The MAM Journals-Kawasaki Z650RS. Is it a good retro?

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Michael Mam

Michael Mam

Күн бұрын

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@genegoodwin8925
@genegoodwin8925 Жыл бұрын
I like the paralllel twin because I don't need a four cylinder or the extra power. I've owned four cylinder bikes, one 900cc which was the quickest bike I've ever owned. But at my age I find the 650 to be plenty of power. It seems when I ride a bike with 100 plus hp I have a disconnect between my brian and my throttle hand. So if I want to live longer it is best for me to stay with the 650.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have worked out what is right for you which , ultimately is what choice is all about 👍
@johndavis2399
@johndavis2399 2 ай бұрын
"The pipes look like a plumber did it after a bad night out" 👍
@foxmoongaze
@foxmoongaze 6 сағат бұрын
As someone who hates polishing and cleaning, it's almost perfect to me. It's got the looks, and maybe the vibe, without the worry of spokes, lots of chrome and countless nooks and crannies. I could take it out in all weathers without worry 🙂
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 6 сағат бұрын
@@foxmoongaze if you aren’t keen on cleaning I would avoid salted roads ..
@foxmoongaze
@foxmoongaze 4 сағат бұрын
@@michaelmam I'm OK with the hose, bucket and sponge, but yes, I'd always recommend avoiding salted roads if possible.
@kenschauer3781
@kenschauer3781 7 ай бұрын
I just bought one in December 2023. It's a lot of fun. It's got some quirks like any bike but none that really bother me. I don't have vibration problems at all. It feels very light, handles great, great brakes and looks super cool. The main thing I like is even in 5th gear you have gobs of power when you open the throttle. Faster than I want to go...They are a little pricey but a great overall bike..No regrets here!
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 7 ай бұрын
If you are happy , that is all that matters . Have fun ..
@RobertWilliams-oy9qk
@RobertWilliams-oy9qk Жыл бұрын
Thank you Micheal for another comprehensive and entertaining review. Enjoy your summer and ride safe!
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert . And you!
@christophertyacke6019
@christophertyacke6019 Жыл бұрын
I bought a the Z650rs in June of this year, it's perfect for how it's designed be. I had a 79 650sr with the 4 cylinders and a fairing, also a nice bike for it's designed purpose. Great japanese design and engineering that never lets me down. That was a fair and honest review of the Z650, like many I watched Pryor to my choice, the Honda CB650r was my 2nd choice.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that you are happy with your bike 👍
@kalnwi2023
@kalnwi2023 Жыл бұрын
I love this bikes as much as I can without even sitting on it yet.
@fuglbird
@fuglbird 9 күн бұрын
The Z650RS is better looking than all modern motorcycles. I prefer the SV650. It's not as pretty but has a 25 year old history of its own. It's not a remake and works very nicely. Thank you. They are very practical too and you can find them used at a reasonable price.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 9 күн бұрын
@@fuglbird I agree in many ways . The Z650RS , particularly in the green , is a great looking bike . The Suzuki 650 VTwin , an excellent, well proven and reliable ,engine 👍
@TheChrysler56
@TheChrysler56 Жыл бұрын
Another good video review Michael. This 650 is ideal for commuting and just stead pottering on a nice sunny day.
@paulmccabe2966
@paulmccabe2966 9 ай бұрын
I love the colour
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 9 ай бұрын
I did too . A classic Kawasaki colour ..
@morbid1.
@morbid1. 6 ай бұрын
this Kawa looks so good... it's like the best balance of modern and old school
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 6 ай бұрын
If it rode as well as it looked, they would be flying out of the door .
@widester1000
@widester1000 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael. Love the looks of this bike. Nearly purchased when it came out even with the cheaper interceptor parked beside it. Ended up going for a larger Cc.
