wargame group I played in were mostly older blokes with Napoleonic / historical armies. They mail ordered their rules/minis from Tabletop Games so I got the Reaper fantasy rules from them as well. I eventually got onboard with WFB in the 4th edition. Those reaper rules are probably hiding in a box somewhere in my parents attic...
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
That’s a great find if it’s still hidden up in the attic! Proper piece of gaming history!
@dfgiuy22
@dfgiuy22 Жыл бұрын
So you are in your 50's at best late 40's storing things in ya parents house? Damn bro, good luck finding it i guess.
@MajorSvenGaming
@MajorSvenGaming Жыл бұрын
This channel is becoming something special. Keep producing content at this level and the KZbin algorithm will eventually tip your way.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly, Major! I’ll keep working whilst the algorithm keeps algorithming!
@jobdoneproductions
@jobdoneproductions Жыл бұрын
This vid just popped into mine so it's being picked up a little bit
@Rob-nq6br
@Rob-nq6br Жыл бұрын
Warhammer originally developed to sell more miniatures? But I thought only Evil New GW did that?! :P Great video as always, can't wait for the rest.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating how much history repeats itself!
@stalker1983
@stalker1983 Жыл бұрын
Well I mean transformers and Gi Joe did it first;) also great video!
@ant4812
@ant4812 Жыл бұрын
The people at the top of the company at the time were gamers making games for gamers, but they were also trying to make a living at the same time.
@cyberleaderandy1
@cyberleaderandy1 8 ай бұрын
Still have my original versions of Warhammer and many of my old ( first series) Skaven figures from the 80s. Great memories of putting on a massive display game at the Derby National wargaming event of Warhammer Fantasy battle 😊 Good times 😊
@adedimberline
@adedimberline Жыл бұрын
Great, great work on putting this together chap.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@johnf.kennedy5454
@johnf.kennedy5454 Ай бұрын
Ral Partha was here in Cincinnati, Ohio. Our friend's house was the place where they were casting those Citadel figures. In your photos, you can see they are in a basement. When my friends moved in they found lots of loose lead figures. I still have one he gave me.
@robodog3571
@robodog3571 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. So well researched and presented. It's so nice to see such a high quality review of this topic. I love how you notice all the things most people wouldn't, it's like you were there
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words!
@stephenoshea3471
@stephenoshea3471 Жыл бұрын
Your channel keeps getting better and better, keep it up!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ll do my best!
@jameswhitehouse5706
@jameswhitehouse5706 Жыл бұрын
These are next level videos. Yes it’s a niche subject but it’s my niche subject. You deserve a lot of success. Keep these videos coming
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
It’s my niche too! Thanks for for the kind words, James!
@stephenjohnston7630
@stephenjohnston7630 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, this; cheers! Someone in our mid-80s RPG group (I've forgotten which of us it was, which gives you an idea of the setup) bought the White Box with that oh-so-seductive cover art and we eagerly set about rolling buckets'o'dice, but the cost (and quantity needed) of the metal miniatures meant we never graduated beyond using the card tokens that came with the Citadel Compendium/Journals, and the 2nd Ed cardstock sets. I think the sub-optimal experience of pushing easily blown-away chits around a table contributed to our rapid abandonment of the game (and indeed the genre), and future Warhammer outings were limited to the highly-regarded FRPG (at least until my son took an interest in 40K roughly 30 years later).
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
The tokens are a fantastic idea, but totally get that in reality they’re not ideal! Can’t beat that 1st Ed art though!
@roberthultz9023
@roberthultz9023 Ай бұрын
10:07 ...The hoplite looking mini #10 "Non-Cultist Adventurer" was a unit leader in my D'nD (ish) Ancient Greek army of mostly Ral Partha and Superior models for many years. He came in a baggie marked "Ral Partha Imports" so the trade at 2:53 worked both ways. I always assumed he was a Runequest knockoff.
