My very first foray into Warhammer was right at the tail end of 5th Edition Warhammer Fantasy with an Empire army. I still have many of the miniatures today, the quality of the painting is best left unsaid.

This was fantastic thanks JS

I’m sure modern GW don’t want to advertise they once named a character after Sven Hassel 😂

I missed out on learning about all this until it was already much too late in the 90s so thanks for filling in my blanks 😉 immersive

...Gondor as the Normands and the Vikings ? If you follow the movies' version at least they're very firmly Roman inspired

What a great video Jordan, I’m just assembling my Imperial Dwarfs while I listen to this, I hope you’ll do more in this series for each army, great listening to the history of it all, cheers

I loved the roundup, thanks for the fantastic work

Brilliant videos! I have a feeling for your audiance much of your videos could go on as long as you have material the the will to do it! 😊 Do you think you will go into more lore from the other armies in the same way?

37:22 Or his double, depending on how the Enemy Within oficially ennded... I remember that making a lot of WFB players who weren't into WFRP being really annoyed by that.

Amazing. Please do a Tilea & Dogs of War video 🙏🏻

Came in for the Empire. Stayed for Martha ❤

Hi Mr Jordan. I have not been watching your videos lately but I felt the need to view this one. A lovely look into a part of Warhammer we knew and loved, but now understand why the "Old World" had to fall. No one would collect and paint such a vibrant but chaotic mix of models as a beginer. Futuristic space knights sell better, even ones that are Vikings with an affinity for wolves. Thank you for this video.

Current cost is $130 😬

Great video dude.

enchanting as ever, continue

Are you going to do a video about tomb kings or the undead in general?

Absolutely loved this. But clearly, 47 minutes isn’t nearly enough!

Bretonnian = Hundred Years War French, cannons and all! 👍🏻🎅👍🏻

Martha is a precious little soul! 😺

Thank you to spanish translator

I'm sad the Engineer on Mechanical Steed didn't make a comeback in The Old World, especially since the Arcane Journal has a whole army list focused on Nuln! Also, just a nugget of heraldic information: I know you didn't mention the first demi-gryph from Forge World with its... anatomical correctness, but that was a nod to the fact that a wingless griffon/gryphon in heraldry is generally referred to as "a male griffon" - a demi-griffon would technically be the top half of a griffon divided at the waist. :)

lovely summary!

I prefer the empire of man as the poster faction of WHF to the imperium being the poster faction of 40k. While the empire is a mess in the lore and things are bad there's the vibe that there are heroes who are trying to make a difference even if it's a small one. The imperium is just too messed up that them being the poster factions and having the space marines described as heroes feels narratively dissonant (I say this all as a 40k lover)

Great retrospective, thanks! Lots of nostalgia. I feel a new Talabecland army coming on... my poor wallet...

Jordan, can I ask you a random question: did you used to have videos up on the WHFB campaign packs or am I going stark raving loony? understand if you weren't happy with them but please reassure me of my grip on reality if it is indeed possible. great vid btw.

I dream of a day in which cathay nippon and ind were developed as they did back then.

Are you from the black country?

Hello, beautiful video on the evolution of the empire in Warhammer , my compliments 🔥🔥🔥👏👏🙂👍 But I have to add this: In the setting of "The Lord of the rings" for me, the ispiration for Gondor it's more like the roman empire by the fourth/fifth century a.C. and the first period of the byzantine history. And not normans and vikings. And Rohan it's like the Saxon mixed with the Alans, the Sarmatians or the Goth. 🙂

My favorite faction! ❤ I need to mention that I've heard that Gondor is more like Byzantine Empire than anything else, may be wrong but I like that perspective. 😊

Jordan, you are doing true work in this space that I find personally valuable and gratifying. You are a historian of this space, doing important work to capture a magical period in creativity and entertainment.

Voltaire's quote was more of a tongue in cheek jab and less of serious historical analysis. The HRE had been holy, in the sense that it was the only Papal sanctioned empire successor to Rome, and for this reason it was Roman too, in the sense of Roman Catholic, and heir to Roman administrative legacy and even its civilizational destiny. And it was an Empire, in the pure sense of its word, imperium, because it had theorical dominion over all Christian kings (imperium means reach of power, in legal Roman terms the power over life and death). But it was not an empire in the more colloquial sense (a conquering, unified, absolute state), it was not Roman or Holy in the eyes of Voltaire because it had lost all influence and power it had had over Europe and even Germany. Voltaire knew all that, unfortunately pop history just passee on his quote without further thought. Most of the "not an Empire" characteristics of the HRE came to be with the Golden Bull in the mid 14th Century, after a period of steep loss if power and prestige of the Imperial crown, mostly due to the Hohenstaufen dynasty neglecting Germany and then losing the crown in different crisis in the late 13th. Before that, the HRE was arguably as centralised (or decentralised) as any other feudal kingdom in Europe. Certainly more than France.

Thanks for a great deep dive. So much info. Squeak-squeak! 🤩🐀🌠

Fantastic and original stuff, Jordan. I especially liked your thoughts on the Empire being the default for the setting, but not the starter army in the same way Space Marines are for Warty Thou. I do miss the variety available to The Empire. Especially the Kiskev units and especially the Tzarina and her ice powers.

Another great delve into something I know nothing about, thank you Martha!!!

See, thanks to your video and Stuart’s painting guides on the models, I now really want to start an Empire army! Will no one think of the wallets?! 😂

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The Flaggelents were actually a historical thing. I remember being blown out whem I discovered thiat uni

Very nice.

This was a fantastic video Jordan! Really captivating and fun to watch from beginning to end! I'm an oldhammer type but never played fantasy battle but it was always fun to watch the impressive evolution of the Empire from the sidelines. I secretly always wanted some of those crazy large piece battle vehicles and knights on griffins and the like. Is there going to be a part 2 to this video?

awesome

Hey there Martha! She's the real star of this channel. And I think she knows it. Thanks for the share!!

You must have forgotten Battlemasters.

Border Princes, FTW!!! Question- are the new "Old World" minis the reprints of the 8th edition ones, just with new bases, or are they all updated with 33-35mm figures?

A great exploration of the history of the Empire, I enjoyed it very much. Your pronounciation of the troups is completely fine. It is interesting how You pronounce the names.

I keep hearing Richard Halliwell again and again on different streams. It would be great to do a video on him, maybe get some people who knew him or worked with him. He seemed to be quite a character, motorcycling across the world for months on end etc.

The timeline of the Empire always baffled me. If we assume Sigmar = JC/Arminius in our own timeline (and the Sigmar novels bare this out) then 1IC is roughly equal to our 1AD, give or take a few decades. How, then is reign of Karl Franz II at 2502, when technologically, culturally, they are around our year 1600Ad? How did they stagnate over a thousand years of potential progress?

The Bar Brawl i remember was about dwarfs, not orks, but the board that came in the WD is the same. I cannot remember what WD issue was.

Quality video mate. Very nostalgic!