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful review especially with your historical account of your 4 cylinder 650. The info on older bikes gives me a good reference point which i can relate too. Sometimes i think i should have kept my R6 and i wouldn't be looking for a bike now. I did have good memories of my 79 SR650 and zx10.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Personally I often remember bikes as being faster and better handling than they prove to be when I ride them now . Engine , chassis , tyre and brake technology has come such a long way . I enjoy both but if I am trying to "make good progress " the new ones feel a lot safer😂 ZX10 was a weapon in its day ...
@quentinjackson6015
@quentinjackson6015 Жыл бұрын
Can a bike be art? I think the Z900RS is perhaps as close as it gets. I had a Honda 400/4 back in the day and those pipes were a thing of beauty......not sure that the Z650RS quite hits the mark. Interesting video. Thank you.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you Quentin . Personally I think some bikes are works of art . Completely agree about the 400/4 exhaust ! My 996 R looks like it is doing a hundred miles an hour stood in the garage 😂
@bramdewit3537
@bramdewit3537 8 ай бұрын
Nice review. Its a retro bike so you should compare it to retro bikes, not to modern naked or sport bikes. Put it against an interceptor, a V7 or a street/speed twin and the Kawasaki has more power and better value then all of them. Also a just bought one 😎
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 8 ай бұрын
Nice bike . Looks great . Hope you enjoy yours . Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment . I appreciate it 👍
@johndavis2399
@johndavis2399 2 ай бұрын
Thorough and nuanced review. Well done.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 2 ай бұрын
Thank you John .
@marktiller1383
@marktiller1383 3 ай бұрын
I'm mainly riding round my town and just need something light with enough power to have fun occasionally, so it sounds ideal for me. My first bike was a brand new blue Kawasaki KH 250B2, back in 1977.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 3 ай бұрын
@@marktiller1383 have fun . Nice town bike and looks great 👍
@davidoram3423
@davidoram3423 Жыл бұрын
Re - the header pipe layout; I would guess the shape is a result of fitting a particular tuned length, into a fairly restricted linear distance between cylinder head, and the large cat beneath the engine.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
👍. I have no doubt there are good technical reasons for the shape . My comment is an attempt at a light hearted comment on the Aesthetics . Thanks for commenting !
@ΚωνσταντινοςΑναγνωστοπουλο-χ2υ
@ΚωνσταντινοςΑναγνωστοπουλο-χ2υ Жыл бұрын
Very nice review…thanks
@oliw3664
@oliw3664 Жыл бұрын
I bought a z900rs (great Facebook group btw) but I think the green and gold on this bike looks lovely. I wonder how a z9rs would look with it. All the best Michael.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Good question!
@glenncaukill1320
@glenncaukill1320 Жыл бұрын
Glad I bought the 900 , no comparison in my eyes .
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn , I like my 900 as well 👍 We are all different , which is good ..
@jmahrsn1808
@jmahrsn1808 Жыл бұрын
Tampoco hay comparación en el precio... Casi 4000€ de diferencia.
@uneasyr1der
@uneasyr1der Жыл бұрын
As an older returning rider, I wish I had bought the Z650RS as my starter bike, instead of the RE Meteor 350 I did buy. While the Meteor is a lovely bike and would definitely recommend it for certain types of riding and riders, I have quickly outgrown it. Now, I'm looking at a used Z900RS as my next ride!
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting . I agree completely ! The 350 is a good little bike but you have to be content at 55-65 mph for most of the time . The 650 is more than capable of holding its own in all traffic and road types and a great bike to either learn or refresh your biking experience . Most reasonably confident riders would find the Z900 easy to ride at lower , legal speeds but it can crack on if you choose to .. 👍
@malcolmpatton9314
@malcolmpatton9314 Жыл бұрын
Good review thank you
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thank you Malcolm for watching and taking the time to comment .
@borabaysal9900
@borabaysal9900 9 ай бұрын
Nice review
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 9 ай бұрын
Thank you . Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment .
@redzed40
@redzed40 4 ай бұрын
Good review, had a 77 Z1000 myself which I restored in 2000 like you said nice looking but scary handling
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 4 ай бұрын
@@redzed40 Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@redzed40
@redzed40 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelmam You done a evap delete and moved your reg/rec yet on the ceptor ?
@chriscallow4595
@chriscallow4595 11 ай бұрын
Good review, nice picture of Joey on the wall behind you.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 11 ай бұрын
Thank you . I like the picture too . I have had an SP1 for 22 years , which I bought new .
@davidharrington1133
@davidharrington1133 Жыл бұрын
Terrific review, thanks
@lovingmylifeasIage6741
@lovingmylifeasIage6741 Жыл бұрын
I traded in my Z650 for a Zephyr 750. Loved that bike. Then traded that in on a Ninja 600 E.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Definitely a marmite bike . I have met a few fellow motorcyclists over the years who loved the 750. Didn't sell well but some of my favourite bikes didn't either 😂
@christosswc
@christosswc Жыл бұрын
There's an argument to be made for TC. In my country, asphalt is quite slippery compared to the rest of the world, dusty and greasy roads are an issue as well and then there's, of course, rain. And rain on inherently more slippery roads is a nightmare. The real reason TC is not needed on this bike is it's character. It's not a sports bike and those buying it would not be looking to thrash it, rather enjoy riding slowly and, occasionaly, in a sporty manner but never with a racey mindset. At 7/10s let's say, leaving a good margin for error or misfortune. It is,after all, aimed at the more mature crowds who have lost their virginity long time ago, together with a good portion of their testosterone. Of course younger riders will love it as well, there are a lot of mature youngsters out there to be fair. As for engine modes and quick shifter being absent, that's an actual plus. Lastly, a naked bike with roughly 70 hp will not do 130mph, the actual top speed is around 185km/h or 115mph, hence the somewhat close gear ratios.
@IIshadowriderII
@IIshadowriderII 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. What about as a daily commuter? What do you think of it (suspension comfort, brakes, low-rev torque for start-stop conditions)?
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 8 ай бұрын
I made that video a while ago now but I certainly remember the bike being very easy to ride , balanced and quite small . All good characteristics for commuting in traffic . Quite an old fashioned engine and clutch which is light enough but not as smooth as some now . Bikes like the Vstrom 650 and 800’s have what is called something like a “low rev assist system” which makes them really good in stop / go traffic . From memory , brakes were fine on the Z650 I rode . Ultimately whilst specifications are facts , how a bike is to ride is far more subjective and opinions differ . My opinion is no more valid than anyone else’s but I could definitely commute on a Z650 but would factor in how much time the commute was on open roads and weather . It is an open retro naked . Hope this helps ! Have fun .
@jacobwilliams1285
@jacobwilliams1285 Ай бұрын
I dont think you hit the nail on the head with the 4 competitors you name in a Honda Hornet 750, MT07, used Z900RS and the Suzuki 800. The bikes this would compete with mainly are a Yamaha XSR700, an Enfield Interceptor, Moto Guzzi V7, maybe indeed a used Z900RS, used Bonneville, Enfield Shotgun 650. The bikes you mentioned are very modern looking, very different design. Anyways, I think this bike looks truly superb. Also over here in mainland Europe there is no price difference between a new Z650Rs and a Hornet 750, really strange they are 1000 pounds more in the UK than a Hornet with a bigger engine?
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Ай бұрын
@@jacobwilliams1285 I agree with you on looks . The Z650 is a good looking bike . Your comparison comment is fair . Lots of bikes in this space . Personally I still think it is too expensive , for what it is . We are all different , which is good 👍
@timparker9235
@timparker9235 Жыл бұрын
I didnt buy the 900, which looks gorgeous in my view, because I didnt want the weight and 45mpg - my reason for having a bike was to not have to buy a second hand car and I'm getting 74 mpg currently - at 45mpg for the 900 I might as well have bought a car anyway. It just fitted my purpose brilliantly.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are very happy with your choice Tim ! 👍
@Mr_lahDdah_Gunner_Graham
@Mr_lahDdah_Gunner_Graham 7 ай бұрын
They got the styling so right on this one … maybe should have put the ninja engine in 400 or 600 so we could have had 4 pipes and the howl
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 7 ай бұрын
It is a looker . Should have selected a slightly more charismatic engine in my opinion . It is OK , but nothing special . They make better engines than this ..