@dandepalma9305
@dandepalma9305 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this deep dive into Warhammer and Games Workshop history. I came early to the party but still learned a lot. Your delivery is professional as is production. I look forward to future videos
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it
@pISSUMTREE
@pISSUMTREE Жыл бұрын
great video! I started with 3rd ed warhammer fantasy. A epic campaign with the Blood Bath at orcs drift . We had a large group 4 players ..for each side in the epic campaign. I was only 14 at the time, and the group was full of veterans with hundereds of models and fully painted armies. Castles..epic battle fields ! I was hooked and it started my love of gaming .
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an awesome intro to the hobby! I inherited a 3rd Ed rulebook, but it was 4th that got me started, some amazing times back then!
@pISSUMTREE
@pISSUMTREE Жыл бұрын
I miss blocked infantry..sniffles lol
@DryerFryer
@DryerFryer Жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@intruder313
@intruder313 Жыл бұрын
I am somewhat freaked out: the first mini I ever bought was a lead goblin, in a school playground the early 80s. The seller told me it was a 'Red Goblin' but I had always assumed that was just the colour he'd painted it. I think I just saw a drawing of it here.... Oh and I had not heard of Reaper despite playing Warhammer since the 'white box' and owning it since 2E.
@sterlingnorthum3911
@sterlingnorthum3911 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the old memories. Keep up the great work look forward to your next podcast
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying it!
@robclarke1098
@robclarke1098 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video and a real blast from the past. I was 12 when I played my first Warhammer game and it was the Bloodbath at Orcs drift campaign. Even though I don't play now, I still love all of the fluff and am in the process of seeing if my tired old eyes are still up to painting.
@godofzombi
@godofzombi Жыл бұрын
Interesting how D&D came from a miniature game and Reaper came form a roleplaying game.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
The relationship between TSR, GW, D&D, and Warhammer is so interesting. A lot more levels than it seems!
@MegaKenako
@MegaKenako Жыл бұрын
@@jordansorcery I love how the first D&D book says 'Rules for Fantastic Medieval Wargames Campaigns ...' on the front, while WFB 1st edition says 'Mass Combat Fantasy Roleplaying Games'. The two currently biggest in their respective classes, taking their first steps advertising themselves as the other.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Incredible point!
@rfernandz2001
@rfernandz2001 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive video. I grew up with knowledge of Warhammer - one of the later editions - though I did not play or collect it seriously. But I’ve always wanted a video about the “making of” Warhammer and the early history of GW. PS: I never knew that the Amazons - who are now in Blood Bowl - were in 2nd edition Warhammer!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you! One of the things I love most about GW is how they revisit or homage their older games and ideas! I like seeing how things get reinvented
@ratadron
@ratadron 9 ай бұрын
as im watching this, its announced that Bryan Ansell passed away. RIP to a legend
@jeremiahsafford1389
@jeremiahsafford1389 17 күн бұрын
Ghostly gunners would be a great addition to an undead or eclectic mercenary army.
@a.gjosaether
@a.gjosaether Жыл бұрын
This is great! Can't wait to see more content from you.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying it! There’s plenty more to see!
@haxan6663
@haxan6663 Жыл бұрын
Excellent? A very interesting topic that I really enjoyed. I look forward to seeing more
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, glad you enjoyed it!
@nesbe3174
@nesbe3174 17 күн бұрын
Great video, keep em coming :)
@Sageofthedustypage
@Sageofthedustypage Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 Жыл бұрын
Given that D&D has its roots in a series of "narrative" wargames that included a GM that led to a demand for a game that was more story and less wargame, I find it really interesting that Warhammer has its roots in a desire for more "wargame" in a role-playing envornment.
@toi_techno
@toi_techno Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DareToWonder
@DareToWonder Жыл бұрын
is it true that the space marine was based on the Mobile Infantry from StarshipTroopers?
