The Man; The Myth; The Legend: Allan Wilson of the Shangani Patrol

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@detroitgoth
@detroitgoth 4 ай бұрын
My 2x Great Grand Uncle! Thank you for putting this together. It wasn't until about a year ago my part of the family rediscovered this bit of history while doing genealogy research. My father had heard about a family legend, but didn't know any details nor a name to go along with it. About a month after my fathers passing, I stumbled upon the obituary of Allan's brother's wife, which mentions Allan in passing. That opened our family legend wide open, and finally we had a name and story to go with the myth.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic - what a family history!
@WinstonWenthworth
@WinstonWenthworth Ай бұрын
I have a few videos on my channel called “the wagon wheels north” which features allan Wilson if your interested
@old-worldghost3451
@old-worldghost3451 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video. I first learned of Major Wilson from the John Edmond song "Shangani Patrol", and then of the early years of Rhodesian History from the KZbin channel @FiveRomeoRomeo . I'm glad that Wilson is still remembered as a brave man. Cheers from Oklahoma.
@andygeorgeparkinson2515
@andygeorgeparkinson2515 6 ай бұрын
Another great story superbly told , thank you once again
@FranciscoPreira
@FranciscoPreira 9 ай бұрын
Another great story rescued from oblivion, thanks for sharing Chris.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 9 ай бұрын
Thanks - I have a few biographical films like this one coming out over the next few months thanks to my mate Cam Simpson who is helping with the research.
@richardprescott6322
@richardprescott6322 10 ай бұрын
I read the book - The White men sang - Alexander Fullerton years ago. Loved it probably confused it with events from Zulu war though. Found a copy in a charity shop couple years a go. Great read - and I have a bit more understanding of what it was about. Don't think book is available now. I still read Henty books.
@richardprescott6322
@richardprescott6322 10 ай бұрын
If you cannot find a copy matie, not read it - I will send you mine - its a paperback - cost me a £1. I have south African and Rhodesian/Zimbabwe friends
@ShawnGarratt-by6bf
@ShawnGarratt-by6bf 9 ай бұрын
Really injoyed this again my friend well done from Tipton in the black country in England
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, Shawn.
@jimkeats891
@jimkeats891 10 ай бұрын
I am not just a fan of history....I'm a gamer. Wilson's glorious mustache would be worth an extra 10 "hit points"! Great video!
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
They certtainly had great facial hair in those days!
@abraxaseyes87
@abraxaseyes87 9 ай бұрын
More like British+100
@SmokinLoon5150
@SmokinLoon5150 10 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT work. Thanks for sharing. Great information and good use of sources. I sincerely appreciate your contributions. :)
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot and thanks to my mate Cam who researched Wilson so well.
@jerrymacklow1452
@jerrymacklow1452 10 ай бұрын
I remember George Henty. His book St George for England was a favourite teenage read.
@ak9989
@ak9989 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I read Frederick Burnhams book and story and how he survived this massacre. And I do like the British South Africa Company medals, have 5 for this war.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Wow that is a great collection. Burnham is a legend - hoping to do a video on him eventually.
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 10 ай бұрын
They are very interesting and you never know the story behind the medal.
@drtroosevelt
@drtroosevelt 10 ай бұрын
Please do. Survived a Sioux massacre as a kid and inspired Baden-Powell.
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 10 ай бұрын
Well presented Chris
@mercysimpson6651
@mercysimpson6651 10 ай бұрын
A very interesting story....thanks for sharing
@neilcampbell9383
@neilcampbell9383 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always. Got a G A Henry as a prize in the Boys Brigade. I can’t remember the title but it was set in the French Revolution I think? Might have been The Reign of Terror? Anyway lots of derring do and boys own adventure 🙂👍
@reynardthefox
@reynardthefox 10 ай бұрын
Great story of a brave man
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 6 ай бұрын
I love this channel as it is dedicated to a part of history I am very interested in. It has saved me from having to read through scores of books and although nothing replaces reading, this channel delivers the information very well. It's amazing how little is generally known about this period of British & world history. I guess that the subject of the Empire, especially Africa & India can be considered controversial these days, but history is just that. These events shaped our world today. Thanks
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. Yes, it isn't a popular subject which is why I think its so important to keep the stories alive.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 6 ай бұрын
@@redcoathistory Pleasure. It is great that I can learn about a subject I am interested in finally.
@mercysimpson6651
@mercysimpson6651 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful video Chris and Cam
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot - hope we meet one day!
@mercysimpson6651
@mercysimpson6651 10 ай бұрын
Me too
@matthewmckever2312
@matthewmckever2312 9 ай бұрын
I read alot of Wilbur Smith in my early teens and as a London lad my eyes opened to the plains and kops of the Courtney's and Ballentyn families. He wrote about Lonbengula, Fiction but ripping yarns wot wot.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 10 ай бұрын
Great story, and it looks like a lot of the clips are from a movie, what is the name of it please? I'm an old movie buff but I do not know this film. Plus I'm a yank so forgive me for not knowing.
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 10 ай бұрын
Hi James, it's on KZbin and called Shangani Patrol a 1970 film. Wilson would have had a Scottish accent though.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 10 ай бұрын
@@cameronsimpson-ld8nk thank you sir, very much. I shall indulge myself .
@stevethomas5849
@stevethomas5849 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very interesting historical subject.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching - are there other historical characters you think I should make a film about?
@keithagn
@keithagn 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting and dramatic story. Thank-you ,Chris for bringing it to everyone, and keeping it alive. On a happier note I think Santa will be bringing me a couple of Redcoat History tee shirts, and a coffee mug this Christmas! Best Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Hi there - thanks for watching and letting me know - that sounds like a fantastic Christmas present!
@Jubilo1
@Jubilo1 10 ай бұрын
Henty books had superb cover illustrations.
@ak9989
@ak9989 10 ай бұрын
I have a South Africa medal to a trooper that fought at Morosi Mt. Tpr. F. Stuckman Cape Mtd Yeomanary. The U is dented a little it might be O stockman.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
I bet Cam Simpson knows him. He has a book coming out about the mountain.
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 10 ай бұрын
Stuckman served with Colonel Brabant's 1st CMY. Elements of 1CMY were the last to leave the Moorosi's Mountain.
@JohnnyRep-u4e
@JohnnyRep-u4e Ай бұрын
Good presentation. The movie "Shangani Patrol" is available on this platform.
@howelltaylor6774
@howelltaylor6774 5 ай бұрын
I had never heard of G A Henty, Thanks for the recommendation!
@DidierDidier-kc4nm
@DidierDidier-kc4nm 9 ай бұрын
great story .Thank you
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@BillsWargameWorld
@BillsWargameWorld 10 ай бұрын
Very nice
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Bill
@BillsWargameWorld
@BillsWargameWorld 10 ай бұрын
You bet we are both doing the same thing promote history
@BillChristison
@BillChristison 4 ай бұрын
Have a Black Zimbabwean employee in South Africa who attended Allan Wilson Tech and has no clue as to who the school was named after. Why? who knows.
@simbi8797
@simbi8797 6 күн бұрын
"For they were men. And their fathers were men before them."
@stephenhunt2806
@stephenhunt2806 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great ten minute biopic on Wilson. I'm 66 and to my shame I've never heard of Henty, so I must check him out. Where are the cigarette cards from?
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 6 ай бұрын
Hi. here is a link to old cigarette cards - www.flickr.com/photos/44841559@N03/albums/72157622920406414/
@stephenhunt2806
@stephenhunt2806 6 ай бұрын
@redcoathistory Cheers thanks!
@TheScoopGorrilla
@TheScoopGorrilla 10 ай бұрын
I still read GA Henty, you are not alone 😂
@normalplayer7377
@normalplayer7377 7 ай бұрын
0:14 Modern Day Rhodesia or 'Occupied Rhodesia'. Not Zimbabaweeea
@jorgfilter2241
@jorgfilter2241 4 ай бұрын
What was a 3rd Class Private in rank? As far as I know a Pvt was a Pvt. Either as Rifleman (in more modern Infantry or Commando in RSA prior to 1994) or a "Scout" in the Intelligence Corps etc.
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 3 ай бұрын
In the various police forces and Cape Mounted Rifles, they had 3rd Class, 2nd Class and First class Privates. Also for Sergeant as well. In the CMR there was a 4th class Private for native privates.
@BillsWargameWorld
@BillsWargameWorld 10 ай бұрын
I will try to play this in January in miniature war game for my channel and cross tie in to your channel
@Paulftate
@Paulftate 10 ай бұрын
"AU" let's go
@WinstonWenthworth
@WinstonWenthworth 9 ай бұрын
So was Allan Wilson not in the 1st Boer war ? I had always been taught he was
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 9 ай бұрын
Yep -. Many books claim he was also in the Zulu War but he wasn't. Cam did the research for this and has looked at the primary evidence.
@WinstonWenthworth
@WinstonWenthworth 9 ай бұрын
@@redcoathistory I’m actually shocked ! But thanks for the information!
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk
@cameronsimpson-ld8nk 9 ай бұрын
No, he was tied up in the Basuto Gun War at the same time. I guess historians have read the dates 1880-81 and assumed it was the First Boer War, much the same as 1879 is always interpreted as the Zulu War, when he was in the CMR at the time. The fun part of researching these guys is getting the facts right that sometimes can be disappointing when it goes against popular belief.
@WinstonWenthworth
@WinstonWenthworth 9 ай бұрын
@@cameronsimpson-ld8nk that’s very true! I’ve just finished reading “a time to die” that dispelled a few myths for me
@rodgerhargoon3402
@rodgerhargoon3402 9 ай бұрын
Yet sadly Scotland will be ruled by muslims
@TrevorMoses312
@TrevorMoses312 6 ай бұрын
A handful of militia men? Really? Those were volunteers for the British South Africa Company which later became known as the British South African Police.
@old-worldghost3451
@old-worldghost3451 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Fort Victoria Rangers, Salisbury Horse, Betuananalnd Border Police (I hope I spelled that right) and some Native Axillaries too. Little more than a thousand BSA Company Troops against the 10 Thousand strong Matabele Army, over a thousand of which had modern rifles of their own. Brave men the lot of 'em, a hard fought victory.
@simbi8797
@simbi8797 6 күн бұрын
The British South Africa Company Police of the Pioneer Column became the Mashonaland Mounted Police and, after the Matabele war of 1893 were joined by the Matabeleland Mounted Police and - later- a portion of the Bechuanaland Border Police to form the British South Africa Police only during the later Boer War ( second Boer War or Tweede Vryheid Oorlog). Wilson and his men were NOT regular soldiers, or policemen. They were civilians and part time soldiers. So Militia is not an incorrect term.
@CaptainQuark9
@CaptainQuark9 10 ай бұрын
I went to Allan Wilson High School in Salisbury. I was only there for a year. NOT an enjoyable experience.
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that.
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 9 ай бұрын
G.A. Henty was my introduction to "serious" reading on India. Good writer, crappy officer.
@Worldwidewhat-wb
@Worldwidewhat-wb 8 ай бұрын
The nostalgia of the oppressors
@MikeHarland-m2g
@MikeHarland-m2g 9 ай бұрын
More right wing myth building. Why not have post showing the true cost of colonialism?
@redcoathistory
@redcoathistory 9 ай бұрын
Hi mate. Welcome to the channel. Here at Redcoat History we honour the men who died fighting for their country - both British and their opponents. If you are looking to indulge in left/right arguments then this isn't the place for it. If you are keen to learn about quirky and interesting stories from Britian's military past then please hang around.
@darhug1968a
@darhug1968a 9 ай бұрын
You could do well to read a book occasionally. The Matabele were certainly colonists who regularly robbed neighbouring tribes to feed and pay for their standing army. I don't see them apologising for their colonisation so don't expect me to.
@darwindarwin141
@darwindarwin141 8 ай бұрын
Oh dear , you don’t read widely do you , bless
@g.t.richardson6311
@g.t.richardson6311 8 ай бұрын
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