@josephgeorgeejr7039
@josephgeorgeejr7039 4 ай бұрын
I could have sworn the z650rs had traction control?? Or maybe later models??
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 4 ай бұрын
I think you are right . All UK bikes of this size and age need ABS even if it is a bit basic . My error . Apologies 👍 .
@pauls8456
@pauls8456 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelmamtraction control isn’t the same as ABS though……
@dsambernardo
@dsambernardo Ай бұрын
I own this bike. From 2024 models on, they have TC. The previous ones (2023 and before), like this green one (the same as mine) don't have. When I bought it I couldn't understand why because its equivalent z650 does have TC in 2023. If you see one, it's easy to spot: Just look on the grey buttons of the left hand side of the handlebar, if they are like the one on the video (8:42) it doesn't have. The ones with TC have an extra "OK" button in between. Hope this helps you.
@bobojo8591
@bobojo8591 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always... Maybe l did not hear it but when you were looking at alternatives l thought you missed the Yamaha XSR 700 which to my mind is a closer rival to this than the MT 07. Of course class wise they are pretty similar but for a like for like comparison l think the XSR form factor is this closest to this one.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
A couple of people have meantioned that and I am sure you are right . Although I have ridden the R7 and R6, they have both been on track days . Clearly need to familiarise myself with the wider range and find a dealer willing to lend me some bikes 👍
@nigel274
@nigel274 Жыл бұрын
Really good review. As a rider of 50 odd years i currently own a VFR1200F which is great fun but very heavy and also own a 2008 cb1300s which ive had from new. At 71 im thinking of getting a lighter replacement but struggling to decide which bike would suite me. After watching this Im leaning towards the z900rs. How does the weight feel on that as compared to a triumph bonneville? Neither are light.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
The Z doesn’t feel heavy and I move it around the garage quite a lot , which is where I normally feel it , if it is . Been a while since I have had a standard bonny ? Honest answer .. can’t remember . I did a review comparing the RS to a Thruxton over a year ago though . They were about the same weight but the Z was lighter to ride ..👍
@davidconnelly2096
@davidconnelly2096 Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, always enjoy your videos. Honest and obviously expertly researched...like you I didnt like the exhaust headers they spoil what is otherwise a very nice looking modern tribute to the iconic original. I guess an inline 4 not possible with modern rules..
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thanks David . Looks like the days of the middleweight 4 cylinder are gone for the foreseeable future but it is good to see the manufacturers investing in developing their twin engines . The Kawasaki 650 is quite an old design now so I suspect a new engine will appear at some point ? Ride safe 👍
@cmii9966
@cmii9966 Жыл бұрын
A plumber did it after a night out........., cracked me up!
@tombinkley2688
@tombinkley2688 25 күн бұрын
At the age of 76, weight is important and this bike meets that requirement. I am no longer interested in sporty performance, or indeed sporty handling. I am an old school rider and this bike almost ticks all the boxes.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 25 күн бұрын
I can understand that . Lighter than the 900 and if performance isn’t one of your key criteria , the 650 is a good looking and competent bike . Easy to ride 👍
@pauljobson554
@pauljobson554 Жыл бұрын
I'd swap out the MT07 for the XSR700 in your list. A shade over 8000 pounds now but a great bike.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Good comment ! A bike I have yet to try but certainly in that space 👍
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam The XSR700 is on a whole different level than an XSR900. I'm talking pre 2022 monstrosities that Yamaha have now made them.