@nikoladedic6623
@nikoladedic6623 Жыл бұрын
Shame you didn't mention Thistlewood scenario for first edition. It was very first Warhammer scenario present in White Dwarf and has some curiosities. Like dwarves and elves present in the same army and that elves were half-elves, something moved into murky waters of canonicity.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
It’s a fascinating little scenario - lots of fun stuff in there! You can definitely feel the pre-Warhammer freedom of it all
@nikoladedic6623
@nikoladedic6623 Жыл бұрын
​@@jordansorceryComing here back with a new detail, the author of the scenario was Joe Dever. The same author as Lone Wolf series. It seems early GW was filled with authors who wrote choose your own adventures down the line.
@martincann5052
@martincann5052 Жыл бұрын
...Did I see a T-Rex with a sodding saxophone?
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Of course you did!
@martincann5052
@martincann5052 Жыл бұрын
@@jordansorcery Oh good. The Madness hasn't claimed me yet..
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I still wait for the musical dinosaur band to get an army for AoS
@paulyg405
@paulyg405 Жыл бұрын
my favourite from back then is the Fred Astaire tap dancing Eldar dreadnought :P
@bingobongo1615
@bingobongo1615 Жыл бұрын
I have unfortunately never seen anyone play first or second edition warhammer. Anyone knows a link to a battle report or anything? It’s a piece of gaming history that would be nice to see preserved
@simhei95
@simhei95 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ilari90
@ilari90 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the classic "Edition Limerick"
@VainEldritch
@VainEldritch 5 ай бұрын
I love the sense of humor laced through the early army editions - the Slaan being my personal favorite with hilarious South American jungle names like Wotaleot'obottle, Itzadoddle and my personal favorite Ginzmetipple... :D
@ManiakGear
@ManiakGear Жыл бұрын
I will always respect how Warhammer became what it is, but I will also always condemn it for what it has become.
@DaLavenderhillMob
@DaLavenderhillMob 11 ай бұрын
In all honesty I want to thank you for coming along and showing the community what it's all about, love your old skool energy around the hobby, i remember guys like you i was one. You have broadsided every other content curator as far as I'm concerned. The only quibble I have with you and your podcast buddy , and may be interpreting it wrong, but calling certain things questionable as if one couldn't Create a story around historical actions like Rauks drift concerns me. What is questionable? Is it the colonial Overtones? Now obviously if there an underlying hateful connotation I get it, but kinda feels like you're overly cagey
@thebatt6183
@thebatt6183 Жыл бұрын
The beginning
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 Жыл бұрын
3rd and 4th edition where the best
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Magnificent, both
@AD-on3zx
@AD-on3zx Жыл бұрын
"these dwarves are Even doomder"
@skavenmatt3904
@skavenmatt3904 Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown man, such a shame they destroyed all that legacy with the fisher price production of age of sigmar 😞
@vizjereigaucho6469
@vizjereigaucho6469 Жыл бұрын
ABC
@robertpittam59
@robertpittam59 Жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed. All fluff and no crunch. I played 4th edition back in the day and after watching this have absolutely no idea how the gameplay of the first 2 editions was different. Stats, phases, victory conditions etc. Interesting as it is learning how the setting and armies developed you are missing a massive part of the game. The actual rules.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
That’s a fair point. I’ve avoided getting too detailed with rules as this is very much a making of the games, with a focus on the people involved and the context of the design decisions. There’s some rules coverage in part two, but a detailed look at the rules of each edition and how they’ve changed over time is a different beast and would warrant a full video series all to itself!
@joel6376
@joel6376 Жыл бұрын
The writer for a primarily d&d publication saying it is bad (when d&d has mass combat rules and essentially seems to be what they were going for) is of course going to poo poo it.
