The Man That Hated Lemons | Cave Johnson | Full Portal Lore

[@Skyrionn]

If you enjoyed this and would like more Portal lore - then please consider liking, sharing and subscribing! It would be high appreciated. I DONT WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS

[@rockhound3.14]

Ill burn your house down. With the lemons!

[@rockhound3.14]

@Denis 🤣🤣🤣 💀☠💀

[@Leefjuice4005]

My brain: So there are other Aurora Borealises?

[@rockhound3.14]

@@Leefjuice4005 the borealis is decribed as being in all places in all times all the time lol

[@Velossitee]

EHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEM...Don't forget Nikola Tesla...Do not forget the man of static electricity and energy reservation.

[@peppyrobo7049]

The fact that we do not even see Cave at all but we know everything about him as a character is a testament to how good portals writing is

[@LNSO2006]

It's not nessesary to see someone's appearance at all accually anyways

[@Omega-jg4oq]

And it's does make Aperture look much darker.. cause no human left except Chell.. so all you hear pre-recorded messages

[@Skyrionn]

It truly was great writing and level design

[@fujiwaranovari]

I think it has less to do with that and more to do with the fact Cave is an open book

[@rymations1537]

We see cave multiple times?

[@maremaretac4355]

The fact that even Cave, as someone without a science background, knows the risks of a resonance cascade shows just how risky Black mesa was being with their exsperiments. He even tells them to "use common sence" and that is rich from Cave Johnson. When life gives ya lemons, make science-aid.

[@Skyrionn]

I hadn't even thought of it that way! If Cave knew, why didn't they?

[@maremaretac4355]

@@Skyrionn They did know of the concept and i think that in the lore one of the black mesa scientist wrote the book on cascades but as black mesa is pushing for profit first they ignored it

[@Bananappleboy]

@@maremaretac4355 ...stares at Dr. Breen, administrator of Black Mesa staring at GMan who is staring at Alyx Vance 10-30 years into the future who is staring at GORDON FREE-

[@minelayer26]

@@Skyrionn i believe its because they thought the chance of it actually happening was slim, and it was mainly the gman getting an unstable specimen for the anti mass spectrometer to intentionally cause a resonance cascade

[@demonking86420]

@@Skyrionn ask Wallace Breen

[@matti.8465]

I absolutely love Cave's ridiculous strategy. Just get a bunch of scientist, give them an absurd amount of funds, and tell them to "do science"

[@Skyrionn]

It seemed to work for the most part haha

[@Gremlinne]

I mean, that was pretty much America and the Soviet Union to their scientists during the Cold War lol

[@Oof_my_guy]

​@@Gremlinne and hey, it worked! We have internet because of it.

[@fackynaxicht8603]

At this point Musk turned himself into Cave Johnson

[@the_femboy_gravemind]

@@fackynaxicht8603musk is like the complete opposite of cave

[@TheMrsmartass13]

I heard a theory that; what if the gels needed time to become non toxic, since when Chell deals with the gels she is covered in it during a few puzzles, so either she will be riddled with tumors after her escape, or the gels have become less toxic over the decades it sat their waiting.

[@guymanuel4260]

If I remember correctly, passing through portals undoes the toxicity in a body EDIT: Theorized. But here's hoping Chell is okay lol.

[@Neon-ws8er]

@@guymanuel4260 lol

[@Skyrionn]

I had the same though tbh! Cave did hope that passing through portals would remove the lunar poisoning from the gels but I don't think it was ever confirmed on if it worked or not. My thinking is no as he still died from lunar poisoning

[@TheMrsmartass13]

@@guymanuel4260 okay then I can see that

[@Jeremy-hn4uz]

Portal 2 takes place way in the future after cave Johnson was alive, and the half life (pun intended) could have been within that time, so it could have became less toxic, but I’m not a scientist so idk

[@never_meltice9996]

"Science isn't about why - it's about why not. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired!" Cave, Johnson

[@Skyrionn]

Love this

[@219GeorgiaRoseXxX]

I wonder if all the people who where fired founded black mesa

[@jacobj3933]

Unironically, why even do something for the sake of it, when at the end of the day pursuit for pursuits sake, or more specifically, scientific "discovery" sake. These sci-fi stories tend to warn all about at least some consequences of this outright pointless pursuit. Doing it, making it happen, for the sake of doing it or making it happen, when typically what's discovered never does anything useful, and is only praised for being discovered or achieved. But again is not useful in practicality.

[@jacobj3933]

Take the portal gun. Sure it's neat, but to even make 1 working prototype, undoubtedly costed millions. Attempting to mass produce it would more than likely cause a company to go bankrupt. And that's being generous in assuming that for whatever reason, some other company or maybe a government wanted it to be mass produced. But the literal cost to do so would be far too great. The technology that the gun uses was expensive enough to create. The portal gun itself also an additional expensive cost. What purpose would a portal gun truly be to any other business, let alone say a government, when there's no real use for it practically. Better to invent or discover something that can actually be useful than to pursue an achievement or discovery that is only for it's own sake of being achieved/discovered.