@ralfybaby
@ralfybaby Жыл бұрын
Good review. As a potentially returning rider who also had a z1000 back in the day, blue and gold just like last year's z900rs, i would probably go with a RE interceptor. Just a bit more character and cheaper. For the price of a new z650rs you can get a leftover z900rs here in the US .....
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Hi Ralf , thank you for watching and taking the time to comment again . The old Z1000 had just over 80bhp (83 from memory ) . The interceptor has 47 and the RS 109 . I would try both if you can , before buying ? A used RS might suit you better ? You mentioned you are 6’2 “ on a different video . You might quickly find the Interceptor a bit tame ? I really like mine but I have put a Big Bore kit on it 👍
@ralfybaby
@ralfybaby Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam That is what i am thinking. I would likely be wanting a bit more power. Then again prior to my Z1000 I had a suzuki GS 550 and if I am honest that really had all the power that I needed in real life and in real traffic. Test rides are hard to come by here in the US. Shops ma have only 1 or 2 (or none believe it or not) and those are the ones they want to sell without miles on them so they won't let you drive them. I love the blue one with the yellow stripes as that was the one I had badk then. Then again for what is at my stage of life essentially a frivolity I am just a bit reluctant to spend $10k on something that I don't need. A leftover Inty is half that .... Then again I did see some old codger drive a Ninja 1000sx which looks like a spaceship to me, but kind of tempting ...
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
@@ralfybaby 😂 If I removed all the things that I don’t need and might kill me from my life .. there wouldn’t be much left …
@ralfybaby
@ralfybaby Жыл бұрын
@michaelmam I agree. Still have some dependents though ...
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
@@ralfybaby I understand completely 👍
@richarddevaottien7724
@richarddevaottien7724 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious contradiction when you disliked the rim coloured exhaust, but liked the rim colour😂
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
You might want to watch it again .. or not 😂
@michaelcrouch5708
@michaelcrouch5708 Жыл бұрын
I love everything about this bike except its price, its competitors make the little rs seem pricey.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Hi Michael , I do think the RS is a great looking bike but the arrival of the latest , higher spec Honda Hornet and Suzuki GSX8S do make it look a little expensive . The Yamaha legacy version of the XSR is actually more expensive but the base one is much nearer . I don’t know , but suspect deals can be done .. Personally I have found it better to buy the bike I really like , at the best price I can,rather than the bike which is the best deal …👍
@alandmorley
@alandmorley 4 ай бұрын
why no engine fins? (Vulcan 650 has them)
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 4 ай бұрын
@@alandmorley As you know fins are purely decoration on liquid cooled bikes so I can only assume that they preferred the look of the engine without the fins🤷🏼‍♂️
@josephgeorgeejr7039
@josephgeorgeejr7039 4 ай бұрын
Yea seems a retro should have those
@leeinwis
@leeinwis Ай бұрын
It's mam !
@petersaulnier3526
@petersaulnier3526 Жыл бұрын
does the gas cap open with a key?
@kalnwi2023
@kalnwi2023 Жыл бұрын
No you use a crowbar.
@petersaulnier3526
@petersaulnier3526 Жыл бұрын
not all have locking caps@@kalnwi2023
@erkutgurun
@erkutgurun 12 күн бұрын
Thanks. Your video was great except for your 2 comparisons in the beginning and end of your video. Firstly you can NOT compare this to the Suzuki 8S simply taking the price as base comparison. They're different brands. If you MUST, you should have compared the 900RS to the Suzuki 8S. So the horspower is in no way insufficient as your comparison states. And at the end of the video you can NOT compare a retro to modern naked bikes again which are more cc's than this. Your proper comparison could have been comparing this to the Royal Enfield Interceptor, Bonneville, etc.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 12 күн бұрын
@@erkutgurun I compare them to bikes I know and have ridden . Sorry that doesn’t work for you . The Suzuki 8S is not close to the Z900 RS in terms of performance nor price ..but people consider lots of bikes of different brands and styles . If my comparisons aren’t right for you , ignore them . It is just one of hundreds of KZbin videos out there .