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 Жыл бұрын
Army lists were a lazyness that also destroyed 40k made for worthless players that can't be bothered to read and design their own units
@Basil_Ghothickovitch
@Basil_Ghothickovitch Жыл бұрын
It always makes me laugh when they tell me what a "fantasy old world" was so alive and realistic! Or even worse: how great it would be to make an MMORPG in the old world, it would be a geat success! ha ha ha! There was already Warhammer Online which was very epic and failed completely. "Fans of fantasy" completely ignored it, did not support it with money. Like all fantasy tabletop in general. Unlike me, I paid a subscription to Warhammer Online every month for years. But now I am extremely sad for the money wasted in those years. I also play a lot of Vermintide now, but I never thought of it as a fantasy game. This is the End Times adventure, so it is already part of Age of Sigmar.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I didn’t play Warhammer Online, but it looked a lot closer to World of Warcraft in play style than an adventure I’d want to have in the Warhammer World. I can still imagine a great Old World set video game. Shadow of the Horned Rat already proved to me it could be done!
@toxicmail1482
@toxicmail1482 Жыл бұрын
When you say "questionable jokes", I immediately think "actual humor and not woke garbage".
@SunburntHands
@SunburntHands Жыл бұрын
These videos are like a warm bath.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
That’s very nice of you to say! Unless you’re a cold showers person!
@mattcunnington1972
@mattcunnington1972 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Terror of the Lichemaster was a great scenario, and I was glad it got ported to WFRP. Forgot how Games Workshp would give you the cardboard figures if you didn't have the minatures.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! The old token sets were so great
@kokake55
@kokake55 Жыл бұрын
I would possibly parrot someone here, but this is history of Warhammer I have been looking for.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I’m very glad!
@rp7155
@rp7155 Жыл бұрын
Same! I’m loving these videos 👏
@EdBurke37
@EdBurke37 Жыл бұрын
As a Dresden Files fan i always do a double take when i hear mention of Heinrich Kemler. Jim Butcher must be a big gw fan.
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener Жыл бұрын
I was fascinated by this subject several years ago and looked into it for myself. What struck me about these early games were just how homemade they feel. They seem to be typed on an early home computer, illustrated with pens and xeroxed at a local shop. It really reminds me of the DIY of late 70's punk and postpunk. Today's games are so corporatized and slick, which results in ultra-professional products. But the fingerprints of the creators are long gone. It's just a completely different vibe now and it'll probably never be like this ever again. I guess it comes down to English culture of the 70s and 80s. It's a time and place that I've always wished I could've been a part of. I came to the game in 1994 after most of these creators were gone. But we did have a copy of WH fantasy role-play first edition. There was a piece of all this in that book and I thought "God, what have I JUST missed?!"
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
That first edition was literally typed by Rick Priestley on his mum’s typesetter! I think you’re right in a lot of ways, especially with how powerful and accessible editing and graphics software is now. That said, there’s still a lot of great indie stuff floating around online - I’m definitely in a best of both worlds camp!
@thewatercyclist
@thewatercyclist Жыл бұрын
I’m old enough to remember those days - computers and printers were really clunky, printing anything was slow and expensive and as for colour? That’s what coloured paper was for, just don’t have ambitions beyond two-tone. But hey, the pen-and-ink illustrators - particularly John Blanche - created amazing worlds and characters. While I am quite nostalgic about early GW and Fighting Fantasy- what I think we all wanted in our imaginations was the Witcher 3, but our young selves would have to wait 20-30 years for that…
@dfgiuy22
@dfgiuy22 Жыл бұрын
March of progress champ. I am sure that people that made games without photocopiers [xerox], typewriters and pen, pencils and abudance of paper said the same thing about monks using feathers and ink on scrolls.
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener Жыл бұрын
Game design, printing, illustration, it's all come very far and is definitely "better", but it's a bit apples and oranges for me. I think we all have to agree we have a more ideal situation with our fantasy products. This is where it was always destined to go. Still, there's something about the humbleness (maybe quaintness?) of these early productions. Wizards haven't had pointy hats, long beards and star patterned robes in a really long time and a big part of me misses them.
@StormofSteelWargaming
@StormofSteelWargaming Жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying your videos, but just one point, Rik Priestly has an archaeology degree, not a history degree.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
A very good point, thanks for the correction - have noted it in the video description.