[@jacobj3933]

Essentially, just because something can be done or discovered, should it be? What good, or what use would it be to any society on earth if x was achieved or discovered? Why waste valuable resources and time on something that does little to practically nothing for the well being, not even the improvement of people's lives.

[@Someone-wr4ms]

I like how valve was able to create such a legitimately tragic and morally gray iconic character and make him an absolute doofus without damaging our suspension of disbilief of his arc, in my opinion, the hole underground section from portal 2 has to be the single best written story on gaming history, one of the funniest, and also the only time I've ever cried while playing a video game, I don't think there's another game that has been able to work as well as portal 2

[@Skyrionn]

I agree with what you've said :) He's perfectly written and flawed. It's what we need in a character.

[@Red_Platinuum]

Cry? But nothing sad happened.

[@DevDabs420Official]

​@@Red_Platinuummy guess is they cried cause the writing, not sad tears.

[@Gremlinne]

SAME! A fellow individual of culture, I see :) Not only one for the writing, but also for the aesthetic of the different eras of Aperture represented. I replay those chapters every once in a while just to ogle the architecture, offices, and graphic designs and logos from each period. It feels SO authentic!

[@clockworkNate]

@DorielM Hearing Cave Johnson go from a happy young charismatic optimistic man to an older moon dust cancer ridden old dying man, was pretty sad.

[@EmeraldArchive]

I still can't believe black Mesa and aperture were seriously competing labs

[@Skyrionn]

I know right. I guess Aperture won in the end... in a sense

[@zigfaust]

Well here's the thing: Black Mesa was controlled sciences with a roadmap. Aperture was chaotic sciences with no direction. Both ways of creating new technologies have their unique ups and downs, they were Yin and Yang to each other.

[@mmgaming-pu7zt]

@@zigfaust and black mesa gives something goverment want, super weapon, actual alien life. Their technology isn't as advanced as Aperture science but they got sponsored by goverment (big advantage) and did what they ask. meanwhile Aperture science is super advanced, yes. But they would probably make a interdimensional crab generator when the problem is pipe leak

[@zigfaust]

@@mmgaming-pu7zt That's a good point. Mesa is funded, Aperture is basically out of Caves pocket...

[@dasirrlicht5415]

Aperture was so much more advanced on every corner, but Black Mesa did make fancy guns. So fancy that Aperture resorted to sell their turrets to the civilian market. In turn, weirdly, nearly everything made in Aperture is safer or at least more reliable and user friendly then the Black Mesa products.

[@Raven]

Cave will live on in our lemonries.

[@gamiezion]

thanks dad :')

[@Skyrionn]

Best comment I've read so far

[@SwivelAxl]

@@Skyrionn same.

[@cavejohnson7609]

I can not die. I will live forever.

[@ArnieMcStranglehold]

Possibly the most underrated comment on KZbin.

[@Exnem]

He is the real villain of Portal if you think about it, but his character is so endearing nobody ever really notices.

[@flahoo2807]

Oh yeah for sure. Cave is completely deranged.

[@Skyrionn]

100%

[@bitbreaker_creator]

I kin him but i agree

[@Exnem]

@@bitbreaker_creator You what him

[@rosykindbunny1313]

I mean, he's kinda the reason why GLaDOS exists

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

Cave Johnson is what would happen if Ron Burgundy got into science.

[@Skyrionn]

YES!

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

@@Skyrionn "I'm going to have my boys in the lab find a way to turn checkers and caulk into an afternoon snack." -Cave Burgundy

[@cavejohnson7609]

@@TheStrayHALOMAN I'm going to drop a combustible lemon down your shorts.

[@MHKing03]

Repulsion Gel: 60% of the time it works, every time!

[@dasirrlicht5415]