@erkutgurun
@erkutgurun 12 күн бұрын
@@michaelmam Noted. P.S. The inner blue circle on the spedometer indicating the kilometers that you do not like, does not exist on other models exported to other countries. You can see this on the video titled "Kawasaki Z650RS motorcycle is ONE Year Old - how has it performed & do I still love it? #motovlog" by The Sticky Beak.
@johndavis2399
@johndavis2399 2 ай бұрын
"The gears....are quite traditional in that regard" (?) Would you describe the gear box as more "clunky" than "click-y>"
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 2 ай бұрын
Not a fast box John . Need to be precise and measured with it, to keep it smooth, particularly if you are pressing on . A bit like most 80’s bikes hence my “traditional” comment . 👍
@minimainiac1969
@minimainiac1969 Жыл бұрын
I think I would rather have the Royal Enfield 650 to go alongside my 900RS.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Hi, You probably recall that I have an Interceptor as well. I have put a Big Bore kit on it , taking it to an 865 which livens it up quite a bit. 47bhp on the standard bike means that you do more following than intercepting..😂Popular bike though and great value. The finish on the Kawasaki is better. Lucky that we have so many good bikes to choose from !
@realdevbro447
@realdevbro447 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam can share more details on that bore.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
@@realdevbro447 made a few videos on the whole thing - 5 in total .. this is the end one 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIqVaWebf7msasU
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal Жыл бұрын
Whilst this bike looks nice in terms of the front end and colours, I think it's a shame the Z650RS has effectively replaced the W800 in the UK market. Sure the Z650 is more performant, but it's also pretty obviously a modern bike with some retro styling tacked on - the W800 was a classic bike with the minimum of modern kit. The Z650 is also of lower overall finish quality and lacks my favourite feature a bike can come with - a centre stand! Since this bike costs about what the W800 did you're getting less for your money IMO, beyond the peak performance specs.
@cliveomahoney4096
@cliveomahoney4096 Жыл бұрын
I very nearly traded my CB650R in to buy this bike: only the green with gold wheels. Because it looks utterly divine. The old z650/4 is one of my fav bikes of all time. The reasons I didn't trade down, in the end were simply the old engine that is uninspiring and way down on power/torque and, the thing that you made light of, for no valid reason in my view, the lack of TC and basic modes. You can come a cropper on a bike at less than 5mph if it doesn't have TC. The power of the bike is pretty irrelevant. TC is, nearly, as important as ABS on bikes. I would never buy a bike without it. It's not expensive and it's a great addition to safety - just the basic, non-cornering TC. Although, I'd be delighted to have the 6 axis stuff keeping me safe.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Clive and taking the time to comment . We have very different views on TC , which is fine . Each to their own . 👍
@FilipeNeves-xp1ur
@FilipeNeves-xp1ur Жыл бұрын
In this year 2023 have TC
@kristwi37
@kristwi37 Жыл бұрын
Z650RS does not. Z650 has.@@FilipeNeves-xp1ur
@kristwi37
@kristwi37 Жыл бұрын
I have the bike and not once did the rear feel unstable at full throttle even in rain. 67hp isnt enough. also some people swear on non abs bikes. either way enjoy riding.
@shreywayy
@shreywayy Жыл бұрын
@@kristwi37riding skill will always override tech. you are absolutely correct, and the bike is also not powerful enough to spin the rear wheel that fast
@joedudz
@joedudz 5 ай бұрын
Why compare the outputs of a 650 with a 800? Pig ugly exhaust headers.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki KZ750 twin. Remember them? I do. Rode one and it was just so bland and gutless. Sounded as bland. This 650RS reminds me so much of that Kawasaki disaster. Kawasaki KZ750 Years produced: 1976-1983 Claimed power: 55hp @ 7000rpm (1976) Top speed: 103mph This is where there are two Kawasaki's in 2023. The green and black Monster Energy drink Kawasaki and the almost totally lost retro division and both are struggling badly.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
😂 I do remember the 750 twin . Verging on sale proof ... I do really like the Z900RS - I must do , I have bought two . Thanks for commenting.👍👍
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam The 650RS looks nice but it isn't the 900RS minus some capacity. But we both know Kawasaki haven't quite got it right in the past eh?