@StormofSteelWargaming
@StormofSteelWargaming Жыл бұрын
@jordansorcery I'm only pedantic about it cos I have one as well! Been really enjoying the videos and deep dive into the history!
@gabrielwalton4097
@gabrielwalton4097 Жыл бұрын
I really love seeing the old school look of early Warhammer, even if the game itself wasn't super polished, the aesthetic is pretty great!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, some fantastic and inspiring art throughout the early books!
@thrillingsuspensefantasy
@thrillingsuspensefantasy Жыл бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Excellent, I’m glad!
@Jackalblade9
@Jackalblade9 Жыл бұрын
This comment is mostly to feed the lost god of Chaos; Algo'rithm, as my ability to remark meaningfully on either of these first two editions is nil. So I will just say thank you for providing such a great historical look at an immortal and classic game! Looking forward to the next one!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Your sacrifice is gratefully received in the name of Algo’rithm!
@TheShauntrainor
@TheShauntrainor Жыл бұрын
What on earth is going on? I leave the country for two days, and by the time I've got a local Sim card sorted, Jordan Sorcery has dropped TWO amazing videos on WHFB!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Sometimes inspiration just strikes!
@undyinglight
@undyinglight Жыл бұрын
Dude great video man! This legit inspired me to make a history video on Battletech!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@TheSirSpence
@TheSirSpence Жыл бұрын
I did not expect to see minis I played with in this video, as I started in the early to mid 90s.... But those Orcs.
@m00nk7d
@m00nk7d Жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed this content! Watching whilst painting my Bloodbowl mini's lol...
@jacobjonsson8335
@jacobjonsson8335 Жыл бұрын
The amount of humor and fun in the early editions makes it so easy to understand how it got so popular. Thanks for a nice video!
@reecemccullough4829
@reecemccullough4829 Жыл бұрын
Partway through. Very enjoyable thus far.
@DareToWonder
@DareToWonder Жыл бұрын
you're chanel is doing great for being around for such a relativly short time, bravo!
@davidbrown4849
@davidbrown4849 Жыл бұрын
I can imagine the work needed to craft this history. Well done. The early events reflect my first days in gaming - where my big brother's gang were into home-brew D&D and extended / blended it into home-brew mass battles. We are talking the mid 70s onward and they home-brewed because D&D wasn't really available in Australia but they somehow heard about it and got enough of the idea to make the rest up. I play more historical than fantasy, and didn't know N Stillman was that involved in GW - his name is known to many ancients gamers. I play no GW games (I use some of their older figs) but found this fascinating.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@heirwolf6929
@heirwolf6929 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, fascinating with all the nerdy little details.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jackmcleod869
@jackmcleod869 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and am already enthralled. Been into WH as an outsider since 1999, started to hang out with people who played in 2006 and, finally became an eternal lore need and player in 2020. It's so cool to see videos like this
@housewife2000
@housewife2000 Жыл бұрын
Another cracking video - enlightening and entertaining in equal measure. Loved the shout out the Hal, and to the artists who defined these early editions. They were all frontiersmen and trailblazers.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Indeed they were! The creative team did outstanding work through that era, and beyond tbf, but it was a real moment in time
@Thoughtsmith
@Thoughtsmith Жыл бұрын
Wow, that Asgard logo coulda got them pretty heavily sued.
@MiniatureRealms
@MiniatureRealms Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic, can’t wait for the rest 🙂
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen Жыл бұрын
Wonderful nostalgia fest, takes me back 40 years in the blink of an eye. Nice one, Jordan. Subscribed. Ah, man, just seeing that original white box edition, and the covers of the 3 booklets... Takes me back to nights under the blankets, reading them with a torch when I was supposed to be asleep. John Blanche was always my favourite artist, loved him since he did the cover for Steve Jackson's Shamutanti Hills.
@godofzombi
@godofzombi Жыл бұрын
16:16 Yay! Collin!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
What a lad!
@steveblunden2295
@steveblunden2295 Жыл бұрын
Boy did this video bring back some memories. And I still remember reading the Citadel Compendiums and Journals, and the article on building an Inn - especially as Bugman's Brewery. And not forgetting Kaleb Daark and the 5th Chaos god who hated the other Chaos gods, Malal ....
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I touch on Malal briefly in part two, though it’s probably deserving of a deep dive alongside all the Realm of Chaos details - so much fascinating history behind those books!
@Mr_Waffle.
@Mr_Waffle. Жыл бұрын
29:10 GW are cowards if they don't release a T-Rex playing a sax and an AK-47 Ork for Warhammer The Old World... fantastic video!!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Hard agree
@elvyler
@elvyler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great breakdown. Looking forward to part 2!
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@mateusbiazotto
@mateusbiazotto Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. Oh, and btw, that Grateful Dead reference was sneaky AF
@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117
@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117 Жыл бұрын
doing a review of Reaper would probably be a good anniversary vid, I can't find a copy or pdf of it anywhere online
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
It does seem to be underrepresented online. A demo game or battle retort using Reaper rules and Asgard miniatures is an idea I’d like to give some proper thought!
@MonsterPainter
@MonsterPainter Жыл бұрын
very solid account of the origins of WHFB
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianmccord8106
@brianmccord8106 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this documentary! :) & the TRex with a Saxophone! Heck Yeah
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Absolutely my pleasure - I’ll do anything to get more people talking about T-Sax!
@theodorosgeorgitsis5600
@theodorosgeorgitsis5600 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video! Can't wait for the new warhammer fantasy game to come out.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You and me both!
@whitewolf44a
@whitewolf44a Жыл бұрын
3:36 CAT CAT CAT
@joepineapples9744
@joepineapples9744 Жыл бұрын
My dad is great friends with Tony Yates, the artist you mentioned and he was a masterful DM back in the 80s, I have fantastic memories of some amazing adventures we played, also as I was getting into gaming in the early mid 80s it was Tony himself who taught me how to paint minis, which I am still doing to this day. Great times, and it was great to hear his name mentioned in the video 👍👍👍
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I’m only sorry I couldn’t find more specific information about Tony Yates’ involvement as I couldn’t do much more than call out his contribution. He is a wonderful artist, and a true shadowking!
@joepineapples9744
@joepineapples9744 Жыл бұрын
@jordansorcery hi, it was great to hear him mentioned, he now lives in worksop,Nottingham with an ever growing family, he started out as an artist from college and he was good friends with Bryan Ansell, they wargamed together for some years and when citadel started up Tony did a hell of a lot of concept art for there miniatures, back then we used to go with Tony to citadel miniatures and you could purchase models straight from cast, and get all the upcoming models....yeah its who you know!!!! But yeah, thank you for his mention, and I look forward to your next KZbin video
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an amazing time! I’m glad Mr. Yates is doing well!
@leanderkolen
@leanderkolen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for all this! Do you have a website to be in touch businesswise?
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery 8 ай бұрын
I do indeed - jordansorcery (dot) com or you can email me directly at itsjordansorcery (at) gmail (dot) com
@brucemcbain3150
@brucemcbain3150 Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly worthwhile to see the origins of the game, the people, and the process. It was a treat!
@73ebb
@73ebb Жыл бұрын
Fantastic series of videos. Subscribed immediately.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nicholasg8623
@nicholasg8623 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you for this. This series is excellent so far. Keep it up.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you’re liking it!
@alex-c7567
@alex-c7567 Жыл бұрын
They should give credit to the modern day sculptors.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. The fact that none of the books, games, or models get fully credited to the creatives behind them is pretty poor I think
@mikenolan73
@mikenolan73 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say I feel the very same about Richard Haliwell thanks to his incredible design of Space Hulk.
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
A game design Titan, no doubt about it
@Nada-Mal
@Nada-Mal Жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thanks! My start in the hobby, like many, was via HeroQuest (1989?), then I got Space Crusade, which led me into 40K around 1993. I didn’t get into WFB until 5th edition, 97 or 98 I can’t remember, but I loved WFB and when 40K went to 3rd edition I quit 40K and solely played WFB. I still have all my WFB minis and have dusted them off in anticipation of The Old World.
@imkycarsten
@imkycarsten Жыл бұрын
Love this series. I only played WFB a bit during third edition (High Elves), so all of this is relatively new to me. Also, kinda cool, that the game started as a miniature agnostic game 😮
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
I’m glad! It’s fascinating how much has changed as well as just how much has stayed the same!
@kerel995
@kerel995 Жыл бұрын
Quick prop thumbup. Good channel
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nuttyknatty
@nuttyknatty Жыл бұрын
Another great video! Wonderfully detailed! One thing I’d love to see (as I didn’t get into WFB until the 4th edition) is an actual game being played of these earlier editions. I struggle to ‘see’ how this early games would have looked and a brief demo would be really unique. 😍
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been giving some thought to demos or battle retorts of older editions - no guarantees, but it’s an idea!
@HarryTaylor91
@HarryTaylor91 Жыл бұрын
Just getting back into Warhammer after 20 years away, got myself a couple of sets from Sigmar. After watching this first video I've gone onto Ebay to buy loads of old White Dwarfs haha. Great video, can't wait to watch the rest.
@Stonehorn
@Stonehorn 10 ай бұрын
Warhammer Fantasy Battle is the most interesting game ever made, period. Im not saying its the most balanced, and its certainly not the easiest, but it’s so, so much more interesting than anything they make today. I started playing WFB in late 1992, with the 4th Ed box set, my friend and I each got one, and traded opposite halves. I took the High Elves, he took the Orks and Goblins. We slowly added units by saving lunch money and asking for sets for birthdays. We built a beautiful table in my parents basement in high school. Perfectly flocked, moveable terrain, a castle that could be put either in the corners or on the table edge for narrative games. It took 4 of us a month with my father’s help in his wood shop. We played hundreds of games on that table from grade 7-12. We still play today. Mostly 6th Edition and WAP, with a little 8ed, pre End Times, when we can all get together.
@ant4812
@ant4812 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video. I will now throw a couple of admittedly rather small sticks at it. Hi. I'm one of those who might not have been playing this game for the full 40 years, I had a bit of an interval from the early nineties to the early noughties. I discovered girls, motorcycles & err..substances. I came to Warhammer from 15mm Napoleonics & Ancients back in '84 with WFB 2nd.ed. I can't remember anyone at the club I went to at the time playing 1st.ed. Second edition, before the lists came out was the most fun version of the game as I remember. Ravening Hordes didn't come out until April-May 1987, so we were waiting a long time for lists, especially when you consider that 3rd.edition came out only nine months later! Actually, in point of time, RH was the last thing that was written for 2nd.ed. The three scenario boxes & the building pack came first. There were no ghosts with blunderbusses in RH! You could give up to ten of your skellie archers blunderbusses however. In one campaign I played in I had to face an undead army with cannons - that had previously belonged to me! I'm lucky enough to still have everything that was written for 2nd. & 3rd. editions. I'm presently looking for a copy of 1st.ed, and FoF; I always wanted to try playing it. I still play 3rd.ed. regularly. Sometimes a mate & me will go down to the local game store and do a demo game of Oldhammer with 80's figures. The young 'uns generally seem to be impressed by things like 300 indivdual goblins, each one different from the others. 3rd.ed. was the end of it for me for a while, not just for the above reasons. I didn't like the 4th.ed. rules. I didn't like the scale creep, or the way the quality of the sculpting was going. I didn't like the corporate takeover, or whatever it was when Tom Kirby took over either. That was the point at which I walked away from the game until Mordheim, and later, 6th.ed.came out. I must go watch your episode on 3rd. edition now! Subbed!
@user-ii1iy8fz1d
@user-ii1iy8fz1d Жыл бұрын
Hair game strong.
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