Its still funny that 'wacky' Aperture keeps creating useful and reliable stuff, while 'professional' Black Mesa struggles at every step of the way with making things useable. I mean, think about it: While Black mesa was struggeling with keeping their computers even running, Aperture had already developed Artificial Intelligence (Personallity Spheres had to exist back when GLaDOS was killed the facility the second time, which was at bring your pets/kids to work day, which means that the 7 hour war can't have happened yet... Except you wanna suggest Aperture survived the apocalypse and was able to keep working with human staff and such a thing as homes to go to afterward. Apertures Portals are instant, reliable, reasonable safe and you actually know where they lead to because you can look trough them! Unlike Black Mesas Teleportation, which does not allow you to see where you are going and is not exactly fast, coming with side effects like the end of the world as well. Its only advantage is that you can do it fully from one side, and don't have to set the exit at least once manually. Apertures turrets are the consumer version, even if still described as military androids. They can identify targets, shoot the full bullet and can hold a conversation. We are unsure if the HECU Sentries are a Black Mesa, Aperture or unaffiliated product. A lot of Aperture technologies work with nearly no power. They can keep most of an AI alive with a potato battery build by a moron. A moron they also invented! They have backup plans and emergency protocols running so far as the extinction of humanity and takeover of another sentient people stumbeling onto the testtrack. Which, even overgrown after the AI in charge of it got turned off, still worked. Mostly. The gels are theoretically rather useful stuff. Especially the orange one. Friction reduction would be useful in a LOT of fields. Anti Gravity Funnels. Bridges and walls made out of daylight. Emanicipation Grills are a really great thing, able to differenciate between You, your Clothes and things it will not allow to pass... Like potentionally your eardrums, but still, the fact that it can even pick out specifically the eardrumms is incredible. So much potential in that alone... What inventions has Black Mesa to show? Guns, a really nice transit system (that is late, assuming it is not just gordon), and interdimensional teleportation... Of course, the Earth Prime version of Aperture did the multiverse travel, but we don't drag them in or this would be totally one-sided. Same for all the side-games which feature Aperture stuff. Black Mesa probably also made some nifty things, but I feel like their stuff is mainly experimental weaponry.

[@cypherusuh]

Comparing both of them is like comparing oranges and lemon. It similar, but slightly different. Aperture focused on pure science patents alongside day-to-day products, while Black Mesa is pretty much a military company

[@dasirrlicht5415]

@@cypherusuh I mean, I would agree, if they did not outright call out ' Training Course for Military Androids' and 'Consumer version of our most popular military grade product'. They started by selling shower curtains to the military, and they never stopped producing and selling things to the military. But yeah, they are certainly not the militaries faveorite child.

[@coyoots]

Cave is my favorite Portal character. A prequel about him and the origins of Aperture would be cool, but It'd be strange to see an actual character model of Cave. I'm just too used to him as a disembodied voice, I guess. :P

[@Skyrionn]

I would LOVE a prequel.

[@realityveil6151]

26:35 - God, that little crack in his voice. It's so much. A broken man, lashing out at life and everything. It reminds me of homeworld in a way, that line right at the start "All orbital facilities destroyed."

[@ifipaidmybartabtheu.swould9208]

Think it's cool you're re-doing old vids with new info, show's just how much the channel has grown. Great vid

[@Skyrionn]

I honestly cringe a little when I look back at the older videos 😂 I was so proud of them! It's interesting to see how much I've changed though!

[@23AXIS32]

Yes I love these new longer in depth videos. 10/10

[@henrik1743]

Cave Johnsson is better at sales pitches and the delivery of them than Billy Mays, whoever did the voice acting of him did a phenomenal job.

[@guymanuel4260]

JK Simmons

[@Skyrionn]

Our guy J K Simmons. A true hero

[@henrik1743]

@@Skyrionn wow that is amazing, had no clue it was him

[@tragedyplustime8271]

J. K. Simmons, J. Jonah himself.

[@dragonace119]

@@guymanuel4260 The legend also voiced Nolan in Invincible.

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

Cave Johnson comes across toem like someone who knows how to be successful and get the job done but getting obssesed with such things, makes him unhinged and finally turning him into someone full of anger out of frustation that drives into eventual failure. Anyway, great character and the lemons monologue is superb.

[@Skyrionn]

It's probably my favourite monologue.

[@mattcy6591]

Jk Simmons voice acting is freaking great.

[@Skyrionn]

He's incredible. This is my favourite role for him. The second being "FIND ME SPIDERMAN!"

[@Hervoo]

*Virgin Black Mesa:* we take care of our workers and scientists, and so about our experiments! (Ends up killing everyone and destroying the world) *Chad Aperture:* We throw science at the wall and see what sticks, no matter of cost! (Creates ground breaking device and facility that still lives centuries on)

[@davisdf3064]

*Gigachad Blaperture Mesa:* We throw money, people, cars and anything you could think of onto Science! And we rotting in money!

[@ethanlivemere1162]

"Lives" *everyone in the facility is dead*

[@deusexmachina2938]

Considering that the Black Mesa incident even happened because they had decided to eschew safety protocols and began pushing the Anti-Mass Spectrometer beyond capacity, not to mention the constant jokes about the facility being constantly in a state of disrepair with stuff malfunctioning and exploding everywhere, where the intro even starts with a biological/radioactive waste just outside Sector C, they're just slightly more sensible about their science than Aperture is.

[@apchistuz]

@@ethanlivemere1162 the facility is fully functional, and cubes are still manufactured

[@tragedyplustime8271]

Black Mesa literally works on tape reels by 1998/2003 lmao, and they had constant toxic spills and computer malfunctions, imagine thinking Breen (The guy who sold out humanity) gives a rat's ass about his workers Also all of Black Mesa's experiments are either stolen from Aperture or planned by the G-Man

[@sookendestroy1]

The interesting thing with the half life/portal universe is literally anything is possible. Cave could come in and save the day, the combine could be trapped in a universe where portal technology can never be created, alternate universe could show up and affect stalemates etc. Valve leaning really heavy into the multiverse nature of the combine and by proxy the universe leaves literally endless possibilities. Also kinda funny aperture from some universes skipped through the multiverse with no real reprocussions while black mesa makes one big leap into it and instantly alerts the combine. Weve likely never seen the actual combine species, what a twist would it be if the origin of the combine were actually just aperture from another universe.

[@Skyrionn]

This is a storyline I would be happy to see.

[@juanletsplay1550]

I love how in the LEMONS part, when Cave says his name, his name appears on screen

[@Skyrionn]

...I 100% planned that....

[@metrocop-191]

That picture of young cave Johnson really looks like an inspiring figure :)

[@Skyrionn]

He really does. I loved the portraits of him when navigating the facility showing just how far he fell.

[@metrocop-191]

@@Skyrionn It's sad but very interesting!

[@ambrusraul2297]

How is it possible for me to stay focus on video topics im not normally invested/interested in ? You remind me , as story telling of Thomas the Tank Engine and things i dont normally bother to understand it feels like i know them all my life because of how you make your videos . This is a strong channel , to be invested in something i dont normally try to explore myself

[@Skyrionn]

That means a lot bud. I worked on my speech pattern more in this one too. It was slightly faster than normal. I do recommend playing the Portal games if you haven't. They're so good with fascinating lore

[@speedskeleton250]

"I am gonna burn your house! With the lemons! I'm gonna get all my engineers to invent a combustible lemon!"

[@Skyrionn]

Love this

[@jasonsamuels3757]

You can sort of interact with Cave in Lego Dimensions. Every level has a bonus character you need to rescue for 100% completion. In the bonus Portal level, you can rescue a personality core with Cave's voice. The core claims that Cave survived long enough to transfer his consciousness into the core. That seems to have worked out better for him than that giant robot head.

[@softtracc]

cave johnson is one of my favorite video game characters

[@Skyrionn]

He feels so real. Amazing writing on Valve's part

[@softtracc]

agreed

[@platonicpicnic]

I am currently plan on writing my final essay for one of my courses on the environmental storytelling of Portal 2 (specifically). I just wanted to say your work is amazing and insightful. You're awesome.

[@royliber3824]

Great video as always Skyrionn! I also thought about the theory of Chell being the child of Cave and Caroline... However one thing doesn't add up about this theory, if GLaDOS is Caroline's conciousness... How come GLaDOS doesn't really recognize Chell? Infact, why would she try and kill her own daughter? One easter egg that adds to the theory is about Chell's creation in the Aperture Science fair where she basically made a growing potato... We know Chell stuck around Aperture probably more than anyone else, so her parents most likely played a significant rule there. We also know her "brain damage" refers from her of remembering anything that happened, so its not like she could show who her real parents are, or even know where to look... Also GLaDOS laughing about Chell being an orphan... Its funny because if the theory is true she is laughing at her own daughter for not having parents. I don't think this theory is too much far fetched, and im sure Cave and Caroline had some moments between them but I still can't quite make the connection on Chell being their daughter all things considered. We know GLaDOS also kinda lost her memory not knowing she was Caroline untill she was re-introduced to Cave's voice, but I would expect from her to remember her daughter when she did remember who she really was. I hope all of this can be explained in later instalments.

[@Skyrionn]

The way you've phrased that, I guess it just wouldn't make sense haha. If it were in some way, it would be pretty fun for GLaDOS to mock her own daughter for not knowing who her parents are! haha

[@Cobretsov2022]

Great acting with phenomenal writing, this is my personal way of describing C. Johnson

[@Skyrionn]

exactly.

[@piotrek5s170]

Now that im thinking about it, Cave technically died of pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[@Skyrionn]

That hurt my brain

[@mombear2749]

What the heck!?

[@keterpatrol7527]

YES! Exactly!!

[@d.l.8394]

What is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? noun | A lung disease caused by the inhalation of very fine silicate or quartz dust, causing inflammation in the lungs. The sharp particles lacerate the lining of the lungs, causing the victim to leak air from their lungs while simultaneously bleeding into their lung cavity.

[@d.l.8394]

@LordBob it is apparently

[@StevenS757]

I like the Cave/Carolyn is Chel's parents theory because of all the hints. 1. Cave & Carolyn's implied romance 2. Chel having a C name 3. Chel's science project being in that facility for "Bring your daughter to work day." 4. GLaDOS' judgemental comments to Chel about her parents and appearance. 5. GLaDOS' Opera lyrics translation and closing Song to Chel as she escapes the facility, implying care and worry.

[@PeanutButterWasTaken]

I think it’s more likely that her parents were either just random employees, or she is Greg’s daughter. I was listening to a collection off all of the cave Johnson voice lines in the dlc, just your typical portal fan behavior, and there’s one line where Greg’s daughter runs in and talks into the mic. If I remember correctly, it’s something along the lines of, “We are going to test forever and ever.” Also, unless cave and Caroline adopted, glados would know Chell isn’t adopted. I guess here Caroline side and memory’s were pretty suppressed, but if she was cave’s daughter it would definitely be marked on her file which both glados and ratman have access too.

[@thefakemcbirdo]

I feel like GLaDOS's snark about parents and appearance was more of something to bother Chell, she really pushes the envelope on hating you 60% of the game. plus, those are the two things to set a person off if you think about it. why do you think "yo mama" jokes are/were popular? people just really like making jabs at parents, nothing really to look into. not trying to come off as rude of course. :) ** also, Chell has severe brain damage (we could assume she has amnesia to a degree) and we literally get no backstory about her besides her signature on the overgrown potato on BYDTWD. GLaDOS can lie about anything and we wouldn't even know it unless she outright tells us, she has done it before and most likely will keep doing it lol.

[@doggosuki]

@@PeanutButterWasTaken dont the fat turrets song translate to a song about a mother loving her daughter or something

[@cacovonluca]

@@doggosuki The translate doesn't say the words like "daughter" or "child". I think it's just a gift from GLaDOS to show the maternal bond she grew by having Chell at her side.

[@danielbishop1863]

The main problem I have with that idea is the timeline. Assuming that Caroline was born around 1930 (to be an adult in time for her first voice recording in 1952), and Chell was born around 1980 (to still be in school after "Take your daughter to work day" was started in 1992), then that's a 50-year age gap between the two. That's rather unusual for a biological mother.

[@swankDaboobin]

The fact that you update your info is baller moves. Keep it up. Fantastic video

[@Skyrionn]

Appreciate it! Always trying to keep on top of the content

[@Rogue_5507]

I grew up with Gravity Falls and knowing the same voice for Stanford and Cave are Simmons it always makes me think that these two geniuses are the same person

[@suicidalbanananana]

Cave & Caroline being Chell's parents is always a fun one, if you make a video about this please make sure to humor similar theories too (like, why not Ratman & Caroline? or some other people we dont actually know (yet)? or hell, why not some link to certain Black Mesa employees? Kleiner & Caroline? Cave & Mossman? why would Chell's parents be redacted from the spreadsheet if it was Cave & Caroline? Why would Glados hate Chell if it was Carolines daughter? etc etc etc, would make for a interesting video!)

[@Skyrionn]

I'm absolutely screenshotting this comment for when I potentially do this video :D

[@vnegar4045]

Love the video, man. From how old this game is it is hard to find an original lore video, especially one made so recent. Well done.

[@CaptainSomethin]

portal and half life are the only games I can think of that are so drastically different gameplay wise but the stories are intertwined in a way. I love this gaming universe

[@loxodoncyclotis1823]

The more I learn about Elon Musk, the more I realize he's not so much a RL Tony Stark as a RL Cave Johnson.

[@Skyrionn]

100%

[@Vly-nn2sv]

Didn't think of this. Mind you, I'll steal it :D

[@rosykindbunny1313]

Pray his assistant doesn't turn into a robot

[@Vly-nn2sv]

@@rosykindbunny1313 forcing someone into a robot would be a musk thing.

[@Bananappleboy]

Oh boy, can't wait for elon musk to make lemons and moon rock portal conductors with no use whatsoever!!!!! Obvious sarcasm

[@JawadAlsmady]

It was so sad to know that cave is living forever, after playing "Aperture desk job"! 23:50 I totally agree that he's one of the best fictional characters right there! Portal was so well written that it still has the potential to make another sequel to this day even after more than a decade! Great videos keep it going!!!

[@bigtub1101]

When I heard the thing about the army of mantis men, I was like whaat!! One of my favorite books, Grasshopper Jungle by Andrew Smith (and the sequel, Exile from Eden) is about a science company who does some weird testing and there's a bunker that people have to hide in because people started turning into 8 ft tall praying mantises! Wow! Also a wonderfully crafted video

[@Redneck_Hero]

It kind of sounded like Cave Johnson's VA almost laughed when talking about building a combustible lemon at the end lol

[@edoardoconti7162]

now THAT is what i call great content

[@Skyrionn]

Thank you Cave. I offer you a lemon.

[@josephleebob3828]

@dom_thebestyt dom they found out how to necromance the dead

[@bitbreaker_creator]

@@Skyrionn time to burn your house Down with that lemon

[@MaxwellVrooman]

Cave Johnson was a dumb ass like seriously he was sitting on millions of dollars of scientific achievements and did nothing with it even when his company was crashing into the ground

[@JackSmith-fv5iw]

After being in a portal mood for awhile I decided to listen to his lemon rant again, and now I’m actually working on a combustible lemon and have all the instructions down

[@alanfitzgerald9026]

"Here is some advice from the lab boys in case you get covered in the repulsion gel. *Pages flipping sound... Do not get covered in the repulsion gel. We haven't nailed down what element it is, but it's a lively one, and it does not like the human skeleton"

[@Skyrionn]

Classic Cave.

[@cmclaren7]

This game is excellent on so many levels. Thank you for this piece on Cave Johnson. If you haven't done so already, please take on The Talos Principle.

[@SerpentNight]

Its ironic when you think about it that it was his portal technology that created a series of events leading to the resonance cascade and the Combine takeover and now that technology might save the planet.

[@MarcosAlexandre-no3qx]

nope, yeah they both were researching teletransport, but black mesa was testing with dimensional teleportation if i'm not wrong, to the point they found the xen crystal. if they had theorized about another dimensions i won't doubt that black mesa would caused the resonance cascade, the thing is the only way for them to not cause the end of the world is them losing to aperture with the governement fund or cave buying them as he did in a universe

[@evdestroy5304]

It was Black Mesa's fault the Combine invaded, not Aperture's

[@SerpentNight]

@@evdestroy5304 Could be, or it could be that Black Mesa's inter dimensional teleportation was developed out of Aperture's localized teleportation. Who knows.

[@evdestroy5304]

@@SerpentNight They were entirely seperate, this is pretty well known

[@TrinityCore60]

For the algorithm! I’ve been binging your videos lately, and I’ve got to say, you are VERY good at this. Love it!

[@lordmeowsk]

I learnt the phrase "When life gives you lemons make lemonade" from Cave Johnson.

[@Skyrionn]

A wise man to learn from.

[@muggrootbeer]

This and all other Valve games is the only game where I sit down and watch the lore videos / icebergs. Partly because the games are interesting and mind-blowing.

[@Skyrionn]

I'm glad I can provide them for you!

[@muggrootbeer]

@@Skyrionn :)

[@crazywaffle4453]

Only 23,000 views? You were right the algorithm is shit. This is such a good video!

[@Skyrionn]

Algorithm is working against me currently. Maybe it'll be kind soon!

[@rawrthedinosawr9659]

I feel like it's plausible that a Cave Johnson from another universe started the combine

[@Skyrionn]

I agree with this completely.

[@jamesbryant8087]

By God, it's so crazy it just might be canon.

[@rayn7904]

The lemon monologue is my ring tone. I thought someone was calling me but the realized it was the video 😂

[@OldJerzyDevil]

Love the video! I had completely forgotten about his multiverse adventures, damn! Never really got far into Portal 2, but I have heard and seen videos. Much in the same way, the ending of Alex (as I understand.) may lead back to Cave making a triumpant return... If a certain company can stop dancing the Two Step!

[@Skyrionn]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@gamingseizure]

Cave's lemon rants are on par with Markipliers rants saying that he's not a masochist

[@MINISCULE2]

The fact that this also contains Aperture Desk Job lore is realy impressive

[@Skyrionn]

To be honest. This whole video was an excuse to explore Aperture Desk Job and go behind the scenes.

[@MINISCULE2]

@@Skyrionn Then why didnt you just make it normally?

[@shinyshark2247]

@@MINISCULE2 he is joking.

[@gesh5849]

Your work is much appreciated my dude!

[@Skyrionn]

That's kind. I love putting these together and I'm glad that you like them

[@SteveAdmienn]

Wait so they are seperate universes? Thats a shame. I thought Desk Job was canon, meaning Cave is still alive.

[@Skyrionn]

It's could be viewed in two ways I guess. It's nice to think that Cave did survive for a bit longer in another universe!

[@davisdf3064]

Well, kinda, the momment that Aperture got access to other universes everything became canon. Anything is possible after all.

[@DeepfriedChips]

Most portal related short games are tiny bite sized non-canon jokes usually

[@SteveAdmienn]

@@davisdf3064 I want Cave. THE REAL CAVE JOHNSON

[@davisdf3064]

@@SteveAdmienn "Cave Johnson here from Earth prime! I dunno what you guys are talking about, but i am the real Cave Johnson. Chariots Chariots"

[@tall_prince]

I'm so glad you talked about the multiverse, I never even heard of the money-verse! Great video as usual, keep up the work!

[@Skyrionn]

Thanks! Will do! I appreciate you watching!

[@TOBAPNW_]

I for one would love to see a video done about Cave and Caroline's potential relationship!

[@truckjumperdude]

20:49 I don't know why, but hearing Blaperture Mesa made me laugh so hard.

[@mattcy6591]

Cave and Aperture is an allegory for Gabe and Valve. Actual valves and apertures function similarly. And Gabe starting in games, moving to technology, becoming a billionaire and now focusing on BCI and eventually downloading brains. Aperture also constantly tests prototypes and never gets around to completing/releasing them.

[@mattcy6591]

Oh I guess we can retcon a bit more: teleportation technology is like how VR transports you into a different world. Aperture and Black mesa are rivals in developing teleportation technology. Valve and Facebook/meta rivalry and valves frustration at Meta dominating the VR market.

[@ObligedUniform]

"Chariots chariots"-- Cave (PRIME)

[@Skyrionn]

Chariots Chariots Chariots

[@HavingFunTimes]

This video is amazing!!!! great writing with awesome b roll! sharing this with my friends

[@Skyrionn]

Thank you! Too kind. I loved putting this one together.

[@andrijamitic3434]

I don't think the shower curtains had anything special about them, but were invented by Cave in Valve's universe. Cave sold them in 1943, while in the real world shower curtains were invented in 1953 by a man named Janus Wittrup

[@NovaBoi7]

Turns out the curtains were very damn strong

[@ER9M-522]

“Well that’s a corner cutting machine, we obliviously cut them there.”

[@rosykindbunny1313]

The funny thing is, this isn't the first time J.K. Simmons has voiced a scientist who has something to do with portals, with an assistant that goes (somewhat) insane.

[@GoogleSystemAdmin]

Wait really? What are you referring too?

[@rosykindbunny1313]

@@GoogleSystemAdmin Ford from Gravity Falls

[@GoogleSystemAdmin]

@@rosykindbunny1313 ohhhhhhhhhh ╰⁠(⁠＾⁠3⁠＾⁠)⁠╯

[@StoneKnight1]

uh, fine. I've seen like thousand johnson lores. 1 more won't hurt, especialy fresh one

[@Skyrionn]

I hope you enjoyed it

[@andyfriederichsen]

That pre-Combine coast at the start of the video looks amazing.

[@Skyrionn]

It's stunning! There's so many pre-combine maps on the G-Mod workshop

[@HgFin]

Always love to hear about portal lore

[@Skyrionn]

There's more to come :)

[@EggGuy461]

This could be the ultimate portal lore! The lore behind...... ......Chell

[@Skyrionn]

YES

[@thealyxvancehalflife]

All right, I've been thinking when life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down- with the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns down your house down! - Me

[@Skyrionn]

Full of wisdom Cave.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

"Burning People! He says what we're all thinking!"

[@yarr_bro]

Absolutely stellar video on Cave Johnson, thank you so much for this amazing analysis

[@Skyrionn]

Too kind! I appreciate that! There's more to come. I think GLaDOS will be the next Portal video

[@albertojuan4856]

8:07 is basically Valve nowadays. Interesting.

[@thecalham]

Shame I don't have enough lunch left to watch all but I'll checker out after work 👍

[@Skyrionn]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@elrusito5034]

Good ol' Cave embodies the saying "the only difference between fucking around and doing science is taking notes" I imagine he'd follow up with "we now have a warehouse full of papers describing the effects of replacing a man's bones with pure tungsten!" (or some other crazy shtick)

[@RoleyVideos]

It must have took ages putting this video together. Well done.

[@Skyrionn]

It took a while but I'm so happy with how it turned out

[@ignacionevarez3254]

It would be great if you explored more about the theory that Cave Johnson was based on Steve Jobs, including the topic of wanting to immortalize himself in AI and the regret of not having explored that technology in time.

[@Lamron333]

That invisible laser turning people's blood into pure gasoline line almost killed me,... if I had been eating something at the time, I would be dead! 😆😂🤣

[@Skyrionn]

Classic Cave experiment.

[@A-Z-U-R-E]

I just now realized that cave Johnson was voiced by J.K Simmons XD that’s awesome

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of Cave's work become instrumental in Gordon and friends' effort to bring down the Combine.

[@crowatacomputer428]

the moral of the story: don't develop high tech shower curtains

[@Skyrionn]

A very strong point

[@TheCasualWendigo]

I don't think that C-AI-ve Johnson (see what I did there?) happens in a multiverse. I think Cave was put into an actual AI shell, we just don't see him in either of the current portal games.

[@GarbajeCan]

There was scraped content in portal 2, one of these was cave Johnson having his contitiousness in a cube plugged in the wall, youd have to unplug and use him to get out of a hole, it kills him

[@davisdf3064]

Someone theorized that Cave became the Animal King giant turret

[@Katie-xd1nt]

Caves an AI in the latest steam deck demo

[@ApertureLabs]

The timeline of Aperture Desk job directly conflicts with the timeline of Aperture that was set in the Portal 2 universe, and Erik Wolpaw, the writer of Portal, Portal 2, and Aperture Desk Job, has said that side-projects like desk job are non canon, and that only the mainline games are canon when he was specifically asked if desk job was canon. So at best it's a different universe.

[@Katie-xd1nt]

@@ApertureLabs nah its canon.

[@Shipwright1918]

Should be mentioned that the $60 test fee was in the form of vouchers, and it's implied that Aperture wasn't in the habit of paying them when redeemed. The cake isn't the only thing that was a lie.

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

"How did he feel about lemons?" Oh, we're asking the deep philosophical questions. Cool.

[@giftedfox4748]

Nice video, well done on all the information that most people wouldn't have known. However, just a personal thought of just me, I would have enjoyed it better if you did played some of the audio of Cave Johnson recordings and/or statements when you did mention them. Reason for that is because it has been awhile since I played those games and I felt like your statements about Cave recordings would have hit harder by hearing him arguing about Lemons.

[@definitlyblack7600]

“Brought all the greatest minds together to make shower curtains” I refuse to believe that you didnt burst out laughing.

[@Skyrionn]

I may have laughed a little.

[@identocidal]

cave johnson has got to be my favorite portal character.

[@Skyrionn]

He's a great character.

[@identocidal]

@@Skyrionn he really is!

[@husseinabd-alraheem8618]

Best half life and portal lore channel

[@Skyrionn]

That's too kind. I appreciate the kind words

[@husseinabd-alraheem8618]

@@Skyrionn you deserve more

[@arthurwiebusch9292]

Love your content bro, it really helps me to relax, always watch before bed with my dog :) keep it up, I always watch your videos about half life!

[@Skyrionn]

I've heard that quite a bit. I have video essays planned for the future so I hope they'll suit you even better! Anything to please a doggo!

[@Error404----]

Cave Johnson is my favourite thing in Portal 2, and The Fall is my overall favourite part of Portal 2, up until you find PotaDOS, because it has that isolated feeling I enjoyed so much in the first game.

[@royrequireswifi488]

When a video of 1 person contains spoilers for 5 whole games

[@Skyrionn]

I know right. A great man. Great writing.

[@vladyvhv9579]

There's a simple but very enjoyable Fallout New Vegas mod that gives us a box with an occasionally regenerating inventory. It's contents: Incendiary lemon grenades, lemons, grenades and the plans for constructing said incendiary lemon grenades from the lemons and grenades! It does require the DLC that adds incendiary grenades, but playing FNV without the DLCs is a lot like playing Skyrim without its DLCs: heresy. There are some other mods that try to include stuff like portal guns and whatnot, but they can sometimes mess with the physics engine and crash the game. The combustible lemons mod is just adding a variation of an existing game asset with a fun custom mesh. Much less likely to crash the game. And super fun to use against the Legion.

[@Jasmine__135]

despite its troubled existance, Aperture did succeed in one thing: they beat Black Mesa to teleportation technology that didn't explode (except for the 2 miniature WWII german stick grenades to restart the portal gun)

[@zigfaust]

Except they probably didnt. There are teleportation orbs in Black Mesa that are fully functional and plentiful to the point they must have perfected them over the years. Yes, most TPS in HL1 are from the Cascade, but many can be seen in controlled enviorments. Aperture 100% beat Mesa to PORTABLE portal tech doe.

[@Jasmine__135]

@@zigfaust Aperture made the first portal devices in like the 60's, half life 1 takes place in an unknown year in the 21st century

[@zigfaust]

@@Jasmine__135 Of course, I know that. Black Mesa was around longer and their discovery of "portal orbs" led to decades of research leading up to the resonance cascade. Scientist like Kleiner are the same age Cave would have been if he didnt let his work go to his head.

[@AngryTrafficCone]

chain: when life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back

[@adelite]

GET MAD!

[@speedskeleton250]

'I don't want your damn lemons, what am i supposed to do with these?'

[@AngryTrafficCone]

I DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER!

[@InventorZahran]

Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson LEMONS!

[@galwhoroams]

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!

[@plushworldfriends9521]

In another universe cave saves humanity!

[@Skyrionn]

I guess he had to in one...

[@hellxsco]

This feels like an actual documentaries

[@ncopictures7182]

Imagine an alternate universe where Cave becomes administrator of Earth instead of Dr Breen.

[@Skyrionn]

I'd like to play that game.

[@DogeTheBigTanDog]

the multiverses is insane the fact that there could be cave that is the test subject or cave is in a computer actually enjoying himself or cave becomes pure light which happened on his multiverese

[@Skyrionn]

I know right

[@Crazyguy_123MC]

Aperture was doing unethical tests and Black Mesa was stealing them and doing far more dangerous tests. Sure Aperture's tests could kill people but Black Mesa was doing tests that could result in millions of deaths or even the end of the world. Both companies were willingly putting humanity at risk the difference is one knew what was too far and the other didn't. Blaperture Cave was probably the best Cave.

[@RTS-APERTURE]

This video explored Aperture More than the others.❤️

[@elpacon7187]

Little did Cave knew that the Lunar Gel would the key to defeat Wheatley at the end of Portal 2