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
@@theaustralianconundrum In my experience ALL the manufacturers have made bikes over the years which can be fairly described as “duds” and Kawasaki have had their fair share . The Z650RS is not in my mind, a bad bike . It is just not as good to ride as it looks. Most of the others are now making some pretty good parallel twin engines and the one fitted here is beginning to show its age .
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam Spot on sir! Take care.
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j Жыл бұрын
Nice bike, but I prefer the XSR700: its looks and the 270-degree crank. I don't like the clocks on the Z. 1990 [Nick J]
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment . I haven’t ridden the XSR700 .. sounds like I should 👍
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam Nor have I. But I have always liked it. I almost bought one but found a bargain SCR950. This is in Thailand. 1990 [Nick J]
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam Kawasaki didn't nail this as well as the 900RS. That's my opinion. Biggest mistake? Making it a parallel twin instead of a 4. However the rims are nice, as is the overall retro tank, side covers and the general look. The brakes are budget gear and not worth that money. Clocks look plastic and cheap. It is fairly expensive given modest credentials and just is not the Z900RS which although has it's shortcomings, is a much more credible road bike shout out to the 70's. Cheers and wonderful lighting and vid quality!
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm Жыл бұрын
No centre stand which makes a task as simple as oiling the chain an absolute nightmare - why don't they fit a centre stand? No kick start. Some of us enjoy starting our bikes with the kick start & I can think of no good reason why a kick start is not fitted. Why do motorcycles have black engines? No option to spend a Sunday afternoon with a cloth & a tube of Autosol on your casings. I don't like the exhaust. I don't like these retros - why don't they just start producing the original 1970s models?
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Жыл бұрын
Produce the original 1970's bike, with single disk front/drum rear brake as well as unbearable curve handling, too 😂
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm Жыл бұрын
@@enricohagn Yup - skill was required to ride those 1970s machines which is something you obviously don't have. Stick to cars would be my advice to you. Best regards, dear heart xx
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Жыл бұрын
@@rosiemason-rk4cm immensely opinionated 😂😂
@rosiemason-rk4cm
@rosiemason-rk4cm Жыл бұрын
@@enricohagn What is wrong with having an opinion? Maybe you'd be best dressing all in taupe & standing at the back, unnoticed by anyone. Best regards, dear heart xx
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Жыл бұрын
@@rosiemason-rk4cm "stick to csrs would be my advice to you"... Is an "opinion"?
@frupertlister2039
@frupertlister2039 Жыл бұрын
Ladies version of 900.
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
😂 I have met a few ladies on track days who left me for dead ......I sponsored Georgina Polden some years ago . She was ballistic...
@frupertlister2039
@frupertlister2039 Жыл бұрын
You know what I mean. Maybe I should have said Hairdressers. Michael is busting his gut to be nice but it comes across as bland in every respect but still expensive (as is the 900RS - I own the cafe version) I agree there are many women than can ride rings around me
@michaelmam
@michaelmam Жыл бұрын
@@frupertlister2039 Yes , I do try to be fair . Although I was genuinely looking forward to riding the bike I was a bit underwhelmed by the engine . I prefer my 900 but accept that not everyone wants 109bhp , nor the weight . 👍
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmam 2020 Yamaha XSR900 for me and at 115bhp and BONKERS torque of 90Nm @ 3,000rpm = a winner. Build quality is also utterly 5 stars plus smooth as a jet with no vibes..
@akaikai306
@akaikai306 10 ай бұрын
好的評論感謝
@michaelmam
@michaelmam 10 ай бұрын
Thank you . Glad you found it useful 